S1 E47. pretty privilege

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Obio.

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@williamproffitt2201
@williamproffitt2201 3 жыл бұрын
This seems less like a conversation about pretty privilege (which I argue is a real thing), and more about the challenges of being conventionally attractive. Perhaps y'all can expand this dialogue to consider the social benefits granted to those who are pretty. How does being pretty affect employment? How does it impact access to exclusive spaces? Has it gotten you out of a potentially dangerous police encounter? There's a lot to unpack here.
@LBates09
@LBates09 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!! I completely agree with you on this one!
@billybatson3810
@billybatson3810 3 жыл бұрын
Great reply. The only really concrete example he gave was that it helped him pass everyone to get in the club.
@pepboycal8179
@pepboycal8179 3 жыл бұрын
there is a lot of privileges associated with it but most importantly is being pretty on the outside has to be the same on the inside....if your spirit is ugly, i don't care what you look like on the outside..it doesn't matter...
@mikelarry3835
@mikelarry3835 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo!! This is NOT about pretty privilege
@kbadboyman13
@kbadboyman13 3 жыл бұрын
I was one minute into the video and noticed this. The title and perspective of this video are terribly misleading and trivialize the actual discussion on pretty privilege and more importantly the lack thereof.
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty privilege is actually INSANE! The power of beauty/desirability holds so much weight in our society. A great example is Jeremy Meeks, someone who went to jail, but then his mugshot alone cemented him a thriving modeling career! LIKE WHAT? No one even question what the hell he did to get in jail nor did they care. He's literally a millionaire now from just being attractive. It just fell into his lap. There was no effort on his part. What's crazy is this happens for a lot of beautiful people. Life is a hundred times easier to navigate when you are blessed with looks. Some of you in the comments trying to compare the struggles of being beautiful with the struggles of being unattractive are being extremely disingenuous. That's like saying being born wealthy is as hard as being born poor.
@lawrencew777
@lawrencew777 3 жыл бұрын
While I appreciate the genuine effort behind this video, but the conversation definitely ventured into “it’s so hard being so attractive”. Even though it wasn’t the intent, it’s a very slippery slope.
@herbsaint636
@herbsaint636 3 жыл бұрын
And what's the problem with that?
@keithkennard6398
@keithkennard6398 3 жыл бұрын
I think that this topic made alot of brothers uncomfortable which is precisely why it relevant . Most people if truth be told have struggled with this very topic norther where u lie on the spectrum. I admittedly have been on both sides of the fence . But we sometimes hate to feel uncomfortable in our skin no matter what the topic is and then there lies the Segway to atleast allowing ourselves to dialog about the topic and risk exposure.
@domigriffin340
@domigriffin340 2 жыл бұрын
But he not pretty and all that I’ve seen myself and a lot of other hit sissies that would melt him but keep going as the mirror turns to me and my beauty
@13579hee
@13579hee 2 жыл бұрын
This entire conversation was giving "it's so hard to be pretty but don't hate me cuz I'm beautiful"
@matcht5994
@matcht5994 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a perfect example of why people in privileged positions shouldn't lead conversations about their privilege; you have nothing to say. Everyone gets treated badly somewhere, people are mean. And attributing that to the fact that people around you are envious of your beauty, while possibly true, is simply annoying. Also its shallow to not consider that they had to deal with you being favored over them and acted out badly. It's not your fault ofc, but to act oblivious to that says a lot. And the self love stuff feels condescending. For many, self love is an act of defiance because they aren't deemed the standard. I'm sure its still hard to have self love when everyone around you is praising you, but its certainly harder to love yourself when you receive none of that praise. This convo needed nuance and some research...
@alw.8849
@alw.8849 3 жыл бұрын
well u dont think this should've been a topic, thats like fat people saying that slim people dont have any issues, i think everybody has some kind of obstacle in life that they navigate through
@matcht5994
@matcht5994 3 жыл бұрын
​@@alw.8849 This is another example of conversations that aren't equivalent. Fat people don't receive proper health care because of their size. No one thinks that the conventionally accepted body types have perfect lives, but their life isn't hindered by their body type. That is what privilege is. I also think pretty privilege is a great topic to talk about, when you have something productive to add to the conversation. This just failed to meet that mark and its okay.
@asktheglutenfreechef3072
@asktheglutenfreechef3072 3 жыл бұрын
@@matcht5994 speak on it
@vgreen1106
@vgreen1106 2 жыл бұрын
Say That!!!! Placed and Worded Perfectly!!
@nosedive1st
@nosedive1st 2 жыл бұрын
What a great critique of the structure of this episode and it’s missteps despite the good intentions.
@zevrahceroom7724
@zevrahceroom7724 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should do this with someone who doesn't benefit from pretty privilege because this was a tad off. Pretty privilege has a huge impact on people who are not seen as conventionally attractive and what they are capable of, and it's a bit dishonest to compare the two.
@ocomogosiay
@ocomogosiay 3 жыл бұрын
I completely AGREE... it's kind of arguable to say "It's easy for you because you're pretty. He should have two friends a pretty one and and average looking one for this conversation. That would be REAL TEA spiller.
@PerryPerfectPerson
@PerryPerfectPerson 3 жыл бұрын
@@ocomogosiay how would he go about asking the average person to be in the video? Lol
@ocomogosiay
@ocomogosiay 3 жыл бұрын
@@PerryPerfectPerson that's a good question... it depends. I saw a video of another content creator that discussed fat shaming in the gay community. A young posted a video about having the courage to go out, shoot his shot, with the person responding "You're too fat to try to flirt with anyone." So there's a discussion to be had about those aesthetically gifted versus those that aren't.
@zevrahceroom7724
@zevrahceroom7724 3 жыл бұрын
@@PerryPerfectPerson I would do it lol. There is nothing wrong with bing average looking. Like he said in the video looks arent earned and there is so much that goes into what is considered attractive.
@PerryPerfectPerson
@PerryPerfectPerson 3 жыл бұрын
@@zevrahceroom7724 I’m just thinking about how it would be bing the volunteer. Because if he walked his pretty ass up to me and asked if I could be the average voice… well my day would been ruined lol 😂.
@edwardpalmore7114
@edwardpalmore7114 3 жыл бұрын
In psychology they call it the "Halo Effect." It is the feeling that if somebody is gorgeous that everything else about them is top shelf. The opposite of this halo effect can be just as detrimental. Hating people because they aren't all that and rejecting what good they have to offer because they don't look like Phillip Michael Thomas back in the day. And sometimes we reject a good gift because the packaging is not all the appealing.
@dayne9559
@dayne9559 2 жыл бұрын
Love this ❤
@jayalex2000
@jayalex2000 3 жыл бұрын
On a side note, the editing in this video is hilarious🤣
@Anfani
@Anfani 3 жыл бұрын
That part from scream took me out lol
@MarcusMartn
@MarcusMartn 3 жыл бұрын
Facts, those clips show up at the perfect time lmaooooo
@derricklangford4725
@derricklangford4725 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about Pretty Privilege is how short lived it is, the hard part about it is the adjustment after it ends, now the playing field is equal 😹😂😉
@Ellerich3
@Ellerich3 2 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh!! Now this!!
@Shem-mania
@Shem-mania 3 жыл бұрын
No shade, but honestly, when people with pretty privilege talk about how it affects them...it's like rich people talking about how hard it is to have money or white people talking about the white struggle. My response is always, sorry, can't relate...should I feel sorry for you??? hmmm. But, listen, life is hard enough fam, if you have an advantage, run with it, not to the detriment of others, but don't apologize for what you can't control, and control what you can. But that's my non-pretty-privilege-ass' opinion. Much luv still.
@CHEETAH69
@CHEETAH69 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like “pretty privilege” is kinda silly to talk about. You get into clubs, more people wanna know you and you generally get told “yes” more than “ugly” people. The disadvantages sound like people want to have sex with you, people think you’re stuck up or people don’t take you seriously. None of that sounds like anything to spend too much time complaining about.
@jonwill586
@jonwill586 3 жыл бұрын
@@CHEETAH69 and even then it’s like “ugly” people do the same thing that pretty people do. Constantly showcasing their personalities to show more than their looks, but pretty people have the advantage
@bookertable
@bookertable 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, too much narcissism
@loveyu2778
@loveyu2778 2 жыл бұрын
Its the people around us that put the privlege on us...They are the ones that over exagerate our looks..
@jaypea2930
@jaypea2930 3 жыл бұрын
I think just because someone may be attractive, doesn't mean that they will be attractive to you, surely. Being attractive doesn't mean you're a good person. It may also come with a privilege to a point, but if the surface and personality don't align with the values, qualities, and morals of the person looking, then does it matter? Who really wants surface or wants to be surface. I'm sure you'll know when you know if they have the attributes you find attractive then great, if not then good to be friends!! Everyone has a preference...
@xamanbro826
@xamanbro826 3 жыл бұрын
Okay… Was anyone making these assumptions to begin with?
@jonhinson5701
@jonhinson5701 2 жыл бұрын
There are pros and cons about being considered good looking. Even though I had a 3.86 average in college, men only valued my looks. And I have had people assume I was dumb even though they never had a conversation with me beforehand. People often assume I am flirting when I am just trying to be nice. On the other hand, being "pretty" has also been my super power. I remember going to a club and the bouncer told me i had a beautiful face and let me in without paying admission so you are treated differently. Of course, both of you know what I am saying as you are more than pretty or "attractive". You are gorgeous!
@TheOpinionated1
@TheOpinionated1 3 жыл бұрын
Okkk you betta speak on it! “Magnet to people with ego issues…” smh
@PerryPerfectPerson
@PerryPerfectPerson 3 жыл бұрын
Having a really attractive friend is hard. They are getting a lot of attention and you are getting none. Well that’s no fun. Being around attractive people can be really unhealthy for less attractive people. Pretty privilege isn’t something that’s going to go away. So I would say use it to your full advantage, and don’t look back. But I will say. I’m happy that fashion is allowing for plus size models of both genders. Opening up what is considered beautiful. It definitely is helping people not feel so bad because they weren’t blessed in one certain way. Love the videos
@ocomogosiay
@ocomogosiay 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you. I had a really good friend who was GORGEOUS and I had REALLY work not to feel bad about myself. We were both performers, we could do a show together, sing my face OFF and people still would bypass me. Lol
@jonwill586
@jonwill586 3 жыл бұрын
Not his teachers said he was going to be a model….then he literally became a glorified model😭😭😭😭😭
@MrEst25
@MrEst25 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo the sound affects and inserts are takin me out 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@JordanCharlesMusic
@JordanCharlesMusic 3 жыл бұрын
No, I’m sorry girl, but this is not it. It seems to me that while he’s very nice he doesn’t actually understand the extent to which pretty privelige will be impacting his life. Sure there’s the big things, but I garuantee there’s 100 instances every day where his life is easier in small ways because he’s gorgeous. People are right that someone who professes not to experience pretty privilege should have been in this video alongside him to ask the questions. Two handsome men talking about this can’t get to the heart of the issue. Ask how many free muffins he’s been given with coffees, how many extra large pours at bars, he won’t even know how many times he’s been booked for jobs over non-pretty people. Privelige isn’t something you experience, it’s something you don’t..so of course he think he’s only used it to his advantage once or twice because those are the only times he’s done it ON PURPOSE
@jonwill586
@jonwill586 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you smashed this. Well done King 👑
@DJ-zd3gj
@DJ-zd3gj 2 жыл бұрын
WHEW!
@Bloom855
@Bloom855 3 жыл бұрын
I think desirability is a bit more expansive than what is presented here. This is a topic that must be engaged critically, otherwise it comes off as parading social capital. Though I sympathize with the anti-objectification sentiments expressed, the "struggle" of being pretty is in no ways comparable to being undesirable. Those among us who are considered undesirable (due to fatphobia, ableism, colorism, transphobia, etc.) are quite literally treated as inhumane. People are denied access to friendship, romantic partnership, employment, healthcare, etc. These are basic needs and human rights.
@grayscar05
@grayscar05 3 жыл бұрын
Good point but attractive people can be treated inhumanely as well hence the high levels of objectification and unwanted aggression with them. This isn't the oppression olympics but had to make that clear. Also lets not forget there's somebody for everybody in this world ... attraction is in the eye of the beholder.
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
@@grayscar05 Well it's not the oppression olympics but making the argument that most beautiful people have it as badly as unattractive people is complete bullshit. That's like arguing that being rich is just as hard as being poor. Again ... that's bullshit. There of course may be some outliers to this, but for the most part the struggles of being attractive do not compare to the struggles of being unattractive. And yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder but we all instinctually know what's beautiful even as babies. That's statement is just giving a lot of false hope.
@CHEETAH69
@CHEETAH69 3 жыл бұрын
@@grayscar05 yeah…no. We are part of a community where respect and visibility can often depend on how “f*ckable one is considered. There might be pitfalls to being attractive or desirable. But they don’t come close to what folk who are considered unattractive have to endure. This “everybody suffers” talk feels very “all lives matter”-ish to me and it’s unfortunate.
@grayscar05
@grayscar05 3 жыл бұрын
@@quizzlybear It depends on person. There may be some people who genuinely hate being attractive bc they only focus on the negative .... I know some people that genuinely hate the attention and harassment. And vice versa ... I know conventionally unattractive ppl who don't like special attention and being left alone. Also I've heard rich people say they were happier poor. So yeah depends but you're mostly right
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
@@grayscar05 There are of course outliers to everything as I stated, but you have to understand unattractive people get a lot of attention as well, but it's mostly ALL negative. They become the targets of cruelty and humiliation on the daily basis. Whereas, a beautiful person would not simply receive all negative attention, especially in the age of technology and social media where you can capitalize off of beauty like never before. At least if you are beautiful and have haters you can brush it off because you know they are just envious and wish to be you. When you are unattractive that is just not the case. Regardless, the benefits to being attractive are sooo huge that it often offsets the negative aspects. The amount of opportunities and money that can fall in your lap with little to no effort, simply by being beautiful, is honestly absurd. The list of benefits is too long. I've heard many rich people say that too, but I don't see many of them giving away all their money to be poor again.
@glennpowell8864
@glennpowell8864 3 жыл бұрын
There are SO many other privileges that come along with being attractive/pretty that I think y’all could of touched on. Y’all were going way too easy on the topic.
@cyrellroberson9698
@cyrellroberson9698 3 жыл бұрын
lmao that Brenda scream @ 9:00 took me out! Great convo, per usual.
@blackinnature1752
@blackinnature1752 3 жыл бұрын
This episode missed the mark and I’m kinda surprised that you couldn’t tell when editing/watching back. 🤔🤔🤔
@fromseedtobloommedia9340
@fromseedtobloommedia9340 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the way you look can get you access to the table, I consider myself attractive but my husband is the actual has pretty privilege; and we have had that discussion many times. People will go out of their way to give him access to all the things. Many times he has had to say this is my husband to stop the disrespect. I’ve always had privilege because of the way I carry myself very confidently and the way I dress, but my husband can wear a garbage bag and get all the things; however it also has come with it’s cons!
@justintuition
@justintuition 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you brought this up as a convo. “Pretty people” go through it too. And everyone’s definition of pretty is different, you just may be a person that is pretty in the society you live in. But we do get alot of hate behind being born with something we didn’t outright ask for. On a side note, no matter how pretty someone is, if you are secure in yourself it will never be a threat. Just my 2 cents. Great convo bro keep doing what you do 🙌🏼
@sydneyreid7401
@sydneyreid7401 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
There's disadvantages to nearly everything but to equate what pretty people go through vs what less attractive people go through is being disingenuous. Being ugly is leagues more difficult than being born beautiful.
@justintuition
@justintuition 3 жыл бұрын
@@quizzlybear I never equated the struggles between “pretty people” and those not considered pretty, reread my comment. My comment was to state that there is a struggle from the pretty side as well and if more people understood that, there would be less hate towards them. Which is why I am grateful for conversations like these. There is always someone prettier than the prettiest person, but does that make them ugly? No.
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
@@justintuition There are struggles with beautiful people but it's not nearly as much hate being thrown in their direction as you are stating. If anything being beautiful causes people to be more nice and generous towards you with little to no reason. The positives to being beautiful are enough to offset much of the bad. In regards to there will always be someone prettier.They will still have many benefits because of how they look, but maybe not as much as a more attractive person. In my opinion tho, at a certain point when a room is full with attractive people that is when the idea of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" really comes into play. But one is saying that makes them ugly by comparison, they are still beautiful. We know ugly and what's considered undesirable. People forget that unattractive people get just as much attention as beautiful people but it's ALL negative attention. Again, the hate that some beautiful people might receive here and there, is nothing compared to what unattractive people get.
@justintuition
@justintuition 3 жыл бұрын
@@quizzlybear I hear you loud and clear. My point of the comment wasn’t to start an argument about pretty and ugly, it was to add to the awareness of the struggle of “pretty”. Beyonce told yall a while back pretty hurts, I’m just glad my brother made a video to bring awareness to that. Maybe you should suggest he do a conversation on the struggles of being ugly, bc that wasn’t what this video was about. I can only speak from the pretty standpoint which is why I commented 🤷🏻‍♂️.
@calvinfelton4077
@calvinfelton4077 2 жыл бұрын
This is a complicated thing pretty privilege. I've been witness to friends use it to their advantage & see them lose there looks. When people only like you for what you look like, it can be even more devastating when it's gone. # Look deeper. Looks may open the door but they don't necessarily keep people.
@guypace4247
@guypace4247 3 жыл бұрын
Yall both said it... You have to learn to love yourself before anyone will love the real you!
@quizzlybear
@quizzlybear 3 жыл бұрын
I mean that's kind of ironic considering it's easy for them to say it, because they are beautiful. It feels empty coming from attractive people who don't have to struggle most of their lives accepting themselves. Almost as if a wealthy person told a struggling working class person that life is great, you just have to wake up and choose to be happy. It's like well yeah, it's easy for you to say, you can do whatever you want.
@BenjaminBanks615
@BenjaminBanks615 3 жыл бұрын
That was the best take away of the video. Love yourself. 🗣WE ALL PRETTY DAMN IT
@13579hee
@13579hee 2 жыл бұрын
@@quizzlybear exactly, I will go as far as to say that the average individual who fits the socially constructed concept of attractiveness has never needed to build all of their Confidence from within. They've lived a life of compassion care and acceptance from many individuals, and that probably shaped how they perceive themselves. There's empirical evidence showing how desirability shapes the way that people are treated Beyond the issue of looks. I always go to Rihanna as an example of this. So many women wonder how Rihanna can be so confident in who she is, but the truth of the matter is that Rihanna's confidence is shaped by her lived experience.. in her lived experience has been shaped by her desire ability. If Rihanna did not look the way she did people would not have validated so much of her identity and that would not have given her the confidence in herself that she has today. Confidence in his current sense demands an ability to trust in and rely on something... desirable people can trust in / rely on being liked, being accepted, being cared for, being listened to... less desirable people cannot trust in or rely on that... and sadly, it doesn't matter how much the less desirable person tries to convince themselves that they are worthy, as long as they go out into a world that treats them as if they are less than they're going to have to reconcile with it. That's not something individuals who fit the socially constructed concept of attractiveness understand
@joshjosh1234jd
@joshjosh1234jd 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like there was some flirting 👀 🤗🤗
@xamanbro826
@xamanbro826 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all skin!!!!!! Melanin for the win!
@Anfani
@Anfani 3 жыл бұрын
Andres parents are beautiful. He about to be fine for the rest of his life 🤣🤣🤣
@charlescannon2168
@charlescannon2168 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Obio. I enjoying aging. I prefer to look my age. However, even with a full beard at 32 people still think I am in my 20’s. My gray hair will start coming in the future so hopefully I will be giving my age.
@asktheglutenfreechef3072
@asktheglutenfreechef3072 3 жыл бұрын
This didn’t give what it was suppose to have gave
@CHEETAH69
@CHEETAH69 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t sound like y’all talking so much about “privilege.” Sounds like a lot of disadvantages here.
@TheOpinionated1
@TheOpinionated1 3 жыл бұрын
Lawddd the Kodak clip took me out 😭😭 you are chefs kiss with clips 🤣
@PleaseAdviseNook
@PleaseAdviseNook 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤔…definitely not what I expected from this episode…I kinda agree wit the masses on this one with regards to different perspectives…I think maybe if you had another person that wasn’t so ‘privileged’, this would’ve been a much better conversation.
@emanuelsanders2030
@emanuelsanders2030 3 жыл бұрын
Water seeks its own level! It's funny how you mentioned age/maturity. Even as children, whether we want to admit it or not, pretty girls and handsome boys are looked upon/viewed differently. Crazy as it sounds it's a very natural occurrence and it's everywhere, even in nature. Take the animal kingdom for example, females look for the bigger/better looking males. People often say that looks don't matter, but that's the first thing you notice about a person when you see them. You don't know what kind of car the drive, what kind of house they live in or even their level of education, you notice how attractive they are. It affects almost every aspect of life.
@djgales97
@djgales97 3 жыл бұрын
Obio and these cut away/ memes are killing me. Love the video 🧡
@IGuess...
@IGuess... 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy!!!! 😂 Exotic walks Perfect Tens so he knows exactly what TF he gives!!! 😂😂😂
@chrissgee7331
@chrissgee7331 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really important topic to discuss 👍🏼 great video! Side note: editing had me dead 😂
@newbengraham4775
@newbengraham4775 3 жыл бұрын
chile, that's exotic mugler. stop playing.
@pppexplorer
@pppexplorer 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic and discussion, guys. I have two points to make: 1) There is definitely such a thing as "pretty privilege". As a species, we worship beauty (however it is currently defined by the culture). You can see examples of this on social media in the comments that people write, and how some content creators are able to quickly grow their followers and online business trading on their looks. You see this on KZbin, Instagram, TikTok, etc. 2) One day, it would be nice to see an openly gay black celebrity couple -- meaning with two black men in it. If they look like you guys, that will be even hotter! 🔥 😀The few black celebrities / public figures that do come out always seem to be dating non-black men (for a variety of reasons, some of which are understandable). It would be refreshing to see a gay fully black couple (representation matters 😉).
@MarcusMartn
@MarcusMartn 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a huge Pretty Privilege in the gay community your treated a certain way just because you look. I see it all the time
@KindlyKhari
@KindlyKhari 3 жыл бұрын
^^^THIS!
@rdb9321
@rdb9321 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent exchange and content discussion you (Obie) has have various folks and topics - Btw, digging the fro hat 😉
@jamesanson2711
@jamesanson2711 3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Pretty privileged has been a dynamic for woman for time immemorial Welcome to the club guys
@leggomyweavo
@leggomyweavo 3 жыл бұрын
Pls 🤚🏾 the cutaways 😂😂
@owenbeharry8478
@owenbeharry8478 3 ай бұрын
I find being good-looking as less of a privilege and people are often jealous and mean. Surprisingly, I get this from older men especially. Then you have people latch on to you because they want to be benefactors of those you reject.
@sydneyreid7401
@sydneyreid7401 3 жыл бұрын
I love this topic because I feel like yes like you said about gay and being a guy it's hard to know should we cross that line too. But besides that pretty privelige needs to be talked about so glad you speaking on this
@kevinmcalpine6929
@kevinmcalpine6929 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to this soo damn much. I'm 49 now and this shit still happens to me and at the end of the day I'm just a human being going through life just like everyone else.
@rondvue2129
@rondvue2129 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck w/ that my beautiful Brothers . The problem will be ageism & Insta-reality for your generation. The challenges of recognizing real beauty from sensationalism will be the struggle. Stay true...create space! - 60 yr old Uncle
@LockedInNOW
@LockedInNOW 3 жыл бұрын
I think as long you’re a good person inside as well as outside , then you good ❤️ and can we talk about how a lot of these “Features “ that is condemned as “ Pretty “ perpetuates Whiteness and European Features … but that’s a whole another conversation 🤷🏾‍♂️ !
@billybatson3810
@billybatson3810 3 жыл бұрын
I wished they would have touched on this. Great reply.
@sedecim
@sedecim 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this it was very insightful. The world over focuses on being pretty and the advantages that goes along with it- beauty pageants. What we tend to forget is the work that goes into it : maintain what some may or may not call pretty. Which can equally be considered physically healthy. Looking good has a required amount of time taking care of what is called good looks. Not everyone is willing to put all that energy into the way they look. It is easy to see that both of you work out, exercise and are conscious of their health. With that said, If someone has low self esteem no matter how much you think life has blessed someone you have no idea what they have been through. Lets not forget the jealousy factors particularly in the black community. Colorism also viewed as a form of pretty privilege - those who are considered lighter ( which again is relative ). I think folks need to check themselves at times and not focus on what someone else has. If you don't get a job because of the way you look that says more about the job than that says about you. But you need loving people around you to tell you that. I have known some folks who are considered pretty or should I say what society has deemed desirable - some have been raped as children. Bottom line stop comparing yourself to others and love you, and be thankful for those who do love you for you. First step to loving you take care of your mental and physical health, work on that. Don't worry about pretty privileges and maybe work on your beauty and then just shine. Peace
@ocomogosiay
@ocomogosiay 3 жыл бұрын
Question... 1st I love your channel...BUT why an average person listen to a pretty person's advice on learning to invest in other qualities? Just asking from the other side of the coin.
@JamalTateIsTheGreatest
@JamalTateIsTheGreatest 3 жыл бұрын
I wish pretty privilege wasn’t a thing. I think I get the opposite things I’m pretty attractive but not like drop dead like turn heads fine. I think people look at me and thing I’m mean but I’m tall light skinned and have a decent body so I think all of that together does help. But yeah it’s hard out here. I hope you’ll keep creating space!! This is amazing
@mrhvssp13
@mrhvssp13 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great discussion Obio you know you fine fine 😍😍😉 lol
@LeShangTSames
@LeShangTSames 3 жыл бұрын
But in terms of pretty privilege. How do you know that you’ve achieved whatever due to you being “pretty”. Like, are you being told, “hey i gave you this job because you are cute” or something along those lines. People do care about looks but i think pretty privilege mostly exists in the realms of media, dating, etc. Like he mentioned about the club. In the realm of medicine, education, or something more skill/knowledge based i don’t feel like being pretty comes into play. As long as you can do the work well is what matters most.
@LeShangTSames
@LeShangTSames 3 жыл бұрын
@Kimberly where’s the proof? Are the employers saying this? How do you know?
@Kurious2no
@Kurious2no 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty privilege looks very much like white privilege or wealth privilege or power privilege. People who enjoy any kind of advantage are often totally unaware that they have it. Talking about it brings about insight into yourself and understanding.
@karlprevost3984
@karlprevost3984 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Pretty privilege (and its many nuances) is something I've always wished was talked about out loud, but personally felt like I lacked the language around to do so in a healthy way. Often having felt misunderstood or targeted because of my appearance throughout my life, this was extremely reaffirming to watch. Great dialogue, perspectives, and advice shared!
@Blood11Orange
@Blood11Orange 3 жыл бұрын
Did I hear a train approaching??? 🚊👀
@ericanthony8641
@ericanthony8641 3 жыл бұрын
I like so much of what you typically do, Obio, but this one just did not resonate with me. I found it a bit shallow and generally uninteresting. Create deeper space.
@asktheglutenfreechef3072
@asktheglutenfreechef3072 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssssss
@magicworld3242
@magicworld3242 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very handsome. I have a big problem with dating. Most guys, just want to, jump into my bed. It becomes boring, when you start getting older.
@the1blkman
@the1blkman 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. I found myself kind of side-eyeing this segment and this gentleman. I can clearly see that he's attractive but I'm also getting whiffs of him probably really being a "mean-boy" a lot of the time. Let me know if i'm not getting it but aren't "mean-boy/girls" given that title because they're use to the privilege that comes with being attractive and can be stand-off'ish and reserved when they're around people that are more attractive or aren't as attractive because they may detract from their attractiveness or privelege? Sounds like what he was saying about himself. I find that genuinely kind people that are attractive don't have and don't have a need for RBF. So, cute as he is, and he (Andre) IS cute, i'm thinking people finding him hard to get to know may be because of him. Just my 2 cents.
@priincelegit1336
@priincelegit1336 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was trying to say being pretty has its cons and also pros. Being pretty you don’t get the space to explore those cons without coming off as arrogant to someone who may be less attractive who may be someone you genuinely care about. So that’s explains the jealousy etc… maybe he got stuck on that instead of addressing the privileges which do exist. However, I’m not sure where the privilege comes in exactly .
@jbjesus123
@jbjesus123 2 жыл бұрын
Jealousy is what I call it...!!!!
@loveyu2778
@loveyu2778 2 жыл бұрын
I related to this guy on so mano levels..even with the social media part...i wont post for those same reasons.. man times i have literally down played my looks, by letrina my hair grow wild, not shaving, oversized clothes, hats to cover up...i always wanted people to hear my inteligence and not focus on my looks..because, it gets old and you know thats all people see..Hard to have genuine friends that were gay because they always wanted to sexulize me..
@okaygworl
@okaygworl 3 жыл бұрын
Great conversation!
@dasreal8178
@dasreal8178 3 жыл бұрын
i got tired of ppl staring at me having pretty priv
@zusibone
@zusibone 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty privilege and Pretty Struggles are like Black women lightskin versus dark skin. Exhausting . Like the nuisance of Black versus POC or Asian hate versus anti black.. the PRETTY category must just disappear it's Exhausting
@derricklangford4725
@derricklangford4725 3 жыл бұрын
When Obio or what ever the fu'k his name is, gets finish with all that philosophical mumbo-jumbo BS, he wanna SMASH they probably did, that's the video I want to see 😆
@blackceasar2005
@blackceasar2005 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the edits for me 😂🤣
@Phoenixrising09
@Phoenixrising09 3 жыл бұрын
I’d really wish instead of doing a video on pretty privilege, you talked to someone who was fat, or someone who’s not conveniently attractive, someone who’s not on social media with thousands of followers. I think it would help balance out the content and create a better understanding on what it’s like not have that. That video would cater to more people
@BenjaminBanks615
@BenjaminBanks615 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I suffer from pretty privilege and didn’t know it. 🤔 Or Maybe I just never gave a damn to look into the “perks” I have received in comparison to some of my homeboys. I’m that guy who is always oblivious to someone flirting with me until it’s too late. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@pepboycal8179
@pepboycal8179 3 жыл бұрын
William Proffitt says a lot that is very important..Being pretty isn't just a ticket to a wonderful life full of wonderful people. I mean a lot a really attractive people have dealt with some very traumatic experiences in life partly due i not totally due to how they look.. Think about pretty little girls who become victims to sexual assaults.. And even pretty little boys..such as myself who had to deal with that growing up on so many occasions, of people saying to my mom, "your daughter is pretty and her constantly say, "no he is a boy"..wow, i need therapy..this is opening up a whole suitcase of unpacked feelings about pretty privilege. i can't tell you how many times i've been molested from a distance and up close by boys and men and women growing up.. But i really believe that it is a real thing "pretty privilege" and that it has impacts in society that creates sterotypes for us that are real to us...People expect us to be alright, but we're not always alright just because we are attractive..the maintenance will kill you..lol....but seriously this demographic has a lot to deal with good and bad...
@kasnarfburns210
@kasnarfburns210 2 жыл бұрын
Obio. I have a feeling you could lecture us A WHOLE lot on pretty privilege. Yeah, I can imagine people telling you when you were growing up you might become a model. I suffered from, I suppose, a youthful privilege -- if there's such a thing. It didn't ALWAYS feel like a privilege -- people thinking you're a schoolboy when you're a grown man. When I came to Miami, apparently people thought I was underage. I recall getting carded at clubs a few times. Some 30 years later people tell me how I was going out while being underage. I was 28 when I arrived in Miami!!! I must have gotten that from my mother. People often thought she was my girlfriend and even my wife when I was growing up. And she had me when she was 27.
@MrCwrestler
@MrCwrestler 3 жыл бұрын
Good topic! Yes pretty privilege is real, but it is not a new concept. The conversation touched on the topic, but it is much deeper and has more layers. You mentioned pros and cons, but there is more to how those categories apply. For instance there are the masculine pretty boys--who guys may sexually fantasize about in a need to be dominated, to take charge, etc and some are willing to wine, dine, keep, them, etc.; then the regular pretty boys who guys want to be around. date or have sex with, they often see them as a challenge or trophy. And the fem pretty boys who have attractive features similar to a female. And finally the pretty guy group of multiple guys who are attractive which can operate like a private group or click and they all benefit individually and collectively from privileges. Each has different appeals to different guys/people. Then there is the deeper issue of how they use their pretty status, are they good and kind with the privileges they get, do they use it in positive ways, or do they use it to manipulate and use others (or deeper hustle guys for money, etc.) to gain privileges? Then there is the other side of people using you because of your looks, seeking to use it for their own gain, popularity, privileges, etc. Or those who think because they give pretty guys privileges, because they want to be with them, no matter how nice you try to tell them you are not interested, they want to make you the bad guy, or tell others you are stuck up, shady, a user, etc. The privilege of being in the pretty boy category will often make you popular, and along with that come perks and privileges from those who want you to attend their clubs, parties, other invitations. Some handle it with a positive attitude and respect, while others don't and can give others pretty boys a bad rap!
@jamesmondsexperience
@jamesmondsexperience 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they are in a relationship because they would make a beautiful ass couple
@greatmusic1001
@greatmusic1001 3 жыл бұрын
Obio! Please do a video on your thoughts on Giovanni's Rooom when you finish reading it.
@karlitop7497
@karlitop7497 3 жыл бұрын
I've had that book for over a year and I still haven't finished it. I need to change that
@nickf6194
@nickf6194 3 жыл бұрын
Miyake Mugler!!!!
@LifeOnCoach
@LifeOnCoach 3 жыл бұрын
🤔 I knew that face looked familiar. ✌🏾
@ayandasotshisa498
@ayandasotshisa498 3 жыл бұрын
The efforts about the convesation were there but I think this topic should’ve been discussed with someone who is less attractive "according to gay society standards" and not someone who has the perks because he now looks like a victim in this whole conversation.
@asktheglutenfreechef3072
@asktheglutenfreechef3072 3 жыл бұрын
The range just was not there, C for the effort
@roddiboi87
@roddiboi87 2 жыл бұрын
It most definitely exist!
@amaniaman7818
@amaniaman7818 3 жыл бұрын
It's a real thing. Honestly it's an uncomfortable feeling
@phantomblaq1871
@phantomblaq1871 3 жыл бұрын
Well he was gorgeous from the womb...lol Obio you both in the same class.. this coming from a older person. I'm glad this video is longer than 6 minutes 😅 😂. For real the way people are on the inside makes them beautiful. You can be beautiful person on the outside and they be stank on the inside that's makes them less desirable at the end of the day.. Nice video 📹 keep creating..
@rrrs759
@rrrs759 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode... "Fall in love with you". i love that
@dextersmithbsee
@dextersmithbsee 2 жыл бұрын
That boy is beautiful!!
@Smoothoperator89
@Smoothoperator89 2 жыл бұрын
The HOST didnt touch bases on the True definition and Attributes of the PRETTY PRIVILEGE. He needs to Study the ART of Interviewing and capturing pin poins and controlling the Narratives. LEAD the Topic and Redirect the Individual when they are carrying off on a Tangent.
@masterofkoin8428
@masterofkoin8428 3 жыл бұрын
For the people in the comments that don't fall in the category of having "pretty privilege", you should work on having "paid privilege". Being paid so much to the point you make pretty people do whatever you want them to do. Besides, there are more people in the world that are "pretty" than people who are SERIOUSLY paid.
@mrfunky1768
@mrfunky1768 3 жыл бұрын
Nikka...you will look BEDDA! You with a beard/grey in it sheeeet!!!!
@JelaniTime
@JelaniTime 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me so much
@BoyTheBlack
@BoyTheBlack 3 жыл бұрын
LOL... I think this whole topic is soooo ridiculous....I really didn't watch because it sounded so stupid, but gay guys are are just too over the top with looks...Points 1 through 10, just because you are a pretty gay man does not guarantee you 100K a year...and trust, once you pass 25, those looks start to fade really quickly (unless you live in ATL)...only women truly have a pretty privilege because they will marry a really ugly man if he has the right amount of money...guys just don't do that for other guys at all (no matter how good he looks)...
@terrellewilliams1230
@terrellewilliams1230 3 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting
@DoveDaniels
@DoveDaniels 3 жыл бұрын
a really nice segment....
@Blood11Orange
@Blood11Orange 3 жыл бұрын
Obio, so you really didn't link his social too?
@TheAlfredPlatform
@TheAlfredPlatform 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@xamanbro826
@xamanbro826 3 жыл бұрын
You say you want to 40 when you’re 40. What does “40” look like?
@kevindivo6589
@kevindivo6589 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend was very very attractive and they always thought we were hooking up what having sex but we were just friends we never had sex he would just really really good friends and he was really really good looking
@the_elyphant
@the_elyphant 3 жыл бұрын
This particular space is actually needed for the people that can relate. Y'all chill in these comments.
@juniorowusu7799
@juniorowusu7799 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but what’s his @ ? Lol
@nashnyabe7470
@nashnyabe7470 3 жыл бұрын
kinda selfish to not share his ig
@jasperdilincoln2341
@jasperdilincoln2341 3 жыл бұрын
Whats his IG? for the 14th time 😄
@kevenG35
@kevenG35 3 жыл бұрын
these two....
@LifeOnCoach
@LifeOnCoach 3 жыл бұрын
✌🏾
@johnedmonson5298
@johnedmonson5298 3 жыл бұрын
Great video u need to show both side and do one big men and little men.
@Strylover
@Strylover 2 жыл бұрын
🙂
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