That Time Capcom Sued Data East Over a Street Fighter Clone - Same Name, Different Game Gaiden

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Same Name, Different Game

Same Name, Different Game

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Remember that time Capcom sued Data East because Fighter's History was too similar to Street Fighter II? Let me remind you!
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@RayCommend
@RayCommend 4 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid this lawsuit puzzled me. The characters in both games are stereotypes, and I don't see any clone characters. The funny thing is that Capcom later released Darkstalkers which is basically the same idea as the Universal Monsters, so it would seem that they learned from this.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no joke. "Universal Monsters: The Fighting Game" was definitely taking advantage of "scenes-a-faire"!
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@Mackenzie Peters No judgment! Vampire Savior is a personal fave! But it's partially BECAUSE it's Universal Monsters: The Fighting Game!
@RayCommend
@RayCommend 4 жыл бұрын
@Mackenzie Peters Darkstalkers is awesome.
@CrossoverGameReviews
@CrossoverGameReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I think Capcom actually wanted to use Universal's monsters for a fighting game, but apparently either they couldn't get the rights or thought they were in the public domain, which they weren't, and decided to make their own monsters that resembled Universal's. I may have to look that up again, it's been a while since I looked up Darkstalkers.
@damedrops8197
@damedrops8197 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this when I was a kid. I owned both games.
@GamevsGame
@GamevsGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for casting my voice here, Joe! Looks like you've got a budding side-series on your hands here. Video Game lawsuits through the ages!
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing it, man!
@executivelifehacks6747
@executivelifehacks6747 2 жыл бұрын
Who is here after this appeared on the switch under SNES emulation?
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 2 жыл бұрын
I hope a lot of people! 😂
@susanfit47
@susanfit47 3 жыл бұрын
In 1991, Game developer Capcom released Street Fighter II. Its popularity led to an explosion of interest in the fighting game genre. Other companies rushed to capitalize, and Data East released their own one-on-one fighting game called Fighter's History 2 years later in 1993. Even compared to other fighting games, there were many similarities between Fighter's History and Street Fighter II, with both games having similar character designs and artwork, as well as similar special moves and controls. As it was later revealed, Data East created design documents that referred to Street Fighter II several times. Several people noticed the similarities and raised the issue with Capcom, reaching the president, Kenzo Tsujimoto. Capcom soon sued Data East for copyright infringements, in both America and Japan. Capcom also sought a preliminary injunction to stop Data East from distributing Fighter's History. Data East Corp.'s largest objection in court was that their 1984 arcade game Karate Champ was the true originator of the competitive fighting game genre, which predated the original Street Fighter by 3 years. Judge Orrick set an Halloween October 31, 1994 trial date, stating that he could not deny "the strong evidence that it set out to copy Street Fighter's success", noting similarities such as a "Chun-Li clone" (referring to Feilin) and several comparable special moves. The court noted that "of the eight pairs of characters and twenty-seven special moves at issue, three characters and five special moves in Fighter’s History are similar to protectable characters and special moves in Street Fighter II". Even noting the similarities between several moves, the court also noted that "Street Fighter II has a total universe of twelve characters and six hundred and fifty moves. Capcom concedes, as it must, that the vast majority of the moves are unprotectable because they are commonplace kicks and punches."However, Capcom U.S.A. lost the case on grounds that the copied elements were scenes a faire and thus excluded from copyright.
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. 4 жыл бұрын
If Data East wanted a unique fighting game of their own; Why couldn't they make *Bad Dudes II: The Karnov Games* where Blade and Striker enter a death match tournament to fight Karnov alongside 10 fighters from around the world that bare no resemblance to us street fighters?
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 жыл бұрын
That would have been cool. They could have added updated versions of the two guys from Karate Champ as well. Capcom couldn't do shit as THEY were the original Ryu and Ken.
@MellowGaming
@MellowGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I like this history stuff. Always been curious to try Fighter's History. Some of those Street Fighter wannabies from the time are at least interesting little time capsules and a reminder that the games industry has always had at least one game that gets cloned en masse. Good video dude and always good to hear Eric.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@kulturny_vklad
@kulturny_vklad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! One note tho... Fighter's History was not mediocre - not even close. In fact, in many way better that Street Fighter 2 (in some cases even in frames per second). They just didn't have Capcom money to promote their product. I wish the game was more popular!
@AGL57
@AGL57 4 жыл бұрын
Hope Enchanted Portals gets released, it's really looking good. It'd be something of a double standard for the general public to call that particular game out, seeing as all triple A games copy one another, and the world is full of 8-bit retro-inspired indie games...
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, it is not new for the gaming population to practice double standards.
@AGL57
@AGL57 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, and sadly the modern era with it's infinite possibilities of communication hasn't alleviated the issue, rather on the contrary. I just find it interesting how personal some of the issues seem to become - generally, if a group of gamers like Cuphead, you'd think we'd be thrilled to get a similar experience to try out, rather than starting a tempest in teapot, downvoting and spreading negative word of mouth. Laws are in place, regardless of twitter-campaigns, to protect the original devs and their IP. The industry never would've gone anywhere without - as you point out in the video - the Space Invaders, Pac-man, Mario, Sonic, Doom, Halo etc. clones.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@AGL57 "Tempest in a teapot" sums up 99% of gaming "controversies" at this point.
@ThumbBros_RunAndPun
@ThumbBros_RunAndPun 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this type of video-never really knew about all of it. The 90s was something else! Keep up with the awesome channel! Also, didn’t realize Eric was doing the voice of the judge; he sounds like a judge! lol
@mcbfilms22
@mcbfilms22 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never understood why Capcom went after this game for copyright infringement, when the first Art of Fighting is much closer an infringement with characters like Ryo Sakazaki and John Crawley. Hell, Crawley’s stage is a straight rip off of Guile’s Air Force base stage.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
That part honestly isn't super clear. I don't know why this and not other SF Clones.
@shishioh
@shishioh 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame Because both games were made by the same two guys. Matsumoto and Nishitani created SF, then jumped over to SNK to make Fatal Fury and AOF.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@shishioh That's true, but it doesn't explain why not Konami's Martial Champion or some other SF clone.
@thegamingwizard45
@thegamingwizard45 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame maybe they did not know about the others from what i had learn is the more fame something gets the more it is known maybe the other sf clones were not high in fame for capcom to know that or capcom was butt hurt the 2 people left them to make other sf clones :/ hard to tell why people do the things they do
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingwizard45 I suspect there's a 0 percent chance Capcom wasn't aware of Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, World Heroes and the others. Gaming wasn't nearly as big of a tent back then.
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries 4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel. Excellent idea for videos and looking forward to checking Out your work. Good job
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
You've been rocking it Joe. I never heard this story, so it was a treat.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jenovi!
@eyeh8phonies361
@eyeh8phonies361 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the litigation history lesson. I never knew about that.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Mintcar923
@Mintcar923 4 жыл бұрын
The irony here! It was Data East that personally introduced myself to the genre via Karate Champ.. When I first noticed the SF1 cabinet I thought it was just a KC or Yie Ar knock off.. Yet I was still intrigued.. Word on the street was the SF series was directly inspired by the both of those titles.. No pun intended..
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I think more than a few people were first exposed to fighting games with Karate Champ, but Street Fighter II is so far beyond what that game did.
@Mintcar923
@Mintcar923 4 жыл бұрын
Same Name, Different Game True as it seemingly caused the 2nd arcade craze wave.. The first being stuff like Galaga, MS Pac Man Time Pilot etc.. In hindsight in having lived through it I really don’t remember any sudden awe at least in my neighborhood.. It took maybe a year or so to grow on people a bit from what I do recall in addition to its peers like MK.. Still all in all both the 80’s and 90’s were massively hopping as far as gaming in virtually all respects..
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mintcar923 Where I was, it felt like both SF2 and MK1 were pretty immediate sensations. They sprung up in arcades and folks couldn't get enough.
@Mintcar923
@Mintcar923 4 жыл бұрын
Same Name, Different Game We can definitely agree both the 80’s & 90’s were in fact the Golden age as far as arcade games
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mintcar923 No doubt.
@bagsikdangal
@bagsikdangal 4 жыл бұрын
Capcom probably sued Data East, because Fighter's History's has similar 6 button setting that Street Fighter 2 uses. Karnov's Revenge(the sequel to Fighter's History) only has 4 button setting. Those middle punches and kicks were gone. So Karnov's Revenge emulated SNK's 4 button setting.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Fighter's History Dynamite (Karnov's Revenge) was, as I said in the video, a Neo-Geo game. It has to have a 4-button control scheme, because the Neo-Geo only had four buttons. Also, their lawsuit had failed by the time Dynamite came out, so they would have been pretty dumb to attempt another lawsuit after the first one had already failed.
@bagsikdangal
@bagsikdangal 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame True. Capcom couldn't touch Dynamite, after their lawsuit failed. Fun fact: Mizaguchi from Fighter's History, appeared in the japanese only released PS2 game King Of Fighters Maximum Impact Regulation A.
@Albert8044
@Albert8044 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ray from Fighter's History looks more like Cody from Final Fight based on his outfit rather than Ken from SF. Sure the move sets are kinda like Ken's but overall Ray looks more like Cody.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I can see Cody just as much as Ken.
@Albert8044
@Albert8044 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame In other honorable mention, there was a 2D Fighting game called Power Moves(Snes)/Deadly Moves(Genesis) and the main protagonist his name is Joe, a Ryu look alike.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@Albert8044 Yep! I'm told that, scientifically speaking, it's one of the top 100 fighting games of all-time.
@davistalhone9482
@davistalhone9482 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this was an interesting one. You can almost see Capcom's point but at that point how many one on ones were out there? It was like dozens of new ones every time you went to the arcade. Couldn't go after them all! Great clip.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just find it weird they went after this particular one. Thanks for watching!
@davistalhone9482
@davistalhone9482 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame Truly a pleasure- in fact I'm working on a magazine article concerning this subject (though not quite as in depth). More the fact that SNK actually beat Capcom to the proverbial Street Fighter punch but didn't think SNK had any legal precedence over them! Only to go and sue Data East. Sheer craziness. I'll get you the link when it's published.
@VahanNisanian
@VahanNisanian 4 жыл бұрын
Data East also sued EPYX, who copied Karate Champ with 1985's International Karate.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
They did! They won that one, and it's cited several times in this decision.
@afropowa1598
@afropowa1598 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff there, I never even heard of that one.
@VahanNisanian
@VahanNisanian 4 жыл бұрын
@@afropowa1598 I first learned about that in Steven Kent's 2001 book "The Ultimate History of Video Games: From Pong to Pokemon".
@afriend9428
@afriend9428 4 жыл бұрын
*I had Super Play magazine and they said they should pay Data East NOT to bring it to Europe for Super Nintendo LOL*
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, it's not that bad.
@aznpikachu215
@aznpikachu215 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing us old school and learn about the law.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 жыл бұрын
TBH it looks more like an SNK game. In fact, I'm surprised that Capcom never went after SNK for all the masses of Final Fight and SFII clones that they continuously churned out.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
It would be hard to make a case for Final Fight, since that wasn't the first (or even the first popular) belt-scroller. Something like Fatal Fury would have been an easier case, I guess, but they still could have backed that down with stuff like having only three playable fighters and a linear story mode, which SF2 didn't have.
@professors84
@professors84 4 жыл бұрын
Man that Enchanted Portals game looks real bad...lol
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked Cuphead, so I'll probably give it a try. It looks like "What If Cuphead, But a Flash Animation," but not everyone has Microsoft investing in them.
@hazegrey9580
@hazegrey9580 4 жыл бұрын
Im surprised thry didn't mention the Zangief clone. Had his lunge kick , weak or mid kick, and body slam move
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't look much like Zangief, though.
@mahmoodalmahmood7014
@mahmoodalmahmood7014 4 жыл бұрын
His kick is just crackshoot kick from Terry fatal fury.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty similar, yeah. And SNK didn't sue!
@DarthcrackbabY
@DarthcrackbabY 4 жыл бұрын
The creators of the original street fighter went over to snk
@exaltedfalcheon1793
@exaltedfalcheon1793 8 ай бұрын
Enchanted Portals definitely aged... like how one ages.
@ThumbBros_RunAndPun
@ThumbBros_RunAndPun 4 жыл бұрын
Quite the history! No pun intended to “fighters history!” lol
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@masterrserch3971
@masterrserch3971 3 жыл бұрын
Ps, this is an awesome video, and channel... can't believe I only just now have found it, but it's okay cuz I just subbed and put notifications ON, so there ya go...
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@atik1798
@atik1798 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, very well researched :)
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KarcamoGaming
@KarcamoGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great video man!
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jonathanalvarez2909
@jonathanalvarez2909 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that when i was a kid, i used to think that street fighter 2 was a sequel to street smart.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I can kinda see that! I lived in a place where there were a couple SF1 machines around, so I knew the deal, but SF2 was so much better.
@jonathanalvarez2909
@jonathanalvarez2909 4 жыл бұрын
That's cool. Fortunately for me, my cousin took me to this old convenience store where they had an original street fighter cabinet, which to this day is the only oh street fighter cabinet I've seen in person.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanalvarez2909 I'm still sad the ones by me didn't have the big pressure-sensitive rubber buttons.
@LawandOrder-fi5xk
@LawandOrder-fi5xk 5 күн бұрын
Why didn't Capcom go after ADK for World Heroes or SNK for Fatal Fury 2.
@robertlauncher
@robertlauncher 3 жыл бұрын
Ooo a Cuphead type game! I like Cuphead, will probably enjoy Enchanted Portals.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it turns out!
@noneofyourbusiness4616
@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын
You may have mentioned it in the video and I spaced out and missed it, but why did a Japanese company take another Japanese company to court in the USA? One lawsuit over copying that stands out to me (because both the movie that was copied and the movie that copied it are now considered classics) was Toho suing Sergio Leone for copying Kurosawa's samurai film "Yojombo" and turning it into the Clint Eastwood spaghetti Western "A Fistful of Dollars." Toho won the lawsuit and got a 15% share of the profits from Leone's film
@zanegandini5350
@zanegandini5350 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering that as well, you'd think this suit would have taken place in Japan instead.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know enough about Japanese copyright law to answer that, honestly, but I'd guess because they thought US courts would look more favorably on their case.
@noneofyourbusiness4616
@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame The theory that came to my mind (based on nothing but wild guesswork) was maybe it was just a lawsuit over distribution in the US? I dunno...
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness4616 Nope, it was 100% about copyright infringement.
@noneofyourbusiness4616
@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame I just meant that the copyright infringement would be the reason for the distribution being stopped in the US. Wasn't sure if Data East would have been stopped from distributing the game elsewhere in the world if it was a US legal decision.
@cyberpunknut1099
@cyberpunknut1099 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I played fighters history for a bit and went right back to street fighter. Played fighters history dynamite and went right back to samurai showdown 2. Yeah fighters history was a homage to street fighter. Sega suing devs of Simpson’s hit and run over the arrow game feature was sillier than this.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think "homage" is maybe a bit of a euphemism, but it works.
@saulgarcia7083
@saulgarcia7083 3 жыл бұрын
Finally dude! Omg! I've been looking for this game for years dude.(fighters history) remember playing it at the arcade. To it looked cooler when copy cat ryu did the hadoken and a tiger came out. And the dragon punch was better. In my opinion of course.
@TheRealJPhillips
@TheRealJPhillips 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lizardguyNA
@lizardguyNA 2 жыл бұрын
The truth of the matter at hand is that game rip offs are not only required for gaming to thrive but are literally the norm. I mean, saying a fighting game can only be made by Capcom is like saying only Nintendo can do platformers.
@yakadoodledongywongy8718
@yakadoodledongywongy8718 2 жыл бұрын
Fighters History is not even the worst offender tbh.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?!
@afriend9428
@afriend9428 4 жыл бұрын
*SAMSUNG and iPhone is same story!*
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Well, not exactly the same story.
@sloppynyuszi
@sloppynyuszi 4 жыл бұрын
I played fighters history eventually. I don’t see why it was sued. World Heroes would have been just as close to Street Fighter 2 or even Fatal Fury especially that latter versions.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I think Capcom just wanted to make an example of someone. Talk about your all-time backfires.
@b_side8669
@b_side8669 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you should’ve said it set the world on yoga fire 😂
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter dad jokes in my comments. SMDH.
@b_side8669
@b_side8669 4 жыл бұрын
Same Name, Different Game well one I’m not a dad & second well I thought it was funny oh well as Jiminy cricket said well... can’t please everybody
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@b_side8669 One needn't be a dad to tell a dad joke. For some, the dadliness just lives within them.
@b_side8669
@b_side8669 4 жыл бұрын
Same Name, Different Game ahh well anywho keep up the awesome work 🤘🏽
@4ArchieLee
@4ArchieLee 4 жыл бұрын
Breakers technically better than both is the next video.............
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the science tells us...
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 2 жыл бұрын
Kyu should sue Ken for copying him.
@o2Monster_X
@o2Monster_X 3 жыл бұрын
i played fighters history. i always thought that, unlike fatal fury, mortal kombat, and world heroes, that Fighters History was the least original rip off. thanks for clarifying some copyright law though! Ifound this video by googling "fighting game that copied sf2 the most" having forgot its name and mistaking it for king of fighters!
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, dang! Hope you like what Google led you to!
@osakatales9228
@osakatales9228 3 жыл бұрын
Fatal fury isn't really a Sf2 ripoff
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
@@osakatales9228 Yeah, agreed. It was made by the same guy who directed the original SF at Capcom, before he jumped to SNK.
@LeotoBrilloVT
@LeotoBrilloVT Жыл бұрын
So: Recently, a game was announced that baffled the world to its' core: Foamstars. A bold-faced ripoff of Splatoon made by Square Enix. Rather unfortunately, I think this video and the resulting copyright decisions made from it will mean there's no way for Nintendo to try and slap Good old Square with any sort of copyright. Even though there's also clear evidence that square was lifting ideas directly from splatoon (it's really easy to find comparisons that are almost comically similar), The fact that there is something of a substantial difference between the 2 and that that Square was definitely not lifting any code from Splatoon means that Foamstars will exist. With that being said: This is a squar Enix Multiplayer game I'm talking about - Nintendo's not going to need to lift so much as a finger for that game to have its' bubble burst and be down within 1 year. Unless Square Enix is actually allowing their developers to make it a good game - OOOOOOH BOY, Do I see things going badly for it.
@realistmw
@realistmw 4 жыл бұрын
They made a zangief clone
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
MARSTORIUS!
@feedthesnake3394
@feedthesnake3394 4 жыл бұрын
if you are the bigger company, sue the smaller one because they have to pay to defend themselves.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't work out this time
@UltimateMovieMaster
@UltimateMovieMaster 4 жыл бұрын
Recently tried this and its sequel and in all honesty they aren't too bad, they're not as good as street fighter 2 but perfectly playable and has aged better than games like mortal kombat and the original fatal fury. For anyone looking to play the series on the switch I recommend skipping the first one and going straight to karnov's revenge, the original is part of the johnny turbo arcade line of releases which are just awful. Just avoid that line in general since you can't do basic things like selecting the difficulty or button map, which is especially terrible since they choose some of the worst button placements for games, yet expect you pay as much as an arcade archives release.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
The Johnny Turbo releases are very bare bones, yeah. I'm also not sure I'd put original Fighter's History over original Fatal Fury, but neither is really all that worth a revisit these days.
@UltimateMovieMaster
@UltimateMovieMaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame I only really put it above the og fatal fury because I felt the inputs are read a bit more consistently.
@derrykrhodes3431
@derrykrhodes3431 4 жыл бұрын
We don't talk enough about Street Smart as a fighting game and I don't like that. It was a nice looking game for the time. Ahead of its time.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I always kinda dug it, yeah.
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood how Capcom went after Data East and never tried SNK. I mean, SNK had the World Heroes series, for crying out loud, and that WAS a Street Fighter II clone. Didn't Data East create the very first one on one fighter, ever?: Karate Champ? It even had real clones on PCs everywhere, at that time. Okay, he actually mentioned that game, and more. He knows his stuff. -HERETICPRIME
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
World Heroes was after Fighter's History, wasn't it?
@greek1237
@greek1237 9 ай бұрын
I felt the first fighting game was that boxing game way back on the Atari. It may of been 2 boxes hitting each other, but it counts lol.
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain 9 ай бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame Nope. World Heroes was released July of 1992. Fighter's History was released in March 1993.
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain
@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain 9 ай бұрын
@@greek1237 Karate Champ is considered the first one on one competitive ARCADE fighting game.
@greek1237
@greek1237 9 ай бұрын
@@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain But Atari did have boxing on their system in 1980.
@hoodmistressreloaded
@hoodmistressreloaded 2 жыл бұрын
Another fighting game that I thought of was Dragon Master created by a (defunct, perhaps) company called Unico. This game blatantly bit off Street Fighter II from jump as far as sprites and attack moves (the whole game is hot trash juice), so curiosity has me questioning why Capcom didn't sue the brakes off Unico instead of Data East 🤔
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, I don't know, but my guess would be that they didn't think Unico had anything to take. Also, part of suing in the US is showing damages, and a game that a lot of folks never played/wasn't making much money would be hard to show damaged them in any meaningful way. But, again, just a guess.
@hoodmistressreloaded
@hoodmistressreloaded 2 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame You do make a good point, considering Unico was looking to cash in on the fighting game boom of the 90s (but ended up going bust)
@lonewolffang
@lonewolffang 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Makoto is character that made out to look and remind me of Ryoko, considering they're both judo based characters, but that might be just me.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe? But she came so much later that feels kinda unlikely.
@AntonioCardenasT
@AntonioCardenasT 3 жыл бұрын
They are probably so similar because they share the same inspiration Ryoko Tani.
@joeyfarris2543
@joeyfarris2543 3 ай бұрын
Capcom lost..... Hahahahahahaha😂😂😂😂
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond 4 жыл бұрын
It's never RICO.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
True. But what about libelslander?
@taemeister9302
@taemeister9302 3 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter stole their idea from Karate Champ (NES)
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
That's certainly what Data East alleged.
@masterrserch3971
@masterrserch3971 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard of this game, and jeez Louise, if that ain't a friggin goddamn full ass rip off of SFII, then I dont know what is lol....how blatant!
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely is! Just not a legally infringing one.
@lukafanatic1816
@lukafanatic1816 2 жыл бұрын
The game plays better than SF2 if I have to be honest
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 2 жыл бұрын
Can't go there with you.
@kabiebebe2332
@kabiebebe2332 4 жыл бұрын
Why would data east dive in fighting game when Rpg genre is ripe for taking 😁😁😁
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... because fighting games were way more popular than RPGs (particularly in the west) in the early '90s?
@jonathanalvarez2909
@jonathanalvarez2909 4 жыл бұрын
I always ask myself, why capcom only went for this particular game. I mean look at snk, they had or have dozens of street fighter clones, specially world heroes.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Same! There wasn't any documentation I saw that illustrated why this one and not others.
@jonathanalvarez2909
@jonathanalvarez2909 4 жыл бұрын
Specially the two ninja characters which are pretty much Ryu and Ken ripoffs.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanalvarez2909 No kidding!
@osakatales9228
@osakatales9228 3 жыл бұрын
SNK did it better though.
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist 4 жыл бұрын
lol I remember this
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 4 жыл бұрын
Some people don't, apparently!
@RawrX32009
@RawrX32009 Жыл бұрын
Fighter's history is an underrated masterpiece
@ElricSowrd
@ElricSowrd 4 жыл бұрын
Yo.
@HalifaxHercules
@HalifaxHercules 6 ай бұрын
The Judge's ruling in Capcom vs Data East was flawed as Fighter's History clearly plagiarized Street Fighter II and got away with it based on an argument that "copied elements like mechanics, 6-button layout and character archetypes were a standard for the genre and cannot be copyrighted.", resulting in Capcom losing. To let Data East get away with plagiarizing Capcom's Street Fighter II is the same as allowing Meghan Trainor to plagiarize Phish's Contact and Koyote's Happy Mode with her "All About That Bass" single, or Johnny Cash plagiarizing Gordon Jenkins' "Folsom Prison Blues" with "Crescent City Blues". Lessons learned, when you have legal issues, get it settled in your base country, such as Japan in the case of Capcom and Data East, not in another one like USA.
@RawrX32009
@RawrX32009 5 ай бұрын
Uhhh No The game has some original ideas and mechanics and is about as similar to SF2 as any other 6 button arcade fighter
@LM77va
@LM77va 11 ай бұрын
The input & combo system was transplanted from Capcom to Fighters History. The judge clearly wasn't a street fighter 2 fan, else he would've understood the situation.
@alejandropastor4357
@alejandropastor4357 8 ай бұрын
No, you cant copyright imputs or gameplay systems, the judge was right.
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