S4 TIER LIST: Which is the BEST DPS Spec?

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[@ebrooks2k15]

0:20 havoc 1:40 destro 2:44 augmentation 4:19 demon 5:33 outlaw 6:42 shadow 7:48 assassin 8:38 boom 10:21 fire 12:04 beast 13:09 afflication 13:51 enhance 15:10 frost 16:26 retribution 17:16 feral 18:05 subtlety 19:05 survival 20:20 arcane 21:12 arms 22:39 fury 23:33 elemental 25:04 marksmanship 26:16 wind 27:35 devistation 29:03 death knights

[@Kujra]

Show this man more love

[@maskn7208]

Been really enjoying your s4 videos man keep it up

[@Draevon68]

Just have to laugh at the people who watch tier list videos and then feel the need to leave comments about how worthless tier list videos are. If you hate them, don’t watch them and don’t waste our time crying about them. Thank you for the video Vesp. This gives me good information to consider. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos.

[@ristuksenvittu]

I basically just wanted to hear some thoughts on the spec i play, only to realize this guy probably has not played it at all. But yes, he is right, it's very mid-tier spec, even more so with season 3 set bonuses.

[@ZulousOG]

Bnager video mate, liking the new set up! Youve got some opinions, maybe lay off the creatine next time before doing a tier list!

[@Imutes-pg8xb]

Hello! I'm returning to WoW; the last time I played was during Legion, so all my characters are currently level 50. I'm looking for a frantic and fun class that doesn't require much idle waiting (no downtime, which bores me a lot) or long casting times. That's why I usually play melee classes. What would you recommend?

[@VesperalTV]

Fury and Outlaw sound like great pickups for you

[@JeventesTV]

Arms Meta.

[@Robertdqwqdwqwdqdw]

Hm, thought you said in stream that they should only go up a tier, not meta.

[@olschriff2921]

Don´t think fury is this low... mid to high b-tier i think in m+... But Arms is to good in s4 because of mass aoe and massive pulls we warrior players know that... arms is at least a-tier because auf lack of utility and survivability... but in pure dps a+ to s-tier!

[@WorstYTChannel]

I haven’t played on PTR but wouldn’t the free blasphemy infernals mess up the stun rotation the ulduar snake boss?

[@tanasovpetrut2673]

worst case scenario u pop a rain next to boss

[@Maximo-Maximus]

I am really split between Destrolock and Fire Mage for this season. Which do you all recommend? I have played both and enjoy them equally

[@Idkidkidkidk456]

if you play higher keys then mage is pretty nice to pug as cause they are always looked for. Both have the same weakness in lower keys and with bad tanks. So i would say Fire mage cause you can also go flamestrike for more overall dmg or frost and arcane with both are realy realy good. Frost overall dmg is realy high from what iv seen and arcane is way better then in this vid expected imo. People just dont play it cause fire is even better. I watched some of the good mages playing arcane in break the meta and the dmg was absurd at points^^

[@Maximo-Maximus]

@@Idkidkidkidk456 Thanks for the advice! Will definitely go fmage this time around 😊

[@dabeachbum3210]

Looks like I need to learn destro. Just picked up a lock a few weeks ago and started in demon. Looks like that was a mistake lol. All my toons are B tier except I have to learn fire for my mage. Then I’ll have 2 S tier. Poor poor poor Fury Warrior with leggo 😢

[@dgiras13]

demo is better at pugging M+, one pack two pack pulls does more dmg, but when in coordnated group with big pulls, destro pulls ahead.

[@kingtut8367]

You dont wanna play fury anyways. Warrior is the most garbage class in the game. They literally bring nothing to the table. No brez, hero, dispell, hard cc, useless. Destro easy af nuff said. Fire mage is simple but takes a toooon of practice to get your timing right with buttons

[@meurumtrain4747]

@@kingtut8367oh come on warrior is a great class(just isn’t meta)

[@quur7448]

Absolutly not. Destru is only that good and meta, if you have a very well coordinated group. Demo is much more better in pug groups. As demo you have a awesome overall dmg profile.

[@olschriff2921]

Destro is a fucking boring spec and u dont need really skill to master it... stay on demo bro! I am a fury/arms warri and a ret paly player too! I test demo the last two weeks and its a fucking nice designed class-spec and so much fun to play! Master demo and u will be happy in S4! I will 100% play demo as an alt!

[@AD690smcr]

This "meta" is different to the pug meta at +20ish that most people are doing as a weekly. Good luck playing destro with pug tanks doing wonky as fuck pulls

[@JacobB-kr5em]

Demo is likely gonna be better than destro for movement and survivability purposes it also gets access to more stuns than destro.. I don’t think he plays lock really and is just looking at the numbers destro is pulling in the 2 dungeons.

[@bencehodi8119]

⁠@@JacobB-kr5em Destro has an aoe micro stun every 8-10 seconds which has no dr. Maybe you are the one who don’t play warlock.

[@ryeno7192]

@@JacobB-kr5em He DOES play alot of lock.. Vesp been pumping on the PTR as destro also in pug grps... As of now: even If the tank pulls 3/4 mobs ur still outdamaging most other classes with just keeping immolate up and spamming RoFs, they're stoopid strong right now.

[@brice9013]

@@JacobB-kr5emwildly underestimating destro damage. Yes if the mobs are moving too much ur damage will be lower but they still pump

[@Asag321]

Well they exactly doing that on PTR and destro tops the meter.

[@KhandeeTV]

I've been waiting for this...I am not sure it helped me though. Waffling back and forth between Druid and Shaman. Maybe I dont' want to heal in raid and that would make my decision much easier.

[@jeffreypenkoff6178]

Me and one of my cohealers play rdru and rsham respectively, and both of us are having a blast this season fwiw

[@LORDKINGSTEIN14]

Bm dmg is crazy gotta put A tire the utililisnt really needed with a vdh

[@technolibra]

how about raids?

[@ebe84]

How high would you guys rate Havoc, if your groip don’t have a Vengance DH tank?

[@swarthypants]

If casters are meta DPS and tank isn't VDH would definitely pin Havoc as the meta melee spec.

[@kimzeysmith6704]

im mian ret pally and gonna be this season to cba change class and grind for gear! and i agree it lacking ST but aoe is solid

[@Electronicstyle]

cooles Video :-)

[@tomothered]

What tier would you put MM on damage alone?

[@a.a.6464]

Good question!

[@VesperalTV]

A probably

[@plutobottles8561]

ATM its the top dps, although its still early.

[@bilbobaggins7095]

The best Mage I've seen last season was arcane. He blew everyone out by miles..was he a god?

[@gregsimard-ol1hr]

I mained ret pally this season after listening to every creator say theyre B tier. Meta changed now Im 3730 season title. tiers lists are bad because blizz always changes things

[@cn-cz3nc]

i been playing evoker but i thnk i have decided to go spriest for season4 since with all the ways we will have to get gear if you get the real bis on a spriest it will do so much fuckin dmg

[@jacktihs2963]

Still playing SV hunter :-)

[@metalmach1ne748]

Maining holy pala arms warr and blood DK yolo

[@JaceMazama]

why cant I stop clicking on tier lists

[@Wenshenx]

i literally wasted season 3 trying every spec in the game because of tier lists and ended up not knowing which class is fun or for me anymore

[@brice9013]

@@Wenshenxthe strongest class is the most fun for me, im a sl*t

[@nucleartickz]

because anxiety boss is gnawing at you today :p since its almost time !

[@a.a.6464]

I just want big numbers. A easy class thats all i want. Which class is it?

[@TheChrillexx]

Ret

[@Balloonbot]

Marksmanship for ranged

[@MaverickTomcat69]

I think this is a good list. Aint no way Ret gonna be meta

[@brice9013]

The people saying destro only pumps in well coordinated groups are just wrong. I pugged 8-15 on ptr with all kinds of tanks, some trolling with small pulls or moving too much and i still out dpsed almost everyone. Shadow is still the main character but destro absolutely pumps with medium sized pulls too

[@a.a.6464]

Nerf inc

[@Calltrops77]

Willing to bet anything the meta will be sp, fire mage, Aug in the highest keys

[@Aldoopiola]

yeah for sure, the destro cope its nonsense

[@Maximo-Maximus]

Yeah, destro copium and will get nerfed

[@alexhallgren3269]

it always is

[@davidw.5984]

its gonna be vdh + fire + sp + aug / some other caster anyways..dont believe its gonna be wl, they are squishy in high keys und they dont bring good utility in m+

[@erenaltin6507]

VDH+Fire+SP+AUG+Resto Druid (the Resto will be Balance on first big big big Pull so they can melt the mobs after that he will change to Resto) in Teams for Push 30+ Keys. VDH+Fire+SP+Ret/Outlaw+MW Monk in PUGs.

[@phnxx5301]

think ret is for sure a+

[@robertgowdey]

Fire mage is so good because of execute

[@shianova]

People are delusional if they think that destro won't be nerfed into B tier, there is no way it's going to stay as broken as it is right now

[@Rassius92]

With last tuesday changes this tier list is oudated again 😂

[@olschriff2921]

Don´t think fury is this low... mid to high b-tier i think in m+... But Arms is to good in s4 because of mass aoe and massive pulls we warrior players know that... arms is at least a-tier because the lack of utility and survivability... but in pure dps a+ to s-tier! But only in m+ and if the tank pulls right...

[@Aldoopiola]

the fact that u play a warrior dont make them good xD

[@olschriff2921]

@@Aldoopiola it´s my opinion and i don´t say they better than meta when i play them... but a f... troll like you are can have your own opinion xD the pure dmg output is not that bad but the lack of utility compare to the meta specs will sort them out this is right... we can play this 5 meta specs and delete all other classes from game but u can do high keys with all classes but in the end the last 0,1% it will be dominated by meta thats right...

[@Garbage315]

You're really underrating Unholy dude, when the secondary stats being capped out this spec is going to pop off insanely hard. Frost is a bit better than it was before but it is nowhere near Unholy right now.

[@Aldoopiola]

tell me u play a dk without telling me u play dk xD

[@brandonneal9196]

If you have enough crit oblit build melts. Obliterate counts for about 40% of total damage. If you proc a free oblit crit every few seconds you tell me. Unholy may do better aoe but what on those long boss fights. Frost should be in A tier. But you have to cap out crit which no one does

[@JahjuanR]

Ret should be A+ not only because of the good dmg but the Survivability! A dead S DPS is useless!

[@tatortots3331]

What did I just read

[@Robertdqwqdwqwdqdw]

a tierlist.

[@braders]

rip hunter time to reroll for season 4

[@kevinklein120]

ret low on single? :D im 3.8k and most of the dung bosses this season im #1 lol

[@Iddy267]

very objective and mature tierlist. I'd say its the least biast tierlist i've seen so far.

[@Fallingmedic]

Dk placement seemed a bit biased. Kind of just thrown in there, but otherwise you’re right.

[@poppopdidu]

Stupid turret dps destro, i will stay with demo i can play that and watch tv at the same time and wont miss any of my aoe.

[@bilbobaggins7095]

If you were the mast alive on your BM then your friends suck. It is super squish

[@preller9059]

i dont think that fury is C-Tier,. i guess atleast A Tier

[@plutobottles8561]

Survival got screwed hard by bliz

[@LoveLifeDaily]

Really not a fan of tier lists myself, don't really like how they bait low IQ players into choices when the meta is so fluid and they end up playing specs they aren't comfortable with. But anyway I was originally set on going Augmentation for this season as I've mained it since vanilla, but I'm actually just going to change my entire personality based on this video. I've shaved a widow peak into my head, grown six inches, lowered my IQ significantly and stopped going to the gym! Thanks for changing my life VesperalTV!! Can't wait to smash season 4 on Affliction Warlock!

[@Dozu]

Aug since vanilla got me XD

[@Ashidazx]

lol then just don’t watch the videos if they are causing such anguish in your life. Also give up the role of being the white knight savior of those influenced by tier lists. They will make it through life without your sword to protect them.

[@Seph.ackerman]

Seb xD

[@endocry]

@@Ashidazxbut then what would he have to get upset and get on a pedestal about?

[@remu3657]

You sounded very disappointed in RL

[@shaun2312]

PVE? PVP?

[@cwhit2575]

Did you watch the video you simpleton?

[@m_rod9562]

0 shot Aug evoker is not S-tier in my+

[@mewozrofl]

Fire a tier with s2 tier set? Na I dont think so

[@Aldoopiola]

warlock way to overrated, not meta at all, and i would argue not even close to be meta, fire will be meta for sure. i would lower destro 2 tiers and mage 1 up and the rest its kinda ok

[@AbooddHamdan]

If you actually believe destro locks gonna remain this absurd you don't know Blizz yet, 100% nerfed first week.

[@Uncle-Ruckus.]

warlocks and mages are blizzards fav so no dont expect nerfs.

[@erenaltin6507]

They will not do well, if you go with destro in pug group you will do not that dmg as you expect. In push groups yes but not as a single player destro.

[@Aldoopiola]

@@erenaltin6507 even if its not pugs, u wont be using destro its no worht over a mage.

[@Codemandragon21]

End of the day play what you want all can play the content these tier lists are just toxic

[@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434]

Putting bm in B is trolling

[@marcingro8628]

making a tier list before class tuning is like gambling :D and yeah havoc in B tier... you have nice drugs bro! :D

[@Sly_404]

He made the reasoning very clear. Vengeance being THE meta tank again you have no reason to bring havoc.

[@waxoncrypto9524]

These fire mage lovers, fire mage is absolute dog shit unless you geared to the tits and getting PI’s and running key equivalents of 25+ or higher

[@waxoncrypto9524]

Like I will guarantee you that 99.99% of the players watching this and reading this would perform better and push keys higher with any spec other then fire, a UH DK, A monk, a surv hunter, a Dev Voker, all of them will smash fire in the overall in all keys unless your pushing world level content and geared to perfection

[@TheGoldenAngel82]

@@waxoncrypto9524 Problem (for me at least) is that a LOT of people take the meta perception into even the tiny keys. If I enter a key as Arcane spec, I am kicked before I can even press the respec button. I get declined a LOT on my well geared RShaman, but people never decline me on my badly halfgeared druid. I can sign with all kinds of DPS and spend a whole lot of time sitting searching for a party if I run my own key, but eeeeverybody wants me when I play Spriest. And yes the spriest has become the best geared char that I have, there's simply no wait time on it.

[@tharancyboy]

i am still mad about your windwalker placement. i hope you can find a way to make it up to me or else i will be gone forever

[@evanobrien6369]

You know nothing of dh js. Lol. I havent been out dps'd in a single key as havoc & I've run 27+ keys haha😅

[@zoubeko2681]

its because VDH is meta, so no reason to bring HDH :) meta is not only DPS,

[@NY-qb5bq]

lol.....Havoc dh b Tier...? This is the dumbest set up already. Lock are the dumbest class this whole season. Every lock dont kick or do mechanic or stun.

[@kaleoandros25]

You need to stop the drugs.

[@sadza18]

How can you possibly know, who's gonna be where, in tier list of S4? A video for a views need. That's sad

[@dgiras13]

beta is out for a month almost, they have tested who will be meta (at start)

[@rocketengy]

its not hard to predict where they will be when most classes aren't getting balance changes but they are getting tier sets we have already have. we also have ptr testing. not sure what ur yappin about

[@LM10V7]

when season 3 about to start ppl making a tier list and putting mistweaver on S tier when no one ever try to get him in keys ever and if there is not a class tuning you still can predict 90% of the meta and its not for views its fact not just randomly answers.

[@anannoyedpanda]

stupid comment.