Ryzen 5 5600X vs. Ryzen 7 5800X vs. Ryzen 9 5900X & 5950X: GPU Scaling Benchmark

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Hardware Unboxed

Hardware Unboxed

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@Ashachi
@Ashachi 3 жыл бұрын
1700 benchmark runs!? How are you still sane?
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 3 жыл бұрын
Debatable if I am to be honest.
@atnfn
@atnfn 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he did 1700 benchmark runs in the first place proves he lost his sanity quite a while ago. But well that's good for the rest of us I suppose.
@dunuhn
@dunuhn 3 жыл бұрын
I had to back it up and replay that to make sure I heard it right lol
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 жыл бұрын
It is a rounding error when you do it long enough.
@MyrKnof
@MyrKnof 3 жыл бұрын
"Aliens" guy meme: Automation
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 3 жыл бұрын
Vaas:"did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?" Steve:"NO! Go away!I have 1700 benchmarks to do!"
@abhinandanmanna49
@abhinandanmanna49 3 жыл бұрын
Far cry 3 vibes
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 2 жыл бұрын
It's not insanity if it's useful
@kimnorberg9783
@kimnorberg9783 3 жыл бұрын
A clear, useful and systematic review.
@Mikka0
@Mikka0 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. This video is much appreciated.
@peki100
@peki100 3 жыл бұрын
More like a waste of time, looking at the results. :S
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 3 жыл бұрын
@@peki100 Doctor: "Mr. DarwiN good news, you don’t have cancer." DarwiN: "Well shit those tests were a waste of time then :S"
@MommyGanyu
@MommyGanyu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Did you just roast him LMFAO
@peki100
@peki100 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Extremely bad analogy.
@josuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu1780
@josuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu1780 3 жыл бұрын
Steve is probably the only guy who likes his mondays
@RuaninhoBR
@RuaninhoBR 3 жыл бұрын
probaly this video was recorded on saturday
@Grrblt
@Grrblt 3 жыл бұрын
It's already Wednesday over there in Australia
@michaelgooley229
@michaelgooley229 3 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot I did 😎
@Persian_Rug_Merchant
@Persian_Rug_Merchant 3 жыл бұрын
If you dont like mondays, you should try enjoying your job, or get one that you enjoy.
@d2ricci
@d2ricci 3 жыл бұрын
When a two-week work period ends on a Monday, you would as well
@OppositeToUp
@OppositeToUp 3 жыл бұрын
Although I didn't need this personally, I watched regardless bdcause I appreciate the huge amount of effort and time a video like this takes. And it's interesting to see anyway.
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you we appreciate that!
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Thanks for the hard work and it's videos like this that define Hardware Unboxed for me. Having upgraded to the 6800 XT back in December I'm going to stick with my 3700X. Even though it's not on the list it's a bit slower than the 5600x and for me it's not worth spending hundreds of dollars more for a CPU and an upgrade to an x570 or B550 from the msi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC I currently own.
@sorinsuba
@sorinsuba 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Great video! What camera do you use?
@edward3709
@edward3709 3 жыл бұрын
@@TerraWare definitely not, you made a wise choice. As future games start using 8 cores, the 5600X may be outdated earlier than the 3700X
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын
@@ok-70707 My comment was 11 months old before you could do that. I ended up upgrading to the B550 5900X about 6 months ago though lol. I used my B450/3700X and an RX 580 I had to build a pc for my little brother.
@Granatenei
@Granatenei 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward to this video. This must have been quite time consuming. Thanks for that HUB!
@karlhungus545
@karlhungus545 3 жыл бұрын
These are the most useful CPU-related videos on the internet. I still go back to your 2600/3600 scaling review from a while back from time to time, usually when somebody is arguing that you 'need' an expensive CPU for gaming 😉. These always clearly show just how much money some gamers waste on CPUs.
@TheKiwiCoder
@TheKiwiCoder 3 жыл бұрын
This is an insane amount of configurations to test. Thank you for your time!
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep 3 жыл бұрын
The new editorial direction is just beautiful.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike YOUR PC building skills. 😂😂😂 (Yes, I know you're a parody account.)
@martymcfly88mph35
@martymcfly88mph35 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt see any RTX benchmarks... the complete madlads cant keep getting away with it
@morpheus_9
@morpheus_9 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@doccdisrepecc7307
@doccdisrepecc7307 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. *golf clap ensues*
@felipemotorhead
@felipemotorhead 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm speechless, please never stop and PLEASE stay safe, a whole community needs you!
@hermanlau4431
@hermanlau4431 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the comparison between all the different generations of Zen.
@G254-x8g
@G254-x8g 3 жыл бұрын
Curious to see also the difference between zen 3 and fx series xD
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 3 жыл бұрын
FX 6350 / 1600X / 3600 XT / 5600X
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 3 жыл бұрын
@@G254-x8g It's like a destruction bigger than Sandy Bridge or Haswell vs FX.
@It-b-Blair
@It-b-Blair 3 жыл бұрын
This needs 1mil views for such an epic feat! Efing amazing m8
@OviWanKeno9i
@OviWanKeno9i 3 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing that my 2700x is still doing well for gaming. I did love the extra cores and once I water cooled it, with 6 push pull fans, it boosts so much higher.. 4.2 easy, shows 4.8 GHz on some cores for a moment when it needs it (mostly in games with mods)
@tomasnovotny5438
@tomasnovotny5438 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, 4.8 GHZ on Zen+ xdd
@crylune
@crylune 2 жыл бұрын
lmao doubt you're getting 4.8
@quentinrusso8413
@quentinrusso8413 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see how some older 4cores 4 threads aged with this kind of review. It's in my opinion, the best way to know "when to upgrade" and "what to"
@DerMoos
@DerMoos 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Or at least 1-2 CPUs from Ryzen 3000 series for people contemplating if they are still fine if they would buy for example a 3600 now
@Cozi010
@Cozi010 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah currently running a 6600k @ 4.9 lol. Assume im at the point if I upgrade GPU to current gen or last gen I will be bottlenecked
@FzNd
@FzNd 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm using a 5 year old system with an i7 6700 and so far it feels like the CPU is doing just fine, even in relatively recent games. My problem is my ye olde 970, but the CPU appears to be still holding up quite well. However, I have of course no data to back this up, so it would be interesting to see some testing indeed.
@karlhungus545
@karlhungus545 3 жыл бұрын
​@@DerMoos HW Unboxed already did a scaling video on this comparing the 3600 to the 5600x (which I have). TL;DR, the 5600x gives you zero benefit over the 3600 at 1440p and higher.
@wizardryyyy
@wizardryyyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cozi010 my 6600k at 4.5 is bottlenecking my 2060S a fair bit.
@Mediamatix
@Mediamatix 3 жыл бұрын
This "boring test" had me subscribe. This are the infos I like to see. :)
@iBoolGuy
@iBoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of KZbin tech right atcha fingertips ladies and lads! Thank you sir Steve so much for ya hard work, we all appreciate it! 🥰🤗 Lemme now get my appetizers and get to watching!
@ani0.biswas
@ani0.biswas 3 жыл бұрын
I think you've earned yourself a fishing holiday.
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 3 жыл бұрын
I'll let my wife know, cheers 👍
@william_SMMA
@william_SMMA 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going back to watch this on the regular youtube app just so I can watch the ads and support this channel
@ani0.biswas
@ani0.biswas 3 жыл бұрын
@@william_SMMA that depends whether they get the revenue or its just google snatching it. the terms and conditions are shady to be least.
@william_SMMA
@william_SMMA 3 жыл бұрын
@@ani0.biswas nah They get the revenue About 50% goes to google and the rest to the channel No one is stealing your money on this platform
@Itz_JayM
@Itz_JayM 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see this kind of comparison. I don’t do any work load on my pc so this helps me save some money on my new build seeing there isn’t much of a gaming performance difference. I’ll just get a 5600x to pair with my 3080 instead of the 5800x.
@PwopYT3811
@PwopYT3811 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 Me (5600x owner): So that's why I suck at this game. I don't have 519FPS, just 518FPS. Time for new CPU!
@kevinamery5922
@kevinamery5922 3 жыл бұрын
518 fps = slideshow...
@EliteMonkeyzz
@EliteMonkeyzz 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinamery5922 😂 lmaooo
@jerome6383
@jerome6383 3 жыл бұрын
And it would only costs you an additional $519 I guess :)
@jerome6383
@jerome6383 3 жыл бұрын
@ADITYADIVINE As far as his 5600x is not broken: I think this is either caused by another hardware bottleneck (like ram, motherboard, power supply) or by overloading his cpu. 6 fast cores should be plenty for modern games - when only playing games. If you were doing something else while playing, like streaming, updating, etc. It would lower the framerate for a few games. If you have to buy a new motherboard anyway, a 10700k (or 10700) is the better choice - I believe. About the same price or cheaper. About the same gaming performance and better in multitasking.
@kevinamery5922
@kevinamery5922 3 жыл бұрын
@ADITYADIVINE Uh, did you watch the video? Because it answers exactly that question...
@soumyajitdeb3943
@soumyajitdeb3943 3 жыл бұрын
Would love these scaling graphs with the 6800 series cards too.
@davepianist84
@davepianist84 3 жыл бұрын
I think the results would be pretty much the same
@aidrik9879
@aidrik9879 3 жыл бұрын
yea but the 3090 and 3070 are pretty much equals to the 6900xt and 6800, so i don’t think another 500 some runs are needed for virtually the same results in exchange for steve’s sanity
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 3 жыл бұрын
While it would be nice to add the 6800 series, it probably wouldn't add much value to the testing.
@gamingunboxed5130
@gamingunboxed5130 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobyjoe8045 IQ not strong with this one.
@gamingunboxed5130
@gamingunboxed5130 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobyjoe8045 Well you failed, maybe be a little more realistic with your goals next time, might I suggest the Banana slug ;)
@AshStorm09
@AshStorm09 3 жыл бұрын
This was amazingly informative. Thank you so much.
@Narfu1
@Narfu1 3 жыл бұрын
Building a *Ryzen 5 5600x & RTX 3070* build later this year. Looks like my decision hasn't changed, and I'm very excited to build it! Thanks for doing this, and for staying sane with 1700 benchmark runs... how do you do it.
@dexyydev
@dexyydev 8 ай бұрын
same but with 7900 gre
@dexyydev
@dexyydev 8 ай бұрын
still kinda relevant after 3yrs lmaoo
@Narfu1
@Narfu1 8 ай бұрын
@@dexyydev the pc has been amazing lol, deffo worth it 😂
@tatonoot1950
@tatonoot1950 3 жыл бұрын
The perfectly aligned numbers of the Cyberpunk benchmark feels, unreal
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
That just spells "Puny little 3090 can't even graphics!"
@johnwynne413
@johnwynne413 6 ай бұрын
This was absolutely useful information and I commend you for taking the time to do this. More people should do extensive multi dimensional comparison tests like this between more products like this
@L0rd_0f_War
@L0rd_0f_War 3 жыл бұрын
Scaling benchmarks are the most useful and practical way of viewing the data. Thank you Steve for amazing work.
@gregvanpaassen
@gregvanpaassen 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Steve! You're the only person to do benchmarking systematically. I look forward to the forthcoming testing and comparisons.
@HeadphoneHangover
@HeadphoneHangover 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, it must have really taken a long time to do all this, we really appreciate the work put into this video. Great work.
@clarencewong9254
@clarencewong9254 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of work put in must have been back breaking. Thanks man.
@Sinr0ne
@Sinr0ne 3 жыл бұрын
1700 ? Cant possibly imagine the feeling after being ready with all that...
@Zunidrap
@Zunidrap 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, thanks. Glad I made the right choice getting the 5600x over the 5900x.
@beanos2287
@beanos2287 3 жыл бұрын
Yah, not worth hundreds of dollars more, and if you need a good cpu for say a job, then at that point you might as well purchase a 5950x
@pokoyoko4486
@pokoyoko4486 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I guess I'll get 5600x
@amunderdog
@amunderdog 3 жыл бұрын
I made the same choice. Waiting for it to arrive and hunting a 3090 to attach. Thank you Steve and Hardware Unboxed for clarifying this decision.
@Zunidrap
@Zunidrap 3 жыл бұрын
No brainer, I guess. You save on the cpu, energy bill and cooling requirements for the same gaming performance.
@Luis-jm2cc
@Luis-jm2cc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zunidrap at best u would need the 5800x anyway unless ur doing other things than gaming tbh but with a 5600x u can always turn down settings that arent that relevant if u need to anyway like grass or something. It would just be better to use that extra money on getting better ram or cooling a gpu etc.
@BT4282
@BT4282 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good set of data. However if I was to make one observation it would be that adding some strategy games which have high CPU requirements would be useful. CIV 6, Total War 3 Kingdoms, and possibly Stellaris would be good additions, both to measure FPS but also turn times/game slowdown in large scenarios or late game periods. Stellaris especially can be set up via console commands to simulate a late game scenario with thousands of fleets and pops which can really hammer the CPU. At which point you can set it to observer and leave it for a set period of time to see how many in-game years pass and from that judge the performance. Not as controlled as a standardised benchmark, but running it a few times would provide decent data points.
@teh_blazerer
@teh_blazerer 3 жыл бұрын
Competitive titles at 1080p Low Settings is EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Thank you so much!!
@harrylesueur
@harrylesueur 3 жыл бұрын
love this content, it is by far the most applicable set of benchmarks for anyone building a new pc. Is adding a r5 3600 and r3 3300x to the graphs in your crystal ball?
@karlhungus545
@karlhungus545 3 жыл бұрын
He did it already, comparing the 3600 to the 5600x. Check the videos.
@harrylesueur
@harrylesueur 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlhungus545 tbh, I actually forgot about that one, but it was only with an rx 6800. The 3300x is what I'm really interested in though.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrylesueur The 3300X will "do fine" in general, but it will get a bit hampered with titles like Assassins Creed and Hitman. But again, the higher resolution you target, the less the CPU matters. You can safely substitute the RX6800 for the 3070 in your mind. They're close enough in performance that their relative CPU scaling is the same.
@botherednickel5930
@botherednickel5930 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing I took from this video is how amazing Internal Clock Rate has been raised in a few years where a $300 cpu will get almost identical fps as a $800 cpu. Budget gaming is going to be amazing when the supply issues get figured out!
@inspirer4763
@inspirer4763 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh, $300 is not a budget option. Or at least it wasn't say 10 years ago. We're paying for that smaller gap.
@RedBellySnake
@RedBellySnake 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very happy with my 5800x and 3070.
@myramoki
@myramoki 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison of the different models in gaming. Far more useful than simple CPU vs CPU comparison charts. Really helps to prioritize where to spend money if gaming is thing your after (which I am). Also really love the bookmarks throughout the video, was able to jump to specific segments so easily. Very much helped me think things through better about what to do for future machine planning on getting.
@KillScottKill
@KillScottKill 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more testing with Zen 2 comparisons. The 3000 series is still super relevant due to how many of us bought in already and people turning to the 3000 chips because 5000 stock has been so bad for months.
@zx14jeff
@zx14jeff 3 жыл бұрын
This is very informative! I do a lot of builds for my clients! Thanks for the hard work.
@lefteris19
@lefteris19 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding work Steve! you're the best and most dedicated tech youtuber
@alavizaman8917
@alavizaman8917 3 жыл бұрын
i've been waiting for this! excited to see the same comparison with their previous gen counterparts
@pumpe19
@pumpe19 3 жыл бұрын
Clean, fact based, comprehensive, useful af! Many thanks.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is Hardware Unboxed for you. All of the above + the all important thing called Context! I don't know how many I've seen argue over which CPU+GPU combination to get... and they always end up over-spending on the CPU... To the point that they could've gone an entire class of GPU bigger on the same budget.
@justincowans2677
@justincowans2677 Жыл бұрын
These are the videos I love. Gives you all the info you need. Thanks for including the 1440 and 4k info.
@davidkjellsson9081
@davidkjellsson9081 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the hard work you do, I learn a lot about tech stuff thanks to you!
@lord.frosty
@lord.frosty 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Can't wait for the next parts of the GPU Scaling series!
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting and hugely important comparison video for gamers looking to build or update their system to know how their budget should be distributed. Thank you for all your hard work once again Steve!
@innocentiuslacrim2290
@innocentiuslacrim2290 3 жыл бұрын
Content like this is exactly what is needed to get a true knowledge on when to upgrade and what. All those 3090+lowRes+lowGraphicsQuality tests have created an illusion that cpu upgrades are needed when in fact they may not generate any benefits. Once this is expanded to more CPUs we will have real solid ground to stand for these kinds of purchasing decisions.
@BWpepperr
@BWpepperr 3 жыл бұрын
Comment for the Yootubes algorithm! Great work, Steve. Thanks for all the time and effort
@un1c0rn23
@un1c0rn23 3 жыл бұрын
awesome, these benchmarks from the beginning give me great confidence in my 7700k :) thanks a lot for including older CPUs in there
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job as always.
@prague5419
@prague5419 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent testing! This answered a multitude of questions in a single video. Very much looking forward to your future comparisons using this data-structure.
@Pandaoniman
@Pandaoniman 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such a comprehensive video. If I do choose to upgrade in the next year, I'll probably only bother with a 5600x. It would seem that it could be a significant improvement over my 3600.
@JIMN26
@JIMN26 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, 3600 has the same number of cores, threads, and cache as he 5600x. Very little improvement there.
@ayovenom9906
@ayovenom9906 Жыл бұрын
@@JIMN26you are insane. It’s a way better cpu
@DannyzReviews
@DannyzReviews 3 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for the informative testing Steve. Looking forward to other data from more CPUs.
@rhysiamt
@rhysiamt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content Steve! Really looking forward to seeing comparisons with Intel and older Zen-erations in upcoming videos.
@akiraetipola5444
@akiraetipola5444 3 жыл бұрын
A really solid review. Kudos!
@DJSammy69.
@DJSammy69. 3 жыл бұрын
Zen 3 is just amazing!!
@lefourbe5596
@lefourbe5596 3 жыл бұрын
big * !!! 170€ for the I5 10400F (6c12t) vs 380€ for the 5600X (6c12t) in France... I don't know the price anywhere else but we should step back a bit and reconsider after the hype of the best gaming processor. this make only a difference at 1080p by 10%. 3% at 1440p as stated 1 month earlier by Hardware Unboxed. as of now i don't find these prices fair. Yeah there is more PCIe (and support gen 4) lanes, it's capable of OC and can enable ECC memory. but don't forget intel have thunderbolt and optane (AMD storeMI isn't as good) ! Zen is amazing thx to MCM sure but for 4 to 8 cores it's not great sadly :/. Intel is way more attractive.
@bygonebebygones8503
@bygonebebygones8503 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, I really really appreciate the time you (and your team) put into making this video !!
@arjunyg4655
@arjunyg4655 3 жыл бұрын
I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS!
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
CPU vs GPU scaling videos is the most important metric, and has been for quite some time, as it is THE most confusing part to a lot of gamers. They see the CPU benchmarks and think that a 10900k will make their 2070 Super 15% faster across the board :-/
@arjunyg4655
@arjunyg4655 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I really would liked to have seen the 3080 and 6800XT on here, vs the 5600/5700XTs which pretty much were always GPU bound above 1080 low. I’m trying to put together a 1440 or 4k setup, but no one tests high end GPUs with cheaper CPUs at good graphics settings, so it’s hard to judge. This series is a huge step in the right direction.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
@@arjunyg4655 But the 3090 covers them both well enough. The difference between the 3090 and 3080 are only about 11% on average, so that won't change scaling much.The 6800XT is as fast as the 3090 at 1080p, about on par with the 3080 at 1440p and only a few percent slower at 4K, so again, the 3090 is perfectly fine as a comparison point for scaling. As you saw, graphics heavy games become almost entirely GPU bound at 1440p across the board. E-sports titles start seeing GPU bottlenecks at 1440p for the lover end GPU, but for any of the 3070 and up you're still pegging the CPU. At 4K it's mostly game over for anyone and you need a bigger CPU no matter what you have :P
@arjunyg4655
@arjunyg4655 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersjjensen I think you got that backwards. 4K is where you *don’t* need a more expensive CPU. Also no the 3080/6800XT doesn’t really match the 3090 in most games. And since the 3090 is the only one that scaled with better CPUs in a lot of the tests, it’s not sufficient to say “well the 3080 is close enough.” The 3080 could well behave like a 3070 where I could probably put a last gen CPU in with it and get max performance out of it. The 3080 might scale with a 5600X and a 5800X but not with a 5900/5950X, etc.
@djmehighlow
@djmehighlow 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve, thank you for putting this together.
@joeykido1450
@joeykido1450 3 жыл бұрын
A more in depth testing on Professional application like Davinci Resolve(Studio) performance or all in all workstation appliances would be super interesting. Your precice testing would super helpfull!
@BlissBatch
@BlissBatch 3 жыл бұрын
**Steve:** I've finished 1,700 benchmarks. **Joey:** Have you considered a more _in-depth_ testing?
@joeykido1450
@joeykido1450 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlissBatch just in general😅 not asap
@MrSmitheroons
@MrSmitheroons 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great type of benchmarking to see being done. Thanks very much for getting into it, as most don't/can't/won't buy the top-end flagship GPU. This must take just about forever to do. I think for this particular set of benchmarks, it's apparent that the processors are all more than enough for gaming. I don't think Zen 3 is inherently that powerful that it's a full-on revolution over Zen 2. (It is significantly better, which is nice, but not _that_ much better that it inherently runs all games 100%). Rather, the Zen 3 line simply has no low-end or even mid-tier parts at the moment. It only has high-end to extreme/enthusiast-tier parts. So ultimately, with Zen 3 being exclusively premium parts right now, you get lots of headroom for the CPU, at most settings, and mostly just GPU bottlenecks in games. As soon as we get lower-end or mid-tier Zen 3, I expect there would be a different look to the charts where those are included.
@melvoid01
@melvoid01 3 жыл бұрын
So should I buy a Ryzen CPU : "Yes, Yes you should" Which one do you recommend? : "Yes"
@thedalailmao
@thedalailmao 2 жыл бұрын
@hardwareunboxed, would you revisit this for the 5800X3D, 12700K vs something like an 8700K? Thanks for all the work you're doing.
@JonathanSias
@JonathanSias 3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome back to Hardware Benchmarks!"
@damajinvegeta
@damajinvegeta 3 жыл бұрын
Great detail. Excited for the other comparisons
@agustincorvalan5722
@agustincorvalan5722 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I bought the 5600x. I have 0 regrets after watching these benchmarks. I saved so much money... Thanks Hardware Unboxed! Love the channel!
@Devilman666
@Devilman666 3 жыл бұрын
I posted my rig on reddit a few weeks ago and some users made fun of me cause I had a 5600x paired with a 6900xt. I facepalmed so hard lol.
@josepedroteixeira9721
@josepedroteixeira9721 2 жыл бұрын
@@Devilman666 Same rig as me! I usually sell parts and pcs a lot and since I tried the 5600X, I've yet to use another CPU. I'm on my third right now! Since I watercool the PCs on ITX cases, usually the gain from running with a CPU with lower TDP allows me to run cooler and more silent or gaining some overclocking headroom for the RX 6900XT :)
@f3rns
@f3rns 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve, can't wait to see this same benchmarks whe intels releses it's new cpu lineup in September. Thank you
@balex96
@balex96 3 жыл бұрын
I can't begin to imagine of what you go through to provide this fantastic content for us. 1700 benchmark runs is insane. Seriously, thank you very much for your hard work.
@meersffej1
@meersffej1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciate mate.
@UnisoleBunker
@UnisoleBunker 3 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a 5800x over the 5600x soley because it was only £30 more expensive as I got a good deal
@minamikhail6636
@minamikhail6636 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic data! Thank you for the useful info and great content.
@T.K.9
@T.K.9 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I feel like I wanna get a 5800x or 5900x. I watch this and then I am happy with my 2nd hand 5600x 😅
@stancex404
@stancex404 2 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. I hope you continue this series for future releases as well.
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc 3 жыл бұрын
5600x is an absolute beast.
@shredman59
@shredman59 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Thanks for all the work. Can't wait to buy a new video card when able.
@_unseenhunter_5093
@_unseenhunter_5093 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, we should not be getting this content for free. The absolute amount of work you put in is outstanding and you deserve heaps more of subs and views for what effort you put in.
@VascovanZeller
@VascovanZeller 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can pay what you think it's worth over on patreon.
@MikaelKKarlsson
@MikaelKKarlsson 3 жыл бұрын
That's basically why I dipped into Patreon. Even now that I'm not really looking to upgrade my own system it feels well worth at least one dolla dolla bill.
@znici6871
@znici6871 3 жыл бұрын
Heh! I guess you're one of those who say similar things when GPU and CPU companies increase their prices, too.
@_unseenhunter_5093
@_unseenhunter_5093 3 жыл бұрын
@@znici6871 What? I'm saying this because Steve has worked his ass off to make 1700 benchmarks and he deserves much more of a return on his efforts.
@Għøśtøfthëføx
@Għøśtøfthëføx 3 жыл бұрын
Great work Steve! Still gonna buy an overkill 5900x or 5950x tho. I like the headroom 😁
@clifflenoir4323
@clifflenoir4323 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. Makes me slightly less worried about optimising my CPU clocks since it won't make much difference to performance. I am temped to rather undervolt for less heat and fan noise. Any chance of adding Flight Simulator 2020 to the next version of this roundup as it seems very CPU limited
@ryanw.9828
@ryanw.9828 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work - kind of like watching an animated movie, all that work gets summarized and we should remember that the elapsed time of the video is a vastly smaller amount than the work you did for this. These will be super helpful going forward!
@arrowdynamlc
@arrowdynamlc 3 жыл бұрын
as someone with a 5800x and 3070, this is perfect.
@forgot46
@forgot46 2 жыл бұрын
My go to youtube channel for gaming benchmark of cpu and gpu. Very good video and helpful. Hail hardware unboxed.👍
@suber36g
@suber36g 3 жыл бұрын
6:27 yes
@Bonkers1980
@Bonkers1980 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking your time to make this.
@traiantrante4211
@traiantrante4211 3 жыл бұрын
This put my mind to rest for picking 5600x over an 5900x
@RedOneM
@RedOneM 3 жыл бұрын
If gaming is all your pc needs to do then great!
@f-22raptor25
@f-22raptor25 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedOneM should I get a 10600k it's like $110 less than 5600x
@RedOneM
@RedOneM 3 жыл бұрын
@@f-22raptor25 Depends on the GPU and resolution that you're aiming for.
@f-22raptor25
@f-22raptor25 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedOneM overall I was planning to get a 10600k with a 3060ti 1080p ultrawide, and then get a 11700k in like 1.5 years on sale just like the i5. That way it gives me the ability to upgrade to like a new generation or two of gpus
@RedOneM
@RedOneM 3 жыл бұрын
@@f-22raptor25 With the 3060Ti you shouldn't worry about missing out on performance (even at 1080p-Ultra settings) by not having a Zen3 CPU. Once you enter the 3080/6800XT territory then having at least a Zen3 level CPU is relevant, as this will effect the 1% and 0.1% lows somewhat noticeabley. Seems like a fine upgrade path, only thing to keep in mind is that in 1.5-2years we might already see DDR5 memory on the market, so perhaps a full platform upgrade is worth it, but time will tell about performance uplift.
@hasanhas00n1
@hasanhas00n1 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for creating such a massive benchmark test database
@TheAsmileXD
@TheAsmileXD 3 жыл бұрын
what I got from this is that you only need a 5600X and it's essentially worthless to get a better cpu unless you are planning to get an expensive RTX3090 as well (or you need it for application performance) but everything else is fine with a 5600X
@norm50517
@norm50517 3 жыл бұрын
And even with the 3090 the benefit is negligible considering how much more you have to pay for the high end gpu and cpu. So...
@hold_w1282
@hold_w1282 3 жыл бұрын
Really useful information. Helps make a more practical purchase. The info about the perfomance in competitive games answered questions I already had and more.
@boingkster
@boingkster 3 жыл бұрын
bUt i nEeD mOrE fRAmeS tO bE gOoD! - every CS:GO / Fortnite player ever.... ...with the exception of you, of course, Steve! Keep up the awesome content.
@AyuNeko
@AyuNeko 3 жыл бұрын
of course! 300fps with a 60hz monitor good
@allenqueen
@allenqueen 3 жыл бұрын
CSGO players' demands are more about 128tick servers than fps
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 3 жыл бұрын
@@AyuNeko it does give you better latency though, linus tested it
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
@@houssamalucad753 It does, but Linus also forgot to give a bit of context there: Good musicians hit notes/drums +/- 5ms. You have to be almost superhuman to notice anything less than that... and that's the problem here: half the cOmPeTiTiVe GaMeRs think they have reflexes like Marvel characters... Once your latency drops below 10% of your reaction time (which is around 400ms for seriously quick and juiced up people - but more like 700-800ms on average) the entire point becomes moot.... Measuring data is not enough. You have to be able to put that data into context for it to make sense.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersjjensen not sure about your point but the average person has a MUCH faster reflex than 400ms, that's nearly half a second!
@Eternalduoae
@Eternalduoae 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Steve. Nice to see these sorts of analyses
@rolandopietropaulomabulay3317
@rolandopietropaulomabulay3317 3 жыл бұрын
"Only 4% faster on 5900x vs the 5600x..." So 5600x it is...
@al3xian007
@al3xian007 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to upgrade from 5600x to 5900x on rtx3090 for 4k gaming, it would have cost me 400£ and as I see that would have been useless. Thank you for the info and for saving me money!
@sergijohnuy3560
@sergijohnuy3560 3 жыл бұрын
Hi steve, 3600x vs 5600x GPU scaling next, please? 🥺👉👈
@Cabezituh
@Cabezituh 3 жыл бұрын
Good data set! Thanks Steve !
@NomadBale
@NomadBale 3 жыл бұрын
Lol so for gaming you can go as lower as a 5600 zen 3, even for AAA titles, ah innovation
@TheUnkindness
@TheUnkindness 3 жыл бұрын
Massive work here again, thanks HU!
@SmackdownCH
@SmackdownCH 3 жыл бұрын
It's just cool that if you are going to play games on 1440p you really don't need to go higher as a 5600x!
@milossladic381
@milossladic381 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to go higher than 10400f for 1440p...
@SmackdownCH
@SmackdownCH 3 жыл бұрын
@@milossladic381 Yes, but if you are building a new gaming pc at this very moment you will be safe if you go with the 5600x.
@milossladic381
@milossladic381 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmackdownCH You will also be safe if you go with 10400f or 3600 for 1440p. Or wait 2 months to get the absolute beast 11400f.
@SmackdownCH
@SmackdownCH 3 жыл бұрын
@@milossladic381 well, you're right. I never was this aware of the fact, that you don't need a expensive cpu for gamimg above 1080p
@hgr3180
@hgr3180 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmackdownCH yes you do need an expensive cpu if you want your build to age like wine and not like milk.
@WTP_DAVE
@WTP_DAVE 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been loving my 5600x, great content steve
@AndrewH2791
@AndrewH2791 3 жыл бұрын
It is weird seeing every AMD cpu online says made in China when mine says made in Malaysia ^^
@pr0xZen
@pr0xZen 3 жыл бұрын
Curious indeed. It's not uncommon to have multiple assembly sites in different countries, Malaysia being a well known one. Might be most reviewer samples sent out were assembled in China? Dunno if ie. HodorUnboxed has any retail samples (yet). Or what assembly region would serve them, Malaysia is closer, but China not that much further off.
@Philovski
@Philovski 3 жыл бұрын
Can't say I've ever thought about this but my 5900x is made in China (UK retail purchase).
@AndrewH2791
@AndrewH2791 3 жыл бұрын
@@Philovski My CPU is a 5800x purchased from Scan UK in mid January so I guess it is just random what shipment any retailer gets or maybe the 5800x's are made in Malaysia and the 5600/5900x in China. I am sure it makes no difference I just like seeing things not made in China for reasons lol.
@Philovski
@Philovski 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewH2791 Scan hooked me up with my 3080, 5900X came from Overclockers.
@oopsydaisy4637
@oopsydaisy4637 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that took a lot of effort/time. Thanks for the helpful information and showing what's what with CPU's and GPU's!
@davepianist84
@davepianist84 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that was surely a huge benchmark maraton, thanks a lot, now I see that the 5600x is looking more appealing now
@JuanLopez-fk7nt
@JuanLopez-fk7nt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking your time I needed this video got a new subscriber
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