Ryzen 3 5300G vs 3400G & 2400G

[@spinkick9270]

I feel like bar graphs would work better for me. The graphics goes away way too quick but I really love this video. Excellent work.

[@Rouxenator]

I loved my 2400G! Replaced it with a 4750G that I paid way too much for only to now see they sell the 5700G to the public for less than I paid for a 4750G...

[@srr1887]

4000 series is just... Avoidable

[@TopHatCat1989]

I started out with the 2400g on my first PC build back in 2019, used it without a GPU for a month as a stopgap, then got an RX 570 8GB card, this was just before the pandemic. I've already upgraded to a R5 3600 so I'm probably going to either sell the 2400G or build an HTPC around it to replace the PS4 as my streaming box.

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

Can you make a video sometime on how you do it? Like how do you stay prolific with what you’ve been going through? I’m always so impressed

[@UFDTech]

How do I do it? Poorly. With pain & struggling, but also with hope. I fail a lot more than I succeed at everything in my life, I just don't post my failures.

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

@@UFDTech we’re all super proud of you for giving it your best and the humanity of your response. Thanks so much 🙏🔥🔥 you’ve got this!!!

[@theencore398]

@@UFDTech respect for you man, everything will be fine. I pray to god for ya mate.

[@MeariBamu]

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[@EvyFurry]

Finally, I was waiting for this

[@wh0_am_152]

11:30 Brett to answer your question, the primary likely reason(s) why the are still pushing the 3400G is the fact(s) that the 3400G is still made on Zen+ using Global Foundries' 12nm node and likely because AMD still has some commitments with Global Foundries through 2024, or the alternative reason is maybe Global Foundries is less congested than TSMC.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Probably all of the above.

[@poppyrider5541]

To stop ppl making console replacements. Sony, MS and Steam are all using RDNA 2 APUs, it would be odd if AMD said 'here's console performance for much less. Go make PS5s and XBOXs obsolete' They don't want to cannibalise their console or GPU markets. Idk. Just guessing.

[@DumDoDoor]

Good think'n detective.

[@DOdS1]

i'll wait until the ddr5 APUs launch to see how much performace we will gain on the APUs,maybe they will overtake even more the low end graphics segment

[@BeaHasPP]

Yep can't wait for an APU with RDNA2 on the zen 2 or 3 running ddr5 but it's going to be a few years before ddr5 is really a good value for money but

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

At that point, only server CPUs and older systems will need a low-end graphics card.

[@BeaHasPP]

@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis there are a few other use cases like people who are need a super energy efficiency gaming pc with upgradability or super small form factor of just someone who's on a super tight budget or someone who knows what types of games they play and APU meats that.

[@viztiz316]

Leaks suggest the 6800h(?) performs 2 times better than a iris xe dg1 with a single stick of 4800mhz drr5 ram on stock speeds It'll probably be better than a 1050 ti if you get dual channel 5000+ mhz and OC the iGPU

[@falcon6329]

this type of charts is actually very easy to read

[@midoribishithegamer]

First, love that TMNT shirt. And I've also been waiting for this.

[@CreativityNull]

I know this probably wasn't the intent, but with the crap ASRock does sometimes, and with other KZbinrs refusing to cover them because of it, it feels like putting the Intel motherboard sponsor spot in a video about AMD CPUs is a quiet middlefinger to ASRock lol. It probably wasn't the intent, but whether or not it was, they deserve it.

[@ElNeroDiablo]

This vid got me looking at 5300G offerings on eBay Aus, found a few selling 5600G's for $429 AUD & 5700G's for $629 AUD (they all ran out of 5300G's). That got me to check my usual Aussie PC part retailers like PCCaseGear down in Melbourne - they're selling 5600G's for $399 AUD & 5700G's for $549 AUD. Checking benches of the 5600G & 5700G against my aging 5820K, and both are leaving my old Haswell-E 6-core in the dust with 14-18% higher effective speeds, 31-40% higher average scores and 15-23% higher overclocked scores on UserBenchmark (I know other places might have different numbers, but even still my old "Extreme" chip is left in the dust either way).

[@weewa.1]

If u find a 5600x tho for a good deal get that

[@ElNeroDiablo]

@@weewa.1well, it's like $30 AUD more to get a 5600X over the 5600G ($429 AUD Vs. $399 AUD), and $100 AUD more to get a 5800X over 5700G ($649 AUD Vs $549 AUD). $30 AUD more for a 5% bump in speed and scores between the Ryzen 5's, $100 AUD more for a 4% bump in speed and scores between the Ryzen 7's. Personally, I don't think it's worth spending $30-100 AUD more to pick a CPU without a GPU over a CPU with a GPU, when the GPU can be used to set up the system before dropping in a strong videocard (especially if going to be doing a basic Linux Host and then GPU Passthrough to a Windows VM as I'm planning on doing for next system). And it's currently not worth dropping an extra $260 AUD for a 5900X ($809 AUD) over the 5700G, just for a 6% boost in speed and scores from an extra 4-cores/8-threads. And dropping an addition $610 AUD for a 5950X ($1159 AUD) over the 5700G for the same 6% boost in speed and scores? Unless I can find a board that can handle a pair of GPU's without them choking the other of air or needing waterblocks to bring the cards back down to the 2-slot spacing of the card's brackets, just so can run a moderate GPU under Linux as bare metal and a stronk GPU with Passthrough to a Windows VM... yeah, no. Not worth the hassle and extra costs of the extra 4-8 cores if I can't use them in a more budget-friendly build on low limited income.

[@Anlushac11]

I gotta tell you, I still have a A10-6800K black edition with 16gb of DDR3-3200 and except for the obsolete 8600 series graphics it rocks pretty well with a RX560. I retired it in 2015 but just put it in a system for a friend with the A10-6800K, 16gb ddr3-3200, RX 560, 512gb Intel SATA drive and it plays all his games just fine, replacing his 10 year old I5-2400, 8gb, gtx530, 5400rpm sata drive. IMHO the A10-6800K still holds up well against my Ryzen 3200G.

[@oblivionlord1242]

No such thing as 3200mhz ddr3 LOL

[@MrMcGreed]

This is extremely interesting - commenting before watching the full video - but SO EXCITED to see what they can do! :D

[@hyperkid21]

Hopefully the next chips would have rdna instead of vega

[@davidowennalday5793]

Ngl, my 3400G is still slayin at 2024 I play valorant tournament in our college esports fest and with no dedicated gpu, my apu is pushin my fps to 190 fps, just pair it with a high frequency ram and your good to go. What a beast.

[@Dan-Simms]

I would love to make a 5300g for my dad's first ever computer, but will most likely get a 5600g. He won't ever need a real GPU. Bet the 5600 would last him the rest of his life.

[@shaynecarter-murray3127]

Put a 2200g in my tight budget build a couple years back. Added an rx580, did me just fine. Got a sweetheart deal on an rtx 2070 last year when a buddy upgraded to the 30 series. Just swapped the 2200g for a 5600x. How do I feel about ryzen G chips? That little 2200g is holding a friend over til he can swing a 5600. Then it will come back to me and be used in a steampunk suitcase pc build.

[@letto18]

What would be the most powerful APU before the Ryzen APUs? Maybe that could be added, something like the A12-9800 to stick with AM4?

[@AdHdEntertainmentLLC]

Welcome to Pa. Im from Philadelphia. Hope all is well and keep making that content. I am currently building a budget homelab server on a Ryzen 5 3600.

[@bojkovszkyzsolt2280]

Nice roundup! Keep it up!

[@LegionGamingTV]

Love your channel bro!!

[@toxicavenger6172]

I wouldn't buy any one of these considering zen 4 is expected to have rdna 2 built into all of that lineup.

[@Petethecoolguy]

You also have to get DDR4 ram which will be pretty pricey when it just come out

[@nicholasrozwalka2768]

@@Petethecoolguy ddr4 ram isn't pricey though? You can get 8x2 gb of 3000mhz for like 70$.

[@publicguy1664]

They made APUs before Ryzen, they were the "A" series. I built an A10 around 2015 and was quite surprised at the performance.

[@fedepede04]

i also had a a10 7850 for many years only used the build in graphic for a short time. i also had a a8 5500 with a dedicated graphic card. I was pretty happy with the combo back then 😃

[@misterPAINMAKER]

Great video! 👌

[@akirafan28]

My local PC hardware store only list the Zen 3 APUs as available from their supliers. The older Zen APUs are listed as might be in stock at their supliers later this year, but I doubt it. The 5600G seems to be priced $110 more expensive than the 3400G in my country.

[@Spyd77]

Something really important about the Ryzen 2xxxG is that being a Ryzen 1000 series, is *not* compatible with Windows 11 (at least right now), so not recommended to buy for a new machine, unless you're a Windows 10 die hard and don't want to upgrade, or if you're a Linux user.

[@bes12000]

If im gonna go an APU im going to get a Ryzen 7 5700G it's literally nearly the same speed as my 5800x on benchmarks, my only real gripe with the 5700G is that it's PCI Express 3.0, which is honestly probably why it slightly loses to a 5800X and why AMD kept it at PCI Express 3

[@fedepede04]

it lose to the 5800x because of the difference in cache sizes

[@hunterfabio]

You're forgetting about the 200ge and the 3000g, the stars of the apu show imo :D

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Curious why you don't include the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 6-Core 12-Thread Desktop Processor with Radeon Graphics - AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor with Radeon Graphics in this review as well?

[@Cristian_Sile]

do you know something about ryzen 3 5100?

[@HuntaKiller91]

Thx for this a b450m mortar max and 2400G is goin for $99 in my country Might get this as stopgap before buying ryzen7000/8000G or even arrowlake nxtyear Not gonna do highend gaming anyways Had enough with space hogging atx pc

[@ansonvattakunnel5297]

Can you use a gpu with these cpus? Cause I remember that the 3200g didn't have enough express lanes or something (yes I know it's not the same chips but I was just wondering)

[@Bouchi77]

Yes you can, got a 3200g and a gtx 970 everything runs ok

[@akirafan28]

I am pretty sure they can run a dGPU. It is just that the Zen & Zen+ APUs won't utilize more than 8 express lanes of PCIe x16 slot. Which might be limiting the process power of a GPU. According to Wikipedia, both the Zen 2/3 APUs utilize all the express lanes of PCIe x16 slot. It has to be mentioned that these numbers are related to PCIe 3.0.

[@austinrecker141]

Still rockin my 2400g.

[@TomasGaleano]

Same here!

[@endersjehuty7721]

What gains?! You can't Even notice the difference between 40 and 51 FPS!!! This is just and plain stagnation.

[@endersjehuty7721]

@@norton9216dude.... I had a ryzen 2200g, i used Riva tuner to look My FPS while gaming, i now use a ryzen 3400g and i feel NO significative difference between my FPS now and then and i have up to 10 more FPS, YOU SHOULD STOP BEING IGNORANT.

[@Gortok1]

Agreed. I think amd are pulling an Intel...holding back. Just waiting for next gen, hopefully on AM4.

[@endersjehuty7721]

@@Gortok1 Yep, don't think companies are your Friends,AMD did what they had to do to sell their processors now that they have the lead the milking starts, i'm rooting for Intel now... Go team blue... For now.

[@endersjehuty7721]

@@117gerardle ddr4 does not limit the number of gpu cores.

[@benotsilent6703]

I just checked the prices, they're still within $30 of what you said they were years ago now.

[@isrbillmeyer]

Development of the PS5, XBox AMD APU's must have given them a big advantage in the market.

[@michaelrobinson8827]

Could this be related to yield?

[@cosmicusstardust3300]

I mean AMD did release the Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 7 5700GE their first 8 core 16 thread desktop APUs ealier this year along with the Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 5 5600GE being their 6 core 12 thread lower end APUs and they aren't OEM only.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

2400g/3400g are the only one with vega 11 tho

[@JayzBeerz]

yep and they are the best APU for gaming.

[@afre3398]

Regarding why AMD do not sell 5300G to the consumer. I think they do not have enough supply to sell to the consumer. As those chips are dies that could not be used as 5700G or 5600G. But that said the 5300G has it niche. No doubt about that. It is not bad chip in its segment

[@andrewalexander9508]

It's pretty basic each one of these dies sells for more as a laptop die. Last thing they want to do is offer this to the market and build a demand that they have supply with chips that could sell for more as a laptop chip.

[@samicodie]

Maybe amd ryzen community wants to sell them directly because they know that if they sell the chips to cosumers, they'll sell these things higher than it cost's, maybe there's a relation ship between them and a selling market that is more official, it can be because of people as well!

[@afre3398]

Kind of a stupid question UFD Tech. But did you live in Australia before? I do not watch your channel regularly. But I have visited from time to time. You are not bad as tech reviewer. But I do not have time to watch all youtube tech content

[@kirolosmakram881]

What about ryzen 5 4650g pro?

[@giorx5]

OEM ask for APUs more than anything else now with the discrete GPUs so expensive.

[@shawnmacfarland3828]

From the last leaked AMD roadmap looks like Rembrandt in 2022H1 is the fist non-Steam Deck to get RDNA2 CUs. Rembrandt seems to be targeted to laptop H-model, ultra book U-model TDP envelopes. AMD is going to have to compete with Alder Lake in 2022 which could have good Arc CUs onboard. By end of 2022H2 when both Zen 4 and RDNA 3 are due likely at 5nm and Raptor Lake from Intel soon after. Basically AMD APU options likely from 2022H2 forever forward, possible majorly on AM5.

[@kitnoman]

In my opinion, AMD lowering the gpu cores while still getting better gaming performance actually means that they could have put in more cores and possibly double the performance. But who would want to compete with there own dedicated gpu right.

[@brycecohoon]

Video subject: AMD Sponsor subject: Intel Love ya Brett just pointing it out

[@cracklingice]

IMO it's supply of the partially defective silicon. There simply isn't enough supply to meet the full market demand so just like Nvidia selling every capable 3090 as a 3090 without the normal cut down of working dies simply to move volume, AMD isn't cutting down working dies to move volume of CPUs.

[@n1zgan1zga44]

I'm real real real cheap and I mostly do ham radio and I run a pair of Xeon X5650 you can put up for under $20.00 USD and have 12 core 24 thread at 2.66Ghz and all core Turbo to 3.01Ghz and Hyper threading ya it has no APU but with a Cheap GPU but this system is not for Gaming it's for running all my Ham Radios and Software and it's Cheap so I can Spend more on Ham Radio like My Icoms ic-7300 and ic-9700 and ic-705 and Remote into them and Run all my 8 SDR Rx Radios and I Remote into them with a Cheap Chuwi Hi10x Windows Tablet but I'm Looking at getting Something for Desktop to do Gaming with so this was Great thanks for the Great Video Keep them coming. But Still I'm waiting for the Price to come down on some of these Chips and systems before I go Dumping Tons of Cash

[@Chemy.]

i don't remember what exactly Jason said, but he talked about why it's so confusing with AMD

[@MigRx8]

i love the comparison..

[@wrusst]

I seen used 4650g the same price as the 3400g on ebay

[@inkysteve]

What does 720p FSR look like? It must be terrible.

[@UFDTech]

It is. It looks like anus.

[@frshunter]

Good job. Wish they would move from vega graphics or unleash them more if they must stay with them!

[@Azraleee]

Yields are likely too good. They would have to cut perfectly good 6-cores down to quadcores, which isn't worth it, if everything already sells at higher price points.

[@titan557]

AMD is just trying to get you so angry that your head turns RED, AMD Red!

[@efx245precor3]

What about the 5600g and 5700g

[@edbeagle7929]

Have a 2400g build never game on it but glad it could be a back up if mt 2060 super dies

[@jorgedr5835]

Pre 2021 = buyable, 2021 = not buyable

[@burningrose5616]

thank you

[@1966jcar]

Ram slot should be on back of motherboard

[@mikedragon3367]

you forgot the 5600g and 5700g but thank you for the info

[@Justin-ng4zg]

UFD quadcore roundup likePCPer did years ago

[@KrK-EST]

People buy the 3400g for the gpu cores and manually tune them

[@itsdeonlol]

The 5600G is a bit expensive right now...

[@MandoMTL]

These are all the new Klaus Schwab "have nots" will be able to afford in the coming years. Let's hope the Navi revamp gets us decent 1080p/30+ on mainstream titles.

[@gabe_ag]

I wish they made a 5950x with graphics

[@arky9002]

Imagine 11 vega cores running at 2.5-2.6 ghz on cezanne. It could easily game at 1080p!

[@ucup33]

The gaming experience will be limited to the ram speed

[@garievolutionsoccer3218]

no far ànd longer intel: far away long time no see any things:

[@pweddy1]

The 5300g is the same chip as the 5600g & 5800g. If yields are good AMD would rather sell the more expensive models. Plain and simple. Why selling the same die for $150 when you can make $350?

[@ascendordie7427]

ryzen out lasted my relationship. sheesh.

[@DecemberGalaxy0]

The lord himself sent amd to the rescue

[@shopenil1157]

Why does this video have so less views

[@mbvalency]

pretty high prices for these cpus

[@Maltduck100]

they are useing the wafers to make high end chips to get the most money they can

[@wongzikhong5915]

hi i know i might be 3 year late but that time i was young and know nothing about cpu but can i ask anybody can give a tips whether my a320m pro max can supoort (3400GE) or not because i cant tell whether it same with 3400g might cant even run i suppoose ? does it just plug and play ? my old cpu burn already lol PLESSSSSS HELP!!!!!!! i love u all DADDY MOMMY

[@jamesgray5741]

People sleep on Ryzen apu's. I was rocking a 3200g with 1 4g stick of ram on an a320m(before I got into building computers) playing WoW everything on high quality at 1080p. No studdering at all

[@s0nda]

i still sadly use the 3400g

[@samwallace7341]

Not far considering they still use vega.... 😂

[@el-3omda476]

Noice

[@meliktanabene1485]

i like this video

[@KAPILSHARMASEASON2]

You are 🤗🤗😘

[@Lukaso2700]

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