2022 VW Golf R MK8 vs 2022 Hyundai Elantra N, redemption time. Drag and Roll Race.

[@SamCarLegion]

Mistyped: Golf R is AWD not FWD

[@F0000-g2d]

Thats a big mistake u need to put in Video.... For the sake of all the wheel spins

[@Moonlight-hq3gi]

👍

[@newyorkcity76]

U get no knowledge about cars

[@frechesSchnitzel]

the conscious viewer got that 4WD, cause u said it... though the elantra N is my favorite, the GTI MK8 interior without haptic,- allways touchpanels is ridiculous climatecontrol/radio... btw: enginecover?!? greets from germany

[@S5K2L2]

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[@Momospeare]

This was a fun race, thanks Sam for the invite!

[@n2productions]

Super proud of you bro! Glad it ain't just me having issues with LC in the races lol

[@Momospeare]

@@n2productions thank you! so hard to get grip when it’s pushing that much HP on a dig lol

[@glistud8178]

You did good bro that new launch system on the R launches as well as a damn Porsche it seems. Nothing you could do

[@Momospeare]

@@glistud8178 thank you :) the R is amazing no doubt.

[@kizo172]

That Elantra N for the price and newness of Hyundai in the game is MAGIC!

[@ChristianRunsNY]

Not to mention it can out track the R, this is just a straight line which isn't the Elantra N's shining trait

[@yeetus59]

@@ChristianRunsNY not in the rain!

[@ChristianRunsNY]

@@yeetus59 probably not, but honestly it depends who’s driving if you are talking on track wet weather. F1 looks pretty good with 2wd lol

[@jacobvanderhooft2188]

@@ChristianRunsNY Doesn’t look like the Elentra’s ‘ring time has released yet

[@ChristianRunsNY]

@@jacobvanderhooft2188 Lots of track runs out there bone stock from the dealership and the N is incredible for the price.

[@rindordrums]

Thank you for putting up both specs at the same time. Also, the red background makes it easier to see the words. Both a good change. Thanks for great content, Sam!

[@slasheerr946]

I've heard that better engine mounts fix the wheel hop during launch which tremendously helps Elantra N!

[@Momospeare]

looking into getting some after i raced here lol

[@whosdondada]

True

[@n2productions]

@@Momospeare same lol. These launches really feel like the car's gonna break

[@elvisrueda9513]

It’s a Hyundai what do you expect

[@arthurmroyce]

I put stiffer bushings on the rear motor mount of my Veloster N and it made a significant difference in clutch engagement and wheel hop.

[@Hiddentrax]

You had to get a car in a whole other price range to beat the N 😂😂😂

[@Ahmed___9]

Only from a dig tho coz AWD

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

Awd and lighter wight I think? Plus more hp lol. But man both cars look great, I prefer the Elantra because I like Sedan cars more than hatchback

[@eltonfernandes6315]

How's that a different price range.. difference between the two cars in Canada is about $6k.. which would be AWD system in cost.

[@akshaypatel6955]

@@eltonfernandes6315 how is there not a price difference? The video literally shows the almost 12k price difference

[@madrx2]

Just buy a 2017 audi s3 sedan and obliterate them all and cheaper

[@jimwallace4164]

Such a fun day yesterday, you're spoiling us with these quick uploads! Thank you as always for being a huge supporter of me, the brand shout out was dynamite. It was my pleasure to help the the on site production and keeping everyone entertained! Cool cars out there racing on a beautiful July day, icing on the cake!

[@Momospeare]

best flag man 100%

[@jimwallace4164]

@@Momospeare I'll take that W! Kinda hard to screw it up though :P

[@EricBuenoo]

I think the real winner is the the Elantra in value. Great price point for its performance.

[@EricBuenoo]

@Bry Zeer Pretty narro minded statement. At $32k, there’s a broad range of cars available for people to purchase. Even the GTI is around that price range. Nothing wrong with a Hyundai if that’s what someone wants.

[@EricBuenoo]

@Bry Zeer lol, come on man. My argument is that people do buy Hyundai because they like it. Nobody has a gun to their head. If nobody bought them the company would go under. you’re also comparing different things. Want resale value? Buy a Toyota, want something fast? Shit, get a Lambo. Different stroke for different folks. I understand what you’re saying, but there is a lot of value In the new N-Line. Just because you don’t like Hyundai, doesn’t mean nobody else does. Also, you can’t compare the Z. Way different class, price range, even the consumer target is different.

[@Ark_Medic]

@@EricBuenoo yeah the N is a great value at the price point. Brand Kardashians may not respect it but that doesn’t mean it’s not a great buy. And some people could care less about what people think or their “street cred” they just wanna have fun driving their car, and the N is a blast.

[@EricBuenoo]

@@Ark_Medic Exactly. I could care less what my neighbor drives, not sure why I need to care about what others think I drive.

[@Freddy_Confetti]

Vw is made way better

[@amitprulovify]

You should do the roll races locked in second or third gear manual mode

[@lilypark8735]

Sam, thank you so much for putting both car specs in one screen. Just like good ole days. Now I don't have to go back and forth anymore. ^^ Still miss transformer sound.

[@Vanjrl337]

Great race. I knew the r would win, but that Elantra never fails to impress me.

[@marshall435]

And that is only the 315 hp US version not the same here in Europe the first models that came out developed 343 hp factory claimed 320 hp then recent ones developed 330-335

[@Vanjrl337]

@@marshall435 you guys get all the cool VW’s. We get the leftover stuff and have to tune them 😂

[@marshall435]

@@Vanjrl337 I have a GTI TCR 290 hp which isn't available in America just for exemple here the facelift golf R has 310 hp and yet this GTI TCR which is a limited edition with 290hp is way quicker after 75mph 80mph it out runs a golf R easily although there is 20hp difference on paper I have yet to test it against a TYPE R I have won against an S3 a golf R and a Hyundai I30N , the only car that beat me was a Seat Leon Cupra 300 also FWD if you know it

[@Vanjrl337]

@@marshall435 yeah it makes sense as you don’t have the weight of the awd. The same is true for tuned gti’s in the states. GTI’s are lil roll race monsters, because of the great midrange torque and weight. The biggest issues with the GTI is the power is limited by traction, so the R’s usually take them from a dig. I’d love to see VW build a rwd GTI, then I could sup it up and put drag radials on the back 😂

[@dnegel9546]

I dkn why hyundai didnt just put the engine from the sonata/optima in the elantra. Would of been cheaper and probably better.

[@faze_king1195]

The guy in the elantra was hella funny 😂

[@ritheshvvp1863]

I really love the way Mo, racing his Elantra N. "Go N-power Go...!"😂👍

[@Momospeare]

Thank you :)

[@acura4utoo]

Big shout out to Ben for bringing the R! Thanks for arranging the race Sam!

[@Frank-hg9rl]

As expected, AWD makes a big differece. The other guy with the Elantra N, we saw him a couple of times, he seems to lunch better than this Elantra owner. I'm i wrong? Anyway, as always Sam, good job...

[@nighthawk0077]

He pulled a few James May's

[@MsBoris66]

yes you right the other guy was on point with the lunch

[@mikeyl114]

What did the other guy bring for lunch

[@Frank-hg9rl]

@@mikeyl114 I meant launched....🤭Excuse me, english is not my first language..

[@flyin18t]

Another solid video. Thank you Sam. I like what you're doing with rotating drivers. It brings an average to the results, which eliminates any nuances with one time results. Maybe explore that angle a little bit more? Two different drivers for each dig race, (for each car) and two different for each roll race? Fun to watch. Thank you!

[@Highlander1432]

Put a dragy in each car too Reaction time plays HUGE role in who crosses line first

[@IntegraTypeSPerformance]

Golf R is a very quick platform when modded!

[@vroomgc]

I know. I had a tuned Golf R before and now have a Kona N and its not even close to how fast the R was but I like the N for how it drives and handles

[@jorge9570]

@@vroomgc what is the difference in the handling, vw makes one of the best handling cars on the market

[@vroomgc]

@@jorge9570 The difference is that the N is a tighter handling car and doesnt understeer as an R can do. Most people mod their R's to help with handling

[@jorge9570]

@@vroomgc good to know…

[@nascarnord2278]

Great video and not (just) because the Golf R won 😀 😎. Forget the savings the Golf R is a better all around car. The Elantra N s Is a good new car though.

[@1gsrtom]

Damn that N is underrated for sure, was a good roll race

[@Freddy_Confetti]

It’ll break down

[@UDamnFine]

@@Freddy_Confettithat’s why people do do basic maintenance

[@ulysses4989]

@@Freddy_Confetti And the golf won't? 💀

[@mattjingles5758]

​@Nick_Gurrrr yeah vw's do that 😂

[@Suckmyring]

@@Freddy_Confettithats no sweat brother. Not with the 100k factory warranty 😂😂😂

[@trackntrail2869]

So impressive that the EN kept up in the roll races!

[@ShammyGaming-1998]

how lol

[@mharro88]

@@ShammyGaming-1998 it beat it?

[@ShammyGaming-1998]

@@mharro88 nah just how stupid the GTI driver racing with AC on cutting all that boost lol.

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@ShammyGaming-1998 well obviously the car automatically does that for you it’s a 2023.

[@reyfuentes4572]

Actually it's the opposite the car WILL shut off the A/C when it detects 90+% throttle for full engine acceleration

[@ranran2218]

The cost difference is bigger than the performance difference by far. I'd save 12k and get the elantra n. There are several other cars for the price of the golf r that have better refinement and or performance that really make the golf r overpriced for what it offers.

[@thefastforte2854]

Right because for that price of golf r you can get a Stinger GT and spank the R

[@Jakalwarrior]

I tried to get the Elantra but the dealerships all wanted to tack on around $3500 markup, definitely lessens their appeal. This market sucks. Ended up with a GTI. Good car too, more luxury, little slower.

[@jpizel1070]

@@Jakalwarrior I have heard horror stories on those VW engines though. Make sure to stay on top of the maintenance.

[@Frank-hg9rl]

Honestly, the Golf R should win on the drag for obvious reason, the AWD, , unless the N have a perfect launch.,On a roll meanwhile, it should be interesting.🤙

[@afrikengunner]

That becomes redundant in hot weather with good tyres

[@aono335]

@@afrikengunner AWD is still a significant advantage

[@afrikengunner]

@@aono335 we will see when the type R comes out... it is more than AWD... u factor in weight... if a light FWD keeps up the first 50meters then physics takes over after that... AWD is good when done right and in all weather not when it is 25+degrees Celsius... this is why only Subaru and ford have mastered the AWD systems

[@PapiAndrey]

@@afrikengunner ford? Since when did Ford master the awd system? Audi has the real Quattro system, fwd based haldex with and without lsd, rwd based haldex with lsd. Audi has the best and they’re known for it for a reason. Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Mercedes and more have their truck lineup with 4x4 with and without locking diffs. Ford cars don’t have impressive awd systems.

[@afrikengunner]

@@PapiAndrey the last Goxus RS had the second best AWD to Subaru... that is when they mastered it... Quatro has different versions... u only get the proper quarto is the RS cars...

[@Sie84yv]

Finally, a Golf that can compete with an Elantra N! (even though they're not in the same price category as the R costs 33% more) Yet, after the dig where AWD is an obvious advantage, the EN keeps up just fine, even wins the slower roll race, for $12k less!

[@brolyvi1211]

You pay $12k for the R for refinement n less roadnoise

[@mqbr22]

It didn’t keep up. It lost. It would have lost the first roll as well if they had both cars in the right gear. The R was catching up nicely in the first one

[@someguyprobably]

Ah yes you still compare the manual base pack EN to the fully loaded DSG R I see. In that case the N will get clapped even more! Turns out when you pay 8k more you get awd, a faster/quicker, and more refined car.

[@someguyprobably]

Should really learn to do math bud! 51-43=12 now according to Hyundai fans.

[@Fauxbra]

@@someguyprobably In the USA $45,985-$34,735=$11,250.

[@kenyaswallow5782]

If I was young, I would get EN, but R would be the choice for me in 40's...

[@originalalienone]

I'm about to be 42 in a week, and I just switched from a MK7 GTI (manual) to an EN (manual). It's just too much fun. I liked the GTI, but it was just too "tame" of a drive for me. Plus, I REALLY don't like the new "haptic feedback" entertainment system in the new VWs...that's a deal-breaker for me.

[@jpizel1070]

I would get this if I was in the market and I'm over 40. For now my IS350 will do.

[@Buck3366]

I don’t think there are many cars out there that wouldn’t look out of place outside a nice restaurant,yet be spoken highly of by regular car loving guy ,leave most things standing at the lights,have 4 wheel drive for bad weather safety and yet at the touch of a button drift around a circuit sideways behind an s13 and still be relatively cheap to run and maintain,sit 5 comfortably and be pretty great interior fit and finish. I think that is WELL worth $13,000 more dollars. The N is a one trick pony. The R is the stable.

[@ricardosabillon995]

Sam, Golf R vs Kia stinger 3.3 please. Thank you !!!

[@_Ambition124]

The race I've been waiting for Damn that Hyundai is impressive gotta give respect where it's due and I'm not even a Hyundai fan lol might become one after seeing this though haha What modes were both cars in during the roll races because it will make a difference ofcourse whether in comfort or sport etc. ? I think the Golf R in Manual mode during the rolls would do much better because it would been in full boost rather than Just having it in auto. I've seen when it's capable of but I don't think it's true potential was shown here. Hats off to the N nonetheless!

[@Freddy_Confetti]

It’ll break down lol

[@galaxiejino158]

The seconde roll at 62 the golf go a little before the elentra n not on the same time and no second roll at 62 but Good race and respect for the elantra n just wawoooooo for a front traction this car is beast. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@jcgriffin4572]

Golf R is going for 60k at least,if you can find one. 20k real world price difference.

[@dub88acc]

Great race....as for not using gps based trackers you can do it old school way and have 2 people with a timer once they cross finish. Its how they used to do it back in the day. Take avg of 3 runs and it gives you a fairly rough estimate.

[@robsnow2099]

Thanks for adding the side by side spec sheet! Great video as always!

[@jimj785]

Thank you Sam for showing more EN Videos. Like the New Beard too man lol 😆 😎

[@SamCarLegion]

Thank you

[@pinchvalve4547]

Not too surprised at the results, a great illustration of what all wheel drive brings to a performance car. That new golf bar is amazing.

[@odinikita4821]

Only brings traction off the line

[@jpizel1070]

@@odinikita4821 Plus great traction in bad weather.

[@PapiAndrey]

Awd is worse from a roll even if it can go into 2wd. It’s extra weight and there is still more drivetrain loss. It’s only good for a dig, handling, and bad weather of course.

[@Soul_Flow_]

That Golf R is $45K and Elantra N is $32K. Golf R should win, but I rather buy Hyundai Elantra N because it is more fun to drive, better exhaust sound, and I hate the Golf hatchback design.

[@MauriceBln1]

Elantra more fun to drive? Good joke ;)

[@adamb8552]

@@MauriceBln1 I’ve driven both, Elantra made me smile much more. Although they’re good cars Golfs are pretty boring IMO, aesthetically too.

[@MauriceBln1]

@@adamb8552 LOOOL

[@starmember132]

@@adamb8552youve driven both, now you cant tell me you felt better driving a hyundai vs a german pioneer? The Golf R has the unique soundaktor, even if you dont like the hatchback design, the engine sounds way better, nice handling and zippier

[@adamb8552]

@@starmember132 Hyundai is MUCH more fun, objectively has better handling (it’s faster around a track) and IMO (and a lot of other people’s) sounds much better too. Just because it’s German doesn’t make it better lol, VW isn’t all that. The Golf goes fast in the straight line but has little personality.

[@SCridge88]

Has no one noticed that Hyundai got better when they got German engineers in the company….?

[@pokest225]

Everyone noticed that. Pretty obvious. And they have a development center by the Nürburgring. They hired ex bmw and audi engineers.

[@angelresa2866]

I knew the Golf R would be a bit better but 12k + difference?! No, I’d get the Elantra N for the price and performance.

[@Duster367]

The quality is not even close. The paint is so thin on the EN that if you wash it too much the paint might come off. lol I'd pay 12k more for quality. VW's last, while the EN will be in the junk yard in 10 years.

[@DjNikGnashers]

AWD car with 315bhp beats FWD car with 276bhp in a drag race SHOCKER. No shit Sherlock.

[@alirezarashidian5292]

Great race same! I knew the R was a force to rekon with. My friend owns one. The roll racing needs Manual mode for the R as it does not use full boost on automatic due to VW reliabilty. Hopefully we get to see more MK88 R races

[@pokest225]

Can you elaborate a bit more about that boost issue please? Sounds odd that vw limits boost in the sportiest mode.

[@juniormeyer27]

He’s saying it needs to be in manual mode to achieve full boost. They also limit boost in modes for strictly gas mileage purposes.

[@jacobvanderhooft2188]

@@pokest225 you can use manual on special mode as well as auto

[@Lukas_101]

“ Is this what it feels like to be James May?” 😂😂

[@pokest225]

As expected. Bloodbath in the dig races, and in the right gear, the edge on a roll too. Nevertheless, for the price and performance, the Elantra is the bargain of the century. It's a shame it's not available in Europe. It would sell like hotcakes.

[@whosdondada]

I30N?

[@randomautonomousdronepilot3384]

It wouldn't because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai still makes ugly little cars.

[@martingabriel2392]

Awd 315 hp $$$

[@pokest225]

@@whosdondada Yes, the i30N is available in Europe. Basically same powertrain. But it's a different class, typical hot hatch.

[@pokest225]

@@randomautonomousdronepilot3384 I 30N is not exactly a beauty. And hyundai sells a lot of them.

[@PsychicMedium4747]

I love Sam’s accent . He is so cool. I am addicted to your channel

[@jamesdodd9066]

With AWD, 30 more h.p., 20 ft/lb's of torque, and a sticker price $11,000 higher, why am I not surprised the VW won?

[@Ahmed___9]

Just Dig tho coz AWD, on a roll they're identical like pretty much the same

[@Conekiller29]

@@Ahmed___9 imagine the golf R tuned from a dig lol.

[@ad_2211]

I did a roll race with an Elantra N in my RS3, gotta say it was no slouch.

[@michaelgomez0807]

Very nice Sam, finally those vw can smile now. 😃

[@redapples8352]

As vw owner n is good as r in drag n is much better to keep the car for long time cheap price to fix vw cost a lot

[@wasimkhetab1731]

Golf R the legend💥

[@jp23x]

The golf r and the type r cost about the same and the result will be the exact same as this. Put that in perspective

[@mrod6415]

Keep in mind that the Elantra N is racing with the equivalent of a ECU tune using the R button. It won’t be benefiting too much from an ECU flash. The golf R isn’t using overboost and can do its thing all day long and will be in beast mode with an ECU flash.

[@davidcohen2762]

Im pretty sure an extra 10hp from 1 extra psi of boost is not a big deal.

[@jesterarts8082]

The R button the equivalent of an ECU tune? What are you talking about?

[@nighthawk0077]

@@davidcohen2762 Yeah I'd sure hate to spend hundreds on a tune only to gain 10hp. Also pretty sure you can still utilize the NGS (R?) button even after you get a proper tune for a small extra boost in the same way.

[@nighthawk0077]

Who told you 10hp gain is equivalent to an ecu tune? Most modern 2.0L Turbo engines are easily getting 50-80hp from only a stage one tune.

[@TheBb6prelude]

@@davidcohen2762 exactly. A reflash is a huge deal on the N. 10 HP is doing almost nothing for the car

[@TFSIChristmas]

VW Golf R to my eyes even in miracle dreams of America. I don’t give a fuss to their history of Diesel scandal. Idc as long VW is what I prefer over Hyundai engine fire or rattle plastics in Hyundai.

[@turbojim5055]

Great content! I'll say this...at $12,000 more for the Golf R it should be faster. I'd like to see them on a road course...again the Golf R should win simple because of how much more money it it costs. Keep up the great videos!

[@kingGfour]

Check again lol 20k more mk8r is going for 60k right now

[@neekjp]

the R doesnt cost more for outright performance it costs more because it is basically a luxury car. it is not a track based car like the elantra N it is a balanced daily driver meant for taking off at a stop light and back road fun. the Elantra N actually should beat it on a track considering that is the whole purpose of the EN.

[@OzInfidel]

Maybe also the fact that if the N is being made in Germany, it would probably have similar pricing as the R.

[@turbojim5055]

@@kingGfour I didn't realize the mark up was so large. Thanks for the info!

[@turbojim5055]

@@OzInfidel Does it cost that much more to make a car in Germany?

[@vincentr8775]

Yeah. Price diff and awd. Want to see track lap times between expansive R vs N.

[@kevinvest7513]

It’s like every Kia Stinger owner thinking they have something. 🤪

[@otpyrc]

Props to VW with that R, seems to me the N had issues on the digs but love the excitement it game me on the rolls cause it was either car's win, considering the couple of disadvantages the N did impressively, as always ty Sam and your crew.

[@XzyStorm]

Thank you for the follow up from the GTI vs EN video.

[@giuseppepicone2989]

Great video compliments. An unequal race, a four-wheel drive with 40 hp more, against a two-wheel drive, which made a good impression. Since there is the golf MK8 clubsport two-wheel drive, why didn't you choose that version? Just to give Hyundai some opportunities ..

[@TeeWadeG]

I know here in the states, sport is n/a.

[@kbdadriftking]

The EN dsg puts down 280 at the wheels. That makes them even

[@TeeWadeG]

@@kbdadriftking nah. It doesn’t. MK7 and MK8 I know are both underrated from the crank as well.

[@kbdadriftking]

@@TeeWadeG if you go look at the Dyno videos they all do. No matter the deciding factor is the aftermarket. Let's hope it's good for the EN, cause it's not...it won't matter.

[@vladdddd]

Let the excuses begin, suck it Hyundai lovers 😅

[@Jameshhl]

The Elantra is sneaky fast! it's exhaust sound better than the Golf too, but because of personal preference I will get the Golf because I just don't like the look of sedans period no matter what brand.

[@8SpeedNate]

Hoping for the N but i think the R takes it

[@LiveWire-it8zr]

Being an airport. They have gps and frequency jammers so that certain electronics don't interfere with the airport systems. A simple stopwatch time and top speed that I'm sure each car can report would be something.

[@calvindison7612]

Should have brought a Clubsport to make it fair as it will be FWD

[@turdzilla1675]

Not in North America

[@Holmesson]

Clubsports don't exist this side of the pond.

[@calvindison7612]

That's a pity cause this aint a fair comparison..

[@dknight25]

If they did track times the Clubsport is even faster than both. lol

[@joshuapounds7646]

@@Holmessonwhen you come to Germany here you will see it lol would still destroy that N both Dig and Roll race almost the same performance of a Golf R just FWD

[@1stpush]

Crazy that the golf is in a much higher price bracket and rolling the Elantra is just as quick. We all know the Elantra/i30n is not built for speed but more Corning. Great test would be a track battle, my money’s on the Elantra.

[@blarghman332]

The N is NUTS for its price point. I’m excited to see what it can do if they put the 2.5T in there.

[@josuecastro3945]

I think it just need AWD and and it would be a German killer

[@Carguylogan]

​@josuecastro3945 Not likely. The Germans are very good at making engines. Hyundai and Kia historically are not. The EN can't take 500+ wheel like the MQB platform can.

[@MWAclanGaming]

​@@josuecastro3945 Germany killer 😂.

[@MWAclanGaming]

The 2.5T is coming in the future, the head guy in the N division did say he promised to make a 2.5T N before he leaves.

[@Boosted00]

Roll race shows the true power of a car and it showed in the 1st roll race video(2nd roll video Sam jumped) . The 2 races from a dig wasnt fair cause the Elantra driver didnt know how to launch the car or he let off once the wheel hop started happening, and you can see thats when the R starts to pull away .

[@ronaldoleon48]

Crazy results considering one is +10k more than the other 😬

[@eppyz]

In reality though the N runs around $45k so not far off there. Most Hyundai Dealers are adding at least $5k mark up some higher...The R might too, but Hyundai's are crap so in 5 yrs that N will be worth 1/4 its price. Buy one used.

[@ronaldoleon48]

Runs around 45k? I’m talking MSRP numbers and msrp is about 32k for the N

[@mharro88]

@@eppyz Hyundai N division is different to the rest of Hyundai. Since 2018 they've held their value incredibly well. They're also nowhere near 45k . The golf r is a ridiculous ripoff

[@홍홍홍-z6u]

@@eppyz mk8 golf R around $60k

[@eppyz]

In SoCal they MSRP for about $45k dealers are asking about $5k markup, so if your paying $60k where you live? Wowza, Hyundai here where I live are selling these N's for $10k over sticker, Not worth it to me, I would take a Golf R over a Hyundai any day of the week.

[@himedia5354]

I was impress with Golf R performance so I went to a few dealerships and here in Australia the price is $74,212 base model no wiggle room for discount because they have no stock at all. Have to order it from South Africa or Poland not Germany. Same goes with Hyundai Sedan N but the price point is $55,000 also not from Korea. If I am paying that amount of cash I want it build from Germany for Golf and Korea for Sedan N not from other country.

[@sunnyvalentino]

Golf R is boss. Love love the EN though but the cureent gen R is in a different league with its power and trick AWD which makes sense given the price difference. Hottest hatch

[@biglee13m]

The R is faster with a good margine but I want the Elantra!

[@dannyl3098]

Interesting matchup. I knew the Golf R would have the advantage and win against the Elantra N. Love the Mk8 but for $10k-$12k less, the Elantra N wins on value. Great job, Sam!

[@mattsmith7379]

The Elantra is selling for almost 50k are you kidding me...Golf r is still the better choice

[@mattsmith7379]

Lol the elantra cost the same as the golf r

[@PapiAndrey]

For msrp, Hyundai has been killing it in terms of value. VW does too, but lately it’s been Hyundai/Kia have packed many feature AND given a very generous warranty, which you will need. I say this after working at Hyundai.

[@mqbr22]

Keep in mind the Golf R comes standard with a lot of options. Also the AWD and refinement alone is worth the extra money. Imagine FWD in heavy snow and ice. It sucks. Plus it’s fun knowing you can launch the piss out of it and go 0-60 mph in 4.2 or 4.3 sec consistently

[@PapiAndrey]

@@mqbr22 I’ve driven both back to back and the Gti and R are much nicer and more refined. I’ve been in every car in this class and the Mk8 feels like a luxury car in comparison. I’ve also seen it do 0-60 in 3.9 and the quarter in 12.3 @ 111.7mph stock. That’s insane

[@shredmonster76]

Appreciate you addressing the ET concerns, I'm subscribed now. Thanks for the great content!

[@VanillaWahlberg]

This just in A $44,000 USD MSRP car beats a $32,000 MSRP car.

[@roboticvenom1935]

in canada per hyundais website it's 40.5k for elantra N DCT and 47.6k for golf R

[@HudMan4U]

Comparing based on price alone is dumb. With that logic, put the Elantra N vs a new 5.0, similar price range and same result 😂

[@alexandergoldman]

Not surprised a car that costs $12k more wins as the Elantra N matches up more with the VW GTI with the Elantra N winning that battle vs the GTI. Overall, super impressed with the Elantra N - especially from that rolling start.

[@PapiAndrey]

Do you think the price has any reflection to the straight line performance? The Elantra N competes more with the Gti clubsport, not the Gti or Golf R. The EN makes almost the same power as the Golf R when both are on the same octane. The EN definitely doesn’t compete with the Gti

[@alexandergoldman]

@@PapiAndrey Good points. Yes, a lot of value with the EN

[@kkhthmuravha7473]

A heavy loaded Golf R matched with a light weight Hyundai but still wins, power to the Golf R.......!...

[@nighthawk0077]

umm i hate to break it to you Sam but GPS is absolutely CRITICAL for airplanes and at airports. I have a Dragy and it's worked flawlessly everywhere.

[@SamCarLegion]

Not with us

[@nighthawk0077]

@@SamCarLegion Fair enough. You will need to try an Accelerometer based meter in that case. Still strange you cant't get sufficient satellite lock there, I attach the Dragy outside to my trunk.

[@avis1978]

I saw the stinger in the background 😀 and After watching that I'm positive that the stinger will gap that new golf R on a roll and will give him a good fight from the dig even so its 700lbs heavier.

[@Yoomaro]

I doubt it

[@avis1978]

@@Yoomaro the stinger took the N on the roll that they had here not long ago so it should take the R too. The dig will be much closer. I still think the the R will take the roll by a 1/2 car.

[@jamessephar9458]

No way.

[@HD_Kerino]

@@jamessephar9458 yes way lol

[@mqbr22]

I raced my friends Stinger GT AWD multiple times at the drag strip and got him every time stock vs stock. However it was pretty close. The R launches much better. I beat his 60 foot every time

[@jacob7966]

People sleep on the Golf R so much. Honestly the Elantra isn’t even in the same class. You can make Golf Rs super car killers and get into the low 11s on the 1/4 by just bolt ons and tune

[@adamb8552]

There are too many VW/Golf fans if anything, not slept on at all. They’re just expensive in comparison.

[@Sie84yv]

The R against the new Z would be a great race to see as they compete in the same price category. I bet the R's AWD advantage will win from a dig, but the Z's hp advantage would win the roll races.

[@keithjay4944]

Bro you trippin’ the z will dust that golf r lol maybe the 3.0t 300 hp luxe q50 would be good match up but against red sport nah lol

[@keithjay4944]

If we talking about numbers the new Z goes 0-60 in less than 3.5 sec, while the golf r is at 4.7 sec 0-60. It’s a good match up for the q50 3.0t though I’d like to see that golf r going for q50.

[@glistud8178]

@@keithjay4944 bro stfu and do some research. The GOLF R matched the Supra at 3.9 seconds to 60. The Supra already ate the Z stop quoting MK7 timings. This is the Mk8 GOLF R and he is right their trap speed and Quartermile and 0-60 is pretty similar from dig

[@vroomgc]

@@keithjay4944 Where you getting your facts from.. the new R is 4.1. The new R would dust a q50 red sport. No issues.

[@dknight25]

Z should win from a dig quite comfortably. They're not in the same category performance-wise.

[@racer247]

Notice the first roll race was at 32MPH start. The guy in the Golf R started in 3rd gear and the car had to kick down to 2nd. The second roll race was at 62MPH and Sam started in 3rd gear. Obviously the guy in the Golf R first roll race should've started in 2nd gear just like the guy in the Elantra N did.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

I was confused by this. So you're thinking if the R was in the right gear it would have won all of the rolls as well?

[@racer247]

@MeltingRubberZ28 of course, it would've at 32mph starting in 3rd gear is a huge disadvantage. 😳

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@@racer247 yeah I mean my GLI is manual but I'm still in first until like 45 lol

[@racer247]

That's crazy for first gear. Yeah, if you go back to 10:00 Sam mentioned the transmission and gearing but the Golf R driver allowed the car to go into 3rd gear before the cones while the N driver made sure his car was already in 2nd gear before the cones.

[@ballathug8404]

In Canada the elantra is $41k and the golf r $47k so a $6k difference not $12k

[@oemj7147]

Wow! In that case Golf R no question.

[@nechavataco191]

I just bought a EN DCT for just under 34k. I pick it up next week. Right across the street the Golf R is selling for 46k.. its a really nice car, but its 12k more. The difference is 12k, at least in the states.

[@Hiddentrax]

Im in the US they're charging between 34-35k for the N in my state. 41k LOL like they are robbing you guys. I would never pay in the 40s for ANY FWD car

[@groundhabit6408]

So you have AWD and still use launch control against a FWD car ? That’s a bit unfair

[@DARKEST_VANTA]

AWD vs FWD from a dig is just silly

[@mattsmith7379]

Golf r still wins on a roll too

[@Hiddentrax]

@@mattsmith7379 Lost the first roll to a car that's 10K less lol. I could get a solid BMW for the price of that GolfR

[@TheBreakfastLover]

AWD vs FWD from a roll is also silly, since AWD adds weight and drivetrain losses with no significant benefit from AWD traction.

[@ryannitoi2993]

What do ya’ll expect its FWD v AWD and 35k vs 45k

[@Tsand4]

Should of just done all rolls would have been much more entertaining. No point of doing digs with AWD R that’s it’s specially vs FWD EN have no chance. But you saw ona roll it can beat the R which is very impressive. All rolls would have been all close races.

[@Tsand4]

@@layne4376 the Germans have very aggressive LC systems. When that is taken away it shows the real life speed. The mk8 R is still a quick car the Elantra N just punches above its weight. Also the R is a much more dynamic/fun car to drive with its new diff in the rear. It’s not a understeer fest anymore.

[@mattsmith7379]

Are you guys blind the R was pulling back fast on the 1st roll even starting off in a higher gear, and on the 2nd roll it was pulling away even harder and would continue to increase its lead.

[@Tsand4]

@@mattsmith7379 “Sam got paid to Make the stinger look fast”. 🤦🏻‍♂️😂You made that comment on the stinger accord TLX drag race. Immediately lost all credibility. And now your saying it on this video🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂😂😂. You sound butthurt.

[@Tsand4]

@@layne4376 the interior is good imo. It’s the infotainment and lack of physical buttons that is yikes.

[@alirezarashidian5292]

@@layne4376 they do not have IDENTICAL 5-60 times. what nonsense are u saying?

[@dessancoleman1355]

Wtf was Hyundai thinking when designing the Elantra? Thing is hideous especially the rear 🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@TeeWadeG]

Man I have to say Sam, this video was a extra unique and you guys could have made it much much better. I say unique because none of the cars you guys have lined up against the N has every single one of these advantages, Power AND Weight AND AWD. I think it would be impossible to line up another competitor for the N and keep the money difference the same or less. Power, Weight and AWD. With that being said, instead of seeing three digs where the advantages of the R are even more evident, I think the there should have been a couple more of the rolls at the MPH the N took. Obviously there are some clear advantages the R has. Is the gearing at the MPH a clear advantage for the N? Or could something be done differently on the R to overcome it?

[@someguyprobably]

R was in the wrong gear for the 50 roll, still a very close race.

[@nighthawk0077]

Yes made no sense he did 3 dig races with the same result in each but only 1 of the rolls. And of course he puts the tranny in full auto during the roll races which is crazy IMO

[@TeeWadeG]

@@nighthawk0077 I am sure they just got carried away

[@nighthawk0077]

@@TeeWadeG No that's actually how they do all the races. Besides if you're doing a race and feel the tranny in the wrong gear or downshifting very slowly, wouldn't you immediately redo the run and select manual shift mode?

[@soulsweeper1630]

The R is a little heavier though so it does not have a weight advantage over the N

[@ENnoobz]

Very good video 😉 Elantra N vs K5 GT please 🙏

[@clintg6016v]

Finally, a race comparing like model years. But no comparison here; “R for the W.” As expected. :)

[@clintg6016v]

I’ll reply to my own comment; I did see an Elantra N for the first time at Nashville Cars and Coffee. The interior looks great and the car appears a solid value for the money. It’s just not competing for the same buyer as an R.

[@davidpaulin]

@@clintg6016v it's not the same market .. fwd vs awd .. the elantra is closer to a type r than the golf.. it is a street legal track car. in a straight line the r and elantra are really similar from a roll. Obviously AWD changes the game from a dig especially since the elantra launches badly. Put them on a track though and story will be different. So far the elantra is a full 4 seconds faster on laguna seca

[@glistud8178]

@@davidpaulin You do realize the N competes more so with the CLUBSPORT FWD GTI that is not in USA. And the CLUBSPORT litearlly ruins it at the track timing. Look at the MK8 clubsports new track timing for NUMINBURGH

[@jpizel1070]

You get what you pay for. The R cost 12k more msrp in the US. This car is meant to compete with the Civic SI and the GTI. There's no way I'm paying nearly 50k for a VW when I can get the N in the mid 30s but to each its own.

[@jeenhur8804]

You shoud compare DCT version of Elantra N with Golf R. Compared with 6-speed 8-speed DCT EN which is cheaper by USD10,000 could win U-Drag and on tracks than Golf R.

[@SamCarLegion]

This is the dct Elantra what are you talking about???

[@skinnycol809]

i own a N, this car surprises me every day man.

[@Flim012]

I've been wondering if the NGS was used on the Elantra N during the races?

[@PapiAndrey]

It was, you can see it on the cluster

[@joshuapounds7646]

If used or not will still lose

[@damendred1]

@@joshuapounds7646 Yeah on the dig, the EN is never going to beat a comparably powered car with AWD. With the wheel hop it's a mixed bag on how good of a start you'll get, but even the best one they're going to be at least 2 car lengths behind from the start. We saw it here plain as day. The NGS can't make that up on a short run. Obviously it could have been the edge that let it beat the VW on the roll, but tough to say.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

All the salty VW fanboys from the GTI race have been replaced by salty Hyundai fanboys.

[@SamCarLegion]

😂😂😂

[@Jcastro9444]

N edges the R out on a roll which is why we are here, straight line speed

[@8SpeedNate]

Wouldnt know

[@roddur1000]

there literally like 1 hate comment lmfao

[@Asiansxsymbol]

@@SamCarLegion Since when is $44K USD = $45K CND? 🤣

[@neodidi]

I wasn't expecting anything less.. At all.. I mean, the torque, HP of the R... I mean, those should mean something right.. It's also not a fwd.. So yeah, good win.. And the Elantra performed super well for it's specs and price.. Oh it performed well.. For the most part, you would not need to race it like this.. If you want to take it to the track, then either get an R, or spend extra getting it beefed up

[@buildmorefarms1007]

13k more for the Golf R...the Hyundai is a solid performance bargain.

[@Buck3366]

The Golf is FAR more a drivers car now. The AWD system can be put into drift mode putting more power to either rear wheel making it a lot more than just a straight line killer. It’s just another thing the Hyundai can’t do.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

@@Buck3366 Maybe so but it is $13+k more money...the Hyundai is freaking amazing for the price.

[@Extra_Depresso]

if the Elantra N was AWD, it would undoubtably be my next car. Ill hold onto hope 2024 or 25 that it will come out by then.

[@aono335]

I didn't expect The Elantra N to be faster on the 50kph roll race than the MK8 Golf R eventhough the Golf R is way faster from a dig obviously due to AWD . Very interesting race and was fun to watch. On a track, I think the Elantra N could still be very close or even better than the Golf R.

[@mattsmith7379]

You are delusional

[@PapiAndrey]

The Golf R was coming back on the top end of the 50 roll. I wish they did another roll race or two for better measure. The Golf R traps higher and puts down quicker times from a roll. The Elantra N has shorter ratios than the R, that’s one reason why it does so well down low for the power it has. The R has longer ratios and that’s why it traps 110-113mph stock

[@aono335]

@@PapiAndrey Thats also true. The Golf R is making way more HP and it makes more power in the higher rev range

[@alirezarashidian5292]

@@aono335 the GOLF R started in the wrong gear on the first roll race. second one it won easily. The GOLF R also was using automatic mode where it doesnt use full power like the N does. Full power comes with manual paddle shifters on the R where they dint use because people mess up a lot. The R is just the faster car

[@PapiAndrey]

@@aono335 not sure I’d say way more power. Look what they make on the dyno. Thing is not all dynos are the same and most of the time people don’t mention what dyno they used. But the difference isn’t huge. Still, the Golf R traps higher and it’s the faster car

[@grapeeggplant3863]

The elantra owner is complaining about wheel spin, well it's a fwd what did you think was gonna happen?

[@klasseact6663]

Atleast the N won 1 race🙏 That 2nd roll race really shows that up in the power band the R is on boil, it won going away. I'm sure it wouldn't have mattered much but I would've liked to have seen the usual EN used in these videos just for consistency sakes. Tip of the cap to that R...thing is FAST and my God with a tune, look the F out🏁🏁

[@aono335]

With a tune and all sorts of modding the golf R is no longer viable. It becomes way to expensive (it already is very expensive) and at that point I'd much rather buy an M4

[@glistud8178]

One thing you need to also keep in mind is on a roll they used automatic mode which favors the N. The way the N is tuned it used more boost and power on automatic mode unlike the golf R where You make maximum power using paddle shifters but there is more room for mistake. If the Golf R used paddle shifters it would have been Gone. Matt Watson did a good example of this. He made two separate videos of golf R vs type R. In the first video the golf R used paddle shifters and gapped the type R. Later on they made another video where the golf r and type R racer but this time golf R was on automatic mode like this video and the hey were head to head instead of the Golf r winning. So they did give the N every advantage on a roll here but the golf r was clearly still the faster car. This should surprise u as the R Dynoed at 340 HP. So as the race goes longer the R would win more and more

[@victoracevedo4958]

Golf R 318hp AWD vs elantra N 276 hp fwd🤷 Elantra N #1🏁

[@gabemonterola2434]

Team vw all day 😏🤷‍♂️

[@jonttran1092]

Unlike the Elantra v wrx video why didn’t we redo the race 57 times until the Elantra got the perfect start? He said he was wheel spinning? Why didn’t we redo?

[@commentmancommentman1658]

The R slaughtered the N from the dig as expected awd launch. That R is fast, still love my EN tho

[@Foxdoabarrelrofl]

I mean it's 10 grand more car. It should. Throw 5 grand of tune into the Elantra with a motor mount for the wheel hop and it'll be on par or better....stock for stock it was never going to have a chance.

[@soulsweeper1630]

@@Foxdoabarrelrofl can’t compare tuned vs stock. 5 grand in both and you’ll get the same result as this video

[@alirezarashidian5292]

@@Foxdoabarrelrofl Please dont compare tuned as VW is the king of tuning

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