I like how M2K's Zelda is improving faster than Salem's Melee
@bannanafruitsalad4 жыл бұрын
Mans needs to work on his spacing, he keeps undershooting when m2k is dashdancing
@myboy_4 жыл бұрын
@@Parpeing I AM UNBURDENED AT LAST
@raghavpatel7204 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t know the matchup well
@PotatoGawds4 жыл бұрын
lol
@adjmonkey4 жыл бұрын
I think "Years of Research" Salem may be from the future. The "Years of Research" was the amount of time it took Salem to take a set of M2K's Zelda.
@JX22094 жыл бұрын
At this point M2K is reinventing Zelda's meta
@robertadamsx24 жыл бұрын
Zelda is a pretty safe low tier. If you ever find yourself losing, just turn into sheik.
@JX22094 жыл бұрын
@@robertadamsx2 Hahahha I know...
@Athesies4 жыл бұрын
If m2k discovers how good zelda's plaform waveland game can be he might be unstopable
@Moola8684 жыл бұрын
Was this series supposed to be Salem _winning_ a set against M2K playing every character from worst to best? Because if it takes at least 4 episodes for the 3rd worst character in the game, this is gonna be a _looooong_ series.
@austinkaukl85804 жыл бұрын
Idk, m2k prolly knows Zelda we’ll for ANY bonus to sheik, like better recovery, so I bet he’s lobbed more than his fair share of Zelda
@JohnSmith-ml8br4 жыл бұрын
lmao if you think zeldas taking awhile wait till we get to m2ks secondary: pichu
@Simon_E324 жыл бұрын
I still think Salem becoming a melee player is the best timeline in existence lol
@IL3I4 жыл бұрын
But his years of research?? They were all for nothing? Fml. I give up.
@Simon_E324 жыл бұрын
IL3I he lived long enough to see himself become the villain (or hero? Idk just go with it)
@hatsunemiku80074 жыл бұрын
@@Simon_E32 furries are not heroes
@pettdumm67964 жыл бұрын
Next I want mew2king teaches Salem Zelda
@zach24374 жыл бұрын
Crazy invisible ceiling at 4:14. At least I think that's what it was. Or maybe it was just insane SDI on the dair by Salem. Marth just teleported lol
@piercehacquard47474 жыл бұрын
Yeah, SDI.
@piercehacquard47474 жыл бұрын
Mew2King: "What stage do you want?" Salem, as MARTH: "Doesn't matter. Any legal stage." Mew2King: *picks Dreamland.* Oh, Salem....
@Kasedezu4 жыл бұрын
That silence after saying "IT LAGGED"
@pedrohenriquecarneiro33864 жыл бұрын
Oh, well, at least Salem managed to win a game against mew2king's Zelda...
@Boyzby4 жыл бұрын
I actually avoided looking at the time like it was a tournament match, because I was hoping for the reverse 3-0 from Salem.
@Cristeve4 жыл бұрын
6:08 Wow, her second worst attack actually worked! (Her worst attack is Down Air)
@matty35014 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure down tilt is even worse than dair
@Cristeve4 жыл бұрын
@@matty3501 At least it spikes on the ledge, more than Down Air
@RyuuAF4 жыл бұрын
din's fire is her worst but excluding specials up smash is her worst, at least in some mus dtilt dsmash is a confirm but in no mu is up smash ever useful despite being the fastest up smash in the game
@cfalcon83424 жыл бұрын
The m2k fox tutorial is gonna come in handy for salem to beat this zelda.
@dunnzo94324 жыл бұрын
Bruh Zelda is top tier
@jansomski89804 жыл бұрын
mew2king is top tier
@icecoldnut51524 жыл бұрын
ikr her down b is so broken
@Surgemaster20124 жыл бұрын
If you down b as Sheik you instantly lose the match.
@Surgemaster20124 жыл бұрын
@@Seremor108 I was referring on stage. But you're right.
@TheUchihasparky4 жыл бұрын
@@Surgemaster2012 remember when plup won genesis by turning into Zelda and kicking Armada?
@LimpDeuces4 жыл бұрын
This may become the longest series on KZbin, and I love it every week so that’d be fine with me
@hatjousuke4 жыл бұрын
What was with that teleport at 4:12?
@PascalTyranitar4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that SDI at 4:14.
@josephhanicak79224 жыл бұрын
I wish Salem luck for when he gets to Sheik, he's going to need a whole, whole lot of it.
@winsonzhu44274 жыл бұрын
I'd say it'd probably take the whole rest of the year in order to just get M2k to start playing tourney viable characters against Salem in all seriousness.
@MyAce84 жыл бұрын
@@winsonzhu4427 Honestly a year is generous. M2K has beaten top 100 players with his pichu, depending what you consider tournament viable Salem has a long road ahead of him
@winsonzhu44274 жыл бұрын
@@MyAce8 Pichu has a surprisingly not terrible (or not as terrible as some like to believe) matchup against say, c falcon, especially when considering fd and chaining like a dozen up airs into nair. However, pichu can't exactly do the same thing to salem's peach, since peach is floaty and is able to scrap with pichu well enough. M2K pichu will probably take longer than zelda in all seriousness, but Salem will get better as the series progresses so who knows.
@cyanariesdw044 жыл бұрын
5:39 woah calm down M2K
@casey.taylor4 жыл бұрын
M2k should give Salem tips at the end of each game
@sujetonormal33994 жыл бұрын
Salem needs tp learn by himself, if not then he will say it was so easy learning and that he did years of research
@jjrambles6834 жыл бұрын
I want to see them go over and review the matches. M2k can make fun of Salem for not upthrowing at the 3 minute mark.
@Bocahj44 жыл бұрын
yeah the tips is a good idea.
@yellowlemonPenguin4 жыл бұрын
a lot of missed grab opportunities with link. M2k's strat seemed to be to shield approaches and projectiles and punish link's bad endlag. A couple of successful grabs would maybe condition him to shield less I guess?
@Young-bx2pf4 жыл бұрын
I noticed this to. I don’t think Salem attempted to grab once with link. His peach his by far his best character so far. He is good at setting up covering rolls out of shield and used dash dancing to trick M2k into letting him get a grab.
@soundonly73924 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing, Salem was playing ultimate link
@JohnSmith-ml8br4 жыл бұрын
salem starts the set out on dreamland as marth lmao
@aaronsilverman8374 жыл бұрын
What the hell happened at @4:13? Did he teleport up?
@galactictornado86714 жыл бұрын
Must have been some crazy smash DI
@redduskironsky10584 жыл бұрын
Melee happened. Thats what happened😂
@Finite_CO4 жыл бұрын
Man I love this series, keep up the great work guys!
@taylorgriffin50524 жыл бұрын
iirc most pro players consider zelda either the 3rd or 4th best character in the current meta
@TheSpartanlaw4 жыл бұрын
Her down-b is too strong
@Schtoples4 жыл бұрын
In ultimate?
@myboy_4 жыл бұрын
@@Schtoples ultimate online
@SendoPLUS4 жыл бұрын
i thought after game 3 salem would have had the reverse 3-0 damn
@rumfordc4 жыл бұрын
this series has helped me better appreciate Salem and his personality
@mrt129_luigi4 жыл бұрын
this series will slowly become "can mew2king's zelda defeat salem's _____?"
I remember a while back m2k said that salem would be top 30 in the world (or something, I forget the quote) in melee with his peach. Starting to think that wasn't true. I think it was at summit maybe and I remember Toph reacting pretty negatively to the comment haha, if anyone knows what I'm talking about let me know.
@TheRealMew2king4 жыл бұрын
Top 100. And he used to be way better in 2017
@austinkaukl85804 жыл бұрын
14:45, Salem’s laugh tho
@averagejoessb31104 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thought that this looked weird? 4:13 was it SDI or something?
@zach24374 жыл бұрын
Damn I just left like this same comment because I was surprised no one else mentioned it. It looked like invisible ceiling at first but going frame by frame now it just looks like SDI on the dair.
@TenThousandTacos4 жыл бұрын
He SDI'd way up and also went into Reeling (30% chance). Plus the move meteor'd which looked extra weird because of how his trajectory was opposite his SDI, like he got picked up then dropped.
@bugcatcherharold53154 жыл бұрын
4:14 What was that SDI? I guess that's what comes of years of researching Bayoneta combo escapes.
@rustyp694 жыл бұрын
this is our favorite m2k/salem content
@kingdedede3334 жыл бұрын
Hey Salem do you like the Shrek movies
@VAIS2show4 жыл бұрын
19:04 was nice
@cross250119904 жыл бұрын
Salem's link is pretty nice
@Snowballsage4 жыл бұрын
7:39 anyone else notice he was invisible?
@ImWeirdBoy4 жыл бұрын
You can do it Salem!
@Daplin14 жыл бұрын
You shouldve told salem how to drop bombs lol. Boomerang nair is not sheild pressure
@VAIS2show4 жыл бұрын
Hoping this becomes an actual tournament set in the future lol
@DerkerBluer4 жыл бұрын
This was like watching an Ultimate match with more stocks
@skewah4 жыл бұрын
SALEM YOU HAD ONE CHANCE
@matheusmoreiradearaujo32674 жыл бұрын
When I see salem play melee I feel kinda happy with my own gameplay
@andressalvat4 жыл бұрын
Well I doubt any of us could beat M2k's Zelda anyway
@maplecinna39794 жыл бұрын
Salem's Marth was painful to watch. I'm no Marth main but he was f-smashing when he shouldn't, not grabbing, not downtilting, and not f-smashing when he should.
@lordmew54 жыл бұрын
He grabbed and down tilted they jist didn't work so he moved on to doing back airs at no one
@OldManTastic4 жыл бұрын
Link was my old main back in my melee days
@cyfer1154 жыл бұрын
Even if it takes 1000 episodes for Salem to finally beat M2K’s entire tier list, I’m rooting for him! He’ll be good enough at that point to be top 50 in Melee 👀👀👀
@ryanwong45754 жыл бұрын
Dude really lived an fsmash past 120
@KamiKagutsuchi4 жыл бұрын
With all the Zelda practice m2k is getting he should go Zelda the next time he goes to a melee tournament.
@jrkb894 жыл бұрын
Where the research at tho?
@Telcontar864 жыл бұрын
Hey Salem, Link's Up Tilt is really REALLY good. Use it more
@jackrauch87474 жыл бұрын
By the time that Salem beats M2k’s Zelda he will have already mained the character, and won evo.
@skiph89574 жыл бұрын
Where is the second set
@Athesies4 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like m2k put zelda too low on his tier list. An no it isnt just because salem is losing to her now or because ive lost to her before..... those are just most of my reasoning
@Athesies4 жыл бұрын
Oh also i disagree with how much salem picks battlefield, i think zelda does best on stages with lots of close together platforms and does worst on stages with no platforms followed by stages with spread out platforms
@MyAce84 жыл бұрын
idk zelda is pretty bad especially against fox/falco/marth who are the most prevalent in the meta game. Characters like roy actually have some counter play against most of the top tiers. Zelda doesn't have true combos on any characters, and gets combo'd really hard by everyone dies early, range on only one move which is not safe on shield and is generally extremely punishable. I think kirby even has an argument for being better, since at least he can approach with pivot up tilt, and he can kinda combo some characters. In the end his lack of kill options probably keeps her above him but its close. It just so happens M2K is insane with zelda, I think I remember him saying he has the same amount of hours in zelda that he does in captain falcon. I think roy/g&w are in a tier above zelda. Roy has some un-winnable matchups but his matchups against fox/falco are borderline good, and having decent matchups against the most represented characters I think was undervalued, but then again M2K was basing his list on solo maining. And g&w is just better in everyway compared to zelda.
@Athesies4 жыл бұрын
@@MyAce8 ok i promise ill read this later but i drank way too much tequila to read this now
@Athesies4 жыл бұрын
@@MyAce8 in terms of true combos zelda dosent have alot yeah but she does have a chaingrab from 0 to 50 followed by an up throw lightning kick on spacies, plus a weird but very usable chaingrab on falcon on falcon which i think goes to the mid 30s which can end in a lightning kick. She also has dash attack to lightning kick on atleast spacies on quite a far lot of percents
@MyAce84 жыл бұрын
@@Athesies It's much easier to get a grab with pichu imo. at least he's fast, and low-key has a better grab
@midocrimsonfate19484 жыл бұрын
Why is Salem not on webcam?
@Cristeve4 жыл бұрын
Zelda is very underrated
@alexanderstilianov4 жыл бұрын
Good thing M2K never used Zelda's best move by far.
@ryngtolu43344 жыл бұрын
One day he'll beat that Zelda, i believe in you Salem!
@Rokuxaz4 жыл бұрын
4:13 huh?
@deadwatchX_X4 жыл бұрын
Who’s next?
@Michael_Likes_Food4 жыл бұрын
We love you Salem!!!
@alexanderstilianov4 жыл бұрын
Melee Link is such a laggy and unfun character to play as. Sucks that one of my favourite Nintendo characters is my least favourite in Melee. He's somewhat better in Sm4sh but even Ganondorf is way more satisfying and fun to play as.
@vittorioartiano88404 жыл бұрын
Salem, you could time m2k out on fontain of dreams, i know it's a bit cheap and is technically banned but it works.
@raghavpatel7204 жыл бұрын
Should dark wizzy main Mario in brawl? I would love to see that video
@kevinguimond77114 жыл бұрын
You can do it Salem, stick with Peach
@mitch.e29604 жыл бұрын
Years of research: Day 387... Finally Got M2K's Zelda to game five.
@qb44284 жыл бұрын
Game 4
@kylebaker59414 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see marth and shiek lol.
@trashmand4 жыл бұрын
Yo m2k you should teach Salem pichu so I can learn more anout the olaystyle of my main
@trashmand4 жыл бұрын
Hey man i was joking on the pichu guide i already know hes bad and accept that i play him cause hes a fun character to me he just is a me character and i have been practicing many high or top teir characters also
@trashmand4 жыл бұрын
Pika is my least favorite pokemon i like pichu much better cause he isn't super overated so its just me not liking a mascot so its just me being stubborn
@trashmand4 жыл бұрын
Thanks have a great day
@benjaminratthe99044 жыл бұрын
@@Parpeing Pichu is easy as hell in Ult just like the whole cast minus 5 characters or so tbh
@provence89174 жыл бұрын
Dunno if Zelda's "significantly" better (she's still awful, no question) than Bowser and Kirby or if M2K is significantly better at playing Zelda than at playing Kirby/Bowser.
@tylercasea4 жыл бұрын
I mean Zelda's fair and bair are like C. Falcon knees that you can throw out multiple times. That's way better than anything Kirby or Bowser has.
@Skullmiser4 жыл бұрын
Mew2King was screaming the whole time he was playing Bowser. He was used to Later versions. So this is a very fair comment.
@CoachJohnMcGuirk4 жыл бұрын
How does salems skill not carry over at all? He cant even short hop lol
@RyuuAF4 жыл бұрын
transitioning from melee to ultimate is easier than from ultimate to melee since melee is a harder game overall
@SwanPrincess8994 жыл бұрын
Accurate representation of zelda "struggling" against swordies in melee love you m2k an l still main zelda regardless in ult an melee.Its all on how you play Zelda imo.
@SwanPrincess8994 жыл бұрын
@@Parpeing true i guess xD
@ketchubb4 жыл бұрын
Salem counterpicked Mew2King's Zelda with... *LITERALLY ANY CHARACTER*
@Marcusjnmc4 жыл бұрын
ok then '.' seeing Marth play was nice
@tettris81754 жыл бұрын
GIVE ME MORE ZELDA SENPAI!!!!!!
@georgejohnson87514 жыл бұрын
Has Salem been practicing in his off time? His tech is starting to look ok
@jjrambles6834 жыл бұрын
Yes he's been practicing
@suveceathesecondnotvexlol66854 жыл бұрын
Do another kirby and do falco and ice climbers😁🥳🎮
@jakehadfield98084 жыл бұрын
Played Zelda and never used her most OP move...man, that's disappointing.
@finge37864 жыл бұрын
Down B?
@redduskironsky10584 жыл бұрын
@@finge3786 down tilt
@prince50634 жыл бұрын
Oop
@drizzledsyrup41894 жыл бұрын
bro, oof
@sgtfignewton94134 жыл бұрын
i thought salem was a smash bros player? why's he playing a non-smash title?
@denshitenshi4 жыл бұрын
damn if salem were using young link it probably would've worked out
@NessKwik04 жыл бұрын
Kind Boy Scout young link doesn’t win the matchup as hard
@deltatin27584 жыл бұрын
Salem's Link kind of nice though
@c0nk28794 жыл бұрын
This is the least aggressive melee gameplay I've ever seen. Guess that's what happens when you play Ultimate for a year. Lmao so much waiting in shield and not enough interesting movement.
@MyAce84 жыл бұрын
tbf this is zelda. shes not exactly known for her stellar movement
@NessKwik04 жыл бұрын
Ace shinigami i think he is talking about Salem
@kingbill81554 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Link like top tier in this game
@NippelodeonXD4 жыл бұрын
No he is below average
@hyliansceptile4 жыл бұрын
LikeTheBoss Boi as a link main all I can say is I wish 😪
@garo78394 жыл бұрын
Hah!
@dakotad704 жыл бұрын
This proves that zelda is not as bad as people think.
@sora44404 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't...
@Phoenix_The_HeroHater4 жыл бұрын
First again don’t @ me
@dunnzo94324 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@aminekhoury14704 жыл бұрын
No ones cares and you even liked your own comment
@Phoenix_The_HeroHater4 жыл бұрын
Akaï yeah I do that and I just put it there cuz why not?
@niallcunningham93744 жыл бұрын
[MultiTopics]Naphtali Luther Flores cause your sad as probably
@Phoenix_The_HeroHater4 жыл бұрын
Niall Cunningham tbh the two other guys prob are too and also you like your own comments too so at least I’m not alone