U-DRAGS RACE: BMW M4 Competition vs. Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing | Handling, Quarter Mile & More

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@edmundscars
@edmundscars 4 ай бұрын
It's a showdown of superior traction vs. prodigious power. What other matchups like this one would you like to see? Let us know in the comments!
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 4 ай бұрын
@esmundscars where are these tests done? What city and state? I would love to see a properly setup Highland Model 3 Performance tested on the U-Drag course.
@Aj_Campbell11
@Aj_Campbell11 4 ай бұрын
Gt500 vs zl1
@Blas4ublasphemy
@Blas4ublasphemy 4 ай бұрын
Alfa 4C vs Lotus Emira DCT, 4 cyl version
@thatparticulargame6001
@thatparticulargame6001 4 ай бұрын
If you stop and fund one video using Hypercars like the 3 big ones, that video alone would make more money than these separate ones
@Blas4ublasphemy
@Blas4ublasphemy 4 ай бұрын
@@thatparticulargame6001 not at all true, I'd rather see cars perform that I could actually afford to buy
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti 4 ай бұрын
John is definitely a better driver
@Live.drones
@Live.drones 4 ай бұрын
Normally John is the awful driver of the two. They really need to find better drivers in general
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 4 ай бұрын
@@Live.drones to be fair though both of them are far better than most everyone who is going to be purchasing either of these vehicles, so is it really important to find anyone better if that isnt representative of the real world?
@mrsossie
@mrsossie 4 ай бұрын
​@@ALMX5DP it's true they're better than most buyers but let's be honest, that's not the point here. Drag races are just for fun so it's always nice to know the drivers are as equally competent as can be.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 4 ай бұрын
@@mrsossie absolutely just for fun and entertainment and there is a reason they switch drivers (because no two drivers are ever truly equal). Alistair seems to be filling in as well for Kurt so really people should just enjoy these, not worry about who is better, what car is "faster" and just use the videos to improve upon their mood for the day.
@fhuugndsrzxpieobd
@fhuugndsrzxpieobd 4 ай бұрын
​@@mrsossieto be equally competent there should be just one driver, driving all cars in a row. But it's not entertaining
@justme307
@justme307 4 ай бұрын
We know who the better racer is! Switching lanes and drivers is the smartest move U-Drag does.
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they should try all four permutations of it
@Kamukix
@Kamukix 4 ай бұрын
​@@dj_laundry_list I was saying that while watching and seeing they would need to do a tie-breaker run. I really wish they had done that instead. Still a good video though.
@mileswoods5479
@mileswoods5479 4 ай бұрын
i agree
@DoctorJedi
@DoctorJedi 4 ай бұрын
The best car upgrade is to upgrade the driver.
@dutchdna
@dutchdna 4 ай бұрын
You ain't kidding!~
@6gendj584
@6gendj584 3 ай бұрын
😂
@_Chev_Chelios
@_Chev_Chelios 2 ай бұрын
The most effective upgrade is to upgrade the nut behind the wheel.
@my2004Ze33
@my2004Ze33 4 ай бұрын
It's a driver's race between the two. The Blackwing has the top end and the M4 has the agility and launch. Both are awesome cars.
@IbrahimKhan0699
@IbrahimKhan0699 4 ай бұрын
I can hear Thomas going........Blackwingggggggg.......😶‍🌫
@akilh340
@akilh340 4 ай бұрын
Yup
@bflores111
@bflores111 4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ganymede3141
@ganymede3141 4 ай бұрын
It has to be whispered: blacwiiiiinnng...
@IbrahimKhan0699
@IbrahimKhan0699 4 ай бұрын
@@ganymede3141 🤣🤣
@samstealth7
@samstealth7 29 күн бұрын
😂
@jad4ca
@jad4ca 4 ай бұрын
Having owned both a first gen and second gen CTS-V and now an M3 Comp xDrive, I love both of these cars and am glad that they exist. I’m sure xDrive would’ve flipped the overall result in this race but you gotta love that supercharged V8 in the CT5 and the ability to pair it with a manual transmission.
@MidwestMotor
@MidwestMotor 4 ай бұрын
One driver is consistently better than the other. YAY Caddy!!!!! 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
@dennissmith7214
@dennissmith7214 4 ай бұрын
Yup all the time, he just gets the best out of most cars!
@BAAB999
@BAAB999 4 ай бұрын
That's all it is because to me the Black Wing will eat him up
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 4 ай бұрын
@@BAAB999no it’s just not true. I’m track days I see these have such trouble putting that power down like suchhhhhh a hard time.
@carbonm2
@carbonm2 Ай бұрын
Bmw is the clear winner you dork lol
@m.x.refrigxolani8365
@m.x.refrigxolani8365 4 ай бұрын
The problem is the difference between the drivers, not the cars.
@AngelValdovinos
@AngelValdovinos 4 ай бұрын
Chevy wins
@jaybomb5022
@jaybomb5022 4 ай бұрын
​@@AngelValdovinosIf you call bearly keeping up with 188 extra Hp and wider tires winning then sure😂
@AngelValdovinos
@AngelValdovinos 4 ай бұрын
@@jaybomb5022 no soul in bmw sorry
@sidthiru1509
@sidthiru1509 2 ай бұрын
@@AngelValdovinos first this 'no soul' bs was just for evs not it's for ice cars too?🤣
@AngelValdovinos
@AngelValdovinos 2 ай бұрын
@sidthiru1509 yes please do your research
@carbonite1983
@carbonite1983 4 ай бұрын
I'm a caddy fan boy but that m4 is nuts!
@F80_Dezzo
@F80_Dezzo Ай бұрын
I’m a Beamer guy but that Caddy is awesome
@bosssho3096
@bosssho3096 4 ай бұрын
Blackwing Power did it's job...The M4 with way less HP, and tons less torque to even be close is great...and a testament to BMWs underrated HP. Get the xDrive to even things up and let's see what's what there.
@WhisxBeerus
@WhisxBeerus 4 ай бұрын
I'd rather have the CT5-V for that glorious V8.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 4 ай бұрын
Oh dude the xdrive wouldn't of even made this a race. The blackwing woulda been going around the turn while the bmw was at the finish line 😂 I've had both and the xdrive is just another beast.
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 4 ай бұрын
By the numbers (speed at 1/4 and weight) the Caddy only makes 48 more HP. BMW is notorious for understating HP, about 90 in this case and the Caddy isn't proving to be making its claimed hp.
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 4 ай бұрын
basic tune on the bimmer and its gone
@daryldaniels4400
@daryldaniels4400 4 ай бұрын
​@hotdog9262 same for the caddy. LS engines tune better than BMW engines.
@JC-ew2mn
@JC-ew2mn 4 ай бұрын
Best auto comparison test format on Utube 👏
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 4 ай бұрын
Having had a rwd m4 and now an xdrive is truly a different beast. Mine stock was doing a 2.8 sec 0-60. RWD only managed 3.5-3.7.. i like how yall kept it fair though it should always be rwd vs rwd and awd vs awd. Its just such a huge advantage in races like this.
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 4 ай бұрын
3.5-3.7 RWD to 60 is more impressive to me than the 2.8 awd. Not that the seat of your pants feel is more exciting in the RWD, but getting the RWD version to get down to 3.5 is quite the accomplishment. 2.8 AWD is still bonkers in its own right though lol.
@samuelreid603
@samuelreid603 2 ай бұрын
im be real with you no stock M4 is doing 2.8.. maybe a m8 or m5 but not a m4 comp.. I only know this cus my friends m8 did 2.85 and I did 3.87 in my m240i
@gene7314
@gene7314 Ай бұрын
@@samuelreid603 neither you or your friend achieved any of those times. The computer processing power and auxiliary inputs from the car achieved those times. You just hit the pedal and held on to the steering wheel. Sorry to be blunt and brash but it's the truth. You'd be in a ditch or in the same spot if you turn all the automation off. People got this shiiiii twisted.
@samuelreid603
@samuelreid603 Ай бұрын
@gene7314 ayyy yooo ... do you even have a M4??? Or M8 or M5 ? 😂🤣😂
@dominikarpas7558
@dominikarpas7558 11 күн бұрын
And than you woke up😂😂😂
@floorit4443
@floorit4443 4 ай бұрын
Love this. Caddy is a beast. The manual version is just car heaven.
@garyz0611
@garyz0611 4 ай бұрын
One of the manufacturers is not stating the truth about horsepower if you noticed they both have the same 125 mile an hour trap speed in the quarter mile…..MPH is indicative to horsepower in the 1/4 mile especially with 165 hp difference
@icegamer6981
@icegamer6981 4 ай бұрын
BMW underrates, Americans like to overrate.... Germans advertise HP at the wheel, Americans at the crank.
@garyz0611
@garyz0611 4 ай бұрын
Of the American cars that I have owned I have had 4 Corvette Z06’s and all of them have not been underrated at all, and these were all Dyno tested
@facetiousmonkey5322
@facetiousmonkey5322 4 ай бұрын
@@icegamer6981 BMW has become notorious for underreporting their power levels.
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, I calculated 596 crank M4 and 644 crank Caddy.
@ericsysmin
@ericsysmin 4 ай бұрын
This is not accurate as XDrive vs Rwd is a different calculation. You're looking at higher traction. On paper yea, but in the real world, traction makes a difference.
@j.caraballo1748
@j.caraballo1748 4 ай бұрын
CT5-V Blackwings are so underrated, partially because the lack of advertising on GM’s part the same way they let down the “SS”! I wonder how much better this Blackwing would be with the Camaros 10 spd auto!?
@jacobwest6862
@jacobwest6862 4 ай бұрын
Same transmission. Both use the 10L90
@spengg_shell
@spengg_shell 4 ай бұрын
It has the 10 spd
@AcuraChannel
@AcuraChannel 4 ай бұрын
Keep these races coming! It shows the all around performance of racing vs straight line. As we can see, the driver makes a big difference.
@Jackson-son
@Jackson-son 4 ай бұрын
Regardless of the car performance, the driver's skills are a significant matter ✌️
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list 4 ай бұрын
I like the caddy better but let's admit that the bimmer rocks the purple hard
@Tricolor40004
@Tricolor40004 Ай бұрын
Same man I prefer that caddy but the BMW definitely earns my respect
@superfast30
@superfast30 4 ай бұрын
The Blackwing is the business!
@ojdj13
@ojdj13 4 ай бұрын
This was close! An X drive M4 would be too much sauce for the Caddy
@ridenfish39
@ridenfish39 4 ай бұрын
BMW definitely underrates their cars
@S8ER
@S8ER 4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you guys taking the feedback about track conditions and adding it to the videos. Bravo
@maciejswiercz9737
@maciejswiercz9737 4 ай бұрын
The black wing is a fucking beast .
@duffydon1741
@duffydon1741 4 ай бұрын
No, its not, its an american car!!
@melvinlopez9248
@melvinlopez9248 4 ай бұрын
@@duffydon1741are you serious? 😅
@i.d.6492
@i.d.6492 4 ай бұрын
@@duffydon1741 🤡🫵
@floggyWM1
@floggyWM1 4 ай бұрын
no its not, it has 165 more Hp over M4, and how did it do?
@oshogweikekhai5499
@oshogweikekhai5499 4 ай бұрын
It'd be shameful if it didn't show its 165hp advantage
@rdollie1
@rdollie1 4 ай бұрын
WHAT THE?!?! If you go to 1:35 you'll clearly see that traction control IS OFF in the Blackwing, as evidenced by it's 0-60 time. Not sure why they run one car with and one w/o traction control, but I guess it keeps it a closer race.
@tarynbrent1
@tarynbrent1 4 ай бұрын
This Englishman is a horrible driver. He realized as much at 9:04ish. He got bailed out with a hiccup by the other driver in race 3.
@brandanmichael6982
@brandanmichael6982 11 күн бұрын
That Caddy and the A10 trans crackin off gears like it ain’t got nothing else to do. drool:
@joedesi99
@joedesi99 4 ай бұрын
You need the 2 drivers to be more evenly matched to compare the 2 cars side by side
@JDSFLA
@JDSFLA 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2024 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing with the 6-speed manual, and I can confirm it is maximum fun to drive.
@BigDave855
@BigDave855 4 ай бұрын
BMW always lies about power numbers, we know its making those advertised numbers at the wheels +.
@johnnys.9040
@johnnys.9040 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter much, just goes to show how good BMW motors and engine/transmission tuning is, it's a 3.0l inline 6 vs a 6.2l V8, both with forced induction from the factory
@JasneetSingh
@JasneetSingh 4 ай бұрын
BMW just tells WHP instead of crank and that's not lying. I'd prefer manufacturers only publish WHP.
@yessinerabii7176
@yessinerabii7176 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnys.9040 I really don't understand how people ignore these facts, less than half the displacement, 2 cylinders short, and still manages to compete. However I don't like the design at all, I wouldn't buy one of these even if I was able to afford it, I would most likely go for a car with a respectful design and a V8 (a combination BMW doesn't offer in its ongoing lineup), but I appreciate the defying-physics engineering.
@BigDave855
@BigDave855 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnys.9040 Why would it not matter??. the 3.0 is running much higher boost to compensate for less displacement, and it still makes less HP. the 6.2 is only operating with 9.4-9.7 PSI, while the M comp is around 24 to 26 Psi, more than double . the 6.2 makes 495 Hp N/A. the 3.0 makes 285 N/A.
@BigDave855
@BigDave855 4 ай бұрын
@@JasneetSingh BMW states 472 HP, but produces 520 at the wheels!!! which means the car is makes closer to 600 at the crank.. that's a total lie!!!! tell me where the 472 hp number comes from?
@samhelsel443
@samhelsel443 4 ай бұрын
As the owner of a 2024 CT5V Blackwing who attended the V Performance Academy at Spring Mountain, I can tell you it looks like both drivers did not properly launch the Caddy. I routinely do 0-60 in 3.3 seconds. Also, this is not a good comparison to begin with because it's a much lighter weight coupe vs a sedan. The proper race would have been an M5 Competition. Car & Driver did that comparison along with a Tesla Plaid at Willow Springs in CA. Check it out
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 2 ай бұрын
Cadillac for me with its distinctive vertical lights. No buckteeth BMW for me.
@DMW23
@DMW23 13 сағат бұрын
You can't see the BMW grill if you're being gapped
@Kiky001
@Kiky001 2 ай бұрын
BEST possible format ! Love it !
@johnnynikkisophie
@johnnynikkisophie 4 ай бұрын
There’s no way these M4s have just 500hp. Lol
@chrism869
@chrism869 4 ай бұрын
550hp at most
@bjsaunders5170
@bjsaunders5170 4 ай бұрын
@@chrism869 they are 500 to the wheels so crank is like 600-615.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 4 ай бұрын
@@bjsaunders5170 Nah, more like 575. According to Car & Driver, there is a 15% power loss for RWD cars when comparing crank vs wheel power. Average Power Loss (%) FWD 10 RWD 15 AWD 20 So the Caddy is probably 'only' making 568hp to the wheel.
@Sonic_1000
@Sonic_1000 4 ай бұрын
B58 and S58 are underated. My stock 21 Supra made 399 at the wheels.
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines
@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines 4 ай бұрын
@@bjsaunders5170 gone are the days of 20% power loss to the wheels! 500WHP will be around 550-560 crank!
@ekaddo
@ekaddo 4 ай бұрын
Great format. Can't wait for the next one. Keep up the good work
@wearethetraffic
@wearethetraffic 4 ай бұрын
Big fan of the BW... Had a G80 M3 CX also an amazing car, with the advantage of AWD. I would love to see a manual M3 vs a manual BW
@scottw7895
@scottw7895 4 ай бұрын
Surprising to see the m4 competitive to say the least. The xdrive version would have been a decisive win.
@ronvancleave3085
@ronvancleave3085 4 ай бұрын
Power to weight --> BMW 7.53 versus 6.17 Cadi , when-ever u c "Predict" these types of "mostly straight line" comparisons, start with Power to Weight ratios. @43s in video.
@scottw7895
@scottw7895 4 ай бұрын
@@ronvancleave3085 well yea but the numbers are just numbers and not necessarily accurate. The m3 dumps closer to its advertised power than GM cars in general.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 4 ай бұрын
100% the m3 comp xdrive is already sitting in 9th place on the leaderboard and the m4 xdrive is weighs slightly less and is a slim margin faster..so the xdrive m4 would of obliterated the blackwing.
@ms8742
@ms8742 4 ай бұрын
Current M4's, especially Xdrive are so fast. Super sleepers.
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 4 ай бұрын
The Caddy just needed the Cadillac of drivers
@benchmark3332
@benchmark3332 4 ай бұрын
Pushrod v8 is a thing of the past, stop with the excuses.
@Stol3nXDrive
@Stol3nXDrive 4 ай бұрын
@@benchmark3332Bro is butt hurt over a comment
@chrispyy606060606
@chrispyy606060606 4 ай бұрын
Great race! You need to find an X-drive M3 or M4 though. Mine’s consistently running 3.0-3.1 0-60mph, 11.1 at 124mph bone stock. Half a second faster than the regular RWD comp.
@bosssho3096
@bosssho3096 4 ай бұрын
I have not made it to the track yet (NED in NH which is like 50' above sea level), but where are you running...b/c that 1/4 mil is FIRE!
@usonumabeach300
@usonumabeach300 4 ай бұрын
Lot of factors. Altitude, temperature, track condition including a prepped surface. Drag strips have sticky, the runway they use doesn't.
@brandonhodnett5420
@brandonhodnett5420 4 ай бұрын
Your grandma is fast in XDrive cause anyone can do it, where’s the fun or skill in that?
@chrispyy606060606
@chrispyy606060606 4 ай бұрын
@@brandonhodnett5420 I’ve owned two manual G8X cars. Hip injury from an accident forced the switch to X-drive. Once I’m recovered I’ll be back to manual in 2026. :)
@chrispyy606060606
@chrispyy606060606 4 ай бұрын
@@usonumabeach300 X-drive is actually usually a bit quicker on the street as you aren’t heat soaking idling in the staging lanes and the front tires are warmer from street driving. They’re very consistent.
@skaughtmc6591
@skaughtmc6591 4 ай бұрын
They really need to add more cones at the U to force similar lines. So many of these races feel like they come down to who can get the best line out of the corner.
@michaelmartinson7083
@michaelmartinson7083 4 ай бұрын
Sports racing, Caddy can't hang with BMW. Let's compare the BMW Twin Turbo V8 vs Caddy V8.
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
They needed the top model Caddy to not get fully embarassed obviously. They even used the slower Rear wheel drive M4 instead of the Xdrive to give the Caddy an even bigger advantage. And it still lost 2 out of 3 races. Wonder how much Cadillac pays for these reviews.
@weshoward1984
@weshoward1984 3 ай бұрын
9:09 When you realize you were just out drove lol
@supremewhip
@supremewhip 3 ай бұрын
“That was pretty close”… Literally bus lengths apart.
@woodahl
@woodahl 4 ай бұрын
I’ve stoplight-raced the CT5-V Black with my M3 G80 Comp xDrive, multiple times, I have never lost. In fact, it’s not even close.
@reyfuentes4572
@reyfuentes4572 4 ай бұрын
AWD VS Rwd??? Yea figures ...now do a 60 roll and see if it's the same outcome
@fehnasio
@fehnasio 4 ай бұрын
@@reyfuentes4572 saldy even at a 60 roll, an m3 will eat a ct5 v black wing
@dansherwood9851
@dansherwood9851 4 ай бұрын
Eat this…😮
@reyfuentes4572
@reyfuentes4572 4 ай бұрын
@fehnasio we just saw the ct5 blackwing walk the m4... unless u modded or tuned ur NOT walking away from a blackwing...unless it's the slower ct4 v blackwing...but a ct5? Not a chance
@chrism869
@chrism869 3 ай бұрын
@@fehnasio hell no it wont ct5v blackwing will walk a stock m3 xdrive
@danziger69
@danziger69 4 ай бұрын
The Caddy is awesome! Great sound and great performance...with a manual! The BMW is okay, but not in the same league.
@alkonaut9985
@alkonaut9985 3 ай бұрын
The turbocharged crappy BMW is perfect for democrats, no American patriot would choose it over the Caddy. Blackwing for the win!!
@danziger69
@danziger69 3 ай бұрын
@@alkonaut9985 I wouldn't call either a political statement, though I'm glad the USA is still making great cars like the Caddy.
@alkonaut9985
@alkonaut9985 3 ай бұрын
@@danziger69 Amen brother.
@thepetrolman4879
@thepetrolman4879 2 ай бұрын
The bimmer performs better tho. If you love being slower, buy American.
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
​@@alkonaut9985If the M4 beats the POS Caddy already, imagine what an M5 will do.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 4 ай бұрын
Cadillac all day.
@lucassitanggang5154
@lucassitanggang5154 4 ай бұрын
All Day everyday
@RYTF5
@RYTF5 4 ай бұрын
Unquestionably
@duffydon1741
@duffydon1741 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 4 ай бұрын
A cheap Chevy at the end
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 4 ай бұрын
@@hassanger8128 My parents had an Audi A6 once. Wound up in the junkyard after about ten years. "German engineering" is so overrated.
@andrewking1427
@andrewking1427 4 ай бұрын
Someone needs to start doing U drag competitions. I’d do it
@MistaFaro
@MistaFaro 4 ай бұрын
Why do you guys show the race in the introduction? I always find myself skipping the intro so i don't see the result before the Drag race even begins!
@Hawkeye-zp8bv
@Hawkeye-zp8bv 4 ай бұрын
Me too. They used to show more of it in the intro and I'd skip it instantly, I think they've realized that in the video analytics but still, full reee t ard of them to show ANY of the race in the intro as it gives away too much.
@justme307
@justme307 4 ай бұрын
@@Hawkeye-zp8bv I skip the beginning to get to the statistics screen, then skip to the two races, then skip to the test summary.
@wesleywalls7582
@wesleywalls7582 4 ай бұрын
What a phenomenal race between to phenomenal cars. It would be great to see these two run with the manual transmissions!
@MrSupersaiyangoku
@MrSupersaiyangoku 4 ай бұрын
The Blackwing just sings to my soul Looks way better than the BMW. Always knew it would win here it beat the m5 CS around willow springs. And that car is faster than what is presented here. And now that there’s a precision package. The 2025 Black wing CT5 is faster still than shown here
@intelligentcarreviews8592
@intelligentcarreviews8592 4 ай бұрын
Tires on the m5cs were not the proper tires, did you not listen?
@Stol3nXDrive
@Stol3nXDrive 4 ай бұрын
@@intelligentcarreviews8592Still, the time difference was pretty big considering how much more expensive the M5 was And the Blackwing was in manual form, so if you got the auto caddy against the M5 CS with proper tires, the Blackwing would still smoke it
@johncena-hq1ti
@johncena-hq1ti 4 ай бұрын
@@intelligentcarreviews8592it’s awd lol
@ThatPurpG80
@ThatPurpG80 3 ай бұрын
Need 2 good drivers, not just one. Would also be more fair if you had a g80 xdrive instead of rwd.
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 4 ай бұрын
BMW lies about HP. Like alot of manufacturers.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 4 ай бұрын
I love the way BMW lying
@Mrstevejackson100
@Mrstevejackson100 4 ай бұрын
Bmw is just plain hard to beat as an all around package...
@i.d.6492
@i.d.6492 4 ай бұрын
I always preferred CT4V / 5 over any m car M. They more rare, and the glorious V8 which is so rare these days. Can't beat the sound
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 4 ай бұрын
The CT4 doesn't come with a V8. The CT5 will definitely lose to any M3/4 X Drive. The CT 5 should compete with the 5 Series and not the 4 Series. The M5 will definitely sh!t on any Caddy. Finally, who in their right mind would pick a cheap Chevy over a BMW?!
@BulletSpoung
@BulletSpoung 4 ай бұрын
For being two different car brands they are totally even, very impressive.
@user-unionwrestling
@user-unionwrestling 4 ай бұрын
We all know that BMW under rates their horsepower, but during the first race, there's no way in hell that that Cadillac doesn't have a malfunction somewhere because it's a Cadillac with over 160 more horsepower should have caught that BMW. 9:37
@septopus3516
@septopus3516 4 ай бұрын
🤡😢 cry some more... when has anything American beat anything European or British or even some Japanese counterparts..? ill wait... any class of cars, ill wait...
@Jamal-ub1ko
@Jamal-ub1ko 4 ай бұрын
Its a Cadillac so it was probably built broken tbh
@thejoseandresshow
@thejoseandresshow 4 ай бұрын
If one of them has a bad launch it's game over so probably the CT5 cut out due to will spin and the M4 did not
@user-unionwrestling
@user-unionwrestling 4 ай бұрын
@@thejoseandresshow that's probably a correct assessment!
@0one1two3five8
@0one1two3five8 3 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed the delta in driver skill?
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 2 ай бұрын
Gimme that Caddy. Man I love those new CT5s
@origaminefretami3480
@origaminefretami3480 2 ай бұрын
Its insane how german cars outperform american cars with so much less power. Cant hang with the Euros.
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
510 german hp >> 650 american hp
@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 2 ай бұрын
@@mateokovac2642 What a dumb comment! 😂🤣😂 Racing is not just HP and besides the "American" won.
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
@@Mandolin1944 the American car lost 2 races out of 3. The Bmw won, no matter what this Cadillaccommercial says 🤣
@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 2 ай бұрын
@@mateokovac2642 Sorry I didn't know that you are blind and deaf or that you can't comprehend the idea of finishing times? Which "TWO" races did the BMW win? As I recall there were three dig races and the Caddy won two of them (9:20 & 12:26) if you are too slow to follow the video slow it down! The Blackwing kicked BMW ass. And to say U-drags is owned by GM is just plain ignorant and stupid. But then you are probably European...
@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 2 ай бұрын
@@mateokovac2642 😂😂😂😂😂 Sorry I didn't know that you are blind and deaf or can't comprehend the finishing times. Which "TWO" races did the BMW win? As I recall there were three dig races and the Caddy won two of them (9:20 & 12:26) if you are too slow to follow the video slow it down! The Blackwing kicked ass. And to say U-drags is owned by GM is just plain ignorant and stupid. But then you are probably European...
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 4 ай бұрын
I have BMWs but that Blackwing is pretty nice looking. Wouldn't mind one.
@teehud313
@teehud313 4 ай бұрын
Dude is a horrible driver. And y'all know who I'm taliking about.
@Blu_Ice_392
@Blu_Ice_392 4 ай бұрын
This kinda makes me glad dodge no longer offers the hellcat, now i don't have to choose between it and the blackwing, what a f'n beast the BW is
@mikealanzo
@mikealanzo 4 ай бұрын
In case you didn't know, that's 503hp at the wheels on the bimmer... BMW has a tendency to bullshit about their hp figures... That thing's got around 560hp - 570hp.... So it's not THAT underpowered! When it comes to SC's, they tend to use 60 - 80hp to aid the engine... Simple math puts the BMW just 30 - 40 hp under the Caddy, add another 150Kg extra weight on the Caddy, well... there you have the race results and why the caddy was just a tad faster...
@vladdorel9081
@vladdorel9081 4 ай бұрын
also 100 HP more for the Cadillac...put a bmw with 690 HP and youu will see
@icegamer6981
@icegamer6981 4 ай бұрын
And the Americans like to bullshit advertise fake HP numbers... I prefer the German way of doing things: under promise and over deliver.
@mikealanzo
@mikealanzo 4 ай бұрын
@@vladdorel9081 No, you're somewhat wrong. The Bimmer has got 503 hp at the wheels, that's about 670hp at the crank The Caddy's got around 540hp at the wheels after drivetrain loss and SC hp loss... That puts the bimmer just 40hp shy of the caddy that weights 150kg more...
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 4 ай бұрын
​@icegamer6981 Crank hp is not BS. Thats how much the engine makes Drivetrain loss confuses most ppl. Advertsing crank is still honest
@mikealanzo
@mikealanzo 4 ай бұрын
@@icegamer6981 It's not bs advertise, many seem to overlook the amount of hp loss due to the supercharger!
@GreenmanBlunt22
@GreenmanBlunt22 4 ай бұрын
BMW sandbags/underrates like no one else LOL! They also have the chassis sorted better than anyone else. Wish Ford would have had them sort the GT500 out. BMW just hooks and books, unlike the GT500 which protests any amount of throttle and just likes to smoke the tires.
@kcw9313
@kcw9313 4 ай бұрын
My fav drag series on KZbin. Makes Carwow look like drag tmz. Stop allowing the editor in chief guy drive. He lacks the driving skills.
@_Chev_Chelios
@_Chev_Chelios 4 ай бұрын
Mat Watson would both of these clowns. Alastair (is that the blonde guy) doesn’t belong in this role. He cannot drive. The older guy who is often driving in these udrags is by far the best driver they have.
@adk7962
@adk7962 4 ай бұрын
Good race Gents! So it seems the Cadillac is the slightly (and I mean only slightly) faster car. And Jonathan is the slightly better driver. Awesome episode! And yeah like everyone says, BMW is sandbagging the HP numbers for sure.
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 4 ай бұрын
John is the better driver, and the Caddy is the faster car. Lots of fun watching this one.
@SuminRandom
@SuminRandom 4 ай бұрын
“Good lunch good lunch”😂😂 I’m pretty sure he said launch, but ima actually starting using good lunch wen I race it has a good taste to it haha😂👏🏾
@maromyers964
@maromyers964 4 ай бұрын
Id rather the M4. bmw is just an amazing deiving machine
@gr8weight
@gr8weight 4 ай бұрын
One Crude 60+ year old engine (over head valve pushrod huge displacement) vs a modern double overhead cam 4 valve engine of less than half the size beating it. Glad GM (and Chrysler)FINALLY is done with those engines.
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 4 ай бұрын
lol driver mod is real
@ahmedinihosalem5967
@ahmedinihosalem5967 3 ай бұрын
@Carwow should do this type of drag race
@jenningswinfrey8171
@jenningswinfrey8171 2 ай бұрын
So you think a car that has 668 hp is a good race with car that only 505..and cost less....ridiculous
@alessandroarriz
@alessandroarriz Ай бұрын
They cost about the same 80k not including the bmw CSL which is 150k
@jenningswinfrey8171
@jenningswinfrey8171 Ай бұрын
Any bmw with similar hp will easily beat the caddy all day any day​@alessandroarriz
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 4 ай бұрын
I've done 3.2 0-60mph in my blackwing. You launch in manual mode in 2nd gear then switch to auto really quick and it hooks up and sends. Did that last year at Bradenton, FL without VHT (unprepped surface) and ran an 11.2 @130mph other owners do that with 10 speeds
@maciejswiercz9737
@maciejswiercz9737 4 ай бұрын
At the end of the day the black wing is faster . It’s a bad ass car . I own a ZL-1 Camaro just did land speed racing at loring AFB and with an 8 mile side / head wind it went 181 mph in 1.5 miles . It pulled like a train to the top … those engines are mean .
@dustythibodaux
@dustythibodaux 3 ай бұрын
m4 is underrated...
@MRmotorworkz
@MRmotorworkz 4 ай бұрын
Taking a second to acknowledge they were both slower than the Hyundai 😅 😖
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 4 ай бұрын
It is a cheap EV. Even the Chinese are now doing the same crap
@electric8668
@electric8668 4 ай бұрын
Should not have been that close with the Caddy having over 150 HP more.
@ronvancleave3085
@ronvancleave3085 4 ай бұрын
Power to weight --> BMW 7.53 versus 6.17 Cadi , when-ever u c "Predict" these types of "mostly straight line" comparisons, start with Power to Weight ratios. @43s in video.
@electric8668
@electric8668 4 ай бұрын
@@ronvancleave3085 I think the BMW does not state the real HP.
@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 2 ай бұрын
@@electric8668 So then you are admitting that the actually Cadillac does NOT have 150 more HP than the BMW??? Do you even KNOW what you are writing???😂😂
@electric8668
@electric8668 2 ай бұрын
@@Mandolin1944 Dude apparemtly reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
@Mandolin1944
@Mandolin1944 2 ай бұрын
@@electric8668 🤣🤣🤣Since BMW UNDER reports its HP and the P/W ratio was based on REPORTED HP then it stands to reason that the BMW is LESS than 150 HP down on the Cadillac! QED
@emgiusti88
@emgiusti88 2 ай бұрын
Why are you matching a compact sedan class vs a midsize sedan class? And the CT-5 has way more hp. What a weird match-up. Should be CT-4 Blackwing,
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
That would be an embarassment for the Ct-4. Hence why they needed the top model Cadillac
@LifeChangingMotivation450
@LifeChangingMotivation450 4 ай бұрын
8:03 the driver in the m4 ruined the launch, i feel like he did it on purpose too😂😂😂😂😂
@Stol3nXDrive
@Stol3nXDrive 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think so You can still kinda see the M4 spinning a bit once it starts moving Yet I could just be blind lol
@AlfredoElDorado
@AlfredoElDorado 4 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to say that the Xdrive would've won, but it doesn't matter. Both cars are rear-wheel drive, so the races are fair. The Blackwing won, that's it, no excuses.
@SZUSEast1
@SZUSEast1 4 ай бұрын
No it definitely matters. It has much less horsepower and rwd.
@AlfredoElDorado
@AlfredoElDorado 4 ай бұрын
@@SZUSEast1 Can you read? Both cars are rwd, the blackwing is just faster.
@on1wasted
@on1wasted 3 ай бұрын
no way the blackwing competes with the m4 the m5 would dust this if its this close with a m4 lol
@jamesclayton7161
@jamesclayton7161 4 ай бұрын
I love the concept of this series, but the only downfall is it’s always one driver is better than the other, I think in fairness to find out which car is better is to have two equally skilled drivers or maybe hire 2 professional drivers
@MrAero_1
@MrAero_1 4 ай бұрын
I'm actually surprised that they found someone that has an even worse launch than John!
@basketballfacts9324
@basketballfacts9324 3 ай бұрын
I love how the one who lost twice proved that it’s the driver not the car
@AJLROCKS8
@AJLROCKS8 4 ай бұрын
The first race was thrown to get to the 3rd race. Caddy should have continued to pull which the first race didn’t. Caddy should have won all three races. Look at the second leg on race 2 and 3 vs race 1. Facts.
@SZUSEast1
@SZUSEast1 4 ай бұрын
This barely beat an M4 and people say its better than an M5....!? 😂😂😂😂😂
@thepetrolman4879
@thepetrolman4879 2 ай бұрын
American copium.
@mateokovac2642
@mateokovac2642 2 ай бұрын
No one says that.
@notyourtypicalfarah7194
@notyourtypicalfarah7194 2 ай бұрын
Its way faster than the M4. Bmw lies about their power. G82 m4 makes 600 at crank and M5 makes 700hp at the crank.
@shamma1977
@shamma1977 4 ай бұрын
Just when I thought the M4 couldn’t look any fuglier, you brought the Barney edition!
@mcarter0519
@mcarter0519 4 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the race be between CT4-V Blackwing? The CT5-V Blacwing is more of an M5 competitor.
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 4 ай бұрын
I would like to see that too. Problem is the M4 makes truly over 100 hp more than the CT4 BW. The 472 or whatever it is for the CT4 is accurate, this M4 by the numbers in this test made about 596 crank hp. So even RWD vs. RWD the M4 is destroying the CT4.
@halow4
@halow4 4 ай бұрын
The short dude is the clear better driver between these two. I'm not too surprised since the BMW is 400lbs lighter and power is underrated. It's probably really pushing close to 600hp, glad the cadillac won though
@EmperorEdwardXIII
@EmperorEdwardXIII 4 ай бұрын
Kurt would be better against Elfalan in this Udrag. Amazing race love it
@tornatic1983
@tornatic1983 4 ай бұрын
This is actually a nice garage combo. Bad ass sedan and coupe. Id get the G80 Xdrive though. I had BMW F10 M5 and Jaguar F Type R for almost 3 years and im missing them a little
@petermeister7191
@petermeister7191 4 ай бұрын
This LT4 engine is just the Hammer!
@iramiyahira8301
@iramiyahira8301 4 ай бұрын
BMW. Wow!!!😂❤😂
@ThatsWhatSheSaid75
@ThatsWhatSheSaid75 4 ай бұрын
What a GREAT video!
@bilicki44
@bilicki44 4 ай бұрын
Love these races, when we going to see the C8 ZR1?
@cornbread70s4
@cornbread70s4 4 ай бұрын
John…” this is quite the car…” John, you are also quite the driver!!
@gopaulsalick507
@gopaulsalick507 4 ай бұрын
John is definitely a wayyyy better driver!.. he was the defining factor between the two cars!
@CapnT87
@CapnT87 4 ай бұрын
Are you guys up at altitude with the acceleration numbers being about 0.5s slower than known tested values at around sea level? My bone stock M4 LCI runs 10.9x all day long with only 20hp more than the pre-LCI in the video and the Blackwing is usually lower 11s? I’m also 2.7-2.8 to 60 including 1 foot rollout time.
@P51
@P51 4 ай бұрын
best episode yet USA USA USA
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