Ryobi 3/8" Cordless Ratchet Vs. Milwaukee Torque/RPM Tests

[@jeffostroff]

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[@DS2951]

Why did you bother doing it with the old models

[@edisonpendelton1417]

*Good **MyBest.Tools** value compaired to other brands*

[@jeffostroff]

I love them both

[@mericaactual3030]

Everyone complaining about the Ryobi battery needs to understand they use that same battery on all of their tools. They’re not going to design a different battery for the ratchet. With that said, arguing Milwaukee Vs. Ryobi is about as ridiculous as arguing Ford Vs. Chevy. They’re both fine.

[@jeffostroff]

Well said Uncle Tin!

[@LS-nf5xn]

Well said!

[@44warden]

Uh Makita uses a smaller battery for their 3/8 ratchet. That Ryobi 3/8 ratchet design with their regular battery is just plain lazy and lacking innovation! That thing is the best laugh I've had all day.

[@TheWrenchGuy]

Everyone has gotta start somewhere with tools, and Ryobi is definitely great for starter budget tools! Thanks for the review!

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for watching!

[@JDelta87]

I just recently came across your videos as I'm starting out on building out my collection for my home DIY projects. Thanks to your content, I was able to snag the Ryobi with the battery and charger bundle for $89 at HD just before Christmas. Thank you!

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome! Thank you for the feedback Jay

[@michael931]

The Ryobi needs a bigger battery. Maybe like a car battery on the bottom of it. Would only be a little bigger than the one on there.

[@jeffostroff]

That would be a hoot to see that!

[@JohnWhite-Iowa-City]

Absolutely would be super handy to have a Interstate Megatron on the bottom,, two hands required for safety of course.

[@mfetzer1]

Lol.

[@xavier1964]

12v vs 18v

[@Turbogto_guy]

I’m A die hard ryobi fan, owner, user. I have that Milwaukee ratchet. I would have preferred if ryobi made a smaller battery for smaller tools, just like Milwaukee has. They mace a m12 and m18 line of tools. Ryobi could have made a small battery like the Milwaukee but still fit in the 18v charger.

[@JAMESJJEFFERS]

As a mechanic it really comes down to the money and platforms you want to invest in. I wouldn't use any cordless ratchet to torque anything. They are good for fasteners bolts, quick assembly and disassembly of interior/exterior bolts. These are used more for the speed in break downs than it ever is for bolt torquing. I use Ryobi mainly because I have for years but also because I have yard equipment and other tools on the platform. Good package pricing as well. Even the most basic tool can be a super tool in the right hands...

[@jeffostroff]

I found them both to be good useful ratchets

[@deifor]

with most of these tools, I think it all comes down to the battery at the end of the day. The huge battery on the Ryobi kind of defeats the purpose of the ratchet.

[@jeffostroff]

The cool thing like I showed in the video, is that Ryobi allows you to spin the head into 4 different positions, so the socket is now facing out the short side of the battery, now the clearance is exactly like the Milwaukee

[@shanestewart1498]

@@jeffostroff clearance is not the same as the Ryobi. You still have 3 Inches hanging off the end of the tool no matter which way you clock the battery. In a tight spot, the Ryobi would be worthless.

[@knighthawk86855]

@@shanestewart1498 I have a lot of the m12 and m18 Milwaukee tools and wouldn't trade them for anything, the size of the tool and battery is what I need, that huge battery just won't fit in the areas I work.

[@mikesweet5848]

@@jeffostroff HAHA yeah that aint gonna work all the time chief. I started laughing when I saw the cryobi. Any pro knows that's worthless junk.

[@charredskeleton]

I have a C3 craftsman power ratchet(basically grey Ryobi). It's useless because of its massive battery. If the ratchet fits in so does an impact wrench.

[@oldcdawg1]

I have had the Milwaukee M12 for 4+ years and I love it. I don't think That I could get by using the Ryobi just because of the size of the battery, to many tight spaces that it won't go into. I will give up the power that it looses to the 18 volt Ryobi just to keep it small.

[@jeffostroff]

Larry even if you spin the head around on the Ryobi? It makes it have the same clearance as the Milwaukee, at least from the front.

[@grahamwho2]

jeffostroff The ryobi spin feature only gives it clearance from that one side, your not accounting for the difference in length or just that now you have the huge battery sticking out the other side, for the task you did sure if wouldn’t matter much, but I’ve had to put my Milwaukee ratchet in tight spaces where it just fit, especially in automotive, places where there’s no way the ryobi would begin to fit. Example taking the bolts out of a fan on the front of the engine, bolts out of the top of a transmission, or in going deep in the engine bay where I have to slide it in and flip it all around just to get to the bolt, many times where an extra inch in length and definitely 3+ inches at the base would not cut it. For real automotive work, nothing beats the Milwaukee.

[@frestkd]

Well the funny thing about both tools are manufactured by TTi along with Hart, and Ridgid Orange power tools.

[@jeffostroff]

Yep, one big brand soup

[@apmirkin]

Thank you for letting me know. Im looking at the Sealey brand as well

[@cruzanity7478]

I was wondering why Rigid hasn’t released one yet. They’re tool warranty is also 3 years & has a lifetime service agreement when registered to the Rigid power tools account.

[@toolskii]

Yes but Ridgid is owned by Emerson

[@22Platypus]

Hilarious

[@nonamegiven5744]

Backyard mechanic here brutha...i use the Milbaukee eheh. Thanks for post!

[@jeffostroff]

Right on! Thanks Noname!

[@BlueWhaleBlues]

That ryobi wouldn’t even fit where I’ve put my fuel 1/2 inch ratchet at. The big battery makes it useless for engine bay work. You buy Milwaukee for the battery lineup not just the tool

[@jeffostroff]

I want to try the M12 Fuel version of this.

[@Waxxumus]

plus the smoke comes out too early

[@Racingboom]

jeffostroff I’ve been hearing the fuel is miles better but I’m not sure what’s improved. I have a fuel and I love it.

[@travisevans7502]

@@Racingboom The fuel has 55 # ft of torque the Milwaukee he is using has 35 # ft but I believe the rpms are lower I also have the fuel and love it..

[@Thebassguru84]

Snapon walks all over the Milwaukee!! They have the best electric ratchets hands down and always will

[@stangman1268]

i knew a person once who worked in the cabinet wood business and used Ryobi first gen never once said they were bad tools as a matter of fact i kinda got into ryobi because of him,but i'm not bias i've had bosch,milwaukee,dewalt and other brands i even have some corded HF stuff i can't say a bad thing about it.

[@jeffostroff]

Ryobi is getting better all the time.

[@dalebabbitt6185]

Good video Jeff. I was quite impressed with the Ryobi cordless ratchet. The safety aspect of proper torque on the lug nuts is important. Going a step further, no critical nuts or bolts should be considered tight enough by using the cordless ratchets. Including brake and suspension parts, etc. Always finish up with the factory torque specifications using a calibrated torque wrench. Thanks for the review!!!

[@jeffostroff]

Great point! Thanks Dale!

[@dalebabbitt6185]

@@jeffostroff I also noticed that the Ryobi drove the lag past the shoulder and sunk the hex head in the wood. Whereas the Milwaukee didn't even make it to the shoulder. Good for Ryobi, they take an unnecessary verbal beating by some.

[@svn5994]

*Facepalm* The Milwaukee is better. The Ryobi isn't nearly as capable. Let's not forget a 6Ah Fuel Milwaukee will outperform the Ryobi in every aspect. Also it's a ratchet not an impact.

[@kwslife116]

Absolutely recheck all important nuts and bolts. Twice I had lug nuts come loose after using a battery powered impact. I always recheck them now.

[@raymondwharton4325]

Coming from an ASE Automotive Technician Milwaukee battery tools are the best out on the market and smashing all the other competitors like Dewalt and Snap on. 5 year warranty, affordable, and m12 m18 batteries all charge from one charger. It just make sense to me but that just my opinion.

[@jeffostroff]

Great point! Thanks for sharing Raymond

[@trainer2018]

I have been using mine now for a couple weeks and so far I like it. I work on Transit Buses for a living. I just put the 1.5 amp hour compact battery on it if I need more room.

[@jeffostroff]

Good to hear from a bus mechanic, thanks for the feedback on this Busjockey1!

[@stereosympathy]

Let's pass this video on to Project Farm. Maybe then we could get a well constructed comparison...

[@jeffostroff]

I'll revisit this once we get a couple of more ratchets

[@PeriodPuddle]

Definitely! This guys a dork

[@chesterswingjr9796]

Yes, Project Farm is the best comparison channel on KZbin. NO ONE else even comes close!!!

[@juliocorella2793]

Finally!!! good job Jeff my opinion is milwaukee had a 12v 1.5 ah battery vs ryobi 18v battery, if you try a xc-6ah on the milwaukee i think it could of out perform the ryobi. price wise yes ryobi is coming out with some competitor that are making people go DAMM!!!

[@jeffostroff]

I plan to experiment more with the batteries

[@procrastinator1842]

Actually the 4.0 m12 batteries will give your tool the most power output, they use LG 2100mah cells which have the highest discharge current.

[@stalerideas]

Hi Jeff, i'm a big fan of you're tool reviews and Home Depot visits. Greetings from Bolivia!!!

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome, thank you! All the way from Bolivia! But no Home Depot there? How do you guys get tools like this over there?

[@stalerideas]

@@jeffostroff Yes, sadly, some guys sell those tools to higher prices here. But already i'm trying to contact to HD's export area, to buy some Milwaukees and/or Ryobis. And if it doesn't work, I hope to visit Florida next year or soon, to see more options. So if you have any tips for me, I will be very grateful.

[@shadvan9494]

I have been looking at buying the Ryobi 18v Ratchet. I have a lot of Ryobi tools so i have quit a few batteries and the 6pack changer. I do a lot of old car restoration as a hobby. it looks like a very nice tool with the exception is that it is very heavy and the battery on the end makes it kind of awkward in tights spaces. the Milwaukee is a more elegant design. its lighter and for a professional mechanic that uses it all day long that is a big difference. for someone like me that just uses it on weekends the Ryobi would be prefect and the 18v battery pack will last monger then the 12v pack. TTI makes both the Ryobi and the Milwaukee branded power tools, so I expect them to preform about the same with the advantage going to the 18v. these would be great for small jobs, but neither could replace my Campbell-Hausfeld GSD air ratchet for speed or power when working on a car. also you should never tighten lug nuts with a impact wrench. using an impact wrench can over tighten the lugs damaging the threads on the stud, damaging the wheel rim, and possibly warping the break drum or rotor. I know a lot of contractors that use Ryobi because of the price of the batteries when compared to Milwaukee or DeWalt or others. the Hart stuff is just recolored Ryobi with a different battery pack design. the guts are identical.

[@jeffostroff]

In the shops I only see them using impact wrenches. Maybe they set them for 100 ft-lbs and they stop?

[@shadvan9494]

@@jeffostroff they make what is called a "Torque Stick" that limits how much torque an impact wrench can apply. they basically act like a torsion bar a limit how much torque is applied to a fastener. the tire shop may have been using one of those. they work well, but they are not as accurate as a good torque wrench. and by good torque wrench I mean something not bought at harbor freight. the Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman, and Tekton torque wrench's are all good and moderately priced. I have had bad experiences with HF tools. and their Pittsburg line in particular is junk. I hear good things about Icon, but after my bad experiences, I am not going to switch form Tekton and my old USA made Husky tools.

[@shadvan9494]

@@jeffostroff I did end up buying the Ryobi 3/8 ratchet. my first one was defective right out of the box. it appears that the F/R selector was stuck in the middle and would not turn to engage the pawls. I returned it to to HD and got another one. so far the replacement has worked perfectly and just used it to replace the battery in my 1970 Camaro SS 396. worked very well and the amount of time it saved was amazing. I was a little worried after the first one was defective, but so far I am very happy with it, and its not like this is the first thing I bought that was defective right out of the box. I had this same thing happen with the Husky 33in mechanics tool cart last year... some worker at the factory installed the drawer locking mechanism incorrectly, so none of the drawers would lock with lid in the closed position. upon inspecting it, the lock mechanism was 180 degrees backwards. the one good thing I can say about shopping at HD is the returns department took care of it with no hassle.

[@zakmiller6309]

I’m 18 and have been a mechanic most of my life. I’ve never actually found a use for these. Not my cup of tea if you ask me. I’d rather take the time to unscrew a bolt “by hand” with a ratchet or even use a battery impact or air impact. I’m sure they have their place though

[@jeffostroff]

Battery change outs and spark plug changes.

[@fogcabin]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JohnWhite-Iowa-City]

Wait until you have been a mechanic for double your life and get back to me. I can tell you old fingers, hands, and arms like these electric ratchets,, ahhh except that giant Ryobi.

[@meandean222]

Looks like you covered everything. Great video, a ton of information, all of which is useful!

[@jeffostroff]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@daveN2MXX]

12v "vs" 18v....apples vs. oranges. Anyone who has used a ratchet can also appreciate the form factor of the Milwaukee vs the Ryobi with that huge battery.

[@jeffostroff]

But I Love how Ryobi overcame that huge battery with the rotating head, makes it a non-issue now.

[@TSKseattle]

I have a lot of ryobi electric tools, because I can swap batteries as needed, but that big square battery on the end of a slim line tool could be a problem. You started the video talking about tight spaces in a car, and that battery could be a real access problem. Still I don't know if I want to go buy one milwaukee tool

[@jeffostroff]

@@TSKseattle Tom, didn't you see the part where I compared both tools side by side and showed how we rotate the head on the Ryobi to make the battery a non-issue?

[@SteedDigital1]

@@jeffostroff it's not a non issue if you work in tight engine space. I've squeezed my manual ratchets into some small spaces that would not give you space for that battery at the end. I have all ryobi tools but given other options can offer a slimmer design it really puts me off the tool. If not for tight spaces then 18V every time over 12v rachet.

[@mysterycomment1553]

jeffostroff battery on the Ryobi is still a issue. Especially if working in engine bays.

[@drainmonkeys385]

Ryobi tools are pretty much just as good... it’s the battery platform that you chose that should inform your purchase decisions

[@jeffostroff]

Fortunately I have both battery platforms

[@babygamer405]

I own many Milwaukee and Ryobi Tools, love them both with no complaints. Ryobi is more budget friendly and I never run into a job a Ryobi tool can't handle.

[@hymlog]

...NEVER EVER LET THE MAGIC SMOKE ESCAPE!!

[@jeffostroff]

Snort it through one nostril for maximum effect

[@fogcabin]

I've used the milwaukee one on cars and put to MUCH abuse. You can use it as an actual locking ratchet to break lose nuts and tighten. So no need to worry about breaking anything in the head of the ratchet. Most things needing tighten and lossened with a 3/8" ratchet don't take or should take enough torque to do any damage. I have also just purchased the ryobi WITH a battery and charger for only 20$ more which seemed worth it as I was in the market for another battery. I'll see how much more I'll use it over the milwaukee.i really do like the idea of a rotating head yet you can rotate the milwaukee 360. Very thorough review . Again you can buy the ryobi with a battery and charger now

[@jeffostroff]

That makes the Ryobi more attractive now with the battery in the kit. You got lucky not busting the head when nut busting or when tightening the nuts. But just be aware the Milwaukee printed instructions for this tool warn us not to do that.

[@fogcabin]

@@jeffostroff yea definitely worth it with the battery and charger. And I don't do it on HEAVILY torqued bolts. Pretty much anything I wouldn't use bigger than a 3/8" ratchet on i wont use this on. And always switch to an actual ratchet to tighten. Essentially common sense. If you work on cars daily you get a feel of when something is about to break and what its limit is. But so far that past few days using the ryobi has been great. The battery did prevent me from getting into a starter signal wire bolt but swiveling the head solved that. So definitely worth it imo. Also thanks again for the review great work!!!

[@rob-toolsandtech2521]

Cool, I might get one. This was helpful, because it’ll probably end up being between the Ryobi and the new M12 fuel high speed ratchet Milwaukee just announced.

[@jeffostroff]

I want to get a Fuel version, for more torque

[@rob-toolsandtech2521]

@@jeffostroff yeah, that would definitely be cool.

[@CloudSportracer]

I do have the Milwaukee ratchet but my garage is full of green. My concern here is the smoke exerted by the Ryobi. You put the Milwaukee through its paces but smoke was not apparent.

[@jeffostroff]

Yes, I was straining both of those drivers, and on automotive work probably won't be that harsh

[@chrisumali9841]

Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day. Awesome testing technique!

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for watching!

[@user-zf4qs2jy3n]

From an electrician of 20 years of industrial and construction Ryobi is great for home, not quit tough enough for commercial or industrial work. The bodies flex too much under load, frequently pinching the palm of my hand. The motors stall out before long before Ridgid, Milwakee or Dewalt. Many of the Ryobi motor gears are polymer and do not stand up to abuse. They are cheap for a reason. I use Ryobi for home use. I bought into the brand explicitly for the cordless fan and have acquired several more Ryobi tools with no regrets.

[@jeffostroff]

Good info!

[@craigdoesstuff5270]

Its a wrench not an impact it would never be used to drive lags or tighten lug nuts

[@jeffostroff]

It would never? You underestimate what people try to do with their tools

[@juniorjones5137]

Thank u for not cursing good video God bless

[@jeffostroff]

No problem thanks for watching junior

[@kencooper2059]

I've been a professional contractor for 35 years and Ryobi has really upped it's game. Sure, the high-end brands are still a little better in most cases, but Ryobi is on their heels. Their tools perform well, they last, and they are priced right! I actually use Ryobi in my home shop due to the shear selection of tools that will all use the same battery and the low cost. It's served me very well.

[@jeffostroff]

I think Ryobi will blur the lines on this HP lieneup.

[@Rwalt61]

Three tool lines. Looks like me. Dewalt drill, Milwaukee and Ryobi ratchet. I have a Bosch 18v ½" pistol and right angle drill, a whole bunch of Ryobi 18v+ tools, and Kobalt ½" and ⅜" impact guns and 4" angle grinder.

[@classicshoelaces1465]

Love the video quality also how you respond to every comment great reviews but I have a question what do you think of the air rachets

[@jeffostroff]

Air ratchets are the best! They are especially used for lug nuts as they can handle the torque required, often over 100 ft-lbs for lug nuts. But for tight work inside the engine, you might be better off with the smaller and more mobile Milwaukee and Ryobi.

[@mperuski100]

Ryobi is prosumer. I've used their products for years. The short coming has always been battery life. Ni-cad let me down, My fault leaving them in the charger all the time. Just bought the new green line. Lot less expensive and same or better specs.

[@jeffostroff]

Yes I always tell people with all those old school nicad batteries to ditch those old systems even if you have to pay money to upgrade to a newer brushless motor with lithium ion batteries their lives will be much much better there will be much happier with newer more modern more powerful and lighter tools

[@AZTechLabs]

They are the same tool under the covers. slight changes in outer shell. milwaukee, rigid, ryobi are the same company. They used to swap out plastic for metal, and sometimes better motors but lately they don't even do that to keep costs down. Notice that the rigid and ryobi are starting to look alike? I have friends that work at the factory, even swapped out made our own version of tools.

[@jeffostroff]

I'd like to see a red/green/orange version!

[@stanleymcman9422]

Love the video Jeff and people still keep bashing Ryobi well the proof is now fact you showed what can and cannot be done with each. I sent you an email what a picture of the new Milwaukee packout tool box with drawers I saw a picture of it from Vince from VGC not sure on pricing part number or availability at this time

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks, awesome photo. Are they coming out with new other Packout cases also?

[@stanleymcman9422]

@@jeffostroff I have no idea maybe Vince they have a better inside track let's see if he makes a video about it and if he comment on any other new items that may be coming out or available according to the rumors that box may go for about $150

[@JohnWhite-Iowa-City]

That explanation on torque wrench use was hilarious. Wear it out?

[@jeffostroff]

Remember these are light use 35 ft-lbs max

[@georgeburns7251]

Agree.

[@warrenb4421]

I don't know if either if these are intended to drive lag bolts. Use an impactor for that.

[@jeffostroff]

Not even close, they are rated for 35 ft-lbs, light duty. Once you nut bust the lug nuts, then you can use this to spin it off, or on the bolt, i do this all the time

[@brianrogers6731]

enjoyed the comparison of both tools, interesting to see how the ryobi holds up.

[@jeffostroff]

You and me both!

[@honkhonkler7732]

I bought into the Milwhackoff 12v system just for this ratchet and the FUEL 90 degree impact wrench. It's compact and easier to fit in tight spaces and the price isn't an immediate turnoff like Snap-On. I just find myself wishing for a Makita version because Milwaukee seems to cheap out on tools that aren't flagship models. Noticeable difference in build quality between the affordable brushed and overpriced FUEL stuff. Makita seems to keep quality and design the same across brushed and brushless versions of the same tool for less money. TTI is milking the brand name.

[@jeffostroff]

I need to score a Fuel version of this tool also.

[@craigdoesstuff5270]

Makita does have a ratchet on the CXT line and I like it better then the Milwaukee. It has interchangeable anvils so you get a 1/4" and 3/8"

@@craigdoesstuff5270 Is that the one that does 800 Rpms? Would be real nice for somebody that puts tons of nuts and bolts in just one after another and needs it done fast. For automotive the battery was a little much but other than that i'm sure if you're in the lineup it would be nice to have.

[@bobwolf1811]

@@craigdoesstuff5270 Makita also has a CXT impact wrench. I use mine for my lightweight jobs, and it is much more powerful than a cordless ratchet. For heavier work I use more powerful impact wrenches. These cordless ratchets seem to be way underpowered for real life applications.

[@s4alexis]

Nice video, but little suggestion. I wouldn’t use a crowbar to tighten lugs.

[@jeffostroff]

Impact wrench?

[@knobsdialsandbuttons]

Great video. The Ryobi doesn't appear to be available in Ireland which is disappointing, especially as I already have the batteries and charger ready to go !

[@jeffostroff]

Can you get it from amazon with international shiiping?

[@knobsdialsandbuttons]

@@jeffostroff I probably could, thanks Jeff, but the shipping cost and duty we pay here would probably double the cost 😁. I'll get my hands on one by hook or by crook ! lol

[@agalpalacio9157]

hopefully ryobi launches a full cordless ratchet lineup, brushed and brushless

[@jeffostroff]

That would be a nice offering

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great work Jeff 💪

[@jeffostroff]

Glad you liked it!

[@roncooke2188]

You have some great comments nothing more i could add, I do use a number of Ryobi tools but not got the ratchet yet. Nice video interesting

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks 👍 Ron!

[@jjon901]

Great review! Looking forward to the Hart 20v pressure washer review!

[@jeffostroff]

You and me both! Hope to start filming that one tomorrow, had lot so setbacks last week with rain, heat, emergencies, then my Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 boxes arrived a week early and took priority

[@markcook5962]

Looking forward to that one also. Maybe a comparison with the Ryobi??

[@bigjose8358]

Ryobi has a bit of advantage because of the battery 18 vs 12 volt but yes budget wise Ryobi...Also i don't like the big battery on the Ryobi in tight spots it wont work...

[@krapeevids6992]

Idk man, quite a few of my coworkers use Milwaukee cordless tools and swear by them BUT I’ve been seeing their tools crapping out on them A LOT lately. I’m a Dewalt guy myself but when I need a tool that I’m Not going to use a lot, like this Ryobi ratchet that I’m considering buying, I will buy the tool only and just use my Dewalt to Ryobi battery adapter. $30 on Amazon...works great!!

[@jeffostroff]

That's a cool idea!

[@Invisible_Poop]

Great video!! Milwaukee came out with a M12 Fuel 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch Right Angle Impact Wrench!! M12!!

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for the info!Yes, we showed the 1/2" on the display at Home Depot during this video.

[@johnbailey2034]

I have both which do I like most ? The milwaukee . The milwaukee can definitely get in tighter places . But if you like a low cost tool the Roy I is not that bad and it will save you time .

[@jeffostroff]

both perform equally for me

[@stevennihipali3607]

this isn't what the tool was built for... lol. It's a ratchet, not an impact driver. I'm 100% sure if you tried to drive that screw with an M12 impact over a Ryobi impact, yeah, different story. Do appreciate the video though. Very thurough

[@jeffostroff]

Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."

[@fakeMbadge]

Well I've been in the market for a ratchet. (I just work on my person vehicles usually toyota cars) i got the m18 fuel 1/2 mid torque and the 90 degree m12 impact (it a crazy how small and powerful it is) I think I'm gonna go with a ryobi for the ratchet I have an adaptor for my m18 to ryobi tools that I run my recip saw and my lawnmower/ weed trimmer. Both are great brands dont let a battery hold you back go buy a 25 dollar adapter and live freely.

[@jeffostroff]

That's a novel idea on the adapter!

[@WayneVali]

Nice vid, just felt like I watched about 10 adverts in 1 minute lol

[@jeffostroff]

Without a doubt KZbin has been cramming ads on videos like crazy. I'm always ready to hit that skip button as soon as it becomes highlighted

[@arnoldtanodra9082]

Jeff... what kind of step ladder do you use? And or what's the best step ladder in the market right now?

[@jeffostroff]

The ladder I plan to get soon now that it's $20 less than the $99 Father's Day price is the 6 ft. DeWalt Fiberglass Stepladder homedepot.sjv.io/a0A2o What I really like about it is the larger steps, so I don't stand on the balls of my feet and it digs in to my foot. This new ladder has deeper mega step, designed to provide 25 % more standing surface, so more surface area of your feet rest on the step, better balance. Also Fiberglass means I wont get shocked when doing electrical work if a live wire touches my ladder. Also top has a magnet tray, and bottom has impact absorbing bottom bracing. I showed this ladder at Home Depot during one of my walk throughs in early June.

[@Msleelee9487]

Hey man I’m sold on that Milwaukee I been trying to get a sensor out in a tight spot so yeah I need this thank you sir👍

[@jeffostroff]

No problem 👍

[@mariob4243]

I agree ryobi getting Better with more compact brushless tools.. the prices coming up a bit on those but they seem to work very well

[@jeffostroff]

I like their 3" cutoff tool

[@denseleit]

So I noticed on the car the Ryobi stripped the threads it appears. The Milwaukee stopped the bolt when it was at the torque level was reached, but the Ryobi kept spinning the bolt until you stopped it. Looked stripped. This video could have been drastically shortened with keeping to the important things.

[@ricdonato4328]

Other than the annoying background music your video is very enlightening. Thank you for sharing this information. My tool is the RIDGID JobMax 18V and 12V. Their ratchet is not as strong, yet serves me well. JobMax provides many changeable heads.

[@jeffostroff]

Sorry about that

[@MrWhaatay]

If you actually did tests instead of depending on spes from the manufacturers you would see the Milwaukee has a much faster RPM

[@jeffostroff]

Milwaukee does not have a "much faster" RPM, they both have the same RPM, and they both have the same 35 ft-lbs

[@MrWhaatay]

@@jeffostroff No load is over 400 RPM on the Milwaukee.

[@MP-zv6fm]

Yeah, you're not supposed to use a ratchet with a bolt going into a small pilot hole. Thats what the impact driver is for. Removing it from an already anchored bolt would be more realistic. Plus a 12v vs an 18v is not a apples to apples comparisons.

[@jeffostroff]

Even though it is 12v vs 18 v, they are the same 35 ft-lb torque and 250 RPM, why would that not be the same thing?

[@huepowered]

For engine bay work, the ryobi is worthless. Rotating head will help in some spots, but the battery will keep you from putting that thing deep in any engine bay.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for sharing, I can go fairly deep with no problem. It's only an issue when you have to go way down or squeeze into an area where there is no space. But for common repairs like removing batteries, spark plugs, changing main engine gasket, all of those common repairs are reachable with the Ryobi as well.

[@FAMOUSSLICKRICK]

Awesome review my friend..You answered a lot of my questions about why I should own one of these ratchets. 😎

[@jeffostroff]

Glad I could help

[@devilefan]

You have to take into consideration that the Ryobi is 18 V and the Milwaukee is 12.... I would expect the Ryobi to be a little more powerful just for that reason but I can see for sure that the Milwaukee will last a lot longer In terms of longevity

[@jeffostroff]

I want to upgrade to the brushess Fuel Ratchet and try that one.

[@devilefan]

jeffostroff ...Yeah the fuel is supposed to be more powerful even though it's still 12 V

[@nonamegiven5744]

@@devilefan recent got a 3/8 stubby fuel for 130.tool only...omgosh can do brakes on my 01 Silverado...its beast!

[@devilefan]

noname given .... That's not a bad price.... i'm not a mechanic so I don't really need the fuel version..lol...I got the other one just for basic nuts and bolts

[@playdg]

@@jeffostroff Could also try a more powerful battery on the M12s.

[@AlexRides808]

I just use a 90 degree attachment for my impact

[@jeffostroff]

Good idea, but how do you get the impact to fit all the way down deep?

[@calebwright2849]

Only thing that bites is the way the battery is, i understand iits an 18v battery but you think ryobi would have oriented it where it was the least slim. If it was angled right with a compact 1.5ah battery it might fit into some tighter areas. I men if milwaukee made an 18v ratchet itd be the same way. Il probably get the ryobi just bc i have an air ratchet for when i need somthing slim and i already have a 18v ryobi set, i also have 1/2in 2767 high torque milwaukee impact wrench kit, came with 2 5ah batteries, a rubber boot, led light and an impact socket set on sale for 4.79. For the money you just cant beat that milwaukee impact wrench its a monster. Just got a milwaukee blower too but for most other tools ryibi is more than adequate. I might even get there new 1/2in hp impact wrench bc its so compact and powerful. But its hard to justify bc i have a decent air supply but sometimes you dont have access to the compressor and its nice to not have the hose sometimes.

[@jeffostroff]

Believe me though that rotating head they put on there is a great design feature that really does help move the battery out of the way in certain cases. But yes Ryo be is limited by their battery design that hasn't changed in years and they really need to come up with a slim battery elect those smaller Milwaukee M12 CP batteries that are basically little cylinders that would help tremendously

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

This would be an awesome video to do on the new Fast ratchets from Milwaukee as well as the fuel models from Milwaukee vs the brushed Milwaukee and the ryobi in one video @Jeffostroff

[@jeffostroff]

Yes with a boatload of cash influx I could buy the other 2, these ratchets are pricey from Milwaukee

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@jeffostroff you are right they are pricey didn't realize you didn't have them I have all the brushed and brushless ratchets including the extended ratchets just don't have the speed ratchets yet

[@ichoozjc]

Did you put the drill in reverse when you pulled the drill bit out of the wood??? 👀

[@jeffostroff]

cant remember

[@marioestrada4666]

I like the Milwaukee way better it's more compact easier to work on tight spaces ryobi battery is just to dam Big

[@jeffostroff]

Mario Ryobi is the same exact size when you rotate the head around so that it faces the skinny side.

[@adgarbault]

@@jeffostroff It's the same until you need to shove the tool into a hole deeper than the battery.

[@PeriodPuddle]

@@jeffostroff you're a tool

[@Tf2N3rd]

I already have the One+ setup, I'm looking for a budget (less than $100) ratchet. Ill be using it to work on cars. Should I go with the Ryobi or a standalone like the ProStormer, Kimo or AC Delco?

[@jeffostroff]

Look at the size of the Ryobi, see if it will fit where you need to use it.

[@redneck4528]

You should buy the 3/8 Milwaukee Fuel, it will last, fit in places the Ryobi will not. Plus if you ever decide to part with it you'll get more of your investment back on Craigslist or marketplace.

[@xlightssx]

ryobi could have easily built that rachet with an internal battery like husky. The battery defeats the purpose of the tool (fitting into small areas).

[@boobaboopi8414]

I would have gone for the ryobi if the battery wasn't that big. I bought the milwaukee m12. I have a ryobi impact wrench for almost 2 years and it still works great.

[@53WRX]

Did you find the Ryobi trigger handle had quite a bit of rattle ?

[@TSKseattle]

By the way, pointing that laser at your camera is a good way to burn out the CCD chip. You can see in the video how it tried to crank down the exposure to that light

[@jeffostroff]

That's why I did it real fast.

[@veokham1981]

Good advice and comparsion.

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it was helpful!

[@davel2858]

Very insightful but I prefer my Dewalt pneumatic...plus I love the power/sound in my garage...my impact as well.

[@jeffostroff]

Good choice Dave, I mainly use mine for dishwasher installations, and working in tight spaces in engine.

[@jeffostroff]

@ You know it, those things are loud, I've been at ground zero when one of those things goes off, thankfully it's only for a second.

[@Demymaker]

Maybe I'm wrong (mine is a bad English) but you are comparing a 12v product with a 18v product ... maybe a non-equal comparison? correct me if I'm wrong..

[@jeffostroff]

Yes but they both have the same to work so it's not like you can assume that the 18 Volt product necessarily has more power than the 12 Volt product, because they both have the exact same torque spec

[@limestar9751]

The ratchet and the Brad nailer from ryobi seem to be very well reviewed tools. Not much else. I just got the Brad nailer and it is living up to the reviews.

[@jeffostroff]

I heard a number of guys on our livestream in Home Depot also tell me the Ryobi nailer was good.

[@thedewdster]

@@jeffostroff I thought the Ryobi nailer was decent too when I used my co-workers until my boss bought me the fuel 18 Brad nailer as a bonus for a job and HOLY CRAP does it shit all over the Ryobi. Not just in ergonomics but in battery usage and nail depth consistency as well

[@kennyweaver3597]

I wonder if you use a bigger battery on the Milwaukee would it do better

[@jeffostroff]

Well the tools are both rated 35 ft-lbs I doubt increasing the voltage will do anything if they put voltage regulation in

[@1990themule]

Not even 2 minutes in and regardless of results I’d never get the ryobi. Battery is too big for engine bays and the trigger looks awful

[@jeffostroff]

As long as you don't have to reach too deep, won't be a problem. Certainly we can sue it for changing spark plugs, and replacing car batteries, and on log nuts once we loosen them. Or use them to tighten lug nuts before we torque them down. Of course using on a regular basis with lug nuts, you'll likely use an impact wrench.

[@1990themule]

jeffostroff yeah I suppose I’m looking at it from my point of view as a mechanic where I’m using these things everyday. For a guy on his driveway the ryobi would be absolutely fine

[@coytus94]

I personally would never use a cordless or even pneumatic ratchet for any car with that involves having to dig deep inside somewhere to reach a fastener in a very tight space. 1) the ratchets are too bulky, regardless of what kind of battery pack is on it, and 2) if the fastener is super tight and you're not able to break it loose by hand, and you try to loosen it up with just the trigger you'll end up smacking your fingers against other parts and bruising them up, hence why these are called "knuckle busters" lol. Not saying they're bad ratchets that can't be used on cars by any means, they just need to be used in more open areas and only on fasteners that were broken loose/are not super tight to begin with. They weren't designed to be able to be used in super tight areas. Some more than others yes, but they will not be able to fit halfway up underneath an engine to reach a highly mounted starter or anything like that.

[@truth4reel]

@@coytus94 power ratchet is designed to speed up work and the time saved adds up. You don't have to be able to break the fastener loose with it to benefit from the speed advantage.

[@bobwolf1811]

I enjoyed learning from this video, but I question the validity of your results. Shouldn't an 18 volt tool like the Ryobi outperform a 12 volt tool like the Milwaukee? To compare apples to apples, perhaps you should compare 18 volt performance to 18 volt performance, and likewise with 12 volt tools. If Milwaukee built a ratchet on its M18 platform, I doubt the Ryobi 18 volt ratchet would prove to be much competition. Ryobi also doesn't seem to sell a ratchet in its 12 volt platform, so we can't get a fair test on 12 volt ratchets, either.

[@misfit4777]

Thanks 👍🏼

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for participating during the premiere live chat misfit!

[@mmgg103]

Thank you good job.

[@rogercarr4060]

Is that a boot leg milwaukee battery it looks like it from the bottom of it

[@jeffostroff]

Shhhhh, our little secret

[@uliflores2408]

So the ryobi has a bit more power to handle that larger bolt because it runs on an 18v battery right and the milwaukee is 12v. Also i think you are using a 3 or 4ah on the ryobi in this video is it not? Looks a little too big for it to be the 2ah one that it comes with

[@jeffostroff]

The Ryobi is a tool only. I should try my 1.5 on it and see if it works as strong, not sure I did that one yet.

[@uliflores2408]

jeffostroff Online there is an option for charger and two batteries(2ah). Im sure that is a big factor with it being 18v and 4ah. There was another video somehwere on youtube of a guy doing a review on a ryobi tool and got different results on the same job when he would swap between lower and higher amp batteries.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Ryobi had no problem with the 1/2 lag because it has a massive 4.0ah batteries and its a 20v tool compared to a 12 volt tool the Milwaukee might perform better with a xc 4.0ah battery @Jeffostroff

[@jeffostroff]

The Ryobi motor is rated at the same 35 ft lb

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@jeffostroff I understand it's rated at the same 35 ft pounds but ryobi under rates there tools on paper and 20v tools will give more initial torque because higher voltage also means higher ampage dump from the battery compared to a 12v tool its ohms law

[@mikemorgan5015]

I would have liked to see you use a fully charged XC battery pack on the Milwaukee since it was against a tool with 6 more volts and ?more amp hours. XC packs put out more amps under load and can make a big difference. Pros don't generally use Ryobi because they don't hold up over time. Another couple of seconds on that lag screw and that Ryobi would have let out the smoke for the last time. And it's brand new! It lacks the protection circuitry that the Milwaukee has to keep from damaging the tool and the battery. That circuitry cost money to make. For weekend warriors or guys starting out on a tight budget, it may make sense. Some contractors do buy Ryobi because their crews will destroy whatever brand they provide and consider them disposable. Just like GM makes both Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, TTI makes 4 lines of cordless power tools. And just like GM's cars, TTI's tools are for different levels of buyers. Hart at Wal-Mart, no explanation necessary. To early to discuss how they will last. Ryobi are entry level/consumer tools. Usually work fine for a short while and suddenly die. Rigid licensed by Emerson, prosumer tools. No where near the quality of the actual RIGID hand tools used by plumbers and electricians everywhere. Rigid in name only, though decent quality. Milwaukee is the premium line used by pros in the same league as DeWalt and Makita. Each has their niche and price point that caters to the respective buyer. Premium brands cost more because they are made to higher standards with better components. Yes, some components will cross brand boundaries. But when you look at the materials and electronics inside, the difference is apparent. Heavier wiring, potted electronics, higher quality machining, better fit and finish, stronger plastics with more glass fiber reinforcement, better warranties, better batteries, etc, etc. No company makes perfect tools. But you generally get what you pay for.

[@jeffostroff]

So Mike, I don't think adding a more powerful battery gives you more power. That's a mistake many people make with regard to power tools. A Higher capacity battery just gives you longer battery life. The motor is set to perform at the speed it performs once it sees 12V. the only tools we know of that produce more power and torque with a larger batter are Dewalt's new PowerDetect series introduced in March.

[@mikemorgan5015]

@@jeffostroff That's mostly false. The bullet battery in that tool has 3 cells. XC packs have 6. That is twice the available amps as they are two parallel banks of 3cells each in series. Now, testing the 3 cell packs against each other you are probably correct. I.e. a 3ah battery likely wouldn't show a performance increase over a 2ah pack. Only runtime would change. And likewise with the 3,4 and 6ah XC packs when compared against each other. I cannot say for sure that this particular tool can draw enough amps under severe load to make a difference though. I do know that the battery and tool "talk" to each other and if either reaches an overload threshold, the circuitry will cut power to the motor. I own over 100 Milwaukee cordless tools, both M12 and M18. That obviously doesn't make me the foremost expert on the topic, but I use them every day.(not all of them of course) And I know my tools. Due to the compactness and performance of the M12 tools, they are the ones I tend to use the most. I can tell you from experience that the larger packs will produce more power under load than the compact packs. And with either pack there is a noticeable difference in power between a battery with 4 bars and one with 1 or 2 bars. For instance, one of the common tasks I perform is to drill and tap 2 1/4-20 holes and one 1-1/8 hole in 1/4 in mild steel and sometimes AR plate. The bullet packs easily drill and tap the 1/4-20 hole without issue. But if I try to drill the 1-1/8 hole with a thin wall hole saw, it will constantly cut out. When I switch to an XC pack, it plows right through with no cutouts. I can say with absolute certainty that the M12 drills, impacts, circular saws, inflator, die grinders, cutoff saw, polisher, and vacuum all perform much better with XC packs. Low drain tools like lights, soldering iron, stapler, caulk gun etc don't draw enough power to show any noticeable difference. I think the ratchet falls into that "maybe, maybe not" category until I see it tested or test it myself. An odd side note: Some lower capacity packs have cell chemistry that enables higher drain rates than their higher capacity brothers, giving higher performance with less runtime. I think this all is a great topic for a video in the future. Simply drive a lag with a compact battery and switch to an XC pack and see if it makes a repeatable difference. Sorry to be so long winded. It's a curse of mine. haha! Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work.

[@foam27]

10:26 you never tightened the bolt all the way, because you were afraid you were going to strip the bolt ;) Defeated the purpose of the test, just saying should have used it on a bigger bolt.

[@jeffostroff]

It tightened all the way you can hear the clutch disengage.

[@Skwish6952]

My opinion with the ryobi. They should have just put the head on backwards and made the head fixed. From my experience, anytime they have a tool with a rotating head they are not very strong. It would not surprise me if that ryobi didnt last very long

[@jeffostroff]

This is a light duty tool not meant to be a very strong tool anyway it is only rated for 35 foot pounds so whatever you're concerned about I don't think it's even an issue for them

[@randyross282]

Good job Jeff! Randy from Michigan

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for watching tonight Randy!

[@DanielGomez-cf6vk]

Awesome video

[@jeffostroff]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@uliflores2408]

Im thinking of getting the ryobi since I have a single ryobi battery and charger just sitting there after leaving my drill at my old job. Atleast thats what i think happened to it. That way ill only need to get the tool which is $79 The only problem is that the battery is a 4ah, alot bigger than the 2ah it comes with. Hipefully the weight increase doesnt make it ridiculous to use

[@jeffostroff]

I should try it with the 1.5 aH that comes with it

[@pl5624]

The m12 fuel is a beast compared to the brushed.

[@jeffostroff]

I need to upgrade to the fuel.

[@pl5624]

@@jeffostroff I use the smaller one for smaller fasteners I might overtorque with the fuel.just the head on the fuel weighs a bunch more.

[@ryanoliver4062]

The fuel model is terrible, the head is way to big

[@izzyzilla80]

And to be fair your using a small battery on Milwaukee and the tool is 3 years old

[@jeffostroff]

And to be fair, a big battery on the tool isn't going to give more power to the tool, or make it spin faster, don't know where you come up with this nonsense.

[@Silentroller93]

Is obvious that the 18v will do more work than the 12v, get an 18v Milwaukee ratchet then talk to me

[@jeffostroff]

Yes I plan to upgrade to the Fuel soon, just waiting for a deal of the day or something interesting.

[@randybobandy9828]

Lol compare tools based on price not voltage.

[@pszwed2000]

Milwaukee 12v vs Ryobi 18v come on ????

[@jeffostroff]

Use your head. They both have the same RPM and the same Torque spec. Battery voltage probably has no bearing on this.

[@jun2611]

Why not using the current model from Milwaukee n redo the test??? The one u have on hand is like 4 years old model. By the way, even the torque n rpm r similar on both Ryobi n Milwaukee, Voltage DOES make a huge different, u have to put on consideration of battery voltage drop under load, bla bla bla ... this video is not a fair comparison to me.

[@randybobandy9828]

@@jun2611 it is a fair comparison because of the price.

[@ceeloc4420]

Great video

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for the visit

[@ghostnotes5667]

TTI the manufacturer of Milwaukee makes the Ryobi at the same plant.

[@jeffostroff]

I figured with the same specs they have the same guts

[@ghostnotes5667]

@@jeffostroff I’ve got tools from both lines and dollar for dollar Ryobi is a great product.

[@wskripka1]

What's that Table you showed for a few seconds walking up to the car ?

[@jeffostroff]

That is the 🛒 DeWalt Folding Portable Workbench (at Home Depot) homedepot.sjv.io/Qo9vo

[@wskripka1]

Thanks , I see A KETER TABLE , for about $ 60 , on eBay which is similar . Thanks , enjoy all your videos . Wayne

[@wskripka1]

Thanks again , I found your review on the Keter table too .