What I Think About Neuroplasticity Programs

[@elainewalters460]

Regimens and rules mess me all up! I told you what I did last week with that program. I believe in neuroplacticy work, I just have to do what works for me in the moment.

[@mairinr1120]

Awesome video! I started brain retraining before I began tapering & it helped me eliminate migraine days. I then used the same techniques in withdrawal to how I responded to all the symptoms, bc it seemed logical. So even though it didn’t get rid of them, I wasn’t living in fear 24/7. There are principles from it that I find helpful in many life situations. I also like all the resources you recommended, as well as the book The Way Out by Alan Gordon. It was written about pain but he’s since said it can be used for many symptoms. Thank you for talking about this! & I am sorry for the loss of your friend & your other dog.

[@debbiebaymiller9113]

This is super interesting to me. At 2 1/2 yrs off most of my panic, anxiety and inability to go out in the world, on a relatively regular basis, is due to physical pain. Even the mild brain fog isn’t really a big issue. It’s the out & out primal aspect of acute, chronic stomach issues that drive 80% of my BIND trauma. I’m reading a book now called “YOU ARE NOT YOUR PAIN.” It contains a lot of neuroscience explanations of why we react to pain as we do. And then meditations to help with this as well as documentation on how it works. This seems to be another illustration on how to strengthen your neuroplasticity. Neuroplasticity being defined as the brains ability to change & adapt over time in response to experiences. It can involve the brain creating new neurons, building new networks or reorganizing existing ones. We are a constant work in progress with or without damage from Benzos. Of course that just makes it so much more complicated & difficult!

[@Maria-zr7ph]

I find myself in the same spot. Not as much panic, but more physical issues lingering. Makes some things rather difficult to consistently do. I just implement these things when I can and I do benefit from this molded approach!

[@deedeew4040]

I have been binge-watching your videos. Thank you so much for all you contribute to us, you are the real deal. You are so appreciated and a gift to those of us who are suffering.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Thank you for “seeing” me and my heart.

[@susanmorgan4151]

Angie. Thank you so , so much. I found your videos at the lowest time in my life. I had no clue what was happening to me. I believe you saved my life on some level. I spent hours listening to you when sleep was nonexistent. Your descriptions of withdrawal symptoms kept me sane. I'm 14 months out of SSRI bondage. It's much better, still healing.....thank you ,thank you, thank you!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Laura_Critique_Psychiatry]

May I ask how long it took you to taper? I had to reinstate. Will be trying again in a few years but slower for sure. This time I’ll be doing it whilst staying away from any doom and gloom.

[@susanmorgan4151]

​@LJ_Antidepressant101Coaching , It took 6 months for my taper. I would suggest much longer though. It's been brutal , but definitely getting better!❤

[@Laura_Critique_Psychiatry]

@@susanmorgan4151 well done. May I ask how long you had been on them. I’ve worked out about a 2/2.5 year taper to be safe. Xx

[@susanmorgan4151]

​@@Laura_Critique_Psychiatry, yes, I was prescribed Paxil for over 25 years. I applaud your plan for an extended taper. ❤

[@Laura_Critique_Psychiatry]

@@susanmorgan4151 thank you and well done to you. 🙌 I’ll be going for it in the next year or so hopefully this time I’ll get off them. 🙏

[@PenneyJones2911]

One of my worst symptoms has been my vision also. Because of BIND, I have developed convergence insufficiency, where the muscles and nerves in my eyes don't work properly, and my eyes won't focus together properly without having prisms in the lenses of my glasses. I went for almost 2 years where I could not do anything with my eyes, but once this was diagnosed, the glasses helped tremendously. I also have terrible problems with motion distortion. I rarely ever hear of vision problems like ours. I'm sure we will heal in time, that is my prayer.

[@generalrepair8731]

Angie I’m sorry for your loss of your friend😢. I’ve been on a regimen for Boosting Neuroplascticity for 18 months now making great progress. Even sleep has improved by far starting chelation therapy. Angie there is not enough talk about the sleep issues with most channels on KZbin. Your one about the night time peeing a lot has helped me. Getting better. It all basically takes time to heel. ❤

[@susanmorgan4151]

Agreed about the sleep issues!!! That was/is a major issue for me!❤

[@jaclynpeters3892]

Thank you, Angie. 💗

[@Nick-gq2iy]

You have the discipline of being in the service that not many have otherwise, is my thought on it. 🙌🏼🙏🏼♥️💕

[@suemohr545]

Great video! I listen to Pain Free You regularly.

[@laurieclark859]

My issues... this sooo speaks to me. Thanks Angie ❤

[@kmkeenan]

Great video! I have been more actively diving into neuroplasticity content in recent months. Today, I think it was the steady coach who popped up in my KZbin and was talking about how weightlifting is an exercise in neuroplasticity and that she strongly recommends it for dizziness, etc. I have known this intuitively for a while because I feel it in my body, especially when my trainer has me do something new and/or when I switch from one side of the body to the other. It's like I'm stretching my brain. Also, I came across Irene Lyon recently and her approach has been resonating with me. I haven't decided if/when I'll do one of her programs. For now, I'm exploring her free resources and I downloaded a book that she recommended, Nurturing Resilience by Kain and Terrell. I got the audio since reading is still a challenge for me. One of the modalities she's into is Feldenkrais, which is something I've been curious about. My yoga studio offers a class on that so I'm going to try it out.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Yay! You’re doing great doing self-study of what can help and what resonates with you! I actually did that workout yesterday as it resonated with me too. I’ve been strength training for a while and always feel better from it now that I can do it.

[@kmkeenan]

​@AngiePeacockMSW I really want to get out of freeze mode, where I feel like I've been stuck for a long time. It's one of the most distressing parts of this journey for me right now. I know that I've taken steps out of it, just hoping to get myself to do a bit more in the coming months.

[@veryskeptical2409]

Spot on Angie.,

[@kingy231]

Thank you, I needed to hear this today

[@Nick-gq2iy]

Thanks for this video. I’m gonna check out your resources! 🙏🏼♥️💕 I hope that Mad-In-America class went well! 🤞🏼

[@kmkeenan]

Also, I wanted to say I'm so sorry about the loss of your friend. Losing someone is hard enough without adding violence into the mix.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Awe thank you Kat. 💜 it was really sad for so many of us.

[@heatherinCT]

You're an inspiration

[@DeniseHurd-qm7id]

You're very smart Angie. Thank you Angie!

[@petahfelton252]

I think that it us very different for everyone. I hate sitting around but I can barely sit up at 2 years off. Sometimes you scare me I'm 68 and one day I hope to travel with my husband do art classes. I have ptsd I do my best to not dwell on the past

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

What is it that I say that scares you?

[@rajeshlumb8659]

​@@AngiePeacockMSWhow many years u feel anxiety please answer 42 months off dp dr gone now

[@CorneliusSpivey]

God work Angie 💜

[@claytondavis4939]

Best of luck.

[@rachaelhernandez7264]

I’ve been looking into neuroplasticity for a few months but haven’t committed to anything specific. I’m just doing mild free stuff and slowly building things to focus on.

[@sweetvictory3100]

Nervous system is the nervous system, there's so many things coming at me, Dr injury, body parts out of place and twisted, chronic pain, pressure, metals, mold, parasites, pathogens, 3 decades of being on drugs that affect the brain and body, now just benzos, probable floxing, depletion and not absorbing minerals or nutrients, 1-2 broken hrs of sleep for over a year, losing my crap literally, can't think straight, having to live with a gaslighting family everyday that wants me in a nursing home or psych ward, not able to get out on my own, spine twisting from skull to toes, hunched over and locked up, so many bones, look like im 90 but 44, abdominal mesh surguries that I think have gone wrong and also caused this GI issue from benzos way worse, trapped gas, prolapsing in pelvic floor, no care team, terrified of everything, ex spouse who was my caretaker leaving me in middle of all this, emotional and verbal abuse, death of friends and 2 family members who actually did love me, loss of being able to raise my son, loss of being able to work, loss of my apartment, loss of being able to eat, crap, sleep, i could go and on, loss of life idk what is coming from what but I think when you hit a tipping point with it, in your nervous system, benzos prolly do make it worse though, the body and mind freaks out the same, I'm dealing with so much, I will never know what is coming from what, I have legit issues that are life threatening which makes this 10x worse because i cant Just say... it's benzos, I'm ok, I think maybe benzos took everything to a new level but my nervous system couldn't handle stuff over time and the benzo couldn't keep up and I hit withdrawal/tolerance and everything I had going on before got way worse, my window of tolerance is zero I can't even talk to anyone about my situation without my body reacting more, why the heck...? Idk how to come to a place of acceptance of dying in this, I'm terrified, I'm not ready and I'm not resourced enough to throw myself into hospital situations anymore that made me worse and added terror, I need medical help but I'm not resourced for it and quite frankly I think It would kill me, I've been thinking a lot about the limbic system and neural pathways, so much of what you said resonated, timely... it's hard to tell myself I'm ok though when I'm not, my body is shutting down, I need to be able to get my GI to work and nutrients in to survive, so far everything tried via hospitals went wrong and they said, sorry, you need your colon out we think but you're not well enough, bye... So I was left with more terror, it's been literally one thing after another for 11 yrs, my body is spent, beyond spent, it's barely alive, I don't know how to accept death or to take a step of faith which mainly looks like going to an ER which only has made me worse, cant find anyone willing to touch me I have a psychiatrist, that's it, my primary care Dr will listen but doesn't know what to do with me I've had such severe reactions to things, that's left trauma in itself, Not resourced to handle severe pain at all So much hasn't been able to be ruled in or out becuz of my ex spouse leaving me who was my caretaker and I was told by big city hospital I was too sick for intervention in 2021 I have no idea how I've made it this long at all I should have been dead a long time ago I've continued to get worse none the less my brain is jacked, terrified, one more wrong move, I'm gone, or doing nothing seems like I'm gone so idk what to do I have tried to push myself to do little things that are safe while I don't feel good and am not resourced anymore to do the scary stuff like ERS Have had too much radiation, so much toxins stuck inside me unable to get out Need money and a way to get special help to detox but no clue how to do that Can't sweat either, that's not good, I think I have vagus nerve impairment, I'm messed up on cervical spine all the way to tailbone where it resides, I was told Dr injury could have impacted it, that's when I started losing my smell, that day... I don't feel safe in my own body, being tortured by this body I live in that needs basic help, stool out, food in, I quit trying things because reactions were too much and my nervous system wasn't resourced enough The thought of trying something new terrifies me becuz of how things have went in the past and there's been nothing ruled in or out No urge to go to the bathroom at all Was told if I got emaciated enough stuff would shut down Period has now stopped recently too I wish I knew when I hit tolerance what was happening and I wish I knew about benzos but I didn't Getting to a place of acceptance of not being ok and death is what I don't know how to work thru It would take red sea miracles to survive with everything this has turned into I wish I had strong faith, maybe it wouldn't be so scary, or support, living with toxic people does not help me at all, that's something I wish could be talked about, What if you can't get away from your triggers, like people becuz you need physical help, I get bare minimum I've looked into assisted living but I'm not old enough or have enough money to do so I would say what I experience daily would be the feelings of having to live with a rapist, someone who traumatized you, you can't escape it, you're stuck with them, they don't care about you or want you, constantly reminded of them becuz your brain and body dont stop, unfortunately you are so sick you need help so you have to deal with hate and resentment ans gaslighting on a regular basis, this is not a place to be in when in withdrawal and so disregulated and dying It's making me sicker Also my own body, my organs, the trapped stool, gas, urine, starvation, I'm being traumatized by my own body I'm so sensitive to everything , feelings, pain, pressure, people, stimuli, meds, everything I don't remember what it's like not to suffer and it just keeps hitting a new level, idk wth to do to get thru this The longer it goes on the worse I get, I have yet to find anyone that can relate on my level which makes this much harder Good video nonetheless Sorry to hijack the good vibes in the comments I just wish this was only benzos and that I wasn't dying and scared of it and where I will go Would make it easier I think to deal with Still on benzo, I think it's poisoning me bad at the dose and not able to get toxins out via poo or sweat, idk how else to do it, I'm so so thin and I think the benzo being as high as it is is taking me out quicker I look 70 lbs but weighing more now from the waste unable to move thru and get out for so long My GI said screw you when I hit tolerance and I've never had a normal urge since and my body is now so backed up, it's taking me out 😢 Any tips on all this, I will take them

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Start with just writing on a piece of paper, all the things that are “okay’ish” with you, with your body. Then write 1,000 times per day: my body has the ability to heal. Then start visualizing what life would like if you were healed. What would your body be like. What would you do? How would you act? Do this for 30-60 days, every single day.

[@susanmorgan4151]

​@@AngiePeacockMSWGreat advice! That's so doable!!!!❤

[@aprilhassell1747]

What if it's perimenopause. Should I take the HRT at lowest dose and see?

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Dude your way over thinking this

[@iamthefiremanjj]

​@@aprilhassell1747the fact you have what if thoughts means your anxious it's just anxiety

[@truthfulbeauty8302]

I find we just naturally know to do this without a program similar to what you said. About just doing it to survive without some regime. I wanted to mention too that I took the video with the lady the other week as doing things to help. The tapping and meditations can rewire the brain from my understanding. But it was mentioned in that video that people could do nothing and still heal. Is that what you are referring to?

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Well, after she said she did nothing to heal, like as in anything regimented or organized but yes she said she did tapping to help her cope with the symptoms and still does it because it helps her with life in general. But no, tapping does not “cure” withdrawal obviously. It helps us get through it and can give us a really good tool to work with if we need it.

[@MsCarmel55]

I'm 7 months off of antidepressants, and feel like my hormones are off. Depression, anxiety and brain fog are my most troublesome symptoms with insomnia. I'm also 58 years old and in menopause. So many factors that might be at play with 27 years plus of pills with cptsd. I'm thinking I'm improving slowly, but some days I'm just so exhausted.

[@aprilhassell1747]

I'm 43 getting a period. Year off ritialn. I did cold turkey. Tramatic experience. I'm thinking about estradiol patch. I'm still getting a period. Brain fog, depression, fatigue. I can't work. I'm scared to try the HRT. I had blood work to find out about the 2 other thyroid hormones. How long were you on antidepressants? Ever try HRT?

[@tompetty3742]

"no one is coming to save you" that's what I needed to hear to kick myself in de arse. Thanks for the resources. I'm in another transition of my journey. 6 years benzo free, 2 years 8 months everything else. 61-year-old woman, who's grateful I didn't find the groups till May of this year. The more I see the more I believe for me personally they would have hindered my progress.

[@susanmorgan4151]

"No one is coming to save you..." spot on! Hearing Angie verbalize that is helpful. ❤

[@Nick-gq2iy]

Congratulations to you! I’m 60 & can’t wait to be off! I’m only half off & the 1 group I know of for support is very...depressing & often I cannot attend, as it makes me feel worse. Good for you & I cheer you on! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 PS Thanks for the Hope! 🙏🏼

[@tompetty3742]

@@Nick-gq2iy I hope you have great success. It's not a sprint, rather a marathon. Quality of life over speed to the finish line is what I have witnessed. You got this & deserve it. Hope is the main ingredient. You are welcome. I was CT by docs. The group was a bit overwhelming at first for me, because it was like looking in the mirror of what I had survived. I limit time spent there. Thank you for the words of encouragement.

[@Nick-gq2iy]

@@tompetty3742 thank YOU! WOW! 😳 I did not know you were CT’d! What a worrier you are! Thanks for the pep text! I greatly appreciate it. 🙌🏼🙏🏼 Wishing for you, your best life ahead!

[@aprilhassell1747]

My new looping and rabbit hole is thinking I'm in perimenopause. And need to try HRT Depending on who I talk to they say I shouldn't be in withdrawal anymore off ritialn. My brain fog is so bad I can't work. I'm a year off ritalin. I'm on day 3 of no gluten. I want to make it another year to see if my body can heal yhe brain fog. I sleep 10 hours night or 9. Thank you for this community!

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Sounds like anxiety and CFS to me

[@aprilhassell1747]

@iamthefiremanjj CNS? Yes I'm really working on that. Central nervous system regulation

[@Waves353]

Hi Angie Can you comment on the acute stage “time frame” as in debilitating symptoms that persist way beyond a few months Where pushing even a little causes flare ups I went hard out for over a year (well hard for me stores, walks, cooking) with Dare and drew etc and have hit back to where I was in tolerance and dangerous places. My brain did not learn and actually feels more traumatised, I was a stubborn and persistent mf before all this med crap and could always prove to myself I can( not sky diving tho 😂) It’s so hard to know and it feels so Hopeless particularly now in protracted Heavy poly drugging like you Still can’t read or watch tv or have a conversation either Aka also Feel like I’m doing something wrong 18 months off and 4th year disabled by these meds

[@glynhayes5930]

Hey Angie.. I’m so frustrated. I do these things and as you say.. as I get better I do them naturally.bi get better.. and start getting so much better. But every time.. as I start to get to the point that I’m ready to branch out I have a major setback and slip back into acute like symptoms. I went on holiday 4-5 months ago. I booked it and made all the arrangements. I travelled.. I went out for dinner, I enjoyed myself. I’d worked hard to get to the point of being able to do these kind of things. 4 days after returning I went into a wave and have been in it ever since. It puts the 💩’s up me. After 5.5 years doing this again is painful. Everything I’m doing is with the end goal of getting better.. but my body just poops out on me and throws me right back into it. Like.. what can I do?

[@Waves353]

@@glynhayes5930 this sounds so disheartening I’ve read your other comments and it gave me so much hope. What do your waves now consist of? Ok sorry you’re still in the 💩

[@glynhayes5930]

@@Waves353 hey.. it is.. but the reality is it’s not the end of the world. I’ve got there before so I will get there again. I just have to take better care next time and respect the fragility of this injury until it’s obvious I’m more robust. I initially just had full blown flat out fatigue.. and felt over stimulated by everything. The fatigues lifted a reasonable amount and now I’m suffering with a few cognitive difficulties and just feel more sensitive in general. As ever when your nervous system destabilises the symptoms cycle. Although I’m improving again I think. The amazing thing I’ve come to realise about this syndrome is it can feel like your in the depths of hell for months and then seemingly in an instance it’ll change for the better and I’m certain this is the case here. Just a little more healing to do. Like honestly I was distraught when I had my last setback. I really thought I was going to have to do the whole 3.5 years I’d done before again. That never became a reality and the experience had kept me more grounded (most of the time) this time round.

[@Waves353]

@@glynhayes5930 best wishes to you

[@mbd2901]

Hello Angie.. You’re one year ahead of me. I’m doing a lot better but still struggling from leftover symptoms which are mostly pains and aches on my neck, legs, shoulder and some off balances. I think you’ve said all of your symptoms are now gone after 8 years and about 7 months? I know we heal differently but just praying and hoping mine will be all completely gone when I reach 8 or 8. 5 years in October 2025. Any input is greatly appreciated.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Once I was able to start moving more, it make work some of that out. We get really de-conditioned from the years of being unable to do anything.

[@minty2455]

Angie Thanks so much for this video. Did you have DP/DR? Did it seem to go hand in hand with the cognitive impairment? Just wondering. It’s confusing. ❤

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Yes I had Dr dp bad bad bad bad. It went away slowly as I healed. Took a few years.

[@minty2455]

Thx Angie. Hope you could do a video on that one (dp/dr).

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Took me 3 years or so honestly ​@@AngiePeacockMSW

[@yelhsasanedrac]

So we dont know if it this is permanent or not?

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

I never said such a thing.

[@yelhsasanedrac]

@@AngiePeacockMSW right

[@Qwerty-nm6qi]

Did you just casually say your visual issues are your ONLY withdrawal symptom left ? That’s huge ! Anyway unrelated question but has it ever happened to u that after pushing too hard you get a big set back? I’m trying to understand what happened to me. I’m in a set back, either bc of too much intense exercise or a supplement.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

Here’s my video on setbacks: How To Avoid Setbacks When Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs kzbin.info/www/bejne/enjQn4KnaZasqtU

[@allencollins6031]

Algo 👊 bump 😊

[@Nick-gq2iy]

I noticed it’s harder to stay hydrated now & I have an aversion to drinking water. It sounds so stupid, but that’s the case & I find all kinds of ways to keep hydrated, including using Celtic Sea Salt for the high mineral content.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

That’s weird I had that too. Like I didn’t feel thirsty and didn’t drink water but didn’t want to either. What the heck!

[@Nick-gq2iy]

@@AngiePeacockMSW yeah! Same! This occurred after starting the liquid micro taper, though I went extremely slowly & am still holding the dose. I could not, often, get off the couch...during that period when the insomnia flips to sleeping most of the day, I think because the body is trying desperately to heal itself. Truly, if there had been an emergency, I don’t know if I could’ve made it out of my apartment. Was also wearing pads & depends & using wipes due low to no energy. So...sleep was the priority at that point & thankfully, I could switch to an insurance that had coverage of a HHA! (So far I’ve found that the highest mineral salts are in Celtic Sea Salt & the next one is that pink Himalayan salt...these plus other things, help me stay hydrated. I do that “pinch test” on the back of my hand as a quick check to see if I’m dehydrated or not. Hope this is helpful to someone. ♥️

[@kmkeenan]

I don't mind drinking water but I'm pretty sure I don't drink enough of it a lot of the time. Lately, I've been drinking coconut water sometimes since it has some electrolytes.

[@Nick-gq2iy]

@@kmkeenan that’s what my APRN recommended I drink. I mix it with water. 🙌🏼 Sadly, she’s the smart one about the b#n⚡️o$ and will be retiring! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kmkeenan]

@Nick-gq2iy that sucks about your RN. I finally found a doctor that I trust, and a year later, he left the practice. He's planning to open his own clinic in November. I'm crossing my fingers that he does, although I suspect it will be a membership practice, which means $$$. But it would be worth it to me to see someone I trust.

[@minty2455]

Wanted to add to all My agoraphobia lifted. So hang on 🎉 after 3 years

[@minty2455]

@@Waves353 Hi. Good keep trying. That’s the ticket. It lifted slowly. I’m 3.5 years out. Thought it would not leave. I finally told myself I wasn’t going to get stuck like this. You can do it!!! ❤

[@minty2455]

@@Waves353 what is your dp/dr like? Mine is better. But I have cognitive issues with it. Crazy.

[@minty2455]

@@Waves353 You will get better. I takes time. ❤

[@Waves353]

@@minty2455 thank you so much

[@iamthefiremanjj]

This sounds like CFS/anxiety i went through it for years . Guys plain and simple you need to accept and surrender to your symptoms qnd stop googling and coming up with all these things that are wrong with you. Eat clean what helped me is going gluten and dairy free. Quitting all substances. Stop going on forums and thinking you have some disease because you dont . If you visited a doctor and everythings ruled out all you have is a dysregulated nervous system . This happens from drugs, meds , chronic stress and truama . Your not doing yourself any favors going down all these anxiety rabbit wholes trying to diagnoae yourself . Ita JUST anxiety and a dysregulated nervous system which can cause every single symptom you experience.

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

I wouldn’t call this just anxiety or just a dysregulated nervous system. It’s a chemical insult to the CNS and needs time and support to get back into balance. It’s also not from the same source as people with normal anxiety or even CFS or the other causes of TMS / mind body syndrome. Ours came from dangerous chemicals.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

@@AngiePeacockMSW well same symptoms doesn't matter the source but that's just my experience

[@AngiePeacockMSW]

@@iamthefiremanjj same symptoms, different cause.

[@iamthefiremanjj]

@@AngiePeacockMSW yep yep