Ryzen 7600X3D Gaming PC Vs. Ryzen 7600 - Worth It?

[@ToastyBros]

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[@wandameadows5736]

Lose the cat ear headphones

[@themarcsman]

this’d be cool if the nearest micro center wasn’t all the way in a different country

[@Grimpinz]

Lucky for me it’s 30 minutes from where I live taking the tollway

[@papawithgaming]

yup none in my country of canada boooooo

[@Grimpinz]

@@papawithgaming what part of Canada

[@Mr_Ayider]

Indeed the UK is a barren area

[@thefan5864]

Images LIVE IN USA and needing a 9hr (581ml) drive

[@NowThatsPCGaming]

I just built my son a 4070 super rig for Xmas. My wife has a 7900gre. I really think those GPUs are the goats of this generation.

[@Perkuzz]

do i have a micro center near me? no am i gonna watch this video? yes

[@K1NG_BATMXN]

Whoever did that thermal paste is going straight to jail lol

[@davidrains6751]

no

[@davidsprague1601]

i got the same bundle for the 7600x3d and the 7900gre and im very happy with it

[@realandrisbiedrins]

i luv my 7600. bought for 150 and paired with a 4070 ti super at 4k - it has served me well

[@vishwanathbondugula4593]

I just built a PC last week with the Ryzen 5 7600X3D using their 400$ combo deal. It has been running smooth!

[@oooolah]

I got the 7800x3d from Micro Center a few months ago and built my PC around that. Love it!

[@Lurch-Bot]

I got a 5700X3D last month. Best $200 upgrade ever. Doesn't show much benefit in most esports titles but in a lot of AAA games, it provides a much smoother experience. X3D is also great for flight sims and sim racers because of all the heavy duty physics calculations; the massive amount of cache greatly reduces the amount of memory access necessary to process them. The awesome thing about X3D is that it benefits GPUs of every tier. I only have a 6600 but it makes a significant difference in a lot of games.

[@BREEZYM6015]

What GPU?

[@vishwanathbondugula4593]

@@BREEZYM6015 An RTX 3070ti

[@reeceniblett6994]

The 7600 X 3-D combo deal makes the 7600 X 3-D only cost $160

[@Conumdrum]

X3D is akin to Nvidia Ray Tracing, Its great to have with limited benefits

[@kolvv6328]

I’ve been waiting on some people to finally do something with the 7600x3d Thank you!!

[@justrelax10]

You labeled the 4070 Super as a 16 GB?

[@JamesTodd]

Love the video idea. Would love to see more CPU intesive games like Valorant, CS2 and siege.

[@anubhabperis4716]

I built my first pc recently with a 7600x and a B650 motherboard and the same ram in the video. Its running really good and I am satisfied with the performance.

[@JustinRampage]

So cool! That’s my Microcenter. Didn’t realize you dudes were so close. Dayton, OH here. Thanks for all of the awesome info.

[@QSxDaRkSCoPe]

Same here!

[@JustinRampage]

@@QSxDaRkSCoPe Nice! Small world! haha!

[@mozeheadscott412]

I’m rocking the 7600x with the 7700xt I’m loving it

[@ZipKroon]

The fact that the 7800x3d was almost down to 300$ like 4/5months ago is crazy😅

[@alanw737]

Thanks for doing reasonable builds. Not everyone has money for a 4090 and 9800x3d. Also, if Microcenter sees this.. Tampa, FL area please. I would even accept Orlando.

[@n8spL8]

Love my 5.5ghz 7600. the response time you are referring to is simply an indicator of FPS (1000ms/FPS = the response time you are seeing). CPU/GPU (system) response time would be measured by something like sysmon. Also, The higher score in timespy is primarily due to the CPU tests in this particular benchmark being won by the higher frequency of the 7600 (which could be even better as the 7600x3d won't OC). The utilization, or not, of cache has less to do w/ these results. Great RL usage comparison video Bros.

[@szqvcx]

yeah, if it wasn't exclusive to micro center, cause i live nowhere near it.

[@JundraGaming]

I just did my first pc build and "Almost" made the 2+ hour drive to Micro Center for the the 7600X3d bundle... I chose to just do the 7600X and paired it with the 7800 xt GPU and couldn't be happier.

[@brianclayton4216]

great to see the comparison as I'm going for 9 900x and have it's a great gaming CPU, but I'm not into the higher games that most people play.

[@williambodley477]

Y'all keep going to the Cincinnati micro center and i will see you guys one day. i work down the street and I'm there multiple times a week. I will meet yall one day there XD

[@Overdrivetim]

well for starters if u watch the normal 7600 is being used more between 58-76% while the x3d was being used at abt 58 or lower on cod if u guys actually want to benchmark a game fully on cpu side simply buy escape from tarkov its the most cpu/ram demanding game on pc

[@jmal]

Even though I'm within reasonable driving distance of a Micro Center (45 minutes), I'm happy with my 7600. It packs a reasonable amount of performance without breaking the bank, especially when paired with a 7900 GRE. Besides, the games I'm currently playing are mostly untouched single-player titles from my enormous Steam backlog, so I doubt I'd notice any significant performance uplift. For the latest AAA single player titles I want to play, I can use upscaling to compensate.

[@johnhudson7055]

I actually bought 2 7600X3D CPUs. I got the combo with one of them and not the other. I won’t be using the motherboard that came with it though as I got a mATX board for that build. The second 7600X3D is going in a mITX build to upgrade the PC in my semi.

[@mackenziekinz467]

x3d chips and steam decks are the future for truckers. Thanks for what you do.

[@NowThatsPCGaming]

The real test is using a 4090 to pair with either cpu and see who comes out on top. I love these type of videos yall do.

[@mhaden-k8z]

why would the real test be with a 4090 ? it's gonna be the same results between the two cpu "s just higher fps but still equal gain.

[@jeffreygrindle6396]

Man that's a great looking build

[@BenjiCrossley]

u should use cable extensions more in ur more expensive atheistic builds (great vid)

[@neilharbott8394]

I picked the 7600X3D bundle for my recent build - reasons: I have a 5.1 sound system, and the bundled M/B has support for that, plus $40 cheaper than swapping the 7600X3D for a 7600, retaining the rest of the bundled components.... at Microcenter bundling is definitely the way to go. I suppose I could have gone $60 cheaper by going with the 7600X bundle (no 7600 bundle right now though).

[@ryanpadilla7932]

I have the 7600 x3d and it goes. Love it!!

[@GrandmasterBBC]

Recently helped my son's friend build a 7600X and that thing kicks ass. If you can afford it then sure go to the 7600X3D. But even the 7600 could always be upgraded down the road to a 7800X3D or 9800X3D.

[@nickinderrieden7630]

You boys should change that RGB to a more Yellow Gold Orange to match that ProArt and make it more festive and seasonal. Give it a go. Beautiful build though. Agree with the 2tb upgrade. I forget who but some creator got a free NZXT 14900k 4090 64G and only a 1 TB m.2. Got roasted in the comments for his $4k custom pc with 1TB storage.

[@skullcandyUS]

This is the life! I wish I had a pc lol

[@NoA1mLoser6]

Just save for one...

[@marseanolord359]

0:53 boughta be me next year 😭

[@MrBeetsGaming]

Should just pick a demanding area in Star Wars Jedi Survivor and play at 1080p and see the difference

[@SC-kun]

If you'll ask me to buy a 7600X3D, I'd definitely want one however it ain't available in my place So instead, I bought a Ryzen 5 7600, paired with MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi, Kingston Fury Beast 32gb RAM, and 7800 XT I can't be happier tbh

[@CheapBikeOwner]

Wish I lived near a micro center 😢

[@charlesburris6314]

The closest store to me is over 200 miles away. I'm not making that trip. They don't ship most things. I will do business elsewhere. Sounds great for people who live close though.

[@mrshockwavetbtw]

Love the vids

[@SomeJustice19k]

Been searching for a video like this for months! Before watching: I'm not convinced the 3d is worth the extra money.

[@AJisosceles]

Can you test the RX 7900XT and the Ryzen 7 7700X together please. I'm thinking of going for them for my first PC. Thanks

[@drake5557]

Not them, but regardless, that combo is going to make a killer PC pepeman

[@jordangoodman77]

thats what i have and its pretty awesome

[@AlexHusTech]

*Awesome looking machine*

[@davidbeenjammin]

IMO esports titles comparisons are for those budget builds y’all do. For this really would’ve loved to see some AAA games to get a better sense of the difference.

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

HUB Steve is punching the air right now

[@jurpo6]

Either get a 7800x3d or save your money and put it towards a gpu. The 7600x is a beast.

[@Blaze4Mania]

Definitely get a better gpu the 7600x can handle like 99% of gpus without bottlenecking

[@muhamadnabil5616]

@@Blaze4Mania what is the possible 1% chance that will botteneck this GPU ? if there is any.

[@ivanlee6914]

@@muhamadnabil5616 rtx 7090

[@Anima_Draconis]

The Okinos Aqua 7 case is now over 100 USD on Amazon

[@floydlooney6837]

The price difference is crazy, they are nearly identical. The non X turbo's a little faster according to cpu benchmark website

[@GameslordXY]

Perhaps you should consider benchmarking more games. Like a dozen. 6 games each. Preferably not all competitive shooters. Action adventures,action rpgs,MMO games,Singleplayer shooters(or those with strong SP component),racing games etc. Some big huge open world, some not. Pick some most popular games,play them about halfway through making dozens of save games where possible and you will have A LOT of stuff to choose from when required. I mean you can preach about depending on what you play without really showing it. I am playing CP2077 and Dragon Age Veilguard without on screen fps on a PC . Fps and other data can be very distracting and don't contribute to the overall experience in a good way.

[@chrisleyleonlewisiii9644]

I didn't even know about this CPU and I'm only an hr away from a micro center I ended up going with the 7800x3d which was not cheap

[@tonymerasty]

i put together a ryzen 5 8400f with a rtx 4060 build no complaints so far

[@toddzino58]

I think if you’re building a new PC and have a MicroCenter, it’s worth it to future proof. If you already have a 7600, then, no. It’s good enough. I’m in Charlotte, NC. We just got a Microcenter. I haven’t even been yet……but soon.

[@NoobShiesty]

fire edit

[@victoresarey4036]

Im using a 7800x3d for 325 on ebay and its amazing...upgraded from the 7600 non x

[@augold1681]

With The Finals it sure looked like the 7600 was outperforming the 7600X3D. FPS are the use case I am interested in.... but to get a better understanding of their relative performance I think you would need to play each on multiple maps and then determine the average frame rate of each making sure any one map didn't skew the results. It is also my understanding that the 7600 can be overclocked more easily (due to thermal issues with the X3D chips, at lease with this and the previous generation) and the slight overclocking you can get may well offset the X3D cache boost in FPS.

[@J.Wick.]

7500F gang. Honestly these look just about the same. the x3d is a bit better, but im not sure by much other than the benchmarks. 20fps isn't nothing on Wukong.

[@Fenrirsleash]

I had the 7500f and upgraded to the 7600x3d paired with a 4080. It was a nice upgrade. I tested a couple games at 1440p like Valheim and got around 30fps more. I don't see as much bottle necking from the CPU anymore. Is it worth the money? I paid 125$ for the 7500f and it did everything well enough. I got the 7600x3d mainly because of the exclusivity.

[@lucaschenJC]

Am I high right now because my 5800x3d + 4070S pc runs higher fps then your pc lol? In cod nuketown I have average 180+ fps with the same graphics settings

[@troyamaral46]

The Temp was a little cooler on the 7600X3D

[@troyamaral46]

On 1440P

[@alankhan244]

👀Too close bro.

[@imBubbler]

Is 3D cache not mainly for when you’re running higher graphics? Sucks that most of these test were on games that are more GPU bound. Should’ve ran some CS or Valorant to really notice a difference.

[@andreas3666]

You could use the built in avg fps in Afterburner/Riva. It takes the guessing away.

[@buildyourcomputer]

Not a good price, since 7600x at microcenter is part of the $300 combo, making that part like $130. 7600x3d isn't 2x the performance. (since most people aren't buying am5 without a full build)

[@Moose_rs]

If you Purchase the same bundle toastyBros used in this video the 7600x3d is worth for sure. Just resell the unopened cpu then buy a new 9800x3d. In all seriousness the bundle is worth imo either way. But cpu alone not so much

[@fabsenbmx]

also very good availability in Europe especially in Germany. Its not exclusive to micro center in the US

[@joshuapicarello]

You'd probably see a decent difference with a 4070ti or 4070ti Super, since both CPUs max out the 4070 super without a problem.

[@OffBeatViBE]

Wow, it’s available here in Europe. It ain’t micro centre exclusive

[@legart4507]

If you have 7600, it makes no sense to upgrade to x3d, might as well wait for 9600x3d

[@hbgrimmer850]

They're basically so close.

[@leoariasyt]

The 7600X3D runs 15 to 20 Watts less than the 7600. Other than that, 100 bucks is not worth the pay.

[@zapvamsi8045]

you're doing CPU Reviews, yet you didn't test Cyberpunk 2077 Game which also Utilizes CPU resources on par with GPU.

[@chrispittmanComputing]

$100 dollars is too large of a price gap for a Ryzen 5 class CPU. I wonder how it would stack up against a 7700x?

[@ClamChowder95]

Should have pushed the GPU harder with a higher preset. I know it can handle it because I have a lesser GPU. Neglecting to track 1% lows. Could play a huge role in someone's decision. Flawed testing all around.

[@chipwitgaming]

I mean if you squint and really want to see it, you can justify it. The same way if you believe hard enough you can bring tinkerbell back to life. It’s NOT over $100 better. Spend that money on more gpu or better/more ram.

[@SOREI]

yea sure just lemme empty my savings to take a 14 hour flight to my nearest micro center so i can buy it and fly back, definitely worth it

[@JakeTaco83]

I want to upgrade but dont want a full ATX motherboard, but without the bundle $300 doesnt seem that good of a deal when I can get a 7500f for $125. I still havent decided though. Maybe just sell the mobo and get the bundle anyway.

[@crazy8sdrums]

Seriously, folks....don't pre-assemble your PC innards upon the MOBO box. That came from early KZbin rookies. No actual PC maker experts do this because there are risks involved. So ROOKIE! STOP IT! Do it on the fancy extra large mouse pad, like the one featured in this video...perfect. NOT ON THE MOBO BOX!!!! SO ROOKIE!!!! STOP IT!

[@crazy8sdrums]

"Well, we've done it a few times and no probs so far...." - Then by all means, keep looking like a noob...a noob that refuses to learn anything.

[@Pravculear]

you know, the 8400F is a new CPU. I wonder how that performs versus the 7500F?

[@jurpo6]

10 frames worse

[@mattburns2968]

The 7600X3D is also running at much lower power consumption.

[@Pauliepsi]

How does it compare to the 7700 X? $270 price range.

[@BREEZYM6015]

Is it even possible to max out an 850W PSU?

[@zakarysiders2020]

It really wasn't all that much better for almost double the price with deals you can get right now... Then again, I am curious how it would do on the 1080p settings on a single player high visual game.

[@Bryandaman18]

sick pc!

[@igorp]

should have compared to 7700 closer in price, but which is faster?

[@FatedXircle]

Would the core difference matter since im still using 5700x on a AM4 build for both gaming and content creation?

[@guildpilotone]

I think I would go with a 7600X.

[@JoseFernandez-tx8kj]

I build my pc with 7600x3d with 7900xt do I have any bottle neck?

[@wallywest2360]

At 1080p you do, but I assume you're at 1440p. In which case there's very little to gain by upgrading the CPU, even all the way to a 9800X3D. That's a good system for several years at least, and your first upgrade should probably be the video card, to whatever makes sense at that point.

[@ryryk6977]

My build has a 7600 it does the job for the games I play

[@mattlamb8084]

dont you need you reinstal amd chipset drivers when switching back and forth between x3d and non-x3d cpus?

[@solarxenoz]

Nearest MicroCenter: 211.3 mi

[@Richard-c1o6c]

Hey I found a laptop for 641.99 that’s with tax and shipping it has a 4050 with 512GB ssd and 16GB of ram it is called the MSI thin and it is on Best Buy I hope the price does not go up because I’m buying it if it stays that price

[@EGSoto]

Requesting Gaming PC day 19

[@yerachmielb1]

What about the difference between the 7600X and the 7600X3D? Those are the two that are available at Micro Center (at least the one near me).

[@marioStortuga]

X3D is geared more for gaming

[@wallywest2360]

The 7600X3D is a 7800X3D that failed it's validation testing on one or two cores. So they disabled two cores and now it's a 6 core CPU. But otherwise it's the same as a 7800X3D. In most games their performance is almost identical. The 3D chips have a LOT more cache than the others, which primarily benefits games. The $400 bundle at Microcenter is a screaming deal.

[@Mykl1666]

Id stick with my 7800X3D

[@tonkatoytruck]

I would have to get far more performance from these cpus to upgrade from my 5600X3D.

[@Henryisdjfunkyho]

People need to stop talking about the 7600x3d the prices are starting to rise now please stop I'm gonna buy one but in a month

[@kingzroyalzz7059]

I have A DDR4 motherboard but wants to switch too DDR5 motherboard, will I be able to use my old parts until I upgrade? Or just need a whole new pc

[@mhaden-k8z]

for a 150$ difference nope . Anything at 100 fps or higher is not justified to spend the extra cash .

[@ericmusetti8201]

So was that the 4070 super or 4070ti super? Because it says 16GB, which would be the ti super.

[@bhgpharmacy3540]

18hrs away is the closet one lol

[@Mongoloidmyke]

Are you guys running motion blur in COD?