2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race. Join this channel to get access to perks: / @samcarlegion
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@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Sorry guys missed this one: Nissan Z CW - 3507 lbs
@SlateBlue_VQ9 ай бұрын
The difference in the roll race between the Z and V was a driver mod. Someone who knows how to shift vs someone who doesn’t. He said “that’s not possible. I think he jumped a little bit” . That’s called knowing how to drive 😂
@SlateBlue_VQ9 ай бұрын
Also the black wing is gm’s top of the line v. wait for the nismo Z
@vigorosoPIMPJr9 ай бұрын
They should get the automatic.
@sinappanis9 ай бұрын
Regardless it shows just how much american car's are overrated whereas most of the rest of the world either accurately rates them or underrates them. Hence why the BMW, I mean Supra, is so quick.
@keanuphillip77259 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying, and the black wing was ahead of the z both times.
@joeblack72629 ай бұрын
@@sinappanis damn y’all love having our nuts in y’all mouths. Overrated who even rated that high. Y’all be making stuff up as y’all go. So much hate and envy til want us to do some bs
@Jr_56469 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z can shift
@purito849 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, really well done
@garyiglesias9 ай бұрын
yup i noticed it too . can barely tell when he shifted and the other dude you can see it clearly when he does .
@misaelc3769 ай бұрын
Fr the sam guy cant drive to save his life 😂
@shaneducholke3649 ай бұрын
The Z had the no lift shift so it is just moving thr stick as fast as you The Z has a no lift shift so that saves a ton of time. Not saying he isn't good, just had an advantage, just like shifting the gates with the car off in neutral, you can be super quick and smooth
@mufasalord9 ай бұрын
@@shaneducholke364 unless I’m mistaken the black wing also has no lift shift from the factory. I’d definitely say the driver in the Z was just good at rowing the gears
@godzilla73919 ай бұрын
Dude in Z rocking back and forth helped push his car for the win. 😅
@johnnycage55139 ай бұрын
head movement gives you 20 horsepower didn't u know?
@IllicitBlackDictator4 ай бұрын
@@johnnycage5513 😭😭😭
@greg12889 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z was on point with every shift…Sam was just a little slower Supra’s gearbox is just a little better than the other two👍👌
@tampablackwing9 ай бұрын
The gear box is not better, the driver is. The supra is lighter however.
@Spiritcr1jsher9 ай бұрын
The gear box is actually worse , driver mod in the Z
@Splentaur7 ай бұрын
@@tampablackwing According to pretty much every Supra vs Z comparison on YT, it is.
@EzComEzG06 ай бұрын
Not even close..You can check that buy watching other vs. video's with decent drivers
@kevinshorr122625 күн бұрын
I have the 2023 ct4-v blackwing the gearbox is amazing plus you can no lift shift I don’t think you can in the other 2… like they said it came down to the drivers is all.
@ATSVRuss9 ай бұрын
Blackwing is faster than both cars in every aspect, goes to show how much a driver mod is needed..
@Striker50_9 ай бұрын
For real
@nickandrew057 ай бұрын
U sir are 1000% right . I raced a Supra last night in my 4bw and even tho i beat him it was only about a cars length. I also have a JB4 tuner in mine
@johnnyx96599 ай бұрын
Z won something? Say it ain't so. 🙂 I'm actually happy to see a win finally.
@germanengineering2049 ай бұрын
I had high hopes for the Z when it came out, but it loses constantly, and also doesn't get the best reviews when compared to the Supra!
@MLProductions.19 ай бұрын
@@germanengineering204all it needs is a tire mod
@shad31289 ай бұрын
@Hellcat818 the tires kill it, otherwise still a great car. Without the sports package the open diff sucks too
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@shad3128so.. it's shite? With the sport package the price becomes the same as the supra.. where the supra is the faster better driving car.. ESPECIALLY on the track lol. Way better engine in the supra too
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@MLProductions.1no it doesn't.. the supra is just better which renders the Z pointless
@godzilla73919 ай бұрын
I feel like whatever car Sam is in thats the car that will lose. 😆 😅
@Striker50_9 ай бұрын
Especially if it's a manual it's painful to watch
@xxthehuskycaboosexx9 ай бұрын
Supra is gonna win, calling it now
@chrism8699 ай бұрын
it did, but i would take the ct4 blackwing, better car overall
@peterbennett41249 ай бұрын
@chrism869 Better car to be in the shop constantly lol
@2012WrxSti9 ай бұрын
had mine for 35k miles, never seen any shops
@peterbennett41249 ай бұрын
@2012WrxSti 35,000 miles that's barely broken in usually problems start at 70-80k miles.
@peterbennett41249 ай бұрын
@2012WrxSti Bet you the first thing to go will be the Tranny. Don't we wish all of them will go.
@stephanemallet1699 ай бұрын
I'll take the cadillac, thank you!
@kirks06G359 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have an electric blue CT4 V BW everyone is surprised it's a 6 speed manual and I love it I can drive with my family and it has a good size trunk it's a great mix of luxery and performance.
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Good choice!
@c.rodriguez79769 ай бұрын
The more I see the Supra in action, the more I like it.
@07wrxtr19 ай бұрын
I just can’t get over it’s use of ovals on the front - They should have done some more sharp angles instead.. wonder if any aftermarket front bumpers are out there?
@behindthebuild80169 ай бұрын
They perform well but the interior sucks
@MizzouRah789 ай бұрын
@@behindthebuild8016How so?
@behindthebuild80169 ай бұрын
Design, quality, space plus u can’t see out your door windows you just see head liner
@MizzouRah789 ай бұрын
@behindthebuild8016 Be specific. Also, the height of the window has nothing to do with "the interior," and it would dramatically change the look.
@Arun9999 ай бұрын
The Supra and the Z are sexy vehicles. Just wish they could be made with a targa top.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
Targa top makes it ugly and adds mega weight
@Arun9999 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 targas are not ugly at all what targas you know are ugly? the only one i think of that is modern is the Lambo Murci with its toupee looking top
@Tender_vigilante9 ай бұрын
That shit is ugly nah
@brandonpittman52439 ай бұрын
Supra was just waking up at 90mph
@moviehaven89069 ай бұрын
Great drag race as always, a rolling race between the Toyota GR supra and the Nissan Z would have added more flavour.
@nallis019 ай бұрын
S U P R A FTW!
@thatr34monster499 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you brought the CT4 BW for another race! I love these videos. Keep em coming 🎉
@biggygaming3 ай бұрын
Too bad he makes the car look bad every time he drives it
@Boogieman_1989Garbage3 ай бұрын
@@biggygamingit is bad 😅😅#Garbage car 🚘
@chilli16952 ай бұрын
@@Boogieman_1989Garbage Best car in the video actually.
@nickbb19209 ай бұрын
After this and the M3 video, I'm convinced the BW is getting the short end of the stick, and I'll openly say I don't drive manual but I know enough and have read enough between these 2 videos to conclude that the bw driver doesn't get all of that tranny, which makes me question if no lift shift was used or not, seems like a lot of power cuts out in between shifts, after constant feedback, why not switch drivers??? I can totally see the B58 beating the bw in a quarter mile run, but there's no way you can convince me that the Z is faster then the BW from a dig, regardless I'd put big money on the bw in a top end race with out a question, top end and around track is where the BW shines
@jonmcclane74339 ай бұрын
Thanks again Sam for the great content. Cheers from Indiana.
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@scottyd05309 ай бұрын
Every time I see a MkV Supra race, I love it even more. Those things are absurdly quick.
@SlickSniper39 ай бұрын
They're fantastic on the circuit, the supra rules. I like all 3 Cars for sure. The caddy is such a good sedan.
@SchafdoggGTO8 ай бұрын
They are definitely nice BMWs for sure.
@scottyd05308 ай бұрын
@@SchafdoggGTO How original. I definitely haven't heard that one before.
@retrocompaq52126 ай бұрын
@@scottyd0530 toyota builds garbage and they had to pay someone else to make a decent car, still way too slow for a flagship sports car, you gotta face the thruth
@scottyd05306 ай бұрын
@@retrocompaq5212 Here's your truth. Do your research before you blatantly make an ass of yourself on the internet. If you hate the car, that's fine. No one is gonna care, but you're allowed your opinion. Face the truth.
@sircefiro9 ай бұрын
Good stuff Sam, you know we love manual days. I don't think the z jumped the first roll and he possibly hesitated a bit on the second to be sure, all 3 cars getting it right look a good match up, love a quick sedan.
@reynaldorivera7439 ай бұрын
Sam great manual shootout .Man that Supra is quick with that B58
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Sure is
@skip741x39 ай бұрын
getting 3.9 with the manual is crazy fast! even the Z with its auto isnt gonna get much better than the low 4's
@mattmasi3039 ай бұрын
Always gotta love how he gets gapped in a short roll race "not far" "not by much" 😂🤦♂️ make that race a half mile and see the gap
@SlateBlue_VQ9 ай бұрын
That dude is something irritating. He said “both the Z and Supra have a weight advantage I’m heavier” but fails to note the 100hp advantage 😂
@user-re8nw4ph5y9 ай бұрын
@@SlateBlue_VQ😅😅😅
@tampablackwing8 ай бұрын
@@SlateBlue_VQcheck the dynos. They're only about 35ish whp difference, oh then make both cars autos ....
@UAE1119 ай бұрын
B58 will say bye bye 😅😅😅
@bigneutron779 ай бұрын
Supra proving everyday that it’s the best affordable sport car out there.
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
70k is a bit of a stretch for affordability but I get your point
@cosmic_gate4769 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Let's be real we are way poorer than Americans. Supra is a normal car to them.
@brandonpittman52439 ай бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476no it isn’t I’m American and 70k is too much for me I just don’t see the worth.
@DezNutzBich9 ай бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476let's also be honest, if you're paying 70k usd for a Supra, you're a god damn dumbass (not you but in general). Used low miled supras go for 50k-60k....
@AnthonyParrilloRI9 ай бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476I'm an American and I'm being real, all these sports car are too expensive nowadays. Also I don't know how it is in canada, but the markups are real brutal down here. Hello from America!
@Bungle9 ай бұрын
I have a Blackwing and they’re faster if you shift around 6,100 RPM instead of taking them up to redline. The car tells you the optimal point to shift with a little green, yellow, red animation in the tachometer if you pay attention to it. I suspect the host of these videos doesn’t know that and that’s why his car always underperforms.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@dylanantenberg55619 ай бұрын
Agreed😭the Z sucks and the blackwing is better in every way then any of these handling wise the Supra might be decent just because of how light it is but engine in the blackwing has a lot more character I got to drive one and it was a lot of fun guy in blackwing does not know how to shift either and you can see it in the video in between them other people in dif cars know how to
@vectorcruzusa9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 you really need to stop copy and pasting your comment. I've seen it at least 4 times already
@vigorosoPIMPJr9 ай бұрын
@@vectorcruzusaeither way he’s still right
@MrTickleBean4 күн бұрын
Yeah, it makes peak power at 5,750rpm no need to take it all the way up to 6,500rpm. 6.1k looks like the sweet spot
@gucciserg80939 ай бұрын
Supra is a Beauty of a car that’s for damn sure!
@anthonyb24269 ай бұрын
Not that it would have drastically changed the outcomes, but the no lift shift makes a distinct sound when activated. If you let off the gas just a little it won't work. The Topher does a review, check out the 15:30ish mark of his video to see what I mean Also, from a 30 roll the caddy should be in 1st gear. It can get to 50 in first, supra and Z second is best, top out under 40 in first.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@anthonyb24269 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 yeah to me it just highlights that all 3 of these are pretty close and it becomes a driver's race. So start in the suboptimal gear from a roll in the BW and even the Z will take you
@DizzyMan249 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935You mean 12.8 at 112 for the manual and 12.3 at 116 for auto, right?
@chilli16952 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Finally someone with a brain in this comment section
@roboticvenom19352 ай бұрын
@@DizzyMan24 car and driver tested 2023 Z at 12.7 for automatic
@HOVIK7509 ай бұрын
Did he leave the Cadillac in rain mode?
@motormusique9 ай бұрын
Would be so hard to pick between the Supra and Blackwing...they are both so amazing. Blackwing is a total rarity in this world as a manual sports sedan, whereas the Supra looks so sexy. I want both.
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
I would have a Z and a Blackwing
@motormusique9 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Interesting. I find some reviewers prefer the Supra because it's faster and agile but some like the Z because it feels more analogue
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
@@motormusique i find the zupra too claustrophobic and I can buy an M2 used for the same money with +2 seats
@shad31289 ай бұрын
@motormusique the supra is pretty ugly compared to both other cars. Also for the money the m2 is better looking and the performance is right there.
@GeronimoBiggles9 ай бұрын
unless you live on a racetrack i agree with Sam, you can't see a thing out of the stupid supra and having 4 doors is so much more practical. I've been in all 3 cars and own the ct4 for the same reasons. My next choice would've been the Z for the cool retro look and analog feel.
@1Springloaded9 ай бұрын
So dam entertaining. 5:30am on a Sunday morning.i got one eye open watching drag races. Still taking BW. These days I'm built a little more for comfort than speed.
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Right on!
@marcusturner52919 ай бұрын
Nice video keep up the good work SAM
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marklinley8159 ай бұрын
B58 again for the win in my book. Hands down. MKV all day for me.
@avirgilio719 ай бұрын
No argument here
@backtoshallabal66629 ай бұрын
Sam curious on your opinion but who would win in a Drag and Roll a 2023 Stock GLI or a 2023 Stock 330i?
@wackit67569 ай бұрын
It sounds like the Supra driver was shifting too soon, didn’t sound close to redline in each gear. What are your requirements for these races in terms of how high to rev? Is it up to each driver?
@mattmasi3039 ай бұрын
Yea I noticed that to , they need a camera pointed at the gauges in the races
@retsehcnamdetinu16729 ай бұрын
Exactly, premature shifting all way thru
@purito849 ай бұрын
I would love to be able to grab that same colored GR Supra with the stick shift but black interior. Man it looks great
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
Why would you want a black interior.. that gets more hot.. more claustrophobic feeling and FAR more boring and cheaper looking. Absolutely mindless, you get tired of it too. A red or nice brown interior? Nope
@jrod62369 ай бұрын
You should be using the no lift shifting feature in the Cadillac.
@FedeJ20238 ай бұрын
Greetings from Argentina we love your channel ✌️🇦🇷
@1laimmiss9 ай бұрын
Supra the king
@nickdaplummaman9 ай бұрын
Need to see that caddy with a driver that knows how to drive. How does the car have flatfoot shifting and you’re not using it….That Z driver has crazy driver mod
@user-lh6fg4fs6y9 ай бұрын
everything seems to be not bad with the caddy - moderate weight, sufficient working volume, solid declared power and torque. But he doesn’t go, dog, he doesn’t go, even if you crack!
@pinkipipe9 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen yet the race and already know who will 🏆
@elstaywinning57359 ай бұрын
Can you get a audi S6 up here? Would like to how is speed and power matches up against other cars
@dennistate99518 ай бұрын
Great video 🤙🤙
@racer2479 ай бұрын
Manual cars make the driver way more important in the outcome of races. So the outcome could be closer than expected, but on paper the Supra should win pretty easily 🤔
@hau5muzeek9 ай бұрын
manual transmissions also make said cars slower than theyd be if equipped with an auto trans like the ZF8. the biggest gripe people had with the traditional sludhboxes was that it delivered a super delayed response to driver input and could never find the right gear quickly enough. that isnt the case anymore
@racer2479 ай бұрын
@hau5muzeek Facts, but these purest keep the " so much more fun to drive " nonsense up. When just about every exotic car over 200K doesn't even have a manual option besides the GT3.
@hau5muzeek9 ай бұрын
@@racer247 hahahahaha, true as fuck. i just don’t understand why people cant just spec it with what kind of trans theyd prefer (pros/cons to both) and move past it, its like some shitty vibe that they refuse to let die, personally i like to have FUN when im out there and couldnt give a rats ass about a fews clowns and their petty dick measuring contests
@sharodbell9 ай бұрын
That’s because it is more fun. What the hell are you on about? 😒
@01gtbdaily309 ай бұрын
@@racer247incorrect , most super cars and hyper cars have a manual transmission but it’s no longer a lazy stick and clutch . Now they have instant gear changes with paddles. You can still do all of the things the “save the manuals” guys scream about but now you can keep both hands on the wheel and no lift shift .
@cavaseno9 ай бұрын
B58!
@lawrencehayden7539 ай бұрын
The Supra makes more hp than what is listed
@TheBreakfastLover9 ай бұрын
Typical BMW
@benlecluyse9 ай бұрын
Insane cars !! ❤❤
@halow49 ай бұрын
I think the CT4 did ok considering its hundreds of pounds heavier then both cars but I think between the supra being underrated by at least 40hp and those cars being 2 door cs the caddy a 4door it was just a lil too much for it. A better matchup would be the Stinger GT vs CT4v vs Dodge charger 392
@brolyvi12119 ай бұрын
All said cars are auto against the ct4. Manual vs manual
@mattmasi3039 ай бұрын
It's the same weight and same power as a base M3 , and I have a feeling it would get gapped by the M3
@drivescene67479 ай бұрын
@@mattmasi303it would absolutely get gapped by an M3, badly
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@drivescene6747M3 does cost more and has inferior driving dynamics.
@ericcleland8179 ай бұрын
The Supra's shifting seems in my opinion to be just a small bit quicker than the Cadillacs. Im not saying it was the driver, but watching the drag races, the cadallic would lose incrimental amounts of distance on the Supra during the shifting, and only while shifting. I would enjoy seeing these vehicles drag race again, but next time with different transmissions. I think that is only fair to compare on that level as well because of how close the vehicles are in both horse power, as well as weight. Yes the Supra does have the advantage in curb weight, but I dont think that a few hundred pounds would decide the winner of the drag races. I enjoyed this video none the less, and look forward to seeing more videos like this.
@DM725139 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z was giving the Blackwing like half a car length before each roll race.
@chilli16952 ай бұрын
those were defiantly driver diff. races I'm afraid. No offense to sam.... but the guy cant drive 😅 The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
@nickbb19209 ай бұрын
It would also be real interesting to see the same cars but with the automatic transmissions, seems like that would level the playing field as you'll leave it to the cars to do the talking instead of the drivers
@setsunaes9 ай бұрын
Supra: "400 what? 472 who? How cute both of you guys."
@CJmk3supraАй бұрын
🌽
@mynock2509 ай бұрын
Great vid, I think thats the first race Ive ever seen the Z win.
@deancm37599 ай бұрын
Very close with the Z on the second roll race because you started out half a car length ahead of him.
@jeremycrookshanks84209 ай бұрын
Great to see these cars race caddy for the win
@slash11lipo9 ай бұрын
Slower shifting was the 4BW problem.
@Driver.Diaries9 ай бұрын
nice runs.... ct4v vs charger 392 would be a good one!
@saved17779 ай бұрын
The caddy is more practical having rear seats nd it has great power impressive 👏
@20VGT9 ай бұрын
USA : 472 HP you get 378 HP Japan : 400 HP you get 440HP
@frankcastle15789 ай бұрын
Germany 389 you get 449
@bobstarr9 ай бұрын
Japan you get what they say, mostly, but the germans say what you get for wheel hp.
@2seep9 ай бұрын
@@bobstarrfor Japan you don’t get what they say it’s a bit understated. The Nissan z has 400hp but in reality it has 372whp which equates to 437bhp
@ph00ny19 ай бұрын
Not even remotely true. Even the automatic CT4-V BW are hitting 420s at the wheel on a dyno. It looks like this needs a proper driver mod to really ring it out considering C&D hit 0-60 in 4 flat in their manual ct4-v BW review
@aireskylinetm84809 ай бұрын
@@frankcastle1578Koreans: u get 365hp u get 450hp
@memopadilla59319 ай бұрын
Sam taking couple seconds on each shift .. 😂 🤣
@misbahagha15739 ай бұрын
Sam. Announce verbally announce the roll start br 👍🏼
@Donpepee4 ай бұрын
Shout out to my boy with the 400z representing Guyana 🇬🇾 i see the glove by the rear mirror
@lucienpetrus38519 ай бұрын
Now folks again that's a Supra watch and learn nuff said Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️
@HOVIK7509 ай бұрын
I definitely want to see more of the cadillac.. that cuts off power.. am i wrong?
@TheImbord2129 ай бұрын
Thought the BW had no lift shift on all 6 speeds?
@davidholmes17719 ай бұрын
Great races! Cant front on that.
@mohalesydneylebea93889 ай бұрын
B58 of the Supra BMW M340i should easily get a W
@jaimatic239 ай бұрын
Huhhh ? Not even the same B58 lol
@carguy...9 ай бұрын
@@jaimatic23yes it is
@jaimatic239 ай бұрын
@@carguy... the b58 in the supra is not in any other bmw vehicle, the B58B30C & B58B3001 are r&d & tuned motors and transmission by gazoo racing team
@carguy...9 ай бұрын
@@jaimatic23 it is almost exactly the same??? Same power and tq......I should know!!
@thebigsolarz40149 ай бұрын
Hi Sam I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but if you do can you do the Elantra n vs the trd ?
@airjase36919 ай бұрын
I love these introductions
@coyotee_s19739 ай бұрын
That blackwing is a legend lol, it made in onto sam page and throttle house
@mehrdadmehrsam36439 ай бұрын
Very good race tank you🎉 but must try to better change shift with cadi ,lose many power beetween change gear .❤❤
@85CEKR9 ай бұрын
Something happened with the z vs the caddy drag race, near the beginning the caddy all of the sudden jumps more than a car length ahead, I'm suprised they didn't redo that race
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@ralphsmallblock43679 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Sorry but not a fair comparison especially to a sports car vs a sedan
@tracewaybos9 ай бұрын
This is going to be interesting IF all are manual. Going to be close between CT4 & Supra.
@cosmic_gate4769 ай бұрын
Z turned out to be faster than the blackwing even with those trash bridgestone tires lol
@mm84369 ай бұрын
I honestly want to see the Z vs Supra on the same tires
@AlienCreatureThing9 ай бұрын
@@mm8436the Supra gaps the Z almost every time
@cosmic_gate4769 ай бұрын
@@mm8436 Watch Savagegeese video he did a comparison with same tires. Supra still wins due to lower weight, better suspension and a bit more torque. Not by a huge amount but a clear win forsure.
@cosmic_gate4769 ай бұрын
@@AlienCreatureThing You can tell who's a teenager when they use the word "gap" unironically 😆
@LearningFast9 ай бұрын
If all 3 are stock and all 3 are manual then the Supra should win. If any one of them are automatic and the others are manual then the automatic should win. Should be a really interesting race no matter what.
@robbypitas620Ай бұрын
Not on paper no, but Toyota and BMW are lying about the amount of power the supra makes to the crank. It makes that to the wheels
@sneekyturbo_AMG9 ай бұрын
Great race
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET8 ай бұрын
The Z. Muffler sounds like my WEED EATER 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@avirgilio719 ай бұрын
M340i is a much better comparison to the BW Caddy IMO
@thatr34monster499 ай бұрын
Yes auto m340i xdrive vs bw ct4 manual. Do you guys pull these ideas from your posterior? 😂
@latino9149 ай бұрын
Two car icons and a malibu 😮
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@brandonpittman52439 ай бұрын
They better not say anything about the tires on the z . I’m sick of hearing how bad the tires are
@DezNutzBich9 ай бұрын
A-facking-men!!
@diegomjangos49049 ай бұрын
Sam has to learn to flat foot shift. That’s the reason the Z pulled so hard between shifts. But yeah good races
@ZXRSixSix-Z9 ай бұрын
You should start with the drag, then a roll race. How much does the Z weight?
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
You start with rolls then drags so the tires warm up better. You need more grip on a drag than roll
@ZXRSixSix-Z9 ай бұрын
@SamCarLegion editing. I get that. Do a roll first, but edit it to come up second.
@eddieescobar47225 ай бұрын
These cars are sick all of them ill drive anyone ofthese badass rides ❤💯💪👍
@joshuapark54669 ай бұрын
I don’t get how the ctv4 is losing vs these cars with like 70 more hp? Is it because of weight difference? Can someone explain.
@nickbb19209 ай бұрын
The B58s are no joke (Supra engine) and they're under rated from their true hp numbers, they actually make over 380 whp, which is more then the advertised 380 crank hp, and at 500 less lbs it should do what it did from the dig, but the V losing to the Z is just living proof that its the driver, and I don't think the V driver was utilizing the no lift shift, which results in the V losing boost and power in between shifts, it's actually quite visually noticeable from the out side of car camera view, I'd be willing to put good money on the V in every race from a 50-60 mph roll, assuming the driver is using no lift shift or better yet, the 10 speed
@cavaseno9 ай бұрын
The Supra is such a good car
@mareo1879 ай бұрын
Let me guess the Blackwing is gonna be 2nd or possibly be a close 2nd, and the supra is gonna be 1st. The Z however based on reviews and the speed of the car it's possibly gonna be placed in 3rd.
@mattmasi3039 ай бұрын
Z is faster than the blackwing
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@mattmasi303The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is. The Z is not faster then the Blackwing. And that's a fact. It's close though
@q6_zilla9 ай бұрын
Z and Supra would be an awesome roll race
@ZillaFullBoost9 ай бұрын
Would have been a drivers race.
@SSH9399 ай бұрын
It's been done and Supra won on all accounts
@q6_zilla9 ай бұрын
@@SSH939 every real world encounter would be different. Ive seen the Z win before when it was manual vs manual. Basically drivers race.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@q6_zillathe Z winning is a lot more rare than the supra winning.. don't cope! Supra is faster, and that's an objective fact. Now does that mean if you take a slow shifter in the supra and race him against the stig in the Z he'll win? No of course not
@NBC_NCO8 ай бұрын
Aerodynamics came into play. But in all, a very fair race.
@pcosta13859 ай бұрын
Sam you have some of the best content on here. Love these super practical videos with attainable performance cars. Keep it coming!
@SamCarLegion9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@thatr34monster499 ай бұрын
Agreed
@muhammedbappa75609 ай бұрын
Please sir kindly give us nsx vs supra
@crxtodd169 ай бұрын
Huh. Interesting. After seeing the results I initially thought that GM must be overrating their HP numbers - but I looked up some dyno sheets on the CT4-V Blackwing and it's pretty consistently putting out more than 400whp. I suppose it's just not able to really put all its power to the ground, thus getting beat by other cars that put out less power...? Thanks for the race!!
@nvrdwn31409 ай бұрын
It weighs a good amount more though
@crxtodd169 ай бұрын
@@nvrdwn3140 That's a good point.
@GeronimoBiggles9 ай бұрын
yes at least 300 lbs more than the other two.. but i own the ct4 BW and love it it's the best car out of the bunch to live with day to day and good visibility unlike the supra which you can barely see out of.
@ericinfante18859 ай бұрын
Besides weight, at least with the supra, it's been known to have more power than rated for both 2 port 2020 models and even more for the 6 port models on dynos. About 380s whp for 2020 and 400whp for the 6 ports
@ericinfante18859 ай бұрын
@GeronimoBiggles dang bro nonway the supra got poor visibility? Ur killing me man lol. I always love 4 door sports cars, I love the sleeper vibe and practicality of them. My top 3 were always the CTS-V, Chevy ss, and Lexus ISF. Never wanted coupes but only 3 coupes really call my name Imani that's the corvette C7 ZR1, Chevy camaro ZL1, and the supra. I hate coupes other than those. Supra out of them all really is my #1 for money to performance and looks. I wish they make a 4 door version in a lexus suit because I gave up on the isf coming back but also the older isf are insanely pricey
@briansimpson56649 ай бұрын
The Supra all day every day... Each Time the guy let up at the end. He was no where near the redline
@prettiboiCoBy608 ай бұрын
CT4 Black Wing needs a driver mod. Slow shifts and not shifting at consistent shift points.
@michaelgilmore3419 ай бұрын
Not hearing the BW in launch mode. No revs before the launch. Comes in the manual and auto.
@JORGECASTRO-pb9mw9 ай бұрын
With less horsepower but racehorses the Supra beat the others that what they had were Ponny not always higher HP and Pounds of torque influence a car, this supra power weight and ratios have shown a good car,
@willesco52119 ай бұрын
All ❤.your videos!!!!!
@nathanaelcole84669 ай бұрын
Just like Carwow it drives me crazy to hear them dictate the gear to start in. Pick the speed to roll at, get to know the car and pick the optimal gear for THAT car. They don't need to be in the same gear. Pick the setting that suits that car, not try and like for like. You could tell the CT4 BW was out of the power band and boost when in 2nd gear and 50km/h. It took forever to get to 3rd and should have been in 1st gear and would have jumped at the start of the roll.
@keithbartlett767923 күн бұрын
Blackwing stock GM calibration has babysitting. Check Tapout tuning, once the tune is straightened up these things are way quicker..
@sv523089 ай бұрын
As a Z fan, finally it won something
@robertperciballi33579 ай бұрын
Felt the same way... just put better tires & someone who can shift as well...
@sarahrivera48789 ай бұрын
Z biggest issue is traction off the line with better tyres Z will be very close to the Supra check hagerty out. The auto Z did 12.3s @ 116mph and the manual Z did 12.8s @ 112mph the auto only Supra at the time did it 12.1s @ 117mph 0.2 tenths and 1 mph difference really separate the autos from each other. As per hagerty the Z with a grippier set of tyres would have kept up with the Supra. And did I forgot to mention that the Japanese spec Z performance weighs less than the US an Canadian spec at 3403lbs. People talk about the Supras auto way faster but reality not so as proven by hagerty they are a lot closer than people think. In fact the Z with same tyres as the Supra should be the same. Now on the track is where the Supra really outshines the Z. Let’s see what the new Z nismo does when it goes on sale. I don’t know why people love to hate on the Z. We people should be thankful they made it.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@roboticvenom19359 ай бұрын
@@sarahrivera4878The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is. I agree that the Z is overhated because we need to appreciate new sports cars we get as it's a dying industry. But it's fine to admit the supra is the better, faster car because it is. Same tires on both cars the supra is faster. The Nissan Z nismo will be overpriced to shit and is therefore useless in that regatd
@robertperciballi33579 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Not Gullible at all... but I get what you're saying
@ms87429 ай бұрын
As much as I want to like the CT4 V, American Muscle in general is just slower than it should be based on HP/Torque. Same for Mustang.