SAAB 93 NO START, NO CRANK, NO COMMUNICATION

Hey guys and welcome back again, this a short video (DIY friendly) for how to diagnose such a condition if you suspect the ABS module, ofcourse a no start condition could be due a 1000 reason, most important reason is a low voltage in the battery which i assume you charged or replaced if thats the situation, make sure your battery voltage is above 12 and stays above that while the key is in the crank position.
Enjoy the video.

[@michaelchambers9838]

I want to tell You THANK YOU Your video WORKED THE FIRST TIME!

[@helenporter421]

Can't wait to give it a go

[@umitcakici449]

You are a FLYING DUTCHMAN! Greetings from Amsterdam! have been struggling with this problem for 3 years on 04 Saab 9-3. Crazy mechanics wanting to replace all parts etc (spent over 600 EURO) and problem remained unresolved; You made it so easy, when watching your video I could not wait and I just checked it exactly as you described. That is the first and second pin,connecting with opposite rail. And IT WORKED!!! The only way to restart my car so far was a hard reboot (take off black power cable wait 10 sec and connect back). You are an awesome DUDE!

[@Choowy]

Man I'm definitely gonna give this a try later on to see if this method gets my car to start. Been having similar issues with my 05 Saab, only thing is that mine cranks but wont start or communicate with any scanner. ABS light is on along with the Traction Control & Check engine, was gonna just test my luck by purchasing a new ECM in hopes of that being the issue but will definitely give this method a shot. Saab owners appreciate your channel so much!!!

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

If the car cranks then it might be smthn else, but why not to try and let me know

[@Choowy]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY will do man, also I uploaded a video of it almost turning on after spraying starter fluid in the "Intake". Check it out, maybe you can spot something out.

[@kloschuessel773]

Chuy which one do you have? Did you fix it?

[@Choowy]

@@kloschuessel773 2005 Saab Arc & The bitch still don’t run. Just Cloned & Swapped my ECU & it still won’t start

[@helenporter421]

Great work! Thank you so much 🎉

[@devandickey2313]

Dude is a genius

[@j3sus305917]

Great video amazing trick. I’m having the same issue of no crank no start and no communication. I tried this trick but unfortunately it didn’t work for me. But at least it’s one thing to scratch off the list.

[@mrkmrk804]

ECU pin 72 big socket brown wire with white line broken. It goes to front fuse box, first of 3 sockets under fuse box, first means front of the car and up, number 6 pin. How to test. Red relay, take it out, connect left and right holes with wire, should start. Cut, put new wire, solder, fixed. All errors on ABS module and limited performance will go away.

[@coplies6948]

@@mrkmrk804 I'll try this my saab is having this problem but mine is gas don't have a red relay next to the yellow starter fuse

[@mav3ric100]

​@@mrkmrk804 maybe I'm an idiot but which ecu are you talking about? Main one of abs one? And which wire?

[@mrkmrk804]

@@mav3ric100 Main one.

[@mrkmrk804]

On ECU ( main one ), there is numbers for every wire. Number 72, located on bigger socket connecting ECU. That wire is brown with white line. There are few same colour coded wires, thats is why is best to track down number 72. It goes to fuse box, to a number 6 pin.

[@martinjavurek5320]

Hi is this the same inu unit for the b284 engine? Thanks for the reply

[@J1I9M7M4Y]

Very helpfull video!! Do you know if this apply for the TID models too? Best regards Jimmy

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Im sure it does ..

[@charlettem76]

Hello, I have a 9-3 2.0 t, my question is if I try this and the car starts what is my next step? Do I replace the module?

[@eLcRiCkEtO4]

Is it plug and play to replace or is reprogramming needed?! TIA

[@ralphsalewsky4545]

thanks you are a genius but another one quick Q replacing the ABS does reprogramming needed or married to the car to work? hydraulics side and the electrical modules or the whole units ?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

U can replace just the moduel .. 99% of the time does not need programming

[@ralphsalewsky4545]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY WHAT DO YOU MEAN JUST BTHE MODULE ? THE ELECTRICAL PART? SHOULD IT BE BRAND NEW MODULE ? I PURCHASED A USED ONE AND SRTILL DOES THE SAME THING

[@speakersboy76]

Hi! this is a great video... thank you for sharing this to us. I have the code U0212 in my Saab 93 2008 Aero. Sometimes ABS AND TCS lights comes on when I hit some bumps on the Road. Then sometimes the car won't start. There are others videos where the ABS module is re-soldered on solder joints due dry joints inside the module. Do you recommend re-soldering dry joints insiste the ABS module? Thank you. Save Saab!

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

I will never suggest to open up such a critical safety component, u can send it for repairs or replace it simply. The symptoms sounds like bad ABS module, but i will need further informations on the code U0202, in which module it was stored, and there should be an additional 2 digit codes After it if ur scanner can read those will help me help u further

[@speakersboy76]

@@Sirius90125 Thanks. I have followed all the instructions shown in that video and it worked for me! Thanks

[@starionslider2116]

Ok your trick 100% worked for me. My question is where do I go from here? I find TONS of used modules but the numbers dont all match. Is there one certain part number that for sure needs to match or a certain hardware number? Im happy that its actually correctly diagnosed now but I’m still up in the air on how to move forward.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

2 numbers on the right of the label on the module must match and the number just above the barcode as well .

[@starionslider2116]

The Flying MechanicDIY thank you so much for the reply. Im gonna pull it and check all the solder joints because I noticed a lot of people have easily fixed their stock module.

[@ivanayvar]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY wich numbers?

[@ivanayvar]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY this what I have 15114107 15052407 54084771b

[@kaseykauffman3612]

What happens if you shorted something when your trying to start your Saab in the relay box under he hood I stuck the damn wires in the wrong hope and I'm having problems with it starting now it's cranking but not starting

[@nordicrestoration3964]

Hi I have a Saab 9-3 03 vector sid is saying key not accepted, have transponder codes key turns but no crank tried to jus a jumper the car cranks but no start gets spark for a few seconds and it stops getting sparks ?

[@millkymilkshake]

I freaking love you

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

🤣🤣🤣

[@marcots1000]

where did you get the connectors soldered to the wires? Since the abs module has thicker pins than the male connectors that can be found in our saabs although of equal width. Furthermore, I need the two larger male pins that are still in the module to check the power supply.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

I have a ton of old connectors, i chose what ever fits 😬

[@nexes8976]

Hi I have that problem too but also sid screen not working and can't find why I can turn the key There is no steering wheel lock at all Traction fault on screen and sid not working Also no communication Any ideas?

[@audreygeorge5574]

Please help me with my Cadillac bls I can't seem to find the problem on it

[@robellis9497]

HI, I have a 2005 9-3 convertible showing "Immobiliser Failure. Try Starting Again. Contact service", is this a common fault and is there an easy fix. The key unlocks/locks the doors and the key is accepted by the ignition and turns, just does nothing?? Thanks in advance and keep up the great videos, very helpful and easy to follow

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Dismantle the ISM, clean it and try again . I would recommend reading faults from the car as the message is not enough to pin point the root cause, however the most common item is the ISM, certain fault codes may point to the CIM. Watch my video for how to remove and clean the ISM kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4rQq4uagdqDo9U Good luck

[@CycloneCyd]

did refurbishing the ISM work for you?

[@syriacbejaoui672]

Hello and thanks a lot for this tip. My Saab 9.3 1.8t - 2008 is in this situation. Is it possible to drive it with the TCS/ESP bypassed ? Thanks

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

It is doable, but i recommend against it

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

It is doable, but i recommend against it

[@syriacbejaoui672]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Ok thanks!

[@LegoBeto]

The only way to fix this permanently is to re solder the pcb in that ABS module but my question is, if i get my car to start that way, will it get damaged if I plug the big fat connector back in while its running?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

U can short the wires are externally and leave the connector connected . These pair of pins actually connected on the board .

[@donsharonkrump6282]

'97 900S that cranks but won't start. Seems there is no spark to the plubs.

[@tamalamargerum4922]

I need help. Tried jumper wires. Didn’t do anything. What can I use to make jumper wires? Please help me.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

If jumper wires didnt help then the ABS is not ur problem

[@Three.5]

How about a no crank no start without any lights? I'm at a dead end, Voltage on battery is healthy, replaced the starter a few years back. Thank you!

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

With ignition ON, do u know how to bypass the starter relay and see if the car cranks ?

[@fabiankuchenbecker2609]

Which Pins? Cant See it

[@Noncreativecontent]

When you repla the abs unit, does it need to be coded to the ecu ? or is it just a plug and play ?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Plug and play if it has the same numbers

[@Noncreativecontent]

Thank you very much. I'm gonna see a 93 1.9tdi in my area. it is a 2008 model. The symptoms are the same. owner previously replace the battery and abs sensor on the back of the car. Did not result in his issue. If bypassing the abs module will let the car start then I'm planning on buying it. Do you think it is okay to drive it home, its only about 5 miles. I am hoping that all it needs is a new abs module.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

@@Noncreativecontent driving it should be fine

[@ronaugelli2201]

That was my problem , ABS module , after throwing parts at it with another mechanic

[@Angell-Angell]

I while back you help me pinpoint what was wrong with my saab .. And like you guessed it was the computer, it burn the pin farthest away from the fire wall to the right of the computer on the driver side connector ..it also burnt the same pin on the connector..(standing in front of the car) so now a got a new computer and a new connector .. all I have to do is cut the old burn connector and join the new one but I noticed there are 7 black wires.. I've joint the rest of them by color and everything match is just the black ones I'm puzzle about.. they don't have a mark they just black..So my question is.. Do it matter how I join the black to black wires??!!.. Any information will do helpful!! Thanks!!..

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Can u remind me with the details of ur car YEAR/ENGINE CODE/TRANSMISSION and if it is a USA car ?

[@Angell-Angell]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY 2003 saab 9-3 linear 2.0t automatic transmission but I don't know what's the engine code.. And yes, I'm in the USA..

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

@@Angell-Angell U will have to trace at least the the 3 following components, and see which black wire associated to them and make sure it goes to the correct pin number in the connector. Pin18 - A/C pressure sensor Pin30- atmospheric pressure sensor Pin23-exhaust temp sensor After u r done with these, The remaining Pins 47,57,60,63 dont matter where they go

[@Angell-Angell]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY thank you so much..I had a feeling not every single one matter . But I wasn't sure. I have the wiring harness in front of me, I'm trying to figure this out now.. And with the information you just give it it should be a breeze!.

[@fatguyfriday]

I have these errors. my v6 aero starts. is stuck in 3nd gear. when i connect tech2 it states candi not connected. ever run across that?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Candi not connected is a candi/tech2 problem .. u will need to get the codes from the car

[@MikeSmithMLS]

Where can I see where to put the wires at ? I don’t know where the numbers you said are at on the plug

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Pair the last row of pins together, and then the previous to last row together .. these are the small pins side not the big pins

[@MikeSmithMLS]

The Flying MechanicDIY ok I’ll try see if I can do this if not I’ll have to junk the car :/

[@charlettem76]

How do I get the abs off to do this?

[@alchavez5008]

It’s the abs module throwing out the check engine light also?great video

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Yes it is.

[@psmalley5625]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY You seem to know what you are doing, is this guys problem the same or do you know what is causing this, thanks in advance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKHTnoaapsudhMU

[@mrkmrk804]

U2105-00 fault code Saab 93 2008 Vector Sport 1.9 Does not start or crank Your method does not work on mine, sad. Maybe you have anything in your mind?

[@felipefonseca5753]

I have a 9-3 2007, no crank, no problem with abs, I got P1614-00, can u help me with something...

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Did u replace anything in the car and like the engine module or the CIM and then it stopped starting ?

[@do.u.groove5112]

what saab doesnt have a turbo tac?? @2:14

[@Farmer2492]

Hi my saab 93 2006 model has the exact same problem after i charged the battery for a week is there a fuse for that when i turn the key nothing will give it a try

[@charlettem76]

I also have a 2006 with the same problem following your question

[@Farmer2492]

@@charlettem76 i fixed mine needed a new ECU they sell refurbished ones they take the data off your old one and put on a new one

[@cpt.colton4549]

Now it says my ecu not programmed please help. It wont start or turn over. It just gives my lights and warnings. I just bought this 2003 Saab 93 2.0T (manual) and it still won't turn over. I've tried everytjing....

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

I would suggest you grap my eMail from the info section and write me a list of what did u try exactly, what kind of messages and lights on the dashboard and any info u think its usable

[@cpt.colton4549]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY okay I will reply here very shortly thank you so much

[@jonnyarvidsson5442]

Does this work on a 9-5 model as well

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

No

[@jonnyarvidsson5442]

Ok, is there any way to check if it’s broken

[@ralphsalewsky4545]

common failure? how did you fix this? MY ABS was the problem

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Replace the ABS ..

[@chilidogcats]

Here's how you fix it. Tricky part is removing the ABS so you can send it in to get it fixed. xemodex.com/us/product/trw-abs-module-for-saab-9-3-repair-service/ WIS for removing ABS Control unit saabwisonline.com/b4/9-3/2007/5-brakes/tcs-esp/adjustment-replacement-tcs-esp/control-module-tcs-382-esp-671-b207-b284-rhd-z18xe-z19/

[@davejohnston5158]

Tried this on a 2007 2.0T and it killed the speedo and only gave me 10 miles before the engine cut out and brakes overheated. Also pushing wires in can disrupt the connection with the traction control unit.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

When u push the wires with the connector disconnected u r actually bypassing all communication with the ABS module, yes the speedo may not work, but the fact ur engine died suggests smthn else wrong with the car, and brakes overheating has totally nthn to do with it .

[@davejohnston5158]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Thanks for clarifying. I did the bypass to try and get hom after I had a number of episodes of the engine turning off combined with ABS warning. Engine would crank but not start unless 10 mins had passed then could drive another 5 - 20 mins and would all happen again. I now have traction control off light when turning the key which then disappears when the car starts. Would a broken sensor wire lead to an engine shut down or is it more likely module failure?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Dave Johnston , first of all this test is designed to bypass the abs module so u can figure out if it is the issue or not, and since the condition persist even with the abs module then ur issue can be smthn else. Does ur rpm gauge reads anything when u crank the car and it does not start ?

[@davejohnston5158]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY Thanks. I'll have a look. I was just going off the traction control warning that came up as the engine shut down.

[@demondmorris7308]

What if no abs light, no lights at all. No start no clicks. On a manual

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Check battery strength, cables tights

[@sambarrett9729]

What if your DTC is 1445 and fuses are fine

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Provide the full code and what car exactly please

[@Jandejongjong]

Are you Saab specialist?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

I used to be, now im working on all makes and models

[@GurdeepSingh-bu6ee]

hello there, I'm sure you can help me. I tried changing tire size with Tech2 tool and made some changes so the mileage gauge gives me accurate reading. 2003 Saab 95 Arc V6. So the mileage needle stopped moving. Than I changes ABS type setting to last one on the list. Milo meter started working but ABS warning lights came on. So I messed up some Tech2 settings. Please guide me to fix it. Thanks and regards

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Im sorry, i have to have the car in hand to be able to help

[@marcoantoniochajacabal5614]

Tengo un saab 93 2004 tengo el mismo problema q n tiene star y no da me marca el codigo p0601

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Cant understand what u saying, but it looks like u need a new ECU from the P0601

[@adelibrahim2206]

I have another Saab similar year and model, can I just swap out the abs module computer for testing purposing to determine if it’s the ABS, I am getting no start, no crank, no comm, I’m suspecting the ECU Thanks

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Adel Ibrahim it wouldnt harm, just plug the module u dont have to install it in the car

[@adelibrahim2206]

The Flying MechanicDIY ok thanks I will try and let you know

[@adelibrahim2206]

I tried this but no success, only abs light and brake came on but the stability/traction control failure disappeared, I still got no start I don’t know what else to try now

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Adel Ibrahim u mean u tried my method or u tried to plug the other module ??

[@adelibrahim2206]

The Flying MechanicDIY I tried your jumping wire method first and only the SID messages(stability/traction control) disappeared, and got the brake and abs light on dashboard, I still got no start Then I plugged my other Saab’s abs computer and still no start

[@CODM-JAZZ]

Respect mate. Please leave me a way to contact you. Will not be for free

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

My eMail is in the channel ABOUT section .. cheers

[@CODM-JAZZ]

What is the next step after this video ? I have to change that abs module?

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Once u establish the fact that the ABS module is shot, either send it for rebuild, or replace it. If u want to replace it, u will need a module that matches the two numbers on the right of the label and the one on the bottom below the bar code, programming with tech2 maybe required

[@CODM-JAZZ]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY this module have something to do with red relay r7 ? Because when i bypass relay 7 the car starts fine.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

@@CODM-JAZZ thats ur ECU relay, i dont think they r connected .. did u replace the relay ?

[@CODM-JAZZ]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY yes i have check all fuse and relays.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

@@CODM-JAZZ dont check it, just swap it, or check if u r receiving signal at the relay to turn it ON

[@jamesortiz4873]

Hola COMO Es stas

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

Hi there .

[@robrob476]

OR , just remove the fuse.

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

No .

[@xgod3026]

@@TheFlyingMechanicDIY why not I just bought a Saab and it has the same issue as this car I think. I try to start it and the traction control pops up along with the airbag manufacturer

[@TheFlyingMechanicDIY]

@@xgod3026 removing the fuse will not solve the issue .