Same Name, Different Game: Super Double Dragon (Return of Double Dragon) US vs. Japan

The Super Summer continues on as I look at the fourth and, arguably, best entry in the Double Dragon series: Super Double Dragon! How does it compare to the Japanese version? Tune in to find out!
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[@sirkeithv1112]

This man explained Super Double Dragon better then any other gamers on here. Some took a crap on the series about it being too slow which their full of it. Underrated game though.

[@SNARC15]

I originally put Super Double Dragon on my hacked SNES Classic, but after seeing this episode, I switched it over to Return of Double Dragon. Haven't looked back ever since. Thanks for doing this.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Glad to have helped!

[@mauherrera8939]

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[@juliusbelmont350]

If you're into patching to enhance games, try Kencho's Hack for Return of Double Dragon!

[@phantomcorps3373]

I only play Return of Double Dragon. Got a copy from Japan. It's still a fun game. I hate how this one was forgotten over the years. It's underrated.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

YES. So underrated! One of my legit favorite brawlers of the era, and maybe my favorite of the series, alongside DD Advance.

[@ProjectGenesisMusic]

The best beat em up and one of my favorite SNES games. Recently played Return of Double Dragon over the holidays and what a feeling to have one of your favorites for years become enhanced! I did not know you could send back the knife that is bad ass! I don't understand how no beat em up has had as many moves or technicality that this combat system has since it's release.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm not sure about no beat-'em-up, but certainly not many have aspired to a moveset this varied. Thanks for watching!

[@trooper427ss]

Now you can buy return of double dragon on SNES. Buy it from Amazon. It will be released on 8/2018. Madlittlepixels talked about it.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, I saw that! Pretty cool it's finally getting a US release.

[@MakotoTsuguri]

@@SameNameDifferentGame Is this the one by Retroism? I heard about it and wanted to get it, but I've heard some very bad things about it. The cartridge is not compatible with the actual SNES, and I heard the quality is rather cheap.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@MakotoTsuguri Yeah, that's the one. I've also heard not great things about it.

[@corvettez06usa]

The Double Dragon theme from this game is so awesome. What you have playing during the credits. The NES intro is a very close second, but the instrumentation they used for the SNES rendition sounds appropriate for a legend of video gaming's toughest twin brothers.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's a jam.

[@teddym2808]

You rock.. found this from your posts at snesdrunk. THANK YOU for the video. What a great game and i've never played the Japanese version. Criminally underrate beat em up in any case.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you! Glad you dig it!

[@xChris_Kentx]

This was really nice and laid back. I'm subscribing because I love the detail you put into this and explanation.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@summersonic1846]

The Double Dragon theme really takes me back. I wasn't aware of the Super Famicom version. I've had the US version for years and still love it. Thanks for making another Double Dragon episode!!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks for watching! I love the theme as well!

[@mannymangoat2897]

I love your double dragon videos. I have DD fan. this is by far my favorite video you have ever done. keep up the good work.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you so much. That means a lot to me!

[@JrodXX]

So glad to see another one of these. As a kid I always wanted to sit down and compare different versions of games from different consoles.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

There's one every month! I'll keep makin' 'em as long as you keep watchin' 'em!

[@sudicalwig]

Probably my favourite beat em up game. Love the graphics, music and game mechanics. Revisited it yesterday on my Super famicom and beat it.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's super good! Too bad the recent re-release is junk.

[@watts4200]

Awesome review!!! Loved this game back in the day...

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's a great game!

[@trademarktaz]

This was the first video game I ever played after I got a SNES as a kid. It really left a huge influence on me.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's a good one! If you're super familiar with the US version, I really recommend checking out the JPN version.

[@polaropposites96]

Great job. This perfectly answered my question of "what's the difference?"

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@jadimich]

Wow, great side-by-side comparison. I didn't know Return of Double Dragon was also completely in English. That's brilliant! I'm going to have to track it down. I will probably never "return" to Super Double Dragon (pun intended), seeing as Return is the same underlying game, just enhanced and more feature-complete. Super Double Dragon is already my 2nd favorite Beat 'Em Up on the SNES after TMNT IV, so it'll be great to finally play the superior version. Thanks a bunch!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Enjoy!

[@rockmanx6857]

First time subscriber here & enjoyed every single minute of your video,guy 😎👍

[@igotkings]

I love this game. I am glad I found your review of it. Great video!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm glad you found it, too! Thanks for watching!

[@shadowyashatoura]

That music at intro of Super Double Dragon..I love it!!!!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The whole series is rife with great tunes!

[@antione4543]

this game defined my childhood. It was very technical and slow but there was something super special about the gameplay and soundtrack

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I love it!

[@antoniop1495]

@@SameNameDifferentGame does “super special” mean having to use the risk-free hurricane kick? I agree with the soundtrack though.

[@BITPLAKIS]

Nice work, very informative! Thankyou.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you for watching!

[@implantgames]

Brilliant as always! Great analysis.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks, Kris!

[@TonyHStanley]

12:48: in addition to Williams & Roper being named after characters from Enter The Dragon, Billy Lee is named after Bruce Lee, his 2nd name being Lee but also his 1st name being Billy as in Billy Lo, Bruce's Character in Game Of Death, Linda is named after Bruce's wife Linda, and Bolo from Double Dragon 2 (mistakenly referred to as Abobo) is of course based on Bolo Yeung from Enter The Dragon.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yep, there's a ton of Bruce Lee references throughout these games! There's also an "O'Hara" in DD2, a reference to Bob Wall's character in Enter the Dragon.

[@Jon-Mark_W]

Wow awesome differences. Thanks for the video man.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks for watching!

[@Brosephus263]

There was supposed to be alot more to this game, but the US version was rushed for Christmas. It was supposed to have a full story with cutscenes, more music, and even a 2nd form to the final boss, Duke. Some kind of shadow version. Also, was supposed to have an ending. Some of the sprites are on the rom, but just were never used. Google return of double dragon - the true story

[@SylphidUndine]

omg this answers my question why was the music different between the two versions! awesome video! deserves more views :O

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Glad you got something out of it! And thanks for the kind words!

[@garyhall331]

well damn i thought 3 had jumped the shark so i skipped this completely. gotta check this out now. ty for all the hours of entertainment you just provided me with along with the video

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

3 is pretty weak, but Super DD is 100% worth playing. And you're welcome!

[@renzokukenleneyoyo522]

This is my fav even above DD Neon... the blocking mechanic was amazing... and the track for lvl 1 gets me so pumped even to this day... dunno why some versions of this game seem to have a different soundtrack for lvl 1

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The Japanese and US versions use different tracks for different stages. But yeah, I love this game. Maybe only second in the series to DD Advance for me.

[@NefariousWes]

Nice Tiger Mask reference! Boy, am I glad I have the Japanese version. My friend has the US one, and now I wanna play it and experience the numerous differences myself. I can't believe that Super DD lacks music tracks, difficulty settings, isn't as long, etc., and still costs more than the SFC version! Excellent comparison! I also like to make comparison videos, so I was all over this one--especially since Double Dragon is one of my all-time favorite series, and like you, I'm also a huge Technos fan. A couple of months ago I compared Renegade with Nekketsu Koha Kunio-kun. One of my all-time favorite beat-em-ups!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks for watching!

[@BruceLeeroyX]

Duke is the sub boss in the double dragon fighting game on neogeo.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Which is so weird! But also pretty cool.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

@@SameNameDifferentGame And the end boss of that fighting game is Koga Shuko. He was a character created only for the movie version of Double Dragon (don't watch it), now he's a Canon Immigrant.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@kendonl.taylor5111 You are far, far too late to warn me off of watching that movie! 😂 But I did know that the T-1000 was the final boss in that game.

[@chappydeb]

Awesome information. Thanks for posting. I have subscribed.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Rad! Glad you liked it! Hope you dig the rest!

[@LeftoverCultureReview]

"no pun intended" yeah right.. *eye-roll*. Loved the episode man, learnt a lot. You certainly do your homework :P

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Wow, man. Thanks so much for watching. Glad you dug it!

[@IgoByaGo]

I don't think I have ever played this game. The music sounds dope.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The music is very solid. I say check the game out, if you get a chance!

[@ThunderFist1978]

I’m sure Billy and Jimmy are still considered to be twins, the manual just didn’t say so. However, as we know, twins are never born at the exact same time, and this game answers the question of which twins was born first, and it turns out it is Jimmy. Jimmy’s position as the firstborn has continues to remain canon even when the brothers are still referred to as twins.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The US manual specifically says of Jimmy "he is Billy's older brother." Obviously, one twin has to be born first, but none of the twins I've ever known have referred to each other as "older" or "younger." They say "my twin brother" or "my twin" or whatever. "he is Billy's older brother" implies they aren't twins in this game, which is pretty clearly non-canon in numerous other ways, besides.

[@axcelrave154]

..return of double dragon will get a US SNES release soon! just found out this channel,you got a new fan! subbed!!

[@djpalos81]

Axcel RaVe just pre order mine about 10 minutes ago at Amazon . Lol

[@axcelrave154]

..wow awesome! me,i'm still in the hunt for the og sfc version.

[@djpalos81]

Axcel RaVe why not wait for the new release isn't it suppose to be the same as the famicom version but on the north American console tho?

[@axcelrave154]

old school gamer ..it just happen that i'm in Japan right now,might as well hunt for a copy

[@DarkCode]

Thanks! I'm getting the rom for my psp go got both versions! You have earned the all powerful Subscribe.

[@CanalDoHolly]

I have been watching your content. I like it.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm glad you like it!

[@eyeh8phonies361]

I loved Super Double Dragon then and now it's one of the few games that withstood the test of time with me. However I never heard of Return of Double Dragon and I'm doing myself a disservice by not playing it so I'm going to have to find it. What I found most enjoyable about Super Double Dragon is that it's the first beat em up I've played that had a defense/block mechanic implemented.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You really should check out Return. It's even better than the US version.

[@GregoryAllisonMelton]

Thank you, you kinda helped me see which version I think is better because I recently got Super and Advance for the switch for my dad for Father’s Day, so now we have all double dragon games that are on the switch, so now when we play if it gives us the option between us and Japan we now which one we would want to pick

[@cyberpunknut1099]

Cool. Didn't know that bit of Enter the Dragon trivia. Never did beat this game on the one time I rented it.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's true. Also, PROTIP on beating this game: when you have one continue left, hit start on both controllers simultaneously. Both players will get the last continue and a new stock of them will appear.

[@MLaker221]

I love a full meal episode like this. 'Same name...' is a show that I call out to my friends when i tell them what I watch. you don't fill it with gimmicks and 'akward' style jokes. you found your own little corner, your own little chair, where you can be whoever you want to beeee. lol, Cinderella reference just popped out there. lol! caught up on this one. I have DD/Battletoads on Genesis, and recently I've seen it actually looks better on SNES, but bc of childhood attachment I never tried to get the SNES one. that's where your channel comes in ;) cheers

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate that you dig it. That's exactly what I wanted the show to be. I respect the hell out of James Rolfe (for example), but I'm not trying to be him.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

Mariam being a police officer was used for animated series.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Man, that cartoon sucked.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

@@SameNameDifferentGame Ok.

[@quintonhill8733]

Double dragon 2 the revenge NES was the best in the series.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I like the Japanese version of Super Double Dragon a bit more, but I also love NES Revenge.

[@steves3649]

Hellnyes

[@pferreira1983]

Good video. Coincidently I saw the My Life For Gaming video they did on this game recently. One thing you left out which they mentioned is that the frame rate in the US version is poor compared to the Japanese version. Definitely needed more time in development before the US got it.

[@Trialwolf]

Really in depth video, really enjoyed it. Don't know if I requested it before but any plans on doing a video on Demolition Man? (SNES/GEN/SEGA CD/3DO)

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

There are definitely non-specific plans to get to Demolition Man (and Judge Dredd) at some point!

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

DD Advance is the best in the series. This one plays way too slow.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I also like DDA a lot!

[@SNARC15]

Super felt slow to me too but for some reason Return seemed to be a little faster.

[@arkanjoteixeira]

But Double Dragon has always been slow It's more of a methodical approach to the beat'em up genre. And that's what's so great about. If you want a fast paced beat'em up, go play FF or SoR instead.

[@BRUHBRUH-ov9fq]

@@arkanjoteixeira SoR and FF are slow too especially with max with SoR 2

[@syminite1]

Double dragon has always been a slower game, you must be young.

[@AtticusStount]

I switched to Return of DD soon after hearing it was the "only way to experience Super DD". The evasion moves are actually quite true to real martial arts techniques. If there are masochists out there, play the Genesis Arcade Double Dragon. It is faster than the original. Completely brutal, but not as good a game as Return. The elevator bad guys are a PAIN IN THE ASS in the US version. RE: Roper, his portrait is on the Wanted poster in the original, and he´s described in the manual.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Genesis DD is not a great port, but it's better than Genesis DD2 (which I did a video on, it's... whew. Rough.)

[@squidperfume]

I liked this video,as I generally like your videos. I think you should do an episode of Double Dragon 3, since you've already done parts 1 and 2. Perhaps compare the NES version of DD3 to the Genesis version. Maybe even talk about Double Dragon V.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm glad you liked it! Double Dragon III is DEFINITELY on the list for a future episode!

[@mycabbages3538]

The openbor fan game the legend of the double dragon is a masterpiece that you should play. It’s like super double dragon with killer instinct combos.

[@joegoesretro]

I've never played either of these, but I love beat 'em ups. Needless to say, based on this video I just went on eBay and bought a copy of Return.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

YES. Mission accomplished!

[@aiejag]

Great video ! What are some other good SNES beat em up games? I tried the final fight ones I was not a fan.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Turtles in Time is fantastic, and if you're into importing, I talked about one of the Kunio brawlers for the Super Famicom here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5Czg5-fgdh1gJo

[@Sinn0100]

I just bought a game for the Switch you might want to check out- The Friends of Ringo Ishikawa. It is a beat em' up that takes after River City Ransom. It is a very deep and complex game with an excellent story that actually took me by surprise. I expected the usual, my girlfriend has been kidnapped for...reasons. The writing us top notch aside from a few spelling errors and I suspect regional difficulties. I love the main protagonist in the game. He exists not to help people, do good in the world, feed the poor, or help the impoverished...he just wants to be a Yakuza. This coming of age story is a timeless classic with a huge helping of- RPG+Pugilism=Amazing! Seriously check it out.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, I've heard about that game. It's like an existential take on Kunio games, from what I hear. I'll have to check it out.

[@the_platinum_wizard867]

i hope to see grow, you and the ljn defender, you two are fucking awesome keep up the excellent work ;-^)

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks a lot! I assume you've already seen the episode of Same Name, Different Game he was in? If not, it's the WWF Superstars one!

[@yorkshirepud6676]

Very interesting l will get both!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Not a bad move!

[@CuppaKofe]

Since this went up, the price of the Snes version has gone up quite a bit, while the loose super famicom version has stayed at a lower price. I actually got my loose copy for around $25 CAD few years ago, and I'm seeing copies going for around the 25-30ish price range right now. Ebay is also flooded with bootleg copies of Super too, so you're better off just getting Return at this point, if this video wasn't enough to convince you :P

[@DaedalosC9]

Weird, Duke's Lair theme doesnt play in Return of Double Dragon

[@ramonantoniodejuanbennett6239]

Where can I find the CD soundtrack of this game?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Unsure, but it's probably out there somewhere.

[@OmegaZX-kd8sm]

I used to play the famicon version with my Mom

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Your mom is pretty cool, apparently.

[@Liquidcadmus]

Very interesting! I didn't know the Japanese version was different (better) too bad we got the lesser version in the west.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, it's kind of a bummer. But fortunately, the Japanese one isn't that hard to come by.

[@MikeThePsykat]

So, I just found this video recently, even though it's 4 years old now. Firstly, I just want to say that just because one of the Lee brothers is called the older or oldest doesn't mean they're not still twins. In the case of twins, the older or oldest is the one that came out first, basically, the older one would be only seconds to minutes older, but would still be "the oldest". Not saying that's what they did here, but rather, I'm just pointing out that saying "Jimmy is now the oldest brother" isn't really prof of them not being twins anymore. Also, I've seen people talk about the game speed in these comments. YES, the game IS slow, but that's by design. It's not because of lag or unresponsive controls, but rather, it's more like the oldschool Castlevanias. All of your moves happen the SECOND you press the button, but, like the whip from Castlevania, they all have small amounts of windup animations that must be accounted for. This runs counter to how most games in this genre are played, thus I think it throws people off and many are left without the ability to truly articulate why the gam feels off other then just saying it's slow, and in their minds, slow must equal bad. But again, the game was very much built around this. I imagine the defensive moves would be MUCH harder to pull off at higher speeds for the average player. Sure, they're faster paced modern games that have defensive moves too, like the 3D Ninja Gaiden games, or using Royal Guard in the DMC games. However, even in those games, you have visual cues to know when to block, and are given time to react. Given the nature of sprite animation though, without those "windup" frames, which the enemies also suffer from, you'd have almost no warning to know when to time your blocks. There's a rom hack that let's you just hold the block button, but think that takes away from the skill that is learning how to block properly in this game. I will say however, that the game needs a customize control option badly. One last thing, the super bar mechanic in this title reminds me of Cyan and his Swordtech/Bishido charge bar in Final Fantasy 3/6. Random thought I know, but, it's just what I thought of when playing this game. Sorry for the wall of text.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, I never really got the "slow" criticism of this game. Like you said, it's not laggy, it's just paced more slowly than, say, Turtles in Time.

[@bimmylee6611]

exactly!

[@wannabesteve777]

Wait! Can you throw enemies in the SNES (American) version? I don't remember that

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You can, yes!

[@wannabesteve777]

@@SameNameDifferentGame 🤯🤯🤯

[@wannabesteve777]

@@SameNameDifferentGame 🤯🤯🤯

[@spyseahorse4277]

Wow mayor eye opener thanks.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Crazy, right? I had no idea for years how different it was.

[@spyseahorse4277]

@@SameNameDifferentGame yeah yeah I used to feel so flat after beating the boss. But seeing that you have to take on all the bosses before him after a whole new stage and in a super cool final stage arena like I said wow can't wait.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@spyseahorse4277 Definitely worth playing if you haven't played the Japanese version before.

[@mr.terrell3125]

Wow never knew thanks for the info😉😎💯💣💥

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you for watching!

[@ActuallySanFrancisco]

for whatever reason i've lagged to this day on actually checking out the double dragon series. i should change that.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Absolutely. If you dig brawlers, Double Dragon is a must.

[@SinYue]

For nostalgia reasons I play the american version like once a year for the past 15years or so, i always tought it was easy. now i know there is an harder japanese version of the game i really need to try that one.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's not a ton harder, but if you like the North American version, you gotta check out the Japanese edition!

[@allretroisfun9515]

love the intro

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks! And thanks for watching!

[@madrik6930]

Hello Master, just one to say, i love your channel, perfect! You tried the fan game? Legend of double dragon? Tell me😉😉😉🙏🐉🐲

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you! I have not played Legend, no.

[@madrik6930]

Master pls, give the game just one try, i know you love it💪😎😎😎 see ya next time, I check now your birthday stream👍🏾

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Ultimate Double Dragon looks fantastic & has super-deep combat systems for many, unique playable characters. There's a demo out (also for Open BoR) & it's got the support of this game's creator. Still no full release, though.

[@maximukhin45]

Can you make same name different game sparkster snes vs genesis

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's definitely on the list!

[@matthewlane518]

I always hated the jump kick were they throw there arms in the air

[@hazegrey9580]

I was playing the us version with a friend and we sandwiched the final boss by accident. He didn't fall down till his death.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Nice.

[@simonmejia6896]

Wonderful arcade port on SNES? I have a feeling is gotta be Turtles in Time the next one. Unless you throw us a surprise.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You're close, but no cigar. There's a hint after the credits.

[@user-pv9pv4xf9c]

Lots of people talk crap on Streets of Rage 3 but the Japanese version, Bare Knuckle 3 is soooooooo much better. Seems like Americans got the short end of the stick for a lot of 90s games lol.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Definitely seems that way.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Great episode & well done 👍. More like 'Same Game, Different Name' with this one. Japanese version is definitely the more complete package.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks! And yeah, the Japanese one is the way to go.

[@Nintality]

Glad i have the right version, great video man 👍👌

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@MethosChannel]

Played the shit out of this game with my brother, i just wish it was abit faster, we played alos Turtles In Time and i would love to see a "Turbo" version of Supder Double Dragon.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, that seems to be the main complaint about this one, but I don't mind the slower pacing, honestly.

[@cheappyv5156]

Who was ABOBO named after???

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I wish I knew. But I do know that the design of Chin in Double Dragon for the NES is based on two henchmen from King Boxer a.k.a. Five Fingers of Death.

[@ConsoleWars]

I was never big on double dragon, but maybe I'll give this one a shot. And I like the puns.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Haha! Glad someone is!

[@inspirationalgamer5443]

@Console Wars, This isn't the one to convince you in all honesty and I say that for both versions of this game. I really Recommend DD2 (NES or PC Engine version), DD4 (recently released on PS4 digital only), DD:Neo Geo, or DD: Neon. Especially Neon, it is just a goofy fun time. Completely satirizing the series in general.

[@SNARC15]

Neon is not just a parody of the Double Dragon series but when you think of it, all 90s beat 'em ups (mostly from Konami) in general. And that soundtrack? It might put even Violent Storm's to shame, and that's saying a lot!

[@knogface]

Can anyone recommend games beat em up with counter attacks? I love catching a hand on this game . Also any fighting games on SNES that doesn't have fireballs and things. I'm pretty well versed in SNES games so the more unknown the Better. Thank you

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's a newer game, but Way of the Passive Fist is all about that counterattack life.

[@knogface]

@@SameNameDifferentGame hell yeah. Thanks dude

[@MateDrinker33]

9:00: The intent behind Technos' refinements is probably the result of the Japanese Kaizen business philosophy: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen Boss video, by the way! You rank up there with SNESdrunk!

[@BigHilm]

Nice I hv the pal version. but may need to check out the Japanese version

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I didn't explicitly say so in the video, but the PAL version is the same as the US. Yeah, you should check out the import, if you can play NTSC games!

[@Dashman98]

Is the Japanese version faster?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The gameplay moves at the same speed in both.

[@steves3649]

I had the turbo controller, so I worked out a cheat. To use the spin lock all game long.

[@gameoverdude2249]

Whut???

[@mr.awesome6011]

Super Double Dragon was recently released as part of a new Double Dragon collection and this version includes both Super and Return of Double Dragon. Return is clearly the vastly superior version and the only one I'll stick with moving forward.

[@sikwitit773]

Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise Of The Dragons is better.

[@gameoverdude2249]

Is there any point in having a big score in this game other than having a high record? There's a couple of ways to get a lot of score by glitchs and infinite stun punches. When you beat the game, you don't really get rewarded for anything. I feel that having a big score is not really worth worrying about... lmk, thx.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Just bragging rights.

[@gameoverdude2249]

@@SameNameDifferentGame hmmm... gotcha, I was just wondering because I've beaten the game before and received nothing, even with a high score and I've recently found a funny glitch in the beginning of the 1st stage on 2 player B mode. You can get, like over 500000 score in under five minutes.

[@wildwest1832]

Well there ARE a ton of differences between early gaming vs mature gaming in terms of the industry. We dont see a lot of innovation anymore due to time/costs in making a modern game vs these days. So a lot has changed its not imagination or nostalgia. No patches then, but games were much smaller/simpler then they are today

[@osurpless]

Looks like another already above average game that is even better in JPN form. Just like Bayou Billy/Mad City. Wondering if those two are different enough besides difficulty for an episode?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I've considered it, but part of it is that I don't really like Bayou Billy very much.

[@fatenabu1]

Have you played the newest Double Dragon? It is full of nostalgia.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Neon? Yeah. I dig it.

[@fatenabu1]

Yea Neon, couldn't think of the full name lol

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

+Dustin Gibbons It's good! And Jake Kaufman's soundtrack is aces, to boot!

[@mitu123Copper]

There's one that came after Neon called Double Dragon II: Wander of the Dragons only for Xbox 360 and it's awful, avoid it. It's so bad I don't even want to play it ever again. I rather play Double Dragon V than that.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

True story. Still trying to figure out how that trainwreck got a green light.

[@cheappyv5156]

Personally, I love Rare's reading of the Dragon Brothers even more than the creator's. If only they made at least another one Battletoads+Double Dragon game that was as Inventive...

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I like BT&DD, but I don't love it. I think it's too much like Battletoads and not enough like a Double Dragon game. But it's fun enough.

[@cheappyv5156]

On the Stick hard to argue with that. In fact, every Battletoads game (I count 4) is quite similar to one another, which reinforces the fact that Rare was more or less out of ideas after the first one

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Agreed.

[@falselogic]

good puns in this episode B+

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You're the first to mention them!

[@squidperfume]

Hmmm.......Contra on the NES compared to the arcade version. Or Contra 3 on Super NES and Game Boy (or Game Boy Advance)

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Contra 3 has a different name on the GBA. Contra on the NES is my favorite game of all time, so I'm saving it for a special occasion.

[@nefarious520]

Tht Fukin music though! Thts my fight song!

[@Sinn0100]

You know...all Billy and Jimmy truly needed was a handgun and about 50 rounds of ammunition per stage and this would have been a whole lot simpler...;) I get that the differences don't really make a difference at first...but as they start to mount we see a different game emerge- I get it. I have a long history with Double Dragon dating back to the first. At one time the beat em' up genre was my favorite. I got the first Double Dragon for a birthday present on the Sega Master System and played it nonstop. Unfortunately, my Master System stopped working and had to be sent in for repairs and that was also around the time of one of my many surgeries. My parents (well mother and father...step parents can fuck off) knew I loved Double Dragon and jumped at the chance when they found out is was also on the NES. Here I was in the hospital, my own TV from home (something I still do when I go in...well pre-Switch) and my Nes hooked up playing Super Mario 2 (it was hard to find in stores so the staff would come by and check it out..actually, I have a funny story about Super Mario 2 and a group of guys from the morgue if you are interested and me a sick 6 year old at the time). My mother came in with Double Dragon for the Nes and it changed everything. I was stuck in the hospital for another week...with all I can play Double Dragon! At any rate, I have a bit of history witg Super Double Dragon as well...although not much. I literally almost picked it up for my Snes. I had both the Snes and Sega Genesis (both around launch) and of course I mowed lawns at this point for many of my games outside of birthdays and Christmas. I had at this point all three for my Nes, Streets of Rage for my Genesis, and Final Fight for my Snes. When I saw Double Dragon on the Snes I nearly jumped out of my skin....I yelled at the clerk "THAT ONE!!!" as if it were the last copy on planet Earth and I was rescuing it for future generations. I was about to ring out when I saw a kid make a beeline to the Genesis side and scream at his mother "I WANT THAT ONE!" The clerk guy still holding my Double Dragon asks him which one and he says....Streets of Rage 2. The guy behind the counter grabs it and starts back to the register and I said..."make it two." Unfortunately, I did not have the money for both and my parents were not with me....so I had to make a choice and that was invariably for SOR 2. That I'm afraid, was the last time I ever seriously considered buying a Double Dragon title outside of retro. Yes, Double Dragon is amazing and has a good lineage but by 1992, we were ready for bigger and better things. Great video as always. I really enjoy the work and effort you put into this. ;)

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Game Gear Double Dragon has guns... it kind of dampens the fun of playing a beat-'em-up, honestly. (Though Punisher and AvP both manage to do it well.) If I'm being honest, Streets of Rage 2 was probably the correct choice, as much as I love Return of Double Dragon. Being stuck in the hospital like that must suck, but at least you got to have your games with you to pass the time/take your mind off your illness.

[@Sinn0100]

@@SameNameDifferentGame I was joking about the gun...it would be a terrible idea unless limited like Dynamite Deku. I remember being blown away that SOR 2 had come out...how did I miss that one? I bought it without a second thought. I am always greatful to have my games when I get stuck in the hospital. I always bring something rediculous woth me on those unfortunate days. The last time I went in I brought the smallest screen I have 40 inch 4K screen and my Xbox One X. It also looks like I am going back in again soon but this time I am bringing my Switch (thank you for the kind words).

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@Sinn0100 I'm sorry you're going back in, hopefully it won't be a long stay.

[@LITTLE1994]

I wish we have the options like in the Japanese version...

[@retrogamerplayer7638]

Thanks for choose what the best. Im confuse if US version or Japan Version i like. Ok now i chooses Japan version ☺️ Thank u. 👍😊

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You're welcome!

[@retrogamerplayer7638]

@@SameNameDifferentGame 👍

[@braselthegamer]

It's interesting to see the Japanese game get the improvements rather than vice versa. Usually the worldwide releases had all the fixes and tweaks.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

But to be fair, while there were fixes in a lot of other games, Castlevania 3 and Ninja Gaiden 3 are both better on the Famicom.

[@CBelmont73]

I played this game, it felt slooooow.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I like to think of it as "deliberately paced." ;-)

[@antoniop1495]

@@SameNameDifferentGame So… Slow paced combat is good game design? Slow paced combat sometimes works for a specific enemy rather than the entire game. You did succeed in making me laugh.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@antoniop1495 I'm glad a five year old comment can still get someone so worked up they feel the need to comment back about how my opinion is bad. Stay mad, thanks for the engagement.

[@cheappyv5156]

And then Arc System released the actual Double 🐉 IV... Why did they even buy the IP, if they weren't willing to put any effort into it?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I mean... the weird thing about that game is, I think they DID put effort into it. The creator of DD, Yoshihisa Kishimoto, was brought back to direct it. It just turned out... bad. It's bad.

[@cheappyv5156]

On the Stick that's even worse, at least more sad... Haven't played it, but heard nothing but bad things about it

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I mean... it's not unplayable, but it's not good. Huge disappointment for me.

[@cheappyv5156]

On the Stick childhood dreams shattered 😥

[@ramonantoniodejuanbennett6239]

I love this game and it's "semi-sequel- spin-off" RAGE OF THE DRAGONS

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Rage of Dragons is pretty fun.

[@jdaywork2693]

Fan game remake demo available! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqKVfaKeaNyEd6c