Sam Seder Cooks Tim Pool In DEBATE | Hasanabi Reacts

[@Ipraytopesci]

Sam claims to be against the death penalty, but you see him execute Tim Pool live on his own podcast.

[@steven0837]

It looks more like a suicide by rational reasoning.

[@ZERO_O7X]

ChExMiX LiBeRaLs!1

[@lpluva1]

It was so gruesome, I had to look away.

[@dirtabd]

It was warranted with 1800’s legal precedent. It was total self-defense. 😂

[@jeffafa1730]

Sam went Dexter on Poole. He was so precise that many of Tim's watchers never watched it happen.

[@LocalCryptidGhostdoll]

Sam Seder leaving a giant floater in Tim Pools toilet is praxis

[@alexanderthealright]

Shitting to assert dominance

[@xbabu142x]

To me the true praxis is how in the framework of Christ, Sam doing this to them actually all happended due to God hating him for being a no evidence accuser lmao. Tim would have God hate him than be nice to women and the gays. wtf

[@Justhatip]

Upper decker.

[@lukewand]

​@@JusthatipTechnically a lower decker...

[@wedgewizard5429]

Civil action.

[@monadproxy_]

‘I don’t know the specifics…’ Tim playing the hits right at the top!

[@xbabu142x]

I'm probably the only one finding this funny but Tim brought attention to how his actions and consequences have actually been the root cause of his despairs. If the Bible if you speak ill upon Samuel without proof, the hair loss, the integrity, the intellectual decline, all things can be considered consequence.

[@alansmith4655]

He even says that about things he's said 😂

[@maddii34u]

😂😂😂😂

[@greysnake2903]

Too much copium

[@manderly33]

I love that Sam has his own laptop and is prepared.

[@kushclarkkent6669]

Bet he had more than a few wiki tabs open too! ;)

[@ModernPlumbingFan]

King always brings the receipts!

[@pavld335]

That was very smart. I wouldn't have thought of that.

[@tyronesquiers8699]

He wouldn't be sam otherwise

[@MM-vs2et]

Unc couldn't rely on his nephews and nieces for tech for this one

[@Punshr]

Tim was likely thinking “Oh no Sam Seder, what a fucking nightmare!” 😆😆

[@xbabu142x]

Yeah not understanding the strength of love and thinking it weak does turn dreams to ngihtmares, I attest to this as fellow man. Can lead to a lot of insecurity about hair loss trying to cut down the integrity of a man who greyed with the precision of a makeup artist applying makeup to a touch of grey commercial actor. Not sure if you're a dude but every time Tim tries to cut the man down, the deeper he researches the harder he will rattle his own sense of integrity. Seen this multiple times before.

[@staticsavage7893]

@@xbabu142xI don’t think u get the reference

[@davidka8345]

Well Tim isn't Crowder.

[@leftymclefterson582]

@@davidka8345 yeah he is even worse somehow 😆

[@datamore2653]

He was trying so hard to just fill the time with words so he wouldn't have to actually debate Sam on anything.

[@Fosterakahunter]

“My uncle… my real uncle, Sam” Bro, treated. Shots fired.

[@xbabu142x]

Well Hasan before Sam even had an examplary attention to detail on media impact and ethics, which Sam has always been impeccable on, and honestly I've been super confused why TYT just seemed to not want to do this. They're progressive allegedly. I thought this was main issue Hasan honestly separated form them, but he told us that one so he's his Uncle by whatever those twin-flames stories do soul connectioins in my books lol

[@yilli_9109]

Tim getting Sam on the show as it's shutting down is like when a show gets cancelled and the showrunners decide to use their final episodes to nip a reoccuring plot thread in the bud.

[@ballisticbread]

@@anthonyjackson9195‘em what are you saying?

[@anthonyjackson9195]

@@ballisticbread sorry I realized I replied to the wrong thread. My B

[@greatwhitesufi]

Well yeah they're playing the greatest hits, going out with a bang

[@xbabu142x]

Sam's masterclass in saying Tim would retire than debate was a artful wielding of this thing we call the sword of damocles. Challening his concept of masculinity in a video with the theme being confused as to why, you have to understand the man to know how well this was done, and my goodness, this impressive. Sorry we as Sam and I turbo debate nerds, but like for real. In the world of debate, media, and ethics violations, the last one comes first in importance. Sam is always for this guessing part and partly to his wife being a media person so knows about the whys to a deep degree, emmy winning actually.

[@JStack]

Yeah Tim wanted a few big shows on the way out for the extra money too since he seems to be in a bad financial place, as in overleveraged and in massive debt. Not like he can’t actually afford to eat or anything

[@Villani_AV]

I love how ridiculously focused Sam actually is

[@buddhull]

At all times, too. The batteries never seem to deplete

[@Weeping_Somnambulist]

The "uhhh"s and "ummm"s are just him recharging

[@basicindiebro]

This is why I watched his news for years

[@christiancallahan7970]

Seder's just a democrat propagandist

[@hjvjccc]

​@@christiancallahan7970you really think that? I would say he gives the best most accurate straightforward news that's available.

[@angielott83]

I think Tim actually secretly respects Sam. There are moments where he’s totally agreeing and actually learning from Sam. Then he remembers Sam has to be “the enemy” and pushes him lol.

[@sandboxplayerz667]

Yes, he knows Sam just isn't in his league.

[@islabee94]

100% you're right on the money

[@chadmaxilla4064]

No doubt about it. Sam is probably what Tim wanted to be when he was failing to accomplish anything at VICE, and then he took the easy way out by grifting to shut-in teenagers.

[@mr.dr0bot731]

It's not respect it's the lack of a backbone. He's a charlatan. A con man of you will.

[@angielott83]

@@mr.dr0bot731 fair for sure lol

[@cthulhuhoops]

"I don't really have conceptions of you." God what a banger right there lmao

[@ZoeyPaigeLunaPhD]

I’m surprised he’d even debate after what Emma Vigland did to him

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Tim is a grifter! How else is he going to get eyeballs from Sam’s viewers. But this also a gift to Tim, if only he wishes to learn.

[@Farticuss]

I was just thinking back to where she was talking about how his operation had ridiculous amounts of funding cause he advocates for certain interests and he was being coy like "I don't know what you're talking about, it's just our subscribers". And now we know the Russia stuff and she was absolutely correct.

[@joearnold6881]

@@Farticussand he was all like, “I guess you guys just aren’t as good business people as I am” lmao

[@xbabu142x]

I'm glad he did though, Sam to me reminds me of my late literature professor, my mother's favorite professor. The man who demanded and shamed Trinity College to submit to removing financial related dropouts through shame. Integrity is one of the most important qualities in humans, but sadly as society is men being more important it is on us other men to appropriately lift up those of use with integrity appropriately and dispel this illusions of malice set around them by those of us who think complex and flowery speech could ever replace the actions of a man with true integrity, and also willing to get on screen and take an onlslaught of ignorance, to show boys what actual integrity is, which is taught by actions not words as has been decided by those of use in the patriarchy. Unironicaly speaking as a philosohpy nerd, this fanciful notion we all hold as men, that men all have this trait that it is a male only trait, was what held Hagel's brilliance in check till Dr. Judith Butler came along and furthered this pillar of philosphy, the one called deisre, for the first time in hundreds of years, and even with more irony, since Kant criqtiqued pure reason. Pure reason, is to take a child's imagination, and think, no concede it as reality. If you have the pleasure of teaching children, or have been in charge of them you know how one would reply if asked should the laws be set upon their thoughts. One told me "sir, respectfully, you are too young to be going senile," but what they really wanted to say, and aught to have said is that I was "cukcoo for cocopuffs, and the the cocopuffs were caca!" Credits to the hilarious and intelligent five year old who unfortuneately cannot be credited by name till they're able to give informed consent to do so. I noticed him saying this to adults and kids alike but more importantly I wondered why a five year old, with an accuracy greater than the Team at John Hopkin's, was diagnosing delusion in people. He told me in the most serious voice, this is why the dodo went extinct and truthfully it was really scary seeing people do it. This was supposed to be a secret but we agreed he aught to tell people this as well, and that I'd take the heat for any anger or whatever. This kid is so intelligent that the statement he made by mere reasoning and obversation, is actually scientifically accurate as well, if you understand how all the intricate science behind genetics and trait propogation and selection works. Look how easy it is for me to uphold integrity and ensure it's not stamped out in someone unable to demand it out of society due to their wealth, family and station in life. Do any of these hold candle or weight to the terror of the end of humanity? I understand the gulf of difference in me a regular person to geniuses, as my parents were both published matriculates of Oxford and Trinity colleges before the age most American children learn to drive, but the positive acepptance of this to me came only as a result of them being good parents on top of all that. I've been in the know of Mr. Sam Seder longer than the majority report, and had not one surprise his allegiances to anyone as I watch online drama enfold in amusement. I don't have to jump through hoops and justifications to defend his honor either, as if you know him to the degree I do and you want to say he's duplicitious in character, your own shame will hit you harder than words. Men hate talking about integrity as we all know action is what dictates it, the hatred is from denial of the reality of how wrong that sentiment of men have integrity and women are duplicitious is. My father has always credited my mom with having more integrity than him even and objectively this is actually true, and through her I have met Dr. Judith Butler multiple times and she says to me the single most influential moment in her life has to be when the Orthodox Rabbi's upheld their own code and gave to a girl, 14 years of age, not heterosexual, the respect, and awards promised, to those who can best them in philosphical debate. Same rabbi's who have always opposed Zionism for reference. Only thing I've had to doubt Hasan on of late is this idea he's actually not smart. I noticed his subtle switch of calling people debate perverts as opposed to debate lords. That is fascinating to me, as I was in disagreement with Hasan on this one point, as Lord Harris III gave sginificance of that title to me. Lord has a meaning on paper, all things have meanings, without integrity meaning holds no merit and more importantly might. Chariman Mao was actually one of the handful of politicians with any integrity, and called the aforementioned man the last great lord of England. Lord Harris had freedom of uncontested movement between all the countries at war during the cold war if he said it was for the pruposes of literature, his academic domain. One simple fear, the fear of disappointing a man who they all looked up to. We lie to little boys about emotions but that man stood 5'5" wore the most ridiclous flowery suits and not once is he known to strike anything living. My father was one who never told me emotions are weak, so I can clearly say and explain that the fear of the meaning behind love is indeed terrifying. The light of heaven in every religion is actually this concept called love. Judas sits imprisoned in the depts of cocytus, furthest from the lgiht of the Lord, Dante says in "Inferno." In Hinduism, The Manusmriti ends saying forever you are tainted and separated from the soul of Lord Brahma, only the mercy of the Goddess Kali ends the torment as you are scattered into the void to never reform. In Islam Shirk signifies associating partners with God. The Quran states that: He who associates with God has surely forged a great sin, This association with shirk is noteworthy for shirk is considered unforgivable if not repented of. I'm agnostic because as a teacher I fully understand the dangers of religion and propoganda, highlighted best by the misrepresentations of Islam in media. Shirk signifies associating partners with God. The Quran states that: He who associates with God has surely forged a great sin (ithm). This association with shirk is noteworthy for shirk is considered unforgivable if not repented of. In the Quran, there is a complete surah (chapter) titled At-Tawba, which means "The Repentance," the most misrepresented religious chapter in history honestly. If we looked with the level of critical analysis assigned to putting down Islam using this chapter, Hinduism and Christianity both would be considered cannibalistic ritualistic cults. I'll freely meet up with someone from religious leader through individual and fly em out to debate if they want in Oxford hall, my favorite place. I've had to have this debate so many times due to family and for the love of all that they consider Holy it is always grown ass men and women who seem to be doing the most to procrastinate from the guilt of fear and doubt over self-acceptance. The only joy on the latest issue is this Lebanese woman, who won't admit to herself she's lesbian for zero good reasons, as I see none, and she's explained none. More importantly the second. It's gotten to the point of where I have a open letter of guarantee signed by multiple Islamic religious and community leaders stating they will offer the accepting community and religious background if it is her unkown partner who is the one at risk. That chapter is being misrepsented past propoganda to acadmic dishonesty levels, which is my issue. The message is you must understand and have remorse for your wrongs, to repent. Positvely reinforced by forgiveness of all sins. I write it that way because as a teacher I plainly understand this concept. Always conversations about lobbying for stuff in various countries, which is why it's annoying. Before healthcare for all it is the most important to break first amendment rights for Muslim Americans this lady says, in the name of feminism and Dr. Judith Butler she says. The latter of which I'm afraid might have the grip strength still to wring her neck as she promised upon hearing that this lady thinks Zionism and Islamophobia is what she stands for. Am glad for Dr. Watkins sake, she's passed this life, to hear what Bell Hooks would want to do before universal healthcare. Maybe the support of elder abuse and Islamophobia instead of educating herself as an academic is the cause of this one's misfortune hmmmm This is what happens when you get old, you see a comment about Sam Seder and your train of thought keeps going on and on. I love Emma and that was a thorough stomping she gave Tim, but am glad Sam was once again able to wield the sword of damocles, in it's full might to get this debate. Every boy and man in that audience who idolizes strong men and these concepts, but is willing to put effort into proving Sam is weak even, will be benefited. That video he released saying Tim would rather retire than debate him is a masterclass in wielding the sword of damocles. On top of all this every time I remember how old he is I wonder wtf it is like to roll out of bed looking like you stepped off shooting a touch of grey commercial. This man grows old and goes grey like an anime main character in a Shonen story. His poor wife has had to explain to this man why people bully his guests for verbal tics when he has them too. Did you know that in a informal study and survey it was found over 90% of women, actually anyone with an attraction to men, would notice this tics if the video was not up and it was audio, but Sam's face somehow made him seem like a flawless orator. Curious. Sam goes beet red when blushing according to the firsthand researcher testimony provided. 😂

[@tubulartom666]

She’s so mean. She wouldn’t even eat sushi and play poker with the boys 😔

[@guspewe]

Conflating “HelloFresh” & “Tushy” into “Hello Tushy” as an ad read is so wonderfully funny.

[@MasterDoctorBenji]

Get em coming and going

[@Ryw316]

Unc Sam killing it as always.

[@MM-vs2et]

Some would say he's a nightmare

[@xbabu142x]

I like to think if we all live with this level of integrity that Mr. Seder has shown in his life we can too grey with the look of a touch of grey actor having their make up done. Ah the whimsy of living in denial. In patriarchy we say that we're all men of action not words, what I truly love about the age of information and internet has allowed the separation of clowns form jesters and those from men. A separation and enforcement without the need for all the violence even. Shame and ridicule is the balance to desire btw but sadly Tim and friends have not udnerstood this due to Feminism having "fem" in it I guess. It's one of philosphy's pillars

[@spyder_33]

Ghey

[@robson1566]

Sam leaving a Big One in Tim Tool's toilet was wild lol

[@JH-yj7kk]

"I may have committed some *light* treason"

[@Mouse-TseTung]

It happens

[@jeffhannah6489]

No touching!

[@direktive4]

@@JH-yj7kk theres always money in the banana stand

[@torsteinholen14]

"...first time!"

[@pajolify]

I love that old debate between Tim and Sam where Tim starts bringing up Thanos in his arguments and Sam just looks like a confused adult who has no time for whatever the f*ck Thanos is.

[@direktive4]

@@pajolify the response was priceless, ‘I. Dont care’

[@yaserthe1]

04:51 'I dont have conceptions of you'. The way Sam dismissed Tim right from the outset was epic.

[@xbabu142x]

I put this originally on the big screen and had pop corn. You could also look at it from Tim's angle, as in Christofascism this is the duly called to consequence of how he spoke ill on the Samuel like that without any evidence. Either he got rolled or God hates him for being a lil deceiving serpent and I'm making that actually sound more civil than in Bible. His choice. Not sure why he'd do such a thing, the book he abides by has the warnings right there, he can't be illiterate iirc that makes it worse lol

[@a1ntcry1noveru]

“What do you think of me?” “I don’t.”

[@tylerdrippon1326]

It's like a 5th grader in a beard versus a full-grown hammerhead shark in a kiddie pool

[@Koldfusion234]

“Sooo it’s grade school tee ball vs the New York Yankees” - Walter White

[@julianbatcheler9970]

Tyler: LOL perfect description…

[@soooofiaa]

respecfully .... sam seder is looking GOOD

[@leonardobautista2647]

Bro doesn't age much

[@bravo561]

Sam been movin different since he grew his beard

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

His studio lights are not helping him. Pools are much better.

[@9000ck]

He really is. He is getting better looking with age.

[@50shadesofgayy]

Daddy Sam

[@OhAwe]

"Tim Pool, why are you talking?" I mean, could've left it right there lol.

[@Ed44503]

Tim Schooled

[@itsblitz4437]

Dude he didn't even get schooled

[@GoldPhish300]

​@@itsblitz4437 Tim Fool got spanked.

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

@@itsblitz4437 glad to see the short bus finally got wifi

[@Shsjier]

​@itsblitz4437 yeah cus he was channeling his inner bernie sanders. He pretty much agreed with everything Sam said

[@mannycastillo641]

LMFAO I said #TimCooked 🔥🍳😂

[@SizzleCorndog]

Tim demonstrating the conservative bit of not knowing things by forgetting that the constitution prevents "ex post facto" criminalization. If you have an older gun and then it becomes illegal to buy or own one, you cannot be arrested for owning one prior to the law being passed.

[@Musamecanica]

I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I can tell when I'm getting in a debate with someone above my head. I wonder how long it took Tim Pool to figure it out.

[@InvinciblKillerQueen]

I honestly think he made it like 3 seconds in and remembered "oh right I'm an idiot and this is Sam Seder, Mr. Too-Damn-Receipts"

[@nicholasqualters]

He had to know about this I think the reason tim aspires to be seen in the same light as Sam, but he can never achieve that level for a myriad of reasons

[@JLogg444]

@@InvinciblKillerQueen 1 minute in and Sam was already whipping out receipts. No mercy was shown

[@thematman92]

Honestly having listened to Sam debate libertarians (I recommend watching the videos if you haven't seen them) I can assure you Sam "get out of my house" seder is not someone you want to debate.

[@xbabu142x]

Prob hasnt yet. Am glad debate happened due to male audience. I haven't met a man yet who overturned Sam Seder's integrity or masculinity through reseraching his life. It's hilarious too me when someone tells me about Sam Seder IRL, how he's a fake or a evil individual and how they will set to prove him wrong. They don't know I am both aware of and have met the man before lol and know him so well before he knew Hasan and Destiny I would say he'd side with Hasan as I know both this knuckleheads very well, one right now being much more knuckleheaded oddly, by part American education indoctrination I guess, but seeing Hasan fans outpace me on logical argumentative ability would shake me awake if I was the man, unless we had another underlying issue. First time I realized the anti-Islam carried through into Islamophobia though so learn new things every day.

[@direktive4]

'i think i was pulling hairs' - it's splitting hairs, no wonder he needs the beanie

[@shanemackay493]

He was failing to split hairs, so in a way he was right 😂

[@xbabu142x]

He was, to Tim he's always pulling hairs, it's the burden that comes with calling ill upon Samuel without proof in his framework of Christ. Is he trying to prove Christianity is the most real this way? Odd choice, very weird.

[@trevfisher]

Pool is objectively an uninformed controversy click chimp. He has no values or beliefs beyond personal enrichment. It's all performative and transactional. He strikes me as a man who has never read the arguments against his own position because his audience hasn't either so he doesn't have to. It's all vibes based, they don't listen to the lyrics, they just like the tunes.

[@robearlafleur]

He's also a literal high school drop out

[@trevfisher]

@@robearlafleur mainly because he was being bullied by smart kids and nerds 😂

[@Ssalamanderr]

I was shocked when he admitted he didn't know why the lead crime theory was a thing. Like how long have you been doing this dude?

[@boogit9979]

@@robearlafleur no dude. hes a 5th grade drop out after failing twice. his own admittance!

[@LovelyIslandVacation-ch6wo]

@@trevfisherby the looks of it he still is

[@radmike64]

I fucking love Sam Seder

[@matthewrabins2588]

Sam Seder is what happens when we haven't allowed physics to happen for a while.

[@xbabu142x]

@@matthewrabins2588 Lol Tim larped as the Third Law of Motion for too long and hard and found out the sad tale of Icarus and hubris. Sad but accurate. For Tim. I'm finding this hilarious, thank you for this mental image.

[@matthewrabins2588]

@@xbabu142x I meant that Sam is a weak weak man that is only around because better men keep him safe. His ideas are that of a boomer and I’m a little disappointed Tim didn’t tear him apart in some areas.

[@kvaka009]

​@matthewrabins2588 going hard on the copium

[@matthewrabins2588]

@@kvaka009 sure kid. Sure

[@RadarFinsR]

Saying "Sam you probably just didn't watch the whole clip" knowing who he is, is hilarious Hasan is right, he literally does homework for fun. Tim "I'm not making that argument" Pool continues to just keep making the argument that he's supposedly not making lmfao.

[@xbabu142x]

He does do homework for fun young man, because to him it's not homework it's fun.

[@ailblentyn]

The idea that Sam is addicted to drama is hilarious. Sam studiously avoids drama usually, except for a little funny content occasionally

[@BackShotsFPV]

Why is treason censored lmao

[@nrXic]

I was surprised by the mention of YT not allowing people to advocate for the DP. I have to call it DP because I don't know if I can spell it out.

[@beansworth5694]

@@nrXic They censoring the got-dang double penetration discourse

[@salicaguillotines]

​@nothanks9503 the Book of Faces has been doing this for years and it's gotten really bad in 2020 just before the election. Got shadowbanned and they didn't even tell me and didn't give me a chance to challenge it. Then we lost our anti-Q group because we weren't promoting the qcult.

[@joearnold6881]

@@nrXic Idk if you want to use that abbreviation lol I’m pretty sure you can advocate for double penetrstion on KZbin. I know I do.

[@mikecynic5167]

Because KZbin TOS is bullshit.

[@9000ck]

Sam Seder didn't just cook he peeled, diced, suteed and baked him in clay garnished with edible flowers.

[@Koomoa]

The cope from the Tim fans is insane 😢

[@blahpunk1]

Oooooo edible flowers!

[@xbabu142x]

On Stir-Friday too!

[@davidka8345]

Good for him. At least the flowers are edible.

[@leothelion69]

​@Koomoa honestly if you look at Tim Pol's own page comments on this debate upload, he's getting crapped on by his own fans like crazy they're disappointed

[@direktive4]

the Desolation of Dim

[@konstantinkrastev4478]

dim pool lol that's so good

[@danadavisyt]

@@konstantinkrastev4478 i thought it was dim tool

[@polyticks8453]

Hey, be nice. Do have to be so Smaug about it!

[@sporer_]

Tim not understanding why lead is bad makes me think that beanie is leaded af

[@guesswho343]

Might explain why he is bald at such a young age 🤣

[@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa369]

It was very obvious Tim’s entire strategy was to only talk about things him and Sam kinda agree on so that he wouldn’t have to debate him and look like a moron lol Didn’t work too well in the end though

[@xibalbalon8668]

Sam was right when he called it branding. Tim needs to make himself look moderate or centrist in order to sell himself, even though he's never that in practice

[@lightningmonky7674]

I love the way Sam cedar holds Tim's feet to the fire while still coming off as a gentleman

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

When hasan said Sam dumping in Tim’s toilet was an act of resistance is lost it

[@boringstuff1542]

I will never give tim pool a view so I'm glad that there are channels like this which will react to his content so I can still watch the content without supporting him in anyway shape or form.

[@kaliver517]

Tim believes he's having an intellectual conversation about the death penalty. Sam is watching a toddler eat crayons.

[@Troikaverse]

While watching this, this was the exact feeling I had, but could not put into words. You pretty much nailed it.

[@mannyc7187]

It’s like I got another MR Fun half with this one. That beanie almost lit up 😂

[@russlcorey]

Tim: “I don’t agree with the death penalty but I’m ok with it being used and think it should be used per current law and I’m actually for the death penalty.”

[@kevinchristensen7510]

Most of his positions are almost comically absurd, "I'm a moderate except when it (is in any way) is oppositional to a right-wing or conservative ethos." He's truly a creature of our center-right political culture.

[@xibalbalon8668]

I think he said he was pro choice and then celebrated and cheered when Roe was overturned. He has no values or morals, that's why Russia paid him

[@rjScubaSki]

How on earth does anyone watch Tim Pool non ironically

[@akouri6967]

I think it goes back to the lead poisoning thing

[@KaLeeBunny]

This is the most content I've ever absorbed from thar man. I've probably gained a wrinkle making faces. He sounds so unsure of himself. Just shakey.

[@xbabu142x]

As a Catholic School grad I can't even do that. The way he espouses it versus acts the urge to bully him rises. Younger me could but I know it's not Tim reading and bullying Tim Pool fans is unproductive as the commonality seems to be functional illiteracy.

[@noneya1238]

​@@akouri6967😂😂

[@dualsportdadz]

The beanie hides the bald spot and all his blind spots as well. Because after what happened with Emma, I don't know what Timmy P thought was gonna happen when he faced Sam.

[@jkRatbird]

Jubilee should do 1 Sam vs 25 professional conservative pundits.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

They would never, would make conservatives look way too bad

[@xbabu142x]

YES YES YES

[@lookbovine]

Jubilee sucks, Sam won’t do it.

[@jkRatbird]

@ yea sadly. And the 25 pundits wouldn’t do it either.

[@Asrahn]

1 Sam vs 25 Libertarians

[@thomasprislacjr.4063]

Pleeeeeeease, SOMEBODY animate this as a Home Movies episode with Fenton and Brendan.

[@WuddhaCR7]

Brought receipts and cooked him from the beginning

[@PoppaCYS]

Why does Tim keep bringing up obvious examples of self-defense trying to compare it with the death penalty? So dumb, it's completely two separate legal principles.

[@manderly33]

He has no idea how to reason, or his reasoning is like that of a child. Or someone with very little formal education. Let’s put it that way. He seems to think capital punishment is, like, self defense on behalf of the government. He is wrong.

[@Farticuss]

He's trying to flatten the nuance to purely taking a life to say "sometimes it's just justified" to apply that to both situations.

[@xaldynnemo47]

And whenever Sam points out that it's not a good comparison, Tim's just all like "Oh whaaaa no I wasn't comparing them silly, I was just saying for no reason whatsoever and keep saying it every time you point out what a hypocrite I am. I'm just saying things. For no reason."

[@kevinchristensen7510]

It's debate-lord fetishism. Because Tim has no formal education he's just not very good at it. (Not that achieving a high school diploma makes you better at debating or anything.A couple of university-level courses concerned with or research or even public speaking quickly disabuses you of dumb, circular arguments.) He's like a guy who claims he's a master of ninjitsu because he's learned by watching Godfrey Ho movies on a black and white TV. In other words, Pool is an inferior copy of an already poor process. Seder has spent time in law school and has debated oppositional callers for 20 years. Tim just flutters from point-to-point, like a butterfly in a meadow, frequently contradicting himself throughout this interview. He also engages in a staggering amount of equivocation. Sam calls him out about this in the second part accusing Pool of only explaining to Sam "what he (Tim) isn't saying". This is standard practice for right-leaning "thinkers" because their ideas are so politically unpopular when actually explained.

[@darkforest4891]

It's just filibustering. Never conceed a point, throw out lots of bullshit. Declare it an "interesting" discussion that you should like and subscribe to. Then watch the money flow.

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

Sam is in his 60s he doesn’t just have knowledge but he lived through a lot of history and paid attention while he was there.

[@wynndarring]

Tim doesn’t understand the definition of punishment. He’s conflating the concept of punishment with deterrent.

[@KylerSharp]

All Tim can do is Gish-gallop and try to change the topic or framing of a topic anytime Sam makes a point or corners Tim with a question.

[@darkforest4891]

Tim you said you'd meet me at 7pm Tim: Ummm. I don't know if I said 7. Maybe I said 7ish or around 7. *plays voice message of tim saying exactly 7 Tim: Well, what's the context for that?

[@jimmyd9886]

Damn Christmas came early

[@caseyplucinski761]

Thanks!

[@SocialCreditScore]

The "toilet" from the RM Brown video is amazing

[@Morpheous2070]

That beanie is toasty right now

[@user-lk3gn4dn9o]

Oh you know the few hairs he has left under there is WET

[@DomesticatedDemon]

Tim is trying to steer the conversation away from Sam confronting him in any way 😂😂😂

[@a1ntcry1noveru]

Yes! He’s acting like he invited Sam on like one of his regular guests, just to have a conversation. Like nah, you were talking all that stuff about him being a grifter, let’s get the issues of contention then! This isn’t a kumbaya session dude “I don’t want peace, I want problems! Always!”

[@jiggerfool]

Wool Cap boy wanted Sam's approval and a hug, but got sent to his room without supper instead.

[@InvinciblKillerQueen]

So the complaint about "over-regulation" really does seem to boil down to "they won't let me buy my toys"

[@xbabu142x]

This is literaally everytime the issue for everytime this is argued.

[@Mudar0314]

Bro cooked him from the get go lmao

[@JoshAronoff]

Sams ten steps ahead… mentally boarding the plane to go home 10 minutes in. 😂

[@Steveosupremeo]

Destiny, the type of dude that would literally burn a physical bridge so Hasan couldn’t deliver aid to the same side

[@xbabu142x]

Honestly I didn't know Destiny had this level of Islamophobia, so I'm actually in agreement with you on this one now. I frankly can't really understand why even knowing his history, maybe will recall at one point, but it's actually up there objectively in strength too, and I don't think it's actually all one religion even. His controversy with saying he'd make fun of his own Trump supporting parents for getting shot at a Trump rally, that one also seemed to stem from his Christian conservative upbringing. I now think he really needs to reconcile and maybe seek professional help on any religious trauma seeing how hard the bounce back is. I mean just objectively in terms of optics of logical consistency. When you warp yourself with propoganda or even reactionary trauma its kinda obvious to those who do stay objective. Lemme give you a example, in terms of pure factual stuff before the Zionist stuff overtook him, He had Hasan actually beat by a long shot, however the more prescient issue was media impact, which is the who, where, when, and how something is said and broadcast in terms of the social climate and environment. Hasan is leagues better than Cenk even so I'm actually unsure where he got that from lol. I think maybe dude may be better perceptually than he thinks, and I'm being honest. After the Zionism overtook him, even if Hasan doesn't believe it he's actually winning in every objective metric which is a new one. I mean stuff like number of things right or wrong factually. The orthodox rabbbis has supplied me with a verifeid and evidentiary list of things zionism has done wrong, so if someone wants to do the ole whataboutism on islam we'll see whose deck is bigger. Those rabbis are the orignal debate lords, not perverts for they uphold their rules an awards to anyone who achieves them equally. This is integrity. The anti-islam propoganda has turned from that into academic dishonesty overall in soceity fyi which is my issue with it as agnostic.

[@billedwardz]

It's like watching an adult debate a child. lmao

[@xbabu142x]

Because it objectively is. This is Sam's unruly kid kidnapped by Wolf Blitzer to live amongst him and other wolves or something like that.

[@mangowizard]

"I'm against the death penalty, but if its the law I am for the death penalty"

[@EzekialMordecai]

Tim speaking 2x faster than he thinking.

[@LastHomesteadOnTheLeft]

Tim is incapable of having an actual conversation.

[@GoldPhish300]

Tim pool has a pool in that beanie from all the sweating. Those two brain cells are working overtime.

[@mr.dr0bot731]

I can't believe he said he doesn't have children because he's too busy making bread. Nah bruh that ain't it.

[@domenicgalata1470]

Sam has forgotten more about policy, law etc than Tim could ever even hope to learn and understand in a lifetime.

[@xbabu142x]

Actually Sam's forgotten nothing of that sort. He's making a joke on specifics lmao, I did laugh originally then too. Those are looked up always. Cue in point his deep cut humor on law policy and memory.

[@Corvaire]

Dim Tool: "Yeah but I said the exact opposite later. I talk out both sides of my ass so you can't call me out."

[@lurx2024]

Responding to a threat is not the same thing as adjudicating a punishment.

[@Sup-jz2ow]

Tim doesnt seem to understand the meaning of the word "should" lol

[@xbabu142x]

Words have meaning but integrity gives those meanings merit and might.

[@frosty9442]

Seeder should change his first name to Encyclopedia. The nerd, the amazing badass nerd.

[@xbabu142x]

This is what being a debate lord looks like am glad Hasan labels the online stuff as what it is debate perverts. As someone who does do philosophical debates and enjoys it IRL it is indeed with perverse glee I can enjoy online debate. Hasan calling into crediblity his dumb himbo assessment frankly, well dumb part lol

[@usernameonutube]

Sam likes to debate dummies like Tim because he’s aware he’s a complete pseudo intellectual

[@smears6039]

@@usernameonutubepseudo in what way lmao? Have you ever even watched his show? Dude knows more about American and geo politics than almost anyone in this space

[@lockhimup-ub2tz]

Mere *moments* in, and Poole regrets it lolol

[@JLogg444]

Sam brought RECEIPTS

[@greatwhitesufi]

And the issue with people debating Sam is that Sam doesn't give any ground in debating. Like 15 mins into this video, Tim is already frustrated with Sam not agreeing with him about the death penalty.

[@raey2096]

"Oh hey when are you expecting?" Coming soon

[@SMPKarma]

re: capital punishment vs self-defence. I have taken many courses on this. Btw capital punishment is illegal here (Estonia). A stark case is: dude got attacked at night by two dudes, one of whom had a knife. The person being attacked managed to wrestle the knife from the guy attacking and stabbed him (he survived). The second guy started to run away but the dude caught up to him and stabbed him in the lower back, ultimately killing him the first stabbing was ruled as self-defence, the other one was a murder charge the state murdering a shackled prisoner is not self-defence. It's execution

[@HKim0072]

I’m 20 minutes in and feel like I’m losing brain cells listening to Tim Pool’s attempt at debating or formulating any real opinion.

[@Reprodestruxion]

Least self aware sleeper agent

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

A year ago Density was defending trump and his supporters against accusations of fascism. Nowv hes claiming trump is a fascist. Density picks positions based on how many debates he can afford to lose.

[@martinmckay2889]

There’s been a lot more authoritarian rhetoric in the past year dude. 😂 Not surprising at all.

[@FTJan]

@@martinmckay2889good job justifying masters positions. you get a treat 🍭

[@Farticuss]

I also remember Destiny calling Emma an idiot for saying Tim was getting funding from weathly backers for pushing for their interests and now we know the Russia stuff.

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

@@martinmckay2889 authoritarianism and fascism are two different things. And political ideology is not really about rhetoric it's about policy. Destiny not only claimed that the republican party wasn't fascist he's also defended the anti democratic methods that helped get trump elected like voter suppression, the electoral college and citizens united. Density been dunked on so many times re: Israel he made a career decision to become anti fascist because he couldn't afford to lose any more debates.

[@xbabu142x]

Very close conclusion just a bit of tweak there if you care to understand. The tweak makes it a bit worse of an act, as there are responsibilites of a media figure of course, and if not propogandized is a ethics violation in media inarguably. His style of debate and learning honestly great off camera, would love more of it in class, however your perception and analysis and why you made it is the reason for it being bad. Media Impact and the responsibilities of a media figure is part of the degree requirements for most jobs in media, and all actually minus assigned titles on celebrity or deed, those don't have job requirements ofc. Sam actually did a video on this thing around Ms. Kasparian if anyone wants this knowledge in greater detail fyi. I'm not surprised by Sam, but glad he made it though as a learning tool. Integrity is a word with meaning and if you know him, Sam Seder has wielded this meaning into merit, now might. On the Gaza issue there is no team Hasan versus whatever, especially IRL. Too serious, too much innocents in suffering. **This is to any dumb students of mine with the hubris to assume this is deceitful insanely corruptive secret in my life. My old ass being old enough Google did that multi account issue with KZbin is Ocaam's razor, please learn from you Zionist parents why they've never called me a sympathizer of anything but only been respectful, .** But just wanted to add on the issue since it's unfair to expect Hasan to explain this to people like you, since to me it's actually been shown this is the root issue you care about as we all should, since it causes those with the least ability to defend themselves abject suffering whether through intent or malice, both things equal is misdeed considering impact. Destiny fans not beating the socially awkward nerd on stimulant abuse allegations right now btw. I make constant comments on these weird videos that get recommended about how you can make women orgasm or men understand womanly acts like shopping. Why would I not troll nonsesne selling courses when communicaitng is the answer. I wrote that the only only method most like is that you gotta go with sacrificing 22 albino steer to the Oracle of Delphi as Zeus' insight as a deity is the most credible source, and that the rumor of the clitoris being an Island off the coast of crete further adds to the mythos. I miss the days I got called a nerd for this, as any attempt to turn any of this long winded trolling statement into a distraction from Palestine IRL is not a joking matter. Being up on both willingness to research and change opinion on being wrong, then losing the lead to Hasan fans like this is what aught to be focused on in internet drama matters if employability and success are important to people imo. Nepotism aught to never be a thing to bypas ethics requirements but with pleasure and duty I have failed entire classes of rich dipsh*ts who think they're gonna play objectivity like that with me. It's really fascinating to me honestly how the pass/fail point becomes their unwillingness to fail out of hard math versus failing ethics and redoing that class. I think in the service of academic ethics in matricultion, a student arguing one plus one is seven in service of an oral ethics argument aught to fail one of the two courses right? BTW the one and only other time this accusation I have had leveled at me at account trickery to conceal KZbin commenting was by a recovering meth addict in replapse at a rehab center I was volunteering at.

[@Dao017]

Life in prison is much worse than the death penalty.

[@fayeinoue7455]

hahaha the clip sam pulled up was an RM brown clip i heard his signature drops in it lol

[@dualsportdadz]

I hope Timmy P debates LaDron next, two of the greatest minds of our generation

[@dawnfmEnthusiast]

RM a legend

[@ZERO_O7X]

Toilets!

[@20xx-mm-dd]

uber cars

[@Farticuss]

​@@dualsportdadzLaDron would mop the floor with him.

[@jtd1349]

This hurts my brain, how does this man not know the difference between capital punishment, self defense, and murder?

[@الفيلسوفأبوفكرالزنديق]

Tool Pim thinks the beanie can protect him

[@xbabu142x]

Well Tim Poole is a more authentic heretic by action than you appear to be dude. Much more. Like in violation of both riba and usury at the same time.

[@xbabu142x]

@nothanks9503 Not from what he fears the most though, that's the thing.

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

The Beanie kid makes Jimmy Dore look like Aristotle.

[@beefeekeefee]

Nobody ever accused Tim Pool of being intelligent.

[@lestatsluv317]

Not once. 😂

[@xbabu142x]

Dim Tool ain't the brightest bulb in the shed they said

[@Staxsgurl]

Nobody: Conservatives: he’s our boy.

[@xibalbalon8668]

I think even conservatives think he's a dolt, they just find him useful. They also know no other non conservative so they buy his grift

[@ObsidianLife]

Tim’s debate tactic is to say something and then when you challenge him he says you misunderstood and try to debate semantics

[@Hunterese123]

Tim was hella nervous from jump, yeah, Sam was gonna school him, man was stuttering all over the place lol

[@Crazyjay6o1]

I will never forgive Hasan for showing me the Donald Trump song....

[@wileysells1279]

Vaush had been singing it constantly.

[@begrackled]

I figured it out at about 13:45. What Pool's angling towards is 1) the punishment for what I've allegedly done is potentially really severe, 2) I don't think I've done anything worth the death penalty, so 3) I must not have done anything wrong. He obfuscates, he sets it up with a bunch of lunatic hypothetical assertions, but that's where he's trying to get.

[@georgedennis8764]

I'm sure someone has explained this by now But on the toilet thing Majority report once covered a video where Tim Pool complained to a guest for being demonetised Pool kind of had this introspective meltdown where he just started listing things that made him unhappy in his work life One of these things was that someone had clogged the studio toilet It's been a recurring gag on majority report when they cover Pool's content ever since As a Sam Seder stan, my favourite part of the debate may be the new toilet lore

[@inferior-penguin8661]

I haven't even started this yet, but I wonder if this "debate" is why Timothy is looking to "settle down".

[@Drivelinemgt]

“It’s hard to remember the things I say” Tim pool

[@manderly33]

I love how when Tim is at sea in a convo he pulls out some little tangentially related factoid.

[@Rexini_Kobalt]

mfw tim is so poor now from no longer having russian money that he finally has to debate sam,, one of his biggest fears

[@applecatnyango]

Timmy's got nothing more to lose, I suppose

[@TheRealSonicBeats]

A snickers bar?? Bruh i havent paid for dog food in like a year

[@howlingwolf7280]

The whole crime panic tactic is awful. In the uk we have the same issue with the media amplifying any statistic that could cause fear. In law, there is an expression “good cases, make bad law” which broadly means focusing on anomalies will lead to bad long term consequences.

[@firststepshardest1656]

Tim Pooles brain is cobwebs and tumbleweeds and crickets. After listening to him for 15 minutes, i can barely form a sentence.

[@Katastrophe9009]

Less than a minute into the interview and he's already got Tim stumbling. This gon' be a good one. *grabs popcorn*

[@RadarFinsR]

Sam being so calm while like scrolling through his laptop being like "I'm not sure if I have that specific clip ready" and Tim just starts panicking. UH AH UH AH UH AH I'm not usually as definitive on things like this well...

[@uncomfortabletruth5915]

During occupy WS, I used to respect Poole . My god..

[@ShaiGuyz]

tim could've avoided this whole conversation if he said "i misspoke, my bad"

[@julianbatcheler9970]

Yes all he needed to do was say: ‘yes but I changed my mind’ it could have ended that issue at that moment.

[@fullmetal929]

The funny thing here is that that woulda been the perfect excuse, but he didn't think about it because he so very obviously meant what he said. Instead, he decided to twist himself into a pretzel trying to explain that what he said was actually right and in line with his beliefs, hahaha. Like Sam said, his beliefs and stances vary from instance to instance, and he just says whatever comes to mind to maintain a certain brand.

[@julianbatcheler9970]

@@fullmetal929 people like Tim value their own opinions so much they don’t understand that people can be fluid and see things differently from one moment to the next. To admit he had changed his mind to most of us would be the logical reply. But it’s like ego death to people like Tim. I think maybe he is becoming more moderate with age and finds it hard to understand… and that he is allowed to change his views and might actually get some positive reactions if he did say: as I get older I see more what is important and I am less of a right wing reactionary.

[@jrodgers211]

I stole some shrimp cocktail from self checkout. The sticker was missing, I’m not going to price check myself, that’s what you get for making me self checkout

[@Happycat8385]

My self checkouts weight everything after it gets scanned so if weight does match the scan an associate has to come over to the register. Now these same stores allow you to print your own produce stickers while shopping. If you print a bunch of pound to pound and a half produce stickers then do your pick out your meats and happen to see a pack of meat that is the same weight as one of your produce stickers it voukd accidentally fall on the meat package covering the meat packages sticker. One always seems to fall on some of my meats ;)

[@xbabu142x]

Don't worry I've actually gone and tried to return to pay on this one and got told to go away. As a business I'd recommed first to incentivize your own employees to care about these things first if they are of concern. Which includes stopping media figures from yapping on this stuff. I've shopped at none of the big retailers for the many years this has been happening simply due to not wanting to even recall this tired bs lol. I buy local and or amazon, it's not a price thing, local is nice because you actually run into a lot of stores who have excited employees who are happy to be there due to being able to make money. You'll actually see this at any chain with proper commission even. The best and highest earning sellers seem to always be giving away items at no commision to those unable but able to make high commissions on richer folk with same quality of service. It's not deceit even. For example if I am buying furniture for a business, if a salesman comes up to me with their actual numbers, which not really that necessary everyone knows lol, more importantly explains all their products they offer in the form of my scope of business and values, that's a sale and I'm back there regardless of price. It's all dependent on management right, if you put up all these stupid metircs as tantamount to praise even have low salaries and then want to yap on and on about loss of merchandise, when I know the dollar cost to make and transport that stuff, it's even a bad decision its a smart business decision. Amazom runs their busienss better than these big box companies. Do you wanna know what Amazon has said about these return scams, nothing they've put up road blocks to it, while maintaing service level for returns even. For real have some dude with hair and women issues tell me I need to care about your merchandise is offputting as hell.

[@JamesMorgan-ne8qu]

48.55 Sam didn't flush. Left Tim a little present.

[@ericroman9126]

I seen some videos today of Halloween costumes of riders in the NYC subway. Everybody was chill, laughing, and taking pics.

[@meggie11102]

Wdym I got murdered 4 times this week alone :( (On a seriousness note, the rise in subway pushing is directly correlated to the publication of it. They used to not publish these incidents because studies showed they inspire more incidents since the pushers tend to be mentally ill and easily influenced. So the actual question that should be discussed isn’t why crime is high, since it isn’t, but why the media did a sudden about face on publicizing subway pushings since Adams got in office and the head of the police union started bitching about possible budget cuts)