Salesforce Founder Gives the Truth on AI Agents w/ Marc Benioff | EP

[@ShubinFarms]

This guy is annoying

[@TripTipsClips]

I noticed most fat CEOs are super disrespectful. They talk shit but their physical capabilities could never back their mouth up

[@GungaGaLunga777]

Selling desperation. Every single SaaS company will be going extinct. Salesforce seats sold will be going down down down. Bloated nightmare software. Any business will be able to leverage AI all on their own. Agentic sales AI's that can scale in real time. AI compute will replace all software. A handful of people will run the AI's for the business. All by natural language communicating in English telling the AI what to do. Not prompt engineers. Deep business thinkers who can converse and have reasoned discourse with the AI to do all functions of the business. Sooner than we can comprehend. No Saleforce required.

[@dedlunch]

Truth

[@JasonHeath-z7i]

This is happening way to fast .. it's going to be a pandemic.. it's going to run thru the population.. all these great things it can do but what's going to happen this summer when 75 % Toronto has no work .. like 😮 4 months away

[@GungaGaLunga777]

@@JasonHeath-z7i indeed. at a scale and velecity that is hard to comprehend. All in the hand of a few billionaires that reign over the global corporate hegemony with the military industrial complex on their corporate board. Microsoft. It just had to be Microsoft. smh At least it won't be Marc Benioff and his cult of gaslighting Kahuna matata whatever bs. My god Saleforce is one massive ball of horrible software. It's over Marc, enjoy your billions. It won't be you. Relax and enjoy the decline and fall of SaaS. Your AI sucks. Acceptance is the only path now. Get over yourself. Did I say how much I hated using Salesforce. lol

[@panther88888]

Salesforce already has an insane dataset of 37000 companies, some of the biggest companies in the world. These companies will do both. They will build agents with and without salesforce . He said he is going all in with agents. He’s smart and going all-in for a reason

[@GungaGaLunga777]

@@panther88888 going all in is a terrible move unless you know with absolute certainty you have the winning hand. Free open source is already beating Salesforce which is too bloated and in inefficient to compete in the AI space. Salesforce is a massive pile of spagetti glued on objects over decades. I'd bet the Notes object still can't be searched using the global plain text search. Outdated and will go extinct. It's not like organizations trapped in COBOL applications. Any company can take their Salesforce data and use anything else and migrate away. The AI winning hand is not held by Benioff. His time is over.

[@bryanhunter3385]

For a friend of Peter's, Marc is very disrespectful of one of the core themes of his podcast - the future. What a rude man

[@dansin468]

This prediction is not going to age well. Hoping to see 2026 and 2030. More demand for software developer coming :))

[@donaldjohnson-y6n]

Marc is a strange duck

[@flash3047]

This guy is doing a fantastic job of avoiding the question. He knows the future is exciting and great for him as CEO and the investors on Wall Street. He also knows by default that it is going to reduce his workforce and those of others. This is why the rich are not going to help the unemployed. A revolution, many well be coming. Interesting times.

[@MrBenMhidi]

Peter: tell me about the future? Benioff: I won't speak about my bunker

[@drewcampbell7980]

Call it anxiety, I just wish I could fall asleep and wake up 15 years from now. I think by then it will all be a positive thing. I think there's an inevitable 6-7 year stretch where it's exceptionally stressful. We shall see.

[@shake6321]

i think you are correct. technological unemployment won’t happen in the long run since jobs are infinite but technological job displacement will happen in the short run.

[@drewcampbell7980]

@shake6321 i genuinely think we are headed to abundance. I genuinely think there will be standards for participation and you'll have to engage to be granted certain benefits but those bars will be low. But yes, I think there's a bridge from now to there and that bridge is a mine field

[@shake6321]

​@@drewcampbell7980 i agree with you 100% i was thinking there have been 7 levels of economics throughout mans history on Earth - Caveman - Hunter Gatherer - Agrarian Local (they traded locally. Example: Hittites, Acadians, etc) - Agrarian Global ( they had ships to trade far away. Example: Romans and Spanish Empire) - 1st Industrial Revolution (British Empire) - 2nd industrial Revolution (US Empire) - Information/Decentralization/Exponential Age (what were are just entering) In each Age, man produced 10X-1000X more wealth than the previous age. Going from the industrial age to this new Exponential Age is going to be remarkable. the entire planet will be connected via the internet and the internet will become the new nations state. Ai's and Alt Energy and Crypto Currency will reign supreme. you'll have flying cars and autonomous gliders that make deliveries at near zero energy and cost. They'll be 100 Billion Robots and a trillion autonomous agents. We'll hack DNA and create millions, if not billions of new species. Imagine someone in the Roman Empire being catapulted to NYC in 1935. it will blow their mind. But because it will happen so fast it will cause a lot of change. i think everything is on the verge of collapsing and being rebuilt over the next 20-40 years.

[@wintergreen4978]

A guy who is not able to talk about the next step , is really infected with a syndrome which is called The Dunning - Kruger effect ! No Offense. Peter, you're a real gentleman and I admire your grace in talking to this person !

[@johnnovotny5074]

I appreciate the friends and colleagues who feel comfortable enough to raz or challenge me the most.

[@eedv2109]

About 2 or 3 yrs ago most tech gurus were telling us that.. AI will NOT and CAN'T replaced humans at work. But what is happening now is Opposite..AI is now replacing humans at work!

[@3AISys]

Love this podcast of Peter & Marc of their authenticity, humor, philosophy, philanthropy, & generosity! ❤!

[@AdonisOnX]

Great content, Peter.

[@tracy419]

I can't even imagine the speed you must have watched this on to make that comment 2 minutes after this was posted 😂

[@AdonisOnX]

@tracy419 AI certainly helps :)

[@louisstanwu]

Wow, the world is changing rapidly. Glad I lived long enough to witness it.

[@TheErickAmezcua]

Thank you Peter! I do hope our friend Marc would listen a bit more :)

[@JohnBoitnott]

Ah friendship. Where sometimes it’s hard to tell whether you’re fighting or loving each other. 😂

[@dan_chay]

I like Benioff's focus on "trust." I'd like that focus even more if it explicitly articulated the likely implicit idea also of "trustworthiness." The latter shifts focus to our more powerful sphere of influence, ourselves. The former allows too much shifting the burden (of trust) to others.

[@DrewPrescott]

13:51 this is the moment his PR team helped him craft a response. Don’t look up.

[@mbratchie1]

Successful. Yes. Arrogant and unempathetic. Yes.

[@3nityC]

Philanthropic. Yes.

[@Agherr08]

Less work for ppl, more money for him. That is magical.😅

[@dogk764]

the irony of the discussion of this topic starting out with the discussion of the uncontrollable destructive force of the wildfires, and the head-smacking “geeze, if only we could have done something about this when it was still under control…” 😂😢

[@peterroy6801]

Baddasssss discussion!!

[@GetFlySCIENCEOfficial]

Agentforce > Copilot

[@summertech2014]

This is a great example of why incumbent market leaders will always be disrupted. By focusing on their current customer's demand, incumbents always lose the ability to see beyond the present. The leaders always say - you can dream about the future, I focus on what is real today. Exactly what Marc Bernioff is saying. But when enough start-ups can dream of the future, eventually one will succeed in creating something better. Way better and cheaper. Well... that's actually a good thing. Because if market leaders continue to succeed over a long period of time, they will snowball into giant monopolies. That is bad. So... shed no tears when SalesForce eventually discovers someone else has create something better and cheaper and wipe them out.

[@joshwong800]

You can see the PR training coming out on the question of 'will jobs be decimated?'.... "There will be a change with jobs" "implications for jobs and jobs will move" "rebalanced our workforce " . Never a straight forward statement of the obvious human vs ASI paradigm that 'yes you will lose your job'. No one can be cheaper, faster and safer compared to ASI. UBI needed right now. Gear up for the hobby and passion driven society. 💚

[@jonnyvpc]

For a CEO of this size to jam on AI like this is dope. To keep it real, I think Agentic workflows are the future of Architecture (cloud, data, AI itself). I am doing this with UX but the UX tools are not interconnected. Example: Figma and Protopie as each look at one another as competition so natrually, the deep learning models cannot connect to these API sets. So I have to do a workaround for now until the vendors recognize the nature of the future: 100% connectivity and curated by the driver, not the operator. That is, this is not a rollercoaster, it is a roller derby. We drive where we want, roll where we want and need the ability to use agents to connect to super high-accurate customer data and align usability to those workflows. I am excited for the future but UX products, are indeed behind. Sure, can prompt a UI, but what about vetted customer intelligence based on the next step of design; prototyping. Then behavior? I'd love more interaction between "UX" driven companies. We are the designer of user experiences. Time to get on board.

[@robbrown2]

He's Mighty evasive and rather obnoxious in my opinion

[@rey82rey82]

“Maybe we aren’t going to hire anybody this year” -MB

[@dboynette]

Thanks for amazing insight, sooo exciting.

[@CharlotteLopez-n3i]

AI taking over labor force hot topic. Great insights from Marc Benioff!

[@timothytogstad1404]

So much fun and funny too!

[@edgarleonayala]

please come to Puerto Rico. I need to set up an AI company.

[@kelmohror6960]

Where is the "truth"? A lot of socializing, a lot of frivolity, a lot of self-aggrandizement but little to no entrepreneurial sustenance

[@chriss2295]

Salesforce obviously sees it future in jeopardy. If Ai agents are the future, Salesforce as a platform will no longer be needed.

[@AIAgentStore]

Interesting interview

[@jarrodfisk]

I commend you Peter for pressing Marc on what the future of jobs looks like. It’s very concerning how much he was dodging your questions about what the future looks like. He was ridiculously disingenuous.

[@jarrodfisk]

The title of interview should have been “Salesforce Founder Hides the Truth on AI Agents w/Marc Benioff”

[@jacquelinewilliams2740]

Huh? This guy says because we have lower birth rates we will have lower workforce, therefore we need to create agents to replace the would be workers? Huh? With less people wouldn’t we obviously need less being produced?🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️. The logic from some of these guys is just disturbing:(.

[@JasonHeath-z7i]

Im a big fan ! Of this Ai tools are fabulous. But im starting to get nervous

[@maximilianalexander2823]

While it's always good to have some skepticism, I caution that a CEO shouldn't allocate all his focus on the present. Make the ship is sailing, but you have to point it in the direction that's correct. The short sighted nature of Uber's board to milk their platform as an add-on and destroy the self driving research group will be studied for ages. I hope that Benioff is privy that a lot of CEOs might one day have 1 ChatGPT or some LLM chat bot where they could ask it questions about the sales numbers and get an answer without logging into Salesforce. Like on first principles, that could happen. It might not but it's not farfetched.

[@robbrown2]

His whole jokingly refusing to talk about the future is annoying and unfunny

[@BizAutomation4U]

Marc B "I want to use your channel to sell AgentForce, which means you have to talk about the here and now" Peter H "But I want to use you to get more subscribers and increase my cred by making you talk about the future. I even called you my "Good friend". It's how I control all my powerful friends, but it's not working ! (all of which are titans of society, just luck I guess ;-). Incidently Marc B has demonstrated his sharp elbows during this interview, why I've always referred to him as Silicon Vallye's biggest blow-hard, but also a great voice to listen to (so long as you can parse his self serving noise from legit well thought through insights which come from a place of genuine knowledge. He's not lazy)

[@jason_v12345]

7:02 - 7:42 Wow, that's 0.25 "joy"s a second. Impressive.

[@bcooper123abc]

Benioff is trying HARD to sell the HERE AND NOW. Almost sounds like he is DESPERATE. I'm really looking forward to the day when SDFDC essentially becomes a database with pipes company, and the user experience defaults to a vendor-agnostic agentic interface. Be careful what you wish for PT Barnum.

[@Richard-eg6fw]

Let's see how AI agent can help Marc lose weight, stay in shape. Otherwise it's bullshit.

[@JosephSilv4]

Lookin healthy, Pete 😉

[@bhavtosh5328]

Liberation from work is essential for happiness in life.

[@Monk_Mode_Master]

this guy needs to find a balance with his sarcasm. I appreciate his hustle in life though.

[@last-life]

Its weird - listen to people talk about their second/third/fourth houses burning down while going on to talk about how your job will be made obsolete - with a smile. I'm a capitalist - but it feels weird

[@larryczerwonka5125]

putting wildfires out the minute they start shows such a lack of understanding of nature and forest management.

[@stevethompson210]

During the podcast: *smile and laugh. After the podcast: “what an a**hole”

[@shake6321]

we are a few years away from agents. they are still too dumb and cost to much. you need way too many tokens for an agent to navigate a web page and those tokens cost a lot in a smart model like 01 or 03. the price needs to go down 100x and the quality needs another 5x boost.

[@nicoledickson4270]

Big layoffs coming. If the agents are successfully managing 95% of cases, thats a lot of bodies out the door.

[@alexzarifeh8848]

More so reduced recruitment.

[@kevinprice4536]

Is this guy channeling Steve Jobs ?

[@epapanak]

The analysis of future work is based on present conditions and not on changing situations . At present we have energy concentrated on places where it is easily transported and intelligence had to be placed in machines in one place (the factory) because building and maintaining machines required high knowledge (intelligence)of technology.. This led many people to work as employees in companies. Today we have distributed (physical or iconic) renewable energy and with a Nvidia Jetson nano we can make a robot using ollama open source we can built a robot to make a large number of products to be sold in the regional or local market. I can't see how people would need a UBI, (unless they want an UBI ) and unless the big capital doesn't allow them to acquire their share in renewable energy. Freedom of our Western societies are based on personal income and not UBI. Governments allowing for policies leading to UBI will find people revolting against them 😅

[@michaelharvey9657]

Peter, inspiring discussion! Your focus on AI agents, longevity, and planetary health resonates deeply. I’m working on similar frontiers with AI-driven organ regeneration, Mars terraforming simulations, and quantum-powered energy systems. Would love to connect and explore synergies-let’s push the boundaries of innovation together!

[@claudioagmfilho]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻

[@musicandgallery-nature]

Welcome to the world of zombies. You will be happy there, live longer and healthier and serve the master without worries and thoughts.

[@OliveOil2025]

Did this guy just said everyone is taking medications?

[@Marty_Au79]

ASI shan't be taking insights or orders for that matter from me, you or Marc. Which is why he won't pontificate on the future.. "Why, It's going great rn" 😮😂

[@jamiediamond420]

39:03 🤣👏

[@NextLVLClub]

nice interview, the WEF propaganda in the end was not necessary

[@Juoa_F]

Marc has a really hard time to take his marketer hat off.😂

[@rfaux47]

AI can do it much faster and better and cheaper... wow who needs humans? These people can't resist plunging us into a nitemare

[@AshwaniJha4]

He is so self obsessed with boasting about sales force

[@Chriko_labs]

Salesforce is his baby. Ever tried to talk to a parent about anything but their baby? 😉

[@Mark-to4vy]

Wow 8:02 minutes self-adulation! Both deserve a double-whopper x-prize.

[@virtualreality99]

Full off bs, his website is full off posistions for software engineers 😂😂😂

[@TylerOKC]

I can't believe they're using a cartoon character to represent the product. Is anybody going to take it seriously? Are they even taking it seriously?

[@robbrown2]

I'm not really a fan of Salesforce but dwelling on the cartoon character is kind of weird. they're a huge software company, they also own the building that is by far the tallest in San Francisco and one of the tallest in the world. Their yearly convention is the biggest convention in the city. Yes I'm sure plenty of people take them seriously.

[@TylerOKC]

@ You are practically making my point for me.

[@TylerOKC]

@ You are practically making my point for me.

[@bbarton538]

Obviously a very capable person but lacking in manners. I appreciate they’re friends but that’s not an excuse for disrespect in this context. If he’s your friend, let him speak.

[@rfaux47]

Ooh we need energy to power AI. Reminds me of a movie series... oh yeah.. THE MATRIX.we will become batteries lol? We will serve AI power grid... shoveling coal into the oven

[@rollyouridea231]

Wow an mtp totally oriented to satisfied wall street , billions with totally not a single social reaponsibility around, the child birth lie to justify his company to start doing layoffs everwhere, when we have billions of people, in which i am pretty sure this guy does not have any interest on the impact of the world for good. I like to listen to this podcast even this guy is completely the meaning of chaos , it is good to see and listen what do powerful people with money is going forward

[@alexzarifeh8848]

Benioff being rude to Peter throughout this video 👎

[@RL.777]

Marc Benioff was afraid of the future hence his need to talk about his investments only....

[@kevinprice4536]

Wonder if one of his agents can help him with weight loss ?

[@ChairmanHehe]

Marc lost his edge a very long time ago- all he does is simp for SF

[@umaananth3602]

Trumping himself repeatedly - most boring interview on AI agents ever - he could uss some new information beyong personal brag - comparing himself w Elon Musk raises ted flags galore

[@schrodingerscat3912]

ted flags.. i like that even though it was a typo

[@offroad_explorer]

Is he trying to imitate Donald Trump?

[@OliverBuschmann]

2 Wiredoes Promotioning Themselves for Money .funny to watch

[@AnanLee1981]

Second :)

[@madmanzila]

Filanthropy *is almost synonymous with# misanthropy these days if you look deep enough.

[@MrCRobATL]

"We're able to rebalance our workforce based on the evolution of artificial intelligence" @ the 20:14 matk sounds like a CEO who's eager to replace those pesky, "profit-inhibiting HUMAN employees" to me. But, I could be wrong in my assessment, though.

[@Soya8827]

Salesforce will end soon

[@CryptoSpartacus]

AI for the win

[@Rh22-c9l]

What an assh this podcast is about the future AGI and stuff ... if you are in the here and right now mindset , well I'm not interested