2014 Non Runner Vivaro 1.6 CDTI Spares or Repair PT 1

Welcome to the Salvage Rebuilds UK channel. In this video we purchase a new non runner project.
Working at our fully equipped workshop in Kent we carry out tasks including Panel beating, Body work, Mig Welding, Sheet metal Spot Welding, Fabrication, Chassis Repairs, Sand Blasting, Engine and Mechanical repairs, Reconditioning, Restoration and Structural repairs on the Celette Jig Dozer frame machine.
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[@sruk]

I really should have said in the video the first thing we did was plug it in and read the codes and run some live dater on crank it’s got good fuel pressure. 👍

[@cavsri]

Are you getting an engine speed signal from the crank sensor? Also check cam position sensor too. These engines will run without the cam sensor but it can cause them to run badly. No signal from the crank position sensor and you’ll see no rpm on the diag when cranking. Not that I’m telling you guys how to suck eggs! 🐣

[@Roverturbo]

What scanner did you use rob? Because if your using a cheap £60 eBay special it won’t read all the ecus and you’ll only be getting half the picture. All those messages on the dash, you must of had loads of codes in every ecu, especially with a flat battery. I would highly recommend a autel mk808 or similar, for around £300 it will read all ecus in most cars out the box and also do some coding, like oil reset, EPB reset, steering angle sensor coding etc. 👍

[@timbo19751975]

@@cavsri wouldnt fire at all with no crank signal

[@marekboudys7984]

Hello, do you have a connected socket for immobilizer near to ignition ? It look like that is disconnected socket for the circuit for reading key chip. Should be black socket 10:25.

[@Regigie]

Probably something to do with the alternator

[@shahislam9450]

Hi mate vauxhall tech here. With the stop /start fault i wouldn't get invested into it. When there is a fault with these vivaros the ecu sets up a default fault regarding the stop/start making the stop/start not work. We had one these in the workshop not so long ago with similar fault turns on, rev it and it will cut out. On our one it was the dual mass flywheel. With the dual mass flywheel on these they have a main pick up point for the crankshaft position sensor to let It know tdc for cylinder 1 . Our dual mass flywheel had jumped or moved due to the internal springs being faulty and because of this the crankshaft position sensor was not picking up tdc in the correct position causing this fault.

[@stuntmanonvespa]

My thoughts, was looking through comments before I made one.

[@greenspannerman]

The amount of electronics even on a modern van is bloody astounding. I'm holding on to my older stuff as long as I possibly can

[@alanblack9540]

Lot of people think like you on this!!

[@MVS501]

A noid light isn’t the best way to test a high pressure diesel injector for switching , the ECU will kill the switching to the injector as soon as it detects the resistance doesn’t seem right , noid lights aren’t close to being the same resistance as a high pressure diesel injector . I’d be starting with a code read , clear them then see which codes reappear once it’s cranking. Any low fuel rail pressure faults & it’d be worth checking injector leak back and compare all 4 👍

[@Brian-og7qn]

This is why the older Range Rovers with out electronics are demanding big money now, the more electronic and electrical components you have the more problems you’ll get, theres just more things that can go wrong as the vehicle ages .

[@andywoolley2636]

I can’t wait to see you and Chris solve this one, because somewhere out there is a mechanic that’s had sleepless nights over this van! 😂

[@matty6848]

If other members mechanics have given up that’s not a good sign. But other mechanics don’t have a Chris!

[@johnhall3827]

@@matty6848 It is not the engineer that is the problem, it can be time and cost . How long would you keep checking it can make you nuts .

[@mcallister8893]

I've had one of these for a few years (sportive on a 15 plate) mine kept coming up check injection system, the garage I had it serviced at scanned it and it came up with a list, the mechanic told me that it had to be an ecu fault and he would need to send it off to be tested and he'd had the same problem with a Renault traffic (same van) I couldn't go without a van so bit the bullit and went to the main stealer I got a phone call 2 hours later saying its the air temp/pressure sensor £130inc been fine ever since the master tech at vauxhall told me the check injection system message is a generic message that displays due to a multitude of issues, love the channel can't wait to see you fix this one 👍

[@shahidmahmood6248]

Your lucky .... got away lightly with main dealer. Not my experience with diagnostic & repair once they've got your vehicle.

[@toafy1014]

Those vans won’t run without the intercooler connected same as the older 2.0 M9r engined ones won’t, basically the 1.6 is a smaller version of an m9r but with a few different ancillaries, try it with the cooler connected up. It’s not an immo issue. They won’t allow a start attempt and the immo light be on the dash if it was. Honestly best bet is get a code reader on it and see what comes up, need to check fuel pressure on live data or could use a multimeter into fuel pressure sensor if need be. If fuel pressure is ok suspect the chain may have jumped, if you un plug the cam sensor and it runs then that confirms it. But if timing is properly out it won’t run anyway but may still sound ok. Usually if that’s happened you get away with a chain kit, just a couple of ideas for yous. Good luck

[@jimagnew1305]

Good call Chris 👍

[@springy-2112]

Just noticed you mention the intercooler and I've asked the same question.. oops !

[@opelmantamechanic8438]

Boost pressure sensor/ boost pipe off has that effect

[@chasmcl42]

There is a mechanic in the UK some were praying that you don't get that started after he spent a fortune on it and failed.

[@cmautolink656]

Yes - I was thinking that 👍

[@russnunn2456]

Or the owner paying the mechanic thinking please dont start I spent a fortune trying and it was just a cheap fix😂

[@welephant2013]

Ha ha 1 less subscriber

[@russnunn2456]

@@welephant2013 love cars but hate them for there faults and bruised knuckles 🤣

[@welephant2013]

@@russnunn2456 I'm good at crashing them but not so good at fixing then.

[@Grant.G.Simpson]

rob, i hate to tell you this....again... but better me than the rozzers. YES, if it was a car at that weight, the combined weight of 3500kg would be legal, but here is where the law gets interseting.... if its a COMMERCIAL vehicle on the back, it goes by its gross weight, whether its empty or full, in this case, that looks like a 2700 vivaro... so 2700kg is what the old-bill would class it at, cause they aint allowed to look inside to see if its empty or full without a warrant, so in this case, it would be 2700kg plus your recovery truck, and i absolutely guarantee, if you got the wrong cop in a bad mood, he would 100% have your license off you for being stopped with this. i worked in the recovery industry for years, i know my stuff. just trying to save your livelyhood, big fan no hate.

[@tom2663]

That’s really interesting. Would the weight limit also apply if Rob bought a trailer and towed the van behind his his truck? I sometimes see the recovery services do this.

[@Grant.G.Simpson]

@@tom2663 to understand fully the DVLA/VOSA rules, you need a degree in rocket science for this next bit....ready? if it was being towed with rope or straight bar, fine, no rules broken, if on a trailer combined train weight still exceeds 3500kg so 'legally' you would need a CPC and tacho card...56mph limiter...UNLESS...a) its 100% private use, and no reward or revenue is ever made from journey, or b) the tow vehicle is a 'dual purpose vehicle (i.e 4x4 and 4+passengers capacity) e.g discovery or crew cab pickup truck etc AND has a kerb weight on V5 of 2040kg or less then you can do what you want all day long at any speed. its an absolute mindf**k set of rules that gets so complex that even DVLA/VOSA dont fully understand it. and it keeps saying that it will come down to a judges interpritation in court of law SERIOUSLY!. so to summerise, alomost EVERY transit towing a trailer and every 4x4 towing a horsebox is illegal on our roads, unless private use or 2040kg rule, but even with horsebox, if its going to a show where a prize might be won...classed as business... read towing capacity rules on dvla website, you'll be there for months going through sections and sub sections, i was.

[@tom2663]

@@Grant.G.Simpson Thanks, how complex! I guess it also depends what license you have, I passed mine post 1997 so think the weight of towing trailer is limited. I assume you have an all groups licence?

[@peterfrench9561]

I love listening to both of you while you are talking, it reminds me of home so much. I originated in Essex but have lived in Florida for best part of twenty years. As I say just listening to you two is music to my ears and then we get to the content of your work. Wonderful, I sit here enthralled at what you are doing and would so love to either be there with you or to do something similar here. Unfortunately time is beating me and I doubt I will ever get to do what you are doing but more power to your elbows lads.

[@andyspencer1010]

I hear the clutch switch for start stop could be a issue for these guys 👌👌👌

[@steveo6944]

I,m loving this mechanical stuff guys,,, brilliant! I was a compulsive viewer of "wheeler dealers" in the early days with Ed China & I never missed an episode,, so enjoyed all the oily bits & when he got stuck in under the bonnet! But for me your channel is even better than that, well done Rob & Chris,,,, keep them coming guys!

[@jeremybevan5946]

hi Rob, I would investigate as to why that component melted, It didn't happen for no reason. These clips are like a "who's done it" and watching to see whats wrong is compulsive viewing. Someone has spent along time on that van and a lot of money, then given up on it. What a result if you get it running. Can't wait for the next episode!

[@DavidJones-mn7ie]

The black box behind the battery is supposed to have all the sockets on the bottom in use.Also by the small fuse on the left there is a small socket that takes a plug which may only have one wire going to it, probably red. That wire goes through to the under bonnet fuse box. Check it for continuity, it can get corroded and break, and will bring up the check stop start message.

[@matthewmorris931]

The high light of my day waiting for your next adventure lockdown life saver .

[@tomsmith6741]

'Lockdown lifesaver' 😅👍🏻

[@thecarzarethestarz1370]

Ohhhh sh💩t 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrisstyles4630]

Looks like a decent van from the outside looking forward to this one

[@laurencecollins9059]

Never a dull moment Rob. Another fab video. Keep the content coming guys 👍

[@davidnash1220]

Brilliant saw the mini this morning came home from work and the van two episodes in one day marvellous 😀

[@nzilantemo]

These fault finder vids are the best.

[@mww558]

You guys are like surgeons. Credit to you 🔧

[@Hassan123H]

Great video as always. Also I love reading the comments on these kind of videos.

[@shaunstevenson8078]

Another enjoyable video to break the monotony of lockdown life, cheers Rob 😉

[@GM-mk3ep]

This really reminded me on that tv sketch - It’s Number Wang! It’s great to see so much new and exciting content. You guys are really knocking it outta the park, & keeping us all entertained ‼️

[@denty32]

Opens video, press thumbs up, sits back and relax...... just how I like it

[@Bootneck-RMC]

I'm not worried😁 , as I have faith in both of you to get it sorted. 👍

[@michaelhynds8035]

Top class as always. I look forward to understanding what the problem is. Thank you for sharing.

[@garysmith2845]

New upload means Stella time 🍻

[@keithyounger1368]

Agreed but its john smith for me

[@MrVxrman]

I have every faith in you guys 😊 Looking forward to more on this 😎 😀🍻👍🏻

[@rob12841]

I like these videos as with you guys it's a when not if you fix it, and you make it a fun journey to follow.

[@stuartyaxley5308]

I really like these diagnostic videos I hope you get it sorted and there are quite a few good suggestions of what it could be .LOVE IT.

[@AutomanZ]

Loving the new music Rob.

[@MrLongshot26]

These non-starter projects make great content btw

[@xvsupremacy7190]

Always a market for these well done 👍

[@Litesnip2022]

Great reading the comments, can't wait for next video,

[@ianmaciver4004]

Im not going to take wild guesses as Im a fulltime mechanic doing this kind of stuff everday. Firstly make sure you have the correct battery fully charged then put the front end back on with all pipes and sensors connected. take a very close look at the wiring plug going onto the airflow sensor bad for the outer wires on the plug breaking and causes starting problems. If still no joy go to the fuse box at the n/s inner wing unclip all the relays and fuse blocks and check every single wire pulling at them as they come out of the connector blocks, there known for broken wiring there but can take ages to find.

[@matty6848]

Seems to me electrical issues are a mechanics biggest nightmare. I tried to get the wife’s old 2003 Clio running it had some electrical fault and the all said just to scrap it as it would cost more to get it repaired than what it’s worth!

[@alanblack9540]

Hi Rob. Great vlog as usual. I did a short stint with Nissan a couple of years back and i recall a nissan primastar (same van)taxi with this 1.6 engine giving a very similar issue with similar symptoms....i.e multiple warning lights and fault codes. It shut down as the owner was sitting in an airport drop off point waiting for passengers as it was idling. After much diagnistics, it turned out that the timing chain had skipped a couple of teeth. Once the ecu had established a run cycle with crank/cam sensor offset values out of spec, it shut down the injector driver. It sounds very like the issue you're having. These engines , im told are prone to chain issues. This is just my experience with them.

[@Surmanator8989]

For a moment there I honestly thought that the starting motor was toast, well done on freeing it off , looking forward to the next video on it 👍🏻

[@atefelabed8365]

Thoroughly enjoyed the investigative work!

[@mikeberry304]

Loads of those faults will be related to wiring disconnected on stripdown Rob , check for rpm signal on any scan tool , should show it on live data , stop start could be anything from incorrect battery type , if only a normal battery , make sure clutch switch and brake light switch working , I had one of these in bits 2 weeks ago to change radiator hoses , clips and screws everywhere back to basics first for checking faults 👍👍, rpm signal needed deffo 👍

[@neilfairless4589]

Hi Rob, bit of a thinker this one. Only fault i had similar to this is when the main earth from the engine block to the battery/chassis snapped. Good luck guy's.

[@richardhaywoodh]

Superb video, brilliantly explaining the whole process and showing everything you did, cheers guys

[@austrayasescapes9417]

Always look forward to your videos

[@oldschool1993]

My first guess is the stop-start system- maybe a faulty switch on the clutch pedal or on the gearbox neutral switch- something telling the ECU that the van has come to a stop and is shutting off the run relay. You can buy those relay bypass units really cheap on Ebay. Second thought is in the ignition- are you sure the key is the original one for the van- most cars have a code in the key fob that sends a coded signal to the ignition node and if the signal does not match the code in the ECU, the engine will start and then immediately stop.

[@MattyEngland]

I agree with what others have said, possibly the immobiliser.

[@LoveLife-kt5rf]

Good job, I enjoy watching you ad chris.

[@JayJay-cy5us]

You will boss it Rob keep up the good work!👍🏻

[@Bigwormox4]

Chris and rob the dream team! Best salvage channel on Telly/KZbin. Apart from scrapheap challenge lol 😂 🙈

[@barrysaunders5243]

I reckon the thingy is broken 😬

[@chrisbradley1192]

My wife likes a good "Who done it?" I prefer a good "What done it?" Stay tuned, viewers, for mystery and intrigue.

[@georgedaville4662]

Another Agatha Christie mystery! You have set the scene perfectly, as the two super sleuths work out the who dunnit 👍👍👏

[@mikey156]

Really interesting, can't wait to see the out come 👍

[@deanbadhamswilliams2047]

Hold the battery terminals together for 15 -30 sec it will reset the immobiliser then lock and unlock the van and she will start

[@tutsywutsy]

Rob /Chris has it got 2 keys .I have just had same problem I had a new key programmed and if it's not an original you need a service key to programme it from had this done and it's perfect now.

[@terence2678]

You really are investigative geniuses.

[@davemundy7237]

Rob, I bet it is something really simple that you either know or you don't, but what I do know is that you WILL get it running !!!

[@rowdoc]

Chris rocking the Salvage Rebuilds UK hoodie.. I guess he can add “model” to his CV now as well.. 😎

[@toafy1014]

And also get code reader a decent one that will communicate with all the modules not just engine and see if any of them are not communicating especially engine ecu good place to start

[@tomhicks0588]

Great video Rob and Chris great bargain of a van keep the content up 👍

[@gene80shits]

well today you have earned my honest respect...well done for the perseverance.

[@jonnyyoung3404]

Worked on these vans for 3 years the battery has to be at 85% plus charged for the stop/start issue to stop. Also as already mentioned it won’t run without the crossover pipe from air box to throttle body.

[@jonnyyoung3404]

All codes need clearing to find out what issues you have and go from there

[@sruk]

@@jonnyyoung3404 we cleared all codes

[@jonnyyoung3404]

@@sruk so did all the faults on the dash come on after the codes had been cleared?

[@phoenixrising8383]

You guys are great , I really enjoy watching these

[@petergreen6922]

Great content, hope you get it running.

[@mneligan1]

If it cuts out after you leave off the ignition switch from crank position he could possibly be ignition switch itself behind the key

[@gingerbreadaudio]

Stop start alternator? A budy of mine had an alternator go on his and euros supplied him with a new one, however it wasn't the correct unit and it wouldn't run so back it went, he fitted the correct one and hey presto. Just a thought guys. 👍👍

[@timmoore3886]

Brilliant video guys. It’s so interesting to watch you fault finding.

[@wotrulke5868]

Love catching up on some of the older episodes of your channel 👍🏼 The video quality has improved greatly 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@SiNdrOmaS1]

A Ford Galaxy in at work had the exact same symptoms, turns out it was a bad key immobilizer

[@marksterriker4724]

I prefer the old 70s and early 80s. No tech, just a engine and mechanical equipment. But I do remember when I worked at a company taking a insignia to a local vauxhall dealer because It had a fault with the stop start . You couldn't turn the stop start off. fords allow you to do that , with the insignia when you stopped at traffic lights it was like trying to start a old ford from a cold 🤣. So I reckon the stop start has failed altogether.

[@sheepdogman1]

You and Chris are stars keep the videos coming they are superb love the investigation work.

[@TimSmith-yd9kw]

Brilliant vlog..... can’t wait for the outcome...👍🏻

[@connorladelldzz6754]

Had a simular problem with a traffic when I worked at Renault. Took ages to work out the fault with the Renault main techs. Changed the battery and it cleared the fault. Maybe the same with a vauxhall? Same underneath ain't they

[@paul-bp3no]

I really do like the old vans over the new. None of this stop start larky lol

[@matty6848]

I have that stop start in my new shape Vivaro CrewCab and it’s a pain in the arse. You can cancel it but have to press the cancel button every time you turn the key, you can’t cancel it permanently. Althoughi must say it’s a lot smoother and more comfortable than my old vivaro and where they’ve sacrificed the width they’ve increased the length so your payload is just as much. Plus you can squeeze it through tighter spaces as it’s only a bit wider than your standard car...

[@ConnorA21]

Can't wait for next video

[@philipdean5338]

Great video, total faith in you both...

[@Mark...]

I had one of those for work for many years, when the battery was disconnected or went flat there would be warnings appear, mines said check hill start, check abs, road mode normal etc, mines didn’t have stop start. After it was running for around 15 mins the warnings disappeared on their own.

[@bretbyvansales7780]

I had a 67 plate Renault trafic the same problem it was the earth wire from the chassis to the gearbox that had failed. On the dashboard it displayed the message Electric Failure Danger after the new wire fitted no problem.

[@bigboy1170]

Great content once again!

[@anthonyoriordan5967]

Love your videos, especially those projects that are head scratcher's at first👍👍🙂

[@mentalmechanic]

Sorry if said before, these won’t run and do what it’s doing if any of the pipe work to MAF sensor disconnected. Actually I think if you have the mag disconnected while pipe work off it will but if maf sensor still connected without complete pipe work to inlet connected it will fire and cutout just like that. Not saying that’s the whole problem but renaults and french stuff in general won’t run if I take pipe work disconnected

[@Aleksander9003]

1st thing is you need to plug it in and reset all the faults as its a renault and it wont start if something has been unplugged. 2nd I've had a few of them 1.6 and 2.3 masters that had a fuel pump failure, not many know that, but there is one pump in the tank itself, symptoms were exactly the same as in yours. 3rd all the faults all the dash will most likely dissappear once you get it starter, right after scanning the whole van and reseting all the ecu`s I can come down to you and we can swap some parts off my van so you dont waste money on changing good parts.

[@neilstokescvwshrewsbury7939]

Another Great Video Both Really enjoy these videos with light commercial vehicles 👌

[@markb9013]

Oh we all love a challenge.. cant wait for next one to see what you find.. And a big Thanks for the community of followers that help with comments. This all makes the channel so amazing.. Thanks again you two..

[@djm9936]

New t shirts. “Wang it over”

[@john170277]

I would buy one

[@Bigwormox4]

Main stealer t-shirt 👍

[@al.f.8204]

Aye good call, definitely a “Wang” series 😂

[@craigemblem3562]

Yes. Brilliant idea.

[@Roseeeeee]

Give it a wanging 😂

[@robinfuller747]

Look for the micro switch on the brake

[@jackmillin]

loving the van content at the minuite rob and chris

[@martf9875]

Another great vid gents,, I had the same problem with a saab, crank case sensor,, don't think it's that easy though,,, looking forward, keep em coming, Rob, Chris, stay safe everyone,, 👍

[@ernieboyle3577]

I had one changed every thing found it to be the imobiliser pick up round key had proken of and would not pick up signal 5 min check it

[@forddoctorforddoctor5918]

Rob have you checked that someone hasn’t put the wrong fuel in it 🤔🤔only an idea👍

[@Rodders20004]

I thought the same thing, if someone has gone to the effort of fitting injectors surely they would of checked the basics 1st like fuel, but you never know

[@patrickhill8748]

Great vid guys, can’t wait for the next one to see you solve the issue.

[@Sigma33sailor]

I like the clouds speeding by in the time lapse.

[@rogerblackwood8815]

Me too, but the shadows didn't move much, should be about 15 degrees per hour?

[@buddysinsight9834]

Does it have an immobiliser because that really will play up .

[@fredscratchet1355]

Couple of things with stop start systems, they have a switch on the clutch pedal. When the engine has stopped, pressing the clutch to engage gear triggers an engine restart. A duff switch will not allow the engine to run. And I think on some systems there is another switch or extra wired contact on the brake pedal which sends a signal as well. Also possible ignition switch fault? The more I watch, the more I think modern Vauxhall diesels are very very unreliable. Designed by a committee lol.

[@chip1pan]

Very good all new narratives rob, we can now all crack on with the wangs and waffles. Just gets better with time

[@brianallen858]

Good luck with the Figaro guy's 👍👍

[@DavidSuttoninSpain]

Another headache for you boys Wish I could help but being an armchair mechanic I could not fix a drink for myself lol good luck.

[@blowduke]

Sometimes you can disable the stop start system.sounds like it’s playing up .

[@elmo1324]

We done that with are mini is easy 😌

[@Unknown24182]

My mate had 1 of these, Had to use Easy Start to get it going, But once it was Warm.. it fired up straight away ☺️

[@TheKissarmy79]

I repaired a vivaro which had the loom rubbing on the radiator fins, repaired the wire, job done.

[@pkautorepairs2826]

I've had a loose connection on a wheel speed sensor throw up every light from abs to parking sensor to hill descent control, steering wheel position sensor all saying faults. Whats it reading on diagnostic computer? Even something as simple as the battery on its last legs with a stop start function can mess it up and need a new stop start battery. Anyway I know you two will sort it out 👍

[@bobbydwheelhouse]

Get the fault reader on it, see what is clear able and what isn’t. Could be immobiliser

[@sruk]

We did bud 👍

[@walthamwalker]

Great video guys looking forward to next installment

[@OfficialAdamPearson]

another brilliant vid! cant wait to see it on the road again