2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race.

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Sam CarLegion

Sam CarLegion

9 ай бұрын

2023 Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing vs Toyota GR Supra vs Nissan Z, RWD Battle! Drag and Roll Race.
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@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Sorry guys missed this one: Nissan Z CW - 3507 lbs
@SlateBlue_VQ
@SlateBlue_VQ 9 ай бұрын
The difference in the roll race between the Z and V was a driver mod. Someone who knows how to shift vs someone who doesn’t. He said “that’s not possible. I think he jumped a little bit” . That’s called knowing how to drive 😂
@SlateBlue_VQ
@SlateBlue_VQ 9 ай бұрын
Also the black wing is gm’s top of the line v. wait for the nismo Z
@vigorosoPIMPJr
@vigorosoPIMPJr 9 ай бұрын
They should get the automatic.
@sinappanis
@sinappanis 9 ай бұрын
Regardless it shows just how much american car's are overrated whereas most of the rest of the world either accurately rates them or underrates them. Hence why the BMW, I mean Supra, is so quick.
@keanuphillip7725
@keanuphillip7725 9 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying, and the black wing was ahead of the z both times.
@joeblack7262
@joeblack7262 9 ай бұрын
@@sinappanis damn y’all love having our nuts in y’all mouths. Overrated who even rated that high. Y’all be making stuff up as y’all go. So much hate and envy til want us to do some bs
@Jr_5646
@Jr_5646 9 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z can shift
@purito84
@purito84 9 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, really well done
@garyiglesias
@garyiglesias 9 ай бұрын
yup i noticed it too . can barely tell when he shifted and the other dude you can see it clearly when he does .
@misaelc376
@misaelc376 9 ай бұрын
Fr the sam guy cant drive to save his life 😂
@shaneducholke364
@shaneducholke364 9 ай бұрын
The Z had the no lift shift so it is just moving thr stick as fast as you The Z has a no lift shift so that saves a ton of time. Not saying he isn't good, just had an advantage, just like shifting the gates with the car off in neutral, you can be super quick and smooth
@mufasalord
@mufasalord 9 ай бұрын
@@shaneducholke364 unless I’m mistaken the black wing also has no lift shift from the factory. I’d definitely say the driver in the Z was just good at rowing the gears
@godzilla7391
@godzilla7391 9 ай бұрын
Dude in Z rocking back and forth helped push his car for the win. 😅
@johnnycage5513
@johnnycage5513 9 ай бұрын
head movement gives you 20 horsepower didn't u know?
@IllicitBlackDictator
@IllicitBlackDictator 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnycage5513 😭😭😭
@greg1288
@greg1288 9 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z was on point with every shift…Sam was just a little slower Supra’s gearbox is just a little better than the other two👍👌
@tampablackwing
@tampablackwing 9 ай бұрын
The gear box is not better, the driver is. The supra is lighter however.
@Spiritcr1jsher
@Spiritcr1jsher 9 ай бұрын
The gear box is actually worse , driver mod in the Z
@Splentaur
@Splentaur 7 ай бұрын
@@tampablackwing According to pretty much every Supra vs Z comparison on YT, it is.
@EzComEzG0
@EzComEzG0 6 ай бұрын
Not even close..You can check that buy watching other vs. video's with decent drivers
@kevinshorr1226
@kevinshorr1226 25 күн бұрын
I have the 2023 ct4-v blackwing the gearbox is amazing plus you can no lift shift I don’t think you can in the other 2… like they said it came down to the drivers is all.
@ATSVRuss
@ATSVRuss 9 ай бұрын
Blackwing is faster than both cars in every aspect, goes to show how much a driver mod is needed..
@Striker50_
@Striker50_ 9 ай бұрын
For real
@nickandrew05
@nickandrew05 7 ай бұрын
U sir are 1000% right . I raced a Supra last night in my 4bw and even tho i beat him it was only about a cars length. I also have a JB4 tuner in mine
@johnnyx9659
@johnnyx9659 9 ай бұрын
Z won something? Say it ain't so. 🙂 I'm actually happy to see a win finally.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 9 ай бұрын
I had high hopes for the Z when it came out, but it loses constantly, and also doesn't get the best reviews when compared to the Supra!
@MLProductions.1
@MLProductions.1 9 ай бұрын
​@@germanengineering204all it needs is a tire mod
@shad3128
@shad3128 9 ай бұрын
​@Hellcat818 the tires kill it, otherwise still a great car. Without the sports package the open diff sucks too
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@shad3128so.. it's shite? With the sport package the price becomes the same as the supra.. where the supra is the faster better driving car.. ESPECIALLY on the track lol. Way better engine in the supra too
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@MLProductions.1no it doesn't.. the supra is just better which renders the Z pointless
@godzilla7391
@godzilla7391 9 ай бұрын
I feel like whatever car Sam is in thats the car that will lose. 😆 😅
@Striker50_
@Striker50_ 9 ай бұрын
Especially if it's a manual it's painful to watch
@xxthehuskycaboosexx
@xxthehuskycaboosexx 9 ай бұрын
Supra is gonna win, calling it now
@chrism869
@chrism869 9 ай бұрын
it did, but i would take the ct4 blackwing, better car overall
@peterbennett4124
@peterbennett4124 9 ай бұрын
​@chrism869 Better car to be in the shop constantly lol
@2012WrxSti
@2012WrxSti 9 ай бұрын
had mine for 35k miles, never seen any shops
@peterbennett4124
@peterbennett4124 9 ай бұрын
@2012WrxSti 35,000 miles that's barely broken in usually problems start at 70-80k miles.
@peterbennett4124
@peterbennett4124 9 ай бұрын
@2012WrxSti Bet you the first thing to go will be the Tranny. Don't we wish all of them will go.
@stephanemallet169
@stephanemallet169 9 ай бұрын
I'll take the cadillac, thank you!
@kirks06G35
@kirks06G35 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have an electric blue CT4 V BW everyone is surprised it's a 6 speed manual and I love it I can drive with my family and it has a good size trunk it's a great mix of luxery and performance.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Good choice!
@c.rodriguez7976
@c.rodriguez7976 9 ай бұрын
The more I see the Supra in action, the more I like it.
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын
I just can’t get over it’s use of ovals on the front - They should have done some more sharp angles instead.. wonder if any aftermarket front bumpers are out there?
@behindthebuild8016
@behindthebuild8016 9 ай бұрын
They perform well but the interior sucks
@MizzouRah78
@MizzouRah78 9 ай бұрын
​@@behindthebuild8016How so?
@behindthebuild8016
@behindthebuild8016 9 ай бұрын
Design, quality, space plus u can’t see out your door windows you just see head liner
@MizzouRah78
@MizzouRah78 9 ай бұрын
@behindthebuild8016 Be specific. Also, the height of the window has nothing to do with "the interior," and it would dramatically change the look.
@Arun999
@Arun999 9 ай бұрын
The Supra and the Z are sexy vehicles. Just wish they could be made with a targa top.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
Targa top makes it ugly and adds mega weight
@Arun999
@Arun999 9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 targas are not ugly at all what targas you know are ugly? the only one i think of that is modern is the Lambo Murci with its toupee looking top
@Tender_vigilante
@Tender_vigilante 9 ай бұрын
That shit is ugly nah
@brandonpittman5243
@brandonpittman5243 9 ай бұрын
Supra was just waking up at 90mph
@moviehaven8906
@moviehaven8906 9 ай бұрын
Great drag race as always, a rolling race between the Toyota GR supra and the Nissan Z would have added more flavour.
@nallis01
@nallis01 9 ай бұрын
S U P R A FTW!
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 9 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you brought the CT4 BW for another race! I love these videos. Keep em coming 🎉
@biggygaming
@biggygaming 3 ай бұрын
Too bad he makes the car look bad every time he drives it
@Boogieman_1989Garbage
@Boogieman_1989Garbage 3 ай бұрын
@@biggygamingit is bad 😅😅#Garbage car 🚘
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 2 ай бұрын
@@Boogieman_1989Garbage Best car in the video actually.
@nickbb1920
@nickbb1920 9 ай бұрын
After this and the M3 video, I'm convinced the BW is getting the short end of the stick, and I'll openly say I don't drive manual but I know enough and have read enough between these 2 videos to conclude that the bw driver doesn't get all of that tranny, which makes me question if no lift shift was used or not, seems like a lot of power cuts out in between shifts, after constant feedback, why not switch drivers??? I can totally see the B58 beating the bw in a quarter mile run, but there's no way you can convince me that the Z is faster then the BW from a dig, regardless I'd put big money on the bw in a top end race with out a question, top end and around track is where the BW shines
@jonmcclane7433
@jonmcclane7433 9 ай бұрын
Thanks again Sam for the great content. Cheers from Indiana.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@scottyd0530
@scottyd0530 9 ай бұрын
Every time I see a MkV Supra race, I love it even more. Those things are absurdly quick.
@SlickSniper3
@SlickSniper3 9 ай бұрын
They're fantastic on the circuit, the supra rules. I like all 3 Cars for sure. The caddy is such a good sedan.
@SchafdoggGTO
@SchafdoggGTO 8 ай бұрын
They are definitely nice BMWs for sure.
@scottyd0530
@scottyd0530 8 ай бұрын
@@SchafdoggGTO How original. I definitely haven't heard that one before.
@retrocompaq5212
@retrocompaq5212 6 ай бұрын
@@scottyd0530 toyota builds garbage and they had to pay someone else to make a decent car, still way too slow for a flagship sports car, you gotta face the thruth
@scottyd0530
@scottyd0530 6 ай бұрын
@@retrocompaq5212 Here's your truth. Do your research before you blatantly make an ass of yourself on the internet. If you hate the car, that's fine. No one is gonna care, but you're allowed your opinion. Face the truth.
@sircefiro
@sircefiro 9 ай бұрын
Good stuff Sam, you know we love manual days. I don't think the z jumped the first roll and he possibly hesitated a bit on the second to be sure, all 3 cars getting it right look a good match up, love a quick sedan.
@reynaldorivera743
@reynaldorivera743 9 ай бұрын
Sam great manual shootout .Man that Supra is quick with that B58
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Sure is
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 9 ай бұрын
getting 3.9 with the manual is crazy fast! even the Z with its auto isnt gonna get much better than the low 4's
@mattmasi303
@mattmasi303 9 ай бұрын
Always gotta love how he gets gapped in a short roll race "not far" "not by much" 😂🤦‍♂️ make that race a half mile and see the gap
@SlateBlue_VQ
@SlateBlue_VQ 9 ай бұрын
That dude is something irritating. He said “both the Z and Supra have a weight advantage I’m heavier” but fails to note the 100hp advantage 😂
@user-re8nw4ph5y
@user-re8nw4ph5y 9 ай бұрын
​@@SlateBlue_VQ😅😅😅
@tampablackwing
@tampablackwing 8 ай бұрын
​@@SlateBlue_VQcheck the dynos. They're only about 35ish whp difference, oh then make both cars autos ....
@UAE111
@UAE111 9 ай бұрын
B58 will say bye bye 😅😅😅
@bigneutron77
@bigneutron77 9 ай бұрын
Supra proving everyday that it’s the best affordable sport car out there.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
70k is a bit of a stretch for affordability but I get your point
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 9 ай бұрын
​@@SamCarLegion Let's be real we are way poorer than Americans. Supra is a normal car to them.
@brandonpittman5243
@brandonpittman5243 9 ай бұрын
@@cosmic_gate476no it isn’t I’m American and 70k is too much for me I just don’t see the worth.
@DezNutzBich
@DezNutzBich 9 ай бұрын
​​​@@cosmic_gate476let's also be honest, if you're paying 70k usd for a Supra, you're a god damn dumbass (not you but in general). Used low miled supras go for 50k-60k....
@AnthonyParrilloRI
@AnthonyParrilloRI 9 ай бұрын
​@@cosmic_gate476I'm an American and I'm being real, all these sports car are too expensive nowadays. Also I don't know how it is in canada, but the markups are real brutal down here. Hello from America!
@Bungle
@Bungle 9 ай бұрын
I have a Blackwing and they’re faster if you shift around 6,100 RPM instead of taking them up to redline. The car tells you the optimal point to shift with a little green, yellow, red animation in the tachometer if you pay attention to it. I suspect the host of these videos doesn’t know that and that’s why his car always underperforms.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@dylanantenberg5561
@dylanantenberg5561 9 ай бұрын
Agreed😭the Z sucks and the blackwing is better in every way then any of these handling wise the Supra might be decent just because of how light it is but engine in the blackwing has a lot more character I got to drive one and it was a lot of fun guy in blackwing does not know how to shift either and you can see it in the video in between them other people in dif cars know how to
@vectorcruzusa
@vectorcruzusa 9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 you really need to stop copy and pasting your comment. I've seen it at least 4 times already
@vigorosoPIMPJr
@vigorosoPIMPJr 9 ай бұрын
@@vectorcruzusaeither way he’s still right
@MrTickleBean
@MrTickleBean 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, it makes peak power at 5,750rpm no need to take it all the way up to 6,500rpm. 6.1k looks like the sweet spot
@gucciserg8093
@gucciserg8093 9 ай бұрын
Supra is a Beauty of a car that’s for damn sure!
@anthonyb2426
@anthonyb2426 9 ай бұрын
Not that it would have drastically changed the outcomes, but the no lift shift makes a distinct sound when activated. If you let off the gas just a little it won't work. The Topher does a review, check out the 15:30ish mark of his video to see what I mean Also, from a 30 roll the caddy should be in 1st gear. It can get to 50 in first, supra and Z second is best, top out under 40 in first.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@anthonyb2426
@anthonyb2426 9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 yeah to me it just highlights that all 3 of these are pretty close and it becomes a driver's race. So start in the suboptimal gear from a roll in the BW and even the Z will take you
@DizzyMan24
@DizzyMan24 9 ай бұрын
​@@roboticvenom1935You mean 12.8 at 112 for the manual and 12.3 at 116 for auto, right?
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 2 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Finally someone with a brain in this comment section
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 ай бұрын
@@DizzyMan24 car and driver tested 2023 Z at 12.7 for automatic
@HOVIK750
@HOVIK750 9 ай бұрын
Did he leave the Cadillac in rain mode?
@motormusique
@motormusique 9 ай бұрын
Would be so hard to pick between the Supra and Blackwing...they are both so amazing. Blackwing is a total rarity in this world as a manual sports sedan, whereas the Supra looks so sexy. I want both.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
I would have a Z and a Blackwing
@motormusique
@motormusique 9 ай бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Interesting. I find some reviewers prefer the Supra because it's faster and agile but some like the Z because it feels more analogue
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
@@motormusique i find the zupra too claustrophobic and I can buy an M2 used for the same money with +2 seats
@shad3128
@shad3128 9 ай бұрын
​@motormusique the supra is pretty ugly compared to both other cars. Also for the money the m2 is better looking and the performance is right there.
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 9 ай бұрын
unless you live on a racetrack i agree with Sam, you can't see a thing out of the stupid supra and having 4 doors is so much more practical. I've been in all 3 cars and own the ct4 for the same reasons. My next choice would've been the Z for the cool retro look and analog feel.
@1Springloaded
@1Springloaded 9 ай бұрын
So dam entertaining. 5:30am on a Sunday morning.i got one eye open watching drag races. Still taking BW. These days I'm built a little more for comfort than speed.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Right on!
@marcusturner5291
@marcusturner5291 9 ай бұрын
Nice video keep up the good work SAM
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marklinley815
@marklinley815 9 ай бұрын
B58 again for the win in my book. Hands down. MKV all day for me.
@avirgilio71
@avirgilio71 9 ай бұрын
No argument here
@backtoshallabal6662
@backtoshallabal6662 9 ай бұрын
Sam curious on your opinion but who would win in a Drag and Roll a 2023 Stock GLI or a 2023 Stock 330i?
@wackit6756
@wackit6756 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like the Supra driver was shifting too soon, didn’t sound close to redline in each gear. What are your requirements for these races in terms of how high to rev? Is it up to each driver?
@mattmasi303
@mattmasi303 9 ай бұрын
Yea I noticed that to , they need a camera pointed at the gauges in the races
@retsehcnamdetinu1672
@retsehcnamdetinu1672 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, premature shifting all way thru
@purito84
@purito84 9 ай бұрын
I would love to be able to grab that same colored GR Supra with the stick shift but black interior. Man it looks great
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
Why would you want a black interior.. that gets more hot.. more claustrophobic feeling and FAR more boring and cheaper looking. Absolutely mindless, you get tired of it too. A red or nice brown interior? Nope
@jrod6236
@jrod6236 9 ай бұрын
You should be using the no lift shifting feature in the Cadillac.
@FedeJ2023
@FedeJ2023 8 ай бұрын
Greetings from Argentina we love your channel ✌️🇦🇷
@1laimmiss
@1laimmiss 9 ай бұрын
Supra the king
@nickdaplummaman
@nickdaplummaman 9 ай бұрын
Need to see that caddy with a driver that knows how to drive. How does the car have flatfoot shifting and you’re not using it….That Z driver has crazy driver mod
@user-lh6fg4fs6y
@user-lh6fg4fs6y 9 ай бұрын
everything seems to be not bad with the caddy - moderate weight, sufficient working volume, solid declared power and torque. But he doesn’t go, dog, he doesn’t go, even if you crack!
@pinkipipe
@pinkipipe 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen yet the race and already know who will 🏆
@elstaywinning5735
@elstaywinning5735 9 ай бұрын
Can you get a audi S6 up here? Would like to how is speed and power matches up against other cars
@dennistate9951
@dennistate9951 8 ай бұрын
Great video 🤙🤙
@racer247
@racer247 9 ай бұрын
Manual cars make the driver way more important in the outcome of races. So the outcome could be closer than expected, but on paper the Supra should win pretty easily 🤔
@hau5muzeek
@hau5muzeek 9 ай бұрын
manual transmissions also make said cars slower than theyd be if equipped with an auto trans like the ZF8. the biggest gripe people had with the traditional sludhboxes was that it delivered a super delayed response to driver input and could never find the right gear quickly enough. that isnt the case anymore
@racer247
@racer247 9 ай бұрын
@hau5muzeek Facts, but these purest keep the " so much more fun to drive " nonsense up. When just about every exotic car over 200K doesn't even have a manual option besides the GT3.
@hau5muzeek
@hau5muzeek 9 ай бұрын
@@racer247 hahahahaha, true as fuck. i just don’t understand why people cant just spec it with what kind of trans theyd prefer (pros/cons to both) and move past it, its like some shitty vibe that they refuse to let die, personally i like to have FUN when im out there and couldnt give a rats ass about a fews clowns and their petty dick measuring contests
@sharodbell
@sharodbell 9 ай бұрын
That’s because it is more fun. What the hell are you on about? 😒
@01gtbdaily30
@01gtbdaily30 9 ай бұрын
@@racer247incorrect , most super cars and hyper cars have a manual transmission but it’s no longer a lazy stick and clutch . Now they have instant gear changes with paddles. You can still do all of the things the “save the manuals” guys scream about but now you can keep both hands on the wheel and no lift shift .
@cavaseno
@cavaseno 9 ай бұрын
B58!
@lawrencehayden753
@lawrencehayden753 9 ай бұрын
The Supra makes more hp than what is listed
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover 9 ай бұрын
Typical BMW
@benlecluyse
@benlecluyse 9 ай бұрын
Insane cars !! ❤❤
@halow4
@halow4 9 ай бұрын
I think the CT4 did ok considering its hundreds of pounds heavier then both cars but I think between the supra being underrated by at least 40hp and those cars being 2 door cs the caddy a 4door it was just a lil too much for it. A better matchup would be the Stinger GT vs CT4v vs Dodge charger 392
@brolyvi1211
@brolyvi1211 9 ай бұрын
All said cars are auto against the ct4. Manual vs manual
@mattmasi303
@mattmasi303 9 ай бұрын
It's the same weight and same power as a base M3 , and I have a feeling it would get gapped by the M3
@drivescene6747
@drivescene6747 9 ай бұрын
@@mattmasi303it would absolutely get gapped by an M3, badly
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@drivescene6747M3 does cost more and has inferior driving dynamics.
@ericcleland817
@ericcleland817 9 ай бұрын
The Supra's shifting seems in my opinion to be just a small bit quicker than the Cadillacs. Im not saying it was the driver, but watching the drag races, the cadallic would lose incrimental amounts of distance on the Supra during the shifting, and only while shifting. I would enjoy seeing these vehicles drag race again, but next time with different transmissions. I think that is only fair to compare on that level as well because of how close the vehicles are in both horse power, as well as weight. Yes the Supra does have the advantage in curb weight, but I dont think that a few hundred pounds would decide the winner of the drag races. I enjoyed this video none the less, and look forward to seeing more videos like this.
@DM72513
@DM72513 9 ай бұрын
Dude in the Z was giving the Blackwing like half a car length before each roll race.
@chilli1695
@chilli1695 2 ай бұрын
those were defiantly driver diff. races I'm afraid. No offense to sam.... but the guy cant drive 😅 The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH..
@nickbb1920
@nickbb1920 9 ай бұрын
It would also be real interesting to see the same cars but with the automatic transmissions, seems like that would level the playing field as you'll leave it to the cars to do the talking instead of the drivers
@setsunaes
@setsunaes 9 ай бұрын
Supra: "400 what? 472 who? How cute both of you guys."
@CJmk3supra
@CJmk3supra Ай бұрын
🌽
@mynock250
@mynock250 9 ай бұрын
Great vid, I think thats the first race Ive ever seen the Z win.
@deancm3759
@deancm3759 9 ай бұрын
Very close with the Z on the second roll race because you started out half a car length ahead of him.
@jeremycrookshanks8420
@jeremycrookshanks8420 9 ай бұрын
Great to see these cars race caddy for the win
@slash11lipo
@slash11lipo 9 ай бұрын
Slower shifting was the 4BW problem.
@Driver.Diaries
@Driver.Diaries 9 ай бұрын
nice runs.... ct4v vs charger 392 would be a good one!
@saved1777
@saved1777 9 ай бұрын
The caddy is more practical having rear seats nd it has great power impressive 👏
@20VGT
@20VGT 9 ай бұрын
USA : 472 HP you get 378 HP Japan : 400 HP you get 440HP
@frankcastle1578
@frankcastle1578 9 ай бұрын
Germany 389 you get 449
@bobstarr
@bobstarr 9 ай бұрын
Japan you get what they say, mostly, but the germans say what you get for wheel hp.
@2seep
@2seep 9 ай бұрын
@@bobstarrfor Japan you don’t get what they say it’s a bit understated. The Nissan z has 400hp but in reality it has 372whp which equates to 437bhp
@ph00ny1
@ph00ny1 9 ай бұрын
Not even remotely true. Even the automatic CT4-V BW are hitting 420s at the wheel on a dyno. It looks like this needs a proper driver mod to really ring it out considering C&D hit 0-60 in 4 flat in their manual ct4-v BW review
@aireskylinetm8480
@aireskylinetm8480 9 ай бұрын
@@frankcastle1578Koreans: u get 365hp u get 450hp
@memopadilla5931
@memopadilla5931 9 ай бұрын
Sam taking couple seconds on each shift .. 😂 🤣
@misbahagha1573
@misbahagha1573 9 ай бұрын
Sam. Announce verbally announce the roll start br 👍🏼
@Donpepee
@Donpepee 4 ай бұрын
Shout out to my boy with the 400z representing Guyana 🇬🇾 i see the glove by the rear mirror
@lucienpetrus3851
@lucienpetrus3851 9 ай бұрын
Now folks again that's a Supra watch and learn nuff said Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️
@HOVIK750
@HOVIK750 9 ай бұрын
I definitely want to see more of the cadillac.. that cuts off power.. am i wrong?
@TheImbord212
@TheImbord212 9 ай бұрын
Thought the BW had no lift shift on all 6 speeds?
@davidholmes1771
@davidholmes1771 9 ай бұрын
Great races! Cant front on that.
@mohalesydneylebea9388
@mohalesydneylebea9388 9 ай бұрын
B58 of the Supra BMW M340i should easily get a W
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 9 ай бұрын
Huhhh ? Not even the same B58 lol
@carguy...
@carguy... 9 ай бұрын
​@@jaimatic23yes it is
@jaimatic23
@jaimatic23 9 ай бұрын
@@carguy... the b58 in the supra is not in any other bmw vehicle, the B58B30C & B58B3001 are r&d & tuned motors and transmission by gazoo racing team
@carguy...
@carguy... 9 ай бұрын
@@jaimatic23 it is almost exactly the same??? Same power and tq......I should know!!
@thebigsolarz4014
@thebigsolarz4014 9 ай бұрын
Hi Sam I don't know if you'll ever see this comment but if you do can you do the Elantra n vs the trd ?
@airjase3691
@airjase3691 9 ай бұрын
I love these introductions
@coyotee_s1973
@coyotee_s1973 9 ай бұрын
That blackwing is a legend lol, it made in onto sam page and throttle house
@mehrdadmehrsam3643
@mehrdadmehrsam3643 9 ай бұрын
Very good race tank you🎉 but must try to better change shift with cadi ,lose many power beetween change gear .❤❤
@85CEKR
@85CEKR 9 ай бұрын
Something happened with the z vs the caddy drag race, near the beginning the caddy all of the sudden jumps more than a car length ahead, I'm suprised they didn't redo that race
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@ralphsmallblock4367
@ralphsmallblock4367 9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Sorry but not a fair comparison especially to a sports car vs a sedan
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 9 ай бұрын
This is going to be interesting IF all are manual. Going to be close between CT4 & Supra.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 9 ай бұрын
Z turned out to be faster than the blackwing even with those trash bridgestone tires lol
@mm8436
@mm8436 9 ай бұрын
I honestly want to see the Z vs Supra on the same tires
@AlienCreatureThing
@AlienCreatureThing 9 ай бұрын
@@mm8436the Supra gaps the Z almost every time
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 9 ай бұрын
@@mm8436 Watch Savagegeese video he did a comparison with same tires. Supra still wins due to lower weight, better suspension and a bit more torque. Not by a huge amount but a clear win forsure.
@cosmic_gate476
@cosmic_gate476 9 ай бұрын
@@AlienCreatureThing You can tell who's a teenager when they use the word "gap" unironically 😆
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 9 ай бұрын
If all 3 are stock and all 3 are manual then the Supra should win. If any one of them are automatic and the others are manual then the automatic should win. Should be a really interesting race no matter what.
@robbypitas620
@robbypitas620 Ай бұрын
Not on paper no, but Toyota and BMW are lying about the amount of power the supra makes to the crank. It makes that to the wheels
@sneekyturbo_AMG
@sneekyturbo_AMG 9 ай бұрын
Great race
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 8 ай бұрын
The Z. Muffler sounds like my WEED EATER 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@avirgilio71
@avirgilio71 9 ай бұрын
M340i is a much better comparison to the BW Caddy IMO
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 9 ай бұрын
Yes auto m340i xdrive vs bw ct4 manual. Do you guys pull these ideas from your posterior? 😂
@latino914
@latino914 9 ай бұрын
Two car icons and a malibu 😮
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@brandonpittman5243
@brandonpittman5243 9 ай бұрын
They better not say anything about the tires on the z . I’m sick of hearing how bad the tires are
@DezNutzBich
@DezNutzBich 9 ай бұрын
A-facking-men!!
@diegomjangos4904
@diegomjangos4904 9 ай бұрын
Sam has to learn to flat foot shift. That’s the reason the Z pulled so hard between shifts. But yeah good races
@ZXRSixSix-Z
@ZXRSixSix-Z 9 ай бұрын
You should start with the drag, then a roll race. How much does the Z weight?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
You start with rolls then drags so the tires warm up better. You need more grip on a drag than roll
@ZXRSixSix-Z
@ZXRSixSix-Z 9 ай бұрын
@SamCarLegion editing. I get that. Do a roll first, but edit it to come up second.
@eddieescobar4722
@eddieescobar4722 5 ай бұрын
These cars are sick all of them ill drive anyone ofthese badass rides ❤💯💪👍
@joshuapark5466
@joshuapark5466 9 ай бұрын
I don’t get how the ctv4 is losing vs these cars with like 70 more hp? Is it because of weight difference? Can someone explain.
@nickbb1920
@nickbb1920 9 ай бұрын
The B58s are no joke (Supra engine) and they're under rated from their true hp numbers, they actually make over 380 whp, which is more then the advertised 380 crank hp, and at 500 less lbs it should do what it did from the dig, but the V losing to the Z is just living proof that its the driver, and I don't think the V driver was utilizing the no lift shift, which results in the V losing boost and power in between shifts, it's actually quite visually noticeable from the out side of car camera view, I'd be willing to put good money on the V in every race from a 50-60 mph roll, assuming the driver is using no lift shift or better yet, the 10 speed
@cavaseno
@cavaseno 9 ай бұрын
The Supra is such a good car
@mareo187
@mareo187 9 ай бұрын
Let me guess the Blackwing is gonna be 2nd or possibly be a close 2nd, and the supra is gonna be 1st. The Z however based on reviews and the speed of the car it's possibly gonna be placed in 3rd.
@mattmasi303
@mattmasi303 9 ай бұрын
Z is faster than the blackwing
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@mattmasi303The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is. The Z is not faster then the Blackwing. And that's a fact. It's close though
@q6_zilla
@q6_zilla 9 ай бұрын
Z and Supra would be an awesome roll race
@ZillaFullBoost
@ZillaFullBoost 9 ай бұрын
Would have been a drivers race.
@SSH939
@SSH939 9 ай бұрын
It's been done and Supra won on all accounts
@q6_zilla
@q6_zilla 9 ай бұрын
@@SSH939 every real world encounter would be different. Ive seen the Z win before when it was manual vs manual. Basically drivers race.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@q6_zillathe Z winning is a lot more rare than the supra winning.. don't cope! Supra is faster, and that's an objective fact. Now does that mean if you take a slow shifter in the supra and race him against the stig in the Z he'll win? No of course not
@NBC_NCO
@NBC_NCO 8 ай бұрын
Aerodynamics came into play. But in all, a very fair race.
@pcosta1385
@pcosta1385 9 ай бұрын
Sam you have some of the best content on here. Love these super practical videos with attainable performance cars. Keep it coming!
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@muhammedbappa7560
@muhammedbappa7560 9 ай бұрын
Please sir kindly give us nsx vs supra
@crxtodd16
@crxtodd16 9 ай бұрын
Huh. Interesting. After seeing the results I initially thought that GM must be overrating their HP numbers - but I looked up some dyno sheets on the CT4-V Blackwing and it's pretty consistently putting out more than 400whp. I suppose it's just not able to really put all its power to the ground, thus getting beat by other cars that put out less power...? Thanks for the race!!
@nvrdwn3140
@nvrdwn3140 9 ай бұрын
It weighs a good amount more though
@crxtodd16
@crxtodd16 9 ай бұрын
@@nvrdwn3140 That's a good point.
@GeronimoBiggles
@GeronimoBiggles 9 ай бұрын
yes at least 300 lbs more than the other two.. but i own the ct4 BW and love it it's the best car out of the bunch to live with day to day and good visibility unlike the supra which you can barely see out of.
@ericinfante1885
@ericinfante1885 9 ай бұрын
Besides weight, at least with the supra, it's been known to have more power than rated for both 2 port 2020 models and even more for the 6 port models on dynos. About 380s whp for 2020 and 400whp for the 6 ports
@ericinfante1885
@ericinfante1885 9 ай бұрын
​@GeronimoBiggles dang bro nonway the supra got poor visibility? Ur killing me man lol. I always love 4 door sports cars, I love the sleeper vibe and practicality of them. My top 3 were always the CTS-V, Chevy ss, and Lexus ISF. Never wanted coupes but only 3 coupes really call my name Imani that's the corvette C7 ZR1, Chevy camaro ZL1, and the supra. I hate coupes other than those. Supra out of them all really is my #1 for money to performance and looks. I wish they make a 4 door version in a lexus suit because I gave up on the isf coming back but also the older isf are insanely pricey
@briansimpson5664
@briansimpson5664 9 ай бұрын
The Supra all day every day... Each Time the guy let up at the end. He was no where near the redline
@prettiboiCoBy60
@prettiboiCoBy60 8 ай бұрын
CT4 Black Wing needs a driver mod. Slow shifts and not shifting at consistent shift points.
@michaelgilmore341
@michaelgilmore341 9 ай бұрын
Not hearing the BW in launch mode. No revs before the launch. Comes in the manual and auto.
@JORGECASTRO-pb9mw
@JORGECASTRO-pb9mw 9 ай бұрын
With less horsepower but racehorses the Supra beat the others that what they had were Ponny not always higher HP and Pounds of torque influence a car, this supra power weight and ratios have shown a good car,
@willesco5211
@willesco5211 9 ай бұрын
All ❤.your videos!!!!!
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 9 ай бұрын
Just like Carwow it drives me crazy to hear them dictate the gear to start in. Pick the speed to roll at, get to know the car and pick the optimal gear for THAT car. They don't need to be in the same gear. Pick the setting that suits that car, not try and like for like. You could tell the CT4 BW was out of the power band and boost when in 2nd gear and 50km/h. It took forever to get to 3rd and should have been in 1st gear and would have jumped at the start of the roll.
@keithbartlett7679
@keithbartlett7679 23 күн бұрын
Blackwing stock GM calibration has babysitting. Check Tapout tuning, once the tune is straightened up these things are way quicker..
@sv52308
@sv52308 9 ай бұрын
As a Z fan, finally it won something
@robertperciballi3357
@robertperciballi3357 9 ай бұрын
Felt the same way... just put better tires & someone who can shift as well...
@sarahrivera4878
@sarahrivera4878 9 ай бұрын
Z biggest issue is traction off the line with better tyres Z will be very close to the Supra check hagerty out. The auto Z did 12.3s @ 116mph and the manual Z did 12.8s @ 112mph the auto only Supra at the time did it 12.1s @ 117mph 0.2 tenths and 1 mph difference really separate the autos from each other. As per hagerty the Z with a grippier set of tyres would have kept up with the Supra. And did I forgot to mention that the Japanese spec Z performance weighs less than the US an Canadian spec at 3403lbs. People talk about the Supras auto way faster but reality not so as proven by hagerty they are a lot closer than people think. In fact the Z with same tyres as the Supra should be the same. Now on the track is where the Supra really outshines the Z. Let’s see what the new Z nismo does when it goes on sale. I don’t know why people love to hate on the Z. We people should be thankful they made it.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 9 ай бұрын
​@@sarahrivera4878The CT4 V Blackwing quarter mile as tested by car and driver was 12.6s at 114 MPH, the Nissan Z as tested by C&D was 12.9s and motor trend also got 12.9s at 108 MPH.. The CT4 V Blackwing is faster as tested by any of the magazines and any journalist. They'll also tell you it pulls harder.. Don't let idiots fool you. The amount of people that believe the Nissan Z is faster then the Blackwing(when it's OBJECTIVELY slower, slower on a race course too btw LOL) is just pathetic. Goes to show how gullible the average person is. I agree that the Z is overhated because we need to appreciate new sports cars we get as it's a dying industry. But it's fine to admit the supra is the better, faster car because it is. Same tires on both cars the supra is faster. The Nissan Z nismo will be overpriced to shit and is therefore useless in that regatd
@robertperciballi3357
@robertperciballi3357 9 ай бұрын
@@roboticvenom1935 Not Gullible at all... but I get what you're saying
@ms8742
@ms8742 9 ай бұрын
As much as I want to like the CT4 V, American Muscle in general is just slower than it should be based on HP/Torque. Same for Mustang.
@ATSVRuss
@ATSVRuss 9 ай бұрын
No, other brands just under rate their cars
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