S&C Coaches React to Throwers doing Power Cleans!

[@electivirethrows4298]

Finally a video on throwing, it's for sure the sport with the most skill development and physical performance requirements similar to weightlifting, would love to see you guys cover Bondarchuks model of sports specificity and how that is transferable into many other contexts! Thanks for the content boys, keep it coming!

[@eric3483]

Throwers are unbelievable athletes. There's a video of Joe Kovacs doing 320kg for a set of 10 on back squats in training, and Ryan Crouser (shot put wr holder) has some crazy training videos too. I believe I saw a clip of him getting a 34" or 36" vertical at 145+ kg bodyweight.

[@sikastrength]

You might know this, there was a story of a shot putter behind the neck seated pressing 500lbs. Any idea who this was?

[@evangaylor]

@@sikastrength Udo Beyer. East German from the 70s and 80s. I think Chad Wesley Smith has a short video on him where he talks about the press

[@harrygraham2022]

320 for 10 is absurd

[@acerld519]

@@evangaylor Udo Beyer supposedly had a 21m+ stand throw. Unbelievable strength.

[@nickcustodi592]

That push press was almost terrifying how much control it was executed with

[@sikastrength]

Absolutely obnoxious!

[@fartmaster--po4ti]

It's not surprising that throwers are some of the most impressive athletes in the world in cross discipline. Throwing is one of the movements humans are best at in the animal kingdom, we evolved to do it better than any other creature.

[@huamiify]

Love the use of the word "obnoxious" when talking about how heavy the weights they are throwing around 😅 I'm going to using that word myself going forward!

[@leoesharkey1]

My fellow Irish guys, while coaching shotputters, I spoke with an Olympic champion in the Shot, Mike Stulce who told me he cleaned 250Kgs and snatched 200kgs at 6'4" . I had seen a video of him cleaning 230kgs, but did not know this was not his best. He also said he did a back squat at 340kgs weightlifter-style. Food for thought...

[@GarageStrength]

Hmm… interesting 🧐

[@sikastrength]

Someone enlighten me? I've no idea what's going on.

[@GarageStrength]

@@sikastrength Haha sorry guys. We coach Olympic Level throwers going to Tokyo and Weightlifters at worlds so it was interesting to see a video where other Weightlifting coaches cover talk about throwing.

[@stevenhewes1990]

2 great channels coming together...that'd be good.

[@getstrongby4038]

@@stevenhewes1990 nah garage guys attitude stinks

[@christopherseat9871]

Bravo on the HANG CLEAN

[@kevinhammack3915]

I need to work towards those bridge rollovers, that was unique

[@George12String]

I knew a NCAA champion thrower in college. He outlifted the football team.

[@edaws52]

I've been waiting for a throwers video like this! Thanks! There's a lot of insane strength and athletic feats by throwers that seem like myths especially during the steroid eras.

[@edaws52]

Stefan Fernholm is said to have curl grip clean 180Kg and run a 4.3 40 yard dash. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWmzYmOQnbCbiNk

[@bouisa]

Wernor Gunthor, 6'7" 300lbs shot putter from the 70's/80's- one video of him Chad Wesley Smith considers "the most impressive display of reactive elastic power ever": kzbin.info/www/bejne/opaUdpWOaZtqqtU . Heard that echoed by several S&C coaches. Always been in awe of his training videos. There's one video of him doing squats/power clean/behind the neck jerk moving fast with a lot of plates but I can't tell how much weight it is.

[@stevenfranke5321]

My buddies reaction to the 460lb hang clean, "He just HOISTED it!"

[@mellpear4773]

These lifts were wild

[@wendell3610]

I threw for fun in highschool and my coach was still in college. One day he threw the highschool shotput with his off hand without a spin 60+ feet just to motivate our best thrower.

[@sikastrength]

What the actual fuck 🤣

[@alexarquilla]

I saw Curt Jensen Compete at local weightlifting meet in 2017. He Powered 140+/180+ with such ease it was just disgusting. He had only 3 months of training for the meet.

[@sikastrength]

The audacity 🤣

[@tylera86]

Competing for funzies 😂

[@Jo-oe3pi]

Do you guys sell a program specifically for jerks or push press? I’ve seen the bench/ strict press and the specifically bench press programs, are they adaptable?

[@henry_g_s]

Gerd Kanter, Robert Harting, and Daniel Stahl notoriously catch their cleans vertically, but they can get away with from a raw power standpoint. I personally try for better form bc my mobility is good (I throw discus)

[@sikastrength]

It's definitely a safer option!

[@bonefrancois1752]

I have a small obsession with the special exercises used by throwers and wrestlers. Those 2 sports seem to me to produce the strangest and strongest freaks who I'm sure could do very well at any more traditional strength sport.

[@Yupppi]

What the heck was that hang power clean? Gripnrip was beast though.

[@elmollo9432]

Damn, these guys are insanely strong!

[@sikastrength]

ridiculous!

[@jamesrbsisson91]

Where did you get the "support german weightliting" t-shirt from?

[@spotofgolf]

Would love to hear you lads opinions on s&c for rowing. A strength-endurance sport with quite unique positions, although similar to clean/DL

[@sikastrength]

we can add it to the list! we're looking at some speed kayakers at the moment

[@spotofgolf]

@@sikastrength tasty

[@tartalja]

Ive read that some east german thrower did 270kg behind the neck push press. Insane.

[@motagrota]

In sikastan, the bar squats you

[@JHMninja89]

Seems like throwers are the strongest non-sportslifting athletes, WTF

[@DanielSt444]

They are

[@reinismartinsons]

Weightlifting used to be considered part of athletics just like throwing.

[@sikastrength]

I think weightlifting is called Heavy Athletics when translated from Russian

[@DartAleks]

@@sikastrength Correct. Weightlifting is Heavy Athletics and Track&Field or Athletics is called Light Athletics in Russia.

[@Coach_BigMac]

Most lineman in the NFL are former high school throwers. And most throwers were high school football players.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

In the USA atleast and countries that play rugby. In countries that don't have those sports it's people who were federation footballers, netball players and track kids, sometimes cricket players. In Jamaica it's mostly people that didn't play any other sports in school.

[@iaint1873]

I know this is an old video, but there's a couple of older videos on KZbin from Primoz Kozmus. Former Olympic champion, but quite nothing as freaky as these guys. Interesting form. I'll be honest and say as a general trainee, it's how I've done pc/high pull since.

[@amazingzach28]

Another population that I was shocked about how good they are at lifting is alpine skiers.

[@cocvhecv]

Why would block pulls be better than hang for throwers?

[@tobiasbrunner4720]

No mention of Pitkämäki? :-(

[@DarkPsyence]

where can I get that Nike, German shirt?

[@sikastrength]

german weightlifting shop but i think it's just weightliftingshop.com now

[@DarkPsyence]

@@sikastrength sweet, it looks great and thanks for the reply 💪

[@Sierra-su9xf]

What ratios in relation to bodyweight would you say are ideal/good enough (lol) for push press, hang power clean etc? in the same vein as the 2x bodyweight squat for vertical jump

[@sikastrength]

So for a good athlete, someone who wants to be good at their throwing sport you'd want to be looking at something like 1.5x times bodyweight push press and 1.2-1.5 power clean

[@wolfemooney7188]

Hail Sikastan

[@ZeroEditsWeightlifitng]

I don’t think the hang power clean or snatch are the most effective lift weightlifters do. The most effective lift would be the split jerk using your non dominant leg forward. The timing and position is almost identical to the position you deliver the shot and the discus and the javelin(this one most applicable of all) in. If you’re a right handed thrower your right foot lands first in the center, then the left at the front(same right left with the split). You also need to get your back knee bent and block the left leg hard with equal balance in both feet. Beyond that with the jerk if you are taught to internally rotate overhead you’re building scapular stability in internal rotation which is how you deliver the discus. The timing and positions are so similar I don’t understand why more coaches don’t use that lift as the primary strength lift for throwers.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

It's the primary lift in Jamaican high schools for throwers atleast.

[@ZeroEditsWeightlifitng]

@@hainleysimpson1507 makes sense why Jamaica is doing so well in the discus

[@leoesharkey1]

The east german throwers did a lot of split snatch and split jerk behind the neck, alternating legs, they were surprisingly strong...

[@michaelmackenzie6396]

Apart from the generally larger stature of throwers, they share much of the same qualities as weightlifters I guess in terms of an abundance of fast twitch fibres and great neurology etc for one powerful exertion

[@beauchamphuberville1355]

Pat Barry for the backflip big guy record!

[@acerld519]

It's funny to think of the throws siphoning off US weightlifting talent. The US is so stacked in the shot putt in particular that the chance of an athlete making a living from throwing is probably as remote as it is for weightlifting. Good for college scholarships, though.

[@HikoSeijuroXIII]

Wish I was half as strong

[@jetthorst5472]

6:00 nobody cares he completed the lift lmaoo

[@5minwatchreviews]

If I tried rotations with a 20kg plate like Ashraf does, then either a) my arms would fall off b) I'd tear in two and end up like Rayman

[@sikastrength]

Ashraf was VERY proud of it, as he should be

[@brendansaltvick5824]

Give the man asylum in sikastan

[@sikastrength]

Now he'd get a visa!!!

[@NickDysonLD]

god throwing training hurts lol XD

[@Mickevostyle]

Just because you can , doesn't mean you should

[@SmallersCY]

nice channel lads. I have followed Eoin on and off since his old farm days when he was grip n ripping like Ilya. Then he got stronger than me and I unfollowed him for about 10 years out of spite. All the best!

[@dylanfinucane7193]

……..Suspicious……hang power cleaning more than weightlifters doing full cleans

[@pingleton]

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