Sagging ceiling tile cause and fix Excitingly Dangerous

[@sgtmaj2705]

In the south we have a lot of unvented propane heaters. I have noticed over the years that the moisture the propane emits eventually is absorbed into the tile causing the tiles to fail due to the added weight especially during harsh winters due to more heat usage. A lot of people put thin wide strips on the seams and screw them in.

[@PittsburghPat]

Ingenious. Thank you for sharing that.

[@abdurrouf2983]

Thank u , I was suffering last 3 month.,…u show the way. Appreciate

[@PittsburghPat]

I'm happy to help! Thank you for subscribing to my channel!

[@abdurrouf2983]

you welcome man 🙂👍

[@PittsburghPat]

@@abdurrouf2983 you're so cool 😎

[@abdurrouf2983]

Thank you 🙂

[@truckerjohn1957]

I have some saging tiles, I think from the blown in insulation on top of them. What a mess if I had to replace some.

[@PittsburghPat]

@truckerjohn1957 yes. the insulation might be stuck to the tiles!

[@AK-jx9qg]

I think adding a wide washer with screw will help and you can cover up the washer with paint.

[@PittsburghPat]

Excellent suggestion!

[@MissMolly3377]

That is what my brpther did and it worked awesome. The other side of my ceiling has fallen down because I couldn't get to the hardware store to get screws and washers, so I am going to put them back up with the screws and washers and then put some sort of treatment ovee it. I actually found a corrugated cardbpard celing video that ended up beautiful. I don't know what I will do, yet, but I will have to cover it with something.

[@tammygregg7073]

Where did you find the ceiling tile? I have to replace some and can't find them..

[@PittsburghPat]

home depot

[@frannypalmer2726]

I found some at Lowe's just a few days ago. Home Depot didn't have them.

[@pamelavizina1092]

Excellent tip using drywall screws.

[@PittsburghPat]

thanks. they worked for me. still holding

[@KathrynThrush]

Can I use staples instead of screws?

[@PittsburghPat]

Many people do

[@scottvolkmann2387]

I have a tile ceiling that needs to be painted, but alot of the tiles are sagging or needs replaceing. I found that if you use a fender washer and a dry wall screww these two really hold up the tile. If you are not going to paint it, paint the washers as close to the ceiling color as you can.

[@PittsburghPat]

That is a great tip. Using a washer spreads the load. Thank you for your insightful comment.

[@johndavid4825]

Where did you purchase your ceiling tiles? Do you know the manufacturer or brand name? I have a couple I need to replace and have no idea where to get them.

[@PittsburghPat]

HOME depot

[@frannypalmer2726]

Armstrong at Lowe's.

[@forman357]

How do you find where to screw it in?

[@PittsburghPat]

Take the tile down to see what is behind it first.

[@flowerfriend]

Is there an ideal spot to add a hook with these tiles? I have these in my home and all the other ceiling tiles I’ve encountered, you can lift them up and reposition them. I’m lost with these tiles.

[@PittsburghPat]

Not really. If you're hanging something light like a party streamer then anywhere would work. I wouldn't hang a plant or a light fixture. However, usually there is a wooden framework above the tiles. If you can locate one of those with a stud finder or by probing, that would be a better location which could handle more weight.

[@timoneil8458]

If you fix it with a screw with a washer will painting it look finished?

[@PittsburghPat]

Thats a great idea!

[@michaelmadsen8639]

How do you "hide the screw head," ie, make it the ceiling color once screw is driven in?

[@PittsburghPat]

So, I used white paint, but caulk or even toothpaste will work!

[@michaelmadsen8639]

@@PittsburghPat very thanks

[@PittsburghPat]

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[@Z-Ack]

So the drywall behind the tiles was shot. Cant screw to somthibg that isbt there..

[@PittsburghPat]

Good point. What did you end up doing?

[@dJ.kNiGhT23]

That's exactly what I've done put drywall screws and it hold well it doesn't look bad

[@PittsburghPat]

Great minds think alike! Jk. I used what I had around the house, being of modest means.

[@PittsburghPat]

Also, a dab of paint or caulk covers the screw heads, so I can't see them.

[@dJ.kNiGhT23]

@@PittsburghPat me too u used what I had around the house

[@dJ.kNiGhT23]

@@PittsburghPat cool. thanks!

[@priscillarodriguez9176]

Thanks for your help. Any feed back on either redoing the whole ceiling or putting tiles over the existing ones?

[@PittsburghPat]

I've never tried either approach. Let me know what you decide and how it turns out.

[@priscillarodriguez9176]

@@PittsburghPat I'm not too bold to do it on my own. I will consult the pros and let you know.

[@PittsburghPat]

@@priscillarodriguez9176 Sounds good.

[@YoYoMazcousin]

Is that asbestos tile?

[@PittsburghPat]

no they are similar to these amzn.to/3ywNyPI

[@YoYoMazcousin]

@@PittsburghPat oh, okay. Thank you!

[@michaelmansun6203]

I had my new ceilng installed just a few years ago and it is already sagging in one area. I will not screw it in. I will take it all out if I have to and redo it.

[@PittsburghPat]

I admire your energy. Let us know how it goes.

[@michaelmansun6203]

​@@PittsburghPat I will

[@stephsjamn]

Hate these tiles also! So thin and are breaking apart where I need to staple them will not hold. Armstrong ceiling tiles. Possible defective or say rotted from being stored on the shelf at the store? Redid my whole kitchen ceiling 3/4 of them came down within about 9 months. Any other suggestions not using these tiles that would attach to small beams across the ceiling? I paid a contractor to do this unfortunately he passed away and I do not want to pay out much again. An old home and will only be there for another 2-3 not looking for perfection.

[@donaldkasper8346]

Maybe back the ceiling tiles with thin veneer wood, glue with silicone. Then you are screwing up through the veneer. 1/8 in sheets of veneer at Home Depot, etc.

[@stephsjamn]

@@donaldkasper8346 thanks for the feedback. Yes I spoke to someone at Home Depot who suggested such. Wanted to do this in first place and was talked out of it. Live and learn!

[@donaldkasper8346]

@@stephsjamn Get carpet knife, a folding x-acto blade on a large scale, and metal level bar to cut the veneer on old piece of 2x4.

[@terencemerritt]

Why would you not staple/screw on the flat edge that will be hidden instead of doing it right thru the face? I mean it kind of looks like a hack job and more work involved to paint and hide the screw when you could just do it right the first time

[@PittsburghPat]

Excellent suggestion! I believe in this instance the stud was where I place the screw, and I wished to have a solid anchor for the tile. But certainly, your idea is great if the circumstances line up correctly.

[@jodijarvis1018]

Roofing nails work too.

[@PittsburghPat]

Good tip

[@jedidias7091]

Asbesto tiles?

[@PittsburghPat]

Nope. www.homedepot.com/p/Genesis-2-ft-x-4-ft-Smooth-Pro-Lay-In-Ceiling-Tile-745-00/202795772

[@constructionencounters]

Good job

[@PittsburghPat]

Thank you

[@chonrodriguezjr8510]

What about gorilla glue?

[@PittsburghPat]

That could work, but might be messy if you ever had to replace one.

[@freddiearmstrong121]

Please wear a mask....Breathing that dust can't be good. I have a feeling my sagging problem is exactly what I am seeing here. Great videos and subscribed!! Peace

[@PittsburghPat]

You are so right about the mask! The amount of dust was unexpectedly large.

[@freddiearmstrong121]

@@PittsburghPat Your channel is very helpful...Glad I subscribed. Not to mention you saved me a crap load of money. I had no clue I could do this myself. Thanks bro!!!

[@PittsburghPat]

Thanks for your kind words. I too thought this would cost a lot of money. And it would have, if I had hired someone to do it. Your comment encourages me to make more videos. Thanks again!

[@freddiearmstrong121]

@@PittsburghPat You are very welcome and DO make more videos!! You explain it without rambling on and on and no annoying background music!! Lol.... Peace brother

[@sleeve8651]

These tile are a pain in the Ass ! IMHO ! IMPORTANT TIP ! : DO NOT WAIT TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM ! This is not one of those, " I'll get to it later " ! Don't ask how I know ! 🥴 My biggest problem is not having strips to attach all of the tile to ! As they are were supported by wedging the edges together, which had metal hooks of sorts, holding the eddges ! I think I'm going to install additional wooden strips to attach the unsupported tile, and call it a day ! Like I said, "A pain in the Ass"! ☝️🤨