De’Aaron Fox Trades and Jimmy Butler's Trade Value with Chris Mannix | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

Russillo starts the show by breaking down the 76ers' start to the season, and keys in on Paul George (0:50). Then, he’s joined by Chris Mannix to learn more about De’Aaron Fox’s trade market, discuss Jimmy Butler’s value, explore the possibility of Cam Johnson to OKC, and list their NBA title contenders (12:40). Finally, Life Advice with Kyle (1:12:18)! Do I tell my friends my wife is getting fake breasts?
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[@Oliverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr]

Why do you have 4 ovens? and have they always been there?

[@cejotaW]

I think it’s 2 ovens and 2 microwaves. It’s a rich people thing

[@kwsturdivant]

Probably a microwave and a convection oven, then a double oven for hosting. Kitchens and master bathrooms get pretty fancy after a certain threshold

[@UnoriginalUsername25]

At least one of those is definitely a rich person's microwave.

[@yoavcohen2218]

​@@cejotaWJewish thing as well. But I don't think Ryen is Jewish.

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

The two most visible ones are the conventional ovens. All of it is overkill for a bachelor but hey, he’s living good

[@M-Cherian]

Enjoy hearing Ryen talk about things he would share with his kids (that he likely won't have).

[@kam_12_]

as a 19 year old whos been watching/listening to ryen for years hes probably the closest to a father figure i have with all the sports and general life knowledge ive got from him😂

[@M-Cherian]

@@kam_12_ I am glad you found a worthy father figure. His advice is often quite thoughtful and pragmatic.

[@j.p.gonzalez9218]

@@M-Cherian😂😂

[@juju-vl7oj]

⁠@@kam_12_you should write him an email and try to gauge his interest in adopting you lol

[@aron.gortman]

He'd be a good dad though.

[@adamlee3892]

Love the On Air kudos to Wargon…..that’s big for us fans to hear that Ryen appreciates him and having his approval is huge

[@keatonforrest93]

Ah yes Ryen, tell me about the real world.

[@user-bmw528]

Sports journalists live in their own real world. Watch sports and talk into a microphone = the real world

[@joeshmoe8134]

As a Grizz fan, there’s at least 10 teams in the league outside of Memphis that I LOVE watching. Online there’s negativity around the game and ratings, but fuck all tat noise. There’s studs everywhere. Detroit, Houston, OKC, Portland, Knicks, Denver, Dallas, Charlotte, Boston, and Cleveland are must watch. NBA has never been better.

[@Joemama72096]

I generally agree. However, I've watched a decent amount of boston games and I find their style of basketball very hard to watch. Objectively they're very good but it's just not a fun brand of basketball. - nuggets fan

[@chadams7753]

TV ratings are a boomer metric. Fat old people sitting for 6 hours. NBA impressions online are undefeated.

[@T2Runner]

​@@Joemama72096You mean 150 threes shot a game? Yeah, it sucks.

[@bradenmize6944]

I know Mannix did not just mention Pritchard on the same level as White and Holiday 😂😂😂

[@alexdixon1232]

Chris Mannix great at sounding like he knows what hes talking about. Clearly watches very little basketball. Mentions the kings were the 3 seed last year which was two years ago. He knows people in important positions but he just doesnt grind the tape.

[@charlesfranczyk3458]

Yeah I dont know if he said anything that made me think anything i havent. And I'm not a great basketball mind

[@johndailey2323]

Mannix was probably my least favorite guest in awhile

[@Yourscaredlol12]

Sort of like Russillo …. Dude roasts Embiid for his weight and being out of shape/not playing then gives Luka a free pass lmfao. Clown takes just based on personal bias

[@johndailey2323]

@@Yourscaredlol12 weird you've never heard russillo rip Luka for his weight. I've heard him do it on multiple podcasts.

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

31:45 while Beal’s stance makes great sense given the position he currently has…I do wonder if he’s just trolling the Suns FO with an impossible demand-on what planet can any of the true contenders possibly afford him, unless he’s willing to take a colossal pay cut? Unless he considers any of the teams on the next tier down (any of the “one-two moves away” teams) as ‘contenders’…

[@mikekelly4542]

Mannix stinks, let’s get more Celtics homers pretending not to be on the Ringer.

[@user-bmw528]

It’s a Boston media circlejerk. Grow up Boston fans. Get into media. Bring other Boston fans on your show

[@jackdroke5221]

Best podcast I've heard from you, i've been watching since 2019. You are turning into the old man version of yourself and its awesome

[@jhank0cean]

coming full circle on the rich/poor town discussion absolutely leveled me

[@Jacob23615]

Mannix is a hack. Painful listen. Other than that love the pod

[@turbo2763]

That Denver series last year from MN was the single best moment in the last 20 YEARS of Minnesota basketball. We unarguably do not make that without Rudy. The Rudy acquisition was the best thing to happen to the wolves in years, even if it forced the KAT decision. People who haven't been watching this hellscape of basketball for decades will never understand that.

[@rsekaionline]

basketball Ryan is in his bag! Great content.

[@amc1140]

Dude has more ovens than family😂

[@jasonandrews3363]

top one is coffee maker lol

[@arthurdavis9341]

that's why he can afford the fancy quad oven setup.

[@tylerblalack6684]

​@@arthurdavis9341so true

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

I can't stand Mannix but I watch anyway he's my new Skip Bayless since the og has gone mia 💀

[@juju-vl7oj]

I used to not like Mannix but mostly if I remember correctly only because he was saying KD was better than Lebron in 2017 and I was like you know it’s 10x easier to look better when you’re next to Steph and he’s the one the Cavs defense is actually devoting their game-plan to stopping first. Btw Skip isn’t mia , he’s still doing his solo show and even did an episode with his wife. I think those allegations are mostly lies but idk

[@davidbasset7557]

This is way too boring to not have timestamps Feels like I’m sitting through a zoom call stand-up meeting at work

[@havok6280]

I don't compare NBA players to my work place. I compare them to other NBA players. MJ was grossly underpaid for most of his career. He still showed up for work. One of the knocks on Pippen is he didn't show up for work.

[@beaker8111]

9:30 Nah, it works. I AM awesome like Jimmy Butler is awesome at what I do. I'm still a professional. I don't abandon my teams, refuse to work, and make everyone around me hate working with me. I have professional colleagues who do, and they bounce around and have a worse career and make less money. Just like Jimmy will. What he's doing is hurting him as much as it is hurting the Heat. Grow up, Jimmy.

[@danreynolds2628]

Jimmy isn’t unprofessional. He’s just a lot smarter than Riley

[@arthurdavis9341]

@@danreynolds2628 you think extending Butler until he's 40 at $50-60 million per year to NOT win a championship looks smart? I do not. At this point, getting out from under that contract and/or player option next year would make Riley look like a freakin' physicist. The only thing that separates this contract from the league's worst is that it MIGHT be over after this season.

[@danreynolds2628]

@ I agree Miami should get out from under that option. Pat has made it clear by not offering an extension that he doesn’t want Jimmy there. But Pat wants to show he has the bigger dick and Jimmy just keeps cutting it shorter and shorter. Trade the man for what you can get before you end up with a $52 million benchwarmer next season

[@danreynolds2628]

@@beaker8111 Professionalism was once defined for me as “doing the best job you know how even when you’d really rather not”. But professionalism is a two-way street. Once Pat started playing Bigus Dickus (not offering an extension; we’re not trading Jimmy; we can’t get a satisfactory offer for Jimmy) all bets are off and Pat has been outfoxed by Jimmy at every turn

[@tonydemasso3691]

why didn't Ryen laugh out loud when this guy brought up the lakers, dude wanted to laugh so bad at the cliche of a national media guy bringing up the lakers

[@o1freed]

Rich town poor town callback got me

[@rjonesy3480]

I thought that ESPN were the only guys obligated to talk about the Lakers

[@FuturePatriotsGM]

My future kid is HYPED for the book ryen!!! Better not let him down

[@brettdavis5873]

Fire whoever wrote that opening monologue

[@danmcdermott12]

Definitely thinking Red Hook Brooklyn for sure

[@carltonrudolph]

Glad you mention pg Jesus christ,back to back max contracts on Tobias and him is wild

[@joshawarapin]

Send Butler and Fox to the Spurs. Ship out KJ, Vassell, Barnes and Picks... let's roll! Haha

[@PGO_Gaming]

So the Knicks smoke Memphis at home with Ja, and then beat the Nuggets at home, and they are still under Cleveland and Boston. Yeah, that makes total sense.

[@Atlascommando556]

Yeah Brunson stunk in the playoffs last year …. 32.4 ppg 😂

[@Prandei]

That was too stupid Theres a good argument thaz he was the best player in the playoffs until he broke his hand. Ant was on track until this point, no one else imo

[@bagbroch9339]

Thank god someone’s willing to call out rudy “worst contract of all time” gobert

[@user-qb4ex8mh5h]

I don't see why anyone had expectations for the 76ers. The injury history was there for everyone to see. The year they are having is not at all shocking knowing they had 2 of the most injured "stars" in the league.

[@EnthusiasticLock-hn4qp]

Over the jimmy butler drama….give him the Jordan Poole move.

[@fentanyljones6956]

George Karl and the front office blew up Melo in Denver. We had a squad and they didn’t bring the important pieces back. He was right to leave.

[@user-bmw528]

GK is a POS. Not one player has a nice thing to say about him

[@MrOctober44]

It's how he went about it. He screwed Denver and himself by forcing to be traded to the Knicks. Karma is a bi*** and he got to be on mediocre teams for about a decade. 🙂

[@TakeoneDoe]

is Ceruti Ryen's Draymond to his Steph?

[@beaks31]

Agreed it cant he compared to regular jobs. Which is why i dont want to hear about how unfair it is that front offices get to trade players and how "unfair" that is. It comes with the territory its what you get paid for.

[@fentanyljones6956]

Houston has a vision. They aren’t gonna make a premature trade move, they wanna taste the blood of the post season and see where they stand.

[@joeshmoe8134]

Houston has a great thing going. Developing their current roster is paramount.

[@MrOctober44]

​@@joeshmoe8134they can't keep all of these young guys. Guys also want to put numbers. No one wants to be a fourth or fifth option.

[@jef_freely]

New Orleans should get at Fox stat .. the trade deadline will be wild .. imagine a few big multi team moves go down

[@MrOctober44]

Ingram would make a lot of sense. Kings would be getting back scoring to make up for the loss of Fox. I don't see the pelicans wanting Fox when they have Murray and CJ

[@Yourscaredlol12]

Ryan must be gaslighting us about Embiid. I just heard him on with bill say that it doesn’t matter how much Luka weighs or how many games he misses you have to give him $360m+ lmffaooooo. Which one is it Ryan.

[@robertvillarreal3038]

hearing that Fox doesn't have a list. it's just the Spurs.

[@karimw.9954]

Ousmane Dieng + draft compensation for Coby White

[@fentanyljones6956]

Don’t read so much into it. They’re bringing Christian off the bench to stagger big point of attack defender guards. JB is small, but he feast on quick ground guards.. they play him 40 minutes again. My guess is they’re trying to put fresh effective defensive legs on Jalen Brunson at all times

[@Blingbling57-s8b]

they nerfed Tanking

[@GD-7-7-7]

If silvers talking about viewership and interaction surely he needs to address tanking. Its a joke, teams should be at least trying to compete. Respect to teams like Portland, Toronto that at least seem to be trying to win games. Make the lottery even odds for the top 15?

[@SchulzEricT]

He said he was playing great in the G-league. I wouldn't have said "great". He's playing in the G-league. True.

[@jaredgoldstern5039]

Insane how much of what Mannix said was so off. Fox to Spurs and Lavine moved

[@bestboy1979]

Am I the only one who thought of Taz when they mentioned Red Hook?

[@rodaxel7165]

How about Orlando for Fox?

[@Prandei]

They lack a 3point threat at pg The fit isnt worth the price imo

[@MrOctober44]

​@@PrandeiFox really improved his 3 point shooting last year. It's down this year because he has issues with a couple of his fingers.

[@AlexBrownBeezy]

I feel kyle and know what he means on the vineyard vines topic

[@Blingbling57-s8b]

NFL still doesnt tank is wild

[@fabianschaeuble5717]

It's easier in a 82 games season than in 17 games. And in the playoffs it's always just one game which makes an upset more likely than in a 7 game series.

[@MrOctober44]

NBA teams have a lot less players per team. Two players can completely transform a team.

[@t4d0W]

Too many variances in an shorter NFL schedule. Count in injury luck, how fast the offense/defense catches on the first month and hoping they don't regress until late in the season. You get more NFL teams that catch the luck and a good/great record despite being fraudulent on film.

[@wileyschmitt]

Good to see that Ryen got a pet parrot, but why did he name him Mannix?

[@Blingbling57-s8b]

45 mill for danny granger..gone but not forgotten

[@donaldw12318]

Mannix is a distillation of the kind of national media coverage that has let espns grip on analysis of sports slip (yes I know that’s not his employer). He quotes a bunch of west teams that would be trouble for the wolves cause of perimeter play on a team with naw, Jaden, ant, dd and Clark. I’m sorry but that’s idiotic. I’d give ryen a pass cause sometimes you invite on bozos but then he half rehashes the Rudy deal with no context while saying the might need a reset. There’s so much stupidity in that it’s not worth rebutting. Genuinely makes me discount all your takes and makes me leave the pod until the next time you do something fun with bill that leads me into this.

[@nicolasstaudt5714]

Bumped the Lakers up a tier? Nooooooope!

[@WheresWaldo05]

Lol. "All time haul" Lol. Fox is not worth more than Towns' trade value. 🤣🤣🤣

[@nysguy07]

Red Storm has to be in the running for worst college nickname going. Clearly women weren’t consulted.

[@Blingbling57-s8b]

Get a lot more with honey than you do with vinegar

[@PGO_Gaming]

The Celtics are probably not winning the NBA championship this year. They got away with their style last year because the Knicks took out Philadelphia, and they lost all of their players against the Pacers. The Celtics jack up so many threes without a real system, so they won't get past Cleveland or the Knicks. Top 5 championship contenders in no particular order: (barring injury) Oklahoma City Thunder, New York Knicks, Cleveland Cavaliers, Memphis Grizzlies, and the Boston Celtics.

[@t4d0W]

I mean the Celtics jacking up 3s and having variance go their way has been part of their plan in recent playoff years. Plus lineup wise they are sound defensively so teams can't match up hunt them. Cavs are a wonderful regular season team with absolute postseason flaws when they have to play the same team for 5+ games because their hobbit ass back court ain't it.

[@danreynolds2628]

Not sure why people keep saying Jimmy has no leverage. He is playing Pat like a fiddle. Won’t trade me because you can’t get a competitive offer? Let me help you out and lower my value until you can. Riley is the oldest of old school and needs to go.

[@MrOctober44]

Or he just lets him walk. No one is giving Butler a huge contract.

[@PGO_Gaming]

Butler has no leverage. On the court, he gives them nothing. Off the court, he gives them nothing. Anything they get for him is a bonus based off the fact that he gives them nothing. Because he makes himself "untradeable", the best teams steer clear of him. And he has teams he "won't" go to. If he stays, he takes the $50 million and sits. That will be his legacy. Like I said, no leverage.

[@danreynolds2628]

@ I guess I misunderstand leverage, which I thought meant “exercising control over the outcome of a situation”. While Pat has final control on accepting a trade offer and with whom, Jimmy has already played Pat by lowering his trade value to widen the market and depriving the Heat of his potential skills this season (e.g., recent 35 point game?). As to other teams not wanting him, 2/3rds of the teams in the league are irrelevant. I can foresee owner/front offices taking a risk on Jimmy for this year and next. Particularly since such a risk could be traded away this summer if Jimmy’s play and fit doesn’t warrant an extension. We’ve already established Jimmy’s falling market value, potentially even to the point of being worth a rental in exchange for a non-rotation player. That’s nit the trade Pat wants but he also doesn’t want that option exercised.

[@danreynolds2628]

@@MrOctober44 He can’t just let Jimmy walk. Jimmy has a $52 million player option for next year. Pat could swallow the option and suspend/sit Jimmy for the season, in which case he’s richer and a free agent the following summer

[@PGO_Gaming]

@ That following summer he would be going on 37 years old, and not having played in almost a year and a half. He has no leverage. Miami controls the situation. If they can't find him a home, he sits at home. If he activates the option, he sits at home. Who in the heck would acquire a player that hasn't played for the better part of two years?

[@danarm88]

Over thinking the kids book, we don't care, stick to the reg pod

[@Blingbling57-s8b]

its static

[@blankontheriver-gj8kq]

you're right I'm not awesome like Jimmy, but he turns into a malcontent everywhere he goes, where I work, that's called being an asshole.

[@albertocasamayor4897]

this guy doesn t believe Doncic,kai,Pj,klay,gafford etc is enough to be one of the best...I mean...still the dallas disrespect is astonishing

[@je5406]

Stars gotta play to be taken seriously.

[@Nothinkingnow]

Mannix is a hack - wrong takes after wrong takes. “Spurs won’t go for Fox” 🤡

[@mattturner5750]

He's paid to be awesome though. No attaboys for doing what you're supposed to do

[@GetShorty29]

Why is this guy WARGONE on life advice again, and what does he contribute exactly…? It’s baffling to me why this guy has a microphone, as if his takes are even remotely interesting,… Can somebody please tell me what I’m missing? 🙆‍♂️

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

The "pro athlete " is a diva. Thats this difference.

[@ryankay0]

don’t ever bring chris mannix on here again thanks

[@benwalcher8749]

Big L on this guest....Mannix is not at all compelling.

[@vicv_TD]

Who is this guy and why doesnt he know ball? Just bring up all the clichés and say nothing new

[@Anthony-tz2wb]

Mannix is a clown for that horrible Celtics take, can you be anymore of a homer

[@dannysprucebank2451]

Great show until……

[@aron.gortman]

Fox is a bum.

[@jdeck1064]

This didn't age well...

[@omlette9214]

kinda bothers me when people have nice kitchens and things like 4 ovens and never use them. ngl