Samsung QN90B Full Review | 2022 Neo QLED Mini LED TV

[@TechWithKG]

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[@nelq06]

Do I need top of the line Lan and HdmI cables to get best picture quality ?

[@gr8grizzly823]

I just bought a QN90B 55" last week and love it! Could not ask for a better tv. My living room has tons of windows so this tv was a no-brainer.

[@feelingoverlogic]

Recieved qn95b yesterday, it is a beast! Stunning display! Smart calibration made significant impact on the display. Then I set it to Film maker mode with slightly increased brightness! It is the best setting for me till now.

[@sundarchip]

How is the 4K upscaling of SDR content? How is the motion? How is local dimming when gaming with VRR turned on?

[@MaKTaiL]

What's the difference between QN90B to QN95B?

[@feelingoverlogic]

@@sundarchip Didn't try gaming on the TV yet! Everything else is brilliant till now! So many settings to choose from depending on our preference, this TV is really capable!

[@feelingoverlogic]

@@MaKTaiL QN95B has a better neural processor, better local dimming, better audio and slightly higher brightness power! But not sure if these differences cause huge impact on the picture, best would be to compare side by side.

[@raulcuadros708]

did you use iphone to calibrate the tv?

[@paulcanniff4308]

this is my TV of choice. it's got the brightest HDR and I can use it as a PC monitor without any risk of burn-in.

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

Its insane I have the 55 inch version 4k in 444 120hz 10bit is beautiful on this worry burn in free

[@carlcat]

Would love to see your comparison between this TV and the Sony X95K.

[@twindragon010]

X95K lose in gaming, you can't use VRR and lokal dimming together, so you can't play with full quality on PS5/ Xbox SX

[@carlcat]

@@twindragon010 Thanks for info, I'm a PC gamer so it doesn't effect me.

[@carlcat]

@@michaellubeck8464 Thanks for your input.

[@michaellubeck8464]

@@carlcat i got the X95K to look a lot better yesterday after working on the settings so that I could successfully put it into vivid mode on TV without it showing all the white lights which made it look milky...in other words, i was able to calibrate it enough so that vivid mode looked great to watch on it whereas before it was unwatchable on vivid mode - having it in vivid mode really started to give it that punch and color and brightness i was looking for..also, another user reccmended i subscribe to KZbin tV as the Pluto TV app had a significantly lower resolution - hence, the TV looks MUCH better than it did when i wrote this - it iooks pretty great now -and i would reccomend it - however, even youtube tv broadcasts in either 720 or 10180 on a chanell if you're lucky, so it still could be a sharper picture IF tv channels on youtube TV and everywhere would broadcast in 4k resolution - but 1080 Full HD still looked pretty sharp on the TV - I would recommend the TV now..

[@carlcat]

@@michaellubeck8464 Would you recommend it over the Samsung qn90B? I guess you would since you bought it but how would you compare them? What size did you buy? I'm looking at 77". Can you see what the back light master drive does? Last year my TV died so instead of buying a high end TV I bought the cheapest best looking TV I could find so it would give me time to wait till the 22 models came out. I bought the Sony X80J. Out of the box it looked pretty bad and washed out with too much white. I put it on Standard and then pushed all the color and contrast. I took down the red a little because reds seem to over saturate and blur the detail. It looks amazing now, sharp as a tack, very good color but the blacks need to go deeper. Not bad for a side lit TV. Zero blooming.

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

Just ordered the 85 inch. Can't wait till Friday.

[@TechWithKG]

Nice congrats! Another viewer mentioned they got the 85 inch last week for their super bright room and they are thrilled with the panel.

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

@@TechWithKG I've been follwing you guys for awhile now. I've had all the flagship from last year. A80j, a80j, c1, g1, qn90a, qn900a, 900h, x95j, z9j and qned90. This year I currently have g2 after already having the smaller version of qn90b. Was waiting for x95k to come out but the lack of gaming support just kills it for me. If you are wondering why all the tvs. To much watching your guys reviews and getting fomo. Brains tech therapy video has helped make a final decision. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos.

[@TechWithKG]

@@ZERO-jp6lm and I thought I had a lot of TVs 😂 thanks again!

[@joanhernandezciriza3797]

Please do yourself a favor and try out god of war and halo infinite in HDR. Even if you don’t game just try it. Movies are all good but these tvs really shine while gaming

[@SuperJuvexxx]

@@TechWithKG for a 43" TV would you suggest the Sony a89j (which is a slightly better sibling model of the a85j) for 500€ or the 43" QN90B for a price range of 1100-1400€?

[@mabombo8221]

This would be a copy paste of some reply that I have written, but to the people who are saying the rting have said that the qn90b is a downgrade to the Qn90b. It is not, It is better on paper. One thing to remember that the qn90b got an improvement to viewing angle layer which is known to effect the contrast with local dimming, color gamut and color volume. It is confirmed using the native contrast which didnt change between the two model. Another thing is that the qn90b got a way better local dimming than the qn90a which can be seen using rting real scene local dimming video. Put the qn90b and qn90a video next to each other and tell me which one is better. From my observation, the qn90b is able to keep the square and circle perfectly lit without lagging behind while the qn90a does dim the square and lags behind (which can be seen in the video). Third thing, the qn90b can track the EOTF accurately (outside of game mode) while the qn90a over brighten the scene. The qn90b got a huge upgrade in brightness for the lower windows, while losing brightness in the higher end (lower window are more important for the HDR). Another thing that you can see is the qn90b having a lower real scene highlight than the qn90a while having over 600 nits brighter in smaller highlight. The reason being is that rting real scene video focuses mostly on high window % which favor the qn90a. Hope this help you understand my point.

[@he.lena21]

This TV can reach 2000 nits very easily, it's incredible.

[@HopesAnchor131]

Do you recommend this over the qn95a??

[@paulnorato542]

i have the QN90B in a 75 inch what a great tv

[@michaellubeck8464]

how sharp is the Qn90b for watching new and regular SDR tv?? My x95K is not sharp and has judder and specular highlights aren't all that..i'm really disappointed with the X95k

[@othman0077]

Sounds amazing the QN90B I think QN95B will be even better the details on your review KG are unique 👌🏻 thank you!

[@TechWithKG]

Thanks!! I saw the 65 inch QN95B price leak was like $3,700 I don’t know how official that is but 😳

[@othman0077]

@Tech With KG In my region officially including tax and everything 55" 2078$ 65" 3143$ I expect higher prices in US and EU so 3700$ is most likely true!

[@joeywood4226]

@@TechWithKG so this tv is better than the qn90a for gaming?

[@Joker_Reborn]

Hey KG, I was wondering what the motion response is on that TV. I'm looking at the 43" but just trying to find out how it compares to the LG CX for motion.

[@zak8895]

Great review. I've just purchased the 65inch on Prime day offer for £1099.

[@navdeepniitverma]

thanks for the review.. i have few questions to ask. is there any difference in the panel used in 50" vs 55" does it have 12 bit full 444 chroma panel. if connected to a pc, can i select 144hz rate? (have 3090fe) if selected full array as high, on game mode, does it cause any lag or stutter on screen while playing games. can i enable gsync and how good it is if enabled?

[@Sumitsharma1927]

Yeah plz answer this ques for your indian viewers specially difference between 50 vs 55 as we are getting 50 way cheaper so can we buy 50 inch qn90b??

[@gamertube9918]

The 43" and 50" QN90B models use a different panel than the one used for the 55" - 85" models. The smaller screens are geared towards PC users, so the panels exhibit marginally worse off axis blooming but slightly better input lag when displaying 4K @ 144hz. I use my 43" inch QN90B as my mane gaming monitor and have had no issues.

[@gamertube9918]

The panel displays 444 in game mode and exhibits little to no stutter.

[@navdeepniitverma]

@@gamertube9918 thanks for replying

[@dp-calibrations2057]

Great review 👍

[@Chosen1_24]

Great video! I just got this TV in a 55" and I had a question! Whenever I go to the settings and I adjust the brightness and contrast to my preference and I turn off brightness Optimization, turn local dimming to low, turn off contrast enhancer, then I go play a game or do something, and the moment I come back to the picture settings The whole TV gets bright and puts the brightness and contrast back to 50 max default, when I changed it to lower numbers earlier. Kind of annoying. I'm sure its a simple solution to resolve, so any idea how to take care of that?

[@digitalassetdude]

Does the Qn90b have intelligent mode?

[@tonyzeno2715]

Do you think the qn90B is better overall than the qn90C? The biggest factor being the VA panel vs Ads.

[@bos6268]

Great vid kg. Love your positivity.

[@Cenfus]

I'm definitely getting a QN90B, however i don't know whether to get a 50" or a 55". I currently have a nearly 7 year old 4k tv from 2016. The 49" KU7000 in the US. Any help will be very appreciated.

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

I went with the 55 inch beautiful tv gsmeing on this is insane 4k 444 10bit 120hz hdr is a sight to be hold

[@tonyzeno2715]

Do you think a QN90B (75) is still a good buy for 2023? or should I look at something newer? I can pick qn90b 75 brand new for $1500.. I want a good all arounder that can get bright.. plus I am intrigued byt the "Auto Game Motion + feature"

[@TechWithKG]

Yes at $1500 it’s a great deal there wasn’t too much difference this year other than HDR tone mapping options added and the switch to ADS panel. The game motion plus is the same as this year’s model so you’ll be good there.

[@ProjectGamerYT]

Hey do you find the reds can look a bit more orange than they should do on this TV?

[@TechWithKG]

This can happen out of the box color on all these TVs can sometimes be off.

[@Esio_Sanson]

Hi KG, there is any difference with local dimming set to standard between movie and game mode?

[@abdulrahmank7997]

do you think the x95k will have better local dimming in game mode due to back light master drive

[@TechWithKG]

Definitely possible because Sony does sacrifice some input lag for more processing at times but remember to keep in mind LD disabled if your using VRR

[@abdulrahmank7997]

@@TechWithKG think's for the reply

[@techmed-rainer]

Danke!

[@TechWithKG]

Danke!!!! 😀

[@EliasBantitTG]

What is the difference between the qn90b and the qn93b

[@weikra2023]

What do you think is the better choice? The 85QN85B (with VA Panel) for less money or the 85QN90B?

[@wg8561]

Hi I have the Samsung 75q8fn. I absolutely love it but it's in my living room and I'm finishing my game room soon. I'm thinking about this TV or OLED. Light isn't an issue in my game room so I can do Oled, but I really want the 85". My older Q8FN is already close to Oled in picture quality, so if this is as good or better but in 85" I'll be happy. What do you think?

[@wlew8287]

Between the TVs you've seen/reviewed so far this year, (C2, Qn85b, Qn90b, S95B) which would you recommend at 55" when most TV viewing will occur with either natural light in the room or lights on? Most uses will likely be SDR (Twitch and KZbin) with the occasional movie and regular gaming (XSX & PS5). There will be very few scenarios where I'll be watching with all lights off.

[@TechWithKG]

Are the lights going to be reflecting into the tv or is there any direct light hitting the TV?

[@nejihiashi]

Buy qn90b you're mostly browsing and watching movies, so qn90b will be better with no risk of burn in

[@wlew8287]

There's only one light that'll ever hit the TV (indoor light). It's unfortunately mostly unavoidable given how the space is used

[@Martin-Nilsson]

Wich tv has best local dimming features and has less blooming effect, Qn90b or Qn800b? Qn800b has double the dimming zones and should handlade blooming better?? Or does qn800b need the double amount dimming zones cause its 8K has has more pixels to shine through?

[@sliverfalcon7932]

Hi kg where I live there is a hisense U8G 85 inch that has a VA Panel The U8G 85 inch is the same price as the LG C1 65 inch which would be a better option..........thanks

[@TechWithKG]

If you are far away from your TV you always want to get the biggest tv you can get. If you are less than 7ft get the 65 inch c1

[@sliverfalcon7932]

Thanks KG....my seating arrangement is very flexible I can move my seat closer or further away ......so I was just wondering if the quality of the lg c1 65 inch is worth it over the 85 inch since the difference is 20 inch for the same price......thanks

[@feelingoverlogic]

I don't know why few people are complaining on smart calibration messing up their TV, I have done it multiple times in both modes and didn't face any issue! I have used S22 to calibrate Also, people complaining have used iPhone to calibrate, so i think better to avoid iPhone as of now to calibrate. What's your views on this KG?

[@icemanandbobtechandgaming]

I’ve been wondering about this also as I have both an iPhone 13 Pro Max and a Galaxy Z Fold 3 phone, so I should be good.

[@raulcuadros708]

can it be calibrated with iphone 12 pro max?

[@fantasprite916]

@ Tech With KG I saw your reviews and other reviews about the new Tv‘s but i still cant decide. I was going to pick the Samsung S95B but then i heard it has a lot of bugs after that i saw the videos from keep it classy tech. Now i am really unsure about the Tv. Other options would be Lg c2, Lg G2, Sony a90j or the Samsung qn90b. I game a lot and watch movies every day. The sony looks interesting but because sony isnt that much with gaming features i am more refuse for the tv. The sony a95k isnt an option because it will cost to much for me. At the Moment i have a Samsung qn90a but i will Return it because of sound and picture problems. What tv would you recommend? It would be great if you could help me out.

[@DukeFerg]

Awesome TV. I can not justify the $2500 price difference between the 85 inch models though (qn90a). I am about to purchase the qn90a as I am in the market for a 85 inch tv. Would you have a better suggestion for 85 inch

[@joeywood4226]

So I don’t get it, ritings said the QN90A beats this in the local dimming/games …Which is better because I’m about to buy either the 65” qn90a This TV Your showing here. or gonna get the 55” QN95B that was just released any input on which Samsung qned is the best

[@saqqawattuhb7505]

Which has better picture? QN90B or QN95B (85")

[@TechWithKG]

Pretty similar the QN95B probably has the slight edge due to a more advanced processor but is it worth the difference and how noticeable is it really is the question from what I hear people can't tell them apart in picture quality. QN95B is the choice if you need the extra features it has like the one connect box etc.

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

90b

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

90b is to put it simple stunning

[@greensmanu]

What do u think. Qn95B vs x95k? The size should be 75/85. Or should i wait until next year for the 77inch QD oleds?

[@suadmemo2412]

QN95B for Gaming and Movies, x95k only for Movies

[@TechWithKG]

Having seen everything but the x95k I gotta say if your tv now is good enough to wait definitely wait for 77” QD OLED TVs if they are within the budget. Unless you are in a very bright room.

[@greensmanu]

Thank you guys. I have an really bright room, but normaly i used my tv at the evening. In my office i have an c1 as an Monitor. 77 QD would be in size and tech the sweetspot. One year to go :(

[@michaelknight2234]

Hi Kg I would go for a sony a80j but the only size available is 77 inch and in south africa it cost the equivalent of $4,811.....so I'm deciding between a LG C1 or Samsung qn90a or Sony x90j it's going to be a bedroom TV which would you go for?

[@GamingTech-YouTube]

If I can't get the S95B or the A95K in Australia then I think this one or the G2. But I want QD-OLED 😭

[@jokernew]

I also have the s95b at home right now, it really is the brightest oled but and that's why it's going back, it's showing COLOR FRINGE ARTIFACTS some would say you don't see it from a certain distance but my 65 inch with a distance of almost 3m I see it and once you see it it's very annoying and the Sony will have the same technology and the same problem for 1000€ more I'll try my luck now with the qn95b

[@miguelangellehmann9690]

RTINGS says that qn90b is a downgrade of qn90a.. what do you think about it? nice video by the way

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

It's not a downgrade. I have/had both. In real content qn90b is better. Unless your using it for test patterns

[@JoelRoza-r3y]

Would this go ok with a Switch? I know that’s a semi silly question because Switch looks bad in general but something tells me this will handle SD content well. I have an A90j in the lounge. Thinking about a 43 for this TV in another room, as like a separate gaming tv. It’s really cheap atm. Great videos

[@TechWithKG]

Oh yeah Nintendo Switch upscales well and it gets very bright in SDR plus LCDs are generally better with motion for 30fps games and you have game motion plus to make those 30 fps games feel like 60 fps

[@eurovisie2010]

rtings claims this 90B is worse than the 90A of 2021 !?

[@moncsicsika]

Numbers don't lie! By the way, only RTINGS disclose numbers, the other "reviewers" form an opinion based on what?! Well, we don't know... but smells fishy...

[@Z4d0k]

@@moncsicsika numbers can easily be used to lie. Marketing departments do this all the time.

[@moncsicsika]

@@Z4d0k I see so in your opinion numberless (clueless) self declared youtube reviewers are the sources of reliable info... Fine but let me disagree!

[@Z4d0k]

@@moncsicsika you're attempting to reduce the argument to a dichotomous choice between the truth in numbers compared to subjective opinions, but this isn't useful or accurate. Different outlets provide useful information, but very few provide ALL relevant information on a product because they have limited time and resources. Regarding Rtings, it's great that they provided a zone count and objective measurements in very specific test patterns. However, you must understand how to apply these values to draw an appropriate conclusion. Their results are specific to the tests they conduct and do not always reflect performance in actual content. Additionally, every score they provide is a simplification of the performance measured, as it weights factors differently and draws an average value. Finally, as with every other reviewer, they don't measure every factor of TV performance, so their conclusions are similarly incomplete. Useful, but incomplete.

[@moncsicsika]

@@Z4d0k My goal is to make available every useful info not just a few selected ones as those ones can distort and mislead. You cannot properly review the miniLED models without disclosing the real(!) number of the local dimming zones (among other things)! And if you compare last year's models to the present ones then you have to mention (among other things) that the numbers of the local dimming zones got reduced this year by around 10%! Give the info out to the interested public and let them decide what is important for them before they make their purchase but do not hide the info as it would certainly mislead the interested public.

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

Had one of these delivered the other day. I was concerned when it arrived with a huge hole in the box that went through to the panel. I remained hopeful that it would be okay. When I was able to unbox it with some help, I plugged it in, and it had a giant crack at the top of the screen, literally nowhere near the hole in the box, that area looked clean. No impact damage on the top from what I could see so I suspect temperature fluctuation. It was heartbreaking that Samsung don't take better care of their flagship products. Styrofoam should cover the entire panel not just the corners, and there should be an insulation layer in the packaging to protect the panel from extreme temperature changes. Their solution was to purchase a new TV, then refund me that amount when they receive the broken one. Idk why they can't just do a "replacement" but that's what I had to do

[@joanhernandezciriza3797]

I got lucky with DSE. It looks perfectly clean to me although maybe cause I got the 43’’ version. I think smaller panels are less prone to DSE/banding. I use it as a PC monitor exclusively so I would seriously notice if it had DSE. I have to agree with you that the highlights in gaming paired with a RTX 3080 are out of this world. Jesus Christ it is a game changer. Love oled but damn you can’t miss that brightness. It would be great if you could test response time for these tvs. Great video as usual

[@glubberer1171]

Does it support 120hz? I have read mixed reports about it

[@joanhernandezciriza3797]

@@glubberer1171 sure it does. Im running it at 4k 144hz HDR 10 bit

[@glubberer1171]

@@joanhernandezciriza3797 that's good to know, thank you

[@pedrogriffin1934]

Hey KG, so would it be worth to trade up to a QN90B from a QN90A that was purchased on a Black Friday deal? Are the improvements that significant from A to B?

[@TechWithKG]

Not really, unless you deeply value the things I mentioned as upgrades. I typically don’t think upgrading from a previous year is a great strategy especially when we just had QD OLED technology introduced, that’s going to pressure the TV display industry moving forward. Holding on to your QN90A for a few years then getting one of the new technologies that is more refined sounds like a solid plan. Unless of course you dislike owning the QN90A and want to move it asap.

[@xdi1733]

Can anyone confirm that the 43 doesn't have the pixel interference issue near the top of the display?

[@davidjapri5947]

are this tv can do from 30fps game into pure 60fps with game motion plus? lots tv can do it but none of them can pure give 60fps example like around 40 fps, smooth at slow movement but turn the camera fast still not 60fps. hope that u sir can explain it. sorry for bad english 😅.

[@rct8884]

Thanks KG great review!

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for the valuable information for all these different kinds of TVs.

[@peanutbutterjelly1481]

Does anyone know if the stutter problem is fixed.

[@Tavayneparkins]

I have the qn90a and I heard that the local dimming can take a hit with Vrr but I never noticed any degrade.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah honestly you really have to be pixel peeping, some games it can be pretty noticeable but id say for most games people probably wouldn't tell the difference.

[@woofinu]

Thanks for the straightforward recommendations.

[@itsGlyphikz]

I bought the QN90A 50" and couldn't cancel it so I just received it recently but haven't decided to open it yet for a few reasons. I watched your QN90A video which has the ultrawide features for PC and was wondering if that is available for the QN90B as well. I couldn't find anything about that anywhere. I would prefer the 43" on the QN90B as I would use it for movies and PC use. I also read that the QN90B 43" can do 144hz on the PC which would be a nice bonus as well. The one HDMI 2.1 port is throwing it off for me for the QN90A but also read about the flaws in both like dse, blooming, etc. I ended up ordering an 8k/4k120 hdmi splitter for the QN90A but as I mention I still can't decide to keep and open the 90A or get the 43" QN90B with the more features. If it can also do the ultrawide view that would be amazing for me but also worried about all the bad takes on it about the blooming etc. Would appreciate if you could clear the few things up for me, Thanks!

[@TechWithKG]

QN90B has about the same blooming overall. QN90B does have ultra wide yes.

[@TheCrucialQ]

RTINGS says the APL appears to be lower this year, not sure if its related to the higher small highlight brightness. HDR10+ may solve that.

[@TechWithKG]

It’s not really noticeable it might be lower but high APL scenes still look great on an the QN90B even next to a QD OLED. So im sure the QN90A is brighter in full screen (we don’t see that too much) but not by a large amount, I think the trade off they made with better highlights is well worth it, the TV is much more impactful in HDR than it was with the QN90A.

[@TheCrucialQ]

@@TechWithKG One of the visual features of the mastering monitors is that they produce a brighter fullscreen image. Consumer displays usually hover around 600-700 nits fullscreen. HDR10 doesn't carry that data, from the monitor used to grade the content, which is usually 1000-2000 nits fullscreen. HDR10+ should properly tone map that down to a proper range.

[@alucardoVin]

Samsung QN90B vs Samsung QN95B would be nice.

[@studmuffin3264]

They're the same

[@jimwindy]

Love this, i own the QN90B 85- Any guide on settings? Specifically Local Dimming / Contrast Enhancer & Motion

[@TechWithKG]

Local Dimming High for most HDR though you should try standard in movies that might have more impactful effects as I seen brighter highlights with standard sometimes. Low LD for SDR typically but standard is fine too. Contrast enhancer off as you’ll crush key details. Motion is really just your preference try auto if it’s too much soap use custom

[@jimwindy]

@@TechWithKG Thank you! I switched to Dynamic (wow!) then moved Dimming to standard. This really is an impressive TV. What about black level offset and ST2XX offset? Seems you can get less whitewash and a more crisp color pallet

[@pinkusagar]

I dont know what you guys see but rtings has done a detailed testing and has given QN90B a lower score than QN90A. Out of the box color accuracy, both DCIP3 and Rec2020 color gamut coverage has taken a hit in QN90B. You are probably more interested in brightness.

[@mabombo8221]

It is better on paper. One thing to remember that the qn90b got an improvement to viewing angle layer which is known to effect the contrast with local dimming, color gamut and color volume. It is confirmed using the native contrast which didnt change between the two model. Another thing is that the qn90b got a way better local dimming than the qn90a which can be seen using rting real scene local dimming video. Put the qn90b and qn90a video next to each other and tell me which one is better. From my observation, the qn90b is able to keep the square and circle perfectly lit without lagging behind while the qn90a does dim the square and lags behind (which can be seen in the video). Third thing, the qn90b can track the EOTF accurately (outside of game mode) while the qn90a over brighten the scene. The qn90b got a huge upgrade in brightness for the lower windows, while losing brightness in the higher end (lower window are more important for the HDR). Another thing that you can see is the qn90b having a lower real scene highlight than the qn90a while having over 600 nits brighter in smaller highlight. The reason being is that rting real scene video focuses mostly on high window % which favor the qn90a. Hope this help you understand my point.

[@pinkusagar]

@@mabombo8221 OK got it but why the DCI P3 color coverage is reduced to 90% from 95% even Rec 2020 coverage is reduced to 66% from 71%.

[@TechWithKG]

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[@kwizatzart]

Just a remark about shape adaptive light, it's not only a software change, but mainly a hardware change, as the minileds are now able to concentrate their light (like you would do with a flashlight)

[@musiconvinylisbetter.1449]

You should use local dimming low.

[@g.e.5126]

I'm in Europe and have the new 1622.4 on my QN90B via USB and it's worth doing.

[@kenknowlton3085]

Don't forget that OLEDs have their cons too. One discriminator is $$$. Potential burn in issues for my application (computer monitor), consumer reports of panel tint problems, but mostly price was the reason I declined an LG G2 and opted for the Samsung QN95B. The other LCD panel in the running was the Sony X95K. But the Samsung performed marginally better across all metrics and was a little less money. I discounted the S95B quickly because of limited size options and product fragility. However, if you want a 55" or 65" the S95B cannot be beat.

[@digitalassetdude]

How bright is a bright room? I had LG OLED and it was so dark during the day sports were not watchable.....I feel like anyone with light in their room...which I assume is 95% of people will want QLED....still deciding between S95b and QN90b.

[@majorkursk780]

Is this Qn90B model better than the Samsung QN800A which is now selling for only $1799?

[@TechWithKG]

I’ve never seen the 800A sorry.

[@tecnogadgethd]

¿How much blooming should I expect from this QN90B? Im used to almost flawless blacks with my 65" Q70R, almost no blooming nor local dimming issues at all, thanks to the high native contrast of the VA panel (higher than any of the new 2020/2021/2022 models) 7,250 : 1 without local dimming and 8,056 : 1 with local dimming. While it is true that the Q70R is a mid-high end, and you get incredibly pure and clean blacks at the cost of a little less brightness and shadow crush, I am afraid that having more localized areas will generate more blooming (I know it is counterintuitive) but it all depends on the implementation of the algorithm, and if samsung prefers to compromise pure black at the cost of higher brightness for HDR impact.

[@TechWithKG]

Definitely a better backlight performance out of the QN90B over the Q70R so you should see an improvement. If you watch from an extreme angle there is some blooming in challenging scenes and subtitles.

[@ThaBIBLEtoter]

IS THERE ANY GHOSTING ON THIS SET? I bought this tv and had to return it immediately because everything looked smeared in fps games and ghosting in rpg games. I was wondering if I just got a bad panel or if it had a bug.

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

4k 444 120hz 10bit hdr on this is a sight to be hold u need to see it in person i just got the 55 inch verson its beautiful

[@Uuuung]

Hi Tech, i have two options and i want your opinion: 1. Qn95B 75 inch: 1907.71 USD (59% off) 2. QN90B 85 inch: 1226.06 USD (70% off) Is the one connect box, better processor, and 144 hz vs 120hz worth the price difference to pick the QN95B and not the QN90B`?

[@TechWithKG]

2 for sure that deal is insane

[@Uuuung]

@@TechWithKG Ok Done :)

[@CaptinLongdong1]

Where'd you find that deal?

[@TheTrueMoments]

@Tech With KG So LD is not fully utilized in game mode. We get that. Can you tell us if LD gets even worse when VRR is On? Super important information for all gamers out there. Thanks!

[@TechWithKG]

LD with Game Mode no VRR is like High local dimming just not quite as effective. Game Mode w/ VRR on loses the ability to have the high local dimming (it almost seems like this doesnt work with VRR which is likely the case) and then so id say VRR LD is similar to standard local dimming but maybe even a little less effective, but will still be decent and better than nothing. At least QN90B will still have it unlike other TV's which don't allow local dimming at all with VRR.

[@TheTrueMoments]

@@TechWithKG True, but other tv's usually have fully working LD in game mode while VRR is Off. Appriciate your work KG.

[@TechWithKG]

@@TheTrueMoments I don't believe that is actually the case with any LCD TVs as far as I know they all have some reduced LD effect in game mode w/ VRR off. Its easy to think otherwise though because its not an obvious difference you really gotta go looking for differences.

[@TheTrueMoments]

@@TechWithKG I had Panasonic, Phillips, Sony, Samsung, LG tv's. Mostly midrange or higher. LD was obviously not a topic until recent years. Sony has a fully working LD in game mode, when VRR is off. Not trying to bash any brand. None of them are perfect anyway.

[@TechWithKG]

@@TheTrueMoments no doubt Sony is definitely a possibility you may be right I know in the past they have favored keeping on functioning processing in favor of input lag so it’s definitely possible they had full LD system in game mode.

[@giotorres9848]

the true question is how much better the qn95b is gonna be?? rtings thinks the 90a is better than the 90b

[@moncsicsika]

RTINGS did proper review with measurements that is the difference! They disclosed (and no one is taking notice of that) that the number of dimming zones got reduced in the new models (by about 10%). Why don't you read about it anywhere else? Tell you why, because the others don't do it properly that is why! Not to mention that it is very easy to check the number of dimming zones by manual counting or by simply looking up in the service menu. Why only RTINGS takes the trouble of publishing them?!

[@mabombo8221]

It is better on paper. One thing to remember that the qn90b got an improvement to viewing angle layer which is known to effect the contrast with local dimming, color gamut and color volume. It is confirmed using the native contrast which didnt change between the two model. Another thing is that the qn90b got a way better local dimming than the qn90a which can be seen using rting real scene local dimming video. Put the qn90b and qn90a video next to each other and tell me which one is better. From my observation, the qn90b is able to keep the square and circle perfectly lit without lagging behind while the qn90a does dim the square and lags behind (which can be seen in the video). Third thing, the qn90b can track the EOTF accurately (outside of game mode) while the qn90a over brighten the scene. The qn90b got a huge upgrade in brightness for the lower windows, while losing brightness in the higher end (lower window are more important for the HDR). Another thing that you can see is the qn90b having a lower real scene highlight than the qn90a while having over 600 nits brighter in smaller highlight. The reason being is that rting real scene video focuses mostly on high window % which favor the qn90a. Hope this help you understand my point.

[@nejihiashi]

QN90B have abl problems which will make the TV dim faster, and the brightness is lower than qn90a in full bright scenes, and the qn90b have higher input lag, and lower color gamut.

[@sj460162]

Great review thankyou Damn KG I wish you could see my living room so you could tell me which tv to buy..Qn90b vs S95B?

[@TechWithKG]

How bright is it? I think if you got any direct sun light hitting the TV you want to go with the QN90B.

[@sj460162]

@@TechWithKG Right. Thanks. Yep I think its gonna be the QN90B. But damn I need that QD Oled! Well the lights kinda not hitting it directly but the whole room is filled with light and you can see the window reflecting right on my tv screen. So Im guessing Im stuffed...gonna have to be the Qled.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah if direct light hits the QD OLED you can possibly get a gray black look on your panel when watching dark content.

[@sj460162]

@@TechWithKG Ok will do. I'll check it tomorrow. Gaming sure looks amazing on the S95B so ive got my fingers crossed that the light test may give me hope. Thanks again KG

[@java2894]

lcd always better for long term used to avoid burning

[@wowfoelifewarcrack3297]

Specifically if you're use tv for pc monitor/gaming

[@g.e.5126]

I have firmware 1640.9 on 50QN90B. I like this.

[@ZockBobOmb]

Look on my channel i recordet the "dull color" processing issue which affects all Neo QLEDs 2021. Can you test it and say how it is on the QN90B? It will also happen on the dark greyish Loading Screen in the Witcher 3 with the Loading Icon which goes grey and loses the color. It happens when the backgrpund is darker or geryish and some smaller colors or stuff like that are over that background.

[@NexGenTek]

Great Review!!

[@Link23809]

Excellent review as usual, thanks KG.

[@pixelpastime]

Hey KG, thanks for the insights on the new 90b. Been watching a lot of your videos recently as I'm trying to decide between oled, qd-oled and LCD (oh what a surprise :). Comming from a 1080p LCD btw. One of my biggest concerns is the automatic dimming on oled-type technology. Have my TV hooked up to my PC, functioning as a second "monitor". My usage case is some streaming, some PS5/PC gaming and also a fair share (+30%) of browsing websites (or i.e. watching youtube while NOT in full screen). What's your take on the dimming issue? Is that a (QD-)Oled-Deal braker? Is the constant brighness adjustment going to drive me nuts? Can't seem to find a clear argument for/against it. Cheers and keep that awesome content coming!

[@pixelpastime]

@@loki76 Yeah, that's pretty much in line with what I've gathered so far as well. Definitely keeping the qd-oled-tech as a viable option. I'd assume quite a few people use their 4k TVs as secondary monitor nowadays. Wonder why the dimming dilemma for this particular use case hasn't been explored in more detail by any of the reviewers. It's usually just mentioned as a side note. Or maybe I'm just not finding it. Anywho, much appreciate you sharing your POV, it all helps the descision process. Have fun with that delightful new screen!

[@scenerific]

@@loki76 Hey! Thanks once more for the tip on "AllaboutTKK". Checked him out, kept researching and after a lot of back and forth, decided not to "risk" it and went the LCD way once more. While I too enjoy dark mode on select programs/apps, for productivity I'm all about the brightness and blinding whiteness :). Ended up ordering the qn95b. I'll revisit the qd-oled option next time around. Picture quality wise it's definitely second to none. Hope you're enjoying your new TV (with little to no drawbacks.) Cheers!

[@TechWithKG]

Using the C1 as my monitor I feel this 😂

[@scenerific]

@@loki76 Well that's a bummer, but thanks for sharing. Happy to hear I made the right choice here. TBO Sony X95K would be my no 1 pick - if price wasn't an object. That one however would've cost me more than double the Samsung if I wanted to get it upon release. Same as you, I don't care too much about VRR and DV though, so Samsung it is. We'll see how it turns out. TV should be delivered hopefully sometime this week. I also considered the QN90B, but ultimately went for the QN95B mainly due to its better processing chip, and with the deal I scored it only cost me around 300 more than the QN90B, so easy choice. Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the panel is ok, and then that'll be that. Considering the TV I'm upgrading from, I doubt I'll have any complaints. If I detect any major flaws concerning PC related usage or otherwise, I'll let you know.

[@he.lena21]

I'd pick this over any 4k WOLED any day (except the G2 I guess)

[@sundarchip]

Sadly, QD OLED isn't available in every country. The S95B isn't coming to India and considering that rhe A90J didn't come here last year, I don't think the A95K will either.

[@rajankapoor299]

Why do they dont release in india?? And dont you think a80j 77 inch is OVerpriced here in india compared to usa?

[@yukoncole]

I am watching this, and while you are referring to Samsung, your headers are saying LG QNED 8K!! So ????? I actually have a LG QNED 8K and am wondering how it compares to the Samsung Q90B, which is why I was watching your video, to gather info on the Samsung. I am not confused, though, with the titling.

[@TechWithKG]

That’s just the demo footage from qned being displayed on this TV nothing more

[@yukoncole]

@@TechWithKG - Ahhh, okay! What are your thought on the LG 99 Series vs the QN90B?

[@TechWithKG]

QN90B is better

[@sundarchip]

Thanks for clearly calling out the fact that the QN90B is better than the QN90A of last year. RTINGS has given it a score of 8.5 whereas the QN90A was given an 8.6, which implies that the 90B is actually a downgrade. Very misleading of them to do that.

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

Based on test patterns and not real content. Its just hard data. Thats why its also good to watch these videos also. I dont think anyone watches black and white checker board patterns.

[@moncsicsika]

RTNGS did the right thing and many QB90B owners blame them for that! That is ridiculous! Only RTINGS disclosed the vital info about the reduced(!!!) number of dimming zones while all the other so called "reviewers" either did not know anything about it ("nice" testing method) or kept quiet (no comments...) about it... Why?!

[@pika3402]

@@moncsicsika mam you complain about this on every comment. More LD doesn't mean better. It's all about how to process. There are many TVs had more LD but performed bad.

[@moncsicsika]

@@pika3402 The number of the local dimming zones is one of the most important specifications of the LED-backlit LCD-TV whether you like it or not! Apart from the RTINGS-team, the so called reviewers (including the ones in youtube) simply ignored that the new models have reduced local dimming zones! Why did they do that? Even worse, when asked in the comment section about the dimming zones some of these so called youtube "reviewers" (including this one) stated that the number is the same as last year's models! Why do they do that? Why?!

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

@@moncsicsika you know Sony has done a great job with LD with very little LD zones. Without a good algorithm it doesn’t matter how many LD zones you have. LD zones is not vital information to have. since you love rtings so much. Compare those LD ratings between x95j non mini led tv vs Qn90a a mini led with much more LD zones.

[@universeobserver378]

I get a white box around text when the screen is mostly black; anybody else have this problem?

[@michaelfoster3441]

The s95b is the only Samsung TV I ever like , I saw the vizo p series quantum x and got to play around with the settings , It gets colors right way better than the qn90b and it's 3000 nits . I got some from friends who love vizo more than Sony, lg and Samsung , it's all about preference and what you consider great when you are spending your own money. Samsung, Sony and lg Panasonic is not for everybody.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@loki76 I calibrate tvs for living and had them in my home side by side , that's what manufactured want you to believe that all vizo's , hisense, and tcl tvs are shifty, and that's far from the truth .

[@michaellubeck8464]

vy the way i do see judder on this qn90b

[@thomasjacques5286]

Can someone point me to some basic settings so I can perform a poor man's calibration? I just took delivery of the 85" model and the only setting I changed was I set it to FILM Mode. I paid $24291 (before taxes) after the BB 10% discount after opening a BB card.

[@TechWithKG]

If your looking for accuracy check out Classy Tech. If your looking for picture pop you can try out my settings video I posted not long ago.

[@highdefnews]

Proud member of camp nit nut 😂

[@TechWithKG]

😂

[@christianmarmol3230]

Interesting review. But dam u sound so much more upbeat to talk about this tv, then you did for the C2. I guess you're just more impressed about this tv. Cool video though

[@wesb217]

Qn90a is slightly better than the qn90b according to rting real test and tool measurements

[@TechWithKG]

ill just copy and paste this reply I had responding to the claim RTINGs made most people who had the QN90A that went to the QN90B say its a big improvement. I definitely have to respectfully disagree with RTINGs as I don’t see it the same way. The improvements they made to local dimming (much brighter highlights), shadow detail, extra gaming features (4 2.1 ports, game mode picture mode customization presets, better LD in game mode), processing improvements (real depth enhancer and shape adaptive light) as a downgrade to the QN90A I like RTINGs but they don’t rate a lot of the gaming features or processing improvements on their scale they don’t factor a lot of these huge improvements in so they can’t really evaluate certain things fairly Again not trying to dismiss RTINGs but I think it’s fair to say they need to find a way to factor in these core elements to scoring modern day TVs.

[@moncsicsika]

@@TechWithKG At least RTNG took the time and effort (unlike you) and counted the local dimming zones and concluded that they got reduced in the new model by about 10% (65" went from 792 to 720 and 75" went from 1000 to 900)!

[@mabombo8221]

@@moncsicsika and you point is? The number of zones did go down, but the TV can now handle the zone number way better than qn90a.

[@mabombo8221]

It is better on paper. One thing to remember that the qn90b got an improvement to viewing angle layer which is known to effect the contrast with local dimming, color gamut and color volume. It is confirmed using the native contrast which didnt change between the two model. Another thing is that the qn90b got a way better local dimming than the qn90a which can be seen using rting real scene local dimming video. Put the qn90b and qn90a video next to each other and tell me which one is better. From my observation, the qn90b is able to keep the square and circle perfectly lit without lagging behind while the qn90a does dim the square and lags behind (which can be seen in the video). Third thing, the qn90b can track the EOTF accurately (outside of game mode) while the qn90a over brighten the scene. The qn90b got a huge upgrade in brightness for the lower windows, while losing brightness in the higher end (lower window are more important for the HDR). Another thing that you can see is the qn90b having a lower real scene highlight than the qn90a while having over 600 nits brighter in smaller highlight. The reason being is that rting real scene video focuses mostly on high window % which favor the qn90a. Hope this help you understand my point.

[@tecnogadgethd]

@@moncsicsika More is not always better. You can lower the count by 10% and improve the way they behave "aka" the algoritm for local dimming and get a better result. Plus the mini leds itself are different since they QN90B includes a hardware led improvement

[@joeywood4226]

This is killing me, what the actual F, so this is better than ritings makes it out to be…? Honestly so confused. Just gonna. Buy the newest neo qled 55”

[@PeterKramberger_1]

Oled is the future in tv and smartphone .samsung oed is in iphone

[@polishdude001]

You watch batman vs superman fight scene with a 4k bluray player on this tv and it'll burn your 👀

[@michaelfoster3441]

I disagree samsung is not close to sony processing and I like lg processing more also Panasonic kills samsung in processing ,I know you like samsung who over brightness everything , though the s95b is the best tv they ever made its way better the qn90b, the g2 is better than both as far as movie watching, saw both side next to a g2 few days ago side by by next to the g2 2 , the g2 had better natural skin tones ,

[@TechWithKG]

Agree to disagree. We don’t have Panasonic so I can’t speak on that. LG definitely isn’t on the same level. Samsung processing isn’t over brightening that’s the way Samsung electronics tunes a lot of their displays. When I speak on processing I speak on upscaling, clarity, and fine detail. I am a big fan of the artificial depth enhancements that Sony and Samsung does as well, again purists definitely will likely hate this 😂. That’s personally what I judge processing on. What your mentioning sounds more like accuracy overall and not processing. LG typically is pretty tame on processing it’s better this year but I still feel they are third.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@TechWithKG processing is also when your tvs don't have a lot of bugs my opinion samsung is 4th in processing , when firing up a menu it should be snappy , not sluggish like Samsung tvs , I think lg's processing is better , any time you can't calibrate a tv that's processing , qn90b and s95b a,re both difficult to calibrate, I am African American and we have many skin tones , samsung never gets are skin tones right. That's processing my friend.

[@NexGenTek]

@@michaelfoster3441 Not true. I think they display all skin tones perfectly don't go off of what you saw in store if you don't have the tv to play with you really can't have an opinion worth listening to. He has both and has compared them. Samsung's processing is on par with Sony and LG is third not to say it's bad but it's true.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@NexGenTek Yes it is true we play with the settings I calibrate my own tvs , my cousin bought the s95b be back , because of those same reasons , he has a A90j and the skins aren't like the s95b , I have never been a fan of Samsung tvs just for those reasons, Sony and Panasonic , and lg skin tones I can calibrate them were I need them to be , Samsung sucks, for me because they over brighten , there image , and ther tvs are buggy, if I pay 3 grand for a tv it shouldn't be buggy. .The A95k will fix these issues as far movie watching a much best image , and accurate, I like my image accurate.

[@PeterKramberger_1]

S95b win

[@kaylumstubblefield]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️

[@ZERO-jp6lm]

Second

[@jonathanm8828]

First

[@anabang1251]

?

[@chrisbytwerk3712]

Based on classy's measurements of the S95b. Do you believe it has a higher color volume then an Lg?