Croydon is my turf… and there’s P L E N T Y of bush rash in Croydon 🤣 Another great vid Rob and Chris 👍🏻
@edwardacton32422 жыл бұрын
I love it when Chris explaines why and how the faults occur and how it can be sorted.
@jaym13622 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, this evoque was definitely caused by the blocked DPF, when it gets blocked the exhaust gasses can’t escape so it pretty much grenades it self, very common on these cars since people just drive it locally and don’t drive it for long distance, so the main cause is the blocked dpf causing the engine to explode unfortunately
@AutomotiveEvangelist2 жыл бұрын
So, while you have bigger fish to fry for some time on this one, once you get the engine sorted you'll need to clear those DPF faults before you can do anything with it. On JLR cars, you DON'T need to remove the DPF to clean them. You can inject DPF cleaner (I like Wynn's Off Car DPF cleaner - it comes in 5L jugs) through the differential pressure sensor inlet valve. I use a modified garden sprayer and inject about 1.5L. Let it sit for about 30-60 minutes, then start the car and let the engine heat flush the fluid out the exhaust (it will product lots of white smoke.) Take it for a drive and use your Autel to force a regeneration out on the motorway. Once you return from that drive, you'll still have the red DPF clogged message on the dash. You again plug in your Autel and use the Hot Function for DPF/SCR to do a DPF replacement. You don't really replace the DPF, you just tell the car that you did it using the Autel. Once you've done this, the DPF will be clean and the message and the check engine light will disappear. If you have any questions about the process, reach out to me and I'll be happy to walk you through the process, been there several times with my Range Rover before I figured out what was causing the car to fail to regen in the first place (it was a bad throttle....) There is a great channel on KZbin called O'Rileys Mobile Mechanics and they have many videos showing how it's done on this specific vehicle.
@Roverturbo2 жыл бұрын
Good write up, 👍
@kieranricko062 жыл бұрын
Apparently its common problem when the dpf is blocked it somehow takes the engine out with it if not fixed straight away possibly puts pressure on the engine as I know of 4 that have happened the exact same way dpf problem lead to chain problem but hopefully its a straight forward job and not to much pocket damage 👍👍👍
@MrButtonpresser2 жыл бұрын
Previous keeper is well shot of that one. Mind you, it should make for a great video series for us.
@bastogne3152 жыл бұрын
Rob I got my hair cut just like yours.... didn't even ask...guy just did it..unreal! I'm starting to buy white sneakers and trackie bottoms. You've created a vortex 😍
@itsmephil22552 жыл бұрын
Rob Clone#1 😄
@stephenricketts77642 жыл бұрын
Peaky Blinders?
@symonsugden13512 жыл бұрын
Followed you since your ferrari days Rob &Chris.Preferred how you used to work on the one car till it was finished instead of having many projects. Thanks for entertaining me over the years
@ConnorA212 жыл бұрын
It's still a cracking motor Rob, not my cupa tea, but definitely worth fixing, definitely don't rush your self to fix it, plenty of great content with these other motors you both have, hopefully it is semi easy to fix thought, have a lovely week mate!
@monitoringstar2 жыл бұрын
And that ladies and gentlemen is why my Ingenium engined XF has an extended warranty!
@jamesrobinson28972 жыл бұрын
I understand that the ingenium engines have an oil dilution issue due to dpf problems. The oil dilution leads to stretched timing chains. I fixed one over lockdown. I’d recommend recon engine but you guys know what you doing better than me. Good luck gents
@stewills97112 жыл бұрын
Got a horrible feeling you have been had off on this one fellas. Think they knew what the problem was.
@electroid81192 жыл бұрын
Yeah I suspect so too
@letsdoitnow1212 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, they wanted another £800 as they had to strip the engine down to find the fault and would have explained why.
@stewills97112 жыл бұрын
@@letsdoitnow121 100% that £800 was to pull the engine and see what was knackered. I know Rob and Chris are honest, straight up blokes and wont let on their feelings. But I know they must feel the same. Just hope they still get a beer out of it once done
@TevjaWeston2 жыл бұрын
Rob you need to talk to Lee at Barum Engines, would be great to see a collaboration between you guys. Cant wait to watch this one 👌🏼
@roberthampton64382 жыл бұрын
Certainly a brave man taking on a Range Rover non runner. Bad rep for electrical problems costs an arm and two legs to replace modules
@michaelminers26122 жыл бұрын
Years ago, our mk 3 cortina cam belt broke, because of the inset valves it's just new belt retime and vroom 👍 Mike
@rthomasbox2 жыл бұрын
Been running around with the dpf light on for weeks. Thinking, well it drives ok. Then bang
@adamr50012 жыл бұрын
The JLR Ingenium diesels are absolute dogs, no end of issues with them, especially the chains stretching/snapping.
@Senrab462 жыл бұрын
You may be surprised by the lady's description of events but my Insignia CDTi did a similar thing. Out shopping in the morning no issues. Had lunch and as I set off for an hospital appointment the car failed to start. After my usual garage failed to diagnose problem I found a Vauxmaster technician willing to take on the task. Turned out the crankshaft pulley woodruff key had failed causing damage to exhaust camshaft ie snapped! The had done 110,000miles at the time and after Andre rebuilt the engine she has just passed another Mot with 131,000miles and going strong! Great channel and look forward to watching more 👍
@leonthegreat63392 жыл бұрын
Chris's face when he found the shrapnel 🤣🤣
@Jimmiburn2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how you two picked up the problem, but the garage needed another £800 to come up with a diagnosis 🤣
@Dreamweaver7872 жыл бұрын
I tried T-cut on my bush rash, but it failed to remove the rash but was super smooth😊Great as always fellas.
@thefamilyrobbo2 жыл бұрын
Ouch. I never saw that coming. Moral: Don't buy a diesel for the school run. Cheaper to teach your kids to walk - though maybe not in Croydon 😄
@craigelmer85662 жыл бұрын
😆 Chris is definitely the sensible one... Rob " let's get straight into it 😂 love the enthusiasm
@martinaskham2 жыл бұрын
🤣 loving Chris face when he finds coins ...classic
@ianbeale25272 жыл бұрын
As a "Dyed in the Wool" Land Rover owner for the last 30years, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. The 2 litre Ingenium timing components are made of weak materials that cause the chains to stretch and snap. However, I doubt very much there was absolutely no symptoms before it did let go and that it was "fine" when she turned it off ! If I were going for a first generation diesel Evoque, I'd be after a 2.2 Sd4 190hp engine. Fairly bullet proof ! ISTR that you can get an uprated chain for the Ingenium engine, but not being an Evoque or Disco Sport guy, I'm not 100% sure whether all new chains are of the uprated type. The 2.2 Td4 and subsequent Sd4 engines are actually PSA Peugeot Citroen engines and Ford's TDCI Duratorque engines are also Peugeot engines.
@sruk2 жыл бұрын
Iv had 2 2.2 Evoque’s
@ianbeale25272 жыл бұрын
@@sruk I did fancy a 3 door Evoque but the other half put a stop to that - she knew I'd put a roll cage in it - like I did with all my 3 door Freelander 1's I've owned ! Currently running a heavily modified Freelander 2 with the rarer 3.2 straight 6 Volvo petrol engine. Looking forward to the next episode. I'm sure you'll make it go as good as new. But sort out the dpf, as they're notorious for causing a world of pain with oil dilution. Give that dipstick a sniff for diesel ! The biggest cause of dpf problems in the Land Rovers is short journeys where the dpf doesn't get hot enough to burn off all the shite and eventually clogs up. But, I'm sure you guys already know this so I'm preaching to the choir !
@Scotty-UK2 жыл бұрын
My cousins machine shop has these in all the time , cheap crap materials used like most of the Jlr stuff nowadays, I’d be very very surprised it was turned off first before it let go as they rattle for a bit then let go. You’d be amazed how many are having DPF deletes as they cannot be seen on many cars/vans etc, the tuner guys up the midlands are doing hundreds and still passing MOTS regardless of being illegal, people getting more mpg and no hassle anymore out weighs the risk in these times.
@SJR3132 жыл бұрын
Variety is the spice of life and what keeps me glued to your channel! Intrigued to see what happens next 👍
@johnchincotta1qwdb152 жыл бұрын
Another cracking video gents. Short runs on diesel cars can potentially clog up your DPF filter due to accumulation of soot.Broken timing chain ,is another more serious issue. I hope that the engine damage is minimal .Wish you luck.
@byeckfella2 жыл бұрын
Blimey, £800 to find out what you guys found out in half an hour! Crazy prices.
@TheDaf95xf2 жыл бұрын
Evening Guys. How disappointing ☹️ But that’s what salvage rebuilds is all about 🤩 Just listening to Chris talking about the problem is priceless 😄 I really hope you take this one apart for us all 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@steveegginton5352 жыл бұрын
As other have said the Ingenium engine has a reputation for stretching chains - JLR should have done a recall but didn't! I have read that in 2019 JLR did a modification to the engine that can be retro fitted to earlier cars - think this one will need some research - owners forums might be good.
@KarlKKC2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought for blocked DPF Filters, Go to any motor Factors and buy a Wyns 5liter Off Car DPF cleaner. Its about £40 with VAT. cap the end of dpf and fill it up with the fluid and leave over night. The stuff is magic i sell bolt loads of them.😀
@ConnorA212 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see a video with Chris truck getting that dpf cleaned
@matthewc.4192 жыл бұрын
I agree .....my mates has gone on his vw caddy
@BlackLung9112 жыл бұрын
Chris finding treasure in the cubby is funny. 😃😃
@midlandt42492 жыл бұрын
It needs a brand-new second hand battery in that!!
@thomasfrancis57472 жыл бұрын
DPF could be a second issue if the owner has been doing runs to a school only just around the corner. Agree that getting Phoenix to strip/rebuild it, while being videoed, is the best way forward - good content and saves your time, also probably cheaper than buying a complete recon engine.
@hairy2482 жыл бұрын
Hi guys bad news on that but a little advise with the isuzu. Do a forced regeneration on it. But if it comes back on after a short distance take the dpf out and blow it out with a hairline dont use chemical or jetwash . Once blown out you can fit the dpf in reverse as it is same fitting which will help you out more.oh and replace the bolts as they will snap. Ps even with a blocked dpf engines will still start but cut out straight away
@camshopland21652 жыл бұрын
I wish some major high end company that do high end electronics would sponsor you some lairy microphones then we could hear you properly
@Bootneck-RMC2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that two guy's who freely admit to not having enough experience with this engine can more or less diagnose what the problem is and yet a so called specialist wanted more cash before they could figure out what was wrong. I believe that you two will have this up and running again in half the time that it would take that other place to do it. Another great video, thanks lads. 👍
@garygray46402 жыл бұрын
Oh dear I can see this car being an expensive repair.I have every confidence that you and Chris can turn the car around.👍🏻
@bastogne3152 жыл бұрын
Is like watching "Murder She Wrote"..so exciting figuring out what' went wrong. Brilliant stuff 🥰😍💙💛❣️☮️
@royeady8002 жыл бұрын
Love it when you get your mucking words fuddled loll
@redsidebiker2 жыл бұрын
5ltr of petrol and a box of swans is best for that!
@vespamorelli70902 жыл бұрын
Chris’ face when he saw the shrapnel 😂😂😂 you’re cruel Rob !!!
@MrCElk2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are optimistic about this one, I'd be gutted. Just shows again you really know what you are doing. Looking forward to the next installment.
@tomball842 жыл бұрын
Timing chains are really common on these Ingenium engines, even with low mileage and full JLR service history. I'm sure you've already done the Google searches and seen the astronomical prices JLR quote to change the chain before it fails. I could be wrong but I heard from someone else in the trade that the oil squirters block up due to the long service intervals and the chain eventually dries up and fails. Regarding the low battery alert on the dash, my XC60 of similiar age (and probably similar Ford based electrionics) shows the low battery alert when it goes to 11.95V. I've had the message appear 2-3 minutes of interior lights & radio after a full charge. I'm sure you'll make good money when it's all done and the rebuilt engine will actually be a selling point!
@Citroeniste2 жыл бұрын
I recently saw a statistic that said 11% of Range Rover owners keep them less than a year. Not sure how that compares with other makes but it seems quite high. But you guys can fix it and someone will buy it so all good 👍. Love my 2001 Discovery V8. It’s thirsty but easy to work on and easy to fix.
@philabrahams3832 жыл бұрын
If you can take the dpf filter and put it in a bucket of hot soapy water and leave it for about 24 hours and see what comes out.
@chrispop992 жыл бұрын
I watch all your videos, but fault diagnosis and engine repairs are my favourites.
@firesafety2 жыл бұрын
Hi,guys City diesel + Dpf = fuel dilution & premature component failures so also check the turbo before spending out on cams, valves and chain🤞🤩
@teatimetel1742 жыл бұрын
between robs tolly and some trools and chris's shrapnel you keep us well entertained.
@jamesbellis49492 жыл бұрын
Nice to see another North Wales Car on the Channel. Good old Conwy Land Rover. Good video guys
@chrisstyles46302 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how things can brake just by turning the engine over will be good to see what turns up in the investigation hopefully this one can be a rebuilt engine can't wait to see what you find 👍
@martinbeaumont11352 жыл бұрын
Sorry I spat my coffee out laughing when I saw Rob adding in all that spare change to the cup holder :D🤣
@jonathanellwood2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the investigation and you chaps doing the business! Cheers!
@sholamcgregor53402 жыл бұрын
Short journeys causes a blocked DPF, which causes oil dilution, which causes a stretched timing chain. It’s a well known problem for the Ingenium engined Evoque, which owners can prevent by doing regular motorway runs in sports mode to regen the Dpf, premium fuel and most importantly oil changes every 5k miles to stop oil dilution.
@scottlp23232 жыл бұрын
Love a bit of engine trouble. Nice bit of oily mechanic stuff for you guys. Can't wait for you to open it up and have my fingers crossed for you in anticipation. Good luck. :)
@paulgilliland29922 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a cracking repair job . Looking forward to this one .
@torquesteer26572 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see the engine being pulled apart chaps 👍🏻
@nickmitton73502 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the build on this one guys. Be good to see if just new cams and followers, chain etc gets it going without a complete rebuild. 😎👍
@colinw15912 жыл бұрын
Looks good gents and hopefully not too much damage. 👍
@byronmills59522 жыл бұрын
It must have been rattling it's brains out for a while before the chain finally let go. Whilst these engines are notorious for this issue - they do give you prior warning with the noise they make - looking forward to the repair.
@organiccold2 жыл бұрын
Chris and the change hahah. Before a engine with chain will have the same chain sometimes for ever, nowadays they last less than belts... The hydraulic tensioners that use oil pressure to keep the tension normally go in may cars as people don't service them or use cheap oil. The 1st version of Toyota Yaris suffered a lot with that.
@tonylawlor35032 жыл бұрын
What a very nice car, many thanks, sorted well done Rob and Chris
@fireykev2 жыл бұрын
Tools on your tolly , luv it, good luck guys , take advice before proceeding is the way forward
@normanstephens53912 жыл бұрын
Nice vehicles for, space, ride and comfort. That's about it. Everything else is a "Dog's Dinner" as the saying goes. See you both in the next one. 👍👍
@WoodyBoy19922 жыл бұрын
Been well and truly done over on this one rob :( shes had your trousers down smacked your arse and pulled them back up for you. I didnt believe the 'it wouldnt start when she got back into it' shes probably done what most women do (not all before some feminist has a go) and just ignore lights on the dash and blame everyone else. Youve been done well and truly over on this one.
@mcplindgren2 жыл бұрын
Another week, another broken Rangie 😅 never heard a good word about these Ingenium engines but it will be great to see a strip down and rebuild one of these so people get an idea of how easy it is and what to look for. Will be keeping an eye out for it when you get to it 🙂👍🏻
@williamdonly79662 жыл бұрын
No doubt you 2 will get that engine rebuilt !! What a good project !! See you in the next video!!!
@KevinJones-ye3vw2 жыл бұрын
Nice one lads ... Looking forward to seeing the outcome of the Land rover engine rebuild/repair . Keep em coming stay safe ...
@marksutton26222 жыл бұрын
The 2 litre ingenium engines are notorious for chain stretching then failure
@STANLIZ42 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant vid!! Dpf made sense, lives round the corner, short journeys etc. but chain snap!! Rare surely? Dvla have it as 15, but diag tool said 16
@Defendertek922 жыл бұрын
Landrover contributed towards our timing chain replacement on our DS about the same age. Shame it wasn’t seen before failure.
@goonermick77862 жыл бұрын
Now that’s what I’m talking about this is what this channel is all about Rob can’t wait for the future episode
@markallen74432 жыл бұрын
Nice buy,tongue tied Wednesday for you rob🤣🤣🤣
@stevebobojones2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Johnny and Rob,there is a recall on the MOT sheet on line , love the shrapnel joke ..
@TerrapinTrader2 жыл бұрын
I still have a dread of owning a British car- had mostly Citroens and the odd Renault. Land Rovers are great if you like fixing stuff every week. When your life depend on it- Toyota Land Cruisers get my vote. Good luck with it- you'd think it would be a safe engine........
@cabottaxi2 жыл бұрын
Get the bush rash fixed and it'll be all sorted.
@dehaviland76452 жыл бұрын
Timing chain used to mean bullet proof. I suppose modern materials are built to break.
@rhiantaylor34462 жыл бұрын
It was cheap 'cause there was something wrong with it after all but now at least you know what to fix. Should be able to re-use the short block so will still make a nice earner out of this.
@mib1502 жыл бұрын
Got a similar car similar age, 2.0 diesel Ingenium engine, mine has 38000, went into garage for other works and mechanic noticed timing chain noise. They are notorious for chain stretching & tensioners, mine was replaced under warranty
@paulf28982 жыл бұрын
he thought it was Christmas when he saw that shrapnel 😂 he couldn't get rid of you quick enough
@huwdavies66502 жыл бұрын
There are a few threads online about timing component failure and the consequences on the JLR Ingenium 2.0 Diesel engines.
@eddieMurphy111112 жыл бұрын
i really like what you do so many people just right vehicles off thanks for the video
@DingleyDell2 жыл бұрын
New t-shirt... "Let's grab the tolley and some trools" 😁
@martin541232 жыл бұрын
And a new intrigue begins for the dynamic duo, a great video and I am already looking forward to the next Evoque episode for our engine detectives😂.
@UncleMort2 жыл бұрын
On the bright side Chris gets a break from bodywork repairs
@skimmingstoness2 жыл бұрын
No idea why JLR called these Range Rover they cheapened the brand and did themselves no favours. Should have just called it a Land Rover Evoque and kept the RR name for the top model.
@andrewentwistle5152 жыл бұрын
What a lovely looking Evoque. I can't believe that it has such a low mileage for a 2015 car. I look forward to seeing the next episode on the Evoque.
@roryhazlie7532 жыл бұрын
That is the ingenium diesel engine which needs specialist tools for the timing chain setup and a specialist will charge 2,500 grand to do it in total. Coz I had a customer in with a jaguar xe with that diesel engine with an em light on for timing codes and it was rattling like a man with a hammer and told him to take into a specialist for the chain and that’s how much it cost him.if push comes to shove guys look for a second hand or recondition engine coz that might have done a lot of damage or not u don’t know till u strip it down
@MultiDavid1822 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the video of you two striping down the engine to find out what damage has been done 😮 Great video as always 👍🏼😁
@gwilthomas32542 жыл бұрын
The chain has definitely snapped because my dad bought one and there was a taping noise and the chain almost snapped but my dad had to take the engine out and had to pay £2,556 to fix it .
@simplysimon98682 жыл бұрын
Range Rovers 2nd most common habit on the back of a truck lol. Rob the shrapnel was priceless 😄👍 hopefully fixable guys.
@1mic32 жыл бұрын
As ever a joy to watch- cheers guys 👍👍👍👍
@tfairley11872 жыл бұрын
The loose change prank made me chuckle 😅 always happy to see a new upload guys! 🤙🏻
@49cchris2 жыл бұрын
The content never gets boring always something new to learn about! 🤔👍had a 205 gti 1.9 k reg in blue year's back payed 500quid had a bent valve try to fix it waste time as must had a hair line crack somewhere so in the end bought a secondhand head & slapped it on, with new water pump & tensioner should do that first place lol be interesting to see Chris removing the head, hope its a easy fix 🤞
@seancoleman85282 жыл бұрын
Another problem Another day but nothing seems to faze you guys looking forward to seeing you fix it