Samsung 970 EVO versus 970 Plus. M.2 NVME SUPER SPEED!!!

[@Cobuman]

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[@mostafahastam8537]

:)

[@Cobuman]

*FULL DRIVE VS NOT FULL* kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGO3iZyMhs2mqLs Which is FASTER?

[@Cobuman]

m.2 speed test showdown, 970 EVO versus 970 Plus + Nvme show down! 970 Evo Plus (affiliate): amzn.to/2TEyknH 970 Evo Stnd (affiliate): amzn.to/379syP9

[@kingkongseinvater5618]

You cant compare a 250gb ssd with a 500gb ssd. The 500gb is always faster than 250gb even if its the same model!

[@jannicklange7318]

Unfortunately, all/most benchmarks on KZbin between the 970 Evo vs Evo Plus do this mistake. Quite useless videos :(

[@Your_Delusiona1]

I know right zzz

[@opheliumzone4671]

@@jannicklange7318 why is the bigger drive faster?

[@jannicklange7318]

@@opheliumzone4671 SSDs wth larger capacity often are composed of multiple smaller flash arrays, which allows them to R/W in parallel.

[@raisaga9273]

@@jannicklange7318 thank you! Really helpful.

[@kylebrown5749]

Sir, you can't compare different GB drives as higher GB drives come faster regardless of model.

[@gamersforlife3440]

I can do u have any problem with it?

[@T2roxT2]

@@gamersforlife3440 i do

[@domtheruggeda]

yes. keep in mind that the 512gb evo will be faster than the 256gb evo. and so on. and on most mobos the primary m2 port is faster than the secondary.

[@opheliumzone4671]

@@gamersforlife3440 🤣

[@gamersforlife3440]

@@T2roxT2 Ok what problem do u have????

[@marianpazdzioch8538]

EVO 31% Free space EVO Plus 86% free space.Results Crystal benchmark is bullshit. My disk in this benchmark EVO 500 GB 84 % Free Space has speed write 2465 MB/s.Fill the disks with data the same way.

[@Wolf89b]

czyli swoja droga, nie oplaca sie dac 200 euro za plus? Jak mam zwykle evo za 150?

[@marianpazdzioch8538]

@@Wolf89b Różnica między nimi to prędkość zapisu danych.Zwykłe EVO ma 2500 MB/s, a Evo Plus 3200 MB/s.Prędkość ich odczytu jest natomiast taka sama dla obu.W praktyce oba są piekielnie szybkie i nie ma odczuwalnie większych różnic.Nawet parametry zwykłego Evo mało kiedy można wykorzystać w pełni.EVO Plus to już natomiast właściwie wszystko co wyciśniesz z szyny PCI-E 3.0.

[@noi747]

nice comparison vid. thanks man

[@Cobuman]

Sure thing.

[@Max-lp6bi]

Thank you - I like your video and the way you present it.

[@Cobuman]

Sure thing.

[@Sieg_W]

You're not comparing the same sizes so this isn't 100% accurate. FYI even 500 GB EVO is faster than 250 GB EVO PLUS.

[@tylertsosie342]

prestigegames smart you get

[@wvcjeiq6014]

I just ordered a 970 evo plus, so excited for it to arrive.

[@Cobuman]

[@andreasaust1510]

I have the EVO 970 with 1000 GB and it reads at 3560 and writes at 2600 mb/s Sorry man but you're comparing apples with pears

[@gabriel9668]

Liked and commented! Appreciate the ad thing.

[@garrymcdonald5456]

Thanks, will go with the plus as my 5600g doesn't support 4.0. I do a lot of extracting of large files, large as in they take about 2 hours on my 3.5 sata drive. I also do other stuff like manipulating files that are 10gb-100gb+ in size which are written to another format, this sometimes takes 10+ hours and sometimes days on my 3.5. I am so looking forward to this new build as that PC is old, like 10 years old. I guess if you just game and do light work it isn't really worth it but for me it could be a hours different.

[@Cobuman]

Oh yeah, big difference. If you ever setup to have a backup computer on your home network make sure to use gigabit router and cables. This makes drag and drop over the local network super fast.

[@antunezcarlos]

Great Comparison.

[@Cobuman]

Thanks!

[@howierader8917]

Great vid, thanks for sharing!

[@Cobuman]

Sure thing. Glad you like it. 👍

[@andypair1571]

I got much better numbers with my 1tb evo. Using a newer version of crystal disk mark tho and it's amd on x570. These synthetics still don't do it justice, the 970 is one of the best gen 3 drives

[@unleashedfx7220]

For gaming it makes no difference whether it is the 970, 970 Plus or the 970 Super Duper Plus... if you are working with editing and moving large files, then yes get the faster one.

[@GamingWizardYT]

True, but updates and load times are increased

[@unleashedfx7220]

@GamingWizard Not really. If your windows is installed on it you wont see any difference in updates. As for load times, if you can see a difference between each of them, pls donate your eyes to science.

[@GamingWizardYT]

I mean, I went from a HDD with only around 100 speed on everything to the SSD that I have now around 3500 speed. I do notice a difference. I’m thinking you were probably talking about between the ssds which in that case I have no knowledge.

[@unleashedfx7220]

@GamingWizard Ah yes, if you switched from HDD to SSD/M.2, the difference is night and day. Between the M.2s there is no difference for gaming. For moving large files/editing it does make a small difference.

[@GamingWizardYT]

Agreed

[@seeeLAH1]

18% faster

[@syv6173]

is 18% really worth the big price gap tho

[@theblackmace5254]

@@syv6173 i am speed

[@Assimilator702]

@@syv6173 It's only a $10 difference.

[@screamsauce5065]

@@Assimilator702 20$ difference

[@Assimilator702]

@@screamsauce5065 $10 difference on Amazon where I live.

[@jpmcnown1]

Not suggesting that the 970 EVO is as fast as the Plus, It's certainly not, but..... 1. What are the drive capacities? 2. In what world is comparing the speeds on boot drive vs a secondary drive a fair comparison? Boot off a different drive, sheeze.

[@techsobserver]

John-Patrick McNown I have done a review on both 970 evo and 970 pro but I have used the pro for 6 month, the Evo was brand new , on same specifications PCs because I got 2 laptops. , and it was better That’s in my opinion any other thang than the Evo is not worth the price. Thank you.

[@dfgdfbsdfvv832]

the EVo 970 PLUS 500gb is the ebst for performance/price, on a budget but still want the ebst, its the way to go, the 970 evo PRO 512gb is an extra 100 dollars and only has about 15 to 20% extra performance so

[@CatHarington]

I like the dark theme. Can I change it in windows or is it a different launcher or something?

[@CatHarington]

@@djangojansen7648 better than you are, for sure

[@ihameed]

Are both m.2 slots have same speed as previously my understanding was that boards with two m.2 slots have one slot running slower than the other

[@Cobuman]

Good question. That may be true with some motherboards; however, with this mobo it does not appear to be the case. One slot is supposed to use 4 pcie lanes and if sharing those lanes between two m.2 slots it would not be noticeable in this test. Assuming they are shared and limited to 4 lanes this would be noticeable when utilizing both slots at the same time.

[@セ千尺丂セ]

I am running 2x 2tb evo plus m.2 and they both have same speeds at around 3400-3500 mb/s

[@gavinvollure2252]

Man that is the cleanest note taking app I've seen. What is It?

[@Cobuman]

Those are just Windows Sticky notes. Background was changed to dark theme but you can customize it to many colors. Keep in mind if you use sticky notes and your local profile (login) get's corrupted... notes will be gone. It acts more like temp data similar to when a website remembers your login/password.

[@Wlodek1410]

cool test

[@aminek244]

Hello, what is the maximum temperature on the 970 EVO Plus vs the 970 EVO standard ? Does it heat a lot ? Thanks.

[@GreaterRainMinistries]

Thank you for this video, and I understand that the 970 Evo Plus can be installed using the M.2 interface, but I have an odd question. Is there any way I could somehow maybe get TWO of these and install them into my U.2 connector on my motherboard instead? Any help would be so greatly appreciated! Thank you!

[@Cobuman]

Good question. As far as I'm aware there are adapters that allow you to use m.2 SSD with u.2 slot but only for a single SSD. amzn.to/33OtGsb The other adapters with 2 slots are for 1 drive over pcie and 2nd is just SATA speeds. So yes, you can run multiple 970 Evo Plus drives... it just depends on combination of adapters used if needed. Here is my video on m.2 adapter over pcie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnPJeJt8qJeiiNk

[@brionical2299]

I see my man is a Zane main, very proud

[@snoogitywoogity5394]

Bro I bought the 970 evo for my new pc build but turns out its the same price as the evo plus on amazon. Don't make the same mistake as me guys

[@Cobuman]

That is really good to know. No brainier to buy 970 Evo Plus in this case. Thank you. 😁👍

[@affectedrl5327]

@@Cobuman in germany the 1tb plus is 50€ more than the evo 1tb

[@Cobuman]

@@affectedrl5327 Interesting. The price goes up and down but usually the Plus is more expensive everywhere you go.

[@maayazi]

I see 970 EVO plus 1 TB at 50% more expensive than the 970 EVO 1TB. 55 euro difference. 970 EVO seems like a way better deal.

[@zeng58]

I bought the 970 plus I’m super excited my first m.2

[@azizkhalifa3350]

Grreat Video man, keep it uip. i wanna ask you please. eveo plus can work on my mb "Gigabyte B450M DS3H" ? plz i need to know

[@Cobuman]

Yeah, should work fine. Pretty much any mobo that has m.2 slot.

[@PeterPan90]

Sry my bad english.. What temperature in games or playing? I buy samsung 970 evo plus or 980 depending price jeje Thankssss

[@Cobuman]

Temperatures are fine. If you have a heatsink for the drive just use that.

[@Ishkrish]

I like your video but cant help but think running the same tests on two drives even if there the same would differ when one is also running your OS.

[@comedyman112]

please help me. my 970 evo plus 1TB is getting full read speeds (around 3500 mb/s) but only half write speeds (1100-1700 mb/s) I checked all this already: - mobo has pci 3x4 slot for the ssd - I updated windows - I updated ssd firmware in samsung magician - I updated BIOS - I enabled write caching in windows what else can I do?

[@Cobuman]

did you install NVME drivers? You can download them from Samsung website.

[@comedyman112]

@@Cobuman yes. the storage controller in Device Manager shows Samsung driver together with the Microsoft one

[@aabbccdd6520]

run window on 970 evo => speed 970 evo < speed 970 evo plus

[@musicstation18]

Is it worth it to upgrade from Samsung 970 EVO to Samsung 970 Plus? or not really a big difference?

[@41449666]

Do u have videos based on outlook troubleshooting issues???? Or how to troubleshoot outlook issues????? Thanks in advanced

[@Cobuman]

Yes, I have a few. Here is one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKfCqmehoKx_p6c

[@mentlinc]

I got the 2 tb Evo plus and I can't believe how fast it is! $380 ....but well spent I must say.

[@shortbreadbakery]

you compare an SSD that is pretty full (=much slower) with another one that is more or less empty? This is not really comparable?

[@Cobuman]

Are you asking questions or making statements? 😁 I always like to learn new things so if you can explain what you mean that would be helpful to me and everyone else who reads your comment.

[@shortbreadbakery]

@@Cobuman Hi, HDD as well as SSD get slower when they get "full". So if you have one drive in the test that is already loaded with a lot of data and the other one is empty... - the empty one has an advantage, what falsifies (correct word?) the results. I liked the way how you tested but you should realize a "neutral" test condition ;)

[@blaak_]

shortbreadbakery but when the other disc is full you can see how much better the full one performs in front of empty one

[@blaak_]

shortbreadbakery and some disc when have low space dont slow down

[@Cobuman]

@@shortbreadbakery If you were talking about old school magnetic drives I would completely agree with you... You are contradicting yourself by saying "full" and "loaded with a lot of data"... Unless used by another process any SSD will operate at it's max speed when tested under same conditions/method. The notion of solid state hdd being slower when it has data on it is simply ridiculous and nonsensical. Why would anybody buy an SSD that slows down over time? I would love to hear a rational explanation of what you are saying in which you have proof that SSD becomes slower when more data is on it...

[@danielgrawert213]

As many pointed out you cant compare 2 different sizes of Drives. A filled drive is always way slower than an empty one. And your C Drive is almost at it's max, Thats the reason for your really low Reads and writes on CrystalDiskMark especially.

[@Cobuman]

Are you sure? I actually tested that in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGO3iZyMhs2mqLs

[@JediBenknobi]

My CDM results for my 970 EVO 500. Almost full (Only 16.5 GB free) after about a (1)years use, and recently trimmed. System: MSI B450m Gaming + Ryzen 2600 all core O/C to 4150Mhz Deepcool Gammaxx 400 air cooler (Max temps - 72c) 16GB Geil DDR4 3000 @ 3466Mhz 16-18-18-36 MSI RX580 Gaming X O/C max 1442 core/2225 mem Samsung Nvme M.2 970 EVO 500GB (boot) Mushkin 512 GB SSD - storage Crucial 240GB SSD - storage Ext. Western Digital Passport 2TB USB C - storage Sound Blaster External SBLive 5.1 USB 5.1 speaker set-up JVC RX-700 Headphones Logitech G-214 Keyboard Logitech G-25 Racing wheel and pedals CH Products Combatstick Mouse = Microsoft Trackball Explorer 1.0 (27 yr.s old. Best "mouse" ever made!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CrystalDiskMark 6.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : crystalmark.info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s] * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 3621.113 MB/s Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2483.944 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 1041.986 MB/s [ 254391.1 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 961.711 MB/s [ 234792.7 IOPS] Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 375.232 MB/s [ 91609.4 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 339.623 MB/s [ 82915.8 IOPS] Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 48.823 MB/s [ 11919.7 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 183.209 MB/s [ 44728.8 IOPS] Test : 1024 MiB [C: 96.4% (448.6/465.3 GiB)] (x3) [Interval=5 sec] Date : 2020/05/18 10:07:44 OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 18363] (x64)

[@Cobuman]

Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@tak_treba]

Фуфло якесь вивалив.

[@tauhiddeep8410]

250gb vs 500gb that's an unfair and wrong review. Actually the difference is very slight. Not worth the extra money for evo plus

[@CaboMTV]

you are running Windows os on eve 970 standard? that definitely creates a slow down

[@meajeesh007]

250GB ssd which is 69% full vs 500GB ssd 14% utilized. Not a fair comparison at all.

[@oldschoolbluesplayer5319]

In "everyday use"....most people wont be able to tell the difference between this and the 2.5" Samsung 860 EVO SSD..."LinusTecktips"

[@JamesSmith-uc8nt]

No after experiencing it myself you'll know

[@poppz9716]

I have 970 Evo plus 250 gb and 300-400 mbs or something

[@DanubioRodriguez]

1600 MB/s I see in my test evo plus 970, any idea???

[@Cobuman]

That's roughly half the speed. Maybe in BIOS it's limited. You can also try to install the 970 drivers.

[@basedbrandon9407]

Just got mine for 150 usd and I'm excited :)

[@Cobuman]

[@zaido7725]

yikes i got mine for £80 in amazon 😬

[@Cobuman]

@@zaido7725 Maybe he bought a larger capacity drive.

[@Labros90]

I get 273K IOPS and 171K write on my 970 Evo M.2 ! How bad is this??

[@Xbox_StreamDeck]

Then why I am getting 1800Mbps read and write speed on 250GB evo plus ssd on my laptop with I5 8gen 32 GB ram ...Samsung magica software shows that I have interface of pci 3.0x4 ! But I am not getting that 3500Mbps speed why???

[@Cobuman]

I'm assuming you've installed SSD yourself which confirms that you indeed have 970 Evo; besides that, it kinda seems like your system is only using 2x speed on m.2 slot. Check to see if there is a setting in BIOS to adjust amount of PCIE lanes used for m.2 or something like it.

[@Xbox_StreamDeck]

@@Cobuman i check in bios nothing for ssd is SATA mode = AHCI by defult and my ssd model is 250 970 evo plus .....and the samsang magician software shows the ___> PCI gen 3.0 x4 interface ...someone said to me that Install windows 10 on sdd then you will get that speed but i am confused ...my laptop is acer aspire 5 model -> A515 51g... i run the test many times but result is same .while running test i see task manager and its showing me 1.8gb read max 1.8 gb write max ?? is their ssd problem or laptop ?? what should i do ....

[@skip741x3]

@@Xbox_StreamDeck i was gonna say its running pcie 2.0 but you have verified its working at 3.0x4...From ur response, it looks like ur Not running windows 10 and Thats probably why the speed difference...if ur using win 7, the driver may not be able to run it at its max..ieven if ur using the samsung driver....if ur Not using a samsung nvme driver, try that 1st, then if still slow, try installing win 10 win the samsung driver...that should do the trick

[@Xbox_StreamDeck]

@@skip741x3 I am using lastest version of everything bro windows 10 home 64 bit latest updated version with samsang Nmve latest version .....I think my laptop doesn't supposed full speed ! I don't know why ....because I check its running on pcie 3.0 gen x 4 version and I also check by using 3rd party software like cpuz etc. I don't know what is the problem ???

[@RMKry]

You test Evo 250 vs Evo Plus 500 ? its a joke ?

[@ஞானசேகரன்வீபிள்ளை]

I hit a like

[@barrybondz4483]

Not only is the 250 vs 500 idiotic but so is saying both m.2 slots are equal on coffee lake

[@waldomendo4135]

For the standard there's no way its that low on write

[@Cobuman]

😁 I also got similar speeds for standard on another PC... so, these are the results.

[@Scorpian472]

@@Cobuman I get about 2,600mb/s read and 1,400mb/s on write on the standard. I don't know why i have a slower read but a faster write. Lol. Any ideas?

[@buckmajor]

Money talks! Wish I can afford it lol

[@Cobuman]

I hear ya. They have other brands of m.2 that are slower by about 30% like Crucial here: amzn.to/36jW6tN and about 1/2 the cost but you get what you pay for... just like you said. 😁

[@mob5613]

The prices have dropped drastically

[@Volcom_StoneD]

why mine is 1770mb/s read /write? evo 970 plus 250gb........

[@Cobuman]

It's probably a setting in BIOS for NVME that needs to changed. It almost seems like you're not using 4x pcie lanes but only 2x...

[@Volcom_StoneD]

I have seen my 970 runs at 3500mb/s read.then after time i saw 1770mb/s.i searched all settings.nothing..i have asus x470 f-gaming

[@Cobuman]

@@Volcom_StoneD that is unusual. Open Task Manager and see if there is something in the background using up CPU power. Maybe antivirus.

[@Volcom_StoneD]

@@Cobuman nothing runs..I am getting crazy...i cant understand...weird thing.i also tried all bios changes and still nothing..and m2 health is 100%

[@GameFirst]

good review. when I search it, I find some other stupid youtuber "dare" put their giant face instead of SSD~~ lol. come on, I need the info of the SSD itself, not who you are.....

[@Cobuman]

[@tomofasia]

Just ordered 2x1TB of these and I don’t even need them... Oh, well! Maybe I’ll make my Unraid server happier with them. I hate this hobby! 😂

[@AdilParray]

You should test breaking a rar file password..

[@Chrosam]

3:55

[@jericacena6711]

Is it okay to put 2 different m2 speed in a mobo without having issues?? I have 500bg 970 evo And i am planning to put another 500gb 970 evo plus. Hoping for response. Thanks

[@Cobuman]

Sure thing. That's what I have in my system. Go for it.

[@shortbreadbakery]

not for all mainboards. If you have 2 M2 slots, often they have a different speed. You need to check if they really have the same specification

[@EllantEladar37]

Wow My 970 Evo Plus is Fsster than 970 Evo soooooo awesome 😁

[@jjtechbox9238]

You test 250 Gb VS 500Gb SSD IT's Wrong Man

[@SinghEditor1997]

970 evo plus 500gb

[@potatochips9230]

I believe the numbers should be higher my Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite AX has driven the numbers higher and its as main OS drive numbers are : [Read] SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 3578.010 MB/s [ 3412.3 IOPS] < 2341.11 us> SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3018.238 MB/s [ 2878.4 IOPS] < 347.20 us> RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 484.120 MB/s [ 118193.4 IOPS] < 262.13 us> RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 51.752 MB/s [ 12634.8 IOPS] < 79.01 us> [Write] SEQ 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 826.089 MB/s [ 787.8 IOPS] < 10132.27 us> SEQ 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 3137.722 MB/s [ 2992.4 IOPS] < 333.85 us> RND 4KiB (Q= 32, T= 1): 338.687 MB/s [ 82687.3 IOPS] < 376.40 us> RND 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 154.954 MB/s [ 37830.6 IOPS] < 26.25 us>

[@mrq332]

no good test, evo is 250gb and evo plus 500gb, smaller drives are always slower

[@Cobuman]

why?

[@mrq332]

@@Cobuman well for example, i have some 970 evo 500gb and sequential read is 3560MB/s Sequential write is 2503MB/s, so a lot faster than your 250gb evo, so like i said, smaller drives are slower, and you have a tech youtube channel? lol