What the HELL is Strange Magic? (A Box Office DISASTER)

[@Saberspark]

Remember folks, Star Wars was made for 12 year old boys. George Lucas said so. Also follow me on Twitter so I can show off my awful shitposts twitter.com/Saberspark

[@motap4935]

wow

[@starling_song]

Saberspark HI

[@addisonavery9204]

As a 12 year old girl, I denounce this movie.

[@maurisa514]

Can you talk about doogle?

[@BrentLoaf]

kool

[@xela12345]

As a character designer, I really like the way the fairies' wings are animated, most people just have the wings flap and otherwise stay still, the way they bend and flex in this film looks so natural. Really they shouldn't have gone with such hyper realistic designs, but I really like the visuals besides that.

[@moodycowcrafts4862]

The wings are cool enough that I honestly want to cosplay marie-ann (even though its a legitimately poor film overall) It was watchable... but oh did some scenes make you whole body cringe - some of the songs rang like a budget pantomime with their introduction into the story

[@Ellisepha]

Honestly, the only reason I watched that movie was because I saw two girls cosplay Marianne and Dawn, and both their character designs and wings looked so good. I still don't know whether I like or hate that movie, but the wings animation +insect creatures were great

[@xela12345]

@@moodycowcrafts4862 Yeah, I'm a hobbyist character designer and artist, a lot of traits of even badly animated characters appeal to me which I can then use to create more appealing characters. I haven't actually seen the film though, only reviews.

[@xela12345]

@@Ellisepha Yeah, I'm a hobbyist character designer and artist, a lot of traits of even badly animated characters appeal to me which I can then use to create more appealing characters.

[@pinkajou656]

On my gosh, yes! Absolutely!

[@MonoEnta]

I love the concept of the “villian” falling in love with the hero, I wish there were more films with that plot it’s such a cute storyline

[@ryanfuller4401]

Akame ga kill, it's a pretty bomb anime.

[@parisheidi3119]

@@limink7558 is it free?

[@gcooper642]

Pride and Prejudice

[@tuesday1672]

Ikr? I love that trope

[@mrsinister8978]

Lion King 2 maybe? Batman Returns or almost every batman movie with Catwoman in it? The last crusade?

[@lastlife0726]

"Bog here isn't that bad of a guy." I mean he imprisoned the maker and distributor of date rape drugs so...

[@herpderp3916]

He imprisons druglords and restricts the availability of the materials used to make those drugs, AND is swift to respond to external threats against his kingdom. Dude is arguably a better leader than the fairy king. #BogDidNothingWrong

[@ranianilo]

@@herpderp3916 facts

[@perfect9561]

Bog is a chad and we know it😌

[@miizmi3660]

Then again he partook in the usage of the drug and only locked away said drug dealer when it didn't work for him soo.......😬

[@stormisuedonym4599]

@@miizmi3660 One could argue that part of his locking away said drug dealer was due to his realization of how awful said drug was.

[@linette4498]

I personally like strange magic, I still watch it. But there are some parts that are like really cringey but most of the time i loved it. I especially loved the bog kings mother, "I asked for a wedding, I'm now getting a funeral"

[@snakes3280]

Yes me too

[@jessicaarmstrong9039]

I loved it🧚🏼🧚🏻‍♀️👩🏻‍🎤🗡💔⚡️🙎🏼⚡️❤️‍🔥😡🌸🌸🧖‍♀️👩🏻‍🎤⚔️👽💙🖤

[@BK-is5fj]

She’s so obnoxious she’s funny 😆 I love when she gets tired of her son procrastinating telling Marianne and yells “NOOOOOW” lol

[@B1u3b3rryPancak3s]

Yeah!

[@orangeismyfavoritecolor]

I felt that way when I watched it a lot as a kid haha, I still think it’s okay. I think he ragged on the animation a little too hard, though I do agree with his points about the fairies’ faces (animation and looks). I think the wing animations look really cool though, very flappy Also, jukebox musicals are stinky, I agree with Saber on that too

[@mochibunnyan6556]

I actually liked how they didn’t suddenly make the “ugly” character suddenly attractive towards the end This is one of the movies I actually remember from my childhood :V

[@slashermaster28]

That right there has always been my favorite thing about this film. It's probably the first time I've seen an opposites attract story in a family film where neither love interest had to change his/her species to justify it.

[@llama_girl_101]

Me too!!!!!!!

[@llama_girl_101]

I still have the DVD

[@demonheart13]

@@slashermaster28 I especially love when the dad sees his daughter with the big king and is like... Oh... Okay, and then he sees his younger daughter with the sprite and he just kinda gives up on controlling his children

[@gachasins699]

This was my favourite movie of all time. Still is.

[@suemccashland]

"im going to rip your wings off, my pretty little fairy princess." dawn: kinky

[@holygrailforedgykidz4511]

All i hear when I read this is Angel Dust saying "Kinky"

[@thisgurllol7330]

@@holygrailforedgykidz4511 her name is Dawn she has a name

[@sakabambaspiss]

@@thisgurllol7330 they were referring to a character from another show. It doesn't have anything to do with Dawn lmao

[@WolfWiz99]

@@thisgurllol7330 lol they meant Angel Dust from Hazbin Hotel, although I can see why you'd mistake it for a disparaging nickname for Dawn 🧚🏼‍♀️

[@shawnsanders6101]

Stardust: kinky

[@solentsquared6719]

THIS MOVIE HAS BEEN STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR MONTHS BECAUSE I SAW IT ONCE AS A KID AND COULDNT REMEMBER ALMOST ANYTHING ABOUT IT EXCEPT THE “WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER” BIT HOLY JESUS IVE FOUND IT

[@rebutiathesandwing8758]

SAME

[@haydenmagoon7825]

HAHA I ONLY REMEMBERED THE KISSING SCENE WHERE THEY WERE SPINNING IN THE AIR AND I WAS JUST LIKE “what the hell is that even a movie?”

[@hoshiko7175]

SAME

[@_editor_3395]

Love when that happens, but I had the same thing with that song, I could also remember the sister falling in love with the bog king

[@br33dycheese44]

FUCKING SAMEEE

[@destinipettus9948]

I can't help but feel sorry when people spend such a long time making a movie only for it to fail so terribly. I know he's like stupid rich, but still.

[@andresamaya6187]

I think your feelings are on the right spot, and there's still the persons working on smaller posts inside production that are more affected than the higher ups, so you good

[@azazazz099]

usually i’d only care if it was an indie company or some company that is struggling but really tried and just needs a bigger budget or better marketing team.. but i still feel a little bad for this one too. just because he spent 15 years creating this movie, it wasn’t just for a cash grab, but genuine interest.

[@nintendogh0st]

“He’s like one of the biggest simps I’ve ever seen” •Mordecai has joined the battle•

[@christianfarren1179]

Upper Class Twit of the Year: Fantasy Edition

[@MMumbles]

A new challenger appears: Finn the Human

[@EdwardsKitty]

*Brock enters the chat*

[@saphirawinters7028]

Ash Ketchum has entered.

[@unknown509]

I enter the chat

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

What pisses me off about this movie is that the world building and premise have potential. Not only that, Marianne and Bog’s chemistry is absolutely brilliant. It absolutely feels 100% earned when they end up together in the end. The story should have been about them not everything else. George has good ideas but can never execute them well on his own.

[@josephsoule3200]

Ain't that the truth.

[@Normaschthewanderer]

He was trying to make Star Wars for girls. My question is why did he think this was the natural conclusion to that end.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

@@Normaschthewanderer Also it's like why are you saying it's Star Wars for girls? Are your movies not for girls too? But on top of that, having one of your main characters use a date rape drug on one of your female protagonists in a movie aimed toward girls and having her end up with him anyway is just also incredibly fucked up.

[@Normaschthewanderer]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 agreed on all fronts. I think his efforts in this production were very misguided.

[@kecym.4808]

yea

[@mariajimenafigueroa8311]

Tinker Bell + Epic + Frozen + Shrek + Rise of The Guardians + James Cameron's Avatar + Beauty & The Beast + Pop songs + Uncanney valley = This

[@slytheringuy0529]

and Trolls

[@hal-fling]

Yes

[@Music_Nerd]

And now let's take a loo- oh God

[@mintstarmari]

@@slytheringuy0529 Trolls came out a year and half later.

[@slytheringuy0529]

@@mintstarmari Yes, I know that but Both Movies are so similar.

[@flowerzforsaturn]

I loved Marianne and Bogs chemistry but the constant songs were definitely tiring and the fact that they were covers didn’t help. The only singing scene I didn’t mind was when they sang Strange Magic since I thought it was really cute. I also don’t think Dawn and Sunny should have ended up together but if they had to at least have Sunny apologize for trying to use the potion on her. I wish they focused more on marianne and bogs relationship and how they feel like they can’t be together since they’re from different kingdoms. Overall it’s not the worst movie ever it definitely had good moments and I even laughed at some parts but the tropes and covers made me like it less

[@EH-vzzy]

Yeah I agree with this, I feel like Dawn and Sunny relationship wasn't built on enough respect to be a romantic relationship. But the build up of Bog and Marianne would be cool to see

[@ReikoMondschatten]

It's called a jukebox musical.

[@saradrawsstuff]

Was anyone else obsessed with this movie for 1 or 2 months or was I just that weird.

[@Slo426]

I’m in that faze right now😭😭

[@optative2389]

I was when we first got the dvd. At least I'm not alone!

[@Carma666]

YES WHEN I WAS LIKE 6 ME AND MY FRIEND WOULD WATCH IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN-

[@Farmdafish]

I was like that and tbh i still enjoy the movie

[@spectralquill1810]

Yeah the movie's storyline is actually great. People only didn't like it because of their first impression with the design. Sad

[@artsyryder]

I'll be honest, I got a personal soft spot for this movie. I enjoyed and loved all the songs. It could've been better but I've seen so much worse

[@spectralquill1810]

Yeah. I'm going to have to say this but many movies today like UDM and Addams Family have great design but horrible storylines. Just my opinion though.

[@Quackadoodleoodle]

Sameee

[@gayfanta9254]

Same.

[@satsujin4027]

I disagree with the music part. It would have been muuuch more enjoyable if the songs were original, instead of just picking popular songs. That made sense in the movie SING, but not in this one.

[@nataliebalic2613]

Honestly same, I enjoyed the music aswell as the characters

[@GeneralNuisance00]

"Star Wars for Girls" has the same energy as "Doritos for women" or that Japanese laptop (with like no features) marketed as "just for women."

[@starsymcdoodle6965]

"Water, but, like, for the ones that have boobs"

[@zeallust8542]

@★Zoechu★ do they taste good doe

[@zeallust8542]

@★Zoechu★ I can't find anything about monster energy drinks for girls. Just their little hype squad of girls.

[@GeneralNuisance00]

@Stewart Moran 8 year old me, their target audience, didnt get the need for Lego Friends. 8 year old me just thought they were Legos but ugly and lame.

[@MrRuano825]

Monopoly for Women sure wasn't a terrible idea that just proved that the people complaining about sexism were just misandrists.

[@Lis-ard]

This movie seemed to have _so_ much potential. The characters, the plot, the world itself. I would love for this film to have an opportunity to be remastered. And the Bog King could get it, ngl

[@Buzzbuzzbuzzbuzz-]

💀

[@thescreenslaver8520]

Not only is Strange Magic a jukebox musical but it has *13 SONG!* The average Disney movie has 6 songs!

[@Musicanimedork01]

And theyre all absolute dogshit cover versions ! The only one I appreciated I dont think is even on the soundtrack; when the fairy army is marching they're chanting the beginning of "bad romance". Fitting, funny, and a unique use for a well known song. Not just disrupting the movie to become a music video for several minutes.

[@12345678abracadabra]

@@Musicanimedork01 13 isn't that weird. Normal musicals can have more than 20

[@Musicanimedork01]

@@12345678abracadabra valid. Though I feel like for a jukebox musical that's rather... overwhelming? This movie felt like rather than the songs being intertwined with the plot the story just grinds to a halt to play a song kids probably haven't heard. (I for one had never heard the titular song before this)

[@jayy.8934]

cellspex?

[@chrsmueller923]

Did you get that from Cellspex?

[@philipcheng1618]

I feel kinda bad for the people working on this, its so unique...yet so generic? Reminds me of Blue Sky Studio's "Epic" movie.

[@expendableindigo9639]

Yeah I always confused it with Epic.

[@Phoen1xFeathers]

Epic is my guilty pleasure. I just love it so much

[@theluiginoidperson1097]

I just died inside, for I DID NOT, need to remember that film. I do not like it.

[@livesathome2475]

Ok

[@the1nf3r10rone]

Omg, YES-

[@skippingstep1515]

STAR WARS: "For 12 year old boys." Also STAR WARS: *Has a scene where you can hear Han's tortured screaming*

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@imsorryrumham7686 well boys would not object to that content (｡•̀ᴗ-)

[@cintronproductions9430]

Has a scene where the clones betray the people that trusted them and proceed to go on a Jedi genocide as Yoda clutches his chest in agony, sensing the pain and horror of his friends being killed by the ones that were fighting with them, not against them.

[@skippingstep1515]

@@cintronproductions9430 You know, for kids.

[@lizardzilla]

Has Jar Jar existing

[@Jockec]

@★Zoechu★ those are my faouvorite scenes

[@MMELANDREA27.]

Tbh, I was obsessed with this movie, and I still love it to this day 😌

[@HiraKuran]

Yasss me too 💖

[@jessicaarmstrong9039]

Love it🧚🏻‍♀️⚡️🙎🏼⚡️💔❤️‍🔥😡🌸🌸🌸🌸👩🏻‍🎤⚔️👽💙🖤🌌🧖‍♀️

[@sarahhiversoeur3759]

I respect your opinion on this movie, it's actually better than some other garbage movies out there

[@awkward_artist2366]

Same ^^

[@t0adstoolll]

I remember watching it a long while ago and really liking it lol so i have fond memories of it

[@TDM1138]

“Dialogue is awkward and wonky.” I mean, that’s pretty much George Lucas dialogue.

[@98953812]

*Sand flashbacks*

[@notoriousblt1038]

I WISH I COULD JUST WISH MY FEELINGS AWAY

[@AmericanChoirboy]

@@notoriousblt1038 NO, NO ITS BECAUSE IM SO IN LOVE WITH YOU!!!!!!!

[@LoneWanderer-by6tv]

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sterling7]

It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere?

[@mess4501]

Ouch. Imagine having a movie idea for 15 years and then when it finally becomes a movie it fails and earns the worst title ever.

[@alienenby]

Ow...my pride

[@johncalsado445]

@TheOtherAlien X same i also liked this movie

[@TYcarterTracks]

well when you make the most popular movie in all of movie history its hard to create anything that can compare. . look at james cameron he gave us the terminator and the best alien film along with tons of ground breaking movies and even has the top 2 highest grossing films of all time with titanic and avatar. but because he made titanic which is next to perfect for what it is. avatar got shit on by fans and everything hes worked on since then gets looked at like its not as good as titanic ........everyone compares all his work to the bar he set 20 years ago and thats the same with lucas

[@tigerfalco]

me worried about publishing my book that I started making 9-10 years ago

[@chocolatecharley99]

@@TYcarterTracks Yeah, but it's like he didn't really try for this one. Maybe at most, kids would think it's okay, but to think that they would be obsessed with it and create a whole huge fandom around it is kind of insulting

[@rolandpeterson836]

Here's the thing about 'Strange Magic', it is solidly in the 'Cult Classic' category. It's not good enough to have done well with a mainstream audience, but it is good enough to have 'AN' audience. I know people who LOVE this movie, but it's not for everyone. It's definitely one of those where you have to watch it yourself and make your own judgement on it.

[@anonview]

Well said! My friends are meh about this movie, but as someone who loves both fairy tales and upbeat musicals, Strange Magic is exactly what I want in an animated film. It feels like something was finally made especially for me, rather than to chase some popular but fleeting trend.

[@ceebbees12345]

@@anonview Exactly! So many comments saying the music was a detriment, I actually really enjoyed that aspect as well?

[@GhostiRose]

Yes I absolutely love this movie it’s sad to see people hate on it so much…

[@edizgunes]

I liked it as a kid and now it is a utter piece of garbage that is objectively worse than Attack of thr Clones

[@francaduijzer5700]

I feel like that's definitely true, personally I LOVe it, I've watched it about 15 times now, but I can totally see why some people think it's a bad movie lol

[@reyugii6544]

I loved Strange Magic it was my childhood movie. The plot was a little “Strange” but the the enemy’s to lovers concept was what made me love it so much

[@JoyOfCreativeService]

The fairies have mouths that you'd see in, like, vore art or something.

[@wonsandonly]

Lmao yeah they're plenty of those on deviant art

[@meatloafer2762]

STOP YOU'RE GIVING THE RULE 34 ARTISTS MORE IDEAS

[@washedblue]

we didn't need that visual

[@quitequeerquesadilla]

Please don’t remind me I’m already ashamed enough of the communities I’m part of

[@raptyrn1290]

Fairy mawshot bruh

[@110_Octane]

This sounds like a passion project for george lucas rather than being a money-making movie

[@38procentkrytyk]

George loves those actually. Even the Crystal Scull wasn't money-making project. It was saying goodbye to aging character leaving space for new generation.

[@johnnoahdeandres9458]

True

[@zanamisten8554]

I enjoyed it really, and you can totally tell that this just screams PASSION PROJECT, I mean 15 years before production? Dam

[@blondetapperware8289]

That's because it is a passion project

[@lanceturley7745]

That's one thing I will always give Lucas credit for; he doesn't do cash grabs. The original Star Wars films gave him enough "fuck you" money to do whatever he wanted, and you can tell everything he has done since were projects he was genuinely interested in making. They're not always *good,* but at least George has some integrity.

[@breachan5465]

I just want to mention that the fairies/elves kingdom had something i had never seen before. female fairies with butterfly, shimmery gossamer, wings. While the males had moth wings, while still beautiful, they were dusty, fluffy and more dull in comparison. Also, I hate Roland, but everything to do with his character felt perfect for the person he was meant to be. I was very happy that he wasn't a villian with just another redemption arc, glad he sucked from start to finish.

[@JackalopeBunny]

He is someone you can hate and not feel bad about it.

[@LocalGooberGoobs]

Jackalope I agree! I also loved the designs of the characters as well! (Aside from Roland and some others)

[@Freezient]

Don’t fairies usually have shimmery butterfly/moth wings anyway? I guess its less common

[@reiphas]

Yes, I love a good, cliched, cartoony even antagonist from time to time that is irredeemable.

[@feyefall4855]

@@Freezient I think they were pointing out the difference between male and female wings, that the difference was neat.

[@benj2592]

I actually liked this movie a lot. Even my father who always prefer action themes laughed in some scenes. If this was released on Netflix someday, I'm sure it would be trending. Strange Magic and also Epic were great!

[@jessicaarmstrong9039]

Omg 🧚🏻‍♀️🧚🏼💔⚡️🙎🏼⚡️❤️‍🔥😡🌸🌸🌸👩🏻‍🎤⚔️👽🐜🪳🐾🦗🦟

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Yeah. I actually like the Epic movie, especially how hilarious the slow-motion scene. _"I BROKE MY ELBOW!"_

[@lmao111yearsago9]

"Star wars was made for 12 year old boys" My 41 year old dad: 👁👄👁

[@lezandstuff]

Lucky All my dad likes is fixing cars and his job is making sinks. He also occasionally attempts to sing mexican songs out loud like a mariachi and his voice echos throughout the house.

[@DianXxX]

@@lezandstuff Lucky Everytime my family has dinner my mom plays her *chillaxe play list* and you hear screaming heavy metal in your ear.

[@krinchkronch]

My 63 year old dad:

[@seilferif8065]

My thirteen year old self:

[@rainiix_4770]

Same I learned Star Wars from my 40 year old dad when I was 4 and I’m a girl

[@flora_lwl]

I remember watching this in my 3rd grade class because the teacher couldn’t get access to a Rio dvd and thought “Hey! This movie has nature in it and it’s for kids! Just like Rio!” After that, all of the kids in my class felt so awkward after the movie and didn’t really speak for the rest of the day.

[@muhammadsoleh4725]

LOL

[@Mael_Str0M]

Damn I feel bad for you.

[@ActuallyYoda69]

It's better for watching at home really. It's also better for slightly older kids. Made 12-13 year olds. I'm 15 and still like it though so I dunno

[@cybored3102]

...

[@ashley2319x]

I feel old... In 3rd grade I watched FernGully in class lol 😅 And it was a VHS... I'm 24... Didn't think I'd feel so old at my age lol 😂

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

The fact that the physically unattractive character was nice on the inside, got a physically attractive romantic partner & a happy ending is exceptionally rare. I really liked this film & although there were a lot of tropes overall it felt pretty fresh & unique.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

SHREK

[@fairoadiary]

CartoonishIdealism EXACTLY AND MEGAMIND

[@shiz1245]

shrek and megamind both have that „good“ or „likable“ character look but bug king looks straight up like a monster with the most typical villain design, so yeah it was very surprising he ended up being the love interest

[@ameliacrowe4492]

@@fairoadiary Megamind was unattractive????

[@Monie71793]

@@ameliacrowe4492 I genuinely thought he was more attractive than Metro Man. 😩😂 I expressed this to my cousin & she agreed. 😆

[@yiyang2964]

From 17:26 to 17:42, you mentioned that Roland’s design look like Prince Charming and sounds like Gaston. I’m glad you mentioned both Prince Charming and Gaston. Because there’s fun fact about the two of them(Gaston and Prince Charming), the thing is, Rupert Everett(the voice actor for Charming) auditioned for role of Gaston, but the directors said he didn’t sound arrogant enough. He remembered this when he was voicing Charming in Shrek 2. I should also mentioned the inspiration of Roland comes from Prince Hans of the Southern Isles(another Disney villain), he’s the guy who apparently love Anna but left her to freeze to death. Anyways, I feel like Roland reminds me of Prince Charming from Shrek 2 than Gaston and Hans altogether. In contrast, they’re both narcissistic, conceited, selfish, and think they can get what they wanted. Roland wanted to get marry with Marianne so he can have his free armies while Charming wanted to get marry with Fiona so he can become king. They both have sinister motives. The only differences is that Prince Charming is “mommy’s boy” while Roland is not. However, they’re still similar. Speaking of which, I see Marianne reminds of me of Princess Fiona from Shrek because they’re both strong, tough, and know how to put up a fight. Meanwhile, I see the Bog King as Shrek a little. They’re both single at the beginning and are grumpy at first sight. However, the differences the Bog King have servants and a mother who cares about the Bog King while Shrek doesn’t have anybody in the beginning. Sorry, Shrek. Actually, I feel Strange Magic reminds me of Shrek franchise characters. They both have similar message too which is loving someone on the inside and don’t judge their appearance that much. Edit: Even though this is already edited, I should also mention that the Bog King’s mother is kind of like Donkey from Shrek. They’re both annoying but still give pretty good advice about love. Another fun fact: the Bog King’s mother is voiced by Maya Rudolph. She also happens to voice Rapunzel in Shrek The Third.

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

Honestly with a few fixes to the uncanny designs, removal of the generic pop songs and maybe a bit more polish to the story this could have been a decent film

[@theloczek9582]

Yeah wheres the death metal

[@theperson_12]

don't remove the polish or else the world will get angry at you like they did at germany in 1939

[@dr.velious5411]

@@theperson_12 That's a terrible joke, have a thumbs up.

[@sweetiedrops7484]

This comment is at 666 likes 👀

[@meanyapickles]

I know! I keep imagining how a remake of this could be if it had some better character designs and shit... like love potions are super fucked up, and the fact that Sonny was gonna use one on his crush and then he ends up getting with her and receives no repercussions for that? Kinda icky man. I'd love to see original songs for this made

[@vsGoliath96]

"He said Star Wars was made for 12 year old boys..." George Lucas says a lot of things. Many of them are incorrect.

[@samlerf]

And many people think having a youtube account means their opinion is fact. Perhaps this could help: "The Force Awakens vs. The Prequels, or: So this is how personal expression dies, to thunderous applause" by Rick Worley (free Internet Essay) Paul F. McDonald: The Star Wars Heresies: Interpreting the Themes, Symbols and Philosophies of Episodes I, II and III. (book)

[@beckoningjinx1119]

@@samlerf What about the time George essentially cancelled a Star Wars videogame because he didn't know the universe he created. Fact fiend goes over this in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/haqwlJJmqsyKZrs They also go over other instances of this in other videos.

[@Schokofussel]

Some people say animations are for kids. *Thinks about all the adults sitting in the cinema watching Spongebob and Simpsons and Attack on Titan and... well without their children* Me: *Watching only cartoons because f these people.*

[@luallual8180]

Hes kinda right. Not saying that if you arent 12 you arent allowed to enjoy it, i think what he meant when he said that was that they are the target audience

[@JaneDoe-gu5sb]

@@Schokofussel You are on Cocoa Puffs if you think Attack On Titan is for children.

[@Iridys]

When I heard “made for 12 year old boys” my mind went to the scene of Leia kissing Luke and the romance in Star Wars in general...O.o

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Maybe I'm weird but I liked romance in my stories even younger than that. Tommy and Kimberly in Power Rangers was my OTP during season 2, when I was 8.

[@r4ndom7000]

Why?

[@somebodyoncetoldme5864]

why?

[@Iridys]

That’s not something I would put in a movie for 12 year old boys. I always thought it was meant for an adult audience. Young adult at minimum.

[@adondriel]

@@Iridys kids learn about love VERY early.

[@DH-gq7bm]

When I watched this the first time the movie buffered right as roland yelled go with the zoom in on his face. It stayed frozen that way for like 10 minutes it was so damn hilarious I still love that scene, thanks for making it a meme for me to laugh my ass off.

[@SpookyTanukiGaming]

It’s hard to include love potions in a story without it being rapey.

[@Chara_Dreemurr001]

**politely inserts every shrek movie**

[@randomtraveler4149]

Well. That could be a theme for a movie or a novel.

[@theslayerfreak]

😂 wtf, Shrek 2 didn't get rapey

[@anneliesew4853]

Sunny is the most annoying character ever. He actually reminds me of Hal from Megamind. AND HE'S THE VILLAIN

[@theslayerfreak]

@@anneliesew4853 Hal: I think a bee flew up my nose

[@bluelfsuma]

Imagine if the Imp was Aphrodite in disguise. She was the OG shipper.

[@alicevicariously2396]

Ahhh don't make me think

[@JackalopeBunny]

I actually enjoyed the imp, but he was a mouse and calling him The Imp was so weird to me. He didn't seem imp like.

[@ichigoeater]

I think it was supposed to be a replacement for Puck, who was in A Midsummer's Night Dream, spreading the love potion irresponsibly everywhere.

[@dysn3961]

@@JackalopeBunny He seemed like a mix between a mouse and a possum

[@Fishy77777]

It shocks me that this movie was rated lower than the musical *Cats*

[@Nina-ho3qi]

Oh it is? What the actual hell is wrong with people...? ('-'*ゞ

[@vanrogods]

The musical is amaizing but the movie is just the complete opposite

[@jiayi5829]

Cats is a nightmare it disgusting I rather watch a movie with blank screen

[@subnautical_vibxs7537]

Heyy, i like cats :c

[@Kenny-jl1st]

Y e a h also nice pfp and username

[@PinkPanther45518]

I may be a minority on this. I love this movie a lot! I thoureghly enjoy this interesting romantic movie so much!☺️💖 I think it is super interesting and a nice fresh breath of air from those becoming stale beauty and the beasts type of movies. I think one big reason I liked the movie was how they handled making King Bog and Marianne's blooming relationship feel so real, at least to me. They felt like real characters, with real legitimate issues that they both faced. They felt, to me at least, very relatable. Bog King felt that because of the way he looked to others that he could never be loved, he had crippling low self esteem. He so desperately wanted love from anyone that he made the horribly selfish decision to force a person to love him. Marianne thought the man she had been with for who knows how long truly loved her, she was blinded by rose tinted glasses only to be heavily let down by someone she truly loved. Which not only left her with trust issues, but also wounded her self esteem a bit as well. As goofy as this movie can be at times, Marianne and Bogs relationship feels really real. To me at least. I enjoyed it a lot.☺️💖

[@PinkPanther45518]

I also really enjoyed the heck out of War on Terra, Delgo, and the underrated movie Epic.

[@obondra]

🦢

[@LexioLTG]

"It was horrible. It sounded like someone was trying to make an impression of Nicolas Cage and Elvis at the same time." Are you crazy that sounds amazing sign me the fuk in.

[@Bibabeee]

Same

[@eugescarab]

Yeah i actually I really like that, it made that asshome even more obnoxious

[@Bublio53]

I actually with Saber for that guy. I know you shouldn't judge by appearnaces... but I could not see that character with that voice... it looked so........ off.

[@caseygibson7266]

I didn't know I wanted a movie of Nicholas Cage playing Elvis, but holy cow do I want it now

[@michaeldykstra4265]

I agree, Strange Magic was a great but unpopular film. I rented the film and my sister and I loved it. Saber should be kinder to it.

[@RancidGravy]

"George is a weird guy" Pretty much.

[@insertmemorableusernameher6795]

Its like poetry, it rhymes

[@sweatysweak]

Saberspark, Talk about the movie Henchmen. It made about a few thousand dollars with millions at budget.

[@mackenziecarver6807]

Honestly, that’s what makes him cool.

[@biharimark5506]

Me: Mom, can we have Prince Charming? Mom: No, we have Prince Charming at home. Prince Charming at home: 5:46

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Shrek?

[@hraftonuser]

He looks like a knockoff of one of the leaf men from Epic.

[@EloHell1129]

@@hraftonuser Wait, which movie came first? Epic or This?

[@thesunisdark1]

@@EloHell1129 "Epic" came in 2013, "Strange Magic" came in 2015

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

Gastón + Prince Charming (from Shrek 2) + Hans = Ronald

[@capslock4604]

My roommates and I have seen this movie at *least* 20 times. I can quote the lines word-for-word, pitch and all, just from the silent clips you put up. I love this movie the way one loves an f'd-up plushie that somehow made it to store shelves. Assessment: accurate. (Also I can say first hand that there is TONS of AO3 content for this movie, mostly about Bog and Marianne.) Edit: Roland's "GO!!" face is an established meme in our house and was briefly the image for our roomie discord server

[@MorgenPeschke]

George makes a movie for boys: make sure you don't lose your temper George makes a movie for girls: watch out for roofies

[@actuallogic6411]

... It's scary how accurate both of those themes are.

[@Lov3lyDay]

Wow...

[@MyBubbleInSpace]

I mean, they're kinda good messages. It's very sad that we need to tell girls that we have to watch out for roofies in the first place, but living in the world we are It's actually a good message.

[@alecazam6755]

@@MyBubbleInSpace I mean I don't think we need to tell 12 year olds that.

[@ballerbeau69]

Teaching the real important lessons

[@Weirdanimalboy]

Personally I’d fix this movie’s weird handle of romance. Instead of Sunny being a simp and drugging Dawn to love him, Sunny and Dawn are in a sweet, cute relationship with one another. But because Dawn is a princess and Sunny is a lowly elf, they cannot go public with their affections. Instead of Roland giving Sunny the idea of the love potion, Roland uses Sunny and Dawn’s relationship as leverage to blackmail him into getting the love potion to use on whatever the main character’s name is. And another reviewer came up with this rewrite, but instead of Bog hating love because his love potion didn’t work, he hates it because he was potioned into a relationship he did not consent to. And therefore keeps the sugar plum fairy hostage as to not allow anyone else to suffer the same way.

[@ShinoriDelfrim]

That would’ve been a more interesting plot actually

[@skeltheshapeshifter2697]

I was only lowkey agreeing with you until the last part. THAT SHIT'S *GOOD.* Ugh I wish they had done that instead.

[@-Secret]

This is genius

[@notareallin620]

That last bit made bog's setting change...

[@blessiemasancay4818]

Nice

[@KH0LRA]

the blonde fairy looks like logan paul or something

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

How appropriate

[@anido-4703]

He be looking like prince charming from Shrek

[@perfect9561]

And the fact that he's also disgusting is sending me😂🙈

[@evanroldan9566]

Or TRUMP

[@ubiquitoustruth6296]

Im so fucking stupid i thought you meant the sister LMAP

[@blyre1792]

Oh my, this movie was quite popular in public TV in Poland. I remember watching it as a child and loving it. I got a weird nostalgia for this one. I loved cranky designs and their outfits. I’m surprised that it flopped so badly…

[@BugsyFoga]

Strange Magic : aka George Lucas's Star Wars "For Girls"

[@adamhenry6793]

🗿

[@abthedragon4921]

The very fact that that's what this was marketed as is just... wow.

[@cnchtg]

Awful lol

[@BugVlogs]

As if girls can’t enjoy Star Wars 🙄

[@brodiero-solar302]

yeah.

[@Me-dr9dv]

Remember kids, drugging somebody against their will in order to get them obsessed with you is a-okay, just as long as you're truly "in love" with them! 🤔 Edit:) I haven't seen much of this movie, and it seems that I didn't pay much attention to the message the plot could have been trying to send. I apologize for that. Also, thanks for all of the likes and replies! 😁

[@prettypoison5788]

*Yanderes have entered the chat*

[@baptismascure]

yo 🗣 nice pfp

[@GlidingZephyr]

"See now, drugs are bad. Mm'kay."

[@theshamanite]

That's a catch-22, my friend. If you really loved them, you wouldn't roofie them.

[@1r0zz]

Serious answer: We can see "love potion" tropes as an allegory of "imposing change" for a relationship, lying about yourself or similar harmful and unhealthy situation. So yeah. Most relationships kinda are "love potions". Most of those " love potions" are even supported by society as a whole.

[@kenziecullen4434]

My guy, did you just cite “Grandma Got Ran Over by a Reindeer” as an example of a jukebox musical that _works!?_

[@iluvsonicxshadow]

Works as a jukebox musical Fails as a movie in general lol

[@kenziecullen4434]

Magicstorm101 Yeah because the segue into that stupid fruitcake song flowed seamlessly 👌 😂

[@LovesickDemon]

And we begged her not to go "Don't go, we're begging you!"

[@tanner201x8]

Magicstorm101 Wait what? No it doesn’t lol it’s a classic

[@LadyoftheDreamless14]

THANK YOU! Im not alone.

[@codabunny22]

I actually loved this movie as a kid and only found it again a few years ago and I still love it even if there’s a lot that could be improved or fully changed I believe it was this movie that started my love for musicals aswell as seeing performances with my family in theatres

[@artemiswolf4508]

This movie upsets me SPECIALLY , because a movie about faeries based on a Shakespeare play with sword fighting women, a romance that mirrors Hades and Persephone AND ITS A MUSICAL!!! This should be MY JAM. This sounds tailor made for me specifically.

[@hraftonuser]

WTH are you smoking

[@LetMeEatIt]

@@hraftonuser green crack weed

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@hraftonuser I want whatever it is they're having.

[@graysonrogers-barnes6302]

It could have been so good. I almost want to like it. Or see the one Saber made for fixing it.

[@goblyntheking3399]

my feelings exactly. :(

[@iRinnda]

The hero falling in love with the villain is legit my shit. That was the subplot I was waiting for my entire life! And the fact that the villain actually didn't have that much characteristics that majority would consider "handsome/beautiful" was great. Heck, he only had baby blue eyes! Otherwise he was very lanky, rough at the edges with a long crooked nose... Needless to say, I really liked Bog King's character design. It works so well for the villain, but once we get to know him better and get past that... what's not to love?! The jukebox music I find problematic especially if a movie wants to aim to the international market, because those are songs everyone already knows in the original language which is English. It's so hard trying to translate and dub that into different languages without the song starting to sound odd and forced. The only time I've heard a famous song being used in a movie which was also translated and dubbed to country X's own language, was Shrek 2 when the fairy godmother sings _I Need a Hero._ And somehow it worked. No other jukebox songs from any Shrek movies were translated and dubbed, at least if I remember right. Surely most animated movies are produced in the USA and are mainly aimed for English speaking audiences, but if there is a possibility a movie could make it internationally, especially an animated family one, using jukebox music isn't the best idea. If the songs are not translated, many people will miss the meaning which connects the used song and a scene from the movie and if you try to translate it... Let's just say I'm not too keen on the idea of hearing Lady Gaga or Michael Jackson's songs translated to anything from English. It'd just feel weird.

[@rubyliciousOG]

The croatian version of i need a hero was amazing, just saying

[@staringdown1]

This right here is my kink that's what i really liked about the movie

[@Lilly-to9hs]

same

[@Monumentality]

This movie is Beauty and the beast in the world of Epic

[@stupiddog7314]

Epic was a fever dream

[@Cowgutz]

Epic is so goooood omggg

[@coffeerequired5074]

Jesus I forgot Epic existed- Kinda wanna watch it now actually-

[@mattheusfinco7050]

Epic ... How many ages passed since the last time i watched It ...

[@EpinomicRowan]

Yo, I was just about to comment how this movie was 'Epic' gone romantic and into a musical

[@TheOriginalRedBowl]

I loved this movie :[ personally, I think the designs, the art, the animation, the decisions for music and voices, ALL OF THIS. I loved it all......

[@NoshuHyena]

The Imp's design and animation are honestly fantastic. I'd watch a movie solely about that thing.

[@stormisuedonym4599]

Reminded me of Stitch, from Lilo and Stitch.

[@justanotherguyontheinterne7889]

Stormi Suedonym It really does look a lot like stitch.

[@roastingghosts1302]

God, this movie is such a guilty pleasure for me-I love the animation on the wings and the style of the characters is so interesting to me because unlike most fairy movies, they don’t just look like humans with wings. Marianne and Bog King’s relationship is also pretty good, I like the villain falling in love trope and I love the fact that both of them look weird to each other, (as opposed to those movies where even though the main characters are different species, they both have the same standards of beauty and thus one feels like they’re hideous.) Sunny and Dawn though...definitely made me a little uncomfortable and made Sunny hard to sympathize with-which made him ending up with Dawn feel really really undeserving.

[@megsharp1901]

Same! This movie is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

[@morganrakes4184]

Such a guilty pleasure of mine too! It’s so bad but I still kinda love it!

[@laurenpeabody5610]

Yes! This movie isn't a masterpiece but I enjoy it.

[@brendankendall41]

I'm glad this movie didn't end with the "ugly = evil" trope. It started that way, but subverted it later, and I appreciate that.

[@ActuallyYoda69]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who liked the movie. You know, I never thought about Sunny like that. I suppose you're right, it does seem undeserving.

[@cowboygomez5504]

This movie really reminds me of “Epic”. Anyone remember that movie? I never saw it I just remember it because of the McDonald’s toys.

[@hoolala1857]

Cowboy Gomez yes that’s exactly what I was thinking! The character designs and plot seem similar

[@jeryquil]

so THATS what i was trying to think of when i was watching the video...i felt something was wrong and different with the thing i had in mind lmao which is that movie epic..thank you for reminding me

[@thekagawalife2081]

Epic is a million times better.

[@Sofia-uc5hx]

My first thought

[@glenedictcucumberpatch211]

TheKagawaLife and it still is so completely awful

[@asumi_channn961]

strange magic will ALWAYS be apart of my childhood, I remember constantly watching it as a kid

[@brickmastere5535]

Honestly, the premise doesnt sound all too bad. It just needs some polishing.

[@Ellisepha]

Yeah, a story about two people from rivaling kingdoms, who swore off love forever, falling in love? I'm not much of a romance fan, but that doesn't sound like a bad plot to me

[@stormisuedonym4599]

"The premise doesn't sound all too bad, it just needs some polishing" describes pretty much everything George Lucas has done without adult supervision.

[@nekoqueen5524]

That's what I was thinking

[@parjai97]

@@stormisuedonym4599 let the man worldbuild, let his men write. That's how Star Wars grew. The prequel trilogy gave it new life in the lore, and with Lucas' ideas the clone wars blossomed. But it needed Filoni.

[@GAdmThrawn]

@@parjai97 We had the Clone Wars before Filoni though. And it was really good Clone Wars.

[@heartofnova8768]

Are we not going to talk about how Marianne's dad kept trying to get her back with Roland, knowing that he cheated on her?

[@marlenrodriguez9036]

I dont think anyone knows he did? Marianne mentions "you cheated on me, remember?" but with a whisper and like she doesnt want others to know. Her sister also mentions she has no clue what happened but it had to be bad.

[@MyBubbleInSpace]

@@marlenrodriguez9036 Yeah, I'm pretty sure she kept that to herself for whatever reason. But for a father to try to get his daughter to get back together with an ex that she clearly despises is still bad parenting. Especially since he apparently doesn't let Dawn date at all?

[@marlenrodriguez9036]

@@MyBubbleInSpace No i don't think it was about not lettign Dawn date it's just it's probably annoying that she never seems to just focus on one boy. Marianne kept it to herself cuz of her pride. Her dad is pretty rude though.

[@xxgirl101xx]

When I was a little girl I tried to watch Star Wars, and I fell to the ground, foaming at the mouth. When my 50 yr old dad tried, he was blinded and has never recovered. We should have known better.

[@virtualboygodot8251]

Legend has it that you need a balanced diet of kool-aid, pb and j sandwiches (no crust) and pizza bagels to endure the experience that is Star Wars

[@amberalvia1101]

I loved star wars as young girl and I still love it to this day and I enjoyed. But I don't really those movies pretty often.

[@amberalvia1101]

Foaming on the mouth? Did you have a seizure or something while watching that movie.

[@MarlonBitoy]

Amber Alvia She was joking. It was a joke.

[@xxgirl101xx]

Amber Alvia The video mentions how George Lucas described Star Wars being for twelve year old boys while Strange Magic would be for girls. I was making a joke about how ridiculous that is

[@karencarter18042]

Strange magic was about as inspired by A Midsummer's Night Dream as West Side Story was inspired by Romeo and Juliet. In Sunny's defense he got tricked by Roland . Roland needed the love potion more than Sunny did.. The issue with the imp is that in the play he was a main character, Puck and an important part of the story plus my favorite character. He caused chaos with the love potion and he never really lost the potion like the imp did in the movie. I think it was never really consider that when you change the humans in the play into fairies and bog creatures you had to change Puck who was a fairy in the play into something else or he need to be an outsider to either kingdom. So when they made Puck an imp who only chittered and made others more responsible for the love potion. They took a bit of the reasoning behind the chaos of the love potion away and you miss Puck laughing at making people fall in love with those they dislike or making the "Roland" character falling in love with a donkey .

[@TheOneGuy1111]

Bog Creatures: Destroy the plants needed for love potions and capture the fairy that makes them. Me: And this make them the bad guys???

[@julianmartinez4719]

Taking in count how outright EVIL is a love potion, it makes too much sense

[@codysimpson1525]

yeah they destroy the rape potion plants, but theyre evil cause theyre ugly i guess lmao

[@clayxros576]

@@codysimpson1525 The story needed a lot of legwork to.....work, but there is a ton of potential for a really great, simple, but morally grey story here. A shame George sucks at actually going from idea to story.

[@gayandtired5370]

honestly i think this makes them the good guys like love potions are so fucked up when you think about it

[@j.d.t.5761]

"Star Wars was made for 12-year-old boys." I so wish Carrie Fisher was still alive to see her reaction.

[@Esgles]

That comment was made by him in 2015. So, I am sure Fisher gave her reaction to that in 2015.

[@j.d.t.5761]

Also, CellSpex's review of this was amazing!

[@kaleoarnold3709]

I mean it was, they were the intended audience.

[@Dollfacedaeva]

Kaleo Arnold maybe that was the ORIGINAL intended audience back when it came out in the 70’s but obviously was hit with ages and genders and became a worldwide phenomenon. And for Lucas to still be pushing the narrative that it is intended for 12 year old boys in this day and age is not only ignorant but strange given the fact that he knows how successful it became with all types of people.

[@maleficking6556]

@@Dollfacedaeva Lucas gave that comment about when he was making A New Hope....

[@xilaxena3040]

I remember this movie called The Monster in Paris that I absolutely loved as a kid! It would be cool if you reviewed it Edit: Wow So many more people like this movie than I thought :0

[@archienonymous2843]

i thought that movie was just a dream- 👁

[@satellitestargazer2770]

YES. That was actually a good movie. And the music was cool too.

[@feelingturquoise1718]

Yes! their songs were absolutely amazing. I also loved the movie Jack the cuckoo clock heart

[@diswouter428]

I agree, the track la seine and I in that movie was beautiful, and the story was amazing.

[@FirstnameLastname-he1ov]

omfg I ADORED A Monster in Paris as a kid!! I actually rewatched it a few weeks ago, and it's still pretty great! I'd love to see Saber talk about it!

[@almondtofuchan3157]

Dude, this movie was my CHILDHOOD! I watched the hell out of this! Sure, it may not hold up well at all, but the nostalgia is still there!

[@keeprkyd]

Just remember that while Strange Magic has a 17% on Rotten Tomatoes Leo The Lion has a 48%....

[@sonicplys64]

Better movie

[@hraftonuser]

I mean, it’s not that big of a deal. You shouldn’t worry about Rotten Tomatoes scores because some critics are biased when it comes to the tastes they enjoy. You should only have to worry about the audience scores and the Google ratings because those ratings are mainly what the audience thinks about the movie. Who cares if only 17% of critics found some freshness within the movie? Critics have different opinions about certain topics, especially fantasies. The audience score of 52% just means that 52% of the audience has rated the movie with 3.5 stars or more out of 5 stars, which isn’t very harsh at all. The Google rating, “85% liked this movie”, speaks for itself.

[@hraftonuser]

jbiehlable True, but that movie didn’t have a very wide release like Strange Magic. Elliot the Littlest Reindeer was first released in Turkey, not as high-populated as the US.

[@stormisuedonym4599]

@jbiehlable It's less than a third the population of the United States, at 80 million. For comparison, California alone has a population of 38.5 million. Turkey's GDP is 771.4 billion. America's GDP is 20.54 _trillion._

[@hraftonuser]

jbiehlable Yes, I agree. Also, I meant Turkey is not as populous as the US, not that Turkey wasn’t very populous.

[@gremlinjax]

bog king: im going to rip your wings off me: *tHATS SOMEONES FETISH*

[@q.mercury.q8659]

thats why she called it flirting

[@agenitty]

*I’ve seen enough hentai to know where this is going.*

[@happysavage6660]

*thinks of Seven Deadly Sins anime storyline, of fairies, gulps and is a bit shocked and perplexed*

[@dantethespoon1087]

@@q.mercury.q8659 maybe it's cause he called her a "pretty little princess fairy"

[@HopePapernacky]

Wait, is it the movie with amazing animation where a fairy sees her bf cheating and turns goth and later on sings what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger? Then a villain tries to make someone love them and they sing sugar pie honeybun you know that I love you and deck them? I WATCHED THAT WHEN I WAS A KID AND LOVED IT! I’VE BEEN SEARCHING SO LONG THANK YOU SO MUCH OH MY GOD IT IS!!!!!!!

[@Fenris30]

Kinda makes me wonder if someone even asked the Target Demo if they liked the Movie?

[@GoroAkechi_Real]

I also had vague memories of this from when I was a kid and remember I thought the wings of the fairies were beautiful..

[@lathamluvspasta]

I know this movie was a masterpiece in my opinion!

[@kumisona9643]

I remembered watching this, and liked it so much

[@melopsia]

same i remember this movie from when i was a kid and i remember when it was on netflix

[@ilaac.]

i think Strange Magic is absolutely worth watching. It has some weird and experimental animation sequences in it that are interesting to watch, no matter if they turned out 'bad' or good. It's unique. And the blonde sister falling in love with the Bog King was such an unexpected twist that led to really weird and funny interactions. Also, the Bog King was SO fun to watch and see him fly and move and fight, ugh. His design is REALLY COOL to me, and he reminds me a bit of Cell from DragonBallZ with his human-insect body. I definitely recommend seeing the movie, for what it tried to do and for what it succeeded in. The movie does get kinda horny at the end though, which was awkward to watch with friends lmao.

[@vicproductions7420]

Saber: Roland sucks and sounds like Elvis and Nicholas Cage. My brain: "You ain't nothing but a hound dog."

[@kieranstark7213]

Roland is one of the MANY reasons why Strange Magic is one of the worst creations in animation and the history of George Lucas (even by his standards).

[@666Vampirefromhell]

My brain: Put the hound dog back in his blue suede shoes.

[@risingdawnuvu9604]

"Movie made for girls" Is a funny quote, since watching the movie feels like it had so much low effort in the writing I like tropes, but this fell into a bad pit of them where nothing was made to twist those tropes around, and all of the good and interesting designs was reserved to the dark forest, not the fairies (something that is stereotyped as "girly"). Which feels like a drawn out grind to the teeth cause it made caring for any of the plot dull. (Also it was a missed opportunity to make Sunny be the real villain of the story, that would have made his character far more interesting)

[@youre_doomed_enjoy_the_sin3664]

Ooh! I really like that idea! Yeah, I really wanted to like Sunny but the whole obsession with Dawn always made me really uncomfortable... Now I'm really wishing Sunny was the villain. Probably wouldn't have saved the movie but I agree, it definitely would have been a step up from what we got.

[@cbennett7480]

well, to be fair, (IIR) it is based upon the Shakespear play of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" and those romantic tropes abound, but I do like the twist where that dark haired fairy ends up with Oberon (but maybe I'm bias because I've always had a thing for Alan Cumming *the voice of Oberon in this* from seeing him in spy kids when I was a child. Lol!)

[@hraftonuser]

*bleh*

[@nightmarehound]

And even if Sunny hadn't been the villain, it really could have been a great exploration about this sort of mentality where you feel you're friendzoned and you end up in an echochamber that makes you bitter and in the end doesnt make anything better and lets you be manipulated, which was *bit* what they tried, I guess. Though I actually kinda liked Sunny, the position of "feeling entitled to get someone's love but realizing what he's trying to do is bad before he does it" is done so fast that there isn't any actual development there, and its just used for comic relief chase stuff for the rest of the movie, of which he's then rewarded for, which neither teaches any life lesson for younger viewers or is interesting to watch. Strange Magic frustrates me bevause the characters HAVE issues that I can see a lot of real people dealing with, like Sunny's frustration of friendzone, being cheated on, other people seeing relationships as transactions and not genuine, being bitter about love and wanting to avoid the stereotype of being seen as a naive girl who believes in sappy love, but then most of the runtime is being used for songs and stuff.

[@raymonddfigueroa8382]

Really seened like he was stretching out the whole gIrlS CaN FiGHt tOo, thing and then realised I wait its not girly enough throw in some love bullshit in there.

[@Gissigne]

Me at the start: * notices teen titans go movie reference * ah shit, here we go again

[@demisagoat]

I was thinking “wtf did I just hear lol” and saw it was TTG

[@cookestee]

i cant escape it

[@kuniosaiki]

*picture my booty up in 3D*

[@Rattlecat]

I believe this actually came out prior to Teen Titans's Movie, but I see your point!

[@jackcutter2]

It's a good movie. It's also aimed at kids funnily enough. But you obese neckbeard virgins always seem to forget that just because you're salty.

[@SqdFeelxngs_]

One of my most vivid memories is watching this movie at my aunts house on a rainy day while we were celebrating either new year or some relatives birthday and having to sit on my creepy uncles lap. I at the time, and still now enjoy the romance between the main 2 characters it felt refreshing for my 9 year old mind

[@shinomichan5782]

Everyone else: "Ohmygod this movie is so bad!", Me and my family: *laughing our asses off and jamming with the characters* I gotta be honest, I actually liked this one. I mean sure predictable as hell, music was basic too, but guess I'm a sucker for movies like this one?

[@Bublio53]

I loved it visually. The story was very predictable and made me roll my eyes and cringe a bit. But character design? Gimme more lol

[@VillainBrine]

I enjoyed it as well that I bought the DVD. I loved the song when the Bog King interrupted the Fairy's festival to give the news that he was humiliated.

[@slashermaster28]

Same here. This movie's a big guilty pleasure for me. It's not good. It has many great ideas and basically wastes all of them with a clumsy script, but it is at least entertaining. The musical numbers are creative and energized and the humor gets a good laugh out of me.

[@justjazznow5817]

Me too

[@jakecampbell2211]

Exactly me

[@ponyjar]

Idk if anyone has already said this but Saber's outro theme sounds like it would be a stage from Sonic or somethi-

[@jamesduncan6729]

How could you have been cut off mid-sentence if you were typing? Did someone physically remove you from the keyboard/phone and submit your comment unfinished?

[@bryxlynn]

The Dunsel 😂😂😂

[@Eepop_stuffs]

yU dIdNt HaVe To CuT mE oFf

[@dumbassdiana9367]

Nah it’s not good enough

[@P4Z44K]

Yeah it do-

[@TheSonOfTheDragon]

I would have had Bog King's backstory be someone tried to use a love potion on him but it didn't work for some reason which would be better justification for his hatred for love and the potion.

[@jlwiseman98]

Probably would've worked better too since the fact he also tried to force someone to love him through magic makes him just as bad as roland and sunny were in this movie for wanting to gleefully do the same thing. Bog isn't as bad as either of those characters but considering how the movie makes the love potions as being evil, it probably would've worked a ton better if bog's actual reason for hating it was due to being disgusted about someone trying to magically force him to love rather then because he didn't succeed in trying to make someone love him.

[@h0td0gwat3r5]

@@jlwiseman98 he was a teen when he did that so hes easier to sympathize with sunny on the other hand looks like 34 year old man so sunny is irredeemable

[@h0td0gwat3r5]

@@jlwiseman98 but i do fully agree

[@DarthBiomech]

Or for instance it _did_ work, but then wore off for some magical reason.

[@samuelsolomon7330]

Thats a really good idea. It would make for a better plot and further develop his character.

[@complex2live]

I remember watching this fever dream in theaters. Thanks Saber, I completely forgot about this movie.

[@zxi8229]

I actually really loved this movie, It's unique and incredible in many ways.

[@barbararab6390]

Incredibly bad, thats why i like it

[@lathamluvspasta]

I loved this movie too!

[@HiraKuran]

Same 💖

[@hellocoil1205]

I LOVED that movie

[@bluemoondust8421]

Same

[@kaskus7147]

This movie felt like an attempt at re-imagining Fern Gully through the lens of Shrek when I watched it.

[@NoArtisticLimitation]

That’d explain what I liked about it. The fern Gully and Shrek-esc parts XD

[@36inc]

honestly I missed this one despite being sucvh a lucas shill( I say unironically while also knowing every nook and cranny of his classics) and if thats the vibes its going for then I am in

[@captainbonkerang]

Does anyone else have a feeling they have seen this movie but don’t ever remember actually watching it?...

[@estelaangeles2346]

I remember they had toys in spme resturant

[@thereddead3618]

I might've watched it when I was a younger...it looks so familiar

[@thereddead3618]

Yeah I definitely watched this movie

[@expendableindigo9639]

I always confused it with Epic.

[@machinegirI]

Kyra E. Yeah after watching this it reminded my of tinkerbell so ima go watch it 😼

[@jacobfoss7783]

This film is criminally underrated

[@dg.r7610]

So basically the imp is that one person in every fandom that makes crackship.

[@bananatoffeepie]

Yes

[@GalacticRainestorm]

Me lmao

[@Normaschthewanderer]

The real hero of the movie.

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

From now on, we will refer to every person in a fandom who makes a fuckton of random ships an Imp.

[@coldcovoi5408]

When you said his voice was a mix of Nicholas Cage and Elvis, I didn’t believe you. …Until I heard his voice.

[@wallybrown1341]

Star Wars "For Girls" WHAT THE FRICK GEORGE?!

[@masonshipton2344]

Mudkip is that you?!

[@tomforge614]

Yeah, I think that was what really hurt "Strange Magic" from a marketing perspective.

[@ScripulousFingore6133]

What's wrong with marketing the movie towards girls? What's with everyone in the comments section?!

[@Fruidish]

As a girl I can confirm,I prefer Star Wars.

[@tomforge614]

@@ScripulousFingore6133 Marketing towards girls is fine. Calling something "Star Wars FOR GIRLS" is the problem.

[@Razzrazz90]

George really seems to have a fascination with weird, uncanny valley mouths. The shot with the fairy princess's uvula being completely visible while she was singing instantly reminded me of the musical bug guy from the Jabba's Palace scene in the Star Wars Ep 6 special edition

[@SynGirl32]

Funnily enough, George's motivation and process for making this movie was somewhat similar to the on used by Miyazaki when he made Spirited Away. Miyazaki said he wanted a movie that would appeal to pre-adolescent girls, more specifically, the apathetic daughter of one of his friends. Miyazaki stated he read many shoujo (teenage girls) manga, and spent a lot of time with said girl to build the character of Chihiro. Of course, we all know Spirited Away turned out to be a lot better movie than this one.

[@RadishTheFool]

Miyazaki's films feel like he makes them with specific ideas in mind of what he wants to show and tell to young girls. This film feels like George Lucas wanted to make a movie about bog monsters, but also threw in half a movie about generic fairies and elves because that's what girls like right?

[@Пинагод]

@@RadishTheFool To be fair, it had some good parts in it, which was the romance and self-growth portion. It's the movie that introduced me to genuine romance and showed how even people perceived as ugly can be fallen in love with, so long as the personality truly strives, and admittedly I really liked the plot of the movie as a kid, and maybe still do until now. It also had a really cool protagonist, she wasn't forced to have romantic relationships but she did it out of her own accord, while getting to be an authentic independent character, and not just a female character. Before anyone also calls out that the hopeless romanticism was unrealistic, living as a girl and especially in a country that romance is prevalent, it's _very_ fucking realistic.

[@tahlialysse]

I think the difference is GL wanted to make a movie for young girls...and then figured that he already knew exactly how to do that, while Miyazaki wanted to make a movie for young girls so he spent time figuring out how to do that and engaging with people in the demographic he was interested in.

[@Yurikon3]

@@tahlialysse How I perceive it as a male: Spirited Away feels like it was made by someone who knows they don't understand everything about their demographic but makes an attempt to try. It might not always hit, but the genuine attempt to understand makes it feel more human rather than someone just thinking they have it all figured out. Latter one feels bit too robotic since it seems to assume another person can be totally figured out while former leaves some parts to be up to viewer. It is not bad to be somewhat oblivious about some demographic and combining it to genuine attempt to understand might be more endearing than trying to be someone who seems to have this demographic figured out.

[@breadshapiro1315]

It has to do with the fact that Miyazaki actually read things made for girls like Shoujo. I think the problem with George is that he didn't research deeper.

[@buzzinbea]

Sonny: Tries to use potion to force a girl to love him Film: Good guy! Roland: Tries to use potion to force girls to love him Film: Bad guy! (like seriously they're literally the same XD)

[@Guilmonhero]

With the only minor difference is that Sonny actually loves the girl while Film just wants the girl so he could take over the kingdom.

[@gloomiette]

@Savannah Jordan I thought of him like a neckbeard,, like a Reddit neckbeard

[@logans.7932]

Laughed a little too hard when I realized that "Bog" was straight up his name and not just a way to refer to him.

[@rotciv557]

He's a literal Bog Monster, the brits must have been having a fucking laugh with this movie.

[@Lov3lyDay]

rotciv557 Can someone explain for my non-British friend please?

[@Calirinz]

Lov3ly Day Bog is slang for toilet

[@Пинагод]

@@Calirinz lmfao

[@Lov3lyDay]

Calicat oh thank you

[@GingerGamerDoofus]

I think I saw a trailer for this a while ago and then a month later, in a Walmart, saw the DVD box. I vividly remember it having three shots from the movie one on top of the other with the middle having either a tagline or a good review and the bottom having the title.

[@maybunny25]

I saw this on Disney channel a while back. I did like when MaryAnne sang "I'll never fall in love again" I felt that worked, I have a soft spot for that song. I love how she sang so sadly and then it turned into a power balad, and she kind transformed from girly day dreamer to warrior.

[@ForrestFox626]

Would of preferred that being the focus and not just one song.

[@justsomecryptidwithinterne9873]

He should review the movies "A monster in Paris" and "Jack and the coco clock heart" Both done by the same studio and I belive they had original music in the movie some bizarre animation and very intresting storylines. If you haven't heard of these movies you should check them out

[@koda_dawgg]

oh man, i remember coo coo clock heart. my grandma got it and suggested that we watch it. sadly, i didn't like the animation when i was younger and didn't really pay attention to it. i should check it out again because it does look really interesting.

[@bluelfsuma]

Monster in Paris was rad.

[@gingerp4941]

aw hell yeah cuckoo clock heart was my favourite when i was younger.

[@archaicfalcon4898]

I watched the movie on Netflix. The ending was... something, to say the least

[@ballisticbullet428]

i loved Jack and the coco clock heart

[@hannahbanana5931]

Honestly the idea of this movie isn’t even that bad it’s just executed so very very poorly

[@coreyrider9912]

I'm sorry but nah the story sux regardless imo

[@Пинагод]

Lmao yeah, I like the concept of the Love potion thing but some of the characters just seem a little too stereotypical or exaggerated, like Marianne is now edgy and bad-girl who wouldn't fall in love but ends up falling in love for the antagonist. That idea isn't really bad, but how they portrayed it felt pretty weird and uncomfortable tbh

[@rhodopisdenile8977]

They need to scrap the whole love potion thing because it’s very problematic and makes a lot of people uncomfortable

[@ThistleBristleBerry]

This was one of those random movies you would watch as a kid and just vividly remember for the rest of your life-

[@logan_rox210]

I thought this movie was called “Epic”

[@modalglue]

Nah that's a different thing

[@foreverdead1248]

Epic was competent. this movie? Not in the least.

[@blackberry8615]

Don’t ever disrespect Epic ever again

[@kawaiiqueee]

That movie was actually good! It's ironic watching it now because Mother Nature dies-

[@teejaynumber13]

Epic sucked. I could spend an hour talking about how dumb the plot was. Never saw Strange Magic though.

[@Proserpira]

The wings are quite impressive design-wise. Having such huge butterfly wings that touch the ground is very cool. They're more difficult to animate and are more interesting as well.

[@MadameTamma]

When the Bog King’s tragic backstory was revealed I was like, wait you want us to feel pity for this guy because they failed to bend another person’s will to their own?

[@alicevicariously2396]

Asking the real questions I see

[@chaoticneutral7976]

Seriously why does this movie have three characters (Bog, Roland and Sunny) who all tried to roofie women into liking them? And only one of them is the real antagonist!

[@skullsquad900]

Idk about feeling sympathy, but gave him motivation other than just being evil

[@Lugbzurg]

This is basically why I feel no feels at the end of Angel Beats.

[@lifesucks1652]

@@chaoticneutral7976 sunny and bog realized their mistakes in the end, roland didn't give a fuck, he just wanted the crown