Israel -Hamas War | ICJ commences procedure into alleged Israeli genocide in the Gaza

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@agathabovedaaguirre3904
@agathabovedaaguirre3904 9 ай бұрын
South Africa makes me feel some hope in humanity. History will remember your people as the only brave one
@rrose4841
@rrose4841 9 ай бұрын
I'll be impressed when our government cleans their own doorstep first!
@elkobit7415
@elkobit7415 9 ай бұрын
The rest supports Israel!
@helgapenzhorn796
@helgapenzhorn796 9 ай бұрын
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. 🙏
@rafickdomingo1082
@rafickdomingo1082 9 ай бұрын
It is not an issue whether south africa had standing. All Countries who signed andn ratified the genocide convention has standing to bring a case, which eminates from its obligations which arise
@hansonbiterson8464
@hansonbiterson8464 9 ай бұрын
Futile case: “In the 1990s, in the wake of large-scale massacres, the United Nations Security Council established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). The statutes of these courts adopted the definition of genocide from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention), which requires an “intent [by the accused] to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” to prove genocide. In practice, the tribunals have struggled to apply the intent requirement. The ICTR, in its first genocide conviction, ruled that intent may be inferred from certain presumptions of fact, including the general context of the acts in question and the nature and scale of atrocities. Later, the ICTY applied a “quantitative criterion” by ruling that any inference of genocidal intent requires that the accused’s actions affect a great number of people.” So the question is: what is a great number? And must it be proportional to the total group concerned? Is 1,000+ dead enough or should at least 1% of the population be killed? Or is 5% the minimum threshold for genocide? (see: the normally used p-value in sciences, except physics). Of course over a relative short time span. I would argue that 5% death of the civilian population is a reasonable threshold to begin to think about genocide; in e.g. Rwanda the number was 800+ KIA’s in 3 months on a relative small population. In WW2 about 4% of the Russian civil population was intentionally killed by Germany; this was not considered genocide. So, 5% of 2,2 million Palestinians is about 110.000 killed civilians; military KIA’s don’t count here because the goal of war is to destroy the enemy forces (i.c. Hamas). There are now allegedly around 20K dead Palestinians due to the war that is less than 1% of the total group of Palestinians in the Gaza strip. ERGO: contrary to the complaint of South Africa (‘s communist regime) lodged with the ICJ, committing “genocide” is not the case in the Israelian-Palestinian war. Hamas has caused a casus belli on October 7th 2023 and Israel responded. Hamas was aware of the fact that the IDF has superior weapons and Hamas was also aware that the Gaza strip is densely populated. A war of destruction of the opposite military (i.c. Hamas) is not per se illegal. Destruction of the enemies army is one of the goals of war. If the actions of the IDF are in compliance with LOAC the resulting civilian dead constitutes not necessarily genocide. The intention is lacking. The alleged high number of civilian casualties (collateral damage) in Gaza is mainly the result of the chosen military tactics of Hamas. The fact that the Hamas “combatants’’ use human shields, hide in tunnels under civilian infrastructure and use other illegal (from the point of view of LOAC) tactics leads to the conclusion that the government of the Gaza strip itself is responsible for the high number of casualties under it’s population. May be it is Hamas that should stop shooting missiles at Israel and surrender to the superior adverse military force if it wants to limit its civilian death number due to collateral damage.
@mansooraqureshi2696
@mansooraqureshi2696 9 ай бұрын
Salutes to SA,but the integrity of Judges is paramount, Juges can come under political pressure, so fingers crossed.
@qinby1182
@qinby1182 9 ай бұрын
If you go by "Geopolitical Lines" it is really down to what Russia and China do. Personally I find it hard to believe China and Russia would not support S.Africa's suit. Their interest in the middle east where the OIC, 57 Muslim countries support S. Africa, they really do not want to support Israel against the whole Muslim world.
@PointBlankZA
@PointBlankZA 9 ай бұрын
@@qinby1182 The problem is both Russia and China are being investigated about their own "genocide", so they too need to be considered as influenced.
@qinby1182
@qinby1182 9 ай бұрын
​ @PointBlankZA _" The problem is both Russia and China are being investigated about their own "genocide","_ NOT by the ICJ but the ICC Should add Israel is also investigated for Genocide by the ICC and that has been going on for years already and this is from 2014 and forwards. China, Russia, USA and India ARE NOT signatories to the ICC so the ICC have no jurisdiction. Secondly, that Putin is accused for evacuating children from a war zone IS REALLY LAME and in this case the "evidence" is a US State Department funded university report where EVEN THE AUTHOR OF THE REPORT say "this is not what the report say" In the case of China ALL "evidence" is from a religious nut case Adrian Zens "who is put on earth to fight communist China" He HAVE NO EVIDENCE and never been to China, do not speak chinese, never been to China what he does is "interpret" Chinese offical data. An example... Birth rates are sinking in Xinjiang This is used as an example of genocide. IN THE REST OF THE WORLD a sinking birthrate is an indicator of increased prosperity. By this "interpretation" the whole industrial world is conducting genocide against their own population. Many countries have ACTUALLY BEEN TO XINJIANG to check it out, among them the OIC (Organisation of Muslim Cooperation) 57 Muslim countries. Since the Uighurs are Muslim they were interested if China was murdering Muslims. In their report from visiting they commended China for how the Muslim's in Xinjiang were treated, their culture protected and their religion supported. So NO I do not believe that matters to China or Russia. What matters MUCH MORE is not ending up "defending Israel" against the whole Muslim World and their BRICS partner S.Africa. It is a HUUGE chance for China and Russia to "demonize" USA in front of the whole Muslim world for at least DECADES. A oportunity that can not be missed (in my view)
@sitihawakamis6735
@sitihawakamis6735 9 ай бұрын
Truth always stay forever
@hansonbiterson8464
@hansonbiterson8464 9 ай бұрын
“In the 1990s, in the wake of large-scale massacres, the United Nations Security Council established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). The statutes of these courts adopted the definition of genocide from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention), which requires an “intent [by the accused] to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” to prove genocide. In practice, the tribunals have struggled to apply the intent requirement. The ICTR, in its first genocide conviction, ruled that intent may be inferred from certain presumptions of fact, including the general context of the acts in question and the nature and scale of atrocities. Later, the ICTY applied a “quantitative criterion” by ruling that any inference of genocidal intent requires that the accused’s actions affect a great number of people.” So the question is: what is a great number? And must it be proportional to the total group concerned? Is 1,000+ dead enough or should at least 1% of the population be killed? Or is 5% the minimum threshold for genocide? (see: the normally used p-value in sciences, except physics). Of course over a relative short time span. I would argue that 5% death of the civilian population is a reasonable threshold to begin to think about genocide; in e.g. Rwanda the number was 800+ KIA’s in 3 months on a relative small population. In WW2 about 4% of the Russian civil population was intentionally killed by Germany; this was not considered genocide. So, 5% of 2,2 million Palestinians is about 110.000 killed civilians; military KIA’s don’t count here because the goal of war is to destroy the enemy forces (i.c. Hamas). There are now allegedly around 20K dead Palestinians due to the war that is less than 1% of the total group of Palestinians in the Gaza strip. ERGO: contrary to the complaint of South Africa (‘s communist regime) lodged with the ICJ, committing “genocide” is not the case in the Israelian-Palestinian war. Hamas has caused a casus belli on October 7th 2023 and Israel responded. Hamas was aware of the fact that the IDF has superior weapons and Hamas was also aware that the Gaza strip is densely populated. A war of destruction of the opposite military (i.c. Hamas) is not per se illegal. Destruction of the enemies army is one of the goals of war. If the actions of the IDF are in compliance with LOAC the resulting civilian dead constitutes not necessarily genocide. The intention is lacking. The alleged high number of civilian casualties (collateral damage) in Gaza is mainly the result of the chosen military tactics of Hamas. The fact that the Hamas “combatants’’ use human shields, hide in tunnels under civilian infrastructure and use other illegal (from the point of view of LOAC) tactics leads to the conclusion that the government of the Gaza strip itself is responsible for the high number of casualties under it’s population. May be it is Hamas that should stop shooting missiles at Israel and surrender to the superior adverse military force if it wants to limit its civilian death number due to collateral damage.
@soulstalgiarecords77740
@soulstalgiarecords77740 9 ай бұрын
Will those 'judges' use their judgement when coming to their decisions or will they simply be buttons that gets pressed by what their governments presses them to do?
@hansonbiterson8464
@hansonbiterson8464 9 ай бұрын
hahaha...complaint is a joke: “In the 1990s, in the wake of large-scale massacres, the United Nations Security Council established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). The statutes of these courts adopted the definition of genocide from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention), which requires an “intent [by the accused] to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” to prove genocide. In practice, the tribunals have struggled to apply the intent requirement. The ICTR, in its first genocide conviction, ruled that intent may be inferred from certain presumptions of fact, including the general context of the acts in question and the nature and scale of atrocities. Later, the ICTY applied a “quantitative criterion” by ruling that any inference of genocidal intent requires that the accused’s actions affect a great number of people.” So the question is: what is a great number? And must it be proportional to the total group concerned? Is 1,000+ dead enough or should at least 1% of the population be killed? Or is 5% the minimum threshold for genocide? (see: the normally used p-value in sciences, except physics). Of course over a relative short time span. I would argue that 5% death of the civilian population is a reasonable threshold to begin to think about genocide; in e.g. Rwanda the number was 800+ KIA’s in 3 months on a relative small population. In WW2 about 4% of the Russian civil population was intentionally killed by Germany; this was not considered genocide. So, 5% of 2,2 million Palestinians is about 110.000 killed civilians; military KIA’s don’t count here because the goal of war is to destroy the enemy forces (i.c. Hamas). There are now allegedly around 20K dead Palestinians due to the war that is less than 1% of the total group of Palestinians in the Gaza strip. ERGO: contrary to the complaint of South Africa (‘s communist regime) lodged with the ICJ, committing “genocide” is not the case in the Israelian-Palestinian war. Hamas has caused a casus belli on October 7th 2023 and Israel responded. Hamas was aware of the fact that the IDF has superior weapons and Hamas was also aware that the Gaza strip is densely populated. A war of destruction of the opposite military (i.c. Hamas) is not per se illegal. Destruction of the enemies army is one of the goals of war. If the actions of the IDF are in compliance with LOAC the resulting civilian dead constitutes not necessarily genocide. The intention is lacking. The alleged high number of civilian casualties (collateral damage) in Gaza is mainly the result of the chosen military tactics of Hamas. The fact that the Hamas “combatants’’ use human shields, hide in tunnels under civilian infrastructure and use other illegal (from the point of view of LOAC) tactics leads to the conclusion that the government of the Gaza strip itself is responsible for the high number of casualties under it’s population. May be it is Hamas that should stop shooting missiles at Israel and surrender to the superior adverse military force if it wants to limit its civilian death number due to collateral damage.
@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv
@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv 8 ай бұрын
I do not hear any on the genocide in Sudan Nigeria ,and the murdering of Kurds in Syria and Turkey? It looks so hypocrite.
@amaarahgarda4116
@amaarahgarda4116 9 ай бұрын
Dr Mbete, always clear! 💯🇵🇸
@En-myvh
@En-myvh 9 ай бұрын
what 100% you idiot
@hansonbiterson8464
@hansonbiterson8464 9 ай бұрын
“In the 1990s, in the wake of large-scale massacres, the United Nations Security Council established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). The statutes of these courts adopted the definition of genocide from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Genocide Convention), which requires an “intent [by the accused] to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” to prove genocide. In practice, the tribunals have struggled to apply the intent requirement. The ICTR, in its first genocide conviction, ruled that intent may be inferred from certain presumptions of fact, including the general context of the acts in question and the nature and scale of atrocities. Later, the ICTY applied a “quantitative criterion” by ruling that any inference of genocidal intent requires that the accused’s actions affect a great number of people.” So the question is: what is a great number? And must it be proportional to the total group concerned? Is 1,000+ dead enough or should at least 1% of the population be killed? Or is 5% the minimum threshold for genocide? (see: the normally used p-value in sciences, except physics). Of course over a relative short time span. I would argue that 5% death of the civilian population is a reasonable threshold to begin to think about genocide; in e.g. Rwanda the number was 800+ KIA’s in 3 months on a relative small population. In WW2 about 4% of the Russian civil population was intentionally killed by Germany; this was not considered genocide. So, 5% of 2,2 million Palestinians is about 110.000 killed civilians; military KIA’s don’t count here because the goal of war is to destroy the enemy forces (i.c. Hamas). There are now allegedly around 20K dead Palestinians due to the war that is less than 1% of the total group of Palestinians in the Gaza strip. ERGO: contrary to the complaint of South Africa (‘s communist regime) lodged with the ICJ, committing “genocide” is not the case in the Israelian-Palestinian war. Hamas has caused a casus belli on October 7th 2023 and Israel responded. Hamas was aware of the fact that the IDF has superior weapons and Hamas was also aware that the Gaza strip is densely populated. A war of destruction of the opposite military (i.c. Hamas) is not per se illegal. Destruction of the enemies army is one of the goals of war. If the actions of the IDF are in compliance with LOAC the resulting civilian dead constitutes not necessarily genocide. The intention is lacking. The alleged high number of civilian casualties (collateral damage) in Gaza is mainly the result of the chosen military tactics of Hamas. The fact that the Hamas “combatants’’ use human shields, hide in tunnels under civilian infrastructure and use other illegal (from the point of view of LOAC) tactics leads to the conclusion that the government of the Gaza strip itself is responsible for the high number of casualties under it’s population. May be it is Hamas that should stop shooting missiles at Israel and surrender to the superior adverse military force if it wants to limit its civilian death number due to collateral damage.
@ihavehighcholestorol
@ihavehighcholestorol 8 ай бұрын
@@hansonbiterson8464Are you gonna ignore the 750000 palestinians murdered/ displaced in 1948? Military occupation and colonizing in the West Bank?
@Groove328
@Groove328 9 ай бұрын
Respect for 🇿🇦 and Free 🇵🇸 ✊️ ✌️ Thank you SABC for providing a narrative that differs from the MSM.
@Mugairyuiai
@Mugairyuiai 9 ай бұрын
What's important to remember here, is that this case won't be decided by evidence but, by politics. The evidence is clear enough in a decision for South Africa s case against Israel however, you can already see who the judges and voting countries are, it's available online. When you take that into consideration it is unlikely that S A will win the case. It may be close but, we really need a couple to change their usual voting stance. Not sure why Uganda is so pro Israel, does anyone know why?
@lindokuhlechala8534
@lindokuhlechala8534 9 ай бұрын
I wish to know also but rumors says it's because Uganda is controlled by Germany.....
@RatieM64
@RatieM64 9 ай бұрын
Because Israel bought them off, why else???
@ImApringle
@ImApringle 9 ай бұрын
You havnt heard Israel’s response yet. The South African case is weak and filled with 2nd hand references, false allegations and has no merits
@Mugairyuiai
@Mugairyuiai 9 ай бұрын
@@ImApringle I beg to differ along with many that have first hand evidence that has been collected and submitted. It has also been qualified by top class lawyers and professionals as having merit. However the evidence is clear to see to all except those blinded by biases. Care to cite your sources? I didn't think so.
@thatosebotsane8017
@thatosebotsane8017 9 ай бұрын
@@ImApringleyou really are a pringle
@Nikky9s
@Nikky9s 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the clarification Dr. Mbete. A brilliant summary of the case.
@idarusabdalla-kw8dn
@idarusabdalla-kw8dn 8 ай бұрын
Already Israel is trying to doctor the outcome by trying to influence other countries to be on their side by sending letters to their ambassadors in the host countries to pressure them join but from the way the other counties voted Israel will soon be on its own
@yusufdevilliers503
@yusufdevilliers503 9 ай бұрын
What is alleged about the violations... Is the world blind
@Nandi2TheWorld
@Nandi2TheWorld 9 ай бұрын
Well done Dr Sithembele!!!
@JesusmySalvation
@JesusmySalvation 9 ай бұрын
I think south africa is gona get a history lesson from Israel 🇮🇱.
@BrianSwartz-n7j
@BrianSwartz-n7j 9 ай бұрын
Yeah?
@Oscarlk1080
@Oscarlk1080 9 ай бұрын
Thank you south Africa Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@elkobit7415
@elkobit7415 9 ай бұрын
Who is going to free Palestine????🤣🤣🤣
@chrisr4188
@chrisr4188 9 ай бұрын
Give the Jews Back Their Homeland
@fatimavorajee5975
@fatimavorajee5975 9 ай бұрын
What impact, if any, do the countries the judges are from can in any way influence the outcome of the judgement, Eg, , USA, UK, EU Australia, etc??
@EgorZA82
@EgorZA82 9 ай бұрын
It is a court case it not in a US courts, proof and facts will be the decision. Israel is fighting this because they know they don't have any other option , to be legally labeled as COMMITING genocide is bad yes they can choose to ignore it but that will have a very negative affect on the Zionist evil state
@Puta692
@Puta692 9 ай бұрын
Even though it is political but law has to be apply the law is the law whether you obey or not.
@RatieM64
@RatieM64 9 ай бұрын
These countries you mentioned have cosigned genocide. As it is they are beginning to walk back their permissiveness. They can see history will judge them badly. Worse still the population in those countries are advocating for GAZA and Palestine 🇵🇸 24/7. South Africa got out of the suffocation of apartheid because there was support from the ground internationally. The best this country can do is to payback those who supported it, including PALESTINE. So @fatimavorajee5975 if you have nothing positive to say...DULA FATSHE O NWE METSI.
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 9 ай бұрын
So israel should not have defended themselves and how much defense is enough, that's what most Muslim country's do
@yusufdevilliers503
@yusufdevilliers503 9 ай бұрын
Whats to defend, they're illegally occupying Palestinian land since 1948, and turned it into a euro Jewish apartheid state..
@rafickdomingo1082
@rafickdomingo1082 9 ай бұрын
Another ignorant fool.....you guys are alot
@strigatulromaniei3498
@strigatulromaniei3498 8 ай бұрын
What îs the difference between defend or revenge ? If you don't know what îs the difference i can teach you 😊 : It îs all about time ( Defend It means that you defend your self at that time someone try to attack you until the person who attack you end his attack .And the revange It means that you will attack him back not at the same time he attack you, but in the next day or long after that ) .
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 8 ай бұрын
Do you know Islam at all when they hate the Jews so they justify their actions by saying that Jesus was a Muslim so they will never say that he was Jewish born as a jew circumcised and lived as a jew ,your nonsense story of when they should have defended themselves
@ImApringle
@ImApringle 9 ай бұрын
South Africa is going to be schooled in international law next week.
@BrianSwartz-n7j
@BrianSwartz-n7j 9 ай бұрын
If many of the wrstern nations are more inteligent ans better how come they cannot make up their own minds. But let o[hers think and decide for them?
@trevorstringer4029
@trevorstringer4029 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps the South African government should stabilize the electricity grid, we also have no water, right now if I open a tap not a drop comes out of it, quite pathetic, Johannesburg doesnt look allot better than the images above. We are in a crisis 😢 and our leader is distracted.
@foxhound4218
@foxhound4218 9 ай бұрын
Instead of investigating Hamas....
@annaan8232
@annaan8232 9 ай бұрын
This is understandable: anti-Semitism rules the world. Everyone is shouting about the "oppressed Palestinians" who have been terrorizing Israel for more than 75 years and demanding that the territory of Israel belong to them "from the river to the sea", a territory that has never been a state of Arabs, but was the Kingdom of Judea once. The Palestinian Arabs could have created their own state several times over the years, but they did not want and do not want a peace, they want to destroy Israel. Remember: the Hamas atrocities of 7.10, were followed by an anti-Israeli demonstration long before the war in Gaza actually began. And the Israelis began their actions by warning Gazans, by sending them messages about which part of the territory they were going to fight with Hamas. Who does it usually during the war? BEFORE the start of war there were demonstrations with slogans "Gas the Jews" and "Genocide the Jews" in University campuses of US. So shameful! This small Jewish state is hated by many anti-Semites on this planet. I support Israel. And the best way to deal with it is to accuse Israelis in genocide. Brilliant!
@PhillipaSilke
@PhillipaSilke 9 ай бұрын
SA is a DISGRACE
@oblomofff
@oblomofff 9 ай бұрын
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏🙏🙏🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴
@yaisa111
@yaisa111 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate you Dr~ is there a link anywhere where we can watch the trial live? 🍉🇵🇸✊🏽🙏🏽🌬End The Siege End The Genocide Stop The Genocide
@ThaboNyamo
@ThaboNyamo 9 ай бұрын
From SA that broke the icc lwas twice allready😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Go sleep.
@raydanielz9408
@raydanielz9408 9 ай бұрын
O stlaela sa bofelo. Shut up because you are out of touch with reality of this world. Go and get drunk, that's what you do best anyway
@MultiMediaEvan
@MultiMediaEvan 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha yeah South Africa, what a stupid country. But at least they're not committing genocide, unlike Israel. Thanks for the observation, genius! 😂
@BrianSwartz-n7j
@BrianSwartz-n7j 9 ай бұрын
Icc do not want to procecute israel.. They are created to benefit certain countries
@hansonbiterson8464
@hansonbiterson8464 9 ай бұрын
SA......Hmmmmm....
@mvdwillik5991
@mvdwillik5991 9 ай бұрын
She do not speak on behalf of all S.A. only speaking for A.N.C, EFF ect.
@fatimavorajee5975
@fatimavorajee5975 9 ай бұрын
Justice and Freedom for Palestine
@shanaazabrahams1319
@shanaazabrahams1319 9 ай бұрын
And none for South Africans
@user-lh7yi9uq4d
@user-lh7yi9uq4d 9 ай бұрын
She talks for me.
@user-lh7yi9uq4d
@user-lh7yi9uq4d 9 ай бұрын
​@@shanaazabrahams1319 She talks for me
@masterp5902
@masterp5902 9 ай бұрын
who cares?
@Shan_123.-
@Shan_123.- 8 ай бұрын
SA took wrong decision.
@FreckleKidz
@FreckleKidz 9 ай бұрын
#FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸 #EQUALITYFOR PALESTINIANS 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@iehb505
@iehb505 9 ай бұрын
Free Gaza from Hamas
@bo2.4u6
@bo2.4u6 9 ай бұрын
It's been said that there are no laws, "only men with guns" v
@abelsonkalu9862
@abelsonkalu9862 8 ай бұрын
What is the meaning of genocide when in the full scale of war, maybe because ISREAL is involved. Who started the genocidal war. Can We stop fueling this crises.
@TheArchives111
@TheArchives111 8 ай бұрын
Gilad Erdan must also file a Territorial Violation case against Gaza Authority of allowing Hamas to build cross border tunnels into Israel. How you like it if your neighbor builds a tunnel under your house to surface in your garden?
@strigatulromaniei3498
@strigatulromaniei3498 8 ай бұрын
Did hamas build tunels also in to Isdrael ??? I ask You that because the ambasador of Isdrael from UK say that the IDF will bomb all the surfaces that tunels exist . 😮😮😮
@everydalife
@everydalife 9 ай бұрын
They now say it's 32000
@safiakhan4497
@safiakhan4497 9 ай бұрын
Freedom for Palestine 🇵🇸
@iehb505
@iehb505 9 ай бұрын
Free Gaza from Hamas
@chrisr4188
@chrisr4188 9 ай бұрын
Free the Middle East from radical Islam
@EgorZA82
@EgorZA82 9 ай бұрын
I may take 5 years but there iw wnouth proof for the court to order a stop untill the case is over
@PhillipaSilke
@PhillipaSilke 9 ай бұрын
FAKE FAKE FAKE. Jew hatred. G d blesses those who bless Israel, and curses those who curse Israel. We lil wait for things to unfold…….
@SueCooper-mn5yz
@SueCooper-mn5yz 9 ай бұрын
I have a headache
@shazk9170
@shazk9170 9 ай бұрын
Satanyahu doesnt care about reputation. So what then if the massacres continue in Palestine?
@JeshuaOurGod
@JeshuaOurGod 9 ай бұрын
Oh okay, and what about Ukraine? Where was the ANC then? You are all Hypocrites! You don't speak for us! Speak for yourself
@tapwater76
@tapwater76 9 ай бұрын
More likely they will continue. Silence will almost be to condone, rather they ignore than not voicing our condemnation
@adamali2599
@adamali2599 9 ай бұрын
We cross the fingers .......... But, make no mistake this case will show us how crazy this world is ............. Not only the western countries, but also China and Russia will be put in a very hot spot ........ All of them have judge representing them ......... Will they support SA and condem Israel and take revange of the western countries that accused and condem them in (Ukraine- The muslim Uhyger) or will they chicken out ........... I can't wait to find out ......... Please go online and check the judge's nationality to see how big this would be
@iehb505
@iehb505 9 ай бұрын
Hamas is to blame for the Gaza deaths by their use of civilians as human shields
@adamali2599
@adamali2599 9 ай бұрын
@@iehb505 Bro, if you can't say the names and the numbers of the Hamas member you have killed ......... You would be accused for war crime (killing civilian)......... So stop the crazy nonsense ......... It is a court case not propagnda to win a debate
@EgorZA82
@EgorZA82 9 ай бұрын
Hey SABC stop saying alleg go read the case file
@phineasmasori3540
@phineasmasori3540 9 ай бұрын
Benjamin stonyehu doesn't people
@TheThoughtfulMinority2067
@TheThoughtfulMinority2067 9 ай бұрын
Don't count on the ICJ to do the right thing! Eight of the current judges would vote in favour of Israel if politics overrule the law. From Halper/Finkelstein. A win for Palestine won't happen without a very strong lobbying effort and a conscience vote by a couple of judges. Please everyone, make your voices heard now!
@NafeezaAlly-eg4ck
@NafeezaAlly-eg4ck 9 ай бұрын
Anyone with a brain and eyes to see will call it a Genocide , so if judges vote differently they lose all credibility
@NafeezaAlly-eg4ck
@NafeezaAlly-eg4ck 9 ай бұрын
blind people can hear the Genocide language from israel
@TheThoughtfulMinority2067
@TheThoughtfulMinority2067 9 ай бұрын
@@NafeezaAlly-eg4ck If judges follow politics then USA will support Israel, RUS/CHINA are also charged with Genocide, Uganda will support Israel, India will support Israel, Japan will vote with USA, GER will support Israel, AUS will support Israel. That's 8/15 which is a win for Israel.
@mirzafc1007
@mirzafc1007 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheThoughtfulMinority2067 someone definitely wants this war to burn the world. Youre no human.
@EgorZA82
@EgorZA82 9 ай бұрын
No country will they alk know it's genocide
@grainofsalt2113
@grainofsalt2113 8 ай бұрын
Israel has to be held accountable. The massacres of Palestinians are horrendous
@ronelpeens7366
@ronelpeens7366 9 ай бұрын
anc complaining about another guavamint?!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tapwater76
@tapwater76 9 ай бұрын
It kind of shows how much U value life. People are dying there. It is one thing dying out of natural causes but being killed is another. Spare a thought for those children who I suspect would have wished to live one day more. Yes we do have killings in the country but not excecuted by government
@ronelpeens7366
@ronelpeens7366 9 ай бұрын
@@tapwater76 please remove your pan african goggles ..look how many rapes and murders daily under your beloved anc GREEDY SWINES! Why don't you spare a thought for our children? Oh so you think rape and violent deaths are natural causes in SA? Just WOW!
@shanaazabrahams1319
@shanaazabrahams1319 9 ай бұрын
What has guavas and mints have to do with it. What is guavamints
@ronelpeens7366
@ronelpeens7366 9 ай бұрын
@@shanaazabrahams1319 ever heard of a joke of a government run by useles clowns? So therefore they are thn referred to as guavamints? Any other questions ?
@TheArchives111
@TheArchives111 8 ай бұрын
Smotrich must also file a ICJ case against all the countries that supports Gaza Authority that allows and encourage 10 year old school childrens to smuggle weapons to Hamas as a supply chain.
@grainofsalt2113
@grainofsalt2113 8 ай бұрын
what standing does Smotrich have to bring an occupied territory before the ICJ? Would love to know your thoughts genius
@TheArchives111
@TheArchives111 8 ай бұрын
@@grainofsalt2113 What standing has any country got to violate the territorial rights of the neighbouring countries by drilling and digging tunnels crossing through borders?
@TheArchives111
@TheArchives111 8 ай бұрын
@@grainofsalt2113 Since Gaza Authority allows Hamas to fire rockets, missiles, seize hostages and murder Israeli civilians under their law of the jungle. Israel's military operations Iron Sword under UN Article 51, supersedes all other UN resolutions hatched by any UN nations against Article 51.
@francishooper9548
@francishooper9548 8 ай бұрын
The Gaza authoritie are Hamas.@@TheArchives111
@s.elh.3281
@s.elh.3281 8 ай бұрын
Thank you South Africa, whatever comes out of this, your move will be remembered in history. And shame on all those (especially Western) politicians who even now continue to support Israels military aggression. Just today, one day before the ICJ hearings begin, Germany's foreign minister declared she cannot see any sign for genocide on the Gazans. 🙈 I mean, I would rather shut my mouth and wait what the qualified judges have to say on this. What s shame...
@elkobit7415
@elkobit7415 9 ай бұрын
South Africa😅😅😅😅😅😅
@EdithAlexander
@EdithAlexander 9 ай бұрын
Funny how all these interviewees are all of a sudden so knowledgeable on the conflict in the Middle East. Will this case go anywhere?
@gohkianhui3997
@gohkianhui3997 9 ай бұрын
Cmon, have some faith in the lawyers to deliver justice based on the merits 😂 otherwise, what value does lawyer adds to society?
@Gee-mv4sk
@Gee-mv4sk 9 ай бұрын
I left SA during, and partly because of Apartheid. I'm white. For the first time I feel so proud to be a South African (apart from the rwc).
@rrose4841
@rrose4841 9 ай бұрын
You left, so have no idea how people live here now! Palestinians don't have access to meds, water etc etc? Nor do many South Africans "saved" by the end of Apartheid. Shame, inform yourself. Not too many in SA are impressed...
@joekulik999
@joekulik999 9 ай бұрын
Why do we need an Overpaid Egg Head Professor to tell us what we already know about this already Over Reported event ???
@biko8229
@biko8229 9 ай бұрын
You sound like an arrogant privileged apartheid beneficiary😂😂
@Uno_SA
@Uno_SA 9 ай бұрын
Go to sleep
@RatieM64
@RatieM64 9 ай бұрын
​​@@Uno_SAI agree... The GASLIGHTING MUST STOP. How many undeserving men,better still old Afrikaner men are always appearing giving analyses on our screens.This is an attempt to pull down a thriving BLACK WOMAN.
@joekulik999
@joekulik999 9 ай бұрын
@@RatieM64 She is Thriving ONLY because she has learned how to speak the White Man's Bull $hit.
@joekulik999
@joekulik999 9 ай бұрын
@@Uno_SA You are ALREADY Asleep, but Do NOT even know it. WAKE UP !!!
@FashionandFoodwithcurls
@FashionandFoodwithcurls 8 ай бұрын
It’s not a war on hamas it’s a war on civilians the tittle is wrong !
@dandananda
@dandananda 9 ай бұрын
Wow 84 pages?! Cannot possibly be total BS. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@SaphiaPacalundo
@SaphiaPacalundo 9 ай бұрын
Palestine will be free against occoupier, the other country help for the case for win
@chrisr4188
@chrisr4188 9 ай бұрын
the Jews were there first,,, the Muslims are the Occupiers
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