Who Am I? (Nan Yar?) - The Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi

“Who am I?” is the title given to a set of questions and answers bearing on Self-enquiry. The questions were put to Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi by Sri M. Sivaprakasam Pillai around the year 1902.
Translated by Dr. T. M. P. MAHADEVAN
I have omitted most of the questions for ease of flow - the answers are direct in answering the questions.
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[@ranivergis473]

To think that this whole world is just an imagination of the mind, every person that we come across is just our perceptiveness, every happening is just a perceived expression of mind, is so freeing. There is nothing to criticise, nothing to condemn, nothing to boast of, no achievements, no failures. How beautiful the world becomes in the mind. Only love & happiness remains-not for anyone or anything or any reason in particular. Just happiness & love as a feeling remains. Not in the mind or brain or heart-it is just there for its own Self!

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Beautiful reflection - thanks for sharing

[@richardbelisle7626]

The experience here for no body is everything remains including the arising of fear and anger, but since there is no one here to take claim for them they arise express and go...so in this since one could say that there is a under lying peace....peace beyond understanding...a young man named Jesus called it....☯️🕉❤️🙏🏼

[@kippapao]

"just another thought albeit beautifull!"

[@elizadaphne5501]

ALL IS TRUE William Shakespeare

[@iulian-iliechiricuta1547]

Thank you so much!

[@hiltont9631]

And there we were.... Arguing all day every day with a mirage, not knowing it was just a dream. The part I love the most is the ongoing daily spontaneous laughter at the whole situation 🤣🙏

[@TylerK-vy8dm]

What an absolutely beautiful game this is! The “design” is breathtaking… to exit the game we must use the thing which keeps us in the game, brilliant

[@hossainahmed4017]

that's cant be possible. mirage appears only in sight no one can touch or experience or feel it but we can touch the roughly world when we close our eye and ear sight still there is object. therefore this world a mirage???

[@Kevn1215]

The fact the thoughts arise from the heart space was incredibly enlightening for me. It freed me from feeling so stuck in my head once I began to trace back the thoughts to their origin.

[@Bmarker299]

Dear Samaneri: your readings are invaluable. I listen to you as often as I can during the day and listen to some of them over and over - in my car, when walking and even in the gym. I am now substituting movies and TV with your readings. Thank you ever so much

[@myselfasevan]

this is exactly how you have to do it... listen as much as you can and you will achieve self-realization.

[@johndoe-gt6gp]

Your renderings of these beloved texts are truly a Godsend. They continue to move me to tears with every listening.

[@SamaneriJayasara]

That's lovely John - the words and meaning are clearly going deep into your heart. May these blessings of Ramana's continue to flow to you.

[@prabhjotkaur2349]

How

[@accelwell7018]

@@prabhjotkaur2349 just inquire within.

[@sridharrchari]

Amazing hearing experience. The pauses inbetween are so apt and well spaced that one can reflect truly on the Truth. Thanks so much

[@RajGiandeep]

@@sridharrchari the pauses are expertly done. I agree

[@helenemartinez291]

I don't know how you achieve it , but I've listened to many teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi, and when I listen to you reading them, I immediately reach a very special state of consciousness. A kind of transe state in wich everything you read reaches a deeper part of the psyche. Thank you so much.

[@myselfasevan]

its her accent ;)

[@AE0N777]

@@myselfasevan 😂😂😂

[@petrutaneacsu431]

It’s her divine gift for humanity to help heal

[@mikeydeshore3971]

that's a good sign my friend keep going, the path will clear and the Self will rveal itself as 'I' in all its glory. you will laugh at yourself after.

[@user-ve7fq9yo6e]

I love you ❤

[@ricardomusicdoc7227]

Too good to be true: too close to be noticed: too simple for this clever brain. May your blessings be increasingly abundant for making this available. ❤🎉

[@lizbmusic11]

I am so grateful for your uploads of these beautiful teachings. I listen daily and often through the night. Thank you.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

...Lost and.. 🙏found🙏..and Lost...

[@edward2175]

Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu The audio quality is perfect on this sublime teaching. I keep finding more pearls as I dive deeper.

[@artadmir]

I do not remember posting a comment after being so moved by your renderings. They have broaden my awareness of Ramana's teaching. Thank you for this most beautiful work you have done and how others will benefit from, on their path. Your voice and the music is the manifestation of true inspiration. Thank you once again and I also enjoyed other recordings that you have produced. Blessings upon you.

[@vidyanarasimhan1575]

Listening daily to your wonderful recordings on Bhagavan’s sacred words. Feel so much gratitude to you. It’s a labor of love on your part, sharing with everyone so unstintingly. Thank you ever so much, 🙏🙏

[@jodiallaway1909]

My soul sings when I listen to these teachings. I want to completely submerge myself in them. I suffer from anxiety and depression. When I listen to these teachings I feel deep shifts and relief. I am indeed a recipient of compassion, and I suffer less.

[@mikeydeshore3971]

ramanamaharshi will save you as he did myself. keep going my friend deeper and deeper you will be astounded when you dissapear and you are that Self revealed. Glorious. There will be no more anxiety and depression just bliss of your own beign and joy.

[@TylerK-vy8dm]

Ask your mind to bring you the sufferer… and see if it can. To suffer requires someone to suffer. I hope this points to path that reveals the illusions we maintain in the mind

[@nothingevermatters..1109]

Ramana is the only link I have to my "self"..

[@AE0N777]

This is the best video on KZbin.

[@MrManusmcdaid]

These readings are healing me..thanks from Manus

[@lalithathiru3171]

yes millions thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[@RajGiandeep]

Such a lovely recording & teaching 🙏 something I will listen to over & over. Very grateful for you sharing.

[@fredfarmer5952]

I adore your voice.... and the wise pacing you deliver words.

[@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496]

We all do ❤

[@andrea_baiocchi]

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[@angelajanebowes]

I Love You ❤️ Thank you so very much 🌹

[@claudelebel49]

Driving me ever more deeply into Stillness.

[@gastronomiayachtclubpuntad6138]

🙏 thank you for puting this forth with your soothing voice

[@apurva_joshi_]

You are great. I wish I could somehow immortalize this channel!

[@kevinross4447]

I love all the teachers you have exposed me to. Truly a life changing experience for me. I keep coming back to self enquiry. In whole I'm like a starving man come to dinner rudely devouring everything in reach.

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Devour away Kevin! 😁

[@monstersaint]

God bless Samaneri, this is an incredibly helpful reading. Illuminating.

[@peterlanges3944]

This is a great service that you are doing, thank you so much from Maggie and Peter.

[@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop]

It is truly a gift to have found this channel, bless you for being

[@mindthegap-spiritualcomedy1130]

Thank you so much for these readings of Divine Wisdom which are beautiful beyond words 🙏🕉

[@theometh8716]

I cannot thank you enough! Your offerings are resonating so deeply... opening me to the joy of awakening into being and pure consciousness. Love, appreciation and thanks! Harold

[@zamoraobed]

I am the light and these pointers take me to liberation every time and also into loving tears. I feel blessed to listen to this!!

[@blankalitvajova4338]

Each reading is a such a pearl. Thank you for sharing your gift and devotion. So beautiful.

[@HelpingInTheUniverse]

gratitude and namaste :)

[@frominspiredtoinspiring2258]

I wish I could relay to you, the way I feel when your reading this❣️

[@MonolithMike]

This recording literally saved my life. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@yumsri]

Eternally grateful for your beautiful meditative divine voice sharing the Truth from enlightened Masters. Thank you thank you thank you!

[@jonnyb12]

Thank you. Your video and Bhagavan's teachings are of so much help and comfort.

[@elizadaphne5501]

All so perfect Pranams 🙏🌻

[@violungu3246]

Thank You! 🙏🏼❤️

[@michellesmith2824]

Who am I? Am I the awareness reflected when I look into a baby's eyes? Perhaps I am the stillness and strength of an old tree, Or the joy felt hearing a bird's song. Life's mystery is all around and within us! The beauty of an open flower fills my soul. Blue sky and night stars, calm my spirit. Such a wonder to behold in every moment - if we look. No reason to search anymore. For we are the question and the answer. We are the Universe, this Oneness, this Awe! Each an essential thread in the sacred tapestry of Life. We are all this and that. Together as one, united by love. Be quiet, still, silent and see The dancing light upon all, and just Be! Your channel is like a soothing balm to my soul 🙏🙏 Immense gratitude from my heart ❤❤

[@parmydeol6966]

Waheguru ❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@BillSikes.]

I love this narration, Profound beyond words thanks so much for these uploads 🙏🙏🙏

[@mayankkumar8164]

Such spiritual voice..Great help in absence if true Gurus in these times

[@carllonehall2435]

As self is no-thing....your presence is appreciated

[@seydapehlivan5073]

Love you Love you Love you All..who brought me those listenings That it itself.. Nothing else..🌷

[@yeshechodzom]

Thank you so much ! You irradiate the profound teaching, thé Heart in the Heart, by the means of your voice and tranquillity these videos. What else could we offer to our world.......with my deepest love! 🙏💜💜💜

[@khitishkakar5960]

Cant thank you enough 🙏🙏

[@swingtradingpsychology]

Finally understood why 'humans' a driven by desires, very powerful explanations

[@FernandaDMA]

This is so deliciously deep! Thank you 🙏🏻

[@mikeydeshore3971]

ramana is the best. cant have enough o his words. pure grace from the divine itself. thankyou or these jewels samenara, you deliver his teachings to point.

[@AMIR-zp4ww]

Another gift from you Jayasara! May bless of all these great beings be with your each moment !🌹

[@OfCourseICan]

So grateful for this. Wonderful reading by a fellow Aussie and after listening to several readings I am starting to get it! I will continue to listen to more readings but it is making a profound impact on me. There is SO much in this unique work. I do hope people get what I am getting. The feeling is blissful! Thank You again.

[@devinramos6317]

Wow!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@jrobertgadams7766]

December 24th, 2023 Still coming back to your Ramana’s videos / audios. This one in particular. Over the fact that it is Ramana, your voice and your Presence keep touching me deeply. Once again, Thank you for your amazing and impressive channel. ❤🙏

[@myselfasevan]

I got chills at around 46:00. "The world should be considered, like a dream" 😴

[@paulstoran7183]

Thankyou thankyou thankyou

[@humansky4661]

Yes..Be still

[@fizywig]

At 26 min utes to 28 minutes in above Ramana states clearly that meditative practices are essential to create a sattvuc mind , almost wholly essential for western minds, in order to allow novice to get self inquiry successfully off the ground.This is in line with traditional vedanta practice philosophy, I.e. yoga is a preliminary requirement for self inquiry. This idea of graduation is for some reason anathema to the direct path neo-advaita approaches current in the west. E.G Tony Parsons

[@eonoe11]

I think there is a reason for it being anathema, this idea of graduation, when one considers knowledge as either existing or not! One can not partially know something. Either it is known or only suspected, no matter how strongly. It can not be both. The eternal nature of the Self, unchangeable, indestructible and not constructable, once realized fully, needs nothing. The answer to all self inquiry is the one asking, and to simply recognize this precludes any need for gradient activity. Kind of a conundrum? Should meditation be time spent in knowledge, then it could also be called knowing. Should meditation be time spent in the quest for knowledge, then it is merely Illusory action.

[@leatui7]

@@eonoe11 You might want to see some of Swami Sarvapriyananda's videos as he brings together both your view and fizywig's. For those for whom it is appropriate, one does not need gradual practice. For those for whom the direct path has not helped, gradual practice helps. in fact, if you look more closely, Krishna Menon (Atmananda) who developed the direct path, was quite open to practice, as are his students Francis Lucille and Rupert Spira. Still, I'm not aware of anyone who has integrated both approaches within the context of Advaita Vedanta as simply and clearly as Swami Sarvapriyananda.

[@raquelnavarro1380]

Bhagavan 💖💖💖 I AM THAT 💖💖💖💖 Thank you

[@rishikesh_p]

❤️❤️❤️

[@bjk7797]

Whatever you conceive, perceive or experience is your mind only ---Nisargadatta Maharaj

[@1966denis]

Blessings

[@jimmystalberg8543]

Thank you 🙏

[@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496]

When I look at the “world” without the mind there is nothing there yet I exist. Without labels and names there’s nothing and no thing yet I Am. Looking at it, at zero, I see nothing and no thing. Looking through zero, I see everything. Dear god please destroy this mind. Shiva, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, please come. Guide, direct, show me the path. How would you have me be this day?

[@emaho8210]

Thank you 🙏🏻💕

[@andrewhiggins1975]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@denylosyer4953]

🙏🌍🙏🥰🦋

[@VenusLover17]

Thanks!

[@paradopeindonesia]

This is truth 🔥

[@AnuraagGupta]

I Witness it all The remembrance and The forgetting Of the fact That I Witness it all

[@YogaVideothek]

Who Am I, Nan Yat, Wer bin ich? A small book that replaces Neti Neti and points to the I feeling on Atma Vichara. This is more than a finger pointing to the moon, this finger points through the moon into the heart. It is hardly explained anywhere better than in Maharshi's Gospel.

[@esneliamunoz4475]

🕉🕉🕉🙏

[@richstureman4229]

🙏❤️

[@yokali1481]

❤calming 🙏🏾

[@angelajanebowes]

WOW

[@allthesame3856]

♥️♥️♥️

[@paulinebryant1549]

Samaneri Jayasara I love you but I just don't get no reality. 🙏🧡☮️

[@richstureman4229]

🙏

[@Fastinsilence]

🙏☺️

[@fleurmariaalmeida8960]

💗

[@machonatal2043]

❤

[@marianrose1259]

💜🌻🙏🏻🌻💜

[@soulsofalltrades]

I is a simulated self of mental projection. The mind which projects has no owner, it is itself the thing projected. But where does the projection come from? Well, no brain, no projection of a separate self. Now, brain is an expression of intelligence, perhaps.

[@egoillusion5734]

Namaste

[@maheshseshadri490]

👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

[@skyefarnam7857]

This mind, this ego, this body are not you yet spirit chose them to experience a contrast to better understand its self. To intellectually reject everything but the spirit is to turn your back on it and it's purpose in this state. Go with it, except it, be a good person who wants well for itself and others or else you will become an enlightened being who doesn't brush their teeth or do anything else.

[@skyefarnam7857]

He is suggesting our preferred state should be dormancy in a world we were sent to in order to thrive. That doesn't make sense.

[@SavingAmerica]

Namaskar

[@realfacts7763]

Thank you so much, Samaneri, for your wonderful reading!! There's this question: I've heard talks about "Parallel Realities" by newer spiritual teachers online, yet I've never heard Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta Maharaj ever mentioned about "Parallel Realities". Is this a new theory/philosophy or has it been around for a long time? Is there really such thing as "Parallel Realities"? Hopefully, with your deep knowledge of spirituality you can clear this up (Others are also welcomed to clarify). Thanks so much in advance, everyone!

[@SamaneriJayasara]

I think the reason you've never heard Ramana or Nisargadatta talk about this concept or phenomena is that they would probably say (and excuse my presumptuousness here) "Have you figured out your existing reality and learnt to master that yet?!" They always encouraged people not to bother getting lost in whether there were past lives to remember, spiritual powers to attain, blissing out trips in meditation, and so on. A recent recording I did from Ramana talks specifically about that and clairvoyant powers. The way the Buddha taught was the same. The latter saying that if you had a poison arrow stuck in your arm would you waste your time asking how the arrow got there, who shot it, what make it was, etc.. All the great teachers were concerned with teaching one main thing and that was how to be Liberated from samsara here and now. Everything else is just a distraction and a waste of time. Personally I know little about parallel realities so can't help you but you could Google it! 🙂

[@swingtradingpsychology]

Parralel realities are just another illusion, the purpose is to eradicate all illusions. All the Great Master said that it's a waste of time, just another trick of the mind.

[@AE0N777]

Hello dear friend, I was wondering if I could posts small sections of this for my tiktok in order to share this wisdom with its rightfull audience:) is that okay? No problem if you prefer I keep it to myself!

[@SamaneriJayasara]

I think I would prefer not to have it on Tiktok if you don't mind please. I don't really like that platform. Cheers

[@AE0N777]

@@SamaneriJayasara gotcha🥰 no problem friend

[@khalilboughzou3092]

Is there a book or a formal guide to fundamentally understand what is the Bhagavan and Samsara . I am deeply interested in Spirituality it's been more than 2 years now , however the concept of rebirth and that the whole word is imaginary seems more like a belief or concept that I do not know is true or not (just a belief system that is not true) , Is there a path to take in order to investigate are these real or just concepts & beliefs ?

[@Sumanbhattaraipalpali]

I would like to ask which answer do we expect from who am I question since I am asking since 12 years but didn’t get an answer since I am trying at work while at home but still I didn’t feel stillness but it quickly fades away so what’s the answer of the question who am I so we have to ask the mind of right heart since the end point of breathe is also guide to self so please guide me in this path. Regards, Suman from Uk but originally from Lumbini zone.I tried in Lumbini as well but still mind is giving answer.

[@danielbravo8350]

sorry but i can't find link to downloads, I am interested in the text only if possible... thanks !

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Hi Daniel, the text is easily download able from the internet. Just google it. The links to the downloads on my google drive you can find under the Community tab of the main page of my YT channel. You need to open the blurb - read more- and scroll right down to the end of the page.

[@spiritually_curious]

Can you tell me the name of the song playing is the background. Thank you.

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Music by: Meditative Mind - Tibetan Bowls - 396Hz kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqXPpYSjlq6BqaM

[@spiritually_curious]

Samaneri Jayasara thank you for the video and the response -

[@gireeshneroth7127]

That's the true truth. Which is why I keep saying this that it is consciousness vs consciousness as far as subject and object dualities are concerned. You are not you, nor the universe is not it. Consciousness in a mind posture makes the difference between itself and itself within itself. ബോധാനുഭവമാണ് ജഗത്. ജീവാനുഭവമല്ല. എന്തെന്നാൽ ബോധാനുഭവമാണ് ജീവത്വം. സർവാത്മകമായ ഒരേയൊരു വസ്തുതന്നെ ഈ വിധമെല്ലാം പ്രകശിക്കുന്നു. ഒന്നുമൊരിക്കലും ജനിക്കുന്നുമുമില്ല മരിക്കുന്നുമില്ല.

[@tonygiannetto8490]

First I would like to thank you for your help. If you are not comfortable doing this I understand completely. This isn’t live Satsang I know, but it is Satsang. I come to the sacred ground to ask another question. I will try n be clear n concise, no fishing trip. After listening to your new reading of Annamalai Swami, like 10 times, what struck me at first was he tweaked the Masters method, but it was very good. I love that reading! This open me up enough to hear something. This is fresh of the press, just started to do it. I struggle with the inquire but this came up. The Christian bible in Genesis right after the fall. God asks Adam ‘who told you, you were naked’. I don’t want to be deceived on some rabbit trail n go down the rabbit hole, or just waste my time, so I am asking now, at the seeing of this. For me ‘who told you’ or ' who said that' chops both the thought & the person much more simply. If you would check this out, see what happens for you it would be much appreciated. If you don’t like this I will remove the question, no problem.

[@tonygiannetto8490]

When you say who said that, no I or me or you is involved

[@tonygiannetto8490]

ok here is my experience. When I say who said that, it takes me to emptiness, looking for an invader but finding only emptiness

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Hi Tony, thanks for sharing your recent insights with these parallel teachings. Yes, whatever works for one to take you deeper into the understanding is great. I am so often seeing all the parallels between my tradition - Theravada Buddhism - and Dzogchen, Advaita, Christian Mystics, Sufis, etc... that it is clear that Truth is just One. But we have a gizillion words, frameworks, concepts, and structures to explain it and point to it. Thus is the complex and complicated nature of our minds. However, it also reflects such wonderful diversity of culture, language, and spirit. Hence why I choose to represent them all on my channel. I get delight and insight out of all of them. With all good wishes in your unfolding insights.

[@tonygiannetto8490]

If I may say something to fellow Christians that read this. As when the Israelites were to utterly destroy the inhabitants of the land, after crossing the Jordan River, so that they wouldn't be a thorn in their side. So is it important to destroy every thought, or they will be a thorn in your foot or side.

[@Machielovic]

@@tonygiannetto8490 true as the thought i is destroyed as well

[@SarahDale111]

I guess I'm screwed for not eating a sattvic diet. But I was screwed when I was. Bipolar they said. I see it as an energetic thing...not a mood thing. I'd be so high, I thought I was like Jesus...on a mission to save the world. I have found that meat is very grounding. I was able to get off the meds entirely.

[@ConsumerCosmos]

how are you now? is your condition better?

[@SarahDale111]

@@ConsumerCosmos Oh, yes...I'm good now. I recently upped my fat and sea salt intake, and I'm even better than before!

[@howardnelson2942]

Be in a hurry to worry. When done with all that, re be That. Get It?

[@fabiomaiolo4593]

What did Ramana mean when he said: "destroy the I thought? the I thought no longer rises". Does the simple knowledge "I AM", the awareness of being remain in the one who is enlightened? I suppose if someone had asked Ramana, "are you aware?" He would have replied: "yes, I am aware". Does the mere use of thought as a function remain? Can you help me clarify this doubt? Thanks.

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Hi Fabio, your questions and wanting to know what it is like for the 'one' who is 'enlightened' are problematic because it is coming from the same mind and thought processes that are the very veil of this enlightenment. Enlightenment cannot be understood through words, reason or the intellect. Although the Masters must use words to help us, they are mere pointers to that which is beyond the mind. If you asked such a question to Ramana, it would be unlikely that he would state "I am aware" but rather would ask, "Who wants to know?" Stay with this very enquiry. The assumption that there is a someone here, a person, an unchanging entity or soul is the root of the delusion. It is this that must be transcended, but YOU can't do it as there is no you to do it. It unveils itself through Grace (in Ramana's language) and when wisdom and understanding is fully ripe, and the mind is purified. I trust these words will be of no help! All the best

[@fabiomaiolo4593]

@@SamaneriJayasara Hi, in the meantime, thank you for your reply. My question was much simpler: if by asking a question to "someone", that "someone" answers it means that "someone" understood the question and gave an answer. Here by "someone" I do not mean a psychological, individual entity but simply being aware. Even when you say: destroy all thoughts it means that you are aware of this and can still potentially speak and somehow try to verbalize. Ramana too, if I am not mistaken, when describing his first experience of "death" as a teenager: "one entity died and another arose saying I am I". If we deny this, in my humble opinion, we fall into a strange neoadvaita language where "no one is, no one can do anything" which, even if I sense the meaning, I find it a pseudomistic and counterproductive language. Thanks.

[@AE0N777]

31:48

[@MonolithMike]

51:15

[@burningknuckle26]

How do I think from the heart and stay there? I do not want to be in the mind for the mind causes depression

[@SamaneriJayasara]

Indeed, the mind can be either our greatest enemy or friend. To 'stay in the heart' and abide there as Ramana encourages us, means to allow the thought waves to settle and to stop identifying with them as 'me' or 'mine'. They are simply energy vibrations which in Reality have no real substance to them, yet we give them power by consistently focusing on them and identifying and clinging to them. See this habitual pattern and behaviour that happens, wake up to it, and in seeing it clearly without judging, condemning, pushing away with aversion, or clinging, thoughts will naturally dissolve. It does take some commitment though to be present and aware. I wish you all inner peace and contentment.

[@howardnelson2942]

Remember love, remember laughter, remember them now and forever after. Continue to exhale until you must inhale your Self (or the other way around). Remember, stupidity does not really exist either.

[@JohnSmith-wp7vf]

I don' t understand why would we call "material" world real or unreal, when it is both, constantly changing. Only change is real in material world, and that change us very real. Sure, there is observer who gives meaning to it, but there is still "it" outside observer in the form of vibrations. You can't step in the same river twice, but there is stll a river. I am not saying it is more important than our center in the heart, our own immovable center through which we percive this reality is infinitely more important.

[@SamaneriJayasara]

I think the Master's are pointing to the fact that once you fully realise, you realise there is no river. We are dreaming it into existence.

[@carllonehall2435]

There is no self there is no river

[@mohanbala3743]

Dear John, Edwin Schrodinger was the first scientist to recognise the impermanence of the external..Ramana does not say it is unreal, only that it is impermanent, uncertain and inabsolute. Look up Schrodingers uncertainty principle. Perhaps in acknowledgement, he named his dog 'Atma'

[@JohnSmith-wp7vf]

@@mohanbala3743 It is so beautiful how universe speaks through us. Precisely at the moment you wrote this message about impermanence/uncerteanty I am reading for the first time about Shiva Nataraya, lord of the dance. 🙏

[@Machielovic]

@@mohanbala3743 Ramana did say that sometimes but real or not it is more important who knows it? There is only one Self that knows. It is in the last verse of Ulladu Narpadu 40 verses on Reality "If it is said that there are three kinds of Liberation with form without form or with and without form let me tell you that the extinction of three froms of Liberation is the real Liberation ".