Saab 9-5 Subframe Bushing DIY

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@lasagna187
@lasagna187 5 жыл бұрын
I found it infinitely easier to use a prybar for removing the outer races vs. fighting with the sawzall. Just go around the perimeter and deform them inward. They fall right out
@MrReStories
@MrReStories 3 жыл бұрын
I tried that but just couldn't do it -they were just too tight. I bought a little cheap air powered body saw and it took them out in seconds. Because I don't have a hoist in my garage (Oh, I wish 😃) I just didn't have the clearance at the rear end of the frame to get a pry bar in there and get any real leverage. The saw is tiny, 200mm (8") long and was easy to fit in there. (obviously you need a compressor for this). It was a 10 second cut and they pretty much fell out.
@sean6617
@sean6617 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone planning to do this job please note.... When I did mine, the rear bushings had a metal inner race, not plastic. They were sized in. I had to bend the lower part of the collar using a pry bar to help break the sized join. Then to remove I managed to fit a 27mm socket over the top, the same way you fit the new bushing, and jack up the subframe and the collar popped out. I did the same on the centre bushings which were in fact plastic, but my way was much quicker and easier than cutting or deforming them. I didnt drill or cut old bushings either, i put something solid between subframe and chassis and jacket a vertical bar up and it popped the inner bushings out.
@lucpros7473
@lucpros7473 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment! 27mm socket fit perfectly. Got the races out with no problem at all doing this, didnt even have to bend the collar. Thanks!
@yhird
@yhird 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you eEuroparts! My 2002 Saab 9-3 Aero sedan had a very annoying subframe creaking noise for the past 10 years. I finally replaced the front end rear subframe bushings with Professional Parts Polyurethane bushings and there is absolutely no more chassis noise what so ever. Thanks guys for a great video and for supplying the replacement bushings. Now it's time for a cold beer!
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 жыл бұрын
Used this method. Worked! Absolute star for putting this online. Followed it exactly (made sure washer was put in top of the bush between it and the car body) Transformed the car!
@22chachalaca
@22chachalaca 6 жыл бұрын
beebo no difficulties with some as others have described?
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 6 жыл бұрын
@@22chachalaca Not really. Did the job with jack stands and mostly on my back under the car. Hardest part was getting the old ones out. Used an electric jigsaw to cut the old shells out. Drilled the rubber centres out first with a hole saw. Worked a treat.
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 5 жыл бұрын
@@22chachalaca poly made by Performance Parts Sweden (same as the ones used on the video here) Don't use oem ones as these are far better and easier to install.
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 5 жыл бұрын
@@22chachalaca Slightly more vibration through steering wheel. Other than that all ok
@anomoys1556
@anomoys1556 5 ай бұрын
​@@bEEBO178Long shot I know but what size was the hole saw do you remember? Thanks!
@nvanhart
@nvanhart Ай бұрын
This is great vid shows the essentials and nothing more A+ job folks
@КиноЦой-ь7ы
@КиноЦой-ь7ы 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо огромное, очень полезно, показывайте пожалуйста чаще видео уроки, замена подвесного подшипника,было интересно
@michaelfegley1951
@michaelfegley1951 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished the rear 4 subframe bushings on my 02 Saab 9-5. You will need a short sawzall to fit under the car with jack stands. I bought the 12v Milwaukee product and it worked great. The video is a little misleading as the middle bushings are a pain in the ass to create enough space to insert the new bushing. Those two were conveniently left out of the video. I ended up jamming a bottle jack between the body and the control arm to create enough space. I still appreciate the video but maybe a little less editing next time.
@brettkramer
@brettkramer 6 жыл бұрын
Valuable, realistic feedback from someone who's been there, thanks for posting !
@MostGenericUser
@MostGenericUser 4 жыл бұрын
They weren't left out. Only the front 2 weren't done because it's probably easier to just drop the whole subframe for those 2 than try and use this method. But appreciate the feedback in going to do this and I'm hoping this method will work since the middles are really the only 2 that are worn
@MetalKilledRap
@MetalKilledRap 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the NG or OG 9-5?
@michaelfegley1951
@michaelfegley1951 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalKilledRap Mine is a 2002 9-5 Linear.
@gwendalgossec9186
@gwendalgossec9186 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelfegley1951 to create more space between chassis and middle bushing housing, you can loose the 3 strut top nuts : more clearance is allowed.
@brettkramer
@brettkramer 6 жыл бұрын
I just spent about $800 in parts, (recently, but thousands over the years), with eEuroparts thanks largely in part due to video tutorials just like this one, Thanks. If my friends at eEuro would like to make a video about replacing a clutch, slave cylinder and more on my '03 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon, I'd be happy to bring my car over and join the fun.
@matthewwolfe4509
@matthewwolfe4509 7 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for this. Been putting it off after seeing another walk-thru making it look like a nightmare for a diy'er
@MEOWMEOW-wz2ql
@MEOWMEOW-wz2ql 7 жыл бұрын
Eeuroparts videos are the best
@ChallengerDood
@ChallengerDood 4 жыл бұрын
So, I just completed this job yesterday. I was not able to fit my sawzall up into the space needed to cut the old bushings so I picked up a harbor freight air saw. It was $22 and worked absolutely great! Only about 10 inches long so it was easy to fit where I needed it. Now that I've got it all back together my rattles are gone and the car drives great. Except... now my alignment is off! No idea how I managed to do that.
@rangersammy
@rangersammy 7 жыл бұрын
Nice. One if the next jobs for my 9-5.
@sgstouch
@sgstouch 4 жыл бұрын
Just did mine in garage on jackstands. Had trouble prying subframe low enough to get new bushings in. I even took out all subframe bolts at one time .. no it didn't fall on the floor or anything. There's 2 motor mounts and shocks still suspending everything . But even then I couldn't get subframe low enough. TIP: To get the middle bushings to fit between body and subframeI disconnect each shock from the top ,one at a time when doing each side. (3 bolts on shock tower) that allowed the subframe to sag and be pried a little more and everything was easy after that.
@sgstouch
@sgstouch 4 жыл бұрын
Oh and harbor freight electric body saw worked great to cut the bushings . Small cheap and fast.
@MetalKilledRap
@MetalKilledRap 3 жыл бұрын
This is very true. Removing the strut mount bolts for each wheel at the top two back corners of the engine bay gives just enough extra sag with jack stands
@inigomontoya6806
@inigomontoya6806 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, a lot of this is applicable to my '99 Viggen with the 2.3, which there is precious little info on.
@Yesterday23071
@Yesterday23071 5 жыл бұрын
Nice done . I m starting soon work on my 2002 Volvo XC70 . Thanks .
@guitarlover302
@guitarlover302 3 ай бұрын
Glad I have a 9.3 😊
@greg2720
@greg2720 6 жыл бұрын
Hey you wanna do mine? Lol good job man! I do all my own work usually too but I recently broke my femur snowboarding.. Now I have a rear engine mount, oil pressure sensor, idle pulley and bushings sitting in a box waiting for me to heal so I can do the job..
@ScienceStuff15
@ScienceStuff15 4 жыл бұрын
I have done this recently to my 2005 9-5 with the ProfessionalPartsSweden PU Bushings. The drive feeling is so much better than the standard ones, but it doesn’t feel comfortable at red lights. I have done all the bushings even the three engine mounts. The vibration on idle is a little bit annoying
@Prot0n
@Prot0n Жыл бұрын
The engine mounts are probably the biggest issue if you didn’t go OEM
@MrReStories
@MrReStories 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused, at about 1.46min it says to put the big flat washer on top between the bushing and the body, but that is NOT what is shown on the vid. You can clearly see the big flat washer on the bottom of the bushing. That looks like the right place to me but can someone who knows please comment?
@pcnepal
@pcnepal 3 жыл бұрын
Read the comment below by VioleNFaN (3 years ago). eEuroparts admitted that the washer was misplaced.
@MrReStories
@MrReStories 3 жыл бұрын
@@pcnepal Thanks - I see that now. On top it is then 😃
@andrewazzariti
@andrewazzariti 6 жыл бұрын
Lol my shop wants a grand to do this job.
@turbostar93
@turbostar93 5 жыл бұрын
what is the correct diameter to cut out the old bushings ? thx for the video
@jasonsipman4729
@jasonsipman4729 3 жыл бұрын
I've been living with creaking in my suspension for nearly 2 years. I followed the instructions in the video to install the washer ON TOP of the bushing between the body and the bushing. That appears to be incorrect! In the video, the installer puts the large washer below the bushing but the text overlay states to do the exact opposite. I followed the text directions and it lead to creaks. I eventually swapped them to this below position and all noises have gone My advice, do not follow the instructions in the video in regard to putting the washer on top. All else is good!
@andber
@andber 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same when I watched.. Why between? 🤔 I have not done the job yet.
@jvoll7685
@jvoll7685 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the 6 bushings "kit" but it is described as "Front" bushings, of which there are only 2. I'm confused here because you replace 6 bushings with a kit called "front" bushings. How does that work? Are there 3 subframes on a Saab 9-5? And if so, does the "front" subframe, the one I have out at the moment to fix my transmission, use 6 identical bushings?
@rehmbo1
@rehmbo1 7 жыл бұрын
No need to support the engine? I've checked some other DIY descriptions and the shop manual and engine support seems to be needed.
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 7 жыл бұрын
As long as you keep two bolts in (loose) then you do not need to support the engine. As described in the video, don't remove all 6 at once. In the shop procedure you must completely remove the subframe, which of course holds a few engine mounts. If you remove the subframe you need to use an engine support.
@alchavez5008
@alchavez5008 3 жыл бұрын
eEuroparts. Do you have them in 4 or 6?since only 4 would have to be replaced.
@dw-ie2my
@dw-ie2my 3 жыл бұрын
What diameter for the hole saw? Thanks in advance
@saabross3171
@saabross3171 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. What type of grease was used, out of curiosity.
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 7 жыл бұрын
Both brands of Poly bushings we sell are supplied with grease. If you would like to regrease your bushings at any point, we recommend Loctite Viperlube (www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/51750/ViperLube-Synthetic-Grease-3oz-Tube-Plastilube-457456/) or Motul TechGrease (www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/71665/Tech-Grease-300-7oz-100898/)
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 7 жыл бұрын
Do you ship parts to the uk?
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 7 жыл бұрын
Yes we do
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 5 жыл бұрын
@@Eeuroparts Did the job following your video. Worked a charm! Thanks for sharing!
@m78e6q5
@m78e6q5 5 жыл бұрын
#NEVERBUYASAAB
@ReconTHG
@ReconTHG 2 жыл бұрын
TIS says not to use impact on subframe bolts…
@urbanjentry222
@urbanjentry222 6 жыл бұрын
Have you done a front and rear anti roll/sway bar tutorial?
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
We have not, sorry
@Clint2jz
@Clint2jz 5 жыл бұрын
With the outer metal races for the front front and front rear subframe bushes it seems they are part of the bushing hole, do i still have to remove them? Cheers
@jonnierz
@jonnierz 5 жыл бұрын
Yes remove the bushing, it's part of the knackered bush
@danielmilanovic5908
@danielmilanovic5908 Жыл бұрын
You say on washer on top and then you show with then washer on the bottom????
@nvanhart
@nvanhart Ай бұрын
They added all caps annotation because they did it wrong in video
@danielmilanovic5908
@danielmilanovic5908 Ай бұрын
​@@nvanhart Yes I saw that now when I searched for it. They should reshoot that part instead. As they should've corrected it on the car too.
@AMOKPLN
@AMOKPLN 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, great job! I have a small question whether the gearbox has been used on the video - the yellow is powerflex? Are there any better changes after using it? Greetings Piotr.
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes it is the Powerflex and the idle remains very smooth no vibration. Shifting is direct and much better than with the squishy soft worn out OEM bushing. www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/88667/Auto-Trans-Mount-Bushing-Large-End-PFF66222/
@roo2dee2
@roo2dee2 7 жыл бұрын
What size is that hole saw? I see that the wheels were removed, but can this be done on drive up ramps instead of a lift?
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 7 жыл бұрын
The subframe has to sag down in order to clear the bushing, so you have to have the car in the air, ramps will not work. The holesaw should be close to 1 1/8in.
@candycornpeeps
@candycornpeeps 6 жыл бұрын
I've always heard that poly bushings are quite squeaky an are much harsher ride. How's the NVH with the poly bushings?
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the position of the bushing and what equipment you have installed on your car. If you are raced out with coilovers, stiff sidewall sport tires, and Powerflex Black all around, then yes you will have a very stiff unforgiving ride. That's on purpose, you need that for proper road feedback. If you install street poly bushings in choice positions, such as control arms or subframe bushings, you will most likely not notice a harsher ride. You will get a little more feedback, with the benefit of a lifetime warranty on the Powerflex products. This video installs very inexpensive Proparts bushings. Because they are not in a twisting motion or move at all, they will not squeak (and haven't in two years since installation).
@candycornpeeps
@candycornpeeps 6 жыл бұрын
eEuroparts.com thank you very informative.
@Clint2jz
@Clint2jz 5 жыл бұрын
@eeuroparts how do you create enough gap to shove that most rearward bushing in?? cheers
@jonnierz
@jonnierz 5 жыл бұрын
I used a crowbar and a trolley jack, with a drift placed underneath the crowbar to create a pivot. If you look at the subframe there is a void around where the bush goes to put a bar in, and get extra leverage
@AndyBlock
@AndyBlock 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do the front two with a similar method, or is that impossible without dropping the subframe?
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
That should be possible, but you should make sure you have the engine supported at the top, you may not be able to leverage enough clearance to get the bushings out and in through the top in that position. Let us know how it goes.
@AndyBlock
@AndyBlock 6 жыл бұрын
@@Eeuroparts Nice. Will maybe give it a go. You've given me hope, lol. This job went from "no way in heck I want to bother trying this" to "maybe I can actually do this." My 2006 9-5 sounds like an old beater going down the road with all the worn bushings. Odd thing is, it only gets creaky when it gets cold out. Thanks for the great video!
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
@@AndyBlock Sway bar bushings often get creaky when cold too, might be worth replacing them or just putting some grease between the bushing and the bar to see if that helps
@isaiah-lava5.086
@isaiah-lava5.086 6 жыл бұрын
what size hole saw was used? I really need to do this my rears are shot
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
1 1/8in is the one used in the video
@VioleNFaN
@VioleNFaN 7 жыл бұрын
1.45 It looks to me like the washer is on the downside. Is that correct? Not on the top between the bushing and the body.
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 7 жыл бұрын
The washer goes on top between the body and the bushing to prevent tearing
@paveljachymstal6148
@paveljachymstal6148 6 жыл бұрын
@@Eeuroparts yes but on the video there's washer under the body.And to me it's look like to be ok. Because bushing Is suport by large Area of frame+body on the top and washer betwen bolt and bushing stop wear by bolt wich has smaler area to spread load
@Eeuroparts
@Eeuroparts 6 жыл бұрын
Pavel Jachymstal Trust us, the washer goes on top, despite the mistake made in video filming
@jvoll7685
@jvoll7685 4 жыл бұрын
@@Eeuroparts Rather a HUGE mistake if you ask me...if I hadn't read all the comments I would have just followed the video....why don't you edit the video with some text pointing out that the video is wrong instead of just having contradicting text and images?
@steinarildzimmermann
@steinarildzimmermann 7 жыл бұрын
Just done this job. It's a pain in the rear
@isaiah-lava5.086
@isaiah-lava5.086 6 жыл бұрын
did you use a lift or jackstands? I have both but I'm not sure how long something like this would take
@m78e6q5
@m78e6q5 5 жыл бұрын
#NEVERBUYASAAB
@jonasgrumby1093
@jonasgrumby1093 6 жыл бұрын
Fast
@shakalpb1164
@shakalpb1164 5 жыл бұрын
Powerflex? XD
@m78e6q5
@m78e6q5 5 жыл бұрын
#NEVERBUYASAAB
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