Refuting Ammar Nakshawani's Lie Against Umar (RA)

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Dr Shadee Elmasry refutes Ammar Nakshawani's claim that Umar رضي الله عنه prevented the Prophet ﷺ from appointing Ali رضي الله عنه as the first Khalifa.
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@abdulazizbadi2782
@abdulazizbadi2782 Ай бұрын
It’s interesting that no matter how many outrageous claims they make against Sayyidna Umar, we end up loving him even more.
@AdamTaghavi1
@AdamTaghavi1 Ай бұрын
Because you’re all blind
@noorhussain6462
@noorhussain6462 Ай бұрын
Hadith of pen & paper =goggle it. You guys follow sunnah of umar and not the prophet pbuh
@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp
@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp Ай бұрын
You're the perfect example of deaf dumb blind.
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
Exactly, the rafidi religion is based upon fairytales myths and legends.
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
The rawafidh think muslims will fall for their myths and fairytales. No one wonder people are leaving the twelver shia religion in thier droves.
@IsolatedIntellectual
@IsolatedIntellectual Ай бұрын
Not to mention the fact that Shia claim that The Prophet ﷺ already appointed Ali رضي الله عنه as his successor at Ghadeer Khumm in front of tens of thousands of people three months earlier - and the Shias even celebrate this day as Eid Ghadeer. If he ﷺ really did appoint Ali رضي الله عنه as his successor in front of tens of thousands of witnesses, how can there be any doubt about Ali رضي الله عنه in this regard or how can anyone stop him from being Khalifa? Moreover, why would the Prophet ﷺ even need to write anything on his deathbed after he had already decided and declared his successor? In addition, Umar رضي الله عنه had no idea the Prophet ﷺ was about to leave this world, as evident from the fact that Umar رضي الله عنه thought the Prophet ﷺ would outlive them all. When the Prophet ﷺ passed away, Umar رضي الله عنه was in complete shock and disbelief - he stood outside with a sword saying he would strike the neck of anyone who says the Prophet ﷺ had died. It was only after Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه recited the ayaat of the Qur'an: وما محمد إلا رسول قد خلت من قبله الرسل أفائن مات أو قتل انقلبتم على أعقابكم - that Umar رضي الله عنه realise the Prophet ﷺ truly did leave this world. Umar رضي الله عنه said what he did about not troubling the Prophet ﷺ because he thought the Prophet ﷺ was merely ill, and there was no need to bother him when such matters could easily be taken care of after the Prophet ﷺ had recovered. The Shia narrative goes up in flames the minute you apply a little bit of critical thinking.
@SafinaSociety
@SafinaSociety Ай бұрын
Excellent points.
@sniperlizard4192
@sniperlizard4192 5 күн бұрын
Mashallah
@MrFaizaanshaikmodeen
@MrFaizaanshaikmodeen Ай бұрын
Mashaa Allah. Truly inspirational. May Allah engrave in our hearts love for the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam and for all his blessed companions.
@knisarcpa
@knisarcpa Ай бұрын
Sayidina Umar loves Sayidina Ali and Sayidina Ali loves Sayidina Umar. To claim to love one and have negative thoughts about the other is antithetical.
@TheMahdi12349
@TheMahdi12349 Ай бұрын
The son of Omar sided with ALI AS in a battle of Jamal against our mother 3isha thousands of Muslims butchered because she didn’t like that their Khalifa ALI was taking his time looking for uthmans killers. Read Islamic history it was a blood bath and stop being naive this naivety has resulted in your brothers and sisters being rap$d in Gaza. Stop the fwends bull crap you don’t threaten to burn your friends house reference Bukhari
@TheMahdi12349
@TheMahdi12349 Ай бұрын
lol friends threatening to burn his other friends house these sahaba are not very well mannered. al-Tabari writes that Umar shouted, "By God, either you come out to render the oath of allegiance [to Abu Bakr], or I will set the house on fire."
@abdullinho
@abdullinho Ай бұрын
@@TheMahdi12349tabari wrote all sayings, even if they were fabricated and false, he didnt differentiate. You are not a shaykh to comment on a saying with 0 understanding of the context, credibility or sanad of the saying
@Mahdi-sx4ql
@Mahdi-sx4ql Ай бұрын
Is that why sayidna Ali radiallah anho thought of sayidna omar radiallah anho of being a sinful, trecherous, dishonest, liar? Sahih muslim 1757c
@Mahdi-sx4ql
@Mahdi-sx4ql Ай бұрын
​​@@abdullinhowell sorry to burst ur bubble but it is sahuh ul sanad so is the musannaf report. But you play witg your very loose rijal rules that can both authenticate or weaken %90 of your ahadith. Afterall why is sahih sanad even needed for a historical report that has been corroporated many times. Ibn taymiya says a corroporated report is hujjah even if narrated by fussaq and fujjar especially with regards to history reports.
@n.a.1397
@n.a.1397 Ай бұрын
These rebuttals are very important, as several Shia-extremists are getting more attention online. Also, Iran's role in Palestine has given many of them an extra boost.
@TheMahdi12349
@TheMahdi12349 Ай бұрын
I wish you guys stand will Palestine with your bullshit countries like the Persians did.
@theamirbarismillworks2253
@theamirbarismillworks2253 Ай бұрын
Poor nasibi, you obviously need a tissue.
@islamictalksetc
@islamictalksetc Ай бұрын
It's an honour to be on the side of Sayyidina Umar RadiAllahu Taala Anhu Ajmaeen. May Allah Taala unite us with him in Jannah.
@Mahdi-sx4ql
@Mahdi-sx4ql Ай бұрын
Its an honour to be on omar's side??? In other words its an honour for you to hurt Rasulullah pbuh and be kicked out of the room. 😆
@islamictalksetc
@islamictalksetc Ай бұрын
@@Mahdi-sx4ql oh if only you knew what that honour will be. but one day you will. May Allah Taala unite me with Sayyidina Umar RadiAllahu Taala Anhu in the hereafter and may you be where he won't. say ameen
@Mahdi-sx4ql
@Mahdi-sx4ql Ай бұрын
@@islamictalksetc ameen, btw did u even read what i wrote and the repercussion of being on omar's side?
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Ibn Sa’ad: Narrated to us Ishaq bin Yusuf, from Muhammad bin Abdallah and Houdha bin Khalifa, who said: Narrated to us Ibn Awn, from Muhammad bin Sireen, who said: Umar ibn Khataab said: There did not remain a thing in me from the practises of jahiliyya (era of ignorance), except that I don't care whom of the people I have penetrated (Nakh) or who of them have penetrated (Nakh) me. [Tabaqat Al Kubra. Vol. 3, Pg. # 269 H. 3714.]
@Shah-wp6do
@Shah-wp6do 5 күн бұрын
@@Mahdi-sx4ql you’re thinking is sick
@delavagavaga7540
@delavagavaga7540 Ай бұрын
Ask Ibn abbas (RA) about the calamity of Thursday..
@MohamedBharwani
@MohamedBharwani Ай бұрын
The fact is, Umar refused the Holy Propthet to write down whatever he wanted say. Dont you as a Sunni find it problamatic that someone stops the Prophet (saws) on his deathbed, till the Prophet gets upset and asks them to leave.
@87thehoss
@87thehoss Ай бұрын
So you would’ve rather had the profit strain himself? Sometimes a high-ranking official has to make decisions on behalf of, and in the best interest of the leader. Also, what he had to write down was revealed in his final sermon.
@Hussain-bs5mu
@Hussain-bs5mu Ай бұрын
1. There is a HUGE difference between the prophet PBUH and his companions. 2. The Quran states clearly (And he does not speak out of (his own) desire. It is not but revelation revealed [ to him ]....53:3-) (‎وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَىٰ إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَىٰ). The prophet PBUH was sent by GOD to us and thus his orders should be taken accordingly. 3. In addition this is not a matter of a country and high ranking officials. Again this is a prophet that was sent to us by GOD. And thus the comparison should not even be on the table.
@haroondabbagh2869
@haroondabbagh2869 Ай бұрын
Did you just completely ignore or not watch rest of video after point was raised
@Mckazooz
@Mckazooz 20 күн бұрын
That's how you know people like you are ignorant. Obviously didn't watch it and like to extrapolate things to fit your twisted presumptions.
@mohamedmouallem9721
@mohamedmouallem9721 18 күн бұрын
It’s kind of like when Ali AS refused to remove ‘messenger of god’ from the hudaybiyyah treatise after the prophet commanded it, THREE times, right? 😉😉😉😉😉
@sajadarif3367
@sajadarif3367 Ай бұрын
jazakallah May Allah SWT reward you for defending the companions. Ameen May Allah SWT increase us in knowledge and understanding and open the heart to his realities as he done for you. Ameen.
@FreePalestine_____
@FreePalestine_____ Ай бұрын
*How to debunk Shiasm in 1 sentence:* One of the sons of Ali (ra) was named after Abu Bakr (ra).
@AhmadFakih123
@AhmadFakih123 Ай бұрын
Imagine calling your son kouniya 😂 lie to someone else
@midnightnv6211
@midnightnv6211 Ай бұрын
Nothing gets past you Sherlock. That son was biologically Abu Bakr’s son. When AB passed away his widow got married to Imam Ali (ai) who raised that son. Do your research.
@AhmadFakih123
@AhmadFakih123 Ай бұрын
@@midnightnv6211 Oh the gracious sahabi Muhammad Abu Bakr which is the son of our Abu Bakr that was the Shia of Imam Ali that physically pulled out his sister Aisha from the camel during the battle of camels. Now it makes sense why he called his son Abu Bakr
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
Rafidi: its quran and ahl ul bayt Shia “hadith” books; *Al kafi book 2 chapter 22 hadith number 3 Chapter on Following the Sunnah and Evidence of the Book* Abu ‘Abdallah (AS) has said, ‘Everything must be referred to the holy Quran and the Sunnah, the noble traditions of the holy Prophet (s.a.) and any Hadith that does not agree with the holy Quran it is a useless statement.’”
@AhmadFakih123
@AhmadFakih123 Ай бұрын
@@mughal_r9374 its Quran and Ahlul Bayt. Ahlul Bayt doesn’t have made up Sunnah. It’s degreded by our prophet. Which is basically a Sunnah of our prophet. But we only take the Sunnah from Ahlul Bayt and good charactered Sahabas that defended ahlul bayt. Not form 100,000 sahabi that his character doesn’t reflect islam
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
It is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts. ~ Qur’an 22:46
@A.A471
@A.A471 Ай бұрын
How can Sunnis not see that there is an issue here. Claiming 21 verses are revealed right after Umar said the verse, and that the Prophet SAW said if there was a prophet after him it would be Umar. Sunnis are hypocrites, if Shia said anything near like this about Ali ibn Abi Talib, we would get called kaffir. Also Imam Ali A.S is in the Quran. Ghadeer was the announcement of Imam Ali A.S‘s successorship and the announcement of Ahlulbayt. The calamity of Thursday, was a test by the Prophet SAW on his companions, the Prophet SAW knew if he wrote the successor in his will, then the enemies would have destroyed it after. The way I view the calamity of Thursday is its purpose was a test of his companions. Now that eliminates the question of well why didn’t the Prophet SAW write it after ?
@muizzee
@muizzee Ай бұрын
I feel people should read a sermon called Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyah to get a step closer towards the truth, and may Allah Swt guide us all from that point onwards.
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Ай бұрын
The naming of the children of Ali(ra) and his children's marriage into Umar (ra) family is much stronger arguments against the rafidh than the circular argument of Umar (ra) and the Quran as said at the start.
@TheMahdi12349
@TheMahdi12349 Ай бұрын
Abu lahab was prophets uncle lol 😂
@shadabkhan-sy3sp
@shadabkhan-sy3sp Ай бұрын
​@@TheMahdi12349And? Whats your point?
@ghazialbadry6623
@ghazialbadry6623 Ай бұрын
Abu bakrs son of Ali’s name was Muhammed but it was a kunya so the PEOPLE named him abu bakr. Umar son of Ali was never Umar it was Amir. Uthman ibn Ali was named after Uthman ibn Maz'un and this is backed up by bihar al anwar.
@AAA777I
@AAA777I Ай бұрын
​@ghazialbadry6623 the son of Ali ibn abi talib كرم الله وجه was Abu Bakr. Yes Abu Bakr ibn ali رضي الله عنه. You are saying its a kunya. This kunya was only to 1 person before him in the history. Abu bakr as saddiq رضي الله عنه
@ghazialbadry6623
@ghazialbadry6623 Ай бұрын
@@AAA777I I’m saying his name wasn’t Abu bakr. I’m saying his REAL name was Muhammed ibn Ali عليه السلام. You’ve now lied saying abu bakr was the only one named as “abu bakr”… So who was Abu Bakr bin Uthman al-Taymi???
@KtKo0t
@KtKo0t Ай бұрын
Allahumma barik
@Isthatoumar
@Isthatoumar Ай бұрын
Exactly why I love Umar ibn khattab رضي الله عنه my favorite sahabi❤️ got the same name too!
@TheMahdi12349
@TheMahdi12349 Ай бұрын
Go read about the door of knowledge.
@FreePalestine_____
@FreePalestine_____ Ай бұрын
@@TheMahdi12349 We did. Ali (ra) married off his daughter with Umar (ra). That's how close they were.
@AdamTaghavi1
@AdamTaghavi1 Ай бұрын
All claims are from weak narrators and weak chains…shame you resorting to this low level by not giving a strong reply.
@wqsnsr8
@wqsnsr8 Ай бұрын
Jazak Allah
@Redishblue99
@Redishblue99 Ай бұрын
Maasha Allah❤
@Unknown-et9ic
@Unknown-et9ic Ай бұрын
Just wanted questions out of sincerity. It’s clear that Umar RA had the best interest in heart hence why he went straight away to sort the election. I’m sure I can understand from a Shia side why Ali RA was meant for the khalifa. But my point is, since ALI RA found out that he was not in the election and let it go and was happy with the decision. Wouldn’t that be a test for him to accept what was written? It goes back to these verse : And it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.” (AI-Baqarah, 2:216) Do you think what Umar RA did was right in anyway? He was a great fighter, he had great wisdom, and was a warrior. But it just really confuses me if the prophet Muhammad SAW chose him as a wali, it can of course confuse anyone. And I’m sure there is so much value coming from ALI RA side too, because he was part of the family, he knew the inside and out, had a deep relationship with the prophet saw? Because the way all of this coming across emotional Shia’s are backlashing, and Sunni showing Umar having honour. But no is questioning whether ALI RA didn’t say anything is what makes a sign of true wisdom? I only say this is because every academic, seems to make it more logically make sense ALI being the khalifa. But we automatically try to justify it with Umar RA qualities when there is nothing with that at all. Just open to understand
@muizzee
@muizzee Ай бұрын
If you want to understand more on this issue than Ali RA was fine with Umar or Abu Bakr being the caliph or not, just read the Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyah and you will find all the answers. Do let me know what is your opinion on this. Salaam
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Watch The Lady of Heaven to start
@boringthing1
@boringthing1 Ай бұрын
Doctor, I have a question if you don't mind answering...
@michigantv6198
@michigantv6198 8 күн бұрын
SubhanAllah
@Tifsa123
@Tifsa123 Ай бұрын
SubhanAllah. The way you guys elevate umar above the prophet saws. Heartfelt. If you are Sunni and come across this, please examine these Hadiths and umars conduct unbiasedly.
@mohammadmaster6019
@mohammadmaster6019 2 күн бұрын
@@Tifsa123 WE elevate Umar? If youre shia you made Ali and the imams into Gods. May Allah save us from being like you people
@phenomabbas
@phenomabbas Ай бұрын
Bro literally said that Umar asked the prophet (saww) to have his wives completely covered. You have no problem in believing that Umar had more Ghairah than the prophet (saww) ? You have no Problem in believing that Umar on some occasions had better Judgement than the Prophet (saww) ?
@ma55382uk
@ma55382uk Ай бұрын
Its impossible that Umar could be a Prophet because no Prophet ever worshipped idols Also many hadiths in Sunni tradition show Umar ra not knowing something
@DarioHaruni
@DarioHaruni Ай бұрын
There's a hadith where it is reported that Aisha (r.a) said about Zayd ibn Harithah (the ex-adopted son of the Prophet): "If Zayd were alive, the Prophet would've chosen him as a khalifah." This means Aisha knew that khilafah is appointed by the Prophet, no?
@abyzayd2022
@abyzayd2022 Ай бұрын
Not exactly, Umm al Mumenin Aishah had this as her iwn opinion because the name Zayd was mentioned un Quran and that is a strong proof he is special. But eventually arab tribes would not accept anyone except someone strong feom Quraysh.
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
And whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger and fears Allah and is conscious of Him - it is those who are the attainers ~ Qur’an 24:52
@guiders14
@guiders14 Ай бұрын
Oh so umar’s saying supersede Prophet’s saying? Great, what don’t you make Umar a Prophet. Let Prophet Muhammad saww be a random human being for you.
@maliksameer3231
@maliksameer3231 Ай бұрын
Asalamu alaikum, how can i send question to Dr.
@SafinaSociety
@SafinaSociety Ай бұрын
Info@safinasociety.org
@imranabbas854
@imranabbas854 Ай бұрын
Umar said what? 'No, wait?' Are you ashamed to quote the exact reply he (Umar) gave to the greatest man ever to live? You are not doing justice to your followers.
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
“The truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish.” ~ Qur’an 17:81
@AdnanAli_313
@AdnanAli_313 Ай бұрын
You should say this to your leaders we are doing our part.
@Shah-wp6do
@Shah-wp6do 5 күн бұрын
@@AdnanAli_313this ayah is for the Shia
@AdnanAli_313
@AdnanAli_313 5 күн бұрын
@Shah-wp6do So we on the truth because falsehood is vanished . If you implying that then ok but it's not what we teach and this verse should be understood by reading completely to understand the context which it is in.
Ай бұрын
Umar had the permission to use a judgement... Is the judgement of Umar needed when the prophet is conveying something? Do you actually hear what you say? Then why do we even need a prophet? 🤷 For those who actually have the capacity to think properly without bias towards any sect of the religion will immediately spot this nonsense. Don`t go towards `point number this or that` until you clarified that huge statement. We don`t care, even if you would have 500 points of refutation. If the asl is not correct, everything else should be forsaken.
@SafinaSociety
@SafinaSociety Ай бұрын
Quran: "Take their opinion in matters."
@alimirzabeg
@alimirzabeg Ай бұрын
No one can resolve this issue but to confuse it more until you know who you are? Means what is Human Creation
@Yousif0291
@Yousif0291 Ай бұрын
So the refutation is that Umar is so great that even Allah swt revealed surahs in according to his sayings and opinions afterwards? You dont find this problematic? Normaly it is the Shias who are accused of worshipping Ali(we dont), but these things about Umar is ok? That he had ijtihad to not let the Prophet talk? Also, if he already have been denied once at his death bed why would he even try it again the next day? Umar would say the same "he is still sick". His messege had already been deleivered before. There were those who accepted it then, and those who denied him to even repeat it. And lastly, why did neither Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthmann name any of their children Ali, Hassan, or Hussain? If the naming of children is so relevent in showing companionship, the kindness was cleary only onesided then.
@muhammadaquib9974
@muhammadaquib9974 Ай бұрын
Regarding last point : Is only Ali AS, Hussain AS, Hasan AS from the Prophet's SAW family? Umar RA's children names include Fatima, Zainab. Wasn't fatima AS also the daughter of Hazrat Muhammad SAW? Uthman RA himself married 2 daughters of Hazrat Muhammad SAW i.e Ruqayyah AS, Umme Kulsom AS. Would you give your daughter to any low individual and if you are not an adult would you accept giving your sister or cousin's hand in marriage to someone you consider disbeliever? let alone Prophet Muhammad SAW who knew about the hypocrites of that time more than you do gave two daughters hand in marriage to Hazrat Uthman RA Regarding the prohibition of writing by Hazrat Umar RA do some research it's refutation is available on popular websites eg "This incident happened on a Thursday, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) died on the following Monday, i.e., four days later. He could have asked others to write that document, but because he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did not do that, we know that it was not revelation that he could have concealed"
@Yousif0291
@Yousif0291 Ай бұрын
@@muhammadaquib9974 We are talking about Umars enmity towards Ali. Your point about him naming them names of the daughters of the prophet has nothing to do with it lol? My point still stands. And how the Prophet was around the hypocrites is another topic by itself, but even in Bukhari 6585 states that even the Prophets doesnt know what his companions will innovate after his time. And also Nasai 3221 the Prophet refuses marrying Fatima to Abu bakr and Umar so what does that tell us?? And my statement about the document stands the same you really didnt address anything new. Now you do some research in your own books and you will find that Ali and Umar wasnt all happy dandy with each other. Bukhari 4240: Ali didnt give alligience for 6 months and felt opressed. Bukhari 3092: Fatima dies angry with Abu bakr. Bukhari 6830: Ali opposed Umar. Ibn Abi shaybah 37045 sahih isnad: Umar threatens to burn the house of Fatima with those inside. Wassalam brother.
@yourpapa6641
@yourpapa6641 Ай бұрын
@@Yousif0291 "I heard 'Ali say: 'The best of people after the Messenger of Allah is Abu Bakr, and the best of people after Abu Bakr is 'Umar.'" Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 106 Narrated 'Ali: that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: "Abu Bakr and 'Umar are the masters of the elder people among the inhabitants of Paradise, from the first ones and the last ones, not including the Prophets and the Messengers. Do not inform them O 'Ali." Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3666 Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf: that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "Abu Bakr is in Paradise, 'Umar is in Paradise, 'Uthman is in Paradise, 'Ali is in Paradise, Talhah is in Paradise, Az-Zubair is in Paradise, 'Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf is in Paradise, Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas is in Paradise, Sa'eed bin Zaid is in Paradise, and Abu 'Ubaidah bin Al-Jarrah is in Paradise." Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3747 Bukhari 6585 does not mention which companions however in the lifetime of the Prophet he himself said that the above people will be in paradise. Either you are calling Rasool Allah a liar (Astagfirullah) or twisting words for your benefit. As for marrying his daughter, if this is significant to you then here: Rasool Allah married Hafsa R.A the daughter of Umar A.S And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah. (From Surah Ahzab) If Allah is divinely giving respect to the wives of the Prophet that include daughters of (Abu Bakr and Umar R.A) what's your problem with them? It was narrated that 'Abdullah bin Salimah said: "I heard 'Ali say: 'The best of people after the Messenger of Allah is Abu Bakr, and the best of people after Abu Bakr is 'Umar.'" Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 106
@yourpapa6641
@yourpapa6641 Ай бұрын
@@Yousif0291 As for Bukhari 3092, Fatima R.A: It has been narrated on the authority of 'A'isha that Fatima and 'Abbas approached Abu Bakr, soliciting transfer of the legacy of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to them. At that time, they were demanding his (Holy Prophet's) lands at Fadak and his share from Khaibar. Abu Bakr said to them: I have heard from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). Then he quoted the hadith having nearly the same meaning as the one which has been narrated by Uqail on the authority of al-Zuhri (and which his gone before) except that in his version he said: Then 'Ali stood up, extolled the merits of Abu Bakr mentioned his superiority, and his earlier acceptance of Islam. Then he walked to Abu Bakr and swore allegiance to him. (At this) people turned towards 'Ali and said: you have done the right thing. And they became favourably inclined to 'Ali after he had adopted the proper course of action. Reference : Sahih Muslim 1759b Also Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri: The Prophet (ﷺ) delivered a sermon and said, "Allah gave a choice to one of (His) slaves either to choose this world or what is with Him in the Hereafter. He chose the latter." Abu Bakr wept. I said to myself, "Why is this Sheikh weeping, if Allah gave choice to one (of His) slaves either to choose this world or what is with Him in the Here after and he chose the latter?" And that slave was Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) himself. Abu Bakr knew more than us. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Bakr! Don't weep. The Prophet (ﷺ) added: Abu- Bakr has favored me much with his property and company. If I were to take a Khalil from mankind I would certainly have taken Abu Bakr but the Islamic brotherhood and friendship is sufficient. Close all the gates in the mosque except that of Abu Bakr. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 466 Narrated `Uqba bin Al-Harith: I saw Abu Bakr carrying Al-Hasan and saying, "Let my father be sacrificed for you; you resemble the Prophet and not `Ali," while `Ali was laughing at this. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3750
@yourpapa6641
@yourpapa6641 Ай бұрын
@@Yousif0291 Narrated Humaid bin `Abdur-Rahman: Abu Huraira said, "During that Hajj (in which Abu Bakr was the chief of the pilgrims) Abu Bakr sent me along with announcers on the Day of Nahr ( 10th of Dhul-Hijja) in Mina to announce: "No pagans shall perform, Hajj after this year, and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka`ba in a naked state." Humaid bin `Abdur Rahman added: Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent `Ali bin Abi Talib (after Abu Bakr) and ordered him to recite aloud in public Surat Bara'a. Abu Huraira added, "So `Ali, along with us, recited Bara'a (loudly) before the people at Mina on the Day of Nahr and announced; "No pagan shall perform Hajj after this year and none shall perform the Tawaf around the Ka`ba in a naked state." Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4655 Indicates how close the companions were with each other when during early Islamic days. It was narrated from Abu Salih al-Hanafi that It was said to ‘Ali and Abu Bakr (رضي الله عنهما) on the day of Badr. Jibreel is with one of you and Mika`eel is with the other, and Israfeel, a mighty angel, is present at the fight - or he said, is present in the ranks. Reference : Musnad Ahmad 1257
@hamzamedina146
@hamzamedina146 Ай бұрын
Alhummduillah
@user-ms9wd4ws4z
@user-ms9wd4ws4z Ай бұрын
One important thing Dr Shadee did not mention is Allah already revealed the religion was complete. With the shia claim one has to say the prophet (s) failed to deliver the whole message which is kufr.
@theamirbarismillworks2253
@theamirbarismillworks2253 Ай бұрын
So how did your apu baker become caliph?
@dnjdjdjnkoe4462
@dnjdjdjnkoe4462 Ай бұрын
Ummm but you didn’t deal with the points he brought up?
@mah5262
@mah5262 Ай бұрын
Yes he did
@kenyattashabazz
@kenyattashabazz Ай бұрын
As Salaam Alakuim
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
Say, “Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.” ~ Qur’an 6:164
@KamalJA87
@KamalJA87 Ай бұрын
So umar is telling the prophet what’s best for him( regarding no one should see his wives.) Oh wow, so umar got more sense than Allah and the prophet. Ahahaha wow, may Allah forgive us all
@freedomofplestaininsplesta5497
@freedomofplestaininsplesta5497 Ай бұрын
You have brain of gold fish Allah gives omar his blessings in.the umma by aformin omar opinion open your brain
@KamalJA87
@KamalJA87 Ай бұрын
@@freedomofplestaininsplesta5497 Alhamdulilah
@jasminmalik3287
@jasminmalik3287 Ай бұрын
Ahhhh and here is the shia "mental gymnastics".
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
the fact that Ali r.a. the gate of knowledge exeeds umar r.a. in an overall knowledge field and we sunnis recognize that- by ur logic ali r.a. is more knowledgeble than Allah or prophet s..m. but luckily we dont have a fish brain and recognize the honors Allah has given his slaves and we look up to them with respect and take them as our role models instead of making a fuss over a bunch of nonarguments
@KamalJA87
@KamalJA87 Ай бұрын
At the end of the day it’s the prophet(pbuh) and his Ahlul bait(family) whom every Muslims are required to send blessing on every time they pray. No one else gets this honor and it’s nonnegotiable.
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg Ай бұрын
As for the question of the prophethood of Omar, show us in any religion in the world that a person has become a prophet after 30-40 years of worshiping idols. What kind of Sahabi was he when he fled from the battle of Uhud, the battle of Hunain, and the battle of Khybar? I left the funeral of the Prophet and started fighting for the caliphate in Saqeefah, then came after the burial and said, "Why didn't you wait for me?"
@uimoos
@uimoos Ай бұрын
Wow Omar was an advisor to Allah and the Prophet ha?
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Ibn Sa’ad: Narrated to us Ishaq bin Yusuf, from Muhammad bin Abdallah and Houdha bin Khalifa, who said: Narrated to us Ibn Awn, from Muhammad bin Sireen, who said: Umar ibn Khataab said: There did not remain a thing in me from the practises of jahiliyya (era of ignorance), except that I don't care whom of the people I have penetrated (Nakh) or who of them have penetrated (Nakh) me. [Tabaqat Al Kubra. Vol. 3, Pg. # 269 H. 3714.]
@zainkhorasanee1684
@zainkhorasanee1684 18 күн бұрын
Please read the following book written by one of the most prominent Sunni scholars in the fifth century A.H. Al-Hakim al-Haskani (died 490 AH). The book is titled Shawahid al-Tanzil li Qawaid al-Tafdil Ahl Al-Bayt in the Noble Qur’an, and is now available in an English translation (by Morteza Karimi). InshaAllah once you have read this scholarly work you would be in a better position of knowledge, and thus enabled to understand the truth of this matter based on The Ayats and Guidance from The Noble Qur’an…
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
It is He who shows you His signs and sends down to you from the sky, provision. But none will remember except he who turns back. So invoke Allah, sincere to Him in religion, although the disbelievers dislike it. ~ Qur’an 40:14
@Aaloshh
@Aaloshh Ай бұрын
Habibi its in the sahih, How dare he speak to rasul Allah like that! You forget to mention that.
@elmajraz6019
@elmajraz6019 Ай бұрын
What did he say? Please provide the source as well.
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
the whole damn video is about the hadith and ur saying 'frgt to mention'😨 u ok bro?
@elmajraz6019
@elmajraz6019 Ай бұрын
@@neko7981 just like the Christians, Shias love to take things out of context.
@JawadHaiderSyed
@JawadHaiderSyed Ай бұрын
That is insightful. Thank you for clarifying the true sunni belief that Umar was more than on two dozen occasions more knowledgeable and wiser than the Prophet saww himself. Off course shias don't believe that and they are keen on counting the times when Umar showed sheer ignorance and cowardice in battlefields.
@moulanakratos
@moulanakratos Ай бұрын
If that's what you got out of that then you need to seriously reflect on your mentality.
@JawadHaiderSyed
@JawadHaiderSyed Ай бұрын
@@moulanakratos I am obliged to break it to you that your own comment comes from a place of ignorance. And you are yourself responsible for that ignorance. Arguing with me won't help you either. The only solution for you is to get to the real source of all what they are discussing, read the classical books and get away from these internet clowns.
@PastPresentFuture-pr4pm
@PastPresentFuture-pr4pm 4 күн бұрын
My question is did Ali ( Radi') have great arrogance to put himself on the throne disregarding anyone else? Why ? C'mon, why insult Ali in such a way from the very group that honors him so much.
@shabbirpittalwala6453
@shabbirpittalwala6453 3 күн бұрын
The point that keeps repeating in this video is that Umar's opinion was confirmed in the Quran. Isn't it true that the Quran we read today was actually complied and edited by Umar himself long after the death of the prophet PBUH? Can't you just put your own opinions into it being the Khalifa of such a young religion?
@numnum3523
@numnum3523 Ай бұрын
What makes these arguments unbelievable is that people defend the Sahaba like they are the prophet. But why don’t you defend the prophet SAW. When soo many hadiths bring the prophet’s character to an all time low. Look through the Sunni hadiths. Hadiths that are absolutely despicable.
@borgs86
@borgs86 Ай бұрын
Please provide some of these hadiths
@numnum3523
@numnum3523 Ай бұрын
Bukhari 9:87:111 Muslim 26:5428 Muslim 30:5654 Bukhari 8:73:220 Bukhari 6:60:226; also Bukhari 6:60:1 and Bukhari 6:60:170 Bukhari 7:62:142 Bukhari 1:5:268 And there is soo many more hadiths that I can’t believe come out of peoples mouths. These Hadiths insult the prophets character SAW. He is the best creation of Allah. He is not suicidal bewitched or delusional. He doesn’t make mistakes. He is protected by Allah. Yet the Sunni school is busy defending the sahaba when the sahaba are making a mockery out of the Prophets character morals and conduct.
@wisedome3433
@wisedome3433 Ай бұрын
Shias believe their infallible Imams are equal in status with Prophet Muhammad saws, is this not an insult to the Prophet?
@numnum3523
@numnum3523 Ай бұрын
God has purified the Ahlulbayt his family how is that an insult that’s more like honouring him and his family ❤️by Allahs SWT will he purified them so the message of the prophet Mohummad is not tampered with. His true sunnah !
@numnum3523
@numnum3523 Ай бұрын
And no matter what no one is the same status as the prophet ASW
@mohammeds3114
@mohammeds3114 Ай бұрын
The Rafida might refute you with a "sahih" hadith by way of Ya'fur.
@Ismael2019pop
@Ismael2019pop Ай бұрын
He didn’t refute the points at all lol
@myinbox
@myinbox Ай бұрын
The preacher claim that, final Prophet's last will was not supposed to be written, so ALLAH stopped it through umar...
@ArfanHaider-bt9ez
@ArfanHaider-bt9ez Ай бұрын
We are free to believe what we want......make your own choice
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg Ай бұрын
The word used by Umer was ھذیان (means nonsense). Check this hadith in Arabic. Its translation is done in such a way that the blame does not goes and no one can point fingers to Umer. If you are really interested in knowing the early Islamic history without any bias then read these events chronologically 1. Ghadeer e Khumm 2. Expedition of Usama bin Zayd (just before death of prophet saw) 3. Hadith of pen and paper 4. Burial of the Prophet (Only 6 men were present) 5. Incident of Saqifa
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg Ай бұрын
The hadith of “pen and paper”, or the hadith al-qirtas, is also called the raziyya yawm al-khamis that translates to ‘The Calamity of Thursday’. •The authenticity of this event cannot be disputed, it is recorded in multiple sources including the Sahih al-Bukhari 5 times, Sahih al-Muslim 3 times Musnad Ahmad 1 time, Sunan al-Bayhaqi 1 time, Tabaqat Ibn Sa'd 8 times. "Come, let me write for you a statement after which you will not go astray." 'Umar said, ""Surly, this man is saying nonsense and you have the Qur'an; so the Book of Allah is enough for us." When they caused a hue and cry before the Prophet, Allah's Apostle said, "Go away!" Narrated 'Ubaidullah: Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was very unfortunate that Allah's Apostle was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise."
@jasminmalik3287
@jasminmalik3287 Ай бұрын
Sure, but how does any of that negate what the speaker is saying? As he mentioned in the lecture, the Prophet passes away THREE days later. He had three entire days to explore or re-explore the matter, yet didn't. This scenario was not evidence or the evidence you were looking for that Umar stopped Ali from being appointed the next calipha.
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg
@SyedRizvi-lz8kg Ай бұрын
@@jasminmalik3287 The Prophet (s) withdrew from writing his will because of what was said after his request, since his word would have no influence anymore but dispute after his demise. Thus, if the Prophet (s) wrote the mentioned will, about which still some would say that it was nonsense. Some sources write that prophet saww instead gave oral recommendations, which have been recorded differently by various authors. On a side note: If you are really interested in knowing the early Islamic history without any bias then read these events chronologically 1. Ghadeer e Khumm 2. Expedition of Usama bin Zayd (just before death of prophet saw) 3. Hadith of pen and paper 4. Burial of the Prophet (Only 6 men were present) 5. Incident of Saqifa
@alu177
@alu177 Ай бұрын
@@jasminmalik3287 Can you tell me, after this Thursday Calamity event, what did the prophet do or order before he passed away on Monday?
@AhmadFakih123
@AhmadFakih123 Ай бұрын
Guys the arguement isn’t about the message. The fact that Omar insulted our prophet by saying the our prophet is saying nonsense is the issue.
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
@@AhmadFakih123 except omar r.a. didnt say that the prophet s.m. was speaking nonsense this part in this comment is total bs and probably an addition inside of the shia sources and if any sunnis sources have it, its recognized as a fabrication
@Halaqa
@Halaqa Ай бұрын
If you want to drink from the hawd, be sunni.
@mhmadbedrddeen3414
@mhmadbedrddeen3414 Ай бұрын
the prophet said it multiple times, Ali is my successor but he knew that some of sahabah didn't want him and they will make a coup, he wanted to right it down to abide them by it and to test them one last time before he pass away, but Umar and his gang wouldn't accept that, "Umar had the permission to use his on judgment cause Imam Sayoti tell that" yet the the Quran says when the prophet decides on something the believers has no say who is your prophet Umar or Mihammad ? "Umar was right about the prisoners while the prophet was wrong" that sums it up
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
😂😂 back again with your mythical fairytales. Have some shame
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
since it wasnt a divine verdict at the time of decision but an educated guess based on consultation- Allah correcting the prophet s.m. after the event doesnt challenge his prophethood. prophet s.m. making error in his personal judgement is nothing alien to islam, it had happened before as well. rather its a proof that he was a humble prophet and not divine
@mhmadbedrddeen3414
@mhmadbedrddeen3414 Ай бұрын
​@@neko7981 the Quran says whatever the prophet says is wahi yet you are saying the prophet can do educated guess and he makes mistakes !! what kind of prophet is this ? the fact that you believe that the prophet can do mistakes shows how much wrong are you yet you will never say such things about a sahabi, Allah confirmed Umar and rejected the prophet that he himself sent as guidance, wasn't it better that he choose Umar to be the prohpet !! what kind of God is that astaghferullah, think muslims think
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
​@@mhmadbedrddeen3414 there is a literal sura of Allah calling out rasul s.a. for just being slightly annoyed as a blind man who later became a sahabi when he was giving dawah to more powerful meccans. he s.m. himself told the sahabis that they were generally more well versed in matters pertaining to duniya. even the battle of uhud is a brilliant proof- as he s.m. was himself aloof from participating the war directly and omar r.a. too was opposed to it- but he still participited cause 1- to motivate the ansar youth who wanted to partake in a battle along with the prophet s.m. and 2- cause he already wore his armor- a prophet cannot change decision midway. this was a case where they both recognized it was a bad decision but the circumstances forced it to be taken anyway. and besides- explain suran anfal 67. u either believe quran can have contradictions, or ur interpretation of the verse u provided doesnt prove ur point. throughout his s.m. life there r multiple events that show that there is a difference in the priority of his absolute verdicts , personal judgements, and opinions. the entirity of it makes up the sunnah- so u cannot downplay its distinction
@mhmadbedrddeen3414
@mhmadbedrddeen3414 Ай бұрын
@@neko7981 The issue is you bring verses without bringing other verses and Twist their meaning and end up insulting the prophet and even Allah Firstly, It's not the prophet who frowned to the blind man, how the greatest creation of Allah who Allah said about him that he has the best of manners and that he was sent to perfect manners frown to a poor blind believer, wallahi it's saddens the heart how you people think of the prophet, it's not the prophet who frowned to the blind man it was Uthman, again it's another example how you would do anything to degrade the people and uplift your leaders Secondly, the hadith that says that the prophet said to the sahabah that they know more than him in the matters of dunya is false it's fabricated, Allah himself says everything he says is wahi, Allah himself says when the prophet decide on something no one has the right to say otherwise, Allah himself says obey the prophet as you obey me, again it shows how your early leaders fabricated such believes so they can change in the religion and do mistakes and then say it's okay the prophet said we know better and the prophet used to mistakes Thirdly, regrading Al-Anfal 67 Again another example of misinterpretation, the verse says (It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre [upon Allāh's enemies] in the land. You [i.e., some Muslims] desire the commodities of this world,1 but Allāh desires [for you] the Hereafter. And Allāh is Exalted in Might and Wise.) It's clearly shows that it's not speaking directly to the prophet but to the muslims who desire the commodities of this world not the hereafter, are you suggesting that the prophet was seeking worldly commodities!!!! See how by your understanding you insult the prophet, it's you who is saying that the Quran is in contradiction by that because many other verses speak of the high status of the prophet and yet here you won't me to say as you misunderstood that the prophet was running after worldly commodities !!! The story of the verse is that some muslims at the battle of badr started taking prisoner instead of killing without the prophet's approval, not as your fabricated hadith say as this again prove the point that you have no problem insulting the prophet and uplifting your leaders by saying Umar was right and the prophet was wrong to the extent that your books says that the prophet said if Allah sent punishment for this no one will be safe except Umar and Saad, Allahu Akbar even the prophet wouldn't be safe, what kind of a prophet is that If your interpretation is true why then the prophet didn't kill the prisoner after the verse was revealed, let's assume that he was wrong first for taking prisoners why after it was revealed he didn't kill them, a prophet insisting on his false position even after Allah warned him !! See how ridiculous your interpretation is, just think man think
@NoorAhmed-kn6sp
@NoorAhmed-kn6sp Ай бұрын
Equally it could have been the case that Prophet(saws) would have said that Abu Bakr would be his first successor and so on. It could have been anything. Why Shia people have difficulty accepting the Qadr. Didn't Prophet(saws) wished his uncle to become muslim but that didn't happen. Whatever happened and whoever succeeded the Prophet (saws) all Muslims if they truly believe in divine decree then must accept all of them even if they are very distasteful to them.
@MohamedBharwani
@MohamedBharwani Ай бұрын
I agree it could have been anything. The problem is that Umar refused the Prophet from writing this down, which is why we will never know. Is Umars ijtihad and judgement than the Prophet who received revelation?
@pious10
@pious10 Ай бұрын
Wow I’ve seen some desperate claims to try and paint Umar in a good light but this was something else! Haha - whatever Umar said it became an ayah of the Quran?!?! Haha wow. And in that entire video you didn’t address the Calamity of Thursday which was what Sayed Ammar discussed in an hour lecture. You stick with Umar and I’ll stick with Imam Ali 😂
@dontwatchmee
@dontwatchmee Ай бұрын
Syeddina Ali is with Syeddina Umar. You are lost.
@altamashbaibars9477
@altamashbaibars9477 Ай бұрын
Refreshing approach by shaikh but it's a pity no sufi tariqa has Umar ra in their top of the chain. Sufis and ummah have missed out on this. He was a genius and in his opinion revelations were revealed. Pity
@abumusashuayb
@abumusashuayb Ай бұрын
If there was a Prophet (saww) after me it would've been Omar? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 If that was the case why wasn't Omar the first caliph? Ask yourself that one main question? I dont consider myself neither a Shia nor a Sunni. I am a Muslim but when I see some ridiculous statements I have to call it out. Stop spreading fitna with your trash narrative, and instead try to unite this most blessed Ummah!
@ashfaquei.k.426
@ashfaquei.k.426 Ай бұрын
From Ibn ‘Umar (رضي الله عنه) who said: “Whilst we were praying with the Messenger of Allāh (ﷺ) a man from amongst people recited; اللَّهُ أَكْبَرُ كَبِيرًا وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ كَثِيرًا وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ بُكْرَةً وَأَصِيلاً Allahu Akbaru kabeera, wal-hamdu Lillahi katheera, wa Subhan-Allahi bukratan was asila(Allah is Great, the Greatest, and praise belongs to Allāh in abundance, and glorified be Allāh at the beginning and end of the day), So the Messenger of Allāh (ﷺ) asked (after prayer): “Who said such and such?!!” The man replied: “I did O Messenger of Allāh.” So the Messenger of Allāh (ﷺ) said: “I was amazed by it, for it opened the gates of heaven.”
@AKIB1991LASKAR
@AKIB1991LASKAR Ай бұрын
I dont understand this Shia beleifs.....while Ali RA himself didn't have any issue whatsoever for Abu Bakr RA and Umar RA being caliphs before him....contrary to that Ali RA married Umar RA daughter later in life. Whats wrong with Shias....they hate unnecessarily we love Ali RA and ahlulbayt but we dont discriminate all of the wives of Prophet is Ahlul bayt.
@masteronmace
@masteronmace Ай бұрын
Imam Ali absolutely had an issue. He literally tells them in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim that he believes they are liars and frauds
@AKIB1991LASKAR
@AKIB1991LASKAR Ай бұрын
@@masteronmace Where is your proof....??? Quote me from Bukhari...!! All your Shia hadiths are concocted in kufa,Iraq...it's a political ideology...all of those hadiths are fabricated or shaped in a way to support your political ideology. There was no Shia or Sunni during Ali RAs lifetime...your false narrators created their own political ideology to rule the muslim land's thats the truth.
@wisedome3433
@wisedome3433 Ай бұрын
HAZRAT Ali had great respect for hazraat Umar and hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique, read nahjul balagha.
@masteronmace
@masteronmace Ай бұрын
@@wisedome3433 Nahjul Balagha is a mix of bakri Hadiths and Shia Hadiths, we don’t use that as a main source instead rely on what Quran and Tafsir from Ahlulbayt says. Also, Mola Ali in Sunni books called Abu Bakr and Umar liars and frauds lol
@wisedome3433
@wisedome3433 Ай бұрын
@@masteronmace In Usul e Kaafi and Majlisi's Hayat ul Quloob also both hazrat Umar and hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique are praised and their greatness is described
@JahangirAlom-yo7sg
@JahangirAlom-yo7sg Ай бұрын
Shia also claim that some of the sahabas run away from some of the war that was fought along side our prophet pbuh
@rabyaahmed2817
@rabyaahmed2817 Ай бұрын
Correct....
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
The rawafidh claim alot of things. Can never provide proof or evidences. Just made up stories
@muhammadmustafa6467
@muhammadmustafa6467 Ай бұрын
I would’ve agreed with this statement but i simply cant because its not just this point There have been many other times where umar interjected where he clearly shouldn’t have. Youre essentially trying to say that he knows more than the prophet which no one as a muslim should ever believe and if he does than there goes his emaan
@mokhosh
@mokhosh Ай бұрын
the prophet had already chosen Ali on the day of Qadeer as his successor
@Holistic_Islam
@Holistic_Islam Ай бұрын
Already refuted by the Ulama.
@mokhosh
@mokhosh Ай бұрын
@@Holistic_Islam ye they've tried to cover the sun for centuries, but it's shining and obvious to those who have healthy and open eyes
@Holistic_Islam
@Holistic_Islam Ай бұрын
@@mokhosh The Shia Rafidah Mushrikeen are surrounded by darkness, not the light of the sun. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@mokhosh
@mokhosh Ай бұрын
@@Holistic_Islam oh please don't burst my bubble with so much reasoning and so many arguments 😄
@straightup8302
@straightup8302 6 күн бұрын
@@mokhosh that's shia definition, bro. I would suggest you to read the incident in it's full context. It's not about giving sayyidna Ali the matter of leadership but to defend him and show his status, just as the prophet (SAW) said concerning sayyidna Umar that "there was to have a Prophet after me, it would have been 'Umar bin Al-Khattab." But we don't take this litterary and start treating sayyidna Umar like a prophet. So, try to see the whole picture, bro
@farzanak8107
@farzanak8107 Ай бұрын
Whether umar did it or not, Ali (AS) was the first declared khalifa of prophet muhammad SAW thanks to many explicit & unrefutable proofs from sunni literatures. :) Here is 1 sample: Prophet muhammad SAW said directly to Ali AS before going for battle of tabuk: "You are 'MY KHALIFA' over every believer after me." Non Shiite Sources: Kitab Al Sunnah by ibn abi asim. Sheikh Albani & others declared it authentic. Al Mustadrak Al Hakim, Imam Hakim & Dhahbhi both declared it authentic. Sunan Nasai Al Kubra, this hadith has the same authentic chain as above.
@AnwarHossain-ej4md
@AnwarHossain-ej4md Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@AnwarHossain-ej4md
@AnwarHossain-ej4md Ай бұрын
How can someone be a khalifa of a nabi specially Muhammadur rasuluallah??
@tazboy1934
@tazboy1934 Ай бұрын
Ammar naqhwani is popular shia on KZbin
@rabyaahmed2817
@rabyaahmed2817 Ай бұрын
Knowledgeable, don't need to be popular....need to be authentic and transparent...
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
@@rabyaahmed2817 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@kashanbennett8771
@kashanbennett8771 Ай бұрын
Totally agree!! I do have a question why was Ali (ra) cursed on the pulpit for many years. We Sunni do speak of the other the merits of the other companions but not many if Ali(ra) . Most Sunni don’t know much of The house of the prophet or Ali , in Sunni books not Shia writings
@rabyaahmed2817
@rabyaahmed2817 Ай бұрын
Your ignorance is just astonishing
@kashanbennett8771
@kashanbennett8771 Ай бұрын
@@rabyaahmed2817 insulting someone and not stating a point is the new stupidity. I will not stoop myself as a grown man who has actually went to a Islamic university to argue with such an ignorant statement. I love how you stated nothing but called me ignorant.
@kashanbennett8771
@kashanbennett8771 Ай бұрын
@@rabyaahmed2817 by the way how much do you know about what our scholars have said about Ali(ra) and the house hold of the prophet (Saw)you would be surprised on how he wasn’t so loved as we say we do.
@shpendfeka1755
@shpendfeka1755 Ай бұрын
Yes it is true that among others Umar r.a prevented Ali for becoming first Khalifa. Besides Ali r.a. even didn't won't that position. But how it is that you as a believers don't understand that it was by Allah's s.v.t.a. decree and they were merely just sebabs. And that these events are also sebab for this enmity between so called Shias and so called Sunnis as a test. Why you don't preocupie with personal self instead ? Let the sahaba, it is not your business. I am a sunni, maturidi, hanefi and I consider my muslim brothers all shias. Their doctrine and practices are not my concern. It is between them and the Lord. We are all related.
@shaykhanonymous
@shaykhanonymous Ай бұрын
SHAYTAAN (IBLEES) RAN AWAY FROM UMAR (R.A) WHEN HE WAS ALIVE. TODAY THE HUMAN SHAYATEEN aka SHIA RUN WHEN THEY HEAR HIS NAME. MAY OUR LIVES AND FAMILY BE SACRIFICED FOR YOU O AMEERUL MUMINEEN 🤲🏼💙
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Ibn Sa’ad: Narrated to us Ishaq bin Yusuf, from Muhammad bin Abdallah and Houdha bin Khalifa, who said: Narrated to us Ibn Awn, from Muhammad bin Sireen, who said: Umar ibn Khataab said: There did not remain a thing in me from the practises of jahiliyya (era of ignorance), except that I don't care whom of the people I have penetrated (Nakh) or who of them have penetrated (Nakh) me. [Tabaqat Al Kubra. Vol. 3, Pg. # 269 H. 3714.]
@MoeedKhan1979
@MoeedKhan1979 Ай бұрын
many many ayah and ahadees are proof of umar r۔a high status in islam۔ 2nd khalifa no doubt❤❤❤
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Ibn Sa’ad: Narrated to us Ishaq bin Yusuf, from Muhammad bin Abdallah and Houdha bin Khalifa, who said: Narrated to us Ibn Awn, from Muhammad bin Sireen, who said: Umar ibn Khataab said: There did not remain a thing in me from the practises of jahiliyya (era of ignorance), except that I don't care whom of the people I have penetrated (Nakh) or who of them have penetrated (Nakh) me. [Tabaqat Al Kubra. Vol. 3, Pg. # 269 H. 3714.]
@kkassam
@kkassam Ай бұрын
The incident of the paper is not an example of revelation confirming Umar, it is an example of Umar contradicting and disobeying the Prophet ﷺ. You change the topic to discuss umpteen different issues in this short clip, but not that!
@aminububa851
@aminububa851 10 сағат бұрын
@@kkassam You think it is disobedience?
@OwaisKhan-wy8dv
@OwaisKhan-wy8dv Ай бұрын
Please stop raising the sayyiduna umar to such a high level. The naration the brother mentoned about the wives of the prophet gathering and umar RA sayying عسى ربه إن طلّقكن and the same aya later beng reveled in the Quran, was this why surah tahreem was revealed. What about the story of the honey. The aya doesn't have anything to do with what he is refering to. Also just the idea that sayyiduna umar's exact words ended up becoming quran, what does that say about Quran's challenge of coming up with an aya like the quran. Had such narrations been reported about sayyiduna Ali people would have been quick to ask these questions.
@SafinaSociety
@SafinaSociety Ай бұрын
1) it is just that verse not the whole sura 2) the challenge is for those trying mimic the Quran. Umar was not trying to do that.
@imranabbas854
@imranabbas854 Ай бұрын
All those who are seeking the truth should be honest with themselves and watch the claims made by Nakshwani and do their research. The response here is just a weak defense
@HK-zu8cf
@HK-zu8cf Ай бұрын
It’s sad these convos are for the world to see sometimes by responding it’s gives them more clout These people r rejecting history Leave them to it
@yaqob3275
@yaqob3275 Ай бұрын
Stupid time to do this when Shias are helping Palestine, whilst you guys doing nothing like me.
@muhammadsaad3513
@muhammadsaad3513 Ай бұрын
وہ عمر جس کے اعداء پہ شیدا سقر اس خدا دوست حضرت پہ لاکھوں سلام فارقِ حق و باطل امام الھدیٰ تیغِ مسلول شدّت پہ لاکھوں سلام (رضی اللہ عنہ)
@LadooCrew
@LadooCrew Ай бұрын
In under 8 minutes shiaism debunked notice the shias will say weak arguements but do they have counter replies no just same old copied and pasted rhetoric from one website to another. Yet there own shia imams never spoke of this pen and paper incident there orimary sources dont even have a shia isnad for this report. !
@mohammedsahor
@mohammedsahor Ай бұрын
Say, Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds. ~ Qur’an 6:162
@theamirbarismillworks2253
@theamirbarismillworks2253 Ай бұрын
Nasibi shaking! Sunnism finished!
@GatekeeperOfTruth
@GatekeeperOfTruth Ай бұрын
Correct yourself please. Bakriism*
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 6 күн бұрын
If the prophet asked me to do something i would do it blindly and without disrespect.
@evervid9251
@evervid9251 Ай бұрын
So logical...! You guys lost your wisdom.
@mughal_r9374
@mughal_r9374 Ай бұрын
This ammar donny always coming up with some next fairytales and myths.
@ertugrulbae46
@ertugrulbae46 Ай бұрын
Rawafidh munafiq: "Umar was a bad guy" Sunni: "why did Imam Ali A.S name 2 of his sons after him" Shia: "well..erm..it was a common name!" Sunni: "irrelevant. The name is associated to the most prominent figure which is Umar Ibn Khattab R.A. Yazid was also a very common name. Several martyrs of karbala had the name or kunya mentioning fathers name which was Yazid. Which one of you Shia are gonna call yourself Yazid?" Shia: "😨....sorry my mums calling me. Gtg bye" *whips himself in private*
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 6 күн бұрын
Makes no sense that a leader, kjng, or a politician, or a CEO would die without appointing a commander in chief after him. Makes no sense to me. Let alone the final messenger of God pbuh. Also why did Fatima die angry w Umar??
@Saa42808
@Saa42808 Ай бұрын
I don't believe Shia doubt about the sincerity of the people who were trained by none but Prophet Mohammad PBUH himself. How could this be? This is impossible, I mean sheer impossible.
@neko7981
@neko7981 Ай бұрын
ppl have a hard time to let go of their ego when they have deified and demonized sm1
@1210saad
@1210saad Ай бұрын
Faruq e azam
@kano5
@kano5 Ай бұрын
😂 OMG. So Umar says something then God affirms it later?? Wallahi if we Shias said something like that about Imam Ali (as), we would be called kaffirs based on that alone. I guess when it comes to Umar everything is possible🤷🏻‍♂️
@iishia6331
@iishia6331 Ай бұрын
Totally skullduggery
@numnum3523
@numnum3523 Ай бұрын
Bukhari 9:87:111 Muslim 26:5428 Muslim 30:5654 Bukhari 8:73:220 Bukhari 6:60:226; also Bukhari 6:60:1 and Bukhari 6:60:170 Bukhari 7:62:142 Bukhari 1:5:268 And there is soo many more hadiths that I can’t believe come out of peoples mouths. These Hadiths insult the prophets character SAW. He is the best creation of Allah. He is not suicidal bewitched or delusional. He doesn’t make mistakes. He is protected by Allah. Yet the Sunni school is busy defending the sahaba when the sahaba are making a mockery out of the Prophets character morals and conduct.
@aqsaad.ismail
@aqsaad.ismail 9 күн бұрын
"Umar bin Khatab had permission (to even deny the Prophet's request)". Hallelujah 😂
@naveedwahib6380
@naveedwahib6380 9 күн бұрын
So thr battle of badr example, Umar's decision was correct but the Peophet made a mistake? So the prophet can make mistake but Umar can not? I am confused
@ayyubvernon1557
@ayyubvernon1557 Ай бұрын
May Allah continue to elevate the Farouq!!
@DanMonez-sr8pb
@DanMonez-sr8pb Ай бұрын
Elevate where to! Be precise...
@altamashbaibars9477
@altamashbaibars9477 Ай бұрын
Sufis in the last 50 years have neglected Umar ra in zikr and his defence against rafidis. They need to pull up it's socks
@disenchantedwanderer9033
@disenchantedwanderer9033 Ай бұрын
Tirmithi reported from Abi Sa’id al Khudri, He said that RasoolAllah (saw) said: “My two ministers (Wazirs) from the heavens are Jibreel and Mika’il and on the earth are Abu Bakr and ‘Umar.”
@sweetsour4823
@sweetsour4823 Ай бұрын
There is a whole series. Don’t just spend 7 minutes on just umar. Cop out .” Refute” all if you can. At least you used the guy’ name, many of these videos avoided them all together in fear of giving him any views.
@HN-Anonymous
@HN-Anonymous Ай бұрын
As much as the Shia in this comment try to defend their Shia preacher, he can’t defend himself, Muhammad Hijab offered to debate him and he didn’t respond.
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