Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Cloaked: cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 1:05 - OpenAI board saga 18:31 - Ilya Sutskever 24:40 - Elon Musk lawsuit 34:32 - Sora 44:23 - GPT-4 55:32 - Memory & privacy 1:02:36 - Q* 1:06:12 - GPT-5 1:09:27 - $7 trillion of compute 1:17:35 - Google and Gemini 1:28:40 - Leap to GPT-5 1:32:24 - AGI 1:50:57 - Aliens

[@TheImprovNinjas]

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[@ItchyTrigahFingah]

The fact that these two still think consciousness isn’t something unique to life is laughable! You will never build general intelligence! You don’t even know what consciousness is!

[@ItchyTrigahFingah]

The fact that these two still think consciousness isn’t something unique to life is laughable! You will never build general intelligence! You don’t even know what consciousness is!

[@xzanman]

You forgot to timestamp the 132 ADs.

[@francescoambrosino1841]

Do you think that in 2035 with the advent of AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and ASI (Super Artificial Intelligence) they will introduce universal basic income!? a subsidy!? there will be free will!? an era of abundance will begin!? the intellectual and motor capabilities of robots have already surpassed the average human and before 2035 there is talk of them surpassing those of any human and then again those of any human combined! regarding both body and mind! answer me please...

[@admkhaled5552]

I think I speak for everybody when I say, get Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang on the podcast!

[@silotx]

The leatherman.

[@26101976bdm]

Hyperbole overload.

[@cbuchner1]

But I am afraid he might not talk a lot besides marketing material.

[@BarneyGumbl3]

​@@cbuchner1Lex asks very thoughtful and specific questions though, I have faith that Lex would be able to get a genuine conversation out of him

[@edum.6353]

Nvidia is literally powering chatgpt

[@eyannoronha831]

“Take me through the OpenAI board saga”. My boy Lex got straight to the point XD

[@mattmyers2624]

Let's take everything with a grain of salt until this goes through the court and all records are public. "Regurgitate me the propaganda narrative you came up with to save face while employees rallied behind you so they could get more than a $2 billion payout from a not-for-profit [and let's avoid speaking of your sister's many years of allegations of you sexually assaulting her for years as a child - where you seem desperate to attempt to maintain the head position of an organization that can AI generate realistic CSAM]."

[@hansadler6716]

Too bad Sam's reply was a whole lot of nothing.

[@zaphir162]

"Tell me how Blackrock totally didn't install stooges on your board of executives in order to secure powerful AI for their sentient killbots that will eventually come for us all"

[@danielblank6717]

And he said nothing.

[@rodolfogomez2322]

There's not much improv in these interviews and it's not like Sam didn't expect the questions. These are PR moves and Lex's Podcast, like many other platforms, get paid to allow them to expose their case.

[@dabbiking]

Lex is the only channel I check the length of the video thinking: "only" 2 hours? ❤

[@etomichelverny]

My Overoverovergod

[@Rareme530]

Try Dwarakesh too. Dude does a lot of research

[@erics7004]

Sammy has no time to waste.

[@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT]

1 hour at 2x speed 😉

[@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus]

Yeah nice seeing two Jewish robot talking

[@HouseMusicVirus]

I never thought I would say this but Lex looks more alive than his guest.

[@kaynewest6167]

Lex asks straight forward questions off a paper and gets zero answers, His podcast is taking about 3% of daily energy to maintain

[@Neo-i2go]

🤡

[@Shaunmcdonogh-shaunsurfing]

Would be great to see an up and coming interview with Ilya

[@apache937]

what did he see?

[@CYI3ERPUNK]

would be great to see proof that Ilya is still alive at all

[@astronut2925]

Week later of the ouster, Altman came out and Sutskever went in the humiliation cave.

[@Morskoy915]

With a tour over the nuclear facility

[@000Gua000]

@@Morskoy915 That "doesn't exist".

[@eamonshields2754]

This dude speaks like such a politician

[@jochennel]

talks 2 hours but only moves air and doesn't say anything - scary

[@esyjournal]

@@jochennel He actually said a lot , were you listening?

[@esyjournal]

People need to take their time and form their thoughts, he's not running a Burger joint

[@Timbo360]

@@esyjournalhe can say a lot, doesn’t mean it has substance. He said in a lot of words just in the beginning “AI/AGI is going to have a power struggle” without elaborating on it. Look more into Sam and the company lol.

[@manwithnewname]

​@@Timbo360how would you like him to elaborate on that? There's not much more to say without a crystal ball

[@xingzhexin8843]

1:09:22 “You're not the man you used to be, Sam." "Very different job now than what I used to have." I watched this part so many times and it still sends chills down my back. I listened to the 2 podcasts with Sam so many times and examined them in detail. In the first podcast, Sam's stance was "Look at the amount of pettiness among the "experts" when we started, now look where we are. We are going fast and going strong. Great accomplishments, huge milestones, bright future ahead." He was the guy defying all odds and proving everyone wrong by making something remarkable. The future was unknown, and in a dark cave, there was light. Now things have completely changed. By moving towards that light it becomes clear that AGI is not an IF but WHEN, and as things move forward at exponential speeds, we are racing toward that light we see, kicking and pulling on the people around us, and what's waiting for us at the destination? Would we run off a cliff without being able to stop? The level of certainty in his face and voice just 11 months ago that OpenAI would either make AGI or "not make AGI but still make humans super great", and the level of uncertainty we see today that "AGIs are coming any second and the world is not ready for it", is insane.

[@Kobe29261]

What was remarkable between then and now to me was his wisdom; his going on record to say essentially he'd at least hope to set aside his own need/desire for power in exchange for saftely. How fortuante for the world that someone like him is at the helm. I love Elon but its rather obvious that we cannot trust him with irreversible power buttons.

[@notokek]

Thank you for pointing out the timestamp I rewatched it several times. Got chills as well Really make you think how much one can be changed by many. It'll be an interesting movie to watch in 10 years

[@VejmR]

I don't understand, so you mean he became less certain about AGI?

[@brandedsniper49]

@@VejmR I take it to mean more certain it's on the horizon, less certain the uses will be worth the risk. I suspect Sam has a much better understanding of how even people he would have innately trusted can be swayed by the stress of power. That doesn't extrapolate optimistically to the development or potential uses of a tool as powerful as AGI.

[@xingzhexin8843]

​@@VejmR To put it simply, he has become certain that AGI will be here, most likely very soon, and now the work has changed from "Can we maybe create AGI?" to "What do we do with AGI to not ruin the world." It's the same with nukes. "How do we build a nuke?" is a scientific problem. He was Oppenheimer. After nukes were made it becomes a political game: "How do we leverage our nukes to gain advantage in world politics?" His identity is shifting or has already shifted from being a research scientist to a politician. That's my understanding of this line he said. Edit: I can't spell. Removed an extra "s".

[@vb8682]

Sam Altman would make a great politician! He talks a lot without actually saying anything.

[@Fungamingrobo]

as he should. a lot to learn for future business owners that want to succeed.

[@kaynewest6167]

Sam is under a microscope by world leaders . would you be screaming your blueprints or having friendly conversations with interviewers ?

[@jackxiao8140]

I think he answers pretty well and logically. Did you find it hard understanding him?

[@shane1067]

@@jackxiao8140 I agree, he's withholding information but its obvious he doesn't want/is allowed to say certain things, but the subjects he does touch on he's pretty insightful and informative.

[@mindlessgreen]

Yea. No truths or obvious lies or anything deep, profound or intelligent. He would make a great politician.

[@yousif4785]

This guy gives “The character who is on everyone’s good side, but actually turns out to be the villain” vibes

[@ArnoldSig]

I swear. Watch him closely he feels very emotionally dead and machivellian at the same time.

[@BarneyGumbl3]

Dude has a prepper bunker full of guns and years worth of food, tells you all you need to know about how he sees the future playing out

[@o-henry]

Dead-on. Him talking about how "painful" the board situation was for 20 min was hilarious. "But there was a lot of love too" It's like those amateurish horror stories on reddit about Skinwalkers imitating humans.

[@TrappedinaBrain]

Kinda like book littlefinger

[@vinyltherapy9410]

facts

[@bfr5621]

Two hours of information withholding.

[@nyahhbinghi]

yes

[@Prometheus70747]

Yeah at the moment all he's talking about is the company dynamics. It's quite boring.

[@yagoa]

oh the irony

[@chinmarin380]

Maybe because Lex spent the first 20 minutes badgering him about the OpenAI drama like a tabloid journalist

[@yagoa]

he was soft-balling the whole time though...@@chinmarin380

[@LaurentVioleau]

The amount of vocal fry is truly Elizabeth Holmes level.

[@hyennussquatch4597]

what is a vocal fry? i know only about french fry..

[@nyahhbinghi]

@@hyennussquatch4597 youtube it, bro

[@GizzyDillespee]

​@@hyennussquatch4597It's a meme that associates vocal raspiness with insincerity

[@Disastrous_Macaron]

Kim Kardashian 😂

[@cparksaffluent]

Yes. Really annoying lol

[@vicetwice]

Sometimes sam's pauses are so quite I keep checking my wifi connection

[@gracemuriuki6305]

🤣🤣

[@BestOfTate23]

How can someone so smart teach us so little after a 2 hour interview

[@pushkarbaral4064]

By being very diplomatic and careful not to offend anyone.

[@imaspacecreature]

​@@pushkarbaral4064You mean,* not to inform, I hope.

[@pushkarbaral4064]

yes @@imaspacecreature

[@pushkarbaral4064]

he was a pure soul when he started, and now the corporation has corrupted his soul, his mouth is tied. He spoke his heart , and served the world. Now he speaks his mind, and serves the devil. Probably oversimlifed and overstated. He is trying to save his soul. But the internal struggle is impossibly hard. @@imaspacecreature

[@matejhladky4460]

@@pushkarbaral4064So that's what the liberal mantra "right not to be offended" gets you. Everyone afraid to say anything about anything, so that fragile minds don't get upset.

[@anyu8109]

Lex asked all the right questions, but I remember nothing from Altman's answers after the interview completes.

[@GizzyDillespee]

He clearly said we have great people working on it, and there's a big group of very smart AI researchers, and I'm actually very happy that we're doing that, because we need to think more about these things, and we don't want to overestimate the risks, and moving towards the future, we still have much more to take care of.

[@tomgrachak]

You, my boy, have a long way to go if you think those were all the right questions

[@John-wf5if]

All part of the plan

[@thefamousdjx]

Sam isnt really that deep, he just happens to lead a top AI company. Discussions about other civilizations and simulations are always interesting but he was just dead quiet there. Elon and Andrej really answered those questions quite well with deep thought

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

It felt a lot that he can't say to much or don't want. Both about technical stuff and the drama. More about the vision of the future may have been easier to talk about.

[@risesrivastava]

Never thought Sora would create a Lex's Podcast

[@frankc.astle214]

we are so close to this being a reality…

[@vaibhavsati538]

@@frankc.astle214we're fked

[@etomichelverny]

My Overoverovergod

[@fiftyseventh]

😂😂😂😂

[@AumThrive]

I got exactly the same feeling, Lex's hand gestures, video quality. Perhaps perhaps not lol

[@karafogertey1764]

Lex you have so transcended any interview of Altmann and any interview about AI. You patiently, empatheticly asked and then let him search internally for his answers, his thinking - good or bad. Thank you sir.

[@KuchVinnie]

In the clip (57 Min) he totally avoided the question of tranparency and data privacy of user and started talking about his firing and tried to appeal emotionally. This guy is shrewd. how long is AWM19V opened to us?

[@WALLACE9009]

What??

[@goodgoyim9459]

They are both jewish. They see themselves as of a higher caste with in-built nepotism of extreme proportions.

[@throughtheendlessinertia1915]

Bot

[@Halalbeef007]

They are both Zionists. What did you expect from them?

[@xtr.7662]

Because it doesnt matter everything you use collects your info

[@CdeCiencia]

Extremely interesting. Thank you Lex

[@luiseduardo7ho]

Hola Marti 😅

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@numbercruncher6242 You mean, he says a lot, but tells nothing.

[@yahanaashaqua]

I clicked on this so fast I almost lost a finger 😂

[@janos1945]

y adiosss

[@ZygmuntaSmok-gx1rs]

Sure, if you like to listen to pure lies.

[@drewtabke3294]

Feels like he’s portraying a humble, sensitive persona when he may actually be an egomaniac with unbelievable power at his disposal. Didn’t learn much from this interview, but still engaging and important stuff watching Altman’s communication strategies.

[@mcbrite]

Yes! All I took from the entire board saga in the end: I was hopeful/positive for OpenAI before, now I'm scared and get a nefarious vibe I really don't like...

[@brandoneickert]

I very much agree. It seems like the main things we can learn from a podcast like this is how someone wants to be portrayed

[@danielr9112]

Exactly what I felt, you got it to the point

[@Matt-es1wn]

Don't tear something down just because you don't understand it. Do you actually understand why he makes you uncomfortable?

[@RoxanneAlexisHenry]

I think we may have to admit that we all learn far more from uncomfortable uncertainties than the pleasant echo chambers we understandably tend to like. Not to be unkind or to root for drama but I'm certainly curious about the giant reaction this guy's uneasiness generated.... Might be something worth taking a look at there... Examination of all parties (we viewers/commenters included) illuminates a lot about psychology and sociology. 😅

[@benstirling9324]

Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Jensen Huang and Bill Gates in one room with Lex hosting the discussion in a round table discussion would be insane and totally relevant. This would be the ultimate podcast.

[@doublevision5465]

I would not want to watch that on a full stomach nor an empty one for that matter. It would make my guts churn.

[@chirayudesai793]

@@doublevision5465don’t be so dramatic💀

[@mahadbahasaarab]

+Elon Musk :)

[@insane_neuralnet]

Add Ilya Sutskever and some engineers, I wanna watch the brain behind all this technology taking shit. Not just business head motherfuckers, LOL.

[@insane_neuralnet]

Add Ilya Sutskever and some engineers, I wanna watch the brain behind all this technology talking sh*t. Not just business head m0th3fuc*3rs, LOL.

[@jacobrogers2214]

Lex has gotten more assertive and I'm all here for it. Especially because he's well-informed so it's not just like typical media grandstanding.

[@LucidiaRising]

He wasn't very assertive with Netanyahu - I feel like his credibility in my eyes definitely took a hit with that choice of interview, he could have really asked some big questions but dropped the ball completely

[@rlstrength]

What do you mean more assertive. The first question about the board drama gets completely dodged and Lex just rolls with it :/

[@joelee4495]

Lex the robot's A I. Is learning to be more assertive. Soon he will go full Terminator.

[@LucidiaRising]

Of course, giving a platform to a man committing genocide was hardly the best idea to begin with lol

[@ModerateObserver]

True, except for his interactions with Elon Musk, where he turns into an excited puppy 😆

[@AhmedSaeed97]

I took nothing away from this interview

[@BarneyGumbl3]

​@gunzor8717Rogans feed is your average edgy 14 year olds I bet, gore, war, fights, cop shootings, and animal attacks

[@Alpha-Angel]

Then it's not your place i guess

[@Ravroid]

it's okay you couldn't keep up, go watch some tik toks or something

[@Gigaamped]

that’s impressive 🗿

[@strwz]

are all Sam answers missing Lex questions point, or is it just me?

[@ElektronicEscalation]

Yes, he did it the last podcast as well! Typical CEO behavior but Sam Altman really does it a lotttt

[@QuietEscapism]

Sam gives me manipulative liar vibes

[@vladimirleon2487]

After scrolling through quite a few comments I finally found this thread. I'm surprised more people aren't pointing this out. Yes, Altman gives CEO answers, but also... He's learned a "love" vibe too well, and I feel like he's using manipulative tactics constantly on top of that. I don't quite trust him. There are a couple short moments that I think are real, but there are more moments where it's hard to tell if he's honest at all... Certainly he reframes each question slightly to avoid much true detail...

[@tobyausneurobi]

When he said "I love Ilya" you could just sense that deep down he probably feels the exact opposite about him. People like Sam Altman are really really dangerous.

[@PeteQuad]

He runs a company and can't spill all their secrets to the competitors. Other than that I don't see anything disingenuous.

[@karafogertey1764]

My AI Agent. So his endgame becomes clear. I understand social phobias and fear of deep connection but he just revealed that he wants or is motivated by wanting a personal AI agent that will know literally everything about him and accept and help him - a feeling he wants from people in his life but has not had. This is a frightening motive for creating a “system” that could hold so much harm to human society and life. I didn’t expect to be so alarmed when starting this podcast. Lex has been amazing in this interview.

[@TheThriftShopSampler]

I'm effectively getting real altruistic Sam Bankman-Fried vibes off this guy.

[@sierrabianca]

@TheThriftShopSampler The chances altruism plays any role in what he does is essentially nil.

[@tristinyaeger9222]

If I'm recalling correctly Sam is or was part of the real altruist movement

[@aplfisher]

100%

[@TahoeRealm]

@@tristinyaeger9222 that's what you do when you want to hide in plain sight

[@cosalidra759]

We need Elon, Ilya, Max Tegmark and Sam in one room. Lex as moderator..Please.

[@alexdowlen9347]

Lex is spicy in this interview! I love the new pressure he’s putting on Sam to answer his questions. Hoping to more of this in future episodes.

[@tr0gd0sa]

he's such an elon cuck and i'm a fan of Lex

[@dusanbosnjakovic6588]

He's not really challenging. He's joking. Wish it was a bit harder questions.

[@SeCluDred]

there was no pressure, cmon :D

[@Tush1rG]

Yes being elons side

[@doyourownresearch7297]

@@dusanbosnjakovic6588 what kind of hard questions?

[@fateriddle14]

I love Lex poked from every angle trying to get Sam to talk about about the openAI drama, and all responded with deplomatic answers or redirections. But then he asked how Sam felt, his personal feeling through this whole drama, finally it cracked.

[@kaynewest6167]

Poked every angle ? He plays both sides while always choosing power over his feelings . Lex doesn’t have his own thoughts and sam isn’t here to play friends anymore

[@Amivit]

What timestamp?

[@bra1ndrain149]

@@kaynewest6167 I think Lex does indeed have his own thoughts and Sam has a lot of focus on him worldwide so he has to be diplomatic and reserved in every answer he gives, anything he says can cause significant issues or fears at least, so he has to be reserved

[@mewkatlol]

@@kaynewest6167 stroke victim argument

[@Xeler_AI]

I hate it when Lex tries too hard to act smart/high IQ/know-it-all, especially in front of experts. It seems heavily creepy. Please respect their intellectualism by not "acting" but being natural. For example, at 1:34:26 , I don't want to repeat myself, but Sam directly neglects upfront. It's like he holds a bachelor's degree in science but is discussing the topic "Rhinotillexomania" with a Nobel Prize winner, patent holder, and agreeing with him as if he knows all of it. ChatGPT's reply to Lex: "Let's not beat around the bush here. Don't try to mask your lack of knowledge with pseudo-profundity. Your attempt at portraying yourself as a sage thinker falls flat. ChatGPT-10 won't be some mystical, singular entity born from your momentary contemplation. It will be the result of painstaking research, development, and expertise-things you clearly lack. So spare us the theatrics and stick to the facts."

[@KungFuChess]

Sam Altman gives me super villain vibes

[@ShrimpyWilliams]

Wait until you hear about the theory that he is actually trying to take over the world

[@jovangaltic]

Yeah, dude is creepy...

[@paulm3969]

I think it's just his generation. Uninspired, boring and just out there fulfilling the captain of industries dream. Automating economic output at all costs. Nothing really exciting or imaginative about it. Maybe the machine will produce something exciting... almost like a script being followed.

[@Alicedoesart]

@@paulm3969 that’s a pretty profound take. Thank you.

[@tomgrachak]

That's just because he's so much smarter than you.

[@jaysonp9426]

Everytime I watch Altman I trust him less and less

[@keenynthewise]

it’s funny because every new interview he has gotten more powerful, either he is becoming more and more smug or more and more corrupted by such power.

[@chronicles8324]

pointless interview and you can tell Lex knows it with his sarcastic jokes late on. Altman answers in CEO form. There was some better responses late on but the first hour of the interview was just a waste of time.

[@tomgrachak]

I hope he won't see your comment, cuz that would just be devastating for him

[@Koryogden]

Everytime I read a comment like this, I think most people are shitty

[@christoffer6527]

We need Elon, Lex, Sam and Zuckerberg in the same room next episode. we demand it

[@JackJackson-NBN]

😮

[@6jot]

​@@SuperYogagirlElon is much cooler than all of them combined. You must be very woke to harbor such intense hatred towards him.

[@dontwannabefound]

Hahaha that would be so awesome omg

[@a.v.5078]

That will be an Alien slasher movie.

[@vicc6790]

@@SuperYogagirl not everyone has a weird hate boner for Elon like you, Elon would be my number 1 guest on that list of names. By far.

[@GoGo-c7x]

Sam i watch a lot interviews from you I'm literally obsessed!!!

[@damaks100]

His voice is like an itch on my brain I can't scratch

[@TheIronpusher]

On the cusp of AGI, the doorsteps to absolute power stands Sa-ah-ah-am. Seriously though, we are really going to let this vocal fry communicating robot take over the world?

[@ultrasound1459]

​@@TheIronpusher🤡

[@darylallen2485]

😂 Not sure if thats a compliment or insult🤣

[@ragehealer834]

​@@darylallen2485what about that would be a compliment

[@nn4151]

It’s called vocal fry I think its common in San Francisco people

[@arunasm11]

The most interesting thing about this interview is how many people think it's a great interview.

[@Cusey]

that's every Lex podcast

[@egor.okhterov]

Not a lot

[@allanshpeley4284]

What problem did you have with the interview?

[@koalalala3939]

That's interesting. I have to think about that.

[@galex2000]

a lot - like… more than 3?

[@whitetuxedo7075]

Sam: Our goal is not to have shock updates to the world. Lex: What is Qstar? Sam: We're not ready to talk about that...

[@carlosfelipemirandaarrau9939]

His ability to speak without saying nothing is unparalleled.

[@6410601]

the vocal fry torments me

[@ihbrzmkqushzavojtr72mw5pqf6]

Aaaahhh I hate it so much😡

[@hailandfire1822]

Sexually tormenting?

[@imtryingtodrawhere4280]

It makes me feel claustrophobic 😭

[@tripik426]

The fact that this is the only thing you take away from this video speaks a lot of your intelligence

[@cin8films]

I can't handle it, it's too annoying!

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

Lex is a force of nature. Not only does he get the most influential guests but it also seems like the guests seek him out and it is just as important for them to be on with Lex. Amazing journey, congratulations Lex, you are awesome!

[@6Sparx9]

Thanks, other O'Keefe.

[@bbmatfreddy]

Of course, after all Lex does not ask any difficult or important questions. The guests basically promote themselves, and I also feel Lex prepared very poorly for this interview. No in-detail questions, just layups and easy way outs...not a satisfying and value added experience. I learned nothing new that I did not already know.

[@uSnatchios]

The only weakness Lex has, I'd agree. His style is incredibly non-combative@@bbmatfreddy

[@Astra2]

@@bbmatfreddy He's not a reporter. His aim isn't to dig up dirt on his guest, it's to let them speak and give insights into their own knowledge/wisdom. If you think his questions were too surface level, then that's a valid argument.

[@bbmatfreddy]

@@Astra2 he takes on the function as investigative journalist. In that he does a pretty poor job. Not sure what else his purpose in such interview would be. Altman could as well have just used a Sora bot to ask easy questions that make him come out on top of everything. For example, why did Lex not press harder on the opensource issue. Letting Altman simply say "I don't even know what this lawsuit is about" is as disingenuous and dishonest as it gets. OpenAI not being open at all. Letting tons of outsiders contribute for free, for Elon to invest millions, and then shutting the whole thing down and distributing unheard sums to friends and family, aka employees. Really? Lex had nothing to ask about that? Or the issue of Sora being trained on unlicensed content. Whatever one's position on this may be, it's an important issue worth many upcoming lawsuits. I stand by my stance, one of Lex's worst conversations and interviews and a great chance wasted to get to the bottom of many very important topics.

[@stefanagriko1884]

"I personally hate lawsuits" what a great insight

[@lukeskydropper]

shill

[@Fisj]

ofc. They use all the data available on the internet that's not theirs. Stronger case to put forward on podcasts etc. that you don't like lawsuits.

[@rasn]

sam seems very untrusting of lex so far lol. (I'm only 30 mins in so hopefully changes)

[@papaspooks8531]

really wish there were more altman interviews elsewhere so i don't have to listen to lex

[@rnambala]

@@rasnwell given that Lex is Elon’s friend…that checks out with Sam being sued by Lex’s friend

[@yoyo_Warrior]

Sam Altman is the AGI that openAI created

[@Nightclub20xx]

Lex been having a good variety of interviews this year love it

[@bookofbrah]

Bro its crazy, so many good/interesting/extremely relevant guests! Just love his podcasts

[@Scout555]

This IS AGI answering the questions.

[@lethargic_cow]

Exactly

[@DCC72]

Hahaaaa

[@ikotsus2448]

The fact that he feels justified because his paid mercenaries supported him is all I need to know. Trusting private companies to race towards AGI is the biggest joke I have heard in my entire life.

[@DriplessShrimp]

The bigger joke would be trusting our government to do it

[@ikotsus2448]

@@DriplessShrimp Global consortium with heavy oversight and regulations is the only way IMO.

[@DriplessShrimp]

@@ikotsus2448 Sounds good. Im just too black pilled to believe any higher ups actually care about humanity. The covid craziness definitely opened my eyes to what people will do to control others

[@ConstantinKogan]

Thank you for this interview 🫶🏻

[@xan590]

any chance you will get Ilya again? if possible would be great to hear both sides of the saga

[@nonotreallythx]

While I'd love to hear from him, you generally have to hear one side of the saga before you can hear both sides. And so far, we've heard no sides, just some emotional responses to it.

[@citizenblue]

I think Ilya is hanging out somewhere with Kate Middleton

[@neociber24]

We need to start searching on nuclear facilities

[@executivelifehacks6747]

I find Ilya to be the most interesting and informative AI persona, definitely want to see more of him.

[@steviemac1737]

Tbh I don't want to hear the saga from Ilya, I want to hear his insights and wisdom on AI.

[@Landgraf43]

Sam altman is great at speaking alot of words without saying anything. He would make a great politician.

[@galaxybrainkid1222]

Exactly. Nothing was really said during the whole "OpenAI Board Saga"

[@PeteQuad]

I think the problem is there really isn't a whole lot to say beyond what's already been covered.

[@1x93cm]

Sam Altman -*TRUST ME BRO*

[@Koryogden]

Too bad you can't see the nuances

[@1x93cm]

@@KoryogdenToo bad you can't see the obvious.

[@Chris-se3nc]

Sam: throws shade at Elon Lex: Don’t bad mouth my friend.

[@Valeriimakovetskii]

- Are you training Sora on other peoples' IP? - I think people who created valuable content should be compensated - ok, thank you for answering This is what this conversation looks like in a short form. Thank you Lex, very insightful

[@doyourownresearch7297]

i dont care if it is trained on other peoples IP

[@BinaryDood]

​@@doyourownresearch7297say that to me when your face is being used for "bank robbing attempt 176". Allowing it to use your most private data in something that can so actively harm you is a terrible precedent. You are inviting the most powerful digital panopticon.

[@Rugg-qk4pl]

@@doyourownresearch7297 You don't care about theft or intellectual property. Cool.

[@itscaptainterry]

​@@doyourownresearch7297guess you don't plan to create anything of value in your lifetime then

[@MU.200]

If the data and models etc. were all open source and not for profit I think it would be fine.

[@maxbarno]

Lex first question "Take me through the OpenAI board saga". *Sam Altman* - I had the feels and stuff. Way to answer the question....

[@BuildItFixItDIY]

EXACTLY! He talks and talks but conveys nothing! = nefarious things happening.

[@MrSeanman30]

Sounds like Mark Zuckerberg when being asked questions from congress

[@rlstrength]

Unfortunate Lex didn't double down on the question and just takes the evasive stuff and moves on

[@matejhladky4460]

@@MrSeanman30You mean like the question what data types they store? Or when if a guy walks across the room with an iPhone, does Google see that? Oh wait, that was Sundar. yeah, i'd be as confused as they were.

[@indiablackwell]

“For a second I felt like a human being, and I never want to feel that again”

[@jasonphillips3817]

Yawn. These talks where the guest is political and performing are so boring. This guy's true opinions on any question regarding his company is locked behind 10,000 NDAs. He can't give anything away, and will only say things that will increase funding and sales.

[@takethestreetcar2]

So true 😂

[@rickhunter1454]

Like any major company CEO. It’s still fun to watch

[@jamesrmore]

So what questions would you want to ask? With some patience they both reveal some interesting stuff about the projects. Yes Microsoft is paying for a lot of compute, but as they discussed it’s about balance of power. Again what questions are you looking for?

[@DotCSV]

1:03:13 - Qué es Q* y avances más graduales o abruptos, GPT-5. 1:28:38 - Mejoras de GPT-4 a GPT-5 0:44:23 - GPT-4 kind of sucks... 0:47:46 - ChatGPT como interfaz y momento clave. 1:00:30 - Pensar rápido, pensar lento.

[@sapereaude155]

Gracias Dot! Estuve en tu directo

[@hypehuey6747]

merci

[@impc8347]

Lex is basically a really awesome prompt machine! Thanks for this interview.

[@jakubjezovic]

Lovely to see Sam from ClosedAI

[@scififan698]

Interesting how he avoided the question about why Ilya thought he needed to go, isn't it?

[@LuguClips]

I had to check my phone every time Sam pauses thinking an Ad is popping up, but bro is actually thinking not to mess things up 😂

[@BarneyGumbl3]

Same my airpods have been playing up and turning off and I keep turning them off trying to turn them on

[@Koryogden]

Yeah, unfortunately he is anxious. And sadly, people are like suspicious because they can't comprehend human emotion

[@lawrencemurphy127]

THIS GUY IS A WEASAL.

[@Fungamingrobo]

Well. He runs the hottest shiet in the tech industry. There's big money from big players involved.. i'd be veeeery careful too sitting at the top of a 100 billion $ company 😂. You too

[@J35Y1]

​@blaaaaaaaaahify these randos cant understand, theyre just content consumers.

[@Brandon_Xross]

This isn’t how you have a meaningful conversation with someone. Keep in mind, this is a two-hour interview, and it seems pretty clear that Sam realized within the first few minutes that this wasn’t how he wanted to spend his time. You can tell from the way he engages that he’s navigating an environment that doesn’t align with the depth or direction he was probably expecting. Conversations, especially around complex topics like AI, require mutual respect, thoughtful engagement, and a willingness to explore ideas collaboratively.

[@adventurebonnie4808]

I never thought I’d see Lex interview the founder of Skynet.

[@mikaelbohman6694]

Lex Luthor vs Miles Dyson

[@thegodofmoneymaking]

He isn’t the founder though. He was just a PR guy

[@simple-Earthling]

At least we got a good Lex interview before he handed the world unwittingly to the demon he has no idea exist ruling the world. Sad dystopia he is rushing us off to as Bill Gates 2.0, surprising Altman sees no issues with Bills insane control of humanity, down to owning patent rights for organic seeds.

[@NathansHVAC]

​. Sam is lead developer and picked the team

[@Zadrigo]

He is Skynet's marketing guy, neither founder nor tech guy.

[@pinnacle4616]

If you listen closely at 1:11:56 when Sam finishes saying Nuclear Fusion, his robotic parts make a glitchy sound

[@cschenonep]

🤣

[@christinapapaioannou4357]

🤣🤣🤣

[@bokatbokat6470]

😂😂😂

[@usefulprogrammer9880]

This conversation, besides Sam’s comments on the board movements, largely mimic that which took place last year. I think these models have exceeded Sam’s technical depth. And I think the closed source, for profit business plan, Open AI has adapted to prevents lower level personnel from speaking to the challenges they are dealing with day to day, that the greater community might enjoy and derive real value from. This felt so high level that I could conceive it being synthetically generated.

[@DeadRyGuy]

Well said. A lot of comments noting they don't trust Sam/get bad "vibes" from him. Really all I'm picking up on are very calculated, non-inflammatory responses amounting to very little.

[@Chibabachacho]

This is exactly how I felt. Initially I felt like Lex was trying to be more technical but the guy sounded like a software salesman who doesn’t want to get deeper. Had to google his background again cause I was very surprised

[@usefulprogrammer9880]

@@DeadRyGuy and to a certain extent you have to expect corporate speak from a guy in his position. Because the valuation correlates with his sentiments. But this product category is far more nuanced, if I was a shareholder I’d expect a lot more technical depth.

[@usefulprogrammer9880]

@@Chibabachacho Lex has interviewed Open AI’s real CTO Ilya Sutskever, albeit years ago, and years before they even had a product. I have no idea who this Mira Murati is claiming to be CTO but in interviews she’s somehow more inept than Sam. I believe she’s likely a token figurehead. The interview with Ilya was adequately technical, but he’s been radio silent since, almost as if he’s being intentionally silenced. I can’t make sense of much of this company, but as someone in the space, I am really curious to see how this plays out for them.

[@ryzikx]

@@usefulprogrammer9880ilya is definitely hostage in that nuclear bunker 😂😂

[@billhuang8778]

The Q-star thing is really interesting here. The fact that OpenAI is so quiet about it says a lot about it as Lex pointed out, I think that Q-star is indeed a new form of fine-tuning of GPT whose performance is so astounding that even OpenAI can not explain.

[@hmind9836]

Dude, Lex absolutely killed it on this interview! Mixing up funny and calming questions with the hard ones and memeing just the right ammount to make Sam feel better.

[@N_g_er]

Do you think they conjugate in vinery

[@KevKlopper]

He could have asked what the the new market structure post AI will look like when Altman hinted at it. Imagine brushing over that world shifting fact.

[@luizmonad777]

@@KevKlopper its neofeudalism, isn't that obvious ? we're already seeing it since 2020

[@isaacsamuel6035]

Hey Sora, create a video with Lex Fridman interviewing Sam Altman for about 2 hours talking about AI and the state of the technology in society.

[@Neptunade]

Yeah and then break in and post it from Lex' account to confuse everybody? Get real

[@vladimirleon2487]

Wow Sora's getting good, hey make sure the NPC says very little while speaking a lot.

[@isaacsamuel6035]

@@Neptunade someone can’t take a joke. Sheeesh

[@owlmostdead9492]

In 5 years time, people will understand that Sam Altman is a Sam Conman.

[@CACOE_]

Haha good one

[@polyhedron4258]

Just like Sam Bankman

[@callsignprofessor]

Then right after Sam Delman

[@benjaminkemper5876]

I mean OpenAI delivered, and you can use it for free, what did he take from you? GPT4 is insane, have you not used any of the AI stuff yet? I mean Sam can seem a little deflective but the AI speaks for itself, so what point are you really making?

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@benjaminkemper5876 Because all of it is not AI, it's ML. AI = ML but ML != AI. It's deliberate false advertising, like vegan meat. Technically even ML e.g. "Machine Learning" is false advertising since it's not really "learning".

[@alekseyburrovets4747]

I love you all, Lex and Sam. Thank you for all the things that you do. Its very appreciated. Shalom.

[@TheKilkenny1967]

Thanks for asking most of the questions we put to you on LinkedIn Lex. Amazing podcast 👏

[@jonathangilliam875]

Yes but Sam didnt answer to them. What a useless Interview.

[@casper335631]

These recent episodes have been so great, I wasn't able keep up with the high amount of podcasts you released before. But the last couple of weeks I have been enjoying the heck out of every released podcast, thanks Lex for keeping to improve your process and make ever podcast better than the one before

[@JH-uu7jl]

"AI and surpise don't go well together." Good point made when talking about iterative releases.

[@machinesandthings7121]

And yet they are inexorably linked, and perhaps inevitable.

[@Raulikien]

*Proceeds to release ChatGPT in 2022* *Announces a state of the art video generation with SORA that blows the competition away* Yeah don't get me wrong, I think those are nice to raise awareness but they are not doing great in that department lol

[@allanshpeley4284]

​@@RaulikienI have a feeling this is iterative release. I think they have far more than they're putting out there, probably so we can adjust.

[@CarsonBoyd]

I love that he wants the board to be answerable to the whole world.

[@tootz1950]

You really believe that? He rarely answers in a straight manner. Like when he said it was going to be a total non-profit, and now it has a small percentage of non-profit. How about when Lex asked about security and Altman jumped in with a non sequitur and never answered that question either. Re-watch the interview and hear the politician in it.

[@CarsonBoyd]

Perhaps I have been fooled. It wouldn't be the first time. Thanks for the feedback. ​@@tootz1950

[@Toxin08]

I’m just waiting for the AI to get rid of Sam’s constant vocal fry.

[@Shnozzu]

I wish I had a vocal fry..

[@thelonewrangler1008]

Wtf is a vocal fry? Are you guys talking about how he sounds like a smoker?

[@Shnozzu]

@@thelonewrangler1008 it's like that deep rasp in the back of the throat kinda like if you have been sick or start to lose your voice or how you sound if you are exceedingly tired or just woke up.

[@MrBsehratmaannking]

​@@ekothesilent9456no one here is hating on him

[@zSion]

​@@ekothesilent9456yeah idk why people even care

[@SamSamSamSamSam]

Sam Altman gives me such a strange vibe. He's really unnerving.

[@soggybiscuit6098]

Dude is a sociapath, trust your gut

[@Fungamingrobo]

I get the same from Elon

[@ModerateObserver]

1:06:12 gotta love Lex's casual delivery 🤣

[@anabellarivolta]

1:06:30 "what's the way we release this thing", makes me think he refers to making Sam give honest first hand answers. I adore the dynamic that's happening. It really is about getting Sam to open up. But of course, it's hard.

[@anshjaiswal8377]

Thank you for releasing in the middle of my mid term exams now I can't skip

[@regicoco904]

Womp womp

[@saulm2007]

You'll probably learn more out of this 1.5 hours than any formal education.

[@balboa9439]

One advice from drop out student. Don't waste that time. If you have opportunity to study what you like then study hard. Easy to say.... I know... but DO IT! Focus on what is important. I believe in you :)

[@yt-sh]

come back to this shiny thing after your exams are done

[@FliesInMyEyes]

I’m so glad Lex brought up the “What did you see Ilya!?” meme 😂

[@glenh1369]

And the answer he got for it was verbal tossed salad.

[@martink6254]

I have bad vibes about Sam. Just very calculated about certain questions, I smell some dishonesty. Also seems he calls all the shots, is above the board and chairman.

[@FliesInMyEyes]

@MacroAcc the meme suggests Ilya saw AGI or something worrying and this caused him to vote to kick out Sam due to the gravity of what he saw

[@RoganClipVaultYT]

@MacroAccwhen altman got kicked out by the board, ilya sutskever who was a founding member and is the one driving most of the technical aspects of openai voted to kick altman out. The reason for that is unknown, which is what caused the meme. No one knows what happened at openai and what caused them to kick altman out, hence “what did ilya see (to make him want to kick altman out)”

[@nowithinkyouknowyourewrong8675]

It's pretty probably that Ilya agreed to a gag clause in the new report. So it's pretty slimey for Sam to say ask him. Dude you made him agree to a gag order, he can't answer publically.

[@dmitchel0820]

When Lex asked if Ilya was being held in a secret bunker and Sam seriously replied 'no' rather than taking it as the joke it was it was is pretty telling. Illya is obviously not in a bunker lol, but the fact that Sam took the accusation seriously, and didn't actually say what Ilya was up to seems to indicate there is some underlying truth.

[@michellemonet4358]

Yes. Sam didnt "get" Lexs humor😂😊

[@latentspace_fi]

Something went really badly between the two

[@jondor654]

Jest can be gisty ,

[@Bom-pff]

He didn't miss the joke. He's just not amused and wanted to move the conversation forward.

[@juicegod777]

@@Bom-pffthank you, someone here has a brain

[@disruptapps]

As a web developer and owner of my own LLC and former Intel employee, people need to understand what Big Tech is FORCING on humanity in the name of profits. AI is not for your benefit. The Internet of Things is not for your benefit. Automation is not for your benefit - its all about keeping semiconductor fabs churning and Big Tech in power and profits. Humanity got along just fine without EVERYHTING being forced on the internet, appified, SaaS'ed, blockchained....Big Tech is no better than junk food companies now and are now a detriment to society, not a benefit. Big Tech is no longer making any 'real' innovation - its just making gimmicks to sell to people and entrap them. I wish more people would listen to me.

[@bertbrecht7540]

Lex, you are providing me with such high quality and unbiased interviews with so many of the most important people in the world. I am grateful! Not sure how you get these guests but it must have something to do with you being so honest, selfless, curious and kind. If I could have only one KZbin channel, it would be yours.

[@erikosilacius]

Agreed! Bravo Lex!!!

[@godrilla5549]

Hey bot, make me a sammich. Let's go, hurry up 👏👏👏

[@dipf7705]

​@@godrilla5549right

[@foxyheart517]

If you like this, try Sam Harris if you haven't already

[@benhallo1553]

We are soooooo lucky Lex is alive

[@eyeamKurisu]

Can't believe he got the CEO of ClosedAI on the podcast

[@nathanbanks2354]

Twice.

[@Mopoppy]

He never failed to talk down about Elon whenever there's a chance

[@Mopoppy]

​@4l3dx have you seen how much money Elon funded in the early days?

[@gezld284]

Elon must is a doosh! If you can’t see that you are blind.

[@allanshpeley4284]

He did the opposite of talking down about Elon. He acknowledged that he's probably the greatest builder of all time.

[@parkercoleman8078]

@@4l3dx nah but when you throw all that money at a company and they completely change their ethics and goalposts then yeah, they deserve the lawsuits coming there way.

[@Fungamingrobo]

well he basically got asked multiple times, clown. he responded respectfully though

[@artemu78]

Nice lesson from Sam to speak for 2 hours not answering any question.

[@OMDAT]

Oh boy, looks like I'm going to listen to 2 hours of vocal fry again

[@feli___b]

I think he does it on purpose, it is very annoying. I'm unable to listen to this guy talking

[@OMDAT]

Yeah agree @@feli___b It feels so forced

[@elliotcrane]

He does slip out of it sometimes, which seems even more telling.

[@ciaranmckenna2819]

He totally changed the subject when the privacy and data issue came up. Like why won't tech CEO's just admit that using your data is the core part of their business model. @57:34

[@allanshpeley4284]

Wdym? He addressed it directly - user choice. Giving people the ability to opt out of sharing their data or having AI remember past conversations.

[@ciaranmckenna2819]

@@allanshpeley4284 But listen to Lex's rebuttle to his response, which is then followed swiftly be a change in subject.. The query isn't about "user choice", it's about total transparency of what "user choice" means, and what exactly companies are doing with your data outside of just improving your user experience / tailored advertizing..

[@GoGo-c7x]

I think I agree

[@bryan805]

Most hilarious part is Sam *somberly* recalling when Elon tweeted a silver medal at Jeff Bezos after surpassing him as the richest person in the world 🤣

[@brandonvincent8277]

Now have Ilya on for round 2

[@allanshpeley4284]

​@TheHeavenman88 Yeah but if enough people push for it, the more likely Lex will do the same. Then it's up to the guest.

[@petersmangalisongoma2013]

Sam keeps smiling as he speaks about the board that fired him and Elon. You can clearly see that he has gained lots of confidence and believes he's invincible to them at this stage

[@connormatthews522]

imo ultimately he sold out and with microsoft behind him he's pretty unstoppable

[@Fungamingrobo]

He kinda is

[@vikram.SumerSingh]

Love how calm Lex is even when Sam acts spicy!

[@stefanjohansson2373]

Mr Soya went spicy? Did I miss that? 😂

[@MisterB123]

Timestamps??? I'm VERY interested too see which moments you're referring to 😶

[@seenochasm7101]

Bro drops that with no timestamps ok lol

[@AmeurKhaldi]

Maybe he means this : 1:03:10

[@k.c.simonsen2]

You guys are nerds, no one was "spicy" at all in this interview lol he just seems to be so in love with these two that anything is interesting to him. @@seenochasm7101

[@elmorganou]

Evening lads, well, i've watched this twice now...with friends and family. Slightly concerned, as one should be, but this is indeed the world we live in. Thank you Lex for the platforme.🇫🇷🥂

[@thebestlutz]

Sam is so disconnected from reality that I don’t have words for it.

[@bigben42]

Pretty scary when a person like that has a lot of influence

[@moegreen3870]

@thebestlutz - it sounds like you are referring to many points of disconnect, which probably would be hard to list them all. if you were to choose just one, the most prominent or major point of disconnect, what would it be? i am very curious because i did not detect any, and that makes me wonder if i myself am disconnected too and somehow i dont know it lol so i hope very much that you will at least list one and hopefully many :p

[@samplastik13]

​@@moegreen3870i agree, some people just don't understand what Sam is talking about that's where it stems from

[@Fungamingrobo]

Is actally the opposite. Most of the people hyped by AI are disconnected from reality. Sam is just playing into the hype. He's a smart businessman

[@brandedsniper49]

The highlight of these interviews is when Sam's able to explore ideas and concepts he finds fascinating and optimistic. The tone of his voice gets lighter. Compared to the first interview, it seems like the questions this time around were more precise. There was a lot of "I can't measure instantaneous velocity" and "I can't speak for others" in the responses. Some find it evasive. I agree. But I definitely don't want the CEO of a company famous for LLMs to use language carelessly. If he hesitates to say something, better that than retract it later.

[@seeker_of_knowlage3568]

Yeah there is nothing wrong with being careful with words.

[@darkswan80]

I think he did all the things you'd expect a very skilled CEO to do, the way a skilled CEO would do them. He played his role very well in this interview and gave important hints on how he's running his company, for both the good and the bad.

[@okiedokie1238]

Shut up, bot!

[@AndarManik]

Sam Altman's rich guy aesthetic is much more refined than the Steve Job's rich guy aesthetic

[@Alicedoesart]

Agree. He’s perfected it.

[@hassanohm]

Absolutely fascinating discussion! Sam Altman’s insights into the recent events at OpenAI and the future of AGI are incredibly thought-provoking. It's refreshing to hear such candid reflections on leadership and the challenges of navigating the AI landscape. Looking forward to seeing how these developments unfold! Thanks, Lex, for another great episode!

[@motownmoneygang]

Say what you want but Sam Altman's voice crisp is worse than all the Kardashians combined

[@xer314]

getting this interview is a home run for not just you, but content creators in general. Interview exclusives like this are really the mark of a paradigm shift.

[@l-y-d-s]

This is simply public relations. Calm down 😂

[@EnzoFerenczyo]

One of the most inspiring and challenging podcasts I've ever listened to. There's a lot to digest, I'll have to re-watch it when I can give my full attention. I've been reading Sci-fi since I was in grade 7, lots of Asimov, Wyndham and Pournelle and Niven. It's interesting that a lot of what was in my childhood just considered flights of fantasy is now becoming fact.

[@paulm3969]

lol are you serious?

[@EnzoFerenczyo]

@@paulm3969 What's your point, you taking the piss? Being edgy?

[@guilesmart7486]

It's funny how his voice changes for a moment at 16:36 when he's not lying, for 3 seconds. Than immediately reverts back as soon as he realizes.

[@moegreen3870]

@guilesmart7486 - you are claiming you have the ability to read the minds of people in videos?

[@elliotcrane]

Happens quite a few times throughout. Can’t be sure about explicitly lying but those things are usually quite significant.

[@jbram07]

The timing of Lex and his team = bravo 👏👏👏

[@Leotique]

What do you mean by timing ? Also, I think they have know about some stuff for months, so not really timing, rather vip information.

[@rchergarrett]

@@Leotique Context clues friend.

[@Maioubi]

@@schmiggidy Why would anyone care about Grok? It's a 300b model outperformed by Mistral's 70b models. Only companies can run models that big so it's not even relevant as a toy. It's only function is to make Elon seem less of a hypocrite. But for that he should open source Tesla's self-driving AI.

[@AlleywayDave]

I watched the intro and the ego stroking was so strong that the video needs to be tagged adult. Turned it off. Not watching anymore of Sam Altman. Their API and site are slow and they are no longer the de facto leaders they are made out to be.

[@TrainerCTZ]

Sam, OpenAI's LLM has dramatically effected my life and my capabilities for the positive. Thank you for this most powerful tool.

[@harman76239]

This will be a fun podcast to watch 30 years from now.

[@jonathanlivingston7358]

AI will edit it. The victors re-write history their own version.

[@extendedlimits]

If there is a 30 years from now for our species, we seem pretty hell bent on destroying ourselves

[@pinkisforpimps]

It'll be like how we watch Bill Gates in the 80s and 90s

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

If the earth hasn’t been destroyed 😂

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

You need to start building up your social credit score now, or you won’t be allowed!