Sam Harris on Israel, Radical Islam, Trump, Taking Ecstasy, and more.

A special Comedy Cellar Live From The Table one-on-one interview with Sam Harris.
Note for those of you who are critical (and everyone else), my friend Hatem Gabr did a reply video in which he took issue with some of the comments about radical Islam: • Hatem Gabr Responds to...

[@azadehfarshidi]

Dear Sam, Please don't put Iran in the same basket with Syria or Afghanistan in terms of hopelessness. The rebuilding you mentioned is already happening in Iran. We started the Woman, Life, Freedom revolution against a religious government in the middle of a deeply religious region. We love Israelis. Most of us are not religious at all, and a big percentage of us even hate Islam.

[@leili2007]

Speak for yourself, Azadeh! I’m Iranian and I don’t love the genocidal State, neither does any freedom-loving Iranian.

[@DjangoDrango]

uncle sam

[@rennyskiathitis8178]

@azadehfarshidi, I really hope so. Iran before the revolution of the late 70's was so much better than the country now. Israel could be a great ally of Iran if it had a different government.

[@rennyskiathitis8178]

@@leili2007 If you support the current Iranian government you don't support Freedom. Israelis have more freedom in Israel than anyone in Iran. Women have equal rights in Israel, you can be openly gay and not fear for your life. You can be whatever religion you want, and you can openly criticize the government. Women can also where whatever the fuck they want, which means not covering there head.

[@rennyskiathitis8178]

@azadehfarshidi, as an American Jew, you give me hope. I would love to see Iran and Iran allies. The two countries could gain a lot from each other.

[@shyman3000]

"We should never assume people are bluffing when they want to eradicate a whole population" Thanks Sam! Good advice as always! Spot on!

[@faydalashqar]

Yes, and we are witnessing Israel as they are wiping out the Palestinians. What do you think about that?

[@lbs7774]

Clearly the one actually erradicating a whole population are the Israelis. From their Likud thesis to their current genocide.

[@mehdiz1052]

The joke is on you !

[@badomen9057]

That means we need to take Israel government seriously when they talk about ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians

[@fluz2222]

Isn't that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians?

[@torontolarrivee7965]

Not the funniest set I've seen at the Comedy Cellar

[@firefly9838]

Thats what is funny about it

[@michaelfriedberg6427]

37:39 "Martyrdom is the ultimate career opportunity" - Sam Harris. That's comedy gold.

[@mattrix4200]

Best deadpanned delivery since Steven Wright!

[@zaydevans2077]

the funniest bit is that he goes "the difference between israel and palestine is if the israeli's found out that one of their soldiers etc raped a palestinian woman or child etc they would prosecute them, thats the difference". When we have direct evidence that Israel literally when provided with this evidence of systematic sexual assualt that was being tracked by a group to protect woman and children in palestine, they shut this charity down calling it a terrorist organisation. Yet sam doesn't here about this, he hears about the claims of systematic rape as a weapon of war, the claims that have been proven false but he still says they're true and they the palestinians don't care and are totally ok with this. Its just a smear of a whole people with zero evidence to back it up, while having evidence the israeli's have raped palestinians in detention and sexuality assaulted them yet he 'hasn't heard" when it's an israeli in the wrong, and even if he does here he just assumes they're going about it in good faith.

[@markferguson7563]

Fifty-five years have passed since Enoch Powell warned that the culmination of drawing in unfettered numbers of non-Europeans and, MOREOVER, non-Christians, into European societies would lead to sociological mayhem. And this has certainly come to pass over the past 6 months, with Muslims organising mass pro-Palestinian, and anti-Israel rallies, in many major cities in Western nations. Five years after Powell presaged what was in store for European/Western nations with being swamped with immigrants from the Third World, Jean Raspail’s novel, ‘The Camp of the Saints’ was published. Raspail, duly predicted that France/Europe/Britain would be overrun with millions of culturally unassimilable interlopers from the Third World. But he also forecast that. “Bleeding-heart liberals would purposefully organise parties to fully assist asylum-seekers to safely reach their destinations.” (Incidentally, the American, George Lincoln Rockwell, preceded that duo by 5 and 10 years, respectively, with forewarning that North America would be overrun with millions and millions of interlopers from the Third World.) In 2024, there are about 25 million Muslims residing in a score of Western nations. In 1950, the number of Muslims living in Europe was about 4.3 million, most of whom were in Bosnia, and Herzegovina, and they were/are descendants of subjects from the Ottoman Empire. At present there are in excess of 16 million Muslims residing in Europe, and Britain. In 1950, the total number of Muslims residing in Canada, the US, Australia, and NZ, was 300,000. Whereas now it’s over 8.5 million. The gruesome reality of how dangerous Muslims are to Western nations first came to glaring prominence in London, on Saturday, November 4, 2023. For it was on this day, we witnessed a huge pro-Palestinian and, moreover, anti-Western rally occurring. It’s estimated that 300,000, pro-Palestinian protestors took part in this rally. In the ensuing 6 months in many major cities, and college campuses across Europe, Britain, the US/Canada, and Australia/NZ, we have witnessed a perpetual flurry of pro-Palestinian rallies. What this all irrefutably exposes is the innate danger that Muslims/Islam pose to the social cohesion of the host societies. Inevitably, what’s occurring in Gaza will inevitably engender a resurgence of Islamic terrorism occurring in Western nations. Here in Australia, there have been two instances of this occurring. One occasion was on April 24, in Wakley in Sydney, when a Muslim fundamentalist stabbed the bishop of an Assyrian church. The assailant did this, because the bishop had “defiled my prophet”. And the other instance was in Perth, on May 4, in the suburb of Willerton, when a 16-yo Australian convert to Islam, stabbed a passerby in the carpark of a shopping centre. The good news to report about that is the assailant is that he was eradicated from existence by a shell from a policeman’s gun. In the 16-year Reign of Terror stretching from Atocha on March 11, 2004, and not long after in London on July 7, 2005, and all the way through to the horrific murder of MP Sir David Amess, in July 2021, has culminated with Islamic funambulists slaughtering a total of 532 innocent people across Britain and western Europe. But, as we’re all fully aware of, there wasn’t one politician, of ANY of the governments or, opposition parties, in ANY of the societies that, endured these atrocious abominations who categorically condemned Islam/ Muslims for these heinous crimes. In Dublin on Nov 23, a riot ensued following on from when a teacher, and three young children were viciously assaulted with a knife, by an asylum-seeker from Algeria, who was a Muslim. Alas, as it was during the 17 year-long Reign of Terror it’s a certainty that, the treacherous political, and media elites, will steer completely away from unconditionally condemning Islam, and holding it unreservedly responsible for the mayhem that this religion has spawned. Instead, they will again perpetuate the line that it’s only a tiny minority of Muslims who would be fundamentalists. With respect to the two 16-yo youths who committed the attacks in Sydney and Perth, the official narrative to be invoked to down-play affairs will focus upon them being afflicted with mental issues. Rather, than calling out the real issue of them being motivated to kill someone, because they have been poisoned by rabid Islamic fundamentalism. The MSM, in whatever jurisdiction it might be in the Western world will duly avoid condemning those Muslims marching in rallies who are ardently calling for the obliteration of Israel and all Jews. But for anyone familiar with the prof the teachings of Islam, now that Muslims from an early age are taught that, anyone who does not submit to the teachings of Allah, must be eradicated. This chilling message was virulently expressed by a dozen imams in mosques across England, at the Friday prayers on Oct 27, when they vehemently called upon attendees that “unbelievers have to be wiped out”. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, in her book, Infidel: My Life, which was published in 2007, informs us that, as a child she was indoctrinated that “it’s the duty of all Muslims to either convert others to accept, and submit to Islam or, for them to be eradicated”. Again, this is indisputably proven with the hordes of protestors who have marched in the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel/anti-America rallies in Western countries, with them openly calling for a new intifada. So, with imams in Mosques in Britain, and also Australia, calling for “unbelievers to be wiped out” or, for Muslims to join an intifada, proves beyond any doubt that, they are totally incompatible with integrating into liberal Western cultures.

[@BarrySometimes]

Love Sam. However dear God, are we unable to ask him questions other than questions about Islam, Trump, & drugs? I think I've heard Sam answer the Islam, Trump, & drug questions over 500 billion times. Ask him something different, like did he ever date anyone while gallivanting the Himalayas? Did he ever fall down a mountain? Rumor has it Sam had shoulder length hair when in Nepal. While walking back & forth through the mountains, was he able to condition his hair? Did his thick curly hair become dreadlocked? These are questions no one has ever asked, & I want the answers.

[@lainas3603]

We should ask about his thoughts on free will

[@gwtunney]

I always liked sam, I don't care about his hygiene, hair style, eating habits, or dating life. Since circumstances around the world constantly change, alter, morph, or evolve moment to moment...I want his most recent response to those top subjects that produce the greatest world consequences. I don't need to know his favorite buffalo wing recipe.

[@BarrySometimes]

​@@gwtunney On a less frivolous note on my behalf, I want to know "his most recent response to those top subjects that produce the greatest world consequences" too. This isn't a false dilemma, there aren't two mutually exclusive options, both can be done. It's not one or the other. I’ve read every book Sam’s ever authored. I’ve read what would is likely be every article he’s ever authored that remains available on line. I’ve read his PHD thesis ‘The Science of Values’ (PubMed) over 40-ish times. I’ve corrected those who misrepresent his view hundreds of times over a period of 8 or so years, & I’ve listened to every Making Sense Podcast. It is true for me to say that Sam is my greatest intellectual hero, & I love him as a person, independent of his intellect, too. My point is, it’s wise for interviewers to keep things new & fresh. Especially given a) the nature of the internet, & b) how far reaching Sam’s knowledge & insights are. There’s a good chance that if a youtube interviewer were to clip a funny “short” of Sam talking about that time he fell down a mountain, or how dreadlocked his hair became, rather than clip his thoughts on Trump (which there are already many of), Sam’s reach & influence would be greater than it is - & it should be greater than it is because, to my mind, he is one of the best thinkers we have.

[@CP-nl2zb]

Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual. Sammy The Pseudo Harris.

[@BarrySometimes]

@@CP-nl2zb “Sammy The Pseudo Harris”, has become the non-harris fan equivalent of the christian “I’m offended”. Those with an IQ over 90 are waiting for you to either a) make a point, or b) at minimum, utter something original

[@mirapilates]

Lets see Sam Harris vs Norman Finkelstein.

[@00Julian00]

People have been asking for ages, but sam is scared. I don't know why.

[@noahjwhite]

That would be a waste of time. Finkelstein just makes shit up and then can’t defend his point. All he ever does is attack his opponents instead of their arguments.

[@KevinUchihaOG]

@@00Julian00 dont think he is "scared", he hasnt done a (formal) debate for over a decade. He is just not intersted in "debates" anymore, he has said he thinks they are most often pointless and doesnt convince anyone.

[@mirapilates]

@@KevinUchihaOG well Sam has these "discussions" with people like Jordan Peterson who talks about religion in a way contrary to Sam. No better way to see the validity of his arguments than to be challenged instead of just making assertions.

[@djx7109]

I watched Finklestein and all he had to offer were insults. He was embarassed by a streamer for showing his colors. Only 1 single digit brain cell people think Fonklestein is some kind of power house. He is embarassing!

[@amyhamilton5]

Sam has been incredibly encouraging for me personally. It’s felt hopeless here, and hearing one calm voice of reason in the midst of seeming insanity has given me hope.

[@Hands2HealNow]

Seriously you are admitting to wanting to be brainwashed into staying where you are too frightened to think for yourself. He and the host likely backed by war financiers are saying the same scripts as regime changers have always said and done... Entire groups are labeled as good and evil so you never have to feel your own feelings of complex humanity and the far more EVIL ARROGANCE of colonists, imperialists, monopolists, authoritative haters of your individual God Given Rights. Think again and remember your beliefs in compassion are more like people you know than the I'll will of resource rapists of corporate overlords.

[@ysaismartinez7618]

I've been in Tel-Aviv many times for business and in other parts of Israel a handful of times. At least Tel-Aviv, it's the among the most secular cities I've visited. They could care less about Judaism as a religion. I've also been in Jordan and the Palestinian territories. In all instances, you could have a hysteria-free conversation about the Israel-Palestinian conflict, which is almost impossible in America. In fact, the most sober assessments I have ever heard about the conflict came from a Jordanian bus driver in East Jerusalem, a random Jewish guy working at my hotel, and a Palestinian doctor in Bethlehem. Good luck finding that hysteria-free conversation in the halls of Harvard or Stanford or in Israel friendly media like The Daily Wire.

[@neelakan678]

I agree with Sam that religion clouds human thinking when it’s not pointed in a humble loving direction.

[@jonathanjrgensen6774]

It always clouds human thinking, its just less harmful sometimes. But its always a slippery slope to accept unreasonable thinking like religion

[@duncansteedman9986]

@@jonathanjrgensen6774Do you mean ‘unreasonable’ or non logical ?

[@jonathanjrgensen6774]

@@duncansteedman9986 I mean unreasonable

[@duncansteedman9986]

@@jonathanjrgensen6774 Surely the human desire to invent reasonable explanations is exactly rational?

[@jonathanjrgensen6774]

@@duncansteedman9986 it's reasonable to seek out explanations, it's not reasonable to just invent an explanation. Not requiring good evidence or proof for your beliefs about reality is by definition unreasonable

[@swimbait1]

Sam really is a national treasure. His way of thinking about things from all angles is rarely seen particularly given our current political nightmare

[@ivanaglad7912]

😅

[@yuvalking7160]

I'm athiest and ethnically jewish. Israel didn't form because jews were so jewish and thirsty for the holy land but because of people like me who even thought they integrated into society they still got singled out and persictuted for having a jewish mother.

[@addounsamiyoucef1999]

You mean like jews persecuted my great grandfather for not wanting to be enslaved by french imperialists

[@cros34]

victimhood

[@666MaRius9991]

@@cros34 Nazi

[@havocgr1976]

And because they could now defend themselves, which all of Europe failed to do.And now we see it again, especially in London they fail again.

[@soulsmouls]

It is still not your land.

[@Nitrotix1]

As someone from Poland, the vagueness around the label of "Jewish" always intrigued me, with there being so many varieties not only of sects of Judaism, but interpretations of the term itself. I grew up near Hasidic-controlled communities and always associated Jews with their Synagogues and Orthodox attire, but I also knew 'modern' Jews who wore their yamaka/braids but dressed casually, as well as those who didn't have any religious attire/hairstyles. In my mind, the religious part of it (Hanukkah and Sabbath) was parallel to the distinct ethnicity because of how the religion strongly regulated bloodlines and made that known to outsiders.

[@talihershkovitz689]

Just cause it doesn’t make sense to you, doesn’t make it vague…

[@Nitrotix1]

It's objectively a nonspecific term.

[@talihershkovitz689]

No it’s not. The crux of this post is to basically point out that people identify as Jewish willy-nilly. It’s not for outsiders to ponder over what and what doesn’t make someone Jewish. Jews do it all on their own. Instead of making a useless post on social media faking an interest, if that interest is real, go and make friends with people from that community to get an insider’s take. If you have any connection to any Jewish community anywhere you would not make this post on social media.

[@Nitrotix1]

Lots of strong (incorrect) assumptions there

[@talihershkovitz689]

@@Nitrotix1 kind of like listening to Sam Harris speaking on Islam-isn’t it? The “great expert.”

[@CargoCrew-kx8sv]

One of Sams most honest & original interviews. Delighted

[@MattSpence-ei2uu]

This is one of THE best conversations I’ve heard. Sam always fulfills my curiosity… I am however sceptical of his permanent right eyebrow raise…

[@littlegunpowderfalls]

it's because he is always skeptical.. kidding. i have no idea. I think sam is awesome

[@sharonmarx3911]

Hello Mr Harris! trust you are well. Love your exchanges. So cerebral. Such a treat to listen to you.

[@wooddoc5956]

Sam, you still seem to be able to read my mind since I met you at the humanist conference in Albany in 2005.

[@peterforsythe3643]

~21:00 Also... what other war required the provision of aid to the enemy?

[@Len124]

All of them since the signing of the Geneva Conventions in 1929 (for prisoners of war) and 1949 (for civilian populations). Whether or not they were followed is another matter, but the _requirement_ was there. That's assuming you include Gazan civilians in your definition of "enemies," a claim that brings up some serious ethical questions, and by the "provision of aid" you mean allowing aid from all sources (Red-cross and foreign aid from all sources) to pass through the blockade and cross the border. It's a warcrime to allow civilian populations to starve, deny them medical treatment, and target them for collective punishment. Between 15,000 and 20,000 children have been killed by the IDF: they're weren't even old enough to vote, let alone support Hamas. Hamas is an evil terrorist organization, but that doesn't mean you get to declare _all_ Palestinians enemies of Israel and deny them basic provisions as a result. Even denying POWs who willingly surrendered the basic necessities for survival violates the Geneva Convention, let alone the starvation, illness, and emergency surgeries without the "luxury" of anesthetic the civilian population is currently being subjected to.

[@Giantcrabz]

Israel is an occupying power and Palestine is not equivalent to Hamas you ghoul

[@charlesstanley3031]

Noam, what a great interview! Thanks!

[@lesliewilker412]

I always look for the book title, “Pooh Bear on a Windy Day”, in the library backdrop. Love Sam’s clarity!

[@mariaradulovic3203]

U can not force a woman, who accidentally got pregnant, to carry and deliver a child if she doesn't want to.

[@rennyskiathitis8178]

You certainly can ban abortion in a certain states. You can't prevent a woman from leaving the state to kill her baby though.

[@ddz1375]

How do you accidentallysuggest? unprotected seggs?

[@invisibull8413]

How does one accidentally become pregnant? Does involve tripping and falling into fornication?

[@jpurpleyou]

No it only involves a woman who must take responsibility-men have no role at all-jeeesh-but that is the premise of religion-boys will be boys but women are at fault if these boys stumble.

[@DS-rd9qn]

@@invisibull8413 It involves not planning to have a baby... Obviously.

[@saraleigh5336]

Except the religious Jews do not call for violence, do not seek to “martyr” themselves.

[@cl8804]

oh, totally; look at how non-violent they are being towards those 2.2 million perpetually imprisoned and apartheided people in gaza. j3vvLUV2Cit

[@jacksondowney4327]

No, they just seek to martyr others.

[@Daniilo11]

Oh right, they dont call for violence huh? Please try to at least lie a bit better..

[@HungarianVizsla21724]

Nor do biblical Christians. If anything we are too passive when it comes to the evils of Islam. The vast majority of Christians stand with Israel by the way.

[@nyifnbr18]

To the suggestion that Israel "guard the fence" better what are they going to do about the rockets?

[@christianb.6184]

Noah is in serious denial.

[@wescolumbus621]

And about many other developing technological and pathological problems.

[@RandomNooby]

Directed energy?

[@imacmill]

How many people have been killed by rockets over the years?

[@RandomNooby]

@@imacmill Less than have been killed by rocks since we discovered rocks, strangely enough.

[@chrisperkins7331]

That was quite a collection of topics. On the one about MDMA I agree with him that it has the most posative effect on the brain. They are presantly at stage three trials of using MDMA on people with PTSD, with great results. As someone who has used it a few times I can say it is a wonderfull drug to take in the right place and time. If it could be government controlled to guarentee quality I would use it more often.

[@lawrencefrost9063]

Absolutely. MDMA is love.

[@downwithfaith]

What's the name of the interviewer?! Why don't videos list the names of the principal people in the video, if not in the title, at least in the description?!

[@rossini55]

What an excellent interview. Really informative. I'd like to congratulate the host on giving his guest all the time he needed with interruption. So refreshing in this day and age where shouting and anger seem to dominate these formats. Thank you both.

[@alamagoddystyle]

The problem is not in radical Islam the Problem is in Islam ~ HH prince 🤴 MBS

[@kristopherloviska9042]

The problem is religion.

[@alamagoddystyle]

@@kristopherloviska9042 you people leave these kind of Comments out of your Naive judgments that if someone have left Islam would have fallen into some other dogma. Grow up man You’re not the Only Rational Atheist living on planet earth.

[@user-bl4sh4oh5q]

So True. Has Hamas really done anything Mohammed didn't do??? Mohammed led armies to slaughter Jewish tribes in Kaybhar, Medina etc. after the Jews there refused his invitation to join/follow him in his new religion. This is documented history, not scripture. Thus, Hamas (& many muslims who commit violence) are simply following the example of their most revered Prophet & founder of Islam.

[@nicolasbascunan4013]

@@kristopherloviska9042calm down, Stalin

[@fereyal]

@@alamagoddystyle Have you not seen the fanatic Jewish and the fanatic Christians? Grow up, sweet summer child!

[@alekmajeski7528]

He's one of the four horseman of the apocalypse. I'll always love sam

[@restoreachild-orphansandne5566]

God chose the Jews as His people. I’m a Palestinian born in Palestine. I love God’s people.

[@user-iq7th6rd7s]

❤

[@leonorcraveiro-ld6pz]

Thank you for the cerebral and respectful interview

[@Falconress49]

And every cease fire has been violated by the Palestinians. There was a cease fire in place on October 6.

[@carolhasidim6612]

Who would have thought that I, as an Israeli Jew in Israel, could listen to Sam Harris for 90 minutes and agree with almost everything he said?!

[@greenbay123100]

Denmark saved 95% of its Jewish population, but we also surrender after 2 hours

[@yendid7587]

Yesterday I saw some footage of the surrender, we had no choice, they (German and their friends, many were Ukrainians) came armed in GREAT numbers.

[@greenbay123100]

@@yendid7587 i don't know if the surrender was because they were more armed, or because we had a strategy to keep our country in tact, but this most be one of the fastest surrender of all time ;)

[@greenbay123100]

@@yendid7587 most likeky cuz they were more armed, but still xD

[@Celisar1]

I didn’t know that but after reading your comment I checked it and it is true: estimated Jews in Denmark 7800, deported Jews 500, killed estimated 116. All the others were sent to the neutral Sweden. Great!

[@louduva9849]

"Comedy Cellar USA"

[@George-nv1ri]

The bit about Islam was pretty funny

[@schuler5919]

aka The React.ion.ary Zi On Ist Channel 😅🤣😂

[@violinbuff3782]

Sam Harris has a brilliant mind. His thought is capable of surpassing ego. One is confronted with extreme intelligence and honesty and goodness.

[@spongegolfer2155]

Been waiting for these two to hook up on the pod for quite some time.

[@oraz.]

Sam Harris was actually really lucid and succinct.

[@spaceagejava]

Sure the interview is great but audio levels are so low I can barely hear in my AirPods while walking outside. Please turn it up a bit in post next time. Thanks

[@davidcooks2379]

Buy proper tech. Airpods are not noise isolating

[@spaceagejava]

​@@davidcooks2379 Good morning Scrooge McDuck and thanks for your response. Indeed, they are not but for 95% of all other KZbin videos I watch, they still work fine, but they didn't work fine for this one. The reason for that is the low audio level on this video, not the lack of noise canceling. I wish you a profitable and greedy Friday, sir.

[@calebwhales]

I loved this conversation. The mutual respect they continued to have for each other after the conversation seemed like it was about to end but did. Noam and Sam should talk more, there's more to be said.

[@andrewm4767]

About to end? At what point did this hallucination occur? They are both Zionist supporters and they pretty much agree on everything.

[@jeangophile]

"Jews waiting for the messiah to return" @5:24-no Mr. Harris we are not, that would be Christians. We are waiting for the messiah to make his first appearance.

[@twntwrs]

Correct! And an equally stupid proposition.

[@thankuwere]

Jews have the Messiah. He already came. Rapaport is all over the place.

[@porfiriomunoz3675]

Whoa! Nice one! You just nuked Sam Harris! I was like, ‘what’s the likelihood Sam misspoke?? Then I realized it’s much more likely he just doesn’t know anything about religion. 😂😂😂

[@jeangophile]

@@thankuwerehaha!

[@jeangophile]

@@porfiriomunoz3675are you being sarcastic?

[@jvb9553]

"Lunacy", being the operative word when panning over the genocide happening in real time in Gaza.

[@tyler.sotock2504]

I am a Christian looking to revert from all this religious nonsense. Sam harris helps, but i misss when he would do his anti religiokn talks. It brought sanity to my mind. I think new age ideas would help as thry have helped me in the past, but that all kinda vague. Does anyone have ANY advice?

[@joge2468]

I would start reading some philosophy of ethics. Get a beginner’s survey book and then read the source material when you’ve got a solid base of understanding. I’m a huge Kant fan. I think the deontologists provide a resonant alternative to religion. And get out in nature.

[@PMFtheman]

Advice? Yeah, engage with the world; it's rich enough on its own. Find meaning in your job, relationships, hobbies, interests, etc. Also, read stuff on virtue ethics, humanism, epicureanism, and forth.

[@davidcooks2379]

I guess that's not relevant anymore. The fight is now not with all religions, but specifically with radical Islam

[@lonzo61]

Steer clear of the New Age stuff. I was a Catholic and left it, felt like something was missing, and got into Scientology to fill what seemed to be a void. That lasted about a year and a half, and I finally tossed all of it into the same pile of rubbish. Over time, I just got comfortable with the discomfort of uncertainty. Better that than believing in gods or woo woo. Watch this vid from some years ago where Harris and Shermer team up to debate one of the most visible purveyors of New Age crap: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKbTc2pmltOFqLM

[@92Jaghk]

If you are looking to revert from all this religious nonsense as you say, can you honestly say you were really a Christian to begin with? I struggle with the word revert. I'm a Christian. If I left my faith I would acknowledge myself to be an apostate in the true meaning of the word. I feel like revert is a word of deception and disguise and shame. I wish people would just be honest and say that they believed a wrong thing about God, and left that wrong God and never knew the real God or that they just couldn't give up their own ways and own thinking and rebelled against the God they once knew. Just be honest.

[@mrrecluse7002]

The suicide freaks remind me of Zombies.

[@shonlondon7566]

Worse

[@ph8077]

They believe they're off to see 72 virgins...who won't balk at the abnormal genetics of inbreeding! When in fact - best guess given all available evidence - they're just curtailing their brief experience of life to return to nothingness. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@zaydevans2077]

you do know christians were the original suicide bombers in palestine, and the zionists were the first terrorists in the region, literally look it up "who commited the first terror attack in the middle east". But forget all that and call muslims zombies.

[@williamrunner6718]

I enjoyed Sam's books, The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation.

[@timbarnhart3121]

Sam, You are a light, a compass a voice for reason… really appreciate you. You look tired, please take care of yourself, get some rest..

[@eric1020]

Noam says a lot of smart things, but some pretty ignorant things too. I'll note just one. He apparently has no idea what's happening in red America with (lack of) access to emergency life-saving and health-preserving abortions. What a glaring omission in that whole discussion!

[@comedycellarclips]

I'm aware. I didn't want to go on too long about it. I've discussed it in other podcasts, but this was Sam's time to talk. I don't remember exactly what I said to Sam, but I think I said it would eventually settle into a situation far less restrictive than people fear. Short-term, I don't doubt the problems, but I think the Right has deep hypocrisy on this issue.

[@eric1020]

@@comedycellarclips perhaps I was too harsh... but I don't recall that issue being discussed at all with Sam, and it's by far the most serious implication of the Dobbs decision. This will not go away easily, simply because the Dobbs framework licenses it. If you're banking on red states scaling back on this, you'll be waiting a long time to collect. And on the substance, a broad "health of the mother" (or even "life of the mother") exception would permit too many abortions for Christian conservatives. There will almost certainly remain *some* states in which these Handmaid's Tale laws persist, until Dobbs is overturned.

[@markferguson7563]

Fifty-five years have passed since Enoch Powell warned that the culmination of drawing in unfettered numbers of non-Europeans and, MOREOVER, non-Christians, into European societies would lead to sociological mayhem. And this has certainly come to pass over the past 6 months, with Muslims organising mass pro-Palestinian, and anti-Israel rallies, in many major cities in Western nations. Five years after Powell presaged what was in store for European/Western nations with being swamped with immigrants from the Third World, Jean Raspail’s novel, ‘The Camp of the Saints’ was published. Raspail, duly predicted that France/Europe/Britain would be overrun with millions of culturally unassimilable interlopers from the Third World. But he also forecast that. “Bleeding-heart liberals would purposefully organise parties to fully assist asylum-seekers to safely reach their destinations.” (Incidentally, the American, George Lincoln Rockwell, preceded that duo by 5 and 10 years, respectively, with forewarning that North America would be overrun with millions and millions of interlopers from the Third World.) In 2024, there are about 25 million Muslims residing in a score of Western nations. In 1950, the number of Muslims living in Europe was about 4.3 million, most of whom were in Bosnia, and Herzegovina, and they were/are descendants of subjects from the Ottoman Empire. At present there are in excess of 16 million Muslims residing in Europe, and Britain. In 1950, the total number of Muslims residing in Canada, the US, Australia, and NZ, was 300,000. Whereas now it’s over 8.5 million. The gruesome reality of how dangerous Muslims are to Western nations first came to glaring prominence in London, on Saturday, November 4, 2023. For it was on this day, we witnessed a huge pro-Palestinian and, moreover, anti-Western rally occurring. It’s estimated that 300,000, pro-Palestinian protestors took part in this rally. In the ensuing 6 months in many major cities, and college campuses across Europe, Britain, the US/Canada, and Australia/NZ, we have witnessed a perpetual flurry of pro-Palestinian rallies. What this all irrefutably exposes is the innate danger that Muslims/Islam pose to the social cohesion of the host societies. Inevitably, what’s occurring in Gaza will inevitably engender a resurgence of Islamic terrorism occurring in Western nations. Here in Australia, there have been two instances of this occurring. One occasion was on April 24, in Wakley in Sydney, when a Muslim fundamentalist stabbed the bishop of an Assyrian church. The assailant did this, because the bishop had “defiled my prophet”. And the other instance was in Perth, on May 4, in the suburb of Willerton, when a 16-yo Australian convert to Islam, stabbed a passerby in the carpark of a shopping centre. The good news to report about that is the assailant is that he was eradicated from existence by a shell from a policeman’s gun. In the 16-year Reign of Terror stretching from Atocha on March 11, 2004, and not long after in London on July 7, 2005, and all the way through to the horrific murder of MP Sir David Amess, in July 2021, has culminated with Islamic funambulists slaughtering a total of 532 innocent people across Britain and western Europe. But, as we’re all fully aware of, there wasn’t one politician, of ANY of the governments or, opposition parties, in ANY of the societies that, endured these atrocious abominations who categorically condemned Islam/ Muslims for these heinous crimes. In Dublin on Nov 23, a riot ensued following on from when a teacher, and three young children were viciously assaulted with a knife, by an asylum-seeker from Algeria, who was a Muslim. Alas, as it was during the 17 year-long Reign of Terror it’s a certainty that, the treacherous political, and media elites, will steer completely away from unconditionally condemning Islam, and holding it unreservedly responsible for the mayhem that this religion has spawned. Instead, they will again perpetuate the line that it’s only a tiny minority of Muslims who would be fundamentalists. With respect to the two 16-yo youths who committed the attacks in Sydney and Perth, the official narrative to be invoked to down-play affairs will focus upon them being afflicted with mental issues. Rather, than calling out the real issue of them being motivated to kill someone, because they have been poisoned by rabid Islamic fundamentalism. The MSM, in whatever jurisdiction it might be in the Western world will duly avoid condemning those Muslims marching in rallies who are ardently calling for the obliteration of Israel and all Jews. But for anyone familiar with the prof the teachings of Islam, now that Muslims from an early age are taught that, anyone who does not submit to the teachings of Allah, must be eradicated. This chilling message was virulently expressed by a dozen imams in mosques across England, at the Friday prayers on Oct 27, when they vehemently called upon attendees that “unbelievers have to be wiped out”. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, in her book, Infidel: My Life, which was published in 2007, informs us that, as a child she was indoctrinated that “it’s the duty of all Muslims to either convert others to accept, and submit to Islam or, for them to be eradicated”. Again, this is indisputably proven with the hordes of protestors who have marched in the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel/anti-America rallies in Western countries, with them openly calling for a new intifada. So, with imams in Mosques in Britain, and also Australia, calling for “unbelievers to be wiped out” or, for Muslims to join an intifada, proves beyond any doubt that, they are totally incompatible with integrating into liberal Western cultures.

[@weilinwang1989]

Thank you Noam.

[@edwardcreegan236]

Super exchange. Sam's logic sits well with his formidable command of the English language.

[@jordanvannortwick9426]

He has a PhD after all.

[@DharmYogi]

Not sure why people have to rely on drugs. Focus on positive things and faith and science

[@margaretwinson402]

Hamas is dastardly, obviously, but exactly what you expect them to be; they are governed by resentment. What worries me more is the privileged, enlightened west's lack of support for the productive, principled democracy that is trying to remove Hamas from Gaza. The condescension is stunning. Stay three steps ahead of the US and UK, Israel.

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Israel lives inside the storm. It has to be tough, or go under.

[@soulsmouls]

​@@rodgerhempfing2921or go back to Europe and stop begging me for my tax money.

[@downwithfaith]

Are you out of your mind? Since 2005, there's been not one Israeli soldier or citizen in Gaza and billions of dollars in aid has been ploughed into it. Instead of creating a state, they built tunnels and bought weapons and fired thousands of rockets at civilian centres in Israel. They could've added yet another Muslim state to the 22 already existing Muslim states. After WW1, France and Britain handed 99% of all Ottoman land to Arab populations to form Arab nations. The final 1% was the Mandate for Palestine.

[@elishevaingber8719]

“Waiting for the messiah ‘to return’??? That’s not what Jews are thinking at all- for the messiah to ‘arrive’ is what we are waiting for.

[@voodoodisco]

either way it sounds like a mental illness

[@Celisar1]

Yeah, that man is not too clever or informed after all.

[@jimmyfuentes3914]

@@Celisar1although return is accurate, the Jews still wait for a messiah that already came. Unfortunate.

[@ronalddulaney6330]

So true that the moderate elements of Islam must put an end to jihadism and send the fundamentalist element to anger management classes.

[@JCCOOLDOWN]

I took your advice and took some psychedelics, an excellent third eye opener

[@DharmYogi]

As a theist and I love the way this man thinks and explains his thoughts. He is very practical and logical and insults no one. I agree with him entirely.

[@DharmYogi]

Other then the drugs remarks I agree with him

[@Celisar1]

I disagree with him strongly. He made several false statements.

[@alibabaschultz352]

@@Celisar1 Like what?

[@alibabaschultz352]

@safaricat5900 He has never defended genocide. What an absurd thing to say. Surely you realize how ridiculous you sound right?

[@Junk_Yogurt]

If my doctor walks in and they have green/purple/blue hair, then those are the colours that make me walk out.

[@cl8804]

idk hair color seem kinda irrelevant to medical competence

[@rossini55]

If you were coming in for a vasectomy, then you might be a little more hesitant 😅

[@user-xu6bv7yh2j]

Harvard is a luxury brand first, academic institution second

[@professorgremlin1425]

Great conversation!

[@depthsofminds]

Sam is the glimse of sanity in this insane state of the world right now

[@cros34]

rather doomsday than sanity

[@markferguson7563]

Fifty-five years have passed since Enoch Powell warned that the culmination of drawing in unfettered numbers of non-Europeans and, MOREOVER, non-Christians, into European societies would lead to sociological mayhem. And this has certainly come to pass over the past 6 months, with Muslims organising mass pro-Palestinian, and anti-Israel rallies, in many major cities in Western nations. Five years after Powell presaged what was in store for European/Western nations with being swamped with immigrants from the Third World, Jean Raspail’s novel, ‘The Camp of the Saints’ was published. Raspail, duly predicted that France/Europe/Britain would be overrun with millions of culturally unassimilable interlopers from the Third World. But he also forecast that. “Bleeding-heart liberals would purposefully organise parties to fully assist asylum-seekers to safely reach their destinations.” (Incidentally, the American, George Lincoln Rockwell, preceded that duo by 5 and 10 years, respectively, with forewarning that North America would be overrun with millions and millions of interlopers from the Third World.) In 2024, there are about 25 million Muslims residing in a score of Western nations. In 1950, the number of Muslims living in Europe was about 4.3 million, most of whom were in Bosnia, and Herzegovina, and they were/are descendants of subjects from the Ottoman Empire. At present there are in excess of 16 million Muslims residing in Europe, and Britain. In 1950, the total number of Muslims residing in Canada, the US, Australia, and NZ, was 300,000. Whereas now it’s over 8.5 million. The gruesome reality of how dangerous Muslims are to Western nations first came to glaring prominence in London, on Saturday, November 4, 2023. For it was on this day, we witnessed a huge pro-Palestinian and, moreover, anti-Western rally occurring. It’s estimated that 300,000, pro-Palestinian protestors took part in this rally. In the ensuing 6 months in many major cities, and college campuses across Europe, Britain, the US/Canada, and Australia/NZ, we have witnessed a perpetual flurry of pro-Palestinian rallies. What this all irrefutably exposes is the innate danger that Muslims/Islam pose to the social cohesion of the host societies. Inevitably, what’s occurring in Gaza will inevitably engender a resurgence of Islamic terrorism occurring in Western nations. Here in Australia, there have been two instances of this occurring. One occasion was on April 24, in Wakley in Sydney, when a Muslim fundamentalist stabbed the bishop of an Assyrian church. The assailant did this, because the bishop had “defiled my prophet”. And the other instance was in Perth, on May 4, in the suburb of Willerton, when a 16-yo Australian convert to Islam, stabbed a passerby in the carpark of a shopping centre. The good news to report about that is the assailant is that he was eradicated from existence by a shell from a policeman’s gun. In the 16-year Reign of Terror stretching from Atocha on March 11, 2004, and not long after in London on July 7, 2005, and all the way through to the horrific murder of MP Sir David Amess, in July 2021, has culminated with Islamic funambulists slaughtering a total of 532 innocent people across Britain and western Europe. But, as we’re all fully aware of, there wasn’t one politician, of ANY of the governments or, opposition parties, in ANY of the societies that, endured these atrocious abominations who categorically condemned Islam/ Muslims for these heinous crimes. In Dublin on Nov 23, a riot ensued following on from when a teacher, and three young children were viciously assaulted with a knife, by an asylum-seeker from Algeria, who was a Muslim. Alas, as it was during the 17 year-long Reign of Terror it’s a certainty that, the treacherous political, and media elites, will steer completely away from unconditionally condemning Islam, and holding it unreservedly responsible for the mayhem that this religion has spawned. Instead, they will again perpetuate the line that it’s only a tiny minority of Muslims who would be fundamentalists. With respect to the two 16-yo youths who committed the attacks in Sydney and Perth, the official narrative to be invoked to down-play affairs will focus upon them being afflicted with mental issues. Rather, than calling out the real issue of them being motivated to kill someone, because they have been poisoned by rabid Islamic fundamentalism. The MSM, in whatever jurisdiction it might be in the Western world will duly avoid condemning those Muslims marching in rallies who are ardently calling for the obliteration of Israel and all Jews. But for anyone familiar with the prof the teachings of Islam, now that Muslims from an early age are taught that, anyone who does not submit to the teachings of Allah, must be eradicated. This chilling message was virulently expressed by a dozen imams in mosques across England, at the Friday prayers on Oct 27, when they vehemently called upon attendees that “unbelievers have to be wiped out”. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, in her book, Infidel: My Life, which was published in 2007, informs us that, as a child she was indoctrinated that “it’s the duty of all Muslims to either convert others to accept, and submit to Islam or, for them to be eradicated”. Again, this is indisputably proven with the hordes of protestors who have marched in the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel/anti-America rallies in Western countries, with them openly calling for a new intifada. So, with imams in Mosques in Britain, and also Australia, calling for “unbelievers to be wiped out” or, for Muslims to join an intifada, proves beyond any doubt that, they are totally incompatible with integrating into liberal Western cultures.

[@yeti9127]

I tried listening to Sam and could not. The man who teaches peace and meditation and likes Buddha’s message of loving kindness on his Waking Up App, sounds so different when it comes to Israel. He was sounding as if he would welcome WWIII over this.

[@hittman1412]

He’s just talking in baseline terms of how we need to address people who wish to see a whole ethnic group removed from the planet. Islam continues to be the only religion left that has not met with modernity.

[@user-hs1eq2cf9o]

Yes…totally shocked coming from someone who supposedly has been meditating for so many years…something is terribly off…

[@alibabaschultz352]

It sounds like you are quite ignorant on the topic of jihadism. Most westerners are. Dont point fingers, pick up a book or two.

[@ubcphysicsyangbo]

To solve the racism issue - capitalism need some serious revisioning, as Sam Harris said, CHILDREN need to be all given the same kind of opportunties to eat healthy diets, go to school, save from gang violence, etc. Test scores MUST remain in place, selection processes need to be merrit-based.

[@gerryakikojak6832]

Hello Sam. You have a seat in my pantheon after this discussion.

[@MysticalHydra]

Never heard of this host before, but his lack of being able to entertain ideas without being wed to them is apparent. I'm not religious in any way, but I can still recognize how there are indeed fanatics who think this realm is temporary and they will go to paradise. Obviously I disagree with the belief, but having such flexibility in thought is kind of required for critical thinking.

[@lisao6928]

Evil

[@tristan7216]

12:00 for the best example of the European attitudes Sam's talking about, read the book Neighbors by Jan Gross.

[@robmcg9538]

A little confused by the consistency of Sam's messaging here. On the one hand he acknowledges that the issue with radical jihadists must be tackled by defeating those who wish to propogate it along with allowing the reasonable side to restructure the ideas that fuel it. While on the other hand the issues with identity politicals is somehow not a product of radical leftist ideology but rather a "moral panic" in response to something else. 🤔

[@gkbhai8962]

This man is the voice of reason and common sense.

[@cros34]

really..... his's under closet Zionist

[@user-hw2cq6cc2k]

lmao more like a racist rat

[@user-pi4lf1lp9t]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@khajad99]

😂😂😂😂😂😂so laughable

[@robinblick9375]

Until the Third Reich surrendered, the Allies did not provide to Germany's civilian population the kind of aid Israel is providing in the midst of an urban war to the civilian population of Gaza, who, overwhelmingly, voted Hamas into power and to this day, still support it.

[@Giantcrabz]

half the population of Gaza weren't even born when Hamas won a plurality. Stfu genocide denier.

[@jaysweed9035]

I'm a big fan of your criticism of Islam and religion , I've always been. but it obviously made you misjudge the situation of gaza . I have all the respect and admiration for you and I really hope you study the history of this conflict and be fair about it

[@christopherwright8903]

If you, Sam Harris, reads this please see me. We are stronger together

[@DJazium]

I have been a big fan and staunch supporter of Sam Harris for over a decade. He has sensibly claimed that none of his ideas are bigoted and it's all about fighting bad ideas and doctrines. Unfortunately the time has come for Sam to take a deep look into the mirror and consider the possibility that he has become a bigot and has not realized it. The only way he can hold the beliefs he has today and say the disgusting things he says is by being wildly uneducated about history and totally out of touch with modern affairs. Sam I hope you come to this conclusion soon. I hope you awaken once again, become a voice of reason again. The world could use you.

[@sartajaziz5930]

Has become a bigot ? Lmao he always was

[@gnlout7403]

not a single example this long winded ad hominem

[@davidcooks2379]

Where did he express anything bigoted at all?

[@Sdguga]

@@gnlout7403 crying ad hom isnt going to make what the poster said any less true.

[@gnlout7403]

@@Sdguga cite an example of an arguable point the poster made.

[@vegaa1]

I wrote this comment under Hatem's heartfelt, cool headed video response to Sam and thought I'd contribute it to the discussion here: The beauty of this podcast is shown by the fact it gives responses and different viewpoints. I love Hatem and Sam. I think they might be talking from two different vantage points or two different levels of threat assessment: Sam's main concern is violent Islamic Jihadism in a volatile world full of nuclear/chemical/biological weapons, and Hatem's main concern is how Sam's focus on Islam and Jihadi violence will affect the lives of everyday Muslims and how many eggs Sam is willing to break to "make the omelet", i.e. eliminate militant Islamic fundamentalism and violent Jihadism. Sam argues that the problem is there's an intolerable number of "everyday" or "ordinary" Muslims who support, sympathize, or are indifferent to violent Jihad. Sam argues that (1) since Muslims claim religious kinship/brotherhood/sisterhood and (2) to the extent that Muslims are connected by Islam (a system of beliefs), they shoulder much of the responsibility to show the world that they're rooting out the violent actors who are distorting Islam in the same way that Christians would be on the hook if Christianity were at issue. Sam thinks that many people have deluded themselves into (1) minimizing the amount of Muslims who support a militant reading of Islam and (2) ignoring the associations between sincere belief and behavior, and the possibility that a group of violent Jihadis who love their ideology more than the world itself might be able to have access to dangerous weapons is intolerable to him. In this way, Sam's a proponent of Huntington's "clash of civilizations", which I think Benny Morris is also a proponent of. To a lesser degree, Sam is also worried about the anti-enlightenment undertones of ancient religions and their dead weight on society. Basically, Sam is concerned about the effects of primitive ideas in a modern world, and to whatever degree religions have helped humans become civilizational in the past, religions are now anti-civilization. Also, if religious belief (especially religious rapture) influences behavior and religions have different beliefs, then it follows that different religions will influence behaviors in different ways (e.g. Jainism will cause less violent behavior than Islam). Sam argues that people who criticize him for ignoring/discounting the role of history (e.g. foreign policy) in shaping Islamic Jihadi violence are themselves guilty of ignoring/discounting the role of history in understanding Islamic violence. For example, though most major religions have violent clauses in their holy books, the warlord phase of Muhammad abrogates the more peaceful phase of Muhammad. Sam argues that Islam conquered Arabia by "sword" and points to the violent passages in the Quran and Hadiths, and argues many people take those passages seriously. In sum and in Sam's own words, "Religion is the devil's masterpiece." But just as Sam is concerned with the connection between Islamic belief and violent behavior, Hatem is concerned about the connection between Sam's beliefs (in a less cosmic sense of the word) and violent/oppressive behavior, i.e. people's negative intuitions about Islam can harm (physically/socially) Muslims who are just Muslim like Christians are just Christian. In other words, religion isn't the only important aspect of a person's identity. Imagine how fucked up it would be if a bigot hurt someone like Hatem, whom we all love and know is a good man, because he believes all Muslims are on the hook for the violence committed by "their people". Hatem also thinks Sam (1) overstates the connection between Islam and violence and (2) understates the role of other factors behind the violence (historical, political, and socioeconomic factors), and so mono-causally focusing on Islam is a misdiagnosis of the problem, which at best keeps the problem as it is and at worst makes the problem even worse. In this way, Hatem is more a proponent of Karen Armstrong or Tariq Ramadan's school of thought. When Sam points to the fact that many violent Islamic Jihadis aren't poor or oppressed, Hatem points to the many who are poor and feel oppressed and lost. Hatem would also point to a collective sense of oppression and sense of religious/ethnic kinship that could explain the phenomenon of the wealthy/educated violent Islamic Jihadi who wants to avenge Muslims/Islam (in the same way that many American Christians care about the fate of other Christians in other parts of the world). When Sam points to surveys/polls that suggest an intolerable number of Muslims support violent Jihadis as an indictment on Islam itself, Hatem would say that the surveys/polls don't tell the entire story and Sam just doesn't understand Muslim societies, culture (e.g. honor based), motivations, and grievances. Hatem argues that both critics of Islam like Sam AND violent Islamic Jihadis are cherry picking the same parts of Islamic text to take literally, and so they are selectively choosing the parts that justify their particular goals. If violent Jihadis were truly fundamentalists who actually took the text literally, then they'd also take the peaceful parts literally. Hatem argues that Sam wants to paint Islam as violent, which is why he agrees that violent Islamic Jihadis have the most faithful reading of the text, ignoring the hundreds of millions of Muslims who choose a more peaceful reading of the text. Generally, Hatem thinks Sam is ignorant of the relevant historical details and nuances of the conflicts between Muslims. When Sam points to Muslims being violent about religious symbols as evidence of their fanaticism/radicalism, Hatem points to the fact that some Muslims don't actually care about Islamic symbols because they destroy some Islamic symbols---and even though this doesn't take away from Sam's arguments about Islam and symbols (e.g. depiction of Muhammad), it should at least show that there are conflicting motivations, ulterior motives, and ad hoc rationalizations that animate violent Jihadis given that they pick and choose what they want to destroy. How complicated is life?

[@eric1020]

Awesome summary of the arguments (although I think you go way beyond what Hatem actually says, or indeed could articulate). And I think it's clear Sam has the better of it here. What we should care about most is what people actually believe -- actions flow rather directly from beliefs as a default, and we can thus draw the relatively straight lines Sam would have us draw. It's understandable that liberal Muslims wouldn't want to accept the inconvenient truths in question, but when they do so (as Hatem does) their arguments fall flat and smack of emotional upset (understandably, perhaps) rather than genuine intellectual engagement on the core and most important points.

[@jamespercy8506]

A sense of the sacred that is not grounded in a good faith commitment to a shared open future, grounded in contact epistemology, that, in fact, vehemently eschews these values under the auspices of 'sacred' , stand alone propositions extracted from scripture, guarantees a limited future for all until it is effectively challenged.

[@norm4915]

This aged well

[@TheYaneBR]

Suggesting the Israeli might have exaggerated with the number or type of atrocities perpetrated by Hamas is ludicrous. Israel initially claimed there were 1400 casualties, only because there were so many mutilated body parts, they over counted the dead. Once they put it all together, they came clean. 1200 or 1400 are all way too many!!!!

[@sarahevans3622]

Agree!

[@aymanmakarem7531]

False. You insist out of convenience to ignore 75 years of occupation. Palestinians deserve their independent state... just like you.

[@arifsaleem5467]

​@@aymanmakarem7531 Who ruled Palestine before Israel?

[@lonzo61]

Is it possible that Hamas is exaggerating its casualty counts?

[@orwbarcelona01]

Wise, eloquent and interesting. As always.

[@alv9815]

Dirty bombs are a scare tactic. Came from the movie “Wag the Dog”

[@hajarghorbani1022]

Plase let peer morgan pay attention to this wonderful host way of interviw very professional and easy to follow

[@berningid]

Sam Harris, brilliant and clear as always, thank you for this interview

[@cros34]

rather coward

[@historian9484]

How is Hamas is less violent than ISIS.They did the same thing in one day like Isis did

[@da7me22]

Well Hamas is aweful. But certainly there is a difference. Hamas in essence is a political party.

[@Carla39894]

Israelis who want to settle in Gaza never said they want palestinians out of Gaza, they say, Palestinians can stay but jews can also live there

[@amarok5048]

Sam, your wife's book, 'Conscious", is amazing!

[@rammul7801]

Sam, after the passing of Chris Hitchens is my favorite intellect. But I strongly disagree and I’m disappointed (without loosing my respect) at his stance regarding how this war should be handled! Calling it tragic, saying it’s horrible, that 12 thousand children are killed, but because Hamas is using them as human shields (really!! All 32 thousand dead civilians were shields?!) means to him that Israel can have at it to its heart’s content is deeply unjust and unfair. For the sake of the children at least. No one consulted them before October attack. Nor do they support or had voted for the Hamas monsters.

[@Itubersays]

Exactly, can't believe I used to be a fan of Sam Harris

[@caropeter7077]

32 thousand say Hamas all woman and children, dont you question how they dont have any counts of fighters in it ?

[@TheMalka770]

Unfortunately unrwa schools were teaching the children to kill That's the abusive education. they can't have any life other than killing and martrydom.

[@benjohnson785]

What about Israel's children? What about all their future children? Let's say we just declare cease fire, the hostages are miraculously returned, and we go back to how things were Oct 6. What exactly would change now? I would expect other similar attacks from the Palestinians every few years, with more innocent Israelis killed. Why should they put up with that? If you had a neighbor that randomly fired a gun into your house, they would need to go, end of story, and you'd be a fool to just let things go back to how they were. Yes its tragic the neighbor's children also get made homeless or worse in addition to the adult neighbor firing the gun, but why should you put up with one of your children randomly getting killed now and then?

[@lawrencefrost9063]

You say "Chris Hitchens" while claiming to be his fan. Anyone who knows him knows he vehemently disliked people calling him Chris. It's Christopher.

[@harbitude]

psychedelics for the average person is playing with fire, and should NOT be prompted.

[@firefly9838]

That wasn't my experience but ok.

[@rogerberryman6467]

@@firefly9838 Mine either.

[@user-xu6bv7yh2j]

what makes you qualified to decide this?

[@SharonODonnell-kf4fg]

HPPD is a real danger from using psychedelics. Victims can't read, drive or work.

[@mariuswiiked]

good talk!!

[@LT11721]

Sam Harris is such a favorite of mine…. Like Douglas Murray …… so smart so measured so studied !!!! Try to out think these men, never happen…. Sam is saying everything I feel and say myself. I consider myself a Christian-Jew or Jewish-Christian…. For me you cannot be Christian if you are not a Jew …….. I stand with Israel for all the reasons you profoundly purport…. Thank you Sam…. Probably the only thing we don’t agree with is Trump LOL! I know his flaws….. I accept him, warts and all…. I’d rather have Rand Paul or his father Ron Paul….

[@mkkrupp2462]

Sam Harris - my hero. Please watch your back.

[@filho4437]

This guy has lost so much respect in so little time. Remember when he said it was a good thing the media lies to us plebs?

[@alibabaschultz352]

Who's respect? Random nobodies on the internet? Yeah, that's probably a good thing

[@tylerhill9510]

Mohamed was an amazing Christian preacher, theologian and first Patriarch of Mecca. He should be canonized patron saint of Christians in the arabian peninsula.

[@optikalillusion777]

We’re not going to gloss over the fact he just compared abortion; reproductive rights to heroin usage? lnsane. This is the problem with this debate. More developed European nations have legalized this to the point here it is no longer an issue. And Sam Harris says ‘if you don’t want to carry a pregnancy, just have the child and give it up for adoptions’. This is the most uninformed statement I’ve heard from Sam Harris and I’m quite surprised. He acts like pregnancy is a bag you carry until you want to give it away. Pregnancy endangers the life of a woman, puts them out of commission completely for jobs. Stop undermining that process. It’s asinine

[@user-qc7nb2qf9d]

We NEED more people like Sam Harris..highly objective..Islam NEED also to know the LIMITS of its power..

[@LeviNotik]

Excellent conversation. Thank you for doing this.

[@cindypock4949]

Sam, jews are not waiting for the messiah to "return", we are waiting for the messiah to arrive for the first time. You are simple expressing your opinion, which i do appreciate.❤

[@shimac1]

I see that you are still trying as hard as you can. Good luck.I hope that you can one day you can just allow yourself to see that Islam in general is a problem. Right now I see that you are really trying so mazal tov and good luck.

[@interrobang5000]

I don't know anything about Sam Harris's background, but every time I've heard him speak the amount of rich kid vibes I get from him is staggering.

[@innatro]

What are rich kid characteristics? Which ones do you sense in Sam?

[@thankuwere]

​@@innatroAshkenazi characteristics is what they're referring to

[@interrobang5000]

@@thankuwere ​ @innatro Interesting response. Only Ashkenazi people are rich. I see.

[@ObamanableSnowman]

@@interrobang5000that’s the attitude that most pro Palestinians really think but they hide it behind passive aggressive comments

[@eric1020]

Yeah it's just called being smart. That's where the confusion lies.

[@wiseleyb]

FFS Sam - 100% never giving you another dime.

[@alibabaschultz352]

What?

[@jackominty3633]

'Trump has not been wrong, altogether, about China'. Surely, what you mean Sam, is that Trump was 'altogether' right about China.

[@FBUK]

I recently listened to Rory Stewart on the Making Sense podcast with Sam. You quickly realise how out of his depth Sam is when it comes to understanding the complexities surrounding Islam and insights into the Muslim world. There is no doubt his Jewishness clouds his judgments and struggles to hide behind his biases. It's amazing how someone who has spent two decades vilifying a religion has never taken the initiative to travel to the Muslim world or engage with Muslim scholars, historians, and academics. I would genuinely like to see him engage in discussions with these experts from within the Islamic community, rather than confining himself to conversations with like-minded individuals.

[@gnlout7403]

no hes critical of islam because if its doctrines like the death penalty for apostasy and blasphemers, jihad, martyrdom and the treatment of concubines, to name a few. nothing complex about those ideas

[@FBUK]

@@gnlout7403 Every argument he presents could be applied to any religion if scrutinised closely enough. Nearly 2 billion Muslims. The Malay is not the same as the Somalian, who is not the same as the Jordanian who is not the same as the Bangladeshis who are not the same as the Mauritanian etc He uses a minuscule percentage of Jihadists and generalises an entire religion just as Rory pointed out. Look how confidently he discusses Israel, yet when conversing with Israeli scholar Yuval Harari, he seems hesitant to cast blame on Palestine, aware that Yuval would dismantle his weak historical arguments regarding that region. Sam is not genuine. Behind all his intellectual writing there is a deep level of hatred for Muslims.

[@gnlout7403]

@@FBUK the number of Muslims who believe these things actually is not minuscule. He points to polls for one that indicate even Muslims in places like England support some of these ideas. being that there are nearly 2,000,000,000 Muslims. Of course it doesn’t take a lot of people for this to become a problem. he criticizes all religions, but the combination of the ideas I mentioned combined with the following of these ideas, makes Islam uniquely bad. In case you were not aware, he has said that some ideas in the Old Testament are among the worst ideas. The difference is that there are no followers actually performing these ideas . The same is not true to the faith in question. he does point out obviously that not all followers believe all of these bad ideas to the same extent Apologies for the typos

[@gnlout7403]

@@FBUK check out the Dr Phil, mossab yousef segment. He shows how Palestinian kids are indoctrinated to hate jews. This comes from the source material. The founding charter of Hamas, what it says the rocks and trees say (to kill the jews). It's from the source material. They didn't make it up. The Palestinians overwhelmingly support Hamas. That's terrifying. Ideas matter.

[@FBUK]

@@gnlout7403 there's a highly respected professor the US (Robert Pape) who did a comprehensive study of every terror attack between 1980 and 2015. With over 300 cases analysed, he concluded that almost all terror attacks are driven by specific secular or strategic goals aimed at compelling modern democoracies to withdraw their military forces from territories the terrorists claim as their homeland. I genuinely doubt that terrorists commit their actions solely because of religious teachings. Do you honestly believe the likes of Hamas are motivated by religious scripture alone? Their primary concern is there homeland, and that's the fundamental factor driving their actions. Sam always asserts the root cause of terrorism is religious ideology, but he overlooks everything other factors that's my issue with him. Btw - good news, religion is on the decline, at least here in the UK :)

[@tsetso1619]

I admire Sam Harris for his work and see him as one of the most ethical and wise person. But his defence for Israel, I can’t understand at all

[@doesntmatter4136]

Maybe you just aren't thinking the Israel issue through? Maybe there's some misinformation or false perception clouding your judgment?

[@annettearena3218]

If Hamas took your family hostage and killed others, would you understand then?

[@alibabaschultz352]

You might be uneducated on the subject of jihadism. Most westerners are.

[@yawzerdoink-a-sore-as8159]

You need to google the documentary “Iron Wall” from Israel.

[@Campingwilder]

Whenever it comes to money concerning international relations. Everyone (As in the foreign policy makers) is of the same religion...(This is an indirect quote).

[@MichaelJones-ek3vx]

Sam, Sam, Sam. Can't you see that any religion that hijacks rationality WILL turn anti-human, and evil??

[@gnlout7403]

depends on the ideas

[@cragjones1799]

I think so, he wrote a book on that exact topic..

[@stevelovescars]

So… all religions? Religion is irrational by definition. Any organization that defines blind faith as a positive and necessary component of belonging is capable of horrendous things.

[@RobertCUlon]

Wow, Noam is an underwhelming interviewer