How Much Does the Future Matter?: A Conversation with William MacAskill (Episode

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with William MacAskill about his new book, What We Owe the Future. They discuss the philosophy of effective altruism (EA), longtermism, existential risk, criticism of EA, problems with expected-value reasoning, doing good vs feeling good, why it's hard to care about future people, how the future gives meaning to the present, why this moment in history is unusual, the pace of economic and technological growth, bad political incentives, value lock-in, the well-being of conscious creatures as the foundation of ethics, the risk of unaligned AI, how bad we are at predicting technological change, and other topics.
William MacAskill is an Associate Professor in Philosophy and Research Fellow at the Global Priorities Institute, University of Oxford. He is one of the primary voices in a philanthropic movement known as “effective altruism” and the co-founder of three non-profits based on effective altruist principles: Giving What We Can, 80,000 Hours, and the Centre for Effective Altruism. He is also the Director of the Forethought Foundation for Global Priorities Research and the author of Doing Good Better: Effective Altruism and a Radical New Way to Make a Difference.
Website: williammacaskill.com
Twitter: @willmacaskill
Released: August 14, 2022
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[@ilikedabeans9971]

Is this the same sam harris that gloated about censoring the story about hunter's laptop?

[@EvasiveDuck]

Yep

[@stooch66]

Yup, whatever it takes to win elections. You heard it from the greatest “intellectual” of our time.

[@oncho1960]

At that point it's not winning...it's stealing

[@Sh0rtsYT]

@@oncho1960 I think they prefer the phrase “fortifying” the election

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

@@Sh0rtsYT pizza box fortifications

[@aks1993kumar]

Far left wing nutjob

[@BoyX138]

Did you think intellect mattered in politics?

[@Cyberdactyl]

Harris has now derailed his career. My jaw dropped when he suggested he would sacrifice the lives of small children to derail Trump. Utterly off the rails deranged on a whole different level. Wow.

[@rogerdana7950]

He is sick in the head. He has always been sick just liike the libs of today. I'm an indipendent and I used to enjoy hearing both sides, but this guy has turned for the worst. Im starting to think Trump is right.

[@donthaveaname15]

He should never have been taken seriously in the first place. He's a man who believes that we are nothing more than predetermined actions based off our neurons making decisions for us before we think it. He's a fraud.

[@miner6ty9er]

That sounds absurd. When did he say that. Because that is gross.

[@yuriyakorevsky4237]

Yeah man I agree 100%, it really makes you think cuz I used to read his books and everything and it's all complete bs if some idiot like Trump can make him crazy

[@Nesendrea]

Seriously, why do you people still listen to him? It’s been years since he attracted your kind with frequent criticisms of Islam. If you think he’s so “deranged” over your cult leader then move on. It’s just masochism at this point.

[@redp5883]

Every single villain thinks they're the good guy.

[@inertiaspinner555]

If you don’t die the hero you’ll live long enough to become the villain

[@bellezavudd]

Trumps always say in hes the best guy , must be the worst villian

[@esser7678]

This guy has lost his credibility. If he has the courage to get it right and not apologise but just accept that what he said about the childrens and democracy was absolutely nuts

[@rfuzzybearx1792]

Exactly

[@Ourimbah2258]

@Bob Robert he did once on Islam; which makes his current outrageous comments about not just Trump but democracy so much worse.

[@geniejack9709]

What he said was vile and sick he will never have any credibility ever again how could he

[@extracrispywally2892]

Big fan of yours since I found ya on Rogan, until about a few hours ago. Glad you finally slipped and showed your true self.

[@noseyparker6969]

Not the only one, me too.

[@UsDiYoNa]

Same.

[@madmaxx5612]

Lower than whale crap in a 2 dollar suit.

[@countrypower3332]

Likewise....what a pos

[@natalievu4399]

I always preferred Christopher Hitchens when I was this edgy Atheist. Harris is so monotone. There's no passion behind his words.

[@manatteegiggles7743]

How can anyone take you seriously after your latest podcast?

[@aristotleolympiada4540]

99% of comments on here are negative about Harris. He will still not reexamine his positions. He will still not admit that he made some mistakes "unpacking" certain things and topics. The meditator with the most fixed mindset.

[@bourne817]

He definitely won’t when we have hyperbolic people like you saying 99% of the comments are negative.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

RIP Sam Harris. Guess we won't be submitting to Nihilism, Atheism and Socialism afterall :(

[@natalievu4399]

He is arrogant & condescending. He thinks he is above everyone.

[@ferrumignis]

@@bourne817 What do you think the percentage is? The vast majority of these comments are not flattering to Harris, it's blatantly obvious that he is mentally unhinged when it comes to Trump.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

His career is over.

[@tonyhawkification]

Dead children ain’t no thing

[@tommydavidwalker2445]

This channel is now a Comedy channel. Sam made that happen, nobody else. I wonder if your kids got handled by ppl similar to HB how you'd feel? How's California?

[@memyselfandi8544]

Here’s what Sam is missing. A quick ethical framework straight from Jesus Christ. 1. Love God with all your heart. 2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. That’s it. Solves all problems. Everything falls into place. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@spearsinspines]

@@memyselfandi8544 tell that to all his followers

[@memyselfandi8544]

@@spearsinspines The secular have no foundation such as this, and spiritually they are defenseless from demons which lead people into ethical traps and spiritual snares.

[@frankkockritz5441]

Sam must have ingested the wrong mushrooms. My jaw dropped when I watched his clip and what he stated equivocating the crack head, Hunter Biden. If only Christopher Hitchens were still here to “Hitch Smack” Sam and instantly deflate his oversized ego. Will never, ever watch another podcast or read another news story if his deluded mind is a participant. Wow. Is all I have to think as a reaction.

[@darksideblues135]

Sam Harris would probably be a willing participant.

[@BrownCookieBoy]

Sam harris just took a lot of space on the fringe left, making him push people to the right. Good job Harris. You really show whats wrong with your side. Lack of principles.

[@kentjensen4504]

EXACTLY. They truly don't see it.

[@edenzero8064]

And morals

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@edenzero8064 they are the same thing. but people like to pretend if they give up there principles they somehow keep there morals.

[@Sidiciousify]

You are truly lost then.

[@Fabric_Hater]

Censoring factual information in order for your preferred candidate is a stated principal of his.

[@pwned2ice]

I think Sam Harris should stay out of politics.

[@OYXOT]

No but you see, it doesn't matter 😂😂

[@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090]

If he's gonna be a shill, than his opinion means nothing in that area. So to rational humans, he is already out of politics as his opinion there is not worth considering any longer.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

And public policy.

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

I think Sam should be a fiction writer. Has no spine. He a troll

[@mikeflannery7905]

@@c.a.mcneil7599 you're a troll

[@TobiasPatrick]

Sad day, I lost a lot of respect for Sam Harris. I dislike Trump but what Sam Harris espoused in that interview is far more dangerous to Democracy and our Republic than Donald Trump. He shouldn't bother speaking to logic and reason in the future.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

Thank you! I never liked Trump either, but I'm not part of the TDS cult. I care about democracy and election integrity, but when I speak up, I get insults hurled at me and accused of being a "Trumper." Sam Harris is one of the leaders of the TDS cult. He has caused extensive damage.

[@JaiRambo]

Wtf are you talking about? We are in the process of figuring out if trump committed Treason or not. Sam was right about him from the begining and has been very consistent. If you really arent a trump supporter sams usual hyperbole wouldnt trigger you like this.

[@Alnivol666]

@@JaiRambo It is easy. He didn't. The obsession with making Jan 6 a thing is again part of some pathology on the left. The amount of effort people who hate Trump invest in these sort of narratives is concerning. Biden's affairs are so much worse yet nobody seems to want to investigate anything.

[@PILGRIMM72]

@@JaiRambo “in the process of figuring it out”. You should focus on that part right there. The “in the process” part specifically. Like when we were told Trump colluded with Russia to steal an election, ya know, we had to “figure it out”. Like when we were told the Hunter Biden “laptop story” was Russian disinformation, ya know, we had to “figure it out”. See where I am going with this? I don’t like Trump but most of us have “figured out” that the media and certain branches of the government are being weaponized. This is how things work in third world countries. This should concern everyone regardless of how you feel about Trump. Those of us with principles understand this concept. Those of you who don’t are guilty of being that of which you have accused Trump of being from the start…….a FACIST!

[@TobiasPatrick]

@@JaiRambo Harris supported the ends justifying the means to get rid of someone you don't like politically. I did not think I would ever hear something like that from Sam Harris. I want to ask him what is off limits at this point? I did not vote for Trump either election and I dislike the maga crowd cult of personality due excesses such as the Jan 6th debacle. They commit their damage to the country out in the open. Sam Harris and his ilk would do the same damage to the underpinnings of our Republic behind the scenes and through proxy. Just as dangerous to democracy if not more so than an unhinged mob because they do it with clear conscious and sense of moral superiority.

[@roystonrubble7103]

"Murdering children is ok when I say so" Sam Harris

[@GTOberfest]

Yup the ends justify the means rationale or i should say lack of rationale.

[@memyselfandi8544]

Secularism. It’s a circle that stabs you in your own back.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@GTOberfest it is rational its what happens when your remove morality you can "rationalize" any action with enough ad hoc.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

It's not okay, but Trump University is worse...😂🤣😅😅😁🙄

[@ahklys1321]

You scare easily don't you. He was being facetious. The people up in arms over this play right into it. He's probably laughing at it. I would be.

[@moenibus]

Thank you for letting us know who you really are. And what are your ethical values. You're less than dirt.

[@visicircle]

relax. He's under enormous pressure to submit to the establishment and adopt their narrative. A little bit of it might leak in to his head, but almost everything else he speaks upon he does so rationally. Be glad that there's someone who is even capable of that; cause if Sam Harris isn't a clear thinker, who is?

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

@@visicircle anyone who is able to rationalize censorship was never that rational to begin with. i never found sam harris to be impressive. his beliefs seem quite pedestrian, and now i understand why, he's a mediocre thinker.

[@weevie_stilfat]

@@visicircle quit copy/pasting. You're either a bot or an npc, pick one.

[@visicircle]

@@cagneybillingsley2165 Dude, there are people who are *wrong* on the internet! I don't want one thread to miss out on the wisdom I'm dropping in another one...

[@yuriyakorevsky4237]

@@visicircle LOL emotional pressure yeah but this was the guy who was supposed to be telling other people how to deal with emotional pressure right

[@JP-vb4ky]

Can’t understand how Sam “the intellectual” only criticizes one side of the political system.

[@sorrowsharvest7891]

....he's educated but not an intellectual, he's a shill

[@----.__]

@@sorrowsharvest7891 Did you see the Triggernometry podcast? He's not even close to educated.

[@memyselfandi8544]

The secular are blind.

[@cybervigilante]

I was a 50 year Dem, still don't like many GOP policies, but I also realize the Dems are for shit. It takes a while to recover from Groupthink.

[@memyselfandi8544]

@@cybervigilante Don’t get confused. It’s not about D vs R. That’s a distraction. It’s about insiders vs outsiders. Bush and Romney are insiders. Biden and Obama are insiders. Both are Freemasons. Evil occult insiders. Trump MTG and Gaetz are outsiders.

[@CipherBay]

You said the quiet part out loud Sam. This is the mindset of all TDS Liberals. Willing to ignore dead children in the basement of his candidate for the sake of taking down Trump... truly disgusting and eye opening.

[@chriswhite6937]

How is that disgusting?

[@CipherBay]

@@chriswhite6937 Bye Bot.

[@kimberly5946]

R.I.P. Sam Harris 8/18/2022 Gravestone reads:Died of TDS

[@TimDeadmenVP]

That and ligma took so many.

[@benvandam369]

Bahahhahhahaha EPIC 🤣🤣🤣

[@memyselfandi8544]

Perfect. Wow, the bots are going nuts. Sam must be connected.

[@cybervigilante]

It's why the Dems are deadset against the idea of mass formation psychosis, since so many of them have it.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

lol funny... we've lost so many to this pandemic

[@contactdaniel24]

Fascism at its purest. If I wasn’t voting for trump before, I sure am now

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

Ironically, American Fascism can only come from the Left, as Conservatives stop at the Constitutional founding of the Republic, which is specifically designed to prevent radicalism on both sides. I suppose this is a benefit of having a young constitutional republic that it comes with a road block in one direction due to lack of history in a previous era.

[@norrie007]

Don’t bullshit, you were always voting for Drumpf.

[@vinylrichie007]

You can’t be pro censorship and anti fascist.

[@darksu6947]

Sure he can! Because he said so!

[@vinylrichie007]

@@darksu6947 I say lots of shit. It doesn’t make it true.

[@darksu6947]

@@vinylrichie007 That went right over your head didn't it?

[@vinylrichie007]

@@darksu6947 Kind of. I thought you were being sarcastic but with printed text it is sometimes hard. And I’m a dumb ass.

[@darksu6947]

@@vinylrichie007 It's cool dude. I have moments where I question my intelligence and my decision making skills. Don't be so hard on yourself my dude.

[@interman7715]

After Mr Harris's comments about Trump and his refusal to acknowledge the crimes of the Biden family I no longer consider him credible in any capacity.

[@GTOberfest]

I figured that out years ago. But better late than never

[@user-cz4zu4hx8m]

He’s been sick with TDS for quite some time. He made the similar comments about hunter biden in an interview with Douglas Murray a while back and made himself a complete fool. What can I say? Sad to know Trump is the one that broke Sam Harris and his “rational mind”.

[@visicircle]

relax. He's under enormous pressure to submit to the establishment and adopt their narrative. A little bit of it might leak in to his head, but almost everything else he speaks upon he does so rationally. Be glad that there's someone who is even capable of that; cause if Sam Harris isn't a clear thinker, who is?

[@weevie_stilfat]

@@visicircle you act like what he said was in ANY way rational thinking.

[@higB0x05]

There is hope. Sam could come around. I hope he wakes up.

[@ham5483]

Trump broke and exposed many of these so called "intellectuals" 😂

[@travismcclymans5487]

The Trump curse strikes again. Many such cases.

[@atedinahalf6288]

@@travismcclymans5487 It's not a curse, it's just cleaning a fish tank. The shit has always been there, it's just floating to the top now.

[@sim8700]

what

[@buildthewallwiththewoke6196]

You pushed people further right. Good job!

[@memyselfandi8544]

Righteousness is right.

[@gamezonereactions8388]

It's all crumbling down and they are in panic mode.

[@ciannadinh]

I also think this is a deliberately move to save the country. who knows!

[@BackwoodsBeastTV]

The more people with TDS Makes me like the guy more and I never even wanted to be THIS involved with politics to begin with

[@philswede]

God bless from Sweden!

[@kerravon4159]

Sam has always been afflicted by chronic TDS and people have always suspected that it might negatively affect his rationality and ability to think logically. But now we have solid, unequivocal proof. Sad really.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

I would say the same for his take on Christianity. He was publicly accused once of only touching low-hanging fruit, and I would have to agree.

[@kerravon4159]

@@BTSArmy-ge5gf I always thought his views on religion made perfect sense, but honestly when anyone becomes so blatantly irrational with their TDS, you have to wonder whether *everything* else they've said in the past *really* makes sense too. He's basically wrecked decades of his own credibility with his relentless TDS insanity.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

My point being he's never presented an honest representation of either Christianity nor Trump, using motivated reasoning to bolster a biased perspective and a largely uncharitable representation.

[@gamezonereactions8388]

The question now becomes, how much did he profit from it?

[@wilmagregg3131]

it totally discrideted everything about him his whole premise and idea was "relgion is not nessarcy to be moral" and then he literally does this "it is moral to push my poltics no matter what evil must be done to do so" proving hes a massive hypocrite who just replaced faith in the supernatural with faith in a idealogy.

[@11Nosferatu11]

I've never believed in book burnings but I'm taking my Sam Harris books camping with me this weekend and using them as tinder for my fire...

[@miner6ty9er]

Dang. Why. If a man spreaks foolish once does that make all content created from null.

[@yuriyakorevsky4237]

Well they are basically useless if you consider what he's doing now and everything he wrote about being a direct contradiction so what's the point in Reading any of it you're 100% right it was always the time

[@11Nosferatu11]

@@miner6ty9er I've already read them. I just won't be passing them on to anyone. I don't respect liberal elites who want authoritarian rule over us peasants because they know what's good for us. I've read enough Orwell to know where that leads.

[@memyselfandi8544]

Hopefully more folks question the establishment, such as Sam.

[@RyanLongArt]

Sam doesn't approve, but only because they're his books; not based on any underlying principles.

[@LordoftheReedyRiver]

Hey Sam, I think you might need a new gig. I hear CNN are looking to replace Stelter. You should give them a call.

[@stevenmartinellimusic]

What a major disappointment Sam Harris has become.

[@memyselfandi8544]

The bots are furious.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

@@memyselfandi8544 You wish they were bots. Look around the next time you're shopping for your granola at your local grocer. Just imagine how many of those individuals are actually conservative. Oohhh. Scary! We're everywhere. Everywhere.

[@memyselfandi8544]

@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Sorry Doctor. I’m a Christian. I only came here to look for the intellectually bankrupt, hoping to plant the seed of redemption. The bots I’m referring to are the pornbots sent to harass sensible discord. The Masonic demons do the same thing on 4Chan and it’s disgusting. Democrats ..

[@CJ-nd9gg]

I think he was referring to the comment just above his own as a joke

[@SenaPt]

I used to be a paying subscriber, I loved your ideas with Christopher Hitchens back in 2009, loved your arguments against Ben Affleck… but now I see you cristalized in a bubble… and is just sad. You need to talk to more conservatives and why they like Trump. Get out of you elitist ivory tower.

[@casebarreoltt5990]

FYI maybe half the Trump supporters I meet are not conservative per SE. Lots of ex Dems who hate neoconism EVEN MORE now.

[@Daniel-zv4to]

@@casebarreoltt5990 same

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

I'd like to believe it's that innocent, though it would hardly redeem him.

[@wendaltvedt4673]

Used to really respect this guy. I just LOST ALL RESPECT for Sam Harris.

[@ancientlord7695]

I love when they take off the mask and start showing the masses who they have always been.

[@themeangene]

Fortified elections are good - Sam Harris and Times magazine

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

@@themeangene they are already stacking pizza boxes to fortify the upcoming elections

[@oncho1960]

Lost all respect for Sam..... I am glad he revealed himself....good work Konstantin

[@joelopez3528]

I'm surprised he still has this many subscribers.

[@dash_r_media]

Give it time

[@hsmd4533]

I’m not. There are a lot of elite shit libs that agree with and think just like him.

[@frankkockritz5441]

Uh…not for long, commencing the moment people watched this clip. I cancelled mine. I assume most will,do the same. If he wanted to bring back Captain Kangaroo, I might reconsider. In the meantime, a total loss of any and all credibility. Hope he saved his money.

[@dash_r_media]

LOL KZbin hides dislikes, but there are add-ons showing the dislikes. Even in this environment, the ratio is more than 2-to-1 dislike. Love it

[@frankkockritz5441]

Ladies & gentlemen, I introduce to you, Sam Harris. The new Michael Avenatti. Maybe he can run for POTUS. Liz Chaney, his VP running mate 2024

[@DMac-uk7mc]

Sam I got bad news for you. Anytime you use the dead kids in the basement example, you've lost the argument.

[@CJ-nd9gg]

To be fair, that’s a very specific rule :p

[@joshuaalvarez2292]

Jesus Sam. Been listening for years. But going full frigging fascist... dude. You have become what you speak out against. You've lost your way, and your arrogance about being high minded about it is really losing me. You need to rethink things my man. You've become the hypocrite

[@Mike-sp7zv]

You just described antifa

[@neoarmour]

You literally fired yourself LOL

[@stormbringer_7774]

Hitchens was right, we are paying for the rope that chokes us🤔🇬🇧🙌

[@spainhourland]

I used to think of Sam Harris as one of the last intellectuals that identify contradictions and was principal base. Now hearing how he is willing to abandon all principles and is willing to commit the same unethical political atrocities that he has the contradictory nerve to cue someone else now makes me believe he is a.... Douche bag. What a fake. 🙄

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

seems to be the era of unmasking

[@oncho1960]

He is a fake

[@mitchjames9350]

He isn’t a real neurologist as he loves to bring up he only did a phd on cognitive neurology and never majored in it.

[@hatepaste]

Authoritarian is about to get a new definition I bet.

[@Bidetdouche]

Thank you for being so brutally honest in your recent interview on Trump. Shows your true colors. Pretty disgusting, but it is good to know what kind of person we are dealing with here. Amazing that you revealed so honestly to your position. Rather dead corpses of children than a guy in the white house that you don't like. Pretty evil. And on top of that a coward to back peddle your statements the next day.

[@schoolsfan3719]

Because he isn't very smart. Obviously he thought that the majority of people think how he thinks and despises Trump as much as he does. Which isn't true.

[@FHBStudio]

@@schoolsfan3719 He stepped out of his echo chamber for 1 interview and immediately came crashing down. It's quite amazing.

[@ryansmith-kd3xm]

Hey Sam, since Biden has been in office things have been considerably harder for me and my family. I know recessions and inflation don't hurt rich leftists but paying twice as much for gas and a third more in food really hurts a working class family. You're to out of touch and emotional when it comes to Trump.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

Yeah but, Trump University....😂🤣😅🙄🙄🙄

[@CJ-nd9gg]

Boo hoo “i like children and democracy” grow up

[@leehamilton4459]

It wouldn't have mattered who sat in that oval office as we were coming out of a pandemic. The supply chain was so fatally wounded the suffering would have been the same. I'm neither a democrat nor a republican but I do know that when they tried to pass some laws to get the gas prices under control, the majority of the republicans in office voted no.

[@desertfroggo2502]

You're pretty simple for blaming all those problems on the president and thinking Trump can somehow fix all that.

[@ryansmith-kd3xm]

@@desertfroggo2502 yes its just a giant coincidence that the economy was better the 4years between Obama and Biden

[@TheRsbas]

Why do smart guys always have to prove how stupid they are?

[@visicircle]

The nail that sticks out gets hammered down

[@gobrandon]

I used to like to listen to you. You seemed to ´make (some) sense´. But please don´t use drugs again during interviews. I feel sorry for you that you´ve ruined your career. Glad to see your true nature. It´s revealing. Wish you lots of wisdom mate.

[@AdamSpanier]

Do whatever it takes to win. - Sam Harris... And some guy in Germany in the 1930s.

[@wilmagregg3131]

and stalin and mao and polpot and genghis khan and every erial killer and erial wapis in history.

[@blombidobadila8084]

@@wilmagregg3131 Stopping Mao, Hitler, Trump, Stalin......whatever it takes, was Sam's point!

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@blombidobadila8084 you do realise all the people you listed thought the SAME WAY right? mao convinced himself he was creating utopia and any bodies fallen were nessarcy noble sacrifices for said future. mitler was convinced the smolhats were geuinly the source of all ills and struggles thus he was the righteous hero in his mind doing what others were to weak to accomplish. genghis khan saw his rule over the universe as a divine destiny that would bring utopia to all so ANY action would be moral in that attempt hence he created ERROR WARFARE and rwoded so many wahmon hes still realted to a quarter of humanity directly today. when you say "end justifys the means" then you are opening the door to be PURE EVIL because you loose sight of WHY things are good and evil in the first place. and really comparing trump to any of those figures is childishly delusional SHOW ME want rump did that made this country worse off thern Captain potatohead whos currently vegetating in the oval office.

[@blombidobadila8084]

@@wilmagregg3131 Similiar ideas or tactics in that they were all extreme Authoritarians, some left, some centre, some right. Trump is an extreme Authoritarian, although 2017-2020 was not quite as bad as these more infamous characters, but he was getting there with his no more democracy, all news is fake news, I'm the supreme leader approach. He gets compared to Amin a lot! USA lost its 1st world status under Trump and went from about 16th to 30th in the nation state rankings. Trump is ranked 45/45 by the experts, which is generous. Electing the 'Al Capone' of NYC not a great idea! If you don't think the ends justify the means you are an idiot. If someone can kill one person to save a million this is evil, according to you. Did you not go to college, study rudimentary ethics, rational analysis1?

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@blombidobadila8084 sorry i have MORALS i dont belive in that "no bad actions only bad targets" evil trash. ends justify the means just means "i feel like im good so i can do what ever evil i want on people i think are bad". its just a excuse to do evil things and PRAISE YOURSELF FOR IT instead of feeling geuinly awefull you had to order something bad to happen cause it was nessary.

[@Mister_Skar]

Remember when religous people thought their religion not being in control of the world was like an asteroid hurtling towards earth? Or how people like you were dangerous for being atheist? And how that therefore justified looking the other way on anything bad if it resulted in your eradication?? Does that sound familiar Sam?

[@wilmagregg3131]

it proves there is no negative contation to relgion that cant be applied to idealogy. which boils "righteous" atheists like sams blood as it means he cant automatically feel inteluctually and morally superior to all relgious people.

[@psyience3213]

💯

[@Tribynal]

how sick are you to say that the corpses of children would not bother you

[@kjones532]

The first rule of being in a hole is to stop digging. Holy moly.

[@slayterx7318]

I use to listen to you. but honestly I can say your "logical" take on morality it laughable. the fact that you can say with a straight face that it doesn't matter what Hunter Biden did as long as we get trump out is so hypocritical. Shouldn't it be that it doesn't matter who you are or what you believe or what political scope you are part of, if you break the law you break the law? I liked how atheist seemed to have a neutral view on reality "show me proof and I can adjust my view point accordingly". Its become more and more clear that is not the case. Maybe I should go back to church..... they seem less crazy now days! lol

[@deanmadden123]

Amen

[@ham5483]

Yes, everyone in america needs to go back to church

[@wilmagregg3131]

unironically i would suggest so even if you aint beliver and aint planning too become one local small churches seem to be the biggest gathers of sane non extreme people left in soceity these days well in public uncensored anyway. its sad your more likely to get better socializeing at the church these days then any bar or online forum.

[@slayterx7318]

No joke! I went from mid ground Christian conservative to liberalish non believer. Now the last two years the left have gone so far off the deep end they don't make any sense any more. the whole logic argument they flaunted for so long doesn't seem to matter any longer. its like logic matters when they want it too but now I see atheist more or less follow a particular political position. whether it's all that logical or not. Maybe I made a mistake leave to begin with..... I'm at least open minded enough to consider that lol.

[@ham5483]

@@slayterx7318 come back whenever you like, youre always welcome

[@DontcallmeaCuck]

Orange man bad ! I’m Sam Harris . Orange 🍊 man bad .

[@internationalgolfconstruction]

It’s Amazing how even in the best thinkers, feelings Trump principles. Most of us are so weak despite what we espouse.

[@ChemicalOly]

He's a totalitarian and would destroy the West based on ill founded feeling just like a Muslim extremist would.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

the future matters insofar as people like sam harris can justify and rationalize the establishment's ability to censor dissent

[@MrBeautifulmountain]

@@cagneybillingsley2165 What is he censoring? And what does that matter for the future?

[@ChemicalOly]

@@MrBeautifulmountain he said the corporate media and big tech were right to censor information regarding Hunter Biden's laptop, artificially changing public opinion thus changing the outcome of an election. He believes Trump is the equivalent to an asteroid on a collision course with earth. By that rational anything is morally acceptable to keep him out of office!

[@internationalgolfconstruction]

@Momma Mia, Dats A Spicy Meatball I was trying to be polite.

[@nate6539]

Just goes to show you that the biggest always falls the hardest.

[@lastdescendants1]

Congrats Sam. You went full clown shoes

[@CJ-nd9gg]

Never go full clown shoes

[@scrubfive9239]

Just a reminder that the man who does not believe in God also believes that it is okay to be corrupt as long as it's a Democrat.

[@koruoverland]

Your interview on the Trigger Nometry podcast should go down on a Master Class of how to destroy self destroy an established reputation. What a sad person you've become Sam, shame on you!

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

It's scary, really. We're watching unfold the line of reasoning which has always characterized America's enemies.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

George Orwell had a lot to say about intellectuals. So much of it applies to Sam Harris.

[@yuriyakorevsky4237]

PROBABLY SHOULD CHANGE THE NAME TO NOT MAKING SENSE . I had respect for you til a saw how trump caused a complete change in you. I feel sorry for you Sam 😔

[@J.Tronix]

Wow, Sam is deep in the propraganda

[@seesidesummerhouse6112]

How’s that notion that truth is absolute working for you, Sam? I suppose trifling things like election integrity do not pass your test?

[@countdebleauchamp]

Coming from someone who probably ignores attempts to establish 'election integrity ' by strong - arming a State Secretary for 11780 votes.

[@fritztopher]

I’m black and you convinced me to vote for trump

[@leehamilton4459]

Well just don't try to rent from him because back in the seventies Trump devised a system on rental applications, so they knew it was a black person applying.....they would deny them all. So if that is the type of person you would vote for you are voting against your own well being.

[@fritztopher]

@@leehamilton4459 that shit don’t got nothing to do with me anecdotal crap , the past two years have been all I needed media lies , and deception covering for Biden but trump is the criminal ,

[@dom3073]

youre not smart, if you think Trump loves black people.

[@donnaw9040]

Thank you for helping Trump and his “cult”.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

Winning!

[@oncho1960]

Latino for Trump!

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

He actually exposed the TDS cult.

[@JB-ti7bl]

Sam Harris: A man who has built his whole career on truth and rationality, yet showed his hand on the Triggernometry podcast. Lies and censorship are just fine, Sam says, as long as the guy I want as president wins. Truly pathetic.

[@jonw3462]

And to put in Biden of all people too. Just wow For an intellect to even vote for that guy and be happy about it is wild.

[@geniejack9709]

The nerve of it now after what Biden has done - just unreal. What a depraved loony he is zero credibility now absolute zero

[@lizp5004]

He def showed his ass w/this last bout, but he's been showed his hand w/his ridiculous covid takes &how he slandered Brett& Heather. Something he's yet to publicly (or privately) "correct the record on".

[@jordanmasuccio]

It makes me sad how truly irrational trump makes Sam Harris. Sam used to be my “what would Jesus do” for rationality, but now it’s more like “what is the exact opposite. I just wish Sam would go on a meditation retreat, come home then realise how terrible he’s been acting, we love you Sam, there’s a reason people comment, they’re your fans, they’re just jaded and disappointed over the years of TDS making you break your own fundamental principles/morals.

[@ym5891]

Trump is a great man, because he exposes these fascist individuals to us. Sam Harris is basically advocating for a modern Gestapo.

[@wilmagregg3131]

it undermines everything hes ever said escially sense he got so big of the premise "morals without relgion" now he literally shows hes willing to throw them away at the drop of a hat hes so bitter and spitefull yeah that "mediation" and dwugs SURE seems to be helpin.

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

He's caused too much damage. His career is over.

[@catalyst3713]

I'm afraid his credibility may be irreversibly destroyed at this point.

[@jezzd4116]

37,000+ VIEWS ONLY 800 LIKES SAYS WHERE YOUR CAREER IS GOING .SEE YA BLONK!

[@arthurmattos3618]

Jordan Peterson has advised us about those guys. When only the reason has been used and it reaches the roof, authoritarianism is the only outcome.

[@user-em9su3dd9y]

Hi Sam. Grew up on you and Hitches, Dawkins and others. You guys introduced a healthy dose of skepticism into my life. Your recent comments and double down were telling and extremely disappointing. Your religiously aggressive TDS to the point of sounding kinda fascistic is a bit devastating. Everyone disappoints you eventually right? No one is perfect but God damn... Pro tip kids, don't evangelize anyone.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

Now consider that his attack on Trump is identical to his attack on Christianity, and you will see that he hasn't changed, only unmasked.

[@user-em9su3dd9y]

@@BTSArmy-ge5gf struggling to see the difference yeah

[@jasondolan7181]

When you refer to shoes dropping, is that the children’s shoes in Hunter’s proverbial basement? You’ve lost your mind Sam.

[@ryanharris9585]

You might want to change the podcast to “Making Cents” after this week.

[@mitchelljack1590]

Sam clearly signed up to Trump University and hasn’t forgotten it

[@----.__]

You have an impressive beard for someone with the mind of a 6 year old.

[@darnytoads]

Modern life is strange. The entire global economy is founded upon a gamble that tomorrow more money and-or resources will be available, but if you mention future generations or sustainability, nah, too flimsy.

[@ulkairvillan3219]

Money is a tool for comerce, so long as the regulators dont f it up it will be good. Resources and scarcity can always be overcome by man's endless ingenuity. If not we just make do with less. But there is easily enough food and minerals enough for the 14 billion people (projected pop peak) that will inhabit the earth

[@unflickable]

Why all the shock? Sam's severe TDS is no secret, and sooner or later he was bound to go too far.

[@drmattbarnes1371]

At least for me it was because I had not been forced to see it out in the open like that. I had to 180° on my opinions about Sam. 😔

[@RaquelSantos-hj1mq]

I never expected to hear it out loud.

[@darksu6947]

Going, going, gone!

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

They always say you sacrifice today for a better tomorrow. But I didn't know they meant today's poor people for tomorrow's rich people.

[@jacobvanveit3437]

The masses won’t stand for it. Rome will burn!

[@wasdwasdedsf]

like the people in the past sacrificed for the people today?

[@danolivier4899]

@@wasdwasdedsf materialism has not made people happier today than any other time in history

[@RyanLongArt]

Well they do mean that, especially liberals.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

"you will own nothing and you will be happy" aka someone controls everything its just not you lol

[@imrael496]

Tuns out Sam suffers from a terminal case of TDS.

[@benjaminwilson6734]

I wish I could have enjoyed this podcast but I couldn't help thinking "why isn't Sam asking him about Hunter Bidens laptop?".. 🤔

[@ishmaelforester9825]

It's fundamentally about family and the land. People care about the future, sacrifice a lot for it, if they are breeding large cuddly families and farm. It is genuinely about blood and soil. Modern urbanites do not give a shit because they're not doing that.

[@TeaPartyActivist]

“Holding off on your comments“ does not appear to be then your talent. But it does very much expose a general lack of objectivity in our greater world. Self adorned superiority often gets in the way clear vision, especially towards those who possess superiority as recognized by a wide variety of sources.

[@AmericanTestConstitution]

Sam, go help the government take everyone's guns away. Go open the border to all U.S. Citizens. I mean, you're not biased at all. You are all objective. You're so wise and smart . . .

[@blombidobadila8084]

Sam is pro guns! As are the Democrats! Pay attention!

[@Nobushido]

Proof positive that a genius isn't immune to psy-op programming.

[@jarontalotta]

"I heard they had headaches"

[@bellezavudd]

Sure, which genius do you speak of ?

[@oceanicfeeling3135]

Sam wtf? I was frankly stunned by your recent comments. Stay away from politics and stick to what you know.

[@clarkkent3809]

Wow...the comment section. Dayum!

[@jiwany]

unsubbed. he outed and cancelled himself. he doubled down and dug in deeper on twitter rather than reflecting. There is no hope for this man.

[@anotheryoutube4635]

You’re the exact opposite of a genius. Thanks for exposing yourself.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

He may well be a genius, but it doesn't mean he uses it for good.

[@anotheryoutube4635]

@@BTSArmy-ge5gf You cannot sit there and say what he said on Trig and claim to be a logical person, sorry. He exposed himself 100% as being just another person with an agenda. He went all in on being political rather than scientific.

[@BTSArmy-ge5gf]

@@anotheryoutube4635 I agree. He cloaks himself in championing rationality in order to prey on his audience. He is nefarious and uses his intelligence as a weapon. He can be both nefarious and a genius... though he clearly let his mask slip completely off here and he's now found out for all to see.

[@mollenamartinez1357]

I am so sorry for you Sam. I thought that you were a critical thinker, my condolences to your lack of intellect.

[@philswede]

Greetings from Sweden. You should be ashamed of yourself for your comments Harris. Will never watch your podcast again. I'm so disappointed.

[@chippinround5909]

Mr. Harris, I have followed you since the Christopher Hitchens days. I would encourage you to think deeply, beyond your own political stance, on how disgusting what you said truly was and what Mr. Hitchens would say to you about that. Your own personal distain for Trump is so overwhelming that you see no issue with our Current Presidents son having, "dead children in his basement". I respect you greatly as an author, and I hope you wake up, and see the bigger picture.

[@wilmagregg3131]

hes proved hes nothing but a snake he literally said he never cared about the thing he built his carrer on "ETHICS WITHOUT RELGION" well sam your really not helping the belif so many have about atheists that they "are immoral hypocrites who merely replace relgion with idealogy"

[@seesidesummerhouse6112]

I’ve followed him since he rose to fame following his appearance on Bill Maher, where he schooled Ben Affleck. I’ve been a subscriber since, and I’ve watched his series with JP several times. I’ve lost all respect for him now, if election integrity, democracy, truth, justice and the American way of life means nothing to him, then he means nothing to me. Some people may stick with him, and that’s fine, but I’ve unsubscribed.

[@hsmd4533]

@@seesidesummerhouse6112 spot on

[@mountainair]

We need more Will M's in the world

[@somedohavethem]

Stay true to your message, Mr Harris, The unjaded and unbiased listen to your words with great thought and introspection. You cast light with your views & opinions not yet even considered by the muggles of this world. Much like many great intellectuals, past and present, the resistance or reluctantcy of the masses to accept new views is exactly why they can be convinced and controlled with our current societal fallacies. We emplaw you to continue on this journey as it inspires so many others to start or continue theirs. 👊👍✨️

[@TennesseeJed]

Thanks for the whole pod a freebie for us KZbinrs!

[@michaelfried3123]

I ran into Charlie Fog, blackened my eye and he kicked my dog. My dog he turned to me and he said, let's head back to Tennessee Jed.

[@jonathanprice7157]

It took one of his equals to nearly get stabbed to death to make it 'free'...

[@mountainair]

@@michaelfried3123 honey come quick with the iodine

[@michaelfried3123]

@@mountainair I figured I wasn't the only Deadhead subbed to this podcast. :)

[@mountainair]

@@michaelfried3123 you find us in the strangest of places

[@Nesendrea]

As an avid video gamer, it’s extremely jarring to hear the letters “EA” repeatedly referenced as an optimum moral good.

[@user-gq5cc3gh5h]

😅

[@valroniclehre193]

Same

[@DaleGribble1]

Madden '99 was good

[@tetra6013]

thanks for this full free episode

[@mouselink]

you really blew it sam

[@philosophe5319]

Starts at 11:06

[@mouselink]

HARRIS: it's only democracy if we win.

[@jeromychoe5702]

He was just dumb enough to say the quiet part out loud: he knew the 2020 election was rigged and he doesn't care.

[@davidemmerich9058]

Sam has completely lost it. Not matter where you stand with trump, stepping on the votes of the people is the true danger. As Heisenberg said, “I AM the danger!”

[@DUDEBroHey]

It's such a weird stance especially for someone who claims to value democracy as much as he does. That alone negates over ten podcast episodes of his (though all credibility is lost).

[@anthonycarlino4604]

Awesome, went to the Catskills last week, love to seen them on the pod.

[@DuckmanYaHeard]

Sam applauds the journalists saying *“his motive remains a mystery.”*

[@DavidRamos-nz4bh]

Great conversation. We don’t concern ourselves with the future generations yet many worry about their future “ afterlife”.Odd.

[@davebotha9413]

I used to listen to the Waking Up podcast as Sam was help up as a thought leader. When he could no longer complete a podcast without trying to belittle Trump, I realised he was not a thought leader but was trying to lead other people into his beliefs. True leaders present facts, they don't endlessly pontificate their own narrative. Trump is no saint but having babies bodies in the basement is better than Trump - Sam showed his true colours (which are Sick).

[@sim8700]

what are you talking about? the 10 seconds talking about trump?

[@YT2024Hayward]

Much appreciate it. I miss CH very much.

[@tommydavidwalker2445]

So Sam Is now BLOCKING folks on Twitter who make factual statements. This man makes a living judging other humans and he's now blocking humans that have an opinion different from his own. In the voice/words of The Great Jesse Lee Peterson #AMAZING

[@themeangene]

Yep. Him doubling down and refusing to admit he was wrong just confirms that Sam Harris is fine with being an an avatar for ontological evil. He supported intelligence officials lying to help the DNC and their allies censor truthful reporting. He should be done. His career should be over in a just world.

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

Not that amazing really just typical

[@chrisahorne]

Sam blocking people on twitter left and right for rightfully and truthfully calling him out on his TDS, it’s gone terminal. It has effectively killed him. RIP!

[@themeangene]

His career SHOULD BE OVER

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

@@themeangene we are watching it