Watch the Kona N fans become the Golf GTI sore fans 😂
@bearpaw91502 жыл бұрын
next time you should drive both cars, one dig and one roll each.
@F80mthree2 жыл бұрын
@@bearpaw9150 next time you shouldn’t cry in the live chat 😂
@bearpaw91502 жыл бұрын
@@F80mthree umm no one's crying maroon, just stating facts.
@MikeKonkle2 жыл бұрын
@@bearpaw9150 - LOL @ maroon
@marshall4352 жыл бұрын
Sir what's the point of racing a car with 245 hp to 276 hp you know damn well if It was the clubsport there with 300 hp you will get smoked.
@revelare_xvii62692 жыл бұрын
The Kona N shouldn’t even be possible in times like these. But thank God Hyundai went through with it.
@Tiralful Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was found to buy one summer 2021 when it was supposed to come out. Glad in didn't wait and got a GTI. Sitting at 380-390 hp running low 12's on street tires.
@wildfrisco2 жыл бұрын
In the first two standing races Sam's reaction was slower than the GTI's driver. Sam's reaction for the second race was even slower than the first race, and you can see the result at the finish line. And in most of the angles shown the dig/start was cut out (except for the first angle of race 1 & 2). Each tenth of a second delay is a whole car length difference. Someone mentioned in the first race launch control wasn't even activated (no bouncing of the rev limiter).
@chungsuh11972 жыл бұрын
Yep, noticed that with his Elantra N video too.
@jessizzle55752 жыл бұрын
he gets the best cars for comparison, but he can't drive lol he needs another driver
@jillthompson61102 жыл бұрын
@@jessizzle5575 His problem is he talks too much and his attention is always on the other car that's racing him. He needs to focus on his own driving.
@jessizzle55752 жыл бұрын
@@jillthompson6110 he just needs someone with a good reaction time. The kona n is pretty close to the elantra n in performance, the kona just has a little more weight. I've seen multiple elantra n vs gti videos, and the en usually wins by car lengths. Idk how he manages to perform so badly and give us these skewed results lol but i really don't see the kona struggling here with a good driver
@nickob2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the channel but it is kind of frustrating to see such unequal starts from a dig.
@chuckcribbs3398 Жыл бұрын
The Kona N would decimate a GTI on racetrack. Check out the Car & Driver Lightning Lap results. The Kona is very quick.
@LoXHumaN2 жыл бұрын
Sam losing 3 of the 4 races, not surprised 😏 if he was in the GTi the Kona would have won most of the races haha
@blarghman3322 жыл бұрын
He’s really slow to react
@YAsM-bk5kz2 жыл бұрын
Add to this the driver's weight.
@oleglog69272 жыл бұрын
@@YAsM-bk5kz 20-30 kg between derivers make no difference
@YAsM-bk5kz2 жыл бұрын
@@oleglog6927 It makes brtother. ... Gtr nesmo is less weight than the standard Gtr 30kg and the difference is 200,000 dollars and makes 30hp extra.
@oleglog69272 жыл бұрын
@@YAsM-bk5kz there is some truth in your words, I notice my car empty fuel tank runs faster than full. I can feel it but full fuel tank is like 50 kg difference.
@CaliforniaKonaN2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo, thank you for showing more Kona N drag races!
@dubber4life2 жыл бұрын
First run launch control was not active on the Kona N, you didn’t hear it bouncing the limiter like the second run
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
still failed
@ryanm9628 Жыл бұрын
On the track, the Kona N beat the GTI by 5 seconds! Check car and driver. That is what the car was built for.
@edmc15112 жыл бұрын
A nice thing about roll racing a DCT N, push the NGS button before staring the roll race. It will drop you to the optimum gear for your current speed, plus you get an extra 10hp as a bonus 😊
@lexman86782 жыл бұрын
Stop making up excuses lol 10 hp what a joke lol
@edmc15112 жыл бұрын
@@lexman8678 lol. I am not making excuses at all. I am just stating a fact on how the dct in an N car can be operated. 🤷🏻♂️
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
@@lexman8678I saw a test where it improved the 0-60 time by half a second so this is one of those cases where the marketing says 10hp but the reality is a bit better.
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
@@lexman8678 just read what he's saying and be educated, you'll be alright🤔
@nighthawk00772 жыл бұрын
@@S8ER 0-60 is fully dependent on the launch.
@TheBreakfastLover2 жыл бұрын
If only the Kona N was AWD it would be the perfect winter car for me.
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Same
@MikeKonkle2 жыл бұрын
If it was AWD I guess it would be a Golf R competitor. FWIW I think the GTI may squeak a win. Will be interesting nonetheless.
@DARKEST_VANTA2 жыл бұрын
Yup they missed the mark. AWD would've sold a LOT of Konas
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeKonkle Wrong this race is not how they are rated. The Kona is rated and proven by many other videos on youtube to be faster than the gti
@MikeKonkle2 жыл бұрын
@@vroomgc - yeah very odd... maybe it has to do with aerodynamics. IDK. They both look like fun anyways. I would choose GTI or Elantra N just for the manual transmission. Can't wait for the GR Corolla. Have a great Monday!
@vladymirvernet90032 жыл бұрын
The Kona is my favorite little SUV it’s so cute ☺️
@drumflip12532 жыл бұрын
Own one it’s fantastic.
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
@@drumflip1253 it's a worse gti
@drumflip12532 жыл бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 I’ve owned several GTI’s. Great car but that new infotainment is an absolute disaster. The Kona N is so much funner, way better exhaust notes, more raw and more adjustable to drive than any GTI and that’s what I look for in the hot hatch I drive.
@naturalgainzzz70052 жыл бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 wayyyyyyyy better warranty then a GTI tho lol
@markc67149 ай бұрын
You should be swapping drivers to eliminate driver variance
@craigbrown56673 ай бұрын
Only reason the Kona lost the drag races were due to your reaction times 🤣🤣
@602ouge Жыл бұрын
I’d bet money the Kona wasn’t on fuel learn. So probably only 15-16 pounds of boost
@shitdie-w7o Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly. It's a big difference!
@nikolawandler93995 ай бұрын
What does that mean?
@cedricbourgoin14065 ай бұрын
@@nikolawandler939914-15 psi of boost not learn and 18-19 psi of boost when learned it make a little difference
@pipiaakotze5 ай бұрын
@@cedricbourgoin1406 the car can learn? can you please explain it?
@punemax2 ай бұрын
@@shitdie-w7othe dyno showed its a 30 whp difference.
@gionieves2646 Жыл бұрын
Sam cant launch that Kona N for his life!!!!
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
This race makes zero sense, if you watch the Elantra vs GTI race it was no contest, then you watch this and the Kona cant keep up. Yet all evidience out on the web shows there is very little difference between the Kona and Elantra. And the gti is also rated slower over the 1/4 than the Kona. So there is a real mess to this outcome and especially as compared to the Elantras race. You can look at other youtube content to see what I'm talking about.
@toddstevens85062 жыл бұрын
Definitely, and they never mention which traction control settings are used. I have a mk8 GTI and you can use ESC off or ESC sport for launch control, the latter limiting how much wheelspin which is better on lower grip pavement. The explanation for not using manual mode was completely evasive and incorrect as this would take shift/downshifts out of the equation and most dual clutches auto-upshift which would simplify things. I think this could be a good channel if they would rationalize their procedures instead of half-assing it.
@keving52862 жыл бұрын
Same goes for mk7.5 golf r losing to Elantra n, makes no sense, I’m actually wonder if that EN was tuned.
@KO-iw3vu2 жыл бұрын
Just by looking at the kona and the Elantra you can tell HUGE differences that would affect performance. Aerodynamics and ride height play a role just like horsepower and weight.
@toddstevens85062 жыл бұрын
@@keving5286 Yeah, if you look at quarter mile times for both they're not even close, roll races should be close though.
@toddstevens85062 жыл бұрын
I watched the first drag race again and I'm pretty sure the tc was off which explains why the gti spun it's tires and then bogged, definitely not the fastest way to launch.
@johnphom11362 жыл бұрын
I like that this channel drag races everything they can get their hands on lol.
@dreaminginink20292 жыл бұрын
Kona N looks like fun, but dealers want $5k over sticker in the US for them. Ridiculous!
@vroomgc Жыл бұрын
I got mine at MSRP in Ontario Canada
@dreaminginink2029 Жыл бұрын
@@vroomgc this isn’t common at all, but good for you.
@patricktiu2345 Жыл бұрын
I fought the dealer… they brought it down to 2500 but included ceramic coating and extended warranty. Bought in california too
@viru520002 жыл бұрын
Hyundai/Kia launch control is pretty notorious for having a delay and not building boost. There's a reason all the fastest Stingers don't use it.
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
sad to see it get pulled on the roll race though..
@viru520002 жыл бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Aero really takes it's toll on SUVs...
@brandonvo97272 жыл бұрын
This is interesting! Elantra took out the GTI no sweat but the Kona N seems to be a totally different story.
@Asiansxsymbol2 жыл бұрын
No way, Captain Obvious!
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
The weight isn't THAT much more, engine/trans are the same and tires are basically 1 size smaller but different make. I would still like to know the mileage on the KN because I've already seen KN vids of it running mid to low 13's.
@LoXHumaN2 жыл бұрын
@@Asiansxsymbol lol he thought he did something 😂
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
Nope it comes down to something smells wrong ;)
@brandonvo97272 жыл бұрын
Dang u guys are harsh. Went ahead and fixed it.
@chriscarson80562 жыл бұрын
As a Kona N owner, I refuse to believe what I saw. Lol!
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
GTI is put together better no doubt, much better aftermarket support as well
@hothatchpa2 жыл бұрын
My gut tells me this was not handled correctly. They need to start switching cars for the second run.
@ericr9542 жыл бұрын
Same here. Is it just me or does anyone else that owns a Kona feel this Kona was slow compared to ours lol 🤷🏻♂️
@xXPostmortemXx Жыл бұрын
@@ericr954ya they probably ran it in eco mode lol
@MeltingRubberZ282 жыл бұрын
Apparently VW paid you 10M to show this race after the MK7 R got spanked
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, it was 12 million
@MeltingRubberZ282 жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion using that dieselgate money dang
@Buck33662 жыл бұрын
Apparently they are still trying to find a train long enough to fit between the Golf R and Elantra on the dig race but as of yet no train in the world exists.
@MeltingRubberZ282 жыл бұрын
@@Buck3366 I'm a VW fan but I can appreciate a good joke when it comes along. I have an IS38 GLI and I pity the EN that wants to play on the highway.
@joshuapounds76462 жыл бұрын
MK8 Golf R will destroy the Elantra 😂😂
@flyin18t2 жыл бұрын
Solid matchup. 5.1 seconds is the best 0-60 time I've seen for both cars. The GTi owner in this video is more familiar with his car, so I think that gave him the edge during the launch. Sam doesn't know the best rpm to set the launch control to in the Kona because he hasn't driven it a lot. That's the only difference I can think of. Was fun to watch. Thank you!
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
What a load of rubbish
@flyin18t2 жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion I'm confused. You stated you have new tarmac. The rpm's in the Kona N can be set to whatever you'd like. Are you telling me that you drove the car enough to know the best launch settings based on the traction conditions? Not sure why that is rubbish. Both cars are great, but little nuances like that will tilt the scale just enough to provide the results they did.
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
@@flyin18t I have driven the Kona N around the track, I have done probably 12-15 launches, I drove in California around the track we did, many launch control tests, I have done a bunch of drags with it. The day we did these videos, we do test runs, to see how the cars run before we hit record. So please stop talking bs.
@flyin18t2 жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Thank you for clarifying. That info is very helpful to the viewer that may not be aware of it. Maybe mention this in the videos. Not sure why you're so hostile. Also not sure how I could have phrased my comment differently to not set you off. Thank you again for a solid video.
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
@@flyin18t I am sorry I came off a bit rude, but it sounded like you were questioning my abilities. Thanks for the feedback
@rindordrums2 жыл бұрын
I love watching you race, Sam! You get So excited! Just like I do when I race someone!!!
@anthonylim242810 ай бұрын
And very slow to react 😂😂
@jeffsiemens44852 жыл бұрын
They’re both good cars. Can’t go wrong with either one.
@tiutimesmedia45702 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine last week. 2k over but included ceramic coating, and 10 year 100k warranty
@certificate98 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@jimj7852 жыл бұрын
EN vs KN please and thanks Sam. With a good launch on both.
@jimwallace41642 жыл бұрын
Great races!!! Cannot wait to get onto that fresh track my guy. And thank you again for supporting my clothing brand. The hat looks great!
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim
@ernie89652 жыл бұрын
Pound by pound can't compete with German engineering
@dayalanvelan30702 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels out there. Keep up the awesome work Sam. God bless you and greetings from South Africa
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@chrisvalleqatsi2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy/lease, and these are the EXACT two cars I'm considering - perfect matchup!
@narwhalarmy66652 жыл бұрын
I have a Kona N. Its so much fun to drive. 90 degree turns at 60 miles an hour is insane. Plus having the factory pops is always fun. Chose the Kona N over the GTI cuz of fun factor and that god aweful gti interior. Hate all the Haptic buttons.
@narwhalarmy66652 жыл бұрын
But if you get a Kona N, they aren't without their issues. Mine is currently down because cylinder 1 injector went bad and it has less than 2000 miles on it. There are some issues others are having with it too, but im sure the GTI isn't without its problems
@MrTARIQSs2 жыл бұрын
The 3rd gen EA888 (and gearbox) on my mk7 GTI has been bullet proof over the last 6.5 years of continuous daily abuse, only had to change the water pump under warranty due to a coolant leak which is pretty much the only common problem with mk7 GTIs, so I imagine the 4th iteration of the engine to be quite reliable given that it’s basically the same thing but with even stronger internals, I guess coolant leaks may be the main concern judging by the previous gen (which they claimed to have fixed, but we have to wait and see).
@FinalFormation2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTARIQSs Sadly the MK8 has an issue with the radiator not being sealed properly and the shifter (for 6MT) popping off. I'm sure the next year model of the MK8 will be much more solid.
@MrPhilhal2005 Жыл бұрын
Could have made a cup of tea in the time it takes him to realise the race has started before he gets the car moving. If you are going to race cars at least do it with someone who can drive behind the wheel
@gtrrealreels73392 жыл бұрын
I have seen a kona n outrun a 7.5 r and this result is the opposite of a dozen other videos I have seen. Man, there is something wrong with that kona n because this is not normal. Those kona n's consistantly put down 270-288 whp on the dyno's. For the people saying weight, it's only 30 pounds heavier then the elentra and aerodynamics don't affect much at these speeds. Where are the cracks and pops from the exhaust while your racing? One more thing, you say power to weight favors the gti but your wrong, do the math.
@mikescallon42882 жыл бұрын
And 30 pounds difference between two cars aint making one stinkin difference. 30 pound difference is barely gonna make a difference on 2 people racing bicycles let alone two cars cracking out 280+ horsepower. Come on now.
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
dude golf R's are generally faster.. this channel featured a SLOW golf r against the elantra N and a SLOW kona N vs this GTI.. both results are off
@anthonyapplegate Жыл бұрын
probably on low octane fuel so its probably 15psi boost instead of the peak 20psi
@carloscervantes8362 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up in case I haven't posted it here. It's possible the ECU detuned the Kona depending how it was driven and when it was refueled.
@DriverJ-N2 жыл бұрын
so the elantra N gave this car bus lengths but the kona N isn't even close? I'm confused lol I know weight and aero are important but that much of a difference? in such a short race? something is off....I need to see the Elantra N vs the Kona N... i really doubt removing 50lbs and lowering the kona and replacing the tires would let it gap the gti as badly as the Elantra N did
@irockz97232 жыл бұрын
Yeah something is definitely off with this, there is no way aerodynamics and weight make this much of a huge difference. I've raced GTis on the street in my Kona and pull on the top end so idk what was up with this ?
@DriverJ-N2 жыл бұрын
@@irockz9723 yea either that Elantra was tuned or something is wrong with that Kona N 50lbs and aero doesn’t even matter much cause the gti was pulling from the start we talking about the same engine same turbo and hearing the bs that it’s a suv is why it lost is stupid… even if u watch the videos of the Kona N vs Elantra N on that Korean KZbinr channel they were pretty much even on the straight
@hitmanhart62752 жыл бұрын
@@DriverJ-N The Elantra was tuned.
@glistud81782 жыл бұрын
If anything the video of the Elentra N vs GTI makes no sense. Because this is actually the second race of the Kona N vs the GTI. And even on the other channel the GTI was pulling on the Kona N. The Elentra N races on this channel honestly make no sense. A type R on a roll beats a N. There is over 8 videos of Mk7 R vs type R and they are head to head on a roll, while the N puts 5 busses on the mk7 golf R?.
@commentmancommentman16582 жыл бұрын
I can already tell you that the kona N was not on N mode based on the exhasut sound and no pops and bangs alone
@Vanjrl3372 жыл бұрын
Nice! Wow I thought the Kona N would take the GTI. Great race! Sam proving points left and right on the channel!
@nathandavis-montgomery68842 жыл бұрын
So the Elantra N can beat a mk7 golf R but the kona N cant beat a mk8 gti 🤔
@drewthrower45092 жыл бұрын
Really? Did they do that race?
@lukemothug2 жыл бұрын
Video please!
@nathandavis-montgomery6884 Жыл бұрын
@@drewthrower4509yes on this channel
@nathandavis-montgomery6884 Жыл бұрын
@@lukemothugyes on this channel
@flyin18t2 жыл бұрын
Follow-up question... Did you time these runs? Would be interesting to know the gaps. Thank you!
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately GPS dragy doesn’t work there
@flyin18t2 жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Got it. Thank you again.
@nstylemotorsportsracing14712 жыл бұрын
Nah the first roll he just wasn’t ready and didn’t really know what to expect but the second go around he was ready in that golf! I happen to be a huge fan of Hyundai too. I’m actually thinking about trading the Type R in.
@ruthlessruth8462 жыл бұрын
MK8Golf R, golf Clubsport will both be faster than all of the Ns. It’s also kind of unfair to compare a baseline GTI to the top preformance cars of Hyundai. Clubsport and R should be compared. And no not the R that was on a platform from 10 years ago that doesn’t count either lol
@nstylemotorsportsracing14712 жыл бұрын
@@ruthlessruth846 agreed
@JohnCena-jb3yp2 жыл бұрын
Spot the gtr and bmw's in the back, a race between them is coming?
@vladdddd2 жыл бұрын
Haha love these Hyundai fanboys , when elentra N wins they trash talk VW, when GTI wins against Kona N there goes the excuses like tires, aerodynamics and etc😅😅😅. So childish
@jasoncasto9102 жыл бұрын
I mean the Kona and the Elantra N's are different so yes that's stuff makes a difference. GTI definitely wins this one no question but the Elantra walked the GTI so it does go to show that variables DO make a difference.
@TheBreakfastLover2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they are insufferable
@Duster3672 жыл бұрын
In the end it's still a junk Korean car that sounds like a tin can when you close the door.
@g_p_34312 жыл бұрын
I agree, where were these fanboys in the 90s/2000s fanboying over Hyundais? 😂
@velocitywot95732 жыл бұрын
Extremely edgy community. They wanna be taken seriously. Lol
@longgrayline8055 Жыл бұрын
Pretty slow reaction by the Kona driver. The race between these two vehicles is decided by the driver due to their being so closely matched.
@ruthlessruth8462 жыл бұрын
The issue is sam, Different cars are tuned differently for their automatic mode. So for instance, an ELENTRA N will easily make more TQ and boost on automatic mode compared to a GTI. When you use manual mode you get to use the maximum power and TQ of the car in the right gear. The issue is people mess up yes, but it's much more of a fair race that way
@grant56482 жыл бұрын
sam is not a car person. hes a boomer reviewing new cars with technologies beyond his grasp
@dobarlos13812 жыл бұрын
Love you videos ,joy to watch them
@nats50 Жыл бұрын
The Kona still has the power to weight ratio advantage. I notice the Kona driver's reaction time is no better than the Golf's driver which can spell the difference. Also, the gear ratios, including the final one, can also influence the result. A 0.32 vs 0.31 drag coefficient is not significant enough to influence at 100 mph or so.
@burnyshin2 жыл бұрын
For N, do you fill premium gas with high Octane number? N has different PS with different fuel.
@rickyb2322 жыл бұрын
Race both the Elantra and Kona N. 40lbs difference, same engine and transmission. Should be close ... not according to the last videos I've seen on your channel.
@elmosiboire90372 жыл бұрын
the elantra as more power look at the gti video
@jagerking70202 жыл бұрын
@@elmosiboire9037 it's the same exact drivetrain
@rickyb2322 жыл бұрын
@@jagerking7020 You are right, but why is the Kona N much slower?
@rickyb2322 жыл бұрын
@@elmosiboire9037 They both have the same engine and bhp???
@elmosiboire90372 жыл бұрын
@@rickyb232 not the same psi weight and torque
@jecati12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Sam u finally delivered 🙌
@oleglog69272 жыл бұрын
I guess everything is logical as for race between an SUV and Hatchback...🤷♀️
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
but they're the essentially the same space wise..
@mwilging2 жыл бұрын
I've never considered Kona N to be a SUV. It definitely favors a traditional hatchback > SUV.
@Eugen-E2 жыл бұрын
Kona N vs Accord 2.0T would be interesting.
@gionieves264610 ай бұрын
already done. KN smoked it.
@Eugen-E10 ай бұрын
@@gionieves2646 It had lightweight wheels and I think it was tuned )))
@gionieves264610 ай бұрын
@@Eugen-E not tuned. Only difference was the tires. Was probably octane learned 91-93 Octane 18 PSI instead of 15 not octane learned.
@Jcastro94442 жыл бұрын
In other words just buy the elantra N my dudes
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
Nope, the difference between the Kona and Elantra is very very little. Aside from Sams video which are questionable, go look it up
@doloresberry31442 жыл бұрын
@@vroomgc suuper questionable 😂
@Jcastro94442 жыл бұрын
@@vroomgc trippin, theres a significant difference between elantra and that suv thing kona smh
@keving52862 жыл бұрын
100% questionable, especially the EN vs golf r video, literally every video outside of sam’s speaks otherwise. Anyone wonder why?
@doloresberry31442 жыл бұрын
@@keving5286 were just haters I guess. The under-powered fwd beats the faster awd car. It only makes sense!
@jwong_n2 жыл бұрын
actually shocked... how is the elantra N so much faster against the GTI lol.
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Aerodynamics and weight
@bearpaw91502 жыл бұрын
even more so, the R
@pokest2252 жыл бұрын
Some say Elantra has slightly bigger turbo, and different tune, more aggressive. Also weight and aero play a big part.
@Corner_rascal2 жыл бұрын
@@pokest225 elantraN and konaN use the same turbocharger.When tested in Korea, the performance of the two vehicles was almost the same up to 200km/h.
@pokest2252 жыл бұрын
@@Corner_rascal manual or dct? Elantra dct seems a lot faster than manual. Watching this test elantra looks a lot faster than kona.
@JohnSmith-nz5yu2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that the Elantra N walks away from a Golf R but the Kona N struggles with a GTi.
@yanick86332 жыл бұрын
blows my mind too
@JohnSmith-nz5yu2 жыл бұрын
There is only something like 100lbs weight difference from the EN to KN with essentially the same drivetrain. The R also has a better power to weight ratio than the GTi and still got destroyed by the EN. Almost makes me wonder if they neutered the Kona N so the Elantra feels more sporty and Kona feels more family.
@davidgriggs39672 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-nz5yu Would have more to do with gear ratio's and final drive combined with the 100lbs extra weight especially if Hyundai used the same drive train specs across the range of N models.
@JohnSmith-nz5yu2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgriggs3967 Fair point. I guess I had just assumed that they would be using the exact same 8 speed with the same ratios in both these cars.
@JohnSmith-nz5yu2 жыл бұрын
After a bit of digging it looks like all the gear ratios are the same but the final drive is 2.71 for the EN vs 2.81 for the Kona.
@RcCrawlerGuy2 жыл бұрын
The N hands down.
@TheBreakfastLover2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? I won't spoil it for you.
@brolyvi12112 жыл бұрын
Nah…
@Redrumrocks2 жыл бұрын
Kona smokes it
@AcuraChannel2 жыл бұрын
Interesting race ..Sam...Let's the Ford Mach E vs Tesla model Y soon. That would be a great match up!
@dmrf875 Жыл бұрын
Launch control with handbrake on 😅
@nstylemotorsportsracing14712 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Golf R? That would be a much better match up. I also would not have said the Golf R lost 🤔 yes it did in a roll but on a dig it clearly won by a few busses 🚌!
@davidgriggs39672 жыл бұрын
How would that be a better match up , R is awd ? Ps the VW in video is a gti btw
@nstylemotorsportsracing14712 жыл бұрын
@@davidgriggs3967 I know it’s a GTI I guess I may have spoken to soon. I clearly overestimated the Kona N in this video. The Kona N seems to pretty quick but it certainly didn’t match up to the new GTI which only proves my point I highly doubt the Elantra N has a chance against the new Golf R!
@dnegel95462 жыл бұрын
@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 didnt do so bad.
@PsychicMedium47472 жыл бұрын
I love this channel….addicted lol😂
@henrikkoukku28962 жыл бұрын
(N Grin Shift), over boost). 👍🏼😉 💪🏻😎
@rolexr Жыл бұрын
I don´t know why the KONA loses nearly all those races here - On German dynos the KONA N kicks out a engine power of 305-309 hp !!! And with the DCT it should never lose a race with a Golf GTI !!!
@imranscarvideos2 жыл бұрын
Launch control in the GTI seemed much better in this video than the one vs the Elantra N. What traction mode were you using?
@flemmonsfamily5761 Жыл бұрын
Were both running 91 octane fuel? The "N" engine has octane adaptive parameters. Don't know if the GTi does are not. Kona N will run fine on 87 octane, but the ignition and fuel delivery parameters are dialed down. Makes about 240-250HP on 87 octane.
@youcangetsum68719 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it was on 87 they never check that on this channel that’s why they don’t show the psi.
@vvvvel2 жыл бұрын
Clicked twice! very intriguing Sami
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
The Kona was was very quiet, comma wasn't even in end mode because the exhaust was hardly audible? Also I am curious as to how many miles were on the Kona?
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this race was not how the cars compare so something was not right
@PapiAndrey2 жыл бұрын
Lol the excuses. Go look at actual track times and dragy/vbox numbers. The Kona doesn’t impress as much as the Elantra does. Still impressive and quick, but it’s not going to trap 105 like the Gti
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
@@PapiAndrey Nobody is making excuses as there are Kona's on KZbin trapping at a 105 miles an hour plus.
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
Sorry about my talk to txt message but I'm sure most got the point🤔😋
@vroomgc2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 All good and your point on how many miles were on that Kona is a point. I have watched many youtube races of the kona and elantra N's and they are pretty close in 0-60 and 1/4 times and thats why this race is another questionable one.
@martintintin77292 жыл бұрын
Sam, just when I thought u turned your back on the VW fan base, you gave them a HUGEEEEE win. The Elentra N fan boys are after you in the comment 😅😅
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@henrikkoukku28962 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. 👍🏼😉
@evanwinters6772 жыл бұрын
Gets gapped by a bus says “okay so one minute coopers length”
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
that wasnt a bus length you blind bat, and he was pulling, next race he won
@D.Sierra2 жыл бұрын
Id love to see an Elantra N vs Elantra N-Line
@Dragongaming-sf2wx3 ай бұрын
The octane learning in the Kona holds it back if it’s not drivin right or doesn’t get ran on 91 or better it cuts power, I’ve been running higher octane in mine and it’s helped
@nmk7.5 Жыл бұрын
MK8 GTI’s are no joke. Volkswagen continues to improve and impress with their engineering. What originally seemed to not be a huge improvement over the Mk7 on paper, the MK8 is much more powerful and shows it’s potential through the tunes that’ve come out for it that add way more power than the MK7 is capable of with just software. The Kona N seems like a well put together, fast mini-suv that’s hard not to like.
@i.d.6492 Жыл бұрын
The car is trash what you smoking. I'm in veloster N and I'll smoke any of yall stock for stock of course
@i.d.6492 Жыл бұрын
@@nmk7.5 🫡
@nmk7.5 Жыл бұрын
@@i.d.6492 your only comments are hate comments against cars going up against Hyundais in races lol. you sound like a child. way to bring an incredibly low IQ comment to a well thought out and fair one. people like you are keeping the Hyundai community garbage, good job 🤝
@benitezjoe183 Жыл бұрын
Nothing a throttle pedal sensitivity can't fix.
@shyto8302 Жыл бұрын
Dude driving the Kona has the slowest reaction I’ve ever seen lol dude can’t film and race he’s not like that dude from car wow
@sobangiwamasilela34722 жыл бұрын
Key word: aerodynamics 🤷🏾♂️
@lukedanielgalon1596 Жыл бұрын
Honestly not bad showing for the Kona N thought would be way back than this
@klasseact66632 жыл бұрын
Sam...get yourself a LG cup of coffee from Tim Horton's before all races🙏🛎💡
@dylancarpenter3341 Жыл бұрын
They didnt show the dash on the kona n. I have one and that car is way rowdier than they were showing. He didnt have it in n mode. Which changes the dash.
@loyal4ever6872 жыл бұрын
Gute Arbeit Volkswagen, best wishes from Germany
@OzStick2 жыл бұрын
Surely a better comparison would be the Kona N against a VW Tiguan R, rather than a Golf?
@kasperkyd2 ай бұрын
By the way I have the Kona and what happened here is because the heavy wheels Hyundai put on it, I did put after market wheels for winter and I was shocked when I saw change in car performance with it and for sure will beat the GTI with it
@shari_84102 жыл бұрын
lol just wrong Driving on Kona N here ... i own a Kona N myself and i blowed away already some GTI's ...
@GingkoMister2 жыл бұрын
I have another excuse for the Kona N, the tires 😂 P zero vs the ps4s on the Elantra N.
@ronnymb672 жыл бұрын
Legit... I had P Zero All-Seasons on my car. Swapped them for the PS4S in the first month.
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
I run P Zeros on my DDHC and I can do 0-60 in 3.4 on them. I wouldn’t exactly consider P Zeros to be a weak point.
@ronnymb672 жыл бұрын
@@S8ER Sorry I should have been clear. P Zero All-Seasons which the Kona also comes on.
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
@@ronnymb67 yeah that’s what I’m on. Are people really having issues on these? Other than wearing down super fast they have been great. Edit: mine are Scorpion Zeros. It’s possible these are a different variation that isn’t as good?
@ronnymb672 жыл бұрын
@@S8ER Definitely different. The Scorpion is an suv tire so I'm probably safe in assuming that you're driving some type of hot rod SUV at 3.4 seconds.
@sharktin2402 жыл бұрын
The golf R will do this to the Elentra N
@nascarnord22782 жыл бұрын
Well that's what I said on that last video but when the Golf R destroyed the Elantra N with the Owner driving the Golf R but the Hyundai mob tried to tell me I'm wrong even though I have a stock Golf R waiting for anyone with a Hyundai N to show me that I'll lose to them from a dig 😉 😀 😜
@davidbarlow3722 жыл бұрын
@@nascarnord2278 lol what happened in the first race....you seem to have left that out......no Excuses now
@nascarnord22782 жыл бұрын
@@davidbarlow372 That's easy the reason is simply because Sam is not a good drag racer and for those cars to have such close horsepower do you really believe that with the Hyundai Elantra N spinning and the Golf R having that launch he was going to get caught. 😀 yeah right some was was obviously sand bagging look at the RPM in the Golf R barely get to redline from Second to third 🙄 or third to fourth. Like I said let the owners do three digs the Golf R will take all three with ease.
@Duster3672 жыл бұрын
@@nascarnord2278 Thats what the R is about. I have an S3 I will welcome any N as well.
@gunzorkgaming78472 жыл бұрын
The race EN vs Golf R actually the Elantra N won. Just check the video.
@nighthawk00772 жыл бұрын
Actually in automatic mode you have no clue whats happening and very little control in a rolling race situation. Simply select 2'nd gear for both cars and race from 50km/h. Not sure what could be easier than that.
@NormandyFoye2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like either brand, but you’ve got to let more experienced owners drive these cars to get their true potential. I know I know it’s all just for fun, but some of these viewers are taking this way to seriously
@simphiwendlovu72 жыл бұрын
Gti jumped the start or you were slow…. It’s not because it’s heavy…. 4:20 & 5:30
@simphiwendlovu72 жыл бұрын
The man was sleeping 😴
@jonathanabraham1225 Жыл бұрын
Sam needs a lesson in properly using the launch control ☠️
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
You need a lesson on drag racing. Did you just expect the Kona N to win? That shows your ignorance about cars and racing. Cheers
@jonathanabraham1225 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion currently own a KN and had an MK6 GTI (not implying it’s = to this new generation) but fairly familiar with both. The response off the line and lack of throttle was very apparent. Still appreciate this video and your channel! 🫡
@ghaithghost56082 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for that ecoboost mustang vs Elantra n race
@alexlittig7927 Жыл бұрын
this is odd. in the race with the mk8 gti vs the Elentra N the Elentra N destroyed the gti. but the gti was not shifting well after the launch, it bogged down every race. in this race when the GTI launched it did not bog at all. so something changed in the gti between that race and this one. i say that because i cant believe the GTI won this but got multi bus gapped with he elentra n
@en_noah4615 Жыл бұрын
reaction time is a full second " this is heavier that's why" absolute nonce driving the kona.
@jackdaniels29057 ай бұрын
Sam's replays conveniently miss the actual start.
@nickloong2 жыл бұрын
No..No...No...Monicaaaaaa.....😂😅
@thespegs Жыл бұрын
Does this guy know how bad his reaction time is?
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Only an idiot would think the N had a chance, but then again, we need idiots
@youcangetsum68719 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionlook in the mirror and you’ll see the idiot guy you’re to old for this give it up and hire somebody who actually knows what they’re doing, and has the slightest clue about the car they’re racing🤣🤣
@glenoncars2 жыл бұрын
Please do a race of 128ti Australian spec against the golf GTI, or 129ti vs mk7r ,
@OmarMunoz2 жыл бұрын
technically a kona N 2022 is $35 - 36k, and GTI 2022 is $29-30k. I think they should of compared the GTI SE $35k
@DSeN72 жыл бұрын
GTI got a small head start on both dig races. I’d like to see an even dig race.
@mcwendel80662 жыл бұрын
Technically the Kona has .08hp/lb where the GTI has .07hp/lb. Sooo typical Germans lying about their horsepower 🤣
@cartesan2 жыл бұрын
Just like the koreans with the elantra🤭🤭
@mcwendel80662 жыл бұрын
@@cartesan definitely! That thing moves!
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
That Kona looks too much like a CRV for me. It’s not really a car and not really an SUV. What is it?
@Maljey2 жыл бұрын
It's really just a slightly taller hot hatch.
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
@@Maljey thanks for that, is this a new thing? I don’t normally see things like this in normal traffic where I am. 🤔 It has like a matchbox car look to it.
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
Sam do you know if the N mode has an overboost option on it? I read something about an over boost mode on at least one of the N line cars.
@SamCarLegion2 жыл бұрын
It has an N grin button
@S8ER2 жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion KZbin ate my comment, I confirmed the Kona has the 20 second overboost and it looks to shave a good amount of 0-60 times. Would be cool to see some testing on that
@BenTroxell2 жыл бұрын
Why ruin the results in the intro?
@phillyspitta81472 жыл бұрын
That GTI is lighter n hp understated I knew before I watched the V dub had this
@nicholasselvaggi54 Жыл бұрын
Driver mod needed. Put Matt from #CarWow in the Kona, it changed everything.
@kevinthomas2622 Жыл бұрын
I was going to buy an Audi Q2 next year...but I'm going for the Kona N