Same Price, Different Planet? Jeep Wrangler vs Polaris XPEDITION ... Which Would You Buy?

[@christopherpike8269]

In the state of NM, if you add turn signals this Polaris would be street legal. Then the question would be why? Jeep hands down beats this thing for all around use any day.

[@foellerd]

Hell it beats it off-road too except in situations where size and weight is the limiting factor. There’s no replacement for large tires.

[@PatrickRich]

Street legal, but not highway legal. Thats the biggest con of any SxS compared to something highway legal.

[@wcjeep]

Wa St too

[@SVW1976]

​@@PatrickRich Great point

[@jonathancole6124]

Never on highways in any state. Polaris are junk.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

The transmission on that Polaris sounds like a Nissan CVT with 300,000 miles on it.

[@CallsignVega]

Probable some Chinese made POS.

[@philipparana9225]

I don't understand these things they sound like broken snowblowers and look like my kids power wheels for the price of a Tacoma

[@Stuka87]

When shifting the JK into low range, never put a bunch of strength on the shifter. It will break the bushings on the linkage. Shift into neutral, let it slightly roll, and then move the shifter. If done right, it will just slide into or out of low range.

[@josephzanghi3036]

agree, the guy had no idea what he was doing and it showed

[@breckfreeride]

That used to be common knowledge before everything got stupid electronic buttons.

[@zachcroft6871]

I'm so glad Polaris brought back the 92 Ford Explorer 😂

[@sapperROSS]

From the back it looks just like like it, i cant unsee it now

[@jameswood3878]

Something they never seem to note is that the manual for the Jeep states that if trying to shift into 4L at a stand still difficulty can occur. It actually states to be rolling just a little, shift transmission to N and then shit to 4L. If they would do the process correctly then he would have much less issues.

[@Stuka87]

@@markmonroe7330 This isn't a "jeep thing". Its every t-case with low range and an automatic transmission thing. The vehicles with an electronic shifter will sit there trying over and over until it gets into gear. Rolling at 1-2mph in neutral makes it very easy to shift. And for manuals, you just put the clutch in and shift, very simple.

[@Cloud30000]

In my F150 and my previous RAM 1500, I can select 4low from a dead stop and it shifts on the first try every time. Most modern 4x4’s have a clutch in the transfer case now to allow both 4auto and 4low without moving.

[@Eveloffroad]

I came to say this. Slow roll in neutral and you are golden.

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

Reviewing cars doesn't make you a car guy. Andre learned to drive 2WD tractors in Mother Russia.

[@brsnow225]

4L shifting is pretty much a universal process, neutral, let it roll, let the gearbox find the notch not under power

[@krover01]

Tfl should invest in offroad driving class for your guys. It's obvious that they don't know how and when to use lockers and low range. For a channel that does a lot of offroad reviews, it would be nice to see someone who actually knows how to drive offroad doing the reviews.

[@Dreamscythe1]

yeah for sure i dont watch hardly of there offroad stuff, especially involving UTVs because they just have no idea what there doing or talking about. its painful for an experienced off roader its like watching a teen in his first machine

[@josephzanghi3036]

you can say that again, damn poor off road drivers

[@Suki_the_half_blue]

Absolute facts.

[@4-LOW]

Somebody needed to do this video. The Polaris is ridiculous. Why not take the Jeep so it will also be street legal? I'd go Wrangler every time if these were the only two options. Hell, you could buy a NICE Wrangler Rubicon on the used market and keep $15k in your pocket. These UTVs have just gone too far. And for F sake, the owners manual clearly states to roll forward at 2 MPH when shifting to 4-Low. It's easy peasy as Roman would say if done correctly.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

They did the same thing with Tacoma locker, acting like it doesnt engage when, by design, you are supposed to roll forward after pressing the locker button.

[@dundonrl]

Because the SxS can go places that the Jeep can't, due to it being much narrower. If you compare the 2 door Wrangler to the 2 door Polaris, the length difference and wheel base is even more biased towards the SxS, (Wrangler 96.8" wheel base and 166.8" overall length, Polaris 87.5" wheelbase 122.5" overall length.) You can also get the Polaris General which is even shorter with a 83" wheel base and 118.2" overall length.

[@coloradomallcrawlers]

One you can drive to the trail, the other you have to trailer. I’m definitely NOT anti-SXS, but for Colorado and Utah, they just don’t seem to make sense (not enough SXS only trails and some towns are banning them). You can take a stock 4WD vehicles through most Colorado trails without issue. Now it TN where there are SXS only off-road areas, I could see myself getting one.

[@Dreamscythe1]

changing all the time though! more and more states keep making them road legal.

[@edge35]

My obstacle name suggestions: - Breakover Bluff - Peak Performance - Tumbleweed Ridge

[@brsnow225]

Tummy duster

[@CartersYTube]

You’ll burn a belt up doing those slow obscenities in high range!

[@mvubu6823]

ssshhhh... don't interrupt experts at work

[@joshc606]

I said before…under 20mph always use low.

[@architypeone8646]

Possible obstacle names: "Roman's Rump", "Mt. David", "Mt. TFL", and "Pile-O-Dirt".

[@MidSouthUTV]

14:12 Remember, Andre had his sway bars disconnected and running on 35". You can also remove the sway bars on the Xpedition, just not electronically like the Jeep. And with a long travel suspension kit or forward lift kit, you can also run 35" tires on the Xpedition, but not in factory form.

[@zb6618]

Counter argument, you can put 40s on the Jeep with more lift and gears

[@jawall1068]

You can literally disconnect the sway bars on any vehicle on the planet. The benefit on a rubicon or bronco badlands….you can do it from the drivers seat.

[@wpherigo1]

How about David’s Dirt Dump for the obstacle.? The engine in the Polaris sounds more like a generator rather than a serious vehicle engine.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

They all sound like a generator lol😅

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

That new obstacle is a nice addition but I feel it needs a log or something at the crest of it. Every time a vehicle climbs it the angle will be reduced without something solid there. It would also create more of a challenge to have more of a ledge. I'm afraid over time it would just become easier and easier to do as tires and undersides of cars scrape it away and lessen the angle/ crest so it wouldn't be apples to apples comparisons.

[@holden8239]

It would be cool to see some stair step obstacles added to the course with increasing step heights as you go higher.

[@wompa70]

I'd much rather have a cheep Jeep or pickup over the Polaris. The cost for features might be reasonable for an ATV but there's no way I could spend that much on something that can't be driven to the store.

[@ambienteterrazas]

The Polaris makes sense if you are rich and own a ranch and the ranch is huge and it gets super cold in the winter and you are unaware that you can buy a true 4wd Kei Truck for like 15-25kish...

[@Cloud30000]

The Polaris sounds like a cross between an RC car and a ride-on lawnmower.

[@thebeddoctor4273]

$47,000 F that. That Polaris is going to be eating belts like crazy with all that extra weight.

[@dougpendleton1266]

The Polaris looks like a pregnant Roller Skate!

[@hummyhero1484]

Lol 😂

[@peruser155]

They ARE pretty ugly.

[@MontanaMedic13]

Id imagine that the Polaris resale value would definitely not hold up anywhere near what a Jeep would.

[@Dreamscythe1]

if your worried about resale your in the wrong world, there both toys that burn money like no tomorrow

[@mitchstein288]

I grew up riding fourwheelers. Specifically, a 1986 Honda Foretrax 350 4X4. That thing was indestructible. Later on, a Foreman 450. Also a well put together machine. That was really before side by sides gained popularity. I always felt that Honda had better quality than Polaris, especially back then. Which I wish that weren't the case because I am born and raised in MN. I thought that as the years went by, Polaris would've upped their quality a lot, but this machine sounded unrefined. I wouldn't buy this machine for $47K. I'm sure it's great off-road, but I feel that that is way too much money for something that needs refinement. Plus looking around the cabin, I'm just not seeing it. I'd really have to be using it everyday like on a farm or spend quite a lot of time on trails with my family to justify that money. My initial thought on naming the obstacle - Humpty Hill. But reading through the comments I do like Breakover Berm as well. Also, seeing as how they're naming these obstacles after the guys, I think we need to come up with something clever for Alex.

[@davidmcelfresh3024]

I’ll take manual levers over electronic switches any day! When my old CJ2a wouldn’t start, easy to shift and roll start. Could run fender deep in water crossing and not worry about electrical issues with servos. Just keep the water below the fuse box and intake!

[@simonclements7431]

Horrific transmission noise, and harshness in the Polaris.. the CVT gearbox has no place in this vehicle, proving its just built to a price (for the extras) while the running gear remain unchanged

[@joecerda630]

The can am is not a direct competitor to the jeep since it's not highway legal. But...I think it will work for a lot of urban areas.

[@TheAstraeuss]

It's a Polaris.

[@sapperROSS]

Ive seem then on highways in montana going 80mph lol

[@Cocky.Rooster]

​@@sapperROSSand all the passengers hated it! These side by sides are not real competition for real vehicles.

[@doublebackagain4311]

Do they even do crash testing on them?

[@sapperROSS]

@Cocky.Rooster yeah they are stupid imo, my nissan frontier is the same size, cheaper and has more utility lol

[@ryanmartinage]

..... can we just all agree pricing has gone full stupid? This is a large 4wheeler with a loose cab slapped on costing as much as a good used Rubicon JLU. This is just getting dumb.

[@daveflibotte6962]

Not to take anything away from the Polaris, it looks like a fantastic vehicle. But it’s just an off-road vehicle, and unless I can legally registered to drive on the road, I would think for most people at these prices the jeep is a better use of our money. I bought the Polaris I would additionally need a vehicle and a trailer to get it to the off-road site.

[@doublebackagain4311]

New Obstacle: "Giddy-Up" PS: That side-by-side would be worthless in pretty much any sort ot mud.

[@northernidahooutdoors3748]

You guys definitely need to learn SXS’s (especially CVT’s) a bit… I would recommend changing that belt before you go on long trips by yourselves… Always be in low range when crawling or anywhere slow enough where the clutch won’t be constantly engaged (approximately 15mph depending on terrain)..

[@scoobygms210]

if its not road legal its not a replacement . and it cost the same and u have to have a truck a trailer and a place to store it its really a 100k toy

[@schmojo33]

I wonder if Mahindra can release a 4 door enclosed version of the Roxor. If they did I think they would blow away both this and new Jeeps.

[@seadoo4life127]

You would be nuts to spend that coin on an off road only rig. You still need a vehicle to bring it to most locations.

[@soulin2010]

I love watching the TFL channels.. I tune in daily! A great name for the new obstacle, I think, Mole Hill

[@whatwhat530]

I have heard people complain about the noise level inside the ATV. The closed in rear section acts like an echo amplifier chamber and by the end of the day they felt worn out from the sound. They did have helmets on .

[@JEEPIMPACT]

I like how he tries to make it look like. It was hard to put it in four wheel drive. Definitely nothing more than an advertisement for polaris.

[@jamesbaker9096]

I don’t like the expectations of the expedition only because the miles that you put on side-by-side’s or not as effective as actual automobiles you would have to rebuild the engine after 4 to 5000 miles

[@9253349]

Omg, who wants to listen to that motor reving to the moon all day. Give me the Jeep.

[@rockie307]

Polaris is never the answer. Ive learned my lesson already lol.

[@blakemarchand6650]

Fr fr

[@adventurefuel5172]

Sooo it’s a Jeep that’s not street legal… Ok, out west in Texas, Colorado, Utah, or one of the wide open states where you can own a huge ranch and want to drive it but it’s all your property it might make sense. Otherwise get a Jeep, or maybe a Bronco, then you can still go to the get supplies in town.

[@bradfitzsimmons1126]

That button he had his finger on is a sway bar disconnect ( electronic ). Im assuming both of you dont off road alot. He can use that to keep both front wheels solid on the ground. The Rubicon model is set to go from the dealership parking lot. Best to use better off road personalities that know what they are doing. I know your pushing the polaris but you shoul be comparion theor equal in UTV.

[@rondg2]

basically solid axles vs independent. solid axles have a LOT of unsprung weight so they suck at hi-speed hits but have better articulation.

[@dylano7242]

It's ridiculous cost of atvs , utes even used. It's cheaper to buy a jeep, toyota or short bed pickup. And cheap to fix the car than an arv, easier find parts. And a vehicle is safer, on off road .

[@johnnycomelately4257]

The Polaris reminds me of a $50K electric toy car.

[@jguil4d]

Over the years, you’ve talked a lot about why solid axles are better for off road. And yet, there are no side-by-sides or ATVs that have solid axles front and rear, with only older and less capable models having solid rear axles. Could you do a breakdown at some point on why it is that these purpose-built ORVs do better with independent axles?

[@TonyChin226]

Because people now typically value a comfortable ride over off road capabilities.

[@jguil4d]

@@TonyChin226 Maybe? I’ve ridden an older ATV with a solid rear axle, and several more modern ones with fully independent suspension. The only one I’ve actually rolled was the older one. I wasn’t doing anything particularly aggressive when it happened, and it definitely felt quite a bit tippier just generally.

[@Stuka87]

Independent suspension is better for higher speed stuff. This has always been true. Solid axles are far better for slower speed articulation and durability. Independent suspension is very fragile. Just look at how often Bronco's are breaking front end parts. Where as on a new Wrangler people throw 37's on them and just go wheeling. They can certainly break with abuse. But its been pretty well proven then IFS doesn't hold up. And it is worth noting that side by sides have CVs and a-arms break all the time. Just watch some of the recovery youtube channels. Its a non-stop stream of broken side by sides.

[@jguil4d]

@@Stuka87 shows how aggressively I ride that I’ve never broken anything hard on my machines. 🤣😂

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

The only argument for the Polaris is outright off-road capability and off road speed. It's a difficult argument once you get so close to a jeep or other vehicles because it is more pigeon-holed with applicable usage. The Polaris is louder, creakier, less refined, less versatile, arguably less reliable and will be harder to sell when it comes time to swap. They're walking a close line to becoming a "normal" vehicle and I'm not sure that's a great place to be for a sxs, especially at that price.

[@Sertsch]

I think the bouncing shows the difference between independent Suspension and Solid Axles quite well.

[@AV8R_1]

A HUGE factor to consider too, though, is the fact that the Jeep is 50 state street legal. Side-by-side UTV's have a difficult time becoming street legal in many places, and in some places such as where I live in CT, there is NOTHING you can do to make them street legal. -also, I would name your new obstacle "speed bump". 😂

[@markcoopers1930]

Obstacle name: 1) Mole-hill 2) 'Moreau's Mound (after David)

[@zakarybarclay999]

But remember the utv will have cheaper insurance. No emissions testing and you can take it on more trails depending on what state your in.

[@ZimmTyler]

These utv's price ranges are getting way out of hand. Double or triple what they should be

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Obstacle name suggestions. The breakover bump. Or "the fools errand" Or "grandpas gut" That Polaris probably has better flex than my Cherokee. It doesn't wind up mattering. 9 times out of 10 it doesn't matter. The Land Rover CEO gave that talk 20 years ago.

[@MidSouthUTV]

11:50 That does not sound like you had the Xpedition in Low gear for this climb. 11:57 in low gear it wouldn't have to rev that high to get going up that hill, so you were using all motor on that climb. Update, nevermind you figured it out.

[@jporkchop]

I have seen a Polaris outfitted with a mini gun during my days in uniform. Very cool. That said, I think the Jeep is better all around just because I can legally drive it on the road not just off road

[@mastermoarman]

the polaris is cool. the problem is the polaris cant be licensed for the road in most states. so getting to and from the trail is the hard part

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

jeep could have done the logs at 30mph and been as stable as the SxS. Real offroaders know that going slower doesn't mean smoother on obstacles like that, but this ad isnt for us

[@ctmcadventures7772]

I have a polaris sxs and have a ton of fun with it but unless you like to replace parts frequently wich i don't!! Go with a jeep. 2500 miles and i have changed a-rm bushings 3 times, driveshaft,front diff bearings,wheel bearings.. the list goes on and I'm an old guy that cruises west Virginia trails at 10-15mph .. big waste of money but fun

[@Isha048]

That Jeep is great, no way I could choose that ugly thing... I mean the Polaris. Thanks for the video.

[@mzinns]

New obstacle name idea: Roman’s Throne

[@infernoking7504]

Solid axles will out preform the independet suspension offroad

[@holden8239]

I think if you cover the new obstacle in concrete it would keep it from eroding away and the top being knocked down so fast.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

None of the Above ! what about Polaris XPEDITION 100,000 mile [ Factory Warranty ] = ZERO

[@DougOtte]

Name it the cow pie.

[@realrocktimusprime]

I will take a geared transmission over a cvt for offroad every time.

[@ProductofNZ]

What a crazy price for that Polaris. Imaging if the US got Jimnys...... Top spec Jimny Sierra costs $13k in Japan.

[@stevendrake477]

I honestly dont understand the point of side by sides. We have one but its more or less to drag a deer out or move wood on the property, or to go into the swamps to get things. The reason i say i dint understand them is because we have a group near us who dont take them off road. They literally just drive up and down the back roads in convoys. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But for the price of this, and if all im doing is driving on roads id just get a truck lol.

[@Styrkur13]

Is it the same volcanic material? Lava Ledge?

[@joemattes8389]

Wish we could just get the Suzuki Jimnie.

[@mattbergquist4139]

New obstacle name ideas: - Alex’s Chin Chiseler 🤷🏼‍♂️ - Chiseled Chin - The Chin - The Chin Chiseler - The Chin Chopper - The Chin Chipper - The Chipped Chin - Alex’s Chipped Chin - …you get the idea “It’s at my chin basically” as Alex pointed out at 7:38 and will cut into the chin of many a vehicle that approach it head on. Thanks for the fun video!

[@Jasonrcsd]

10:45 wearing a helmet makes my decision an easy one!! 🙄 I could not find anything about wearing a helmet in the Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. 🤔 From the Manual. SAFETY TIPS FOR THE POLARIS XPEDITION Rider safety is Polaris' top priority. Protective gear and safer riding practices reduce the chance of injury. Helmet Wear an approved helmet. Riding in this vehicle without wearing an approved helmet increases the risk of serious injury. For example, a helmet reduces your risk of injury from head strikes with the vehicle or other objects even if there is no crash. Approved helmets in the USA and Canada bear a U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) label.

[@BlackJeepConvertible]

If it’s not a four-door convertible, then it can’t compare

[@Todd66]

I did not think the Polaris would outrun the jeep 🤯 If I was for sure doing 40% or more of my time off roading, I would buy a high end SXS like the Xpedition and a good used truck to pull the SXS. I’ve owned a heavily modified XJ for over 13 years and I would rather have a dedicated rig for play. Xpedition would be awesome, but I would not want a first year of production and when I did buy one it would be used and heavily modified by me or previous owner. LOL Jeeps are amazing fun, luv me sum off road adventuring!

[@mitchsargent5543]

what size lift to fit 35's?! lol!

[@Wrangzilla]

Even if I could drive it on the road, there’s no way I’d even consider trading my JLUR for this….

[@randylenz254]

At this point, can't we all agree Polaris is just a bit too full of themselves? This is nowhere near a good value, and yet they built it because they know their cult will buy it.

[@mikesawyer1336]

How about naming at the pointless pile?

[@northerngunner2756]

I really could use the polaris but just cant choke down the price when I can buy a well equipped mid size truck for the same amount of money.

[@montanaoutdoorsman2300]

For the money, Jeep any day.

[@gregscrivner8003]

I went from Polaris to Can Am to Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and will never go back to anything but another Jeep…my daily driver and trail machine.

[@michaelrocha7159]

Jeeps arent that expensive unless you get the highest trim level possible. 100k is in Rubicon 392 territory. You can get a Jeep JL Sport or Willys that can keep pace with most of what the Rubicon and 392 can do at half the cost and can parallel a sxs at the same price or do even better. In no world is a sxs more cost effective than its Jeep or really any SUV counter part.

[@terryoates7614]

we love watching from Nova Scotia Canada

[@woodyx10]

why does the polaris sound like an RC car going offroad?

[@danthompson2380]

My name suggestion for the last obstacle - ‘the up and over’

[@ericneal1872]

Now do the video where you road trip both of them to Moab and compare the fuel economy. Oh.... wait....

[@Hayven1992]

50k side by side, I think I go with the jeep for the obvious reasons... rather spend 5k or 10k more but you would be street legal, airbags, more comfort, plenty of room for upgrades, could get a used jeep for that price too.... if that polaris would be in the 30k range, absolutely.

[@willrector9716]

Roman's chin should be the name for that obstacle!!

[@kwmulligan]

Polaris is on crack charging $47,000. You can have a Tacoma for that much. Or any midsize truck for that matter

[@TheDon8771]

Looks like the Polaris has a shower option as well 😂😂😂

[@JEREMYBEST-xm7md]

My x3 done all that in 2wd! Might name that gopher mount tiny pimple!

[@fulgar-swastika]

Is it legal to drive on highway?

[@brentharrell]

Breakover Hill would be a good name for that little obstacle.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

LOL. SxS market is 10k or less. The margins Polaris is getting out of boomers is insane.

[@TheBhc4life]

obstacle name , one small step or Apollo ! One small step for Jeep one giant leap for off road vehicles !

[@hummyhero1484]

I cringed when you left that polaris in high range climbing those hills so slow. That belt was screaming for mercy. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Noise level is a bit obnoxious in SxS compared to Jeep but pretty capable otherwise

[@newoluap]

Names for the new obstacle: Tumbleweed Step Stairway to Heaven Pink Floyd or The Wall Mountain From a Mole Hill

[@blkmoon5596]

No it doesn't!!! Ridiculously expensive and your guaranteed to die when it rolls over. And it's very easy to roll over!!!

[@LatersOnTheMenjay.]

Polaris' are basically filling the space that Jeeps and low-budget off-roaders used to occupy, but can no longer satisfy due to on-road safety regulations. It's still overpriced and ugly as sin, but the increase in on-road regulations means that side-by-sides will be the go-to vehicles for recreation and fun.

[@sleeeper88]

They should of picked a 2 seat utv for this test. The 4 seat cars will not do near as well as a 2 seat in trails

[@danb.709]

Just -The final step. It's both figurative and literal.

[@LeesChannel]

Call the new obstacle "The Mound of Venus"