Safe Haven: Jim Helps Ariel Hanson to Protect the Colonists (Starcraft 2)

After Raynor's Raiders purified and evacuated the Meinhoff colony, a number of colonists were still infected by the zerg hyper-evolutionary virus. As the colonists found the world of Haven, the virus spread once more. As the planet was near protoss space, Executor Selendis detected the infection and led a fleet to purify Haven. Jim Raynor contacted the protoss, but Selendis was sure that Haven had to be purified, and offered the commander the chance to purity the planet himself. Ariel Hanson was able to convince Raynor that she could develop a cure to the virus, making him oppose the protoss and protect the colonists.
The protoss deployed a Purifier mothership to destroy the colony bases. The Raiders brought in Vikings but could not directly engage the purifier; the terrans did not have the weapons to penetrate the shield. However, the shield was generated by three nexus that were vulnerable to attack. Furthermore, the colonists evacuating from the outlying bases were attacked by protoss terror fleets. The purifier was destroyed after the shield was disabled. The protoss were forced to withdraw. Selendis commended Raynor on his victory, and hoped the rebel's faith in the colonists would be borne out.
After the battle, Dr. Hanson left the Raiders to settle with the other colonists. Before leaving, Dr. Hanson asked Raynor if he would want to stay with her on Haven and "start over." Raynor declined, unwilling to give up the revolution. Hanson sealed her goodbye by kissing Raynor on the cheek and saying, "You're a good man, Jim Raynor."
The colonists declared independence from the Terran Dominion, and gave the Raiders the colonial flag of Agria as a thank you for helping them.
Alternative version (Help Protoss): Heaven's Fall: • Haven's Fall: Jim Kill...
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The 15th mission (number may differ) of "Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty" - "Safe Haven" on planet Haven. Helping Ariel Hanson.

[@phantomwraith1984]

I love how there's no bad blood for fighting the protoss. They respect you as a commander

[@DeadManSinging1]

Yeah, when she says "meet you on the battlefield", she's not saying "i want to fucking kill you", its a compliment in their culture, she considers it an honor to battle such a fierce warrior

[@DaDunge]

@ApolloX44 Pollo They fight how many civil wars over the course of their campaigns?

[@DaDunge]

@ApolloX44 Pollo It's still a civil war.

[@DaDunge]

@ApolloX44 Pollo Two in SC1. That the rebels were right in both cases doesn't change that they were civil wars. And one in their backstory.

[@crimsonlanceman7882]

@ApolloX44 Pollo UED wasn't civil war. It was an invasion.

[@CrabTastingMan]

2:37 "Jim, the Protoss are already closing in on the colony. My people don't stand a chance." Selendis is sending in **Scouts.**

[@kuronanestimare]

@Stronger er Scrubs don't even have a Command Center or Barracks, SMH

[@thebravegallade731]

Scouts are... Actually quite dangerous. Mutas are only dangerous cause splash and pure deathballing factor. Wraiths are shit only saved by cloak (and even then...) Scouts kill any high target air and are decent at harassing ground.

[@TheArtasGra]

@@thebravegallade731 *doubts in mass marine*

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

@@thebravegallade731 can't even cloak even if they are intercepted by Wraith, also they are way too expansive

[@ThatGuyUpThere]

Given that the colonist only had maines, yes the were screwed

[@combinecommando001]

"I ain't that good" I freaking love that line.

[@roguedrones]

Alternative time-line where Jim is infected by a single kiss.

[@LurkerPatrol5]

I'm Jim Raynor, infested marshal o these parts

[@surfyplayer8231]

I’m pretty sure he kissed Kerrigan

[@Ambu570]

Holy shit

[@PlagueRunner]

The key is lemon juice

[@user-vy9mk7um1b]

Sounds like idea for alternative plot (not concretely Ariel's kiss, but infested Jim)...

[@ricardovalderreytato9191]

Selendis ain't even mad , what a fucking legend

[@SimplyDuker]

Given how Jimmy was on very good terms with the Protoss, I'm pretty sure she cut him some slack after that battle.

[@girlgarde]

@@SimplyDuker Selendis obviously didn't want to genocide innocent Terran colonists for something that wasn't their fault but she had a duty to perform for the greater good in her mind and afterwards, hoped that they could find a cure for the Zerg infesting virus or at least keep the infected quarantined.

[@kennovafastforward8460]

Now as much as I love this ending... I was pretty damn desperate for protos research and I didn't want to deal with a mothership.

[@martmandred9182]

Yep. I like this route too rather than she turned into a monster. It was dark.

[@emillarsson1299]

bruh the mothership literally can't touch your vikings due to range xd

[@kennovafastforward8460]

@@emillarsson1299 as I said, I was desperate for protoss research

[@Lorgar64]

"The only cure for zerg infestation is purification by fire." And unsurprisingly, the sole race without a personal interest in curing zerg infestation never bothered to consider a less lethal solution.

[@George-Hawthorne]

If they weren't alien the Imperium would approve.

[@Lorgar64]

@@George-Hawthorne Believe it or not, the Imperium would prefer curing people to exterminatus.

[@George-Hawthorne]

@@Lorgar64 I doubt they would have the same sentiments for Kerrigan or Char for that matter.

[@Lorgar64]

@@George-Hawthorne @Aldon Blackreyne Nah, they'd crack Char. Radiation, little atmosphere, rivers of lava, and alien infestation? They can pass on a world like that. And it would be easier cracking it than deploying a crusade to deal with all the aliens in that environment. Kerrigan also wouldn't have been abandoned in the first place, because she wouldn't be in the same position. Either she'd have been indoctrinated to be loyal to the Imperium (so being too valuable and loyal to simply abandon), or she'd have been purged beforehand. Or fed to Big E. Haven on the other hand, is a verdant world perfect for colonisation and exploitation. The Imperium does not give up these worlds lightly, and in the case of a persistant threat like the zerg, they would want to try and figure out a way of denying them more assets. Also maybe protecting the divinity of mankind from the foul trepidations of the xeno, if they were feeling kind at that moment.

[@George-Hawthorne]

​@@Lorgar64Krieg's environment is similar and Char is abundant in resources. Plus the UED has proven that an invasion can be done. Kerrigan as a Human would be spared of course. Kerrigan as the queen of blades would not be so fortunate. She never did get fully Humanized after WOL. As for Haven The Imperium would launch a great crusade against the Protoss for threatening a terran world.

[@miguellemir242]

You know, I wonder if the reason of why Jim kept Ariel away is because she actually reminded him too much of Sarah: A young idealistic woman who fought hard to protect the small guy trapped between the indifference of a despotic goverment and the onslaught of an alien horde. They even meet almost the exact same end if you go with Selendis: Abandoned by her potential savior and turned into a Zerg monster. This why , in my continuity, Jim always keeps Ariel and the people of Haven safe: Is like, in some very small way, he could save Sarah and the people of Tarsonis, from both the Zerg and the Protoss.

[@KiR2RuN4FuN]

I'd say that for me it was helping fellow Terrans (most of them were civilians by the way) and me not being a Protoss fan in general. Ariel is just a sweet addition to that. Afterall, she's Agria representative.

[@markoljkrasus2888]

Except in no way are the two alike.. Kerrigan didn't side with Mengsk during the events of SC1 because she was a young idealist. She sided with him because of guilt and desire for vengeance. Confederacy was using Ghosts to try to control the Zerg through drugs and telepathy, Kerrigan was one of the few (if not the only one) that was able to pull it off. When the Sons of Korhal abducted her, she was a strong enough psychic to sense Mengsk's animosity towards her from the start, even though she suffered from memory loss; this was despite his kind words and assurance that she was a guest on his ship. Mengsk knew that she was a member of the squad of Ghosts sent to kill his family (and she personally decapitated his father), so he had plenty of reasons to hate her, but he also wanted to use her, particularly for her Ghost abilities that made her an invaluable asset to any mission. Even if you make the argument that the Confederacy was "despotic", which you certainly could, Sons of Korhal could barely be described as "small guy trapped between them and the zerg onslaught", since Mengsk wanted to use the zerg to destroy the Confederacy, not defend against them - so he's in no way the "small guy" in your analogy. He's a scheming megalomaniac that sent her on a suicide mission once she'd served her purpose, because of his deep grudges towards her. He wasn't going to be the "potential savior" there, he left her on purpose. And even if you mean Raynor, he DID try to rescue her, but his forces got overrun by the zerg, it was too late. Also, Kerrigan gets turned into a zerg monster, Ariel pretty much does it to herself trying to rush a cure. Ariel was pretty much just a plot device for the campaign, Blizzard doing a will-they-won't-they situation for that story arc that wraps up on Haven. Jim has a MUCH deeper connection with Sarah that was fraught romantic moments as well as backstabbing - they were comrades-in-arms, then lovers, then they low-key broke it off before Tarsonis and New Gettysburg happened, then Kerrigan turned into the Queen of Blades and blatantly manipulated Raynor into doing her bidding which secured her position as the leader of all the Broods after the Overmind/s got killed. He's suffered through much because of her, but he also blames himself for a lot of shit that happened to her. Sorry for the wall of text, had to get this off my chest and introduce a bit of nuance into your theory, been re-watching these mission cutscenes lately for some random reason lol :)

[@markoljkrasus2888]

@@bumblebeezie7461 Thanks for the bump there :D Overall you could say Kerrigan is a vengeful character, but to say "from the beginning" is a bit of a stretch. At the start of SC1, she was more or less an obedient soldier; after Tarsonis and her first transformation, she got power-hungry more than anything else. At the start of Heart of the Swarm, she got pushed into her renewed Queen of Blades form out of feeling of powerlessness more than anything else; look at it from her perspective - Jim was her only window back into the world of Terrans, and Mengsk had announced that he was captured and executed; this meant she was without friends, and her only hope for a "normal" life was supposedly now dead. This is when revenge becomes one of the primary drivers for Kerrigan - and one that keeps driving her even against Amon - but it's not the only big one; I'd argue her strive for survival is just as important a factor, since it's the one that's more ever-present than just simple revenge :) Then again, I could just be giving the SC writers too much rope here, if their writing staff is as skilled as World of Warcrafts, the entire SC franchise is going to hell in a handbasket lol

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

I prefer the one when he repeats his mistakes, until he can finally save Sarah, idk more romantic

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

@@markoljkrasus2888 Did you read these on the comics? I listened that there were some but never read them, should I? Are they good? Cause your comment sure is amazing buddy, thanks a lot

[@uniorbrown]

I love how Selendis is all sassy in the beginning, but when they lose the battle, she is all like nyeh meanie im going home.

[@Immagonko]

LemonAgeKK neyah meanie Lol xD you made my day

[@hamonanganr.sitompul9304]

Selendis hear about James Raynor heroics from her Superiors, Executor Tassadar and Hierarch Artanis. She never encountered Raynor before

[@TheVocalTune]

She was Definetly salty but she was warning Raynor he better not be wrong and accidently ended up protecting infested civilians

[@DaDunge]

@@hamonanganr.sitompul9304 If she fought for Tassadar she should know better than to purify human worlds. He didn't like it.

[@shiningarmour6805]

@@hamonanganr.sitompul9304 I forget, I thought she was the character the players controlled in Brood War.

[@Michiro13]

8:51 THE QUEEN OF BLADES DEMANDS EXPLANATION!

[@Clone6385]

After the Epilogue of the game after she comes back for him on Mar Sara. “So Jim who is that Doc Hanson to you?”

[@SimplyDuker]

@@Clone6385 I can already imagine the guy sweating balls trying to find a good answer to that question.

[@Bytheemperor]

2 days after, Kerrigan herself ripped ariels appart in a most regrettable accident :3

[@WildHorseProductions]

9:02 Jim Raynor "Report to the ship as soon as possible we'll bang okay?"

[@aaronthestuffguy3485]

....

[@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s]

Who the fuck do you think Raynor is? Shepard?!

[@ahha6304]

5 minutes later EDI threw Liara out of the airlock, well I mean Kerrigan threw Hanson out of the airlock

[@PrideBornAmadi]

The infested colonists take such a back seat in this mission. They’re literally just quarantined behind a fence at your base.

[@virgiljianu7166]

Well what do you expect them to do? Charge at the Protoss with molotovs or something?

[@keuwlcat1319]

yes for the COMMANDER >:D@@virgiljianu7166

[@SimplyDuker]

8:51 One could only dare to imagine Kerrigan's anger and rage if she saw this.

[@harrisonchong7237]

8:00 This goodbye for Ariel and she was right about Raynor.

[@GabboSM]

I've just completed the alternate way of this mission, and i don't regret my decision, you do save some colonist when fighting the Zerg, and even tho the Protoss always respect you, i didn't really wanna fight them, if trying to stop them would mean to fight them, let me handle the problem by myself, however, it is sad what happened to Hanson, but we can't do ourselves responsable for his actions

[@huntkillt]

protoss upgrades always took priority in my campaign so I never saw that mission

[@limeangelo6019]

Lol

[@tigran010]

Psi-disruptor is total badger

[@renesierra1770]

Same….

[@myself2noone]

@@tigran010 Hive mind emitter is better.

[@MrCouchmen]

I saved Ariel and with Zerathul I gained the rest of the Protoss research I needed.

[@thinhvo3893]

While I do love myself some gritty Starcraft original story, I do preferred this ending for multiple reason. One mainly is that you don't know if Hanson succeed in her cure or not it is more of a bitter sweet ending. Second to me, Jim Raynor was never that type of person who sacrificed the few for the many. If there is a way to save all, he will find it.

[@xignum]

realistically though,if the protoss can't find a cure what are the chances of terrans finding it?

[@DaDunge]

@@xignum The protoss don't care about human lives. Burning human worlds to get rid of zerg is the first thing they try not something they do when all else has failed.

[@anghainguyen9951]

@@xignum because those guy like burning every thing? Even some Protoss are sick of what they do.

[@mechadoggy]

@@xignum The Protoss have a theme of being set in their ways whereas Homo sapiens has a theme of being more creatively innovative. From my experience in the lab, scientific research often requires that kind of creative innovation.

[@jackstone9569]

9:07 me after every compliment

[@lonefish8128]

I think she is already infested, tosh tells you "have you ever wondered why the zerg is always following her?" And if you choose to help the protoss Dr.Ariel becomes infested and tells you "do you enjoy killing my children?" I think she means zerg are her children and then tosh tells you she was a honey-trap in the first place which means she might be planning to send her people to the core worlds and infest them all.

[@crown9018]

i hate anime She didnt turned into one yet, she was infested but she was fighting it, she worked on a cure for herself and her colonist, but the virus basically take her over when Raynor side with the Protoss

[@timotheebrasseur2539]

@i hate anime Or angry because you are killing infested terrans she tried to hide from you. Notice how you see little to no infested if you fight the protoss, but there is a zerg army if you purify the colony ? Maybe that's because they are hiding among the populace, and reveal themselves only when you activly try to find them and burn them, even if it means taking innocent lives.

[@onijaradu]

What if kerrigan created her in order to try to seduce jim only to kill him if he decided to stay with her. And that reply from her might have been by kerrigan as well

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

She never found a cure and all her people got infected and infested other worlds.

[@NeoCreo1]

@@dennisrodriguez3689 Nope, it’s explicitly stated in the Star Craft 2 “movie” that came with the collectors edition that she’s able to create a cure for the colonists

[@Orgrimmar21]

9:18 there is a red hologram of a female night elf dancing.

[@DragonsFlame3476]

I would love if there was no good option. Help the Protoss she becomes infected. Help Ariel and maybe containment fails. When she opens the door an infected Terran is standing there and explodes. Killing her and throwing Raynor back or maybe she pushes him back Inside. Raynor is kind of a tragic figure and losing another woman either way feels appropriate.

[@PuppetierMaster]

or she walks away saying Jim is a good man. That can work too

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Because life is filled with massive moral grays. There's good and bad in many options. If only that could be realized here.

[@BthereorBsquared]

Lol what is wrong with you

[@VITAS874]

Protoss can't be infected.

[@JusDoc]

thanks for posting this btw. i chose the other way for the Protoss research, and was very curious

[@MegaWinner16]

Kerrigan is NOT happy.

[@MrCouchmen]

I can imagine what Kerrigan would do if she discovered that Ariel kissed Jim.

[@URKCEHinoSuu]

Remember people, whatever happens and whatever reasons other people might give... HUMANITY FIRST. Xenos aren't coming to save you just cause you saved some of their race. It is your fellow man, a human being who truly understands you, cause guess what...he's also human.

[@KiR2RuN4FuN]

Man...I just had to like it. You spoke it perfectly right. Terranhood.

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

But protoss do save Raynor KEKW

[@KiR2RuN4FuN]

Still doesn't change the fact I'm not my dad with the Protoss love. It always was a Terran side to me.

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

Canonical lore stated that the haven colonists were carriers for zerg infestation. There was a reason Tosh says isnt jt odd how the zerg seem to be following her and her people. It is unfortunate but infestation isn't always a rapid process. In this case it lays dormant for some time before mutating the colonists. It sucks to say that the protosz were in the right.

[@justnoob8141]

Colin Tentis funny because all of protoss cure is never use outside of Stukov if I correct

[@fumarc4501]

Colin Tentis they never made it to the core worlds. Jim kept them away, that’s a win.

[@NeoCreo1]

Nope, it’s explicitly stated in the Star Craft 2 “movie” that came with the collectors edition that she’s able to create a cure for the colonists

[@orange3023]

This was a better outcome. Zerg Infestation is a one-way trip for humans. Ariel discovers a cure for that, it could not only help her people but all of humanity. The Protoss have a cure, but they choose not t use them, they are fanatics and that impairs them. If you choose the opposite I believe Ariel rushes and cuts corners out of desperation to find a cure, and that backfires.

[@Samagachi]

Is that why the protoss don’t have nukes?

[@orange3023]

???@@Samagachi

[@Samagachi]

@@orange3023 is the fact that they’re fanatics why they can’t use nukes but terrans can?

[@orange3023]

@@Samagachi I don’t understand what you’re asking

[@jergarmar]

Consistency be darned, and Protess be darned, in the narrative of the wider story this feels like what Raynor would do. He's a character almost defined by loyalty. He knows it might be hopeless, but he's not going to choose "random Protoss character" over Ariel, and he's certainly not going to personally wipe out a colony at the Protoss' behest. Explain the aftermath all you want (such as the Protoss have been already shown to prefer the purification of a zerg-tainted world, rather than even attempting to save it), but this feels right. That being said, the choice is to the PLAYER, not literally to Raynor, so if a player tends to resonate more with the Protoss, I'm not going to berate that choice. But I'm for the Terrans, baby!

[@theblade1251]

That random protoss character is technically the one you controlled in the brood war missions

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

But Raynor knows what infectations look like. He knows how badly goes and how fast spreads. he never hearded of a cure nor a way to cure, only that fire works as selendis said. I do think both options are completely a "Raynor" thing. Remember that this raynor was Betrayed by a pretty girl that had something to do with Zerg, not sure you wanna trust another one xd

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

@@theblade1251 are you sure? Serious question, have no idea

[@jergarmar]

@@Kurumi_Kazuha Heh, I think it's Raynor's curse to have a soft spot for Zerg girls. But seriously, from a narrative perspective, I REALLY like how Hanson being Zerg-infected mirrors Kerrigan being infected. It makes the previous choice pretty weighty, whatever the player chooses.

[@kemoyhenry1128]

I love how the protos work together at all times

[@Benyhl2]

i liked her storyline even thought they may end up close together with Jim sadly i understand lack of it seeing now whole story of starcraft 2 with lotv

[@Kurumi_Kazuha]

I choose the protoss. Knowing that technically the doctor was right doesn't change my mind. Risking so much for a "maybe" in this situation is a no no. Imagine if she is wrong snd there is no cure, everyone dies probably even us too. Sometimes a leader must take hard decisions, even if the people doesn't understand it. Hell, even if after the decision he will loose such role or even worst will die for it.

[@KimJongFunny]

I hope he got a bit of Love after this Mission

[@ucbuianh9046]

Maybe after the fight on Char. They figure out how to cleanse infested people by using the Xel'naga artifact, just like how they did to Kerrigan

[@NeoCreo1]

It’s confirmed she’s able to create a cure, but it’s limited to the haven virus (Kerrigan was infested in a much more extensive way)

[@zottffss]

I did not even choose my path when I saw the choice. Both were extraordinarily tough.

[@justnoob8141]

If Starcraft told me anything is that Stukov was almost cured from zerg infestation and actually being alive again

[@halo12390]

hmm... is it just me? or did Bizzard forgot about the infestation when you chose to kill Protoss? Consistency darnit.

[@shiningarmour6805]

Yeah, what the hell happened to the infestation?! Did the good-will of mankind get rid of it, was that the cure? pfft

[@messi1513]

she did say that she will find a cure if jim doesn't kill the people

[@featurelength5086]

Alternate universes, the story is such that no matter who Raynor sides with, he was right to do so.

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

A Canon: The infestation was only limited to a few colonists who were successfully contained; Raynor fights off the purifier. B Canon: Almost _all_ of the colonists were infested, legit necessitating a purification. Hanson's haste to find a cure ends with her infestation. Schrodinger's Gun; anything not yet _explicitly_ revealed can be seamlessly retconned, with the viewer none the wiser. In this case, the probability that there was infestation on the colony _and_ that it was widespread. In both scenarios, the answer to the first is "yes", but in this branch the answer to the second is "no".

[@markcastillo2622]

@@NewTypeDilemma01 Schrodinger's Gun hahaha, nice one.

[@the1337fleet]

He sent those boys out there to get a kiss from a future Velma

[@SimplyDuker]

Hey, you win some, you lose some.

[@rawfleshStarCraft615]

This game take me back to 2010.

[@JBrander]

Pickup, Shotgun, Zerg, and you

[@nakfoor1846]

One of my favorite scenes from Wings of Liberty.

[@romankvapil9184]

I don't understand when Selendis is presented with a chance to find a cure for the Zerg virus, she didn't bother to give it a chance and help her when Jim vouches Ariel. At least to try and contain the Zerg infestation while Ariel does her research. At least put the player on a timer to hold out on before Selendis decides to pull a full extermination process on the planet.

[@Batou3]

Selendis isnt Tasadar. She prefers burning everything instead of saving anyone

[@luisiana1121]

I would assume that Selendis lacks experience when dealing with the zerg mixed in with the terrans. Tassadar and Zeratul have loads of experience dealing with the zerg and since they really respect Raynor, helping them kill the overmind and escaping into Shakuras, they would honor his word more compared to Selendis who only heard stories. If this were fenix also, he’d give the cure a chance like he took a chance with the Nerazim

[@T2Runner]

Jim Raynor: I ain't that good... I'm just that nigga.

[@benjaminaguirre2992]

they could never make me hate you dr hanson

[@rawfleshStarCraft615]

I hope that Haven won't get invaded by Hybrids.

[@enderbud1425]

I picked helped ariel even though my favorite race is protoss protoss kills too many people so its about time we kill them once XD

[@HaxeRain]

well, you have already the zerg campaigns and those missions involving the tal´darim, so you get your killing protoss fee, and it feels bad to not side with the protoss that are not your enemys

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

The first time I played this mission against protoss in mode brutal I lost lol they are hard.

[@tomascostanzo3673]

jajajaja When I first played the mission I just loved the way Ariel takes out her glasses in such a sexy manner and asks Jim if he wants to stay in Haven.

[@MrNintoku]

See I thought along the lines of purge the colony and if anyone happened to not be infected I would save them if I could.

[@InquisitorBot]

I think its easier to fight the zerg than the protos because theh have lasers that can kill you in seconds

[@soul24311]

They also have SCOUTS 😂😂😂

[@jeramahia123]

The doc looks exactly like Naomi from MGS.

[@DartAleks]

That's Liara's voice.

[@selinajayme737]

If u choose to help the protoss just spam starships and charge bases getting infested(destroy da flying unit with da scorpion tail first)

[@everydaymotivation8888]

If I play that game I will choose protect the colonist and I will miss that doctor

[@glazeplays6192]

Bro he already have a girlfriend Kerrigan.

[@ReksaNC]

Could we keep her until char Mission? Or until last Mission.. Will raynor Back to Hyperion and help Ariel?

[@DaDunge]

Seriously Protoss who beleived burnign human colnies to get rid of Zerg should not be allowed to use the phrase "en taro tassadar", Tassadar went rogue because he refused to burn any more human colonies.

[@fumarc4501]

New human colony and independent nation. Success.

[@AdrianCHOY]

I love the media “Vermillion” by Dominion.

[@sadas3190]

After binging MELE can't unhear Liara

[@donggeonkang1007]

Although real Jim Raynor's voice from sc 2 is same person's from sc 1, Matt hornor's voice sounds like Jim Raynor's voice from sc 1

[@sentinellunar5223]

To me that boils down protect a nobody or help a homie out

[@GrogMindwhip]

"I ain't that good" - quote Bruce Campbell.

[@swordlink93]

do u feel bad when u chose protoss over ariel?

[@CJake3]

Is the question addressed to me? Or the commenter below? If to me: chosing protoss over ariel is the worst choice in the entire game imho.

[@swordlink93]

commenter bellow lol but yea is the worst choice and i saw ur other video their reasoning to help protoss is jz simply not logic

[@canebro1]

+swordlink93 I always choose protoss because of the rewards and the mission is more fun. However, I always feel bad because of the story, it doesn't make sense and I don't like betraying Ariel.

[@zheyuezhao456]

+swordlink93 I choose to help the protoss because I like Selendis, lol

[@rob3at896]

No, because I still think it was the better choice, based on the information they gave us before choosing the mission. Giving the infestation time to spread and evolve, while you risk your forces against an even more dangerous protoss fleet seems way too risky. Especially since you don't know wether Ariel will succeed or not. Zerg and infested multiply far too quickly so the infestation must die, if you want to safe any civilians.

[@Sarednaid]

Great, now I feel bad for choosing the civilians massacre

[@dragonmyballsz268]

this mission part give some guilt feeling even now. I chose to sided with Protoss, i mean we dont know what s going on there, and Protoss promised me knowledge and aid which i think would be a great help in the war against Zerg, and after Zeratul's messages i think there s no much time left so eliminate em, escuing the remaining people is a better choice while also halted Zerg's movement. Never know that the doctor gonna turn herself into Zerg, and i dont even got the aid from Protoss in Planet Char

[@thewhitekingofn3580]

Only by fire.

[@michaelmccarty1327]

I despise this decision. My first playthrough, I chose this one because my impression was that the Protoss were killing people preemptively before some of them had even been infested. And that appears to be the case, IF you choose Hansen. Of course there are no repercussions for assaulting the Protoss Executor's fleet, let alone the plausibility that one Hyperion Battlecruiser could even pull off such a feat. What really pisses me off was that there were ONLY two options here. You couldn't tell the Executor to piss off and let Jim handle it, and THEN quarantine the infested Terrans. And God forbid you ask the Protoss to help you purify everything EXCEPT the uninfested colonists. Oh no, it was all Selendis or all Hansen, and reality simply conformed to whatever the hell you wanted to pick. Think killing colonists is bad? No problem! Just fight the protoss and you can save them all, even infested ones! Think fighting protoss is stupid? No problem! Just kill the zerg and ask the protoss nicely and they'll leave. Ironically, you save civilians either way, and the Protoss are cool with it in Haven's fall. I mean, it would have been so easy just tosay to the protoss, "Yeah, we'll take care of the zerg, no problem! Good bye!" Then trap them in cages like you see in Safe Haven, and then work on the cure. You wouldn't even have to lie, just tell the protoss that you're keeping some of them alive for research so you can kill them harder the next time this happens, and if you find a cure along the way, all the more reason the protoss were wrong. Assuming the decision is binary, I went back and forth on what to choose. Finally I realized that in Haven's Fall, you don't have to kill anyone who isn't already infested. On the other side, in Safe Haven, the Protoss are killing non-infested people. So regardless of how the protoss intended the situation to be (or the writers for that matter), they are essentially holding civilians hostage unless you kill all the zerg, who somehow become more numerous if you side with the protoss (Maybe the protoss already killed a bunch of zerg in Safe Haven before you engage them?). So I say screw the protoss! They don't get to kill uninfested people just because I didn't choose the mission they wanted me to! I know that siding with the protoss is the darker, more realistic, more classic starcraft position, but like I said in the comments of the other video, Terrans didn't get where they were by following men who say the word "impossible."

[@frosthounded]

That has always been the MO of the protoss. In SC1 it was even worse... they sterilized entire planets for mere Zerg presence. Jim stepping in and doing the dirty deed himself meant he saved a lot of innocent lives

[@Siegberg91]

@@frosthounded the attacks in star craft one were pretty huge. Menksk used his psybeacons to provoke a full blown Invasion of the zerg against the Dominion. And protoss took proably not kindly for terrans who play with fire.

[@DaDunge]

Burning entire planets to be sure is the Protoss way, it's been like that since the first missions of starcraft 1.

[@KirbyGotenksabsorbed]

Going with Hanson is the canon route either way.

[@badrinath5306]

I have no regrets siding with the protoss. The risk is just too big. Maybe she can find a cure but failing to means the entire core worlds is dead meat ripe for taking. I have seen comments giving reference to something saying she finds a cure if u give her time but is it really worth it to take such a risk. I mean u would still have to protect the surviving colonies no way u can just let them get infested. I restart the mission if an additional colony gets infested but make sure all of em are alive. At this point there r zerg bases and even hive clusters in the infested colonies even if u can administer a cure to them good luck getting it to them the real cure was fire plus cure but Ariel beeped it up by not being sensible enough.

[@fara.r.8181]

I prefer this one.

[@DrownedInExile]

Plot twist: Ariel kissed him so she could get an opportunity to swipe James' cigarette. Good smokes are hard to come by on the frontier!

[@Arkaeus04]

Need to see Zerg v Tyranid so badly

[@klade5031]

The Zerg are just watered-down Tyranids. The Nids will win in both quantity AND quality.

[@luxeternity]

After reading too much about tyranids even some of their basic units..bruh..zerg gonna be fuck up so bad. Even Zerus the zerg homeworld never gonna survive even the smallest of the hive fleet

[@user-vy9mk7um1b]

Nah. Despite all their evolutionary achievements, zergs are less flexible, you won't meet ultralisk, who can shoot, for example. Plus, despite synapse stuff, nids' hive mind is less centralised, since it is gestalt of minds. The only nit pick is how Shadow in the Warp will work... If there is one - it can become more challenging even with QoB on battlefield, since psy-powers will be shunned and as melee warrior... Well, maybe she is fine, but if nids place tyrant or swarm lord - things gonna be hell difficult for zergs, summing all up. But if SitW won't work - with QoB there could be some chances.

[@farhani29]

I chose to purify the colony because I wasn't convinced enough that Ariel will be able to find a cure soon. I don't like betraying anyone but I was thinking about the knowledge the protoss are willing to share with me and that I was hoping that the doctor would understand me. Well, it didn't go well with her. By the way, a few things have changed in the game. The last time I played this game was when I was in my third year in high school. Now I'm a college instructor for almost three years and my students don't know anything about me playing these games.

[@localidiot3868]

Hmmmm,trying to destroy a mothership or using spectres with nukes?of course spectres with nukes

[@mivapusa]

"Sarah who?"

[@idont1311]

i could have saved most of the people...maybe.. maybe... but either way... I needed more protoss research.

[@user-hn5bi3nw9y]

Chosing protos is right, that people are already infested. We wil neverl hear of them in a future, becouse all of them part of sworm in next expansions)

[@dnw009]

Considering that her cure worked, would that mean that you could make soldiers immune to infestation like the protoss are? That ought to put a dent on zerg investation.

[@justnoob8141]

Махамбет Мамыров did protoss EVER get a cure from Mobius Corp?

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

Technically, all that can be confirmed was that in this path, infestation was limited to only a few colonists. Whether Hanson found a cure or not is unknown, but after HotS, it might not strictly be _required_ anymore. The only "cure" was the Protoss-based nanites used on Stukov--and even that failed, eventually. Frankly, the thing that bothers me more is that if Haven is located on the edge of Protoss space, what are the implications behind the scenes of Legacy of the Void?

[@justnoob8141]

Cynical Aspie uhhhh... which scene?

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

I meant "behind the scenes" of Legacy of the Void--you know, what's happening that the player _doesn't_ see. Considering that (spoiler for anyone sitting under a rock) Amon was razing any Terran world he could find and many Protoss were possessed, it's perfectly possible that Haven would have been eradicated by the Golden Armada regardless.

[@mhdhouri2906]

Big mistake what a doctor who has very tall nail

[@onEmEmbErstudios]

Should we choose the Protoss or saving the people?

[@KiR2RuN4FuN]

Well, it's a matter of one's choice. Different people would give different answers. Blizzard just tried to make both paths canon to get the fanbase pleased. Speaking for myself : I went with Protect The Colony path because of a set of personal reasons. Here's to summarize : I never was a Protoss fan, I always liked Terran the most, Ariel was pretty I'm not gonna lie, and I also felt the terranhood-way. Call it a morale, and you'll be close. Otherwise just felt like a betrayal to me, the tone of this episode further supports that feeling for me. I just couldn't abandon my fellow terrans, to say short.

[@belgianheskey]

Jim Raynor the simp

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

She never found the cure. We all know that.

[@NeoCreo1]

Nope, it’s explicitly stated in the Star Craft 2 “movie” that came with the collectors edition that she’s able to create a cure for the colonists

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

@@NeoCreo1 Well, in that case, that is a mary sue move.

[@hauntinloves04]

@@NeoCreo1 where do you find that starcraft movie?

[@asterixgalo6020]

After that, raynor searches for a complicated way tu cure to the Queen of blades, who wants to destroy the colony

[@Metratch]

People like us dont get second chaces.... normal lifes are for good people... the job is for us

[@chrisidore023]

Kerrigan disliked this video XD

[@VIP854]

so what do I get if I choose the protoss?

[@CJake3]

+VIP854 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX_Uq6xnrduniaM

[@Dio____Brando]

did she end up curing them or they turned into infested terrans?

[@fumarc4501]

A placket of their “props” and a couple Protoss research points.

[@vincehenorga5789]

My goodness i regret choosing selendis. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[@seth4365]

your fault m9 just wanna see the kiss right ?

[@vincehenorga5789]

ya :(

[@seth4365]

Vince Henorga might as well restart your game XD

[@Eyrothath]

One fine piece of Protoss ass..

[@young5505]

Did she get to cure those people

[@justnoob8141]

Young if protoss can then she will

[@justnoob8141]

And protoss lost that cure somehow, maybe their cure nanite isn't enough for 2 person

[@breno8119]

To me this was cleary the correct decision. Protoss hate anything related to zerg, and they have a good reason for that, but because of this they don't consider alternatives. There is only one path to be followed and they will discard every other.

[@rustkarl]

I prefer the other ending. It’s the versions that feels ‘real’

[@TelmoAmaro]

Donnie sounds like Don Lemon

[@hyouzanren1846]

I will suprise if kerrigan didnt go after Ariel and rip her apart! 😅😅😅

[@mauriciolizarbe4835]

First canon

[@Raoul9753]

What is it with JIm and these hot Zerg babes? xD

[@anonnimoose7987]

Me after picking kill infected and perfectly saving everyone: 0 infested colonies Ariel: *injects self* Me: UNGRATEFUL SHIT Me after picking saving colony: Selandis: I hope your belief in these colonists is vindicated. Me: HOLY SHIT SHE STILL BELIEVES IN ME.

[@mechadoggy]

Ariel injects herself because she is frantically rushing in her research and tries to pull off a Jonas Salk who injected himself with the polio vaccine after prototyping it.

[@samseward1374]

It seems like both sides are self-fulfilling prophecy. Your beliefs are vindicated no matter what.

[@warllockmasterasd9142]

But Weren't Ariel Infected?

[@mechadoggy]

Ariel only got infected in the other timeline because she was rushing herself and became careless when working in the lab if Jim chooses to side with the Zerg against her people

[@VITAS874]

She still infected no matter what you choice.

[@warllockmasterasd9142]

@@VITAS874 Ah okay.

[@XiyuYang]

This is unrealistic. In the mission briefing Ariel already said the colony is not responding, people already got infected. I think a twist would be interesting, like if you chose to fight the Protoss, the people still get infected and the colony get destroyed; if you chose to destroy the colony, at some point in the mission Ariel finds the cure and you actually end up saving some colonists.

[@bard5099]

Holy shit I regret chosing protoss lmao

[@seth4365]

your fault m9 just wanna see the kiss right ?

[@SeudXe]

You called down the thunder. Now deal with it.

[@jackmcslay]

10:14 just like CNN these days

[@Eyrothath]

This route made no sense for me.. Jim and the Protoss are like best friends and he said it himself during the campaign that he doesn't like fighting the Protoss if he can avoid it and bros come before hoes and Ariel is a character we never see again and she's annoying.. Also, Selendis is one fine Protoss lady.. Same reason I picked Tosh over Nova during the campaign, made more sense and bros before hoes and that part becomes void anyways in HoTS where Nova says to Raynor "I might have let you escape if you helped me with my Tosh problem" which means that Raynor helping Tosh is canon..

[@justnoob8141]

John Rankin protoss love a good fight and Raynor choice is reasonable enough to not count as betrayal, even Selendis understand this when you choose protoss.

[@timberkiller666]

If you side with Nova, she will still capture Raynor. She just follows orders. Nothing changes aside from the conversation.

[@talandar5773]

Selendis got nerfed in LOTV

[@DaDunge]

No Jim works well with some of the more sane Protoss like Fenix, Zeratul and Tassadar, but these were all radicals in Protoss society the conclave burned human worlds without a moments hesitation at the drop of a zerg hat.

[@StormKnight1]

Choosing protoss over her is better, you can't cure the infestation and protoss points are much more valuable compared to Zerg.

[@NeoCreo1]

It’s explicitly stated in the Star Craft 2 “movie” that came with the collectors edition that she’s able to create a cure for the colonists

[@StormKnight1]

@@NeoCreo1 lies if she was able to find a cure she wouldn't turn herself zerg.

[@anghainguyen9951]

@@StormKnight1 nah she got turn in to Zerg because rush research you force he to do when chosing kill her people. It like doctor and Covid today, keep force Doctor to work with Covid with out let them rest make them have higher change get infection. On top of that we are playing with Jimmy, not Arthas

[@StormKnight1]

@@anghainguyen9951 learn better grammar.exe

[@martmandred9182]

@@anghainguyen9951 You sound like a killer. Shoot first asked questions later. Imagining this: You have a gun and the person in front of you has a virus but there's a chance it can be cured, you would not not take that chance and just pull the trigger? Not everything can be solved by force.

[@harrybaker5]

Donnie you fake news!

[@wateri4]

UNN = CNN

[@violet1587]

wateri4 Fake News😂😂😂

[@95DarkFire]

More like Fox News, where facts don't matter and everyone who disagrees is a liberal idiot.

[@blackknight6768]

95DarkFire they are both bad, but CNN is worse

[@thanhavictus]

Nah, they're more like fox news with the way they spin shit

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

BS.

[@minibeast21]

other grim alternative outcome where you arr forced to destroy colony is s much better ending than this ridciulous idealistic romantic alternative ending. alternative romantic 'cheesy' cure ending is ridiculous considering Starcraft lore has made it clear there isn't any cure zerg infestation of Terran, so why would allof s sudden one scientist or Dr on a backward planet working on her own suddenly out of the blue find a magical cure

[@Heldemon]

If all humans thought like you we'd proabbly be extinct by now.

[@thedevastator1994]

Helldemon, actually he has a point, Starcraft is supposed to be more grim than this, an ending for Ariel's alternative would be you help the colonists, but find out on the news a couple missions later they got infested anyway and attack other settlements, mauybe even have the Protoss do the Exterminatus anyway (basically making you feel stupid for evfen thinkihg the Zerg infestation is curable), this would fool new playes while veterans of the lore (playing SC1 or others9 can already guess how it will go.

[@cursetheroad]

Helldemon Clinging on false hope without addressing reality is dangerous too.

[@AlexZebol]

minibeast21 uuuum, pardon me? Stukov was revived as zerg, cured of infestation and later was captured and tortured by Narud.

[@fumarc4501]

minibeast21 pessimist.