Sail Life - New diesel tank - DIY sailboat project

[@predator1739]

You have a smart mind, flexible hands, a mouth that can speak well, and pay attention to you! Looking forward to more and better works, come on!

[@Anne6621]

finally watching a DIY worth watching , with so many people using terms like , Mint Condition , or Fully Restored and when their definition of mint condition means recently washed , or fully restored is no more than a hack coat of paint this young man is so refreshing to watch , proof that all one needs is logic and common sense , and those are rare today , so IMO , this youtube channel is Pretty Dang Spiffy !!!!! a term i use all the time and when i first heard him say that i started to laugh lol ,

[@mitfreundlichengrussen1234]

Feels good to watch a man of reason in these times - even when he drills a hole in the near-perfect hull.

[@MikeDisbury]

Karl Gohlke I watched that and almost cried 😂

[@brianluck84]

When you scream wtf are you doing at the screen! Such a cringe moment

[@DVolvoguy777-x7o]

Water temp and depth sensor goes in that hole. Plans.

[@mattevans-koch9353]

Mads, your idea for the brackets and wood toe rail will really set Athena apart from others and add some bling for her to show off with. When you make the brackets make some of them with pipe connectors so you can screw in stainless pipe for life lines. Thank you for the video and take care, stay safe and stay well. My best to Ava and Jurkill.

[@colinj.m.dykstra7]

Hey mads, I'm running twin victrons on my boat. Like you, I'm a 100% electric boat for cooking. What's really cool about the victrons is that they can power boost your genset. So, if you're running the genny while cooking and the demand exceeds the generators capacity, the inverters will boost the output with stored power in the battery bank. Works REALLY well!

[@thesurrealtaco8097]

Just binged watched your entire series. Thank you for sharing your story with us.

[@davidbroman8391]

I like the idea of the 2 stainless poles. It would give nice symmetry and an extra hand hold for safety. If you kerf and round the corner(s) of the island it would really match the head and settee and prevent banging into a sharp edge. Awesome video!

[@thomaschilcott]

Aluminium toe rail profiles hold water; it's a persistent problem because the drain holes are spaced apart and not flush with the deck surface. Standing seawater immediately adjacent to a through-bolted aluminium toe rail is a recipe for water ingress issues down the line, no matter how good the installation job is. Your proposed bulwark solution will definitely solve that issue, and you get the added benefit of choosing the bulwark depth for security and aesthetics (a slightly taller-than-usual bulwark will hide some of the coachroof volume, which can make a boat look more sleek). It's a win-win! Also, another vote here for rounding the galley island edges off, following the same radius you used for the head's bulkhead; that would look super spiffy!

[@davidlane1137]

"Hiding here, under the tub of shame" - love it.

[@58Geargrinder]

I also love the idea of rounding the corner of the island to allow more space into the dinette area! I would even consider rounding the opposing corner the galley side. More room+aesthetically interesting=√

[@benters3509]

My guess is that there is someone out there that has a 204, and will offer it to you, even if you have to re-furbish it. The power of the inter-web. With a successful channel like yours, it is amazing how many very helpful people there are out there.

[@ekavoian]

I am in awe how you plan and apply your work. It is a pleasure to watch your videos

[@SailLife]

Thank you so much!

[@brianluck84]

Can't wait to see the wooden toe rail. Should give Athena a nice classic look

[@MarkLawrenceKiefer]

Mads, you can run hose out of the top of the diesel tank back to the top of the other tank for venting. You won't need a big one and if you are worried about siphoning remember to have it at the top of the tank and to put a loop in it inside the island (you could do it at the aft end of the island) before you run it back. Then you will never pressurize the tank of pull a vacuum on it.

[@peterengel7885]

Excellent idea Mark.

[@floridasaltlife]

Your weekly content is great, good call on the genny, maximize the silent non fuel options and upgrade the engine later for best of both worlds. I am here till you all are sailing and beyond. Doug in USA

[@nodirectionhome308]

I love how the number of views on your episodes represents a huge number of your subscribers. It means that most of the people who subscribe to you, watch every week. I've seen people with 10x your subs but are doing good to get a few thousand views. In short it means your content is excellent, and reliably excellent. Great job Mads! Keep it up.

[@Digimer]

I know you were being careful, but seeing the saw running over the new plastic tank made me wince. Lol! Have a great week!

[@basiaboy]

Mads, I’d highly recommend padding between the fuel tank and steel frame. I’ve seen it most often done with “retired” conveyor belt strips or similar thick rubber (or leather). Heeling, hobby horsing, etc. will create great friction between the plastic tank and steel and eventually a hole will present itself flooding the bilge/ocean with diesel. I’ve seen KZbinrs making these repairs after a leak, Sailing with the Wynns, I think Atticus and perhaps a couple more that I cannot remember at the moment. Salt and Tar has done this on their previous and new build they are working on currently (probably a video in the last 8weeks) if your tank is not baffled it only increases said friction issue. Just my .02. If not make sure you are inspecting regularly and have purchased a spare tank in case they quit making this size.... Dan, Houston Texas 🇺🇸 stay well!

[@Garryck-1]

Upvote this to be sure Mads gets to see it. This is an important point.

[@nik-lc3ob]

Also allow for 3% expansion of the tank in all directions after first fill...

[@zanderbrody1847]

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[@samlondon7281]

@Zander Brody instablaster =)

[@zanderbrody1847]

@Sam London thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now. Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

[@pezpengy9308]

the corner of the island where you want the extra room is right across from your artfully curved head wall. match the curve on the island and you get an ouchless bonky corner that stylishly matches the wall, and save a few inches as well. :)

[@dthelmcken420]

right on Pez. I would look spiffy __/))

[@edwardteach2625]

I'm just another sailing enthusiast who loves watching your videos every Sunday. Thank you for sharing- I've learned so very much and enjoy following the progress as you labor toward your dream with the special lady and trusty canine by your side. Bravo!

[@denniscollins2032]

Very good show Mads. I don't know if anyone else has noticed the excellent video and the audio is superb and music turned off when content is being presented, so the viewer is not distracted from Mads skull busting latest brain storming for his boat!

[@gac914]

"If I'm not afraid of doing a little bit of tinkering. . . ." REALLY, Mads??? I think you got that one covered, for sure!! LOL!!

[@denisemckinlay4783]

When venting a tank don't forget head pressure, If you were to over fill the tank, the head pressure on the tank is increased by the vertical height of the liquid in the vent. It pays to keep the vent height as low as possible for safety.

[@rexstout8177]

Not checked in this project for a long time. Glad to see you're closer to finishing. Wishing you the best. Keep going mate.

[@SteelDoesMyWill]

On the island corner where you need more room, maybe match the curve that you used on the bulkhead for the Head just behind it. I think those opposing radii would look great and it almost a natural flow to say 'this way' into the Settee.

[@hardastern5447]

That's what I thought too. This would give those precious centimeters Mads is looking for.

[@belledetector]

I agree. If it is possible at all. - As the the tank mount is defining the inner space of the rectangle. Adding curvature may increase the overall footprint of the kitchen island...

[@jcf6597]

I like running the diesel tank vent line through another stainless rail through the cabin top. I've been told you can never have to many hand holds on a blue water passage making sail boat. I also like your idea for the new toe rail, I think that will look nice.

[@ernstmatheus5571]

Hi Mads, I just wanted to comment on your toe rail idea. Having sailed my whole life, and owned several larger sailboats - with and without toe rail - I would suggest for you to give it a bit more thought. I know that the price is high, but there is nothing more convenient than a toe rail. Specifically if you want to extensively cruise, the convenience of a rail on both sides of your boat that you can attach things to is invaluable. preventers, bumpers, dinghy..... Also, thank you for the wonderful videos, we are looking forward to it every week! Ernst and Melinda

[@richhamel6810]

I think clipping the corner going to the setee area might make be ok to gain you some pass through space. Athena is looking sweeter by the day. Nice job Mads.

[@svamandolin3546]

Perfect can be the enemy of good. Or in this case, Perfect is the enemy of actually sailing. :) I reference your channel often so do appreciate.

[@JoelWelter]

Blissfully cutting a hole in his hull, without comment or concern. Balls of steel I say. Fight me over this.

[@briansaben5697]

Was holding my breath watching you use your spiffy new tank as a work bench. Might have inadvertently solved your venting problem.

[@tiborkiss9186]

... one more thing: fully just to support you, one advice: try to drill as few wholes to the hull as possible. Through-hull tansducers are known to fail badly under rough sea and can easily sunk a boat. You can pick up an in-hull transducer - it works just as fine.

[@sonnybrooks264]

I agree with one of the comments that covered putting a rubber, or some other material, that would keep the Tank frame from rubbing a hole in the plastic tank. It will certainly do that👍

[@philgray1023]

You've moved on quite a bit this week. I moved my wheelbarrow from leaning on the fence to leaning on the shed. Oh, and I polished my binoculars too. So pretty busy here.

[@craigheikewilson6412]

Feeding the welding gear through future transducer hole, smart thinking!

[@densamme1752]

I like the idea of another pole, another handhole isn't bad in bad weather 😉. In a diesel tank the airport is mainly for pressure equalisation, but if you want to future prof your design I would add a second line so you can draw out fuel gases from the tanks if you convert to alcohol or bensin/petrol for some reason in the future or convert the space to a battery bank.

[@helenforeman5219]

Another option for fuel fill could be to put a deck fill on the coach roof , connect it to the tank by installing a Stainless pipe vertically down to the fuel tank to pipe the fuel direct to the tank. . This would also be another handy hand hold if braced well.

[@latitudeash]

Put some led lights on the top of the tank. Have the plastics exposed so lights up through the oilfield and lights up the floor area. That way you also get a smaller center island. Will look fantastic as you will see how low the dual is also.

[@philiphewittii2605]

Round off the corner of the island to give you that extra space.

[@juebol]

... and stick with your design.

[@HolmesCory]

I was thinking clipping the corner would be better.

[@peterengel7885]

The first time you bump into a square corner you will say why didn't I make them rounded. The next reason more room to pass by. It will also look spiffy.

[@aserta]

I don't think he can..can he? I mean, the tank is just there, what little would be to gain, wouldn't be worth it. Besides, this is a boat, so things are expected to have some tight fitting areas, they're both young so i doubt it would be huge hassle. Consider also, that on a boat, especially one of the size of Athena, at large, you do get some sway, so open spaces aren't your friend. I mean, some years ago, i helped a friend move a naked boat and had to go below, i suppose a wave was struck just the wrong way that i lost balance and had nothing to grab on, falling on my ass. So tight spaces .. not so bad under those circumstances.

[@robertp7209]

Need to wear knee pads in the cabin 😁.

[@evangatehouse5650]

Plastic tanks will swell with fuel. Thin rubber shim in between frame and tank. Re the toerail: the work in fairing a joint + wood toerail will be MORE than a foam / glass toerail. The pultruded fibreglass angle is also a very good idea. Less fairing under it. Just glue it on.

[@mozismobile]

I love feeding the welder up through a hole you were going to drill eventually. That's genius.

[@CleverOctopus]

Your inverter and kitchen setup look very similar to what we have planned. Great work as always. Ly wants to know when you're getting married.

[@albatros1752]

for making odd shape templates from foam , and /or thin strips or plywood , I can highly recommend use Hot Glue Gun . it dries fast and it is less fiddly than screws, I do that for years , newer fail !!! P

[@vetchb.s.c.1612]

I was surprised he didn't use hot glue. He used hot glue and foam to make some templates in the head.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

I fixed the cracked baskets in my top loading freezer with a hot melt glue gun. Amazing how well it worked. Because no replacements were available anywhere at any price.

[@PhilipLaLonde]

Oh glorious welding! That was gratifying. Well done!

[@BaronWeber1]

I think the toe rail idea with the wood is great, it will add a lot to the look. Great video as always, thank you!

[@andymarshall2201]

I nearly had a heart attack when you were using your circular as a bench when cutting the floor boards! But as always you knew what you were doing. Great job Mads

[@andymarshall2201]

Sorry, just re-read my comment, I meant when you were cutting the ply when it was on top of your new fuel tank!

[@kevlarandchrome]

I love the toe rail idea. That wood and stainless combination is going to look slick as hell and give it a nice unique flare over an ordinary aluminum one.

[@rfiorini]

Brilliant idea using a hole. Love it when people think outside the box.

[@drewbale]

Just a quick one I think the best idea for the island and the Diesel tank would be to use a pole through the deck that way you can fill and vent at the same time also it would give another hand rail you can easily pump to the smaller tank and have a bevel cut off

[@martinsachs3837]

congrats for droping the diy stailess toerail! go superhuman and drop drilling holes next;) just glue the stainless brackets to the deck with high-grade sikaflex and, when set, bolt the wooden toerail to the brackets. high grade sikaflex sports 4N/mm2 so 2 metric tons for a 50x100mm bracket. please leave a 3mm glue line or you'll never get them off again.

[@zacharyschweter6466]

the outside of that toe rail looks great - i have issue with the foot/toe rippers on the inside.... all those sharp edges - send chills down my spine ....

[@Garryck-1]

Do you honestly think they'll be left sharp? Give Mads some credit. He's not an idiot.

[@zacharyschweter6466]

@@Garryck-1even if rounded they can be foot rippers ... so many ways to detail this... from steaming the wood and bending into place then shaping the drainage after... to glassing in... although best part is he's thinking of foot-holds when underway...

[@grantflavel9822]

All your work is perfect. We use tube mating under tanks just to allow air flow. But very good work👍 The cheapest templates is sign board core flute cut too 50mm and hot glue too to make templates 😎

[@jamesadams1064]

Well thought out and excellently executed. Would’ve been nice to see the diesel tank placed in the center but it’s not my project nor my boat. I look forward to Sunday’s so I can learn some more things. Thanks Mads. Stay safe and healthy. Oh, I think I saw Djævelen peering over your shoulder gleefully as you were applying his son.

[@Jeppe.P.Bjerget]

Its fun to see from week to week the changes there is. In the start of todays video, you can imagine more of how the boat will be in the future. And to see that you have a hole floor makes it so much easier to work. Keep up the good work. Gode ønsker fra Norge

[@lordpelvis63954]

Your videos always put a smile on my face.

[@christorrance2876]

She looks great. Love your attitude. Keep it up. Things are moving faster.

[@KethKessel]

Thank you for being soo cool headed and for the videos...they keep me sane.

[@bluejeans725]

The tank breather can travel to anywhere at whatever up and down you like, preferably finishing well above starting level, but before it does it needs a catch-can or a pigtail, both immediately above the tank so any slosh liquid drains back to the tank, similar principle as the airlocks on brewers drums, in fact a brewers airlock may be ready made perfect but a catch-can would work just as well. There is also no problemo if the vent eventually (pun intended :) ends up at the top of the day tank, it can go at any level on it's way there and still function perfectly.

[@nordemoniac]

Reminds me of when I filled water in my "new" Bayliner 288, approx 2 minutes afterwards I got a unwanted pressure test when a 3 meter volcano erupted from the water filling cap (which was still open). Turned out the tank vent was corroded and 100% sealed shut. After drilling through the "vent" I got a stream of air out, and could resume filling. Well...at least I know the tank isn't leaking.

[@edwardhovitz1753]

almost passed my coffee out my nose when i saw you bore that hole through the hull so suddenly... had to go back and re-listen to your rationale. dang - i get it - just would have been nice to avoid that somehow and certainly a good idea for tacking all of that frame together in the boat as well. that frame and base looks great. great vid - thanks.

[@rickwilson3032]

Your moving really fast now. Looks great.

[@guyfox68]

Great job. Look forward to each Sunday video. You have some serious skills that you are displaying.

[@Njwanta]

Thanks for showing us 102 setback. I’m glad to see that it’s all worked out a week later. Thanks for producing uplifting content.

[@scubascreen-eco-cosmeticsm8820]

Looking good....becoming a boat again..and almost a floor! :)

[@rs1329]

Mads, Weld a couple of pieces of angle iron to the frame of the tank holder that would support the cabin sole..... possible weakness PROBLEM SOLVED and an easy "to do".

[@kiplingslastcat]

Mads! You're a Machine, Man! Man, I'm looking at that frame around the tank and remembering all that fiberglass work... Dude, the heart of your Ship is solid, Bro! Your idea for a tow rail is brilliant and will be beautiful! (Just make sure you file down the sharp edges use some non-skid on those passageways.) And round off the corner of the island to match the wall on the head.. all of them! Good job, Mate.

[@Garryck-1]

That would be "toe rail"... ;)

[@sailingcivilised]

Pretty Dang Spiffy , Glorious Glorious Sanding , and now 102 it Up !

[@stevethompson6867]

When the sea is bumpy another vertical pole to hang onto is a really good idea. Then your venting is easy with no risk of air locks making you think that the tank is full.

[@svbarryduckworth628]

Think of the IBTP genset as "upgrade-ready" since you can fairly easily swap the 102 out for a 204 sometime in the future to make it a full IBP if it proves.really necessary, and/or when you can find a deal on a used one somewhere. I like the idea of another stainless stripper pole coming off of the island to hide a tank vent. In a bumpy seaway there is no such thing as too many handholds at shoulder height -especially with so much cabinetry to run or get thrown into.

[@nik-lc3ob]

Plastic fuel tanks expand quite a bit in all directions when they are first filled up. Just keep that in mind...

[@clidiere]

Have you considered mooring lines chafe in your toe rail design? Also, the holes in most aluminium toe rails make for a good attachment point for a barber hauler, boom preventer, etc. In that case, I suppose a couple of pad eyes could come handy.

[@normandyck7609]

Well done Mads. I've always enjoyed your videos which I look forward to watch each week. please remember that one doesn't make mistakes just learning experiences. Keep moving forward

[@rwess]

Wow, high-quality progress. That little ship will be bomb-proof.

[@donpetrey8007]

Add another stainless pipe for a vent cause if you overfill it you could burp or spill your stainless tank. Also I believe ABYC says each tank must have its own independent vent. Also for the island bolts add a piece of ply or foam so the bolts don’t rub the tank.

[@bahionic]

Hi Mads Remember to ad hydro + wind generator along with the solar energy, that will bump it up some more

[@prometheus7504]

Great work Mads dont beat your self up to much

[@bobhamilton298]

I think I would make that island the same size as the tank. Walking around it seems fine now, but will become a pain quickly.

[@_instabil]

A great argument for Corona-related home office work. Or am I the only one who thinks there has never been such a big progress in a single week?

[@GjS-UK]

Another fantastic video, thanks for sharing the progress.

[@proffd972]

Wow the cabin is looking great. Poking a hole in your boat had to hurt a little.

[@SailingLibra]

If you decide on solar panels, have a look into sunbeam "nordic" panels, since i have these intalled i have a lot more time at 100% charge in the batteries. They work better in a lower angle of sun, and have a shadow optimizaion also... You can never have too much solar power, especially in winter time...

[@nobody46820]

Thanks for spreading good information!🙂👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@mikaelreichel3759]

Although I have a 9,5 kWH Onan on Artemis, the concept is to draw all 230V power from the inverter via 24volt bank and let the genny drive a hefty 230V to 24V volt charger (ca 100A). I will retain the 230V to 230V load capability just in case (I have two emergency 230 bilge pumps). Hence, you need not to worry about the smaller genset you built (very nice job it is) get the benefit from having both battery and genny providing the combined power. Genny now has to run a little longer to get the batteries up to charge thats all.

[@devenhammond5470]

Well... i would give you my two cents, but however you already have the idea taken... Great work my friend. Giving me lots of ideas on my own sailboat. The only thing i might input, is that i would have glassed the fuel tank in and used the straps over the top out of a 2" tow strap type material. But, your idea is definitely strong, and a better way. keep it up!

[@MMM_Pizza]

The bulwark designs you mentioned from Far Reach Voyages look amazing! I really like that look.

[@verynearlyaboutsailing8114]

"102'ing it up" Brilliant expression. I am going to start saying that in normal everyday life, as in, "I've really 102'd that up", and no-one will understand - except the chosen few ;)

[@edrussell7960]

I just finished watching your last upload this morning. Funny to see my favorite channels commenting on other vlogs. (Double bass). Peace

[@verynearlyaboutsailing8114]

@@edrussell7960 My general rule is to not do anything on my boat unless Mads has done it first. Every time I have strayed from that rule, I normally 102 it up :)

[@lbb101]

@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 likely leads to "glorious, glorious sanding" till it looks "pretty dang spiffy". Two terms I start to hear on more and more sailing channels. And I am waiting, for Alex Thomson adopting the terms during prep for and sailing the next Vendée Globe ...

[@verynearlyaboutsailing8114]

@Sailing Winifred Brilliant. I hadn't spotted that. But I bet Mads had.

[@billiondollardan]

Mads makes good cuts for someone new to a plasma cutter. Most guys don't bother using a guide and they get the edges of the cut all hashed up

[@philareilly]

Hey Mads, some advice on the toe-rail proposal: Plan to use those angle brackets as the bases for your stanchions. On my dad's old Van DeStadt 34 the toe rail was set up in a very similar manner. The teak toe rail attached to a piece of angle that was welded to the deck (steel boat). Welded to the bottom and side of that angle was a 50mm piece of stainless tube that accepted the stanchions. It worked really well and was a very strong base.

[@flyingdutchman6984]

He is going to need a lot more bases than stanchions, but I agree using at least some of the bases as stanchion bases is a great idea. It is crazy how easy it is to break most stanchions off. A stronger system to support his lifelines is always a good idea.

[@belledetector]

With regards to the toe rail project. The toe rail is a rather intricate part of the appearance of your boat allthough not really a necessary part of the structure, unless it bolts the two parts together. To save time and money, I would fill and glass the hull/deck joint and fair it to a sharp edge and leave it for now. Later on if you cruise the tropics you can haul out in Thailand fi., and have them make you a nice teak toe rail and maybe a teak cockpit, for a fraction of the price.

[@edgarmosiman7389]

When you make the toe rail brackets use them as stanchion bases. Two fer..

[@joshbascom8618]

Island is looking good!

[@espowari]

Loving the videos and your enthusiasim. I look forward to the video every single week. I also noticed that it must be warming up there! Have fun!!!

[@GregFredrickson]

You do have to vent the tank but that is basically to allow air to replace the fuel you remove. A hose that is routed with your fuel line should be fine. Carburated cars use this method too to manage fumes.

[@urlkrueger]

On the subject of electric capacity, my 2 øre would be to provide enough battery/inverter capacity to power at least most of your major devices simultaneously and just use the generator to recharge the batteries and maybe run the dive compressor. Sure, you may have to run the generator longer but then again you may find you run it only infrequently.

[@oliverdjurle711]

I sure hope that transducer position will be working good since I heard some people who mounted their too close to the keel got reflections from it. Might only be bulbed keels that gets a problem. But that positioning sure makes it a lot easier when putting the slings on the boat. Nice video Mads :) You have got a good hang on tig welding, I just bought one and it's super fun! I'm still voting for a stainless toerail, maybe make a diy metal roller bender?

[@flyingdutchman6984]

I had problems with bubbles flowing past my transducer making depth readings jump all over the place. You raise a very good point. The placement of the transducer can be very finicky.

[@64nine]

Let's hope that every cloud has a silver lining!

[@TopDedCenter1]

@11:40 hot glue (instead of screws) is your friend when making a template.

[@RobinHarlow]

Bosch make some spiffy cordless Gluepen doohickeys.

[@Nerd3927]

102 it up = Successful outcome of a project with some minor issues only considered a failure by a perfectionist.

[@chevy307sb]

Try Capral in Australia for the rails. With our dollar heading south you may get a better deal. Check their catalog on line. Love the channel

[@chrisj2268]

great video madz, I can feel another T-Shirt coming on referring to the itty bitty perkins :)

[@robinhodgkinson]

Another Mads quality installation. Getting around the island will be easier when you round off the corners.