2023 BMW M3 vs 2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing. Drag and Roll Race.

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Sam CarLegion

Sam CarLegion

10 ай бұрын

2023 BMW M3 vs 2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing. Drag and Roll Race.
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@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
This is probably the comparison I wanted the most this year! Super happy it happened. For the money, I would take the CT4-V Blackwing.
@GSX455s
@GSX455s 10 ай бұрын
I went with the Blackwing in the same color and 6mt as well lol, Im not surprised. BMW is notorious for under rating the power. My 335i definitely had more than the 300hp advertised.
@user-to4kq1qy4j
@user-to4kq1qy4j 10 ай бұрын
The kedelak driver, please, should not race. Every race he takes, he loses. I think his driving is bad.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
@@user-to4kq1qy4j can you please type in English? I don’t understand anything.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
@@GSX455s small tune and you will have a monster
@regal022
@regal022 10 ай бұрын
I went for the M3 xDrive. Made the most sense to enjoy the (no speed limit) on the German autobahn. Plus is absolutely amazing on small and twisty country roads. Thanks for this comparison and congrats on being the only one with it!
@jdl92264
@jdl92264 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see you switch drivers (especially when comparing manual transmissions) to see if driver's skill affects the results.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
That’s the dumbest idea. The owner of the M3 would make the BW look better?
@jdl92264
@jdl92264 10 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegionWhy not? You think all driver's are equally skilled?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
@@jdl92264 this race went exactly how it was supposed to. Times online are equally.
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
It's not a dumb idea. Some of the people you have on here are absolutely terrible drivers yourself included lol. There is plenty of driver error each video.
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
@@pakaloolakp they are all bad drivers. At least it gives you a real world comparison for when you race on the street lol
@jimwallace4164
@jimwallace4164 10 ай бұрын
Flagman checking in! This shoot was fun to be a part of. 473bhp BMW M3, nah; Its well over 500 crank horsepower. Regardless, it was a fortunate stroke of luck to have a manual M3 join the festivities and make this video happen! Good racing lads. See you in the next one :D
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
You the man Jim!
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 10 ай бұрын
I wish Sam would give us the MPH at the 1/4 mile mark, that would give a much better idea of real HP. I can tell you my 3950 curb weight RWD Auto ~540 crank hp runs 12.2 @ 116 mph on the street. That 116 is indictive of HP, the 12.2 can be altered by many factors.
@MrJrolon1975
@MrJrolon1975 10 ай бұрын
​@@SamCarLegionWhy are you such a bad driver? You need to do better.
@nighthawk0077
@nighthawk0077 10 ай бұрын
@@MrJrolon1975 maybe the Stig would be better
@nighthawk0077
@nighthawk0077 10 ай бұрын
I thought they were 510hp
@johnnytorreto8197
@johnnytorreto8197 10 ай бұрын
I would do dirty things for a CT5 BW
@polo3433
@polo3433 10 ай бұрын
Was you utilizing the no lift shift? It seems you was losing way more ground on each shift.
@MrGierigegast
@MrGierigegast 10 ай бұрын
12:52
@DippinItUp1
@DippinItUp1 10 ай бұрын
having driven both the ct4 v blackwing is the far more engaging and fun driving experience and the caddys tremec puts the m3s manual to shame.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
RS3 is better than both nowadays imo!
@DippinItUp1
@DippinItUp1 10 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204 not at all. The Audi doesn’t have the chassis of the ct4 v bw nor the big power of the s58 in the m3. I find the RS cars to be pretty boring and mundane to drive like most other VAG cars.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
@@DippinItUp1 I agree with a lot of what you said, but RS3 is a better all arounder! Better all weather daily driver, and better sound! It's a little better bang for your buck especially when compared to the M3 imo!!
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 10 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204RS3 is not a comparison being auto only, and FWD chassis to boot.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 Just a friendly comparison! I'm a fan of all three cars, and currently own a new M240i xdrive! Definitely not biased towards Audi!
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 10 ай бұрын
The dude brings some insane races no one thinks of! I love it. This is probably the only official drag race of the CT4 BW I have seen so far. Kudos to Sam ❤
@monocuco818
@monocuco818 10 ай бұрын
Seeing those shifts actually makes the race so much more exciting!
@alexoubre7776
@alexoubre7776 10 ай бұрын
Caddy vs M340 woulda been a better pick
@jeffa.8976
@jeffa.8976 10 ай бұрын
M340 also does a 12.2
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffa.8976 because its 4wd
@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr
@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr 10 ай бұрын
​@jeffa.8976 that m3 manual has more topend then a m340i for a fact
@nunnaurbidness3209
@nunnaurbidness3209 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think you can get the M340 in a manual.
@oddomadic
@oddomadic 10 ай бұрын
@@nunnaurbidness3209 you can't
@Bernardjoon
@Bernardjoon 10 ай бұрын
You should also swap drivers to see if it makes a difference, the m3 owner probably way more used to his car than sam is to the ct4
@memememine1
@memememine1 10 ай бұрын
No the ct4v is just that disappointing. I test drive one at Laguna seca for a Cadillac event. And this is coming from an ex camaro ss 1le owner I would take every opportunity to praise gm performance. My base 3.4L 911 with 350hp and no torque accelerates basically as fast as the ct4v black wing. The ct4v black wing gets outrun in a straight line by the m340i let alone anything with an s58. The ct4v is a nearly perfect car in every other way it just has a competley disappointing engine.
@SteveBrueck
@SteveBrueck 9 ай бұрын
Our ATS-V'S have the LF4 engine like the 4 BW. $2500 in parts, e85, and a tune and you gain 200 whp. We have one making 630 whp and another making right at 700 whp. I bought both cars for the price of one BMW.
@watsonanthony8438
@watsonanthony8438 24 күн бұрын
@@SteveBrueckthere goes your warranty 😅😅😅
@SteveBrueck
@SteveBrueck 24 күн бұрын
One was out of warranty when we bought it, and the other one was quickly out of warranty almost as soon as I bought it, and it only had 11k miles.
@TDream-hs1ju
@TDream-hs1ju 10 ай бұрын
I love this match up but BMWs make a lot more power than advertised and they put it down to ground like no other!! Both cars are amazing though!!!
@henzo7087
@henzo7087 10 ай бұрын
Not a lot more 30 hp more than they say. VW/Porsche doing 50/60 hp + than advertised. No chance vs BMW engine is superior than competition
@RiasGremoryS54
@RiasGremoryS54 10 ай бұрын
@@henzo7087 A lot of VW make less power.. BMW are the king when it's come to make more HP than advertised.
@JoseManuel-cq1ot
@JoseManuel-cq1ot 10 ай бұрын
3.0 vs 3.6 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@11x
@11x 10 ай бұрын
@@JoseManuel-cq1ot You make it sound like 0.6L is a huge difference or something🤦🏼‍♂️ …nice cars but I’d rather get the CT4 and do a simple tune that wakes them right up with 500+hp and still have $20,000 in my pocket
@manuelthodos5925
@manuelthodos5925 10 ай бұрын
@@henzo7087 the new m2 says 453bhp but, when dynoed it puts down 535whp.
@regal022
@regal022 10 ай бұрын
Sam! We been waiting this video for the longest and you are the only one that have made it happened. Good choice on having the lower HP M3 instead of the competition versions. That cadi looks good and moves good. But you are the first one that put them on a head to head and letting the cars talk instead of doing a “blind review” with favoritism towards any of them.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
Here to make the impossible… possible
@chrism869
@chrism869 10 ай бұрын
the race i always wondered about, cause no one has done it, but really the beimer is just unmatched
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
bimmer 👍
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 9 ай бұрын
That's because it's underrated by 40hp. It's not that amazing. 🙄
@chrism869
@chrism869 9 ай бұрын
​@thomasferrarojr.9772 wonder if an auto would keep up a bit better, but still would lose
@losttyrant7482
@losttyrant7482 10 ай бұрын
I think the real match up is a CT5 Black wing, price wise they are much closer
@AE86FTS
@AE86FTS 10 ай бұрын
But size wise, this is the correct match up. The CT5 is the same size as the 5 series
@Tm0n3y762
@Tm0n3y762 10 ай бұрын
That’s m5 territory lol still gon lose especially to the M5 CS
@EdMiF
@EdMiF 9 ай бұрын
​@@Tm0n3y762 Not on the race track. Look at the Haverty video.
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 ай бұрын
Ct5 blackwing would still lose.
@joeysantillo8977
@joeysantillo8977 9 ай бұрын
The bw launch control does give you wheelspin but i got two 4.2 sec 0-60 runs with it on. (I only tried twice). You can see the power diference once in third gear. I bet the m3 has 40+ more whp than advertised. Lots of people ragging on Sam's skills but i think he was within a few tenths of what the bw is capable of stock in the 1/4.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
BMW makes 550 bhp. You can see online dynos. People that comment here like that have zero clue, so it doesn’t bother me.
@jurzyjohner432
@jurzyjohner432 4 ай бұрын
That BMW is just too special of a car and it has its tricks up its sleeve.
@StreetGrandTour
@StreetGrandTour 10 ай бұрын
Great videos Sam, love the Blackwing!
@joszer
@joszer 10 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised that the BMW is faster, but I am surprised that it's faster by a few car lengths. Impressive. I still love my CT4 BW though
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The m3 costs much more
@robertburr7407
@robertburr7407 6 ай бұрын
The BMW is quick but not quicker unless it is the AWD CS. The driver was pathetic as many of the comments have pointed out.
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 3 ай бұрын
​@@robertburr7407u dumb? The regular m3 comp xdrive or m4 xdrive smoke it as shown here and on car and drivers quarter mile times and 0-60s. U don't need the CS version 😂😂
@derequalizer726
@derequalizer726 Ай бұрын
I'm from Germany, or rather Bavaria, where BMW is at home. I had a BMW 7 Series and a BMW 5 Series myself. But then I had a Cadillac Eldorado and a Cadillac STS. Cadillac is also my favorite brand. So much elegance, great technology, luxury and beauty combined with sportiness is unique. And still cheaper than the competition (BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi). No other car brand can do that. It doesn't get any better than this. Cadillac!!! 😊👍🏼 Here is my only video that I made myself .... from my Cadillac at the time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ2YiZhubrKgqrssi=j9nYoX4hP325c1rj
@adrianpopescu3930
@adrianpopescu3930 9 ай бұрын
Isn’t the m3 single turbo twin scroll stock they write twin power because of the twin scroll if I am not mistaken 🤔
@steadybreeze1443
@steadybreeze1443 9 ай бұрын
I sold BMW and the longer in gear acceleration helps and the elasticity of the engine is its strong point. Apparently the CTSv4 Blackwing has a great chassis and feel..buy what you enjoy.. I still enjoy my 6 speed e90 more then the new cars I drove, different experience. Best pick is the M340 tuned. So much potential.
@d3j051
@d3j051 10 ай бұрын
I'm a BMW fan and current owner but that Blackwing is still an awesome machine, I would love to own one if I didn't need a back seat.
@nickns23659
@nickns23659 10 ай бұрын
Another great race Sam!
@chriscab8333
@chriscab8333 9 ай бұрын
On the CT4 BW the ECU has a boost cut from factory until its been operating for I think 10 or 15 minutes.
@SteveBrueck
@SteveBrueck 9 ай бұрын
No, 180 degree oil temp, same as our ATS-V'S. We have the same LF4 engine, just lots more power
@reloadingdontshoot1
@reloadingdontshoot1 10 ай бұрын
M3's are just built different. Love the Blackwing but M3's are special
@christopherpickens1478
@christopherpickens1478 10 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on what you mean by being "built different"
@jikwag3415
@jikwag3415 10 ай бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 ones German and ones American. Kidding aside, the power band on these engines even from 80s are just remarkable. Just bc they have similar HP and torque, and even weighs almost the same, this is where true engineering shines. Hell, the black wing has almost 70ft/lbs torque more and still loses
@christopherpickens1478
@christopherpickens1478 10 ай бұрын
@@jikwag3415 cause of a suck ass driver, however I do see your perspective
@jikwag3415
@jikwag3415 10 ай бұрын
@christopherpickens1478 I agree... I don't wanna dog the guy bc I like the content but yes, it was super cringing everytime he slams the gear shift.. bro they go into gear even with just a force of your pinky why are you slamming the gears so hard. I would never let this guy drive my car. He'll probably bent the shift shaft
@scottbowers7248
@scottbowers7248 10 ай бұрын
Do a road course test next, performance is a lot more than just acceleration, every test for road course the Cadillac skunks the Bimmer, that is engineering.
@ms8742
@ms8742 10 ай бұрын
I had a '23 M4 Comp X drive for 3 months before I flipped (sold) it. It was insanely fast. These current M cars (3/4 series) are very good.
@Turtle-sz7sk
@Turtle-sz7sk 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I was gonna trade my rs5 coupe in for one but had to buy a house 😠
@mikewohala6035
@mikewohala6035 10 ай бұрын
Considered doing that with mine, just did the 1200 mile service but can’t let it go. It’s a monster and a blast to drive. Not much stands a chance stock for stock. I wish the turbo s wasn’t so expensive
@brandonpittman5243
@brandonpittman5243 10 ай бұрын
@@Turtle-sz7skI don’t know if you won or lost but good decision on the home congratulations
@davidwade7681
@davidwade7681 10 ай бұрын
Imagine the m8
@mikewohala6035
@mikewohala6035 10 ай бұрын
@@davidwade7681 not for me but I respect it. My M3 is my daily, I prefer a fast daily and an exotic. Just can’t justify the price of huracans, f8’s etc. the m3 comp x is so capable it has curbed my urge for a super/hyper car. This car literally saved me money lol
@stevenconcepcion3637
@stevenconcepcion3637 9 ай бұрын
Can we do a new accord hybrid vs the 2.0t accord
@AP-go1ks
@AP-go1ks 10 ай бұрын
Best race of the year, M3 6 speed manual vs CT-4 Blackwing 6 speed manual, thanks much!
@scottw7895
@scottw7895 10 ай бұрын
BWM is NOT an Xdrive and NOT a competition spec, aka the slow spc.
@blu_is500
@blu_is500 10 ай бұрын
4.2 Seconds is nothing...absolutely nothing...to sneeze at. Whoever gets a Blackwing should be quite happy.
@rwczr9364
@rwczr9364 8 ай бұрын
Try using the launch control on the ct4 it makes a huge difference than dumping the clutch
@watsonanthony8438
@watsonanthony8438 24 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter. It ain’t beating the m3 😅😅
@cj41079
@cj41079 10 ай бұрын
We need S58 vs lightly tuned B58 plz 🙏
@canucktheory3271
@canucktheory3271 10 ай бұрын
Id rather the ct5-V blackwing for the price and it will hold its value much better and for longer with the 6spd and lt4. You pay m3 money for m5 CS performance and have the manual. I digress. Both cars are pretty awesome and for the price the ct4 is hard to beat.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 10 ай бұрын
The CT5 V Blackwing doesn't come athousand mile close to the M5 CS.
@oscarchavez9047
@oscarchavez9047 8 ай бұрын
?? If you watch the Haggerty channel review you will see that on a track the CT5 blackwing is faster than the M5 cs! M5 cs in a straight line will easily win but that not the reason the blackwing was made!
@Emilthehun
@Emilthehun 8 ай бұрын
I love the cadillac! Such a good look.
@MS-li5tp
@MS-li5tp 10 ай бұрын
Wonder how their times would compare around a track?
@offtrac_celica
@offtrac_celica 10 ай бұрын
Yeah on paper they look similar but on the dyno the BW puts down 415ish WHP and the M3/M4 puts down 500+ whp. Big difference. Also i noticed you didnt use the launch control on the BW. Not sure if the m3 has launch control.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
We tried with launch control- cars spin like crazy. Result was similar just slower launch. M3 does have it, just finicky.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 9 ай бұрын
10 psi more boost so duh
@antongusev2673
@antongusev2673 10 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what you pay extra bucks for - a better performance. Thanks for the great video!
@KDbeats19
@KDbeats19 10 ай бұрын
if Im paying that much I want about a bus length not a car & a half
@tri3pleagent
@tri3pleagent 10 ай бұрын
Is it better around the track?
@show2ime
@show2ime 10 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 GET AN M3 XDRIVE automatic and it's still lights out...
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 10 ай бұрын
@@KDbeats19 The BMW has a better performance, better handling, better driving experience, better buildquality, better interior, and most importantly a better brand recognition with a car known for motoersporting. Everyone will remember the M3, but a few will recall that CT4 V Blackwing.
@KDbeats19
@KDbeats19 10 ай бұрын
@@hassanger8128 Well there's many generations of the m3 so I wouldn't be surprised, but I get what u mean.
@rarelibra
@rarelibra 9 ай бұрын
what pinhead was driving the Caddy?
@Bigguns761
@Bigguns761 10 ай бұрын
Sam, what is the fastest 0-100 km/h, the cadillac blackwing or the m240i xdrive g42 ?
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
The 240i is AWD.....what do you think? Lol
@napraznicul
@napraznicul 10 ай бұрын
Yeap.. m3 had @510bhp OR that blackwing had @440bhp. Wasn't about shifting at all.. from third gear up.. power cloud be seen.
@flybyguy1450
@flybyguy1450 10 ай бұрын
Obviously the bmw was going to win, but the driver still jumped every roll race.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 9 ай бұрын
Crazy how much a manual transmission and RWD handicaps these cars. The AWD and automatic transmission are just so much better for performance.
@user-my4xu4gf1z
@user-my4xu4gf1z 4 ай бұрын
It's a driving experience ur obv a tesla nerd and u don't have a clue about having fun in a car that takes skill to drive.
@andreyavdeyev
@andreyavdeyev 10 ай бұрын
Need to flat foot shift so boost doesn't drop off each gear change. Might've made a small difference 🤷‍♂
@ssanderson12
@ssanderson12 10 ай бұрын
He said he was flat foot shifting...
@Starkiller12481
@Starkiller12481 9 ай бұрын
The BW no lift shift seems to not carry the boost well I bet it'll carry boost better with normal shifting
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer Ай бұрын
Would have made a big difference
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 10 ай бұрын
We all knew this outcome, but the brilliance of the CT4-V Blackwing is its chassis and manual gearbox, not its outright power. The M3 is fantastic though.
@johnnytorreto8197
@johnnytorreto8197 10 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 good excuse for you to suck off BMW eh?
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 10 ай бұрын
@@layne4376well he has to come up with some excuse, because slower on the road course too. Surprised he didn’t bring up the nose as another excuse either.
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 10 ай бұрын
@@layne4376 eh, I drive a 2022 Model S, so I would beat both of them. 😎
@S8ER
@S8ER 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleywalls7582 plaid or peasant spec?
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 10 ай бұрын
@@S8ER my six-figure “peasant spec” will run a 10.8 at 128 quarter mile.
@rolandb.3989
@rolandb.3989 10 ай бұрын
Practice shifting gents.
@sunburn8640
@sunburn8640 7 ай бұрын
Moral of the story is, get yourself th CT4 BW for 75% of the price of the M3 but get 90% of the performance…
@zylixevade2469
@zylixevade2469 10 ай бұрын
The caddy and the m330i 2023 woulda been better the m3. Como dusted it
@Abu-Khalid-
@Abu-Khalid- 10 ай бұрын
Horsepower difference clearly visible. M3 probably 500+
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer Ай бұрын
No this is a skill issue. He was losing too much speed in each shift
@ramsongewargis8736
@ramsongewargis8736 10 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for this one lol
@Tavarish21
@Tavarish21 10 ай бұрын
Does the CT4-V also come with No lift shift? 🤔
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@manthatspeakstruth5402
@manthatspeakstruth5402 10 ай бұрын
MORAL OF THE STORY IS GET YOUR SELF A M
@manuelpiston
@manuelpiston 6 ай бұрын
Ewww no wouldn't touch it with a 6ft pole.
@msblack557
@msblack557 10 ай бұрын
Cadillac ct5v or bmw m3 cs?
@zeekahlfevil
@zeekahlfevil 9 ай бұрын
Just a thought.. I know the size difference, I know they're not exactly in the same "class" but everyone who is in here talking about how the BMW is faster and has more power.... Lol at price points... Throw some sticky ties and a lil bolt on power to the caddy and the BMW is toast... Or put it up against the M2 that is actually in it's price point and watch the beemer boys cry... When a car is ~15k more expensive (depending on equipment) it's always going to out perform in some areas... But seriously let's get real, caddy guys will get the caddy, beemer boys will get the m3 good video guys really liked the content.
@Sle3p520
@Sle3p520 10 ай бұрын
Very exciting matchup! Would like to see this M3 vs a gt350.
@regal022
@regal022 10 ай бұрын
M3 on drag race will pull away, same on anything below 60mph. Anything higher they basically stay the same. On track the M3 with cup tires will have an edge but that GT350 still a beast on a track.
@OraneenarO
@OraneenarO 10 ай бұрын
I remember being told by the dealership that ct4 blackwing is impossible to get but now I'm seeing quite a few on auto trader.
@michaelschneider1365
@michaelschneider1365 10 ай бұрын
the 2024 ct4 are getting redesigned inside and it’s a 20yr anniversary i’m hoping to get a black wing or v. next summer
@damianinglish7474
@damianinglish7474 5 ай бұрын
I just bought a 2020 CT4 V with the 2.7L turbo. And i absolutly am inlove with the car. Been driving it for about 3 months. Its fully loaded and i will say ill wait a few yrs and look to the blackwing. This was a good race to see
@robp696
@robp696 10 ай бұрын
Would be great if you did rs5 vs ct4 blackwing and m3 next
@pokerfred68
@pokerfred68 10 ай бұрын
Shifting your own really slows down both. The autos are seamless and are so much more controlled.
@TrevForPresident
@TrevForPresident 10 ай бұрын
And way less fun
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
Little less fun, but still have the paddle shifting involvement, and a car that's quite a bit quicker in every way possible especially dig racing!
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 10 ай бұрын
S58 is the king 🙇‍♂️
@nick0164
@nick0164 9 ай бұрын
costs way more so id hope so
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 9 ай бұрын
@@nick0164 easily optioned at $85k for xdrive comp. You don’t have to go crazy on options.
@manuelpiston
@manuelpiston 6 ай бұрын
B58?
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 6 ай бұрын
@@manuelpiston B58 is the S58’s little brother.
@atyrrell17
@atyrrell17 8 ай бұрын
Straight line performance is one test, driving on a road course is another. With the exception of the “CS” variants of the M3, I think the CT4 Blackwing’s chassis would give it an edge over the M3. It’s the overall dynamic handling and package of the Blackwing that’s so special. It’s what BMW used to do so well, but GM beat them at it this time. The motor on the BMW M cars is spectacular though!
@southerncomfort1339
@southerncomfort1339 8 ай бұрын
As many of these things running around with wild owers! Where is the 392 Chargers?? In these drag race!
@southerncomfort1339
@southerncomfort1339 5 ай бұрын
Notice they don't invite the 392 Chargers n these drag races nor the U-Drag race!!
@rokusentertainment5787
@rokusentertainment5787 10 ай бұрын
The bmw 340 with a 2 pound boost gain would eat up this slow blackwing 😂
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
Slow? Lol. Why you talking about cars you'll never be able to afford 😂😂 🤡
@LayLoow
@LayLoow 10 ай бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtainyou don’t have to afford to talk about them
@pichubball
@pichubball 9 ай бұрын
Fact lol
@IRaoulDuke
@IRaoulDuke 10 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day Cadillac looks better than an M car.
@GM1565
@GM1565 10 ай бұрын
BMW has better interior tho
@brainwashed1542
@brainwashed1542 10 ай бұрын
For that price difference it better…
@oemj7147
@oemj7147 10 ай бұрын
I'm sill waiting for that day to come.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 10 ай бұрын
This M3 looks way better. That day would never come.
@husnainkhan5717
@husnainkhan5717 6 ай бұрын
Nice work
@reginald8405
@reginald8405 10 ай бұрын
Thank You Samuel!
@Eddy-09
@Eddy-09 10 ай бұрын
This Cadillac should race an M340i, even then I don’t think it would win.. mainly cause of the advantage from the ZF8 auto. If they were both auto that would be interesting..
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
This was the expected outcome. I'd love to see the difference in a track race instead. M3 obviously has more hp than listed but surprised how fast it really is. I'd still take the blackwing any day. Looks better and won't be in the shop constantly. Also way cheaper to maintain and more reliable.
@robertburr7407
@robertburr7407 6 ай бұрын
Blackwing is faster around a track as indicated. That is what it was meant for.
@bunzaroo
@bunzaroo 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison. As others have mentioned the M3 is underated. I had a 2021 M3 base auto, non X drive. Now I have a 22 Blackwing w carbon package. 10 speed. My honest opinion M3 Quicker acceleration Better looking interior/Materials Better looking wheels Better finish overall Blackwing A tad slower overall/ seat of the pants Rides better w/ magnetic suspension Feels more planted Fit and finish a tad on the lower side I feel it looks better overall than the Beamer, except the wheels. Thinking of doing JB4 / down pipes/intake. Should take me to 600+ at the wheels.
@awhs5435
@awhs5435 10 ай бұрын
you're high if you think a JB4 tune will pump 600 wheel HP lmao. Owned many AMGs and S line audis and a few M cars, legit delusional if you believe some cheap ass tune and some DP will pump out that much more HP.
@George0674
@George0674 10 ай бұрын
I had a f82 M4, then an ATSV (now have a 4BW). I feel like your assessment is spot on. I do think the f82 was a great looking car though. I don't know wtf BMW is thinking these days with the styling, the new 7 is an atrocity, and this coming from someone who didn't hate the Bangle era.
@bunzaroo
@bunzaroo 10 ай бұрын
@@George0674 i also had 2 ATSV’s 16’ crystal white sedan and 19’ steel gray coupe. I miss the coupe so much.
@George0674
@George0674 10 ай бұрын
@@bunzaroo yeah, mine was a 19 Coupe in Wave Metallic (blue), one of 4 with the 6mt. The BW is the first new 4 door car I've ever bought. I miss the coupe styling, but nice to easily throw things in the back seat.
@bunzaroo
@bunzaroo 10 ай бұрын
@@George0674 only 114 atsv’s were built in 19’ all coupes. Mine was 1 of 13. I really miss the styling of the coupe. 😢
@TEAMSTERSLOCAL282NYC
@TEAMSTERSLOCAL282NYC 10 ай бұрын
Would take the Caddy based on looks alone.
@davis119
@davis119 10 ай бұрын
Drivers change seats 💺
@I_kill_hooez
@I_kill_hooez 10 ай бұрын
Mpower! going to trade in my M235i for the new M2 i had a C6, CTS v1, and an ATS im good off american cars theyre built cheap once i got my 1st 4series ive been in love with BMW
@carlosanti7726
@carlosanti7726 10 ай бұрын
Same here traded my 33 Bw Ct4 for a 22 M4 and it was the same price actually, no clue where people are shopping but blackings are over 70k everywhere.
@I_kill_hooez
@I_kill_hooez 10 ай бұрын
@@carlosanti7726 yeah dude i cant pay money for another cheap american car even tho the cadi looks nice i can already smell the cheap gm parts lol
@carlosanti7726
@carlosanti7726 10 ай бұрын
@dubfather2754 lol the seats were amazing until you sat in them. These people on here want to save "the 20k" then find out after they buy the blackwing it's garbage..The m3 is 100% more comfortable and drives better(all around)..coming from someone that owned both & also paid the same amount of money for each one,Bmw for the win.
@I_kill_hooez
@I_kill_hooez 10 ай бұрын
@@carlosanti7726 yeah dude I was stubborn for a while my buddy let me borrow his 3 series one day and it was a wrap lol what you driving currently?
@carlosanti7726
@carlosanti7726 10 ай бұрын
@dubfather2754 I traded my Blackwing for a manual 2022 M3 . The m3 looks more aggressive, built better,drives better and is faster. I had a hellcat prior to the Bw (manual) and still feel the m3 is just a better vehicle minis the Infotainment. Mopar Infotainment was better than both the Bw and M3.
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 10 ай бұрын
The M3 looks sooo much better imho.
@1u5t1n
@1u5t1n 10 ай бұрын
Bmw's dyno is close to the summit of Everest. That's how they get their numbers.
@litspeed7940
@litspeed7940 8 ай бұрын
Back to the drawing board Cadillac
@darrellhines4553
@darrellhines4553 10 ай бұрын
The Germans and Italians, do it better
@yousefal-assaf2985
@yousefal-assaf2985 10 ай бұрын
Underrating power figures? Indeed!
@eddiegarcia1560
@eddiegarcia1560 10 ай бұрын
Reliability wise? No.
@dennissmith7214
@dennissmith7214 10 ай бұрын
They absolutely don’t “do it better”🙄………..no one in their right mind would take a fully loaded CT4 blackwing over a base m3, just doesn’t make sense! 🥱👈🏽
@dennissmith7214
@dennissmith7214 10 ай бұрын
@@yousefal-assaf2985Right I mean why lie to make your vehicles seem superior.😒
@NS416
@NS416 10 ай бұрын
@@dennissmith7214if your looking to make big power, and have a better build quality + aftermarket support the M3 is the clear winner here lol.
@FLBoyCanScrap
@FLBoyCanScrap 10 ай бұрын
Not even close. Brutal
@mirshahnawaz1391
@mirshahnawaz1391 6 ай бұрын
Impressive i like it 👍
@jikwag3415
@jikwag3415 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos. But could you not slam the gears with the shifter? Thats what i used to do when i first learned how to drive stick qhem i was likr 15 hahaha but seriously, love your videos, short, and to the point. Non-biased only facts.
@pompano_jedi172
@pompano_jedi172 10 ай бұрын
I would trust the s58 more than the gm's v6
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
Wrong engine my guy lol.
@pompano_jedi172
@pompano_jedi172 10 ай бұрын
@@BPR-IronCurtain lol fixed it
@BPR-IronCurtain
@BPR-IronCurtain 10 ай бұрын
@@pompano_jedi172 I gotchu fam lol. To be fair the b58 is probably more reliable than both.
@ernie8965
@ernie8965 10 ай бұрын
Bmw it's more money but you get better engineering and quality 2
@Ghanshyam00000
@Ghanshyam00000 10 ай бұрын
Both cars are awesome but M3 has more power than the ct4 v black wings I got a little confused about both cars having the same Hp and torque but the price difference of 22 thousand probably m3 will have a lot of space inside but I like both of cars thanks Sam have a nice day
@osos231
@osos231 7 ай бұрын
It should've been a clear win for the Cadi with the extra 40 ft lbs of torque but the BMW is obvioulsy making at least 100 hp more at the crank.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
Bimmers are just different lol! Unreal how badly that blackwing was getting gapped every single time😄
@tri3pleagent
@tri3pleagent 10 ай бұрын
That usually happens when you have more power 🤷🏿‍♂️
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
@@tri3pleagent yup, but still shouldn't get gapped that badly😄! Bimmers are on another level just admit it bro!
@tri3pleagent
@tri3pleagent 10 ай бұрын
If you think that's bad when you're down 50-60 hp...you know what, never mind.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 10 ай бұрын
@@tri3pleagent You're the one that made a silly comment at me kid! You can guesstimate the power to weight ratio all you want, but it got absolutely destroyed either way!🤡
@tri3pleagent
@tri3pleagent 10 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204 dude...go that way. It's a more powerful car. Add in the guy can't drive stick for shit and there you have it. We all know that car makes quite a bit more than the stated horsepower and the stated horsepower is already 30 more than the Caddy. You sound silly AF.
@pradeepgagajan2499
@pradeepgagajan2499 10 ай бұрын
We all know BMW'S are fast but you guys noticed all the BMW'S always winning on this guy channel? I think he's a bmw fan boy and the race are rigged, u even had a bmw beating a 1000hp trackhawk which is impossible, you should rename your channel to BMWLegion
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
BMWLegion mmmm now thats worth thinking about!
@RDriver2.0
@RDriver2.0 10 ай бұрын
He's had some questionabke matchups throughout his earlier tenure. He has his favorites for sure. He seems to be more inline with BMW (he owns or owned one) and they are one of my favs as well but might come down to availability and securing cars etc.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
@@RDriver2.0 Spot on! We usually pick the highest bidder as the winner . So in this case BMW paid the highest money. So anytime you see a car you love lose, it’s because they paid less money. It’s just fair to pick a winner based on 💰💰💰
@S8ER
@S8ER 10 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
😋😉
@adriank9
@adriank9 9 ай бұрын
Put both cars on the dyno. BMW deliberately underestimates the power of their engines so that their cars can beat the competition in same class. It is even easier if the competition overstates the power of their engines like GM here.
@publixchicken5024
@publixchicken5024 9 ай бұрын
Price is justified. You get a lot more car all around
@MrE.888
@MrE.888 10 ай бұрын
Pound for pound American muscle will never match German engineering
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
Also dollar per dollar
@S8ER
@S8ER 10 ай бұрын
what if your american muscle is german engineered? 🤔
@latino914
@latino914 10 ай бұрын
M3 is too much 💪 for the Malibu
@shariqahmed5637
@shariqahmed5637 10 ай бұрын
ROFL. Car and Driver must be conjuring up additional magic to further anoint the Black Wing as the holy grail of automotive engineering.
@don94pgt
@don94pgt 7 ай бұрын
Show the trap speeds next time please
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch 6 ай бұрын
Good work
@GoBrand0n
@GoBrand0n 10 ай бұрын
German Auto Tech is by far Superior That S58 Engine is a monster!!!
@lancemannion4113
@lancemannion4113 10 ай бұрын
I have no idea why Cadillac insists on sticking to the conjunctivitis headlight and taillight treatment? But it didn't look good at its launch and it certainly hasn't gotten better with time, especially the taillights on this thing. It's a decent enough looking car otherwise, aside from the typical GM interior. But even for the price difference, BMW everyday/all day, even with the goofy grill!
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 10 ай бұрын
Same - once I drove my girls OLD 535i that's been tuned - I'm a believer! Thing just gets OUT! It's also quiet/comfortable and a tank sorta!
@cjaywar5694
@cjaywar5694 10 ай бұрын
Can’t get either in Texas for less than 100k
@maskerua6779
@maskerua6779 10 ай бұрын
Can you change cars after every race? That would be fair
@jefryherrera3242
@jefryherrera3242 10 ай бұрын
Engine wise, I guess the M3 is under rated and the CT4-V BLACKWING is overated. 🤔
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
I think the BW is on point, and the bmw is underrated
@jefryherrera3242
@jefryherrera3242 10 ай бұрын
@SamCarLegion I definitely appreciates the content Sam! Keep them coming! 👏🏽👏🏽
@ashtoncarlisle2750
@ashtoncarlisle2750 10 ай бұрын
Good luck putting that CT4 on an actual race track 😂
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 10 ай бұрын
The CT4 BW is literally built for the racetrack.
@ashtoncarlisle2750
@ashtoncarlisle2750 10 ай бұрын
You have one ?
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 2 ай бұрын
@@ashtoncarlisle2750 yes i do it gets better lap times than the supra with the b58 also shown by many big reviewers
@ashtoncarlisle2750
@ashtoncarlisle2750 2 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBigglesthat’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while. You have no clue about track driving because anyone with experience would know better. Sorry bud but that doesn’t make sense.
@charleshubbard2292
@charleshubbard2292 10 ай бұрын
Is that the same track throttle house goes to? Oh man there’s gonna be a turf war.
@Durk.29
@Durk.29 10 ай бұрын
Pls next sact pack vs CT4 blacking wing !
@cbruno12180
@cbruno12180 10 ай бұрын
I’ll take the caddy for 12k less in the states!! It’s a no brainer with 5k in mods I’ll blow by the m3!!!
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 10 ай бұрын
Hell, a $1000 tune and you are taking it in a roll race. The LF4 is a good engine, not quite S58, but very tuneable as well.
@JadeaRS4
@JadeaRS4 10 ай бұрын
It's not a competition model. Need more then 5g worth of upgrades. Then you kill the warranty as well. Not with the M3 competition.
@Mike604
@Mike604 10 ай бұрын
Who the hell cares about a caddy except for grandpas at a golf course?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 10 ай бұрын
The Tremec is superbly
@cbruno12180
@cbruno12180 10 ай бұрын
@@JadeaRS4 your 100 wrong my buddy just put down pipes on it and cai and jb4 tune simple tune he’s at 590 whp!! Now hp tuners just released a whole suite of tunes on the pcm and tcm and ebcm which costs about 3k after unlocking the pcm his but will have 660 at the wheels now!! So there you’re 5k in mods
@kn3954
@kn3954 10 ай бұрын
I know looks are subjective, but that Cadillac is hideous.
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