S2E3. a black gay man and a white gay man having a racial conversation.

[@20000dino]

As a white guy dating a black guy, one of the reasons our relationship works is because we're very open and respectful about how different our experiences are, and in which ways they overlap. I listen to him, I support him, I'm his friend, and I never assume that I know everything. And if I do a mistake, I apologize, we talk about it, and I become better for it. And I always hold myself accountable (like everyone should, whatever your race is).

[@ngarumurray]

I hope he also hold himself accountable too. Even as someone who is racialized as black I aspire to be accountable for my own actions.

[@PurJesani]

And that’s a beautiful thing!!

[@Ti-hp8eb]

Thank you for this. I wish everyone would understand the point as perfectly as you summarized it for us. If I knew you, I would hug you. Just know, you have my face and my heart smiling brighter than the sun.

[@starbrand3726]

This was a great conversation. We really need to address issues like this. The White guy brought up a fantastic point. Some Black men feel guilty for being attracted to White men. Because there is a negative stereotype of selling out. And there's also a guilt for White men being attractive to Black men. This is due to the concept of fetishizing.

[@jays-move8803]

If you are attracted TO A WHITE MAN that is very different than being attracted TO WHITE MEN. White people are not a monolith. To say "I am attracted to white men" shows you have a problem or a superiority-inferiority complex, or something. I'm not a doctor hahaha

[@sydneyreid7401]

Hmm truth I'm just now getting into this

[@Diz_27]

I have to agree and it's part of my mindset now... I no longer will get with a yt dude because I got fetishized so much plus when they got mad the n-word definitely comes out smh

[@starbrand3726]

@@Diz_27 Sadly, the four or five White guys I've been with were... absolutely terrible in bed. The Black and Latino guys I've been with weren't just better, they were 100 times better. So my decision was easy. 😋

[@dabigd1860]

@Star Brand Why would white men feel "guilty" for being attracted to black men?

[@xamanbro826]

Jake made a good point at 13:55. Black people having their own spaces is a “beautiful thing.” There isn’t always a need to integrate spaces when it can mitigate culture. Black gay men are allowing to be comfortable in predominantly Black spaces-it’s simply a matter of culture. Cultures and ethnic groups all around the world embrace and love within their own culture. Not every aspect of America needs to be a melting pot. Integration is good and necessary, but not when it takes away from the authenticity of Black culture.

[@andyd3447]

Very awkward since this cant be said with white men. If they want a white space its automatically racist....

[@xamanbro826]

@@andyd3447 Well, most spaces are already White. Whites are the majority. They already have “White space” privilege.

[@andyd3447]

@@xamanbro826 Theres no such thing as "white space privelege" you just made that up. Also segregation is illegal. So once again, why is it not okay for white gays to say that they want a space for only whites?

[@xamanbro826]

@@andyd3447 Putting a sign out saying “White’s Only” is illegal. Creating a space that White people own and dominate is not. White people don’t have to create White spaces because historically they’ve always held White spaces. For example: the NAACP exists because Blacks were treated unfairly because they were Black. White people were not treated unfairly because they were White, therefore, there is no White NAACP (ostensibly…).

[@andyd3447]

@@xamanbro826 Thats ironic because if any other race besides black people created a space for themselves and didnt allow black people to join they would be considered racist. Or if a black person says they only date black men then its okay but if a white person says they only date white people its racist? why are black people the only ones who are allowed to have a preference?

[@sivuyilemtsi9840]

The white guy was very intelligent and very mature. Not once did he appear to be defensive in his answers and or pretend to know everything and what is best for everyone, which is what you get from many white people who claim to be our allies. He is open to learning and be corrected without taking it as a personal attack on himself as a person. Really enjoyed listening to this conversation.

[@tom4wlt]

To be "corrected"? What do you mean by "corrected"? What did he do? You people are insane.

[@jaylinbenno8075]

@@tom4wlt who is “you people”? Be specific. Coward.

[@Thelonementalfighter]

@@tom4wlt “You People?” Sir come on now

[@tom4wlt]

@@Thelonementalfighter Ok, you sir are insane. Better?

[@acos48]

We definitely need more personal, honest conversations like this one! I would love to see both of you come back and talk some more!!

[@corneliuswhite5139]

As a former Atlanta resident, I saw the segregation firsthand. Only toward the end (almost 20 years ago), did I see a trickling of White gays in Black spaces, but DEFINITELY there were a LOT of spaces Black gays weren't welcomed. The feeling was intense (Ex: The now defunct Hotlanta River Expo, and yes Blake's). As to the feeling of Black Gays "not needing to integrate," we continually explain that this societal structure was only developed because Black Gays weren't welcomed in any other space BUT our own, and therefore HAD to create our own spaces or simply remain marginalized. This happened all across the country. Back in the day if you were traveling, you pretty much had to use a Damron guide (an equivalent to the Green Book for Gay men), to find where Black gay men were welcomed or accepted. Now I guess you just use an app and swipe right or left, but in the word's of Forrest Gump's mother, "...You never know what you're gonna get." 😏

[@DTMyles]

Atlanta is terrible! I went there to visit my brother last summer. While there, he took me to Blake's. I'm from NYC and clearly had a different vibe and style. I ordered a Goose and soda and paid with my Platinum AMEX and the bartender was all over me. (I always pay with my AMEX because I can dispute charges easily if needed.) Another group of black guys came in and they didn't have that vibe and ordered beers. He treated them very poorly. I left after I saw that and complained to management. We went to another bar and it was the same. We were treated well, but other black men were not. I will not patronize a place that treats me differently because of my perceived wealth.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

@@DTMyles I think both sides needs to have this Convo because there's biases on both sides

[@geoffreyselvage1673]

@@DTMyles You've perfectly described Blake's. Ordering drinks WB is definitely going to take a minute. Classist too, because their attitude will change on a dime when they recognize your "friend" group.

[@grayscar05]

Black gay men are definitely welcomed in white spaces if they allow themselves to be "BBC dildos" or behavior is more white passing.

[@milesbell2580]

I need you to make a KZbin video covering this. It sounds like you experienced a lot of history

[@Kevynmorgan]

Black Americans and Africans need a racial conversation too

[@JP-hj1il]

plenty of those conversations. most folks are not in those spaces is the issue.

[@rellenoz]

YES

[@Nyckidd]

That's a lot to unpack

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

Say it louder for those at the back

[@daddygrace253]

Sorry, I am not into African men unless they're from Algeria, Egypt, Libya, and Morocco. I am not attracted to very dark skin men with Negroid features from countries like Nigeria.

[@dstarks86]

‘What I want from white people is to know when to sit it out’ that’s it. That’s the video we needed.

[@daddygrace253]

Amen......

[@itsnatemate7697]

Period!!

[@spikefivefivefive]

Who is "we"?

[@sydneyreid7401]

Love it already

[@danielswarovski6462]

💯 🎤 👏🏾 drop

[@dallastyree5079]

This was great!!!! Two mature men expressing their experiences. I want more friends like this! ❤️

[@kamronhood9403]

Omg Obio this is wtf the lgbt community needs man!❤️❤️❤️

[@UnCommonScentz]

Obio, your puppy was tryin to HAVE Jake, at all costs! SKSKSKKSSKKS!

[@billybatson3810]

I prayed before watching this. I didn't know if this was going to be a serious unpacking of race and segregation within the gay community. I'm glad that I did-you both were very honest and transparent.

[@k.simmons862]

Conversations like this are needed. Shows me that though we are apart, some things may be vastly different, but many things are the same. I live here in Atlanta and it’s very heartbreaking seeing the divide and like the young man said, on the same street. We HAVE to do better!

[@sonofhollywood2648]

The only reason to be heartbroken is if you need white validation. There are far too many attractive Black Men in Atlanta to be "heartbroken" over racist basic white boys who don't want you. Have some pride in yourself.

[@zanthus7]

We have more things in common than not. Sometimes it takes a monster or some type of major threat to make us see what's important and how much we are alike.

[@kev2020]

This was great. My partner of 7 years is white and we still have moments where we have to discuss things that I wouldn't have to with a Black partner. He's now aware of the waiter/hotel clerk who only speaks to him or hands him the check despite me having my card out. He corrects the customers who approach us and tell me that they need help once I finish assisting him. He had to check himself a few times for placing me in situations that I lacked the privilege to get out of. I still feel guilty when Black men tell me that I'm not pro Black. I've seen BM get a great job and make a goal of dating outside of the Black community in order to "level up". I've dated every color under the sun and just happened to land here.

[@zaviermcf.5302]

Great conversation that definitely could have gone further in so many ways. There are certainly differences in the way Black gay men operate and show attraction to one another compared to non-Black gay men in their spaces. When Jake mentioned being eye-r*ped in certain scenarios, I know exactly what he means; Men (in my experience, typically older) will stare and/or follow you around bars for your attention or to express attraction instead of just saying 'Hello.' It's one of the most uncomfortable experiences I've had personally. But also, there's more conversation for a future episode to discuss the consumption of and standards toward femininity. Jake was right on the ball when he said that often we don't mind femininity when it's in a more masculine, muscular build but it's laughable and/or hated when it exists in bodies that are fat or twink-ish/skinny.

[@billyjohn7846]

I've dated more white men than black however never shy'd away from my blackness around them. AND TRUST ME... My first white boyfriend was as white as they come. From what he liked to how he talked and dressed, but absolutely loved I was unapologetically "BLACK" around him and vice versa. Plot twist, we're back together again after a nearly 5-year on and off relationship 💖 PS. He never once tried to act black around me

[@Kala_S]

This is quickly becoming one of my fav podcasts

[@jouleonyx3110]

I appreciate the fact that you even had this conversation the only issue I have is that the conversation was all over the place. Jake gets major props for being forthcoming and open about his experiences in the gay community when it came to race, he's an attractive white guy I can see being in a relationship with a black guy, not saying he's attractive because he's white he's an attractive guy who happens to be white.

[@corneliuswhite5139]

I too felt the discussion was all over the place. I guess I was so elated to see the conversation that I failed to mention it.

[@jouleonyx3110]

@@corneliuswhite5139 not to knock Obies hustle his interviewing and editing skills can stand to be improved upon. A for effort though.

[@jouleonyx3110]

@CJ Dafoe Are you racist towards People of Color Black Asian Latino Arab and so on…. If yes you are if not then don’t worry about it.

[@cosettapessa6417]

@CJ Dafoe for woketards yes. Normal people no.

[@jays-move8803]

He could only be in a relationship with a black guy if a black guy wanted to be in a relationship with him. That's unrelated to anything about him, looks, dress, attitude, etc.

[@MegaDanceaholic]

this episode was absolutely amazing i didn't expect it to be so fruitful to watch just because i have no interest in building community with whites nor including them but its cool to hear a "white ally" speak about what he experiences.

[@afroking4330]

Blacks should unite and build with our own no interest in making "friends" with other races that persecute and envy us

[@MegaDanceaholic]

@@afroking4330 i agree

[@ollieatom]

I find this conversation incredibly refreshing--great work Obio and Jake! Regarding Black spaces, I've noticed in cities like Atlanta, Chicago, and D.C., the gay spaces are either predominately Black or predominately White. And despite the external appearance of racist separatism, there is a quality of cultural appreciation and beauty found in especially Black spaces. All the best, Obio!

[@delancefortson7376]

Great convo! And….Obio…your dog….it hunches people! Every episode dust far, lil dusty gets his hump on! 😂😂😂

[@belamoure]

Perro amoroso for sure!

[@trehen3681]

This was good! The conversation hit great points. It was great to listen to different perspectives from these guys

[@originalmind9792]

We need more conversations like this🙌🏾Just more focused and much more in depth. Real conversations about race dynamics in the USA really don't begin until folks start to feel uncomfortable.

[@NickiD203]

They way he looked him up and down “I dress real queer” 😭😭💀

[@lawrencebaker2318]

First time viewer. Interesting conversation. I am glad that your generation is having these conversations, mine (sadly) did not. We should have. Maybe things would be a bit better for everyone. Hopefully, you having them now will help the next generations.

[@daddygrace253]

If we're all are not dead from the destruction of this earth. We're living in critical times.

[@dabigd1860]

@Lawrence Baker As a black gay man, now in my 40s 😱😱😱 (Lol, but i still look like i am in my early 30s) what i have noticed, is that, despite what you see and hear on CNN and MSNBC, the younger gay community seems to be more prejudiced, elitist, or 'selective' than the older generation of white gays. The younger white gay community today seems to be very exclusionary toward black gay men of any age, body type, educational level, skin tone. They are not as accepting as the media would have one believe. I have found the the generation of white gay men that grew up in civil rights era or even in the 70s are more accepting or welcoming toward black gay males of any age.

[@daddygrace253]

@@dabigd1860 You might be right. I am 67 years old and these younger white gay males are so darn racist and elitist.

[@ericfreshcorn3590]

@@dabigd1860 i,m a Single White Gay Man Are You Interested

[@bookertable]

It’s all so interesting- I’m white, my husband’s black and we’ve been together 30 years, and I still learn new things about him-

[@drag-ha]

I have a white gay co worker and most of the employees where we work are black. We used to be friends until I saw his gaslighting ways🤣 anyway He asks the same questions to all the black employees and it drives me up the wall. He has no real concern for black issues and only ask certain questions for the sake of conversation and to try to relate to new employees. I realized it was performative when I talked to a few employees and realized he uses the same exact expressions (trying to provoke a certain emotion to make what he is about to say seem harmless) right before asking the same questions he has already asked a million times. Like if you actually cared you would have looked it up and been able to have actual conversations about it instead of breezing over it. He doesn’t have any black friends or interact with black people outside of work and I think that’s also another thing that irritates me. You don’t care sthu. I could only imagine what he goes back and tell all his none black friends about black people. Truly sickening.

[@tw4943]

I dont associate nor date them. History has shown not trust them, and I dont

[@ajgivens5525]

Such a good conversation 👍🏾

[@AC-nx2mr]

ohio i legit love you yo i love how your having these conversations . Especially in our community , it means the WORLD please keep doing your thing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@chlsaust9018]

GAY OR STRAIGHT, AA’s must always be on guard no matter. They will always stick to their own, and rightly so. So regardless if you are in an interracial relationship (someone ) if not the partner, the family or friends of the partner will always say something that will result in one of you feeling some type of way. This conversation adds validation to the content of this opinion.

[@KnijMagz]

I feel like this needs a part 2, it was a great way to create some space to start having an even deeper interaction... Great video though!

[@AntoinneBarnes]

Obio, i'm so impressed that you're having this subject!! well done my friend!!

[@vbflyboy]

A lot of great points. I really appreciate these videos so much. Thank you!

[@kendrickdcarter871]

I’m from Atlanta. I’ve lived in NYC for 20 years. But I started to mingle in gay spaces around 18 (while in Atlanta). But I definitely could feel a sub-cultural divide within the gay community. Obviously. I am glad i had the experience of “coming of gay” in NYC. But its America so there are definitely racial, toxic masculinity, and gender issues for gays everywhere. Subscribed.

[@biranemarceldiagne9464]

This was a great video.. i love that you guys dare to talk about the unsaid in the gay community.

[@mikelobb8849]

Excellent conversation. Period. I think we need more talking between African American guys and white guys in the LGBTQ community.

[@zanthus7]

In general, people are just too damn small-minded, shallow, and quick to judge over the smallest unimportant things. If there is a gathering space for all to come and enjoy, there are going to be those who do not feel welcomed because of judgements or something that doesn't matter and this will lead to separations. First, there will be race separations: Blacks, Whites, Latin, Asian, etc. Then, from the first separaton, there will be sexuality separations: straight, gay, bi, etc. Next, from the second separation, there will be another race separation within the sexuality separation. And the separations will continue until you ask, when will this craziness end? Answer: when there are no more people.

[@Kenstopable77]

Idk but something bought me here. And btw that look 👀 you gave I saw that lol

[@timothymoore6341]

I will always be black first! Sexuality is secondary! The world sees us as black first. We are the most hated in America and on earth! People can date who they like, but I don't see how us being with white men is a step up for us, when it's really not. White men don't feel that way about us, they see us as a step down. But to each his own. Black men have to stick together and support and uplift each other.

[@ii954]

@@CanisXYZ the systems harming (black) Africans are an extension of the same systems harming us here. It’s colonialism, and gentrification, and oppression from outside (mostly white) sources.

[@deku3i]

It would be interesting to see a gay trans man on here, would be a great conversation starter. Great Video! we need more people like you.

[@benjaminreyes3624]

A trans man can't be gay. They are straight women wanting to look like a man. Biological males who are attracted to biological males are gay. A penis in a vagina is straight sex

[@TexasBestGamer]

Why a trans man?

[@deku3i]

@@TexasBestGamer The gay community is centered around white-gay-cis men & and it’s important to hear perspectives from black, asian, trans gay men.

[@DDominoGeronimo]

@@TexasBestGamer why not?

[@jones2277]

why not just have a straight woman?

[@NTJo_1]

Great interview. More if this please. You should have a part two

[@jonhinson5701]

Homophobia is more blatant in these conversations whereas people wrap their racism up in a way they don't think they can perceived as racist but it is obvious to anyone with a brain.

[@pppexplorer]

Obio and Jake - Great conversation! 👍🏽 Obio - Your dog is cute, but please don't let the dog be crawling all over the guest. I saw this happen in the previous 2 episodes in this season (which I am enjoying so far) and it was a little cringey.😁😀 Out of politeness, the guests may feel awkward to ask you to remove the dog off of them, even if they like dogs.

[@iamsirjove]

unnecessary comment

[@TheDeal007]

@@iamsirjove No... the comment was very necessary. Out of respect for your guest, you should not have your animals bothering them, especially in this situation where you are trying to create a professional atmosphere; it can become a distraction and take away from the conversation. Additionally, not everyone enjoys dogs, cats, etc. and might even be allergic. Personally, I hate it when you visit someone and their animals are jumping all over you, getting lots of hair all over your clothes, constantly barking and biting and the host looks on as if there isn't anything wrong. Treat your guests better, please.

[@corneliuswhite5139]

Yeah, I agree.

[@kaboomzzz]

It was fine until the dog started trying to hump his arm. Lol low key distracting for such an important conversation. But I love dogs tho.

[@melglenn8871]

More race conversations need to be had.

[@ArtTheSinger]

What other race topic you’ll like to hear? What’s your race? If you’ll like to share.

[@melglenn8871]

@@ArtTheSinger Mixed couples (black&white)...there background..how do they handle racial bias.Btw, I'm black mature male from Chicago.

[@Everything_Ju]

That look at 8:25 almost made me spit out my morning tea 😂😂😂

[@siyabongahlongwane637]

😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹I wasn’t the only one who saw that

[@trinidadtazi]

Glad this popped up on my recommendations, enjoyed this video !

[@RS-dm4yo]

I like these videos, but the feedback is to talk slower. Talking to friends outside of a video taping is different than talking for TV or film. I know this from experience as when I first started working in TV production as on-air talent I was talking way too fast for it. You really have to slow it way down. It really feels like you're talking in slow motion, but to the viewer watching the video, it will be right on point. I say this as there are many points in the video where I didn't understand what was being said, but I probably would if I were in the same room. Hard to explain, but talking for film/TV is different than talking in-person.

[@pylchott9864]

Black begs to white for human recognition, inclusion and decency because black and white have nothing to do with race. It's all a social hierarchy, legal status and class assignation where white is superior and godly, while black connotes everything that's inherently wrong and negative. This holds true even in African languages, and you cannot put a positive spin on a word used to dehumanize and denigrate people. This is also why I'm very quick to correct anyone who labels me as "queer" which is synonymous with weird, skew, bizarre, oblique etc. as if there's something inherently wrong with me for not finding women attractive. Sure, other people can think that, but I don't have to embrace it as my identity. People always look at me like I have two heads whenever I say I'm not queer and that I'm simply homosexual.

[@Dr_KenJ]

This video!!! I needed this conversation!

[@whateverusay25]

Great convo. It is tough to tell if white guys are gay. After 3drinka most are down. I feel they are able to be more… fluent with their sexual experiences. Blacks still have a long way to go when it comes to our revolution and how we see and accept gays.

[@RJ25255]

Not after 3 drinks! But that's so true! I have a few straight white buddies from high school. Still till this day once they get tipsy anything goes with them 😆

[@mcebomaziya3299]

wOO. This was a cool conversation as someone who may be side-eyeing white men. It's kind of corney - but it really is about the connection you have with that person and how they validate your blackness.

[@Michael-ww4wl]

A beautiful conversation❤

[@stuartwhite8939]

Nope! 3 min in and I realized I’m not ready for this conversation. Imma still subscribe to your channel tho!

[@icarrus4u]

More of this please! Great conversation and very insightful. It would be interesting to have a larger panel with more diverse voices...

[@So.avant.garde1]

Great conversation. I’ve learned some things about how some in the white race can view things, so thank you. Race or Multi-race relationships friend or otherwise have not been limited by race or culture in my experiences. Or at least I didn’t think so from my perspective. But now I’m wondering how my other race counterparts feel / felt. Now I see ways of furthering the depth of my relationships by having these types of conversations with them. How cool 😎 Also, Jake Jones is freaking 🔥.

[@Tee-up7fo]

I saw the thumbnail and CACKLED 💀💀💀💀

[@awoFalase]

There is nothing wrong with groups of people having their own spaces, it's healthy thing. Shared spaces are also great because there is another level of diversity that gets added and the ability to expand ones perspective.The problems that were raised are rooted in the racist culture that is the US. Just because you are part of a sub group doesn't mean you are exempt from the larger reality that every one deals with in their own experiences. For me there is no either or, there is only the experiences that one has as well as the collective experiences of a group or people which are very real. Trust has been lost in this country having a shared gay label doesn't erase that. Being willing to look at people as individuals and not throw everyone in a group is key to bringing about transformation. Also being able to see the suffering that a group experiences and not ignore it because it doesn't have a direct impact is also key. Lastly DL behavior is not exclusive to the Black community it has just been perpetuated in various media platforms that it is solely a black people issue.

[@oeleveoleve.7562]

i am a cuban guy. living in the states for more than 25 years. living in miami beach. when i was living in havana i had several sex encounters with cuban black guys,,,, only 2 of them in a realtionshio.... the rest one night stand. always liked black guys likes gays or straight... but had from several races (we have a multi racial men and women in cuba)... arriving here understood (1986) what difficult was to keep in touch with black american, with anglo saxon , and the rest of etnicities here, but miami was, in those days so cuban city. and then i started a kind of sex relation with a cuban black... nothing more that is....up to his death .. he got married during thesse years, had family but always looked for me.... we did a gay-straight life. even though i had sex with several men gay or straight. sometimes several times sometimes one night stand, this is why i really understand that that black gay and white gays guys find so difficult to kkep a realtion with each other, i couldent was a latin guy....

[@MrPunchthru2dub]

Whew, started spicy !

[@brianhaynescopeland3208]

This was a learning episode. Keep-up your great content video.👍🏾1000%

[@chrisstapleton7317]

Growing up in St. Louis City, I really appreciated being accepted in Black only spaces and being sponsored by my chosen black family. Now the younger generation (any race) doesn't respect older people or trust their judgement. (Ok Boomer) That has made being in certain spaces (ie. LGBTQIA+2 pride events, quinceaneras, cookouts) confrontational. Activism is a young person's game. I need my peace. ✌️ Ain't you tired Miss Hilly? Ain't you tired?

[@byKylan]

On 10th, Blake’s, & X the types of music influences the segregation a ton. I’d rather be tipsy singing along to Fantasia and Keyshia Cole over Taylor Swift.

[@tw4943]

THAT PART. Nothing about that space feels safe to me

[@kjdnyhmghfvb]

Jakes Whole Body at 15:35-15:47 - *Who Said Dance?!?* *I'm ready to pull shapes! Always!* (and that's on Clyde Langer)

[@ensabahnur3104]

Shout out to Sarah Jane Adventures...may she rest in peace

[@EP-nk5wm]

5:10 Facts, sometimes it was tough working at A&F. Nothing glamorous about it. Always felt like a token.

[@KevinETaylor]

DOUBT OF YOUR INTENTIONS. #BOOOOOOOOOM We need to unpack that like a Russian doll.

[@DarrickDraper]

Thank you for this! Subscribed.

[@jahipalmer8782]

Yes. I'm here for these conversations.

[@jamiefordx]

THIs was really insightful!!!

[@mthrofzion1]

This was an incredible interview! 🫀

[@priincelegit1336]

I don’t quite understand how a flamboyant white man appearing more flamboyant takes away from the privilege. I think from my perspective they are still more privileged. Maybe the separation from heterosexual white men makes them less accepted but I can’t see them being less privileged in that regard.

[@tw4943]

At all because they still and always will be White

[@UnCommonScentz]

@8:24 Whoever did this zoom in edit, deserves a fkn MEDAL!

[@gokidd2242]

why am i distracted by how poised and attractive these two men are?

[@THESHERI1]

I'm white and I have never in my life felt "privilege" in fact my boss is a black guy.

[@Kate-it7cn]

Working ‘twice as hard” is such a joke ( lie.) 😂

[@DDJR2023]

I have so much to say about this conversation. But it needs to be had again with a moderator.

[@MatthiasHamilton]

um someone get mr jones a KZbin channel... so articulate and Astute.. Loved it!

[@keeganthorpe]

Did we join the video in the middle of the conversation?

[@reallyitsjackiev.meadows7578]

Really great conversation! 👌🏿💯👍🏿

[@BrotherEDEN]

Who's puppy is that ... if it's Obio., why would he risk a good flow with that constant distraction? I'm leaving without really getting to listen because I'm aware of the puppy, even when he's not on screen.

[@N3SS_Li]

Loved It! 😍

[@ldc4817]

“The shirt “ 😂

[@isaiahnxsh]

Thank you.

[@likewaterforcoffee1570]

If I were in a relationship with a beautiful black man I would be his ally and his friend and fight against racism hand in hand with him. I only use the inclusive pride flag now because I want BIPOC to know I love them and I support them fully.

[@ScribblebytesWorldwide]

For me, race is a socio-political construct and if people believe in race you're practically mentally ill (its how we were raised) so I don't have any issues with that. I do find these conversations fascinating though to see what is going on in the world.

[@kimakotrotman6860]

This is so triggering as to what it right to share. But it is an important discussion to have.

[@denniscalhoun4836]

This was great ❣️

[@MikeOh99]

Can we get a Part 2?

[@davidemerald7690]

I had to watch this video twice. The conversation was just that good🔥🔥.thumbs up obio💪you one of the few black youtubers who give us good quality content 👌

[@heyrobertcarter1]

Solid Solid solid episode

[@nyclv04]

Loved it!

[@grayscar05]

Good conversation. I also have a harder time distinguishing between straight and gay white men .... both tend to be more on the effeminate/suspect side compared to black men.

[@jbjesus123]

People are people; just wish that it isn't an issue in race...

[@antwangolden939]

Great conversation love it ❤️ 😍 !!!

[@emmanuelkarbiah4593]

This was a great conversation

[@thekajalflaneur]

Thankyou so much for this. I am trying to understand and explore what my desires mean for people of colour and seeing them as "intellectual beings" (as the white gentleman says) rather than fetishist. My city is largely white but has a large South Asian and African diaspora (Melbourne, Australia). I am trying to make music, art, writing about the experiences of myself but also of my friends who are largely non-white, and inspire each other to unmask pretensions, clarify misinterpretation and reveal the double standards are play in the landscapes of desire within the queer labyrinthine world. But you can't escape your whiteness, /Nonwhitness as they said, but you can modulate your queerness. I have found perhaps because of my radical femme-masc queerness I have created a kind of elective affinity with poc people, as there is seemingly more openness to actual diversity than in the majority white spaces. Although of course, I feel like an intrude into non white spaces (well in fact, also in white spaces tbh). But I am trying hard to understand, to learn about my own position relative to those around me that I love and desire. Thankyou for reading.

[@ngarumurray]

No you don't intrude. If they have accepted you continue to build on that and thank you for opening up a space for them to be themselves around you. And if they genuinely love you there is room for both error and growth.

[@asiahicks7827]

This is a great conversation💞

[@truerthanyouknow9456]

Really your profiles are handsome, but we we need you to look at us directly more often.

[@braxtonlebron]

I just want to comment on the look of the clothes after he pretended that he does not dress white... I had to pick myself up off the floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sydneyreid7401]

I love this Convo

[@karenssonmjw]

This Was Amazing Conversation