I've done this in the past with identical VCRs - each had separate, different problems (including physical damage to casing and boards). 3 Panasonic Hi-Fi stereo 6-head LP VCRs came my way once - all the same model (I believe they were NV-HD620 Mk2 with G-Code made in Japan around 1998 - nice little silver coloured units) - I made one complete working VCR out of the 3 - it not only looked good, but performed perfectly. I got to keep the 2 buggered machines and the 1 good one I rebuilt went back to the guy who brought the 3 to me (for a small fee). I've also done it with a couple of old colour TV sets - years ago - the workshop I was with at the time called it "reconditioning" - not just replacing a picture tube or a board - but right down to cosmetics - replacing front panels, switches, back covers, etc. Thanks for sharing this video. It's a good idea to salvage any undamaged parts from the donor machines and use for later if you need them for similar projects.
@errol80006 жыл бұрын
The VCR repair video's are always my favourites. Thanks.
@patrickjmorgan6 жыл бұрын
I wish Id come accross your page earlier- Im a 'experimenter' and ill fix most things, but you go the extra mile and show some great tips as how it should be done and some of the less-orthodox DIY tricks- which amatures like me thrive on with limited test equipment and no proffessional knowledge- just years of fixing stuff that broke in the house/car etc. Brilliant! I loved the surface-mounted chip repalcemnt!
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Less orthodox tricks? No these are tricks of the trade that every professional tech learns after years in the business. When you run a busy shop you look for ways to save time, as saving time means more units out the door, and more unit off the bench and out the door means more money in your pocket. In my prime, I was bring in about 175,000 a year in repair revenue to the shop, and a sizable portion of that was going in my pocket. Back in the 80's and 90's where the average wage was perhaps 30K a year we were making 75-80K a year. Those were the good old days, when VCRs were popular, and video stores ruled home entertainment. An average day for me was 10 VCRs. Out of those 10 5 would be cleaning only, 30.00 (15 in my pocket) the other 5 would have some mechanical or electrical problem, 60 - 85.00. (30-40 in my pocket) 3 TVs @ 100.00 (50 for me). So an average day, About 375 before taxes every day. Some days were slower so lets say 350 a day. About 7000 a month, 84,000 a year. That was my average for probably 15 of the 20 years I was in the repair business.
@tinusvogel70536 жыл бұрын
Wow my friend you surely known these complicated machines. Experience is the key. Keep it up. I enjoy watching and learning. Regards. Marthinus.
@MustermannAnybody6 жыл бұрын
Amazing work and great patience debugging problems. Wow!
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
It was a challenge. Anytime someone gets into a unit before I see it I never know what I am going to find. I am waiting for those with a keen eve spot some stuff.I won't say anything, as I have placed some things out of sequence in here to see who catches it.
@revolvingtoto0076 жыл бұрын
you really have some patience,when i got stuff like that coming in and see people already are being in the machine i send that back as is
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
Genius - Fantastic job. The VCRs before was in this Chinese repair store and I only pulled out chassis and check belt on only one VCR. It wasn't there in all of three VCRs how I found from this video. I couldn't find any, buy the new one. I got one VCR for free from my friend which was probably fell with broken board. The Chinese repair shop stole pulleys and other missing parts from all VCRs. I apologize 12voltvids and everybody who put any 23 comments under this video. I knew ahead the 2 VCRs was junk, but I only brought for parts. I am sorry to everybody who will watch this video
@rawr519196 жыл бұрын
As long as we got at least one working unit out of all this, it's fine. We forgive you.
@alainhardier6 жыл бұрын
congratulation;I am always surprised with your réflex to follow the fail with a great logic.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
I don't always succeed. I have an Aiwa multi system vcr that I have been battling for hours, and basically gave up for now.
@catswhisker38436 жыл бұрын
Again my compliments and thumbs up! You are also a mechanical engineer.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
24:33 Yes... T30 and T60 don't rewind at high speed because it may damage the tape at sudden speed variations and tape jerking.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
If t60 and under are on large hubs they will rewind at full speed.
@zx8401ztv6 жыл бұрын
Now that customer was really taking the piss, lets hope that he/she appreciated how much time you put into it. Normally all of those machines would be scrap, not worth the time. But the special functions were the reason.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I had an old Panasonic AGW1 but it is pretty much toast. Won't do anything, capacitors leaking everywhere. If I was still getting lots of PAL tapes to convert I would probably try to fix it, but the truth is I might see 1 or 2 PAL tapes a year, and my old Hitachi multi system machine still plays OK, and my stand alone PAL-NTSC converter does a super job, so I just do it that way. Don't get many conversions now. In the 80's and 90's I had a half dozen tapes a day to transfer. Lots of home videos for people to share with family across the pond. Did transfers to pal and from pal. Now days though there is nothing. Nobody uses tape anymore, even DVD is on the way out.
@zx8401ztv6 жыл бұрын
Video tapes of the vhs kind were never a good way to keep recordings, but by the time i bought a vcr there was no other system. Betamax was better but not the common system. Vhs was very common, and crap, home movies and holidays were recorded on vhs, and marrages often made it to super vhs. Dvds are not dead yet, trying to protect newer forms of storage from pirates would be a pain, so shops sell dvds. Even though i stopped watching tv years ago (utter crap), i keep the old jvc hr3320 piano key video, or gut buster as i know it :-D
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate very much check ebay how much they sell for broken ones
@wendellporter48106 жыл бұрын
i still do have alot hifi vcrs i still keep going my fav is the sony slv-hf760,even got a denon laserdisc player rca ced player and a sony super betamax sl-hfr70 and the audio processor for it, i solved the tape loading issue completely tore it the tape loading unit down cleaned and regreased it next onto the alignment issue it has i just wish the person i got it from didn't play with it since its mine now i will try and get it working right
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
I have an Aiwa MX100 that I really should fix. That one does a really good job of conversions.The one I was given also had been serviced by someone else, and I just haven't gotten around to that one, but just might get into it now.
@RobertKohut6 жыл бұрын
Nice!! You got some skills!! VCR= Very Complacent Repair
@crashbandicoot4everr6 жыл бұрын
Nice repair. You actually played a SECAM tape there. You can tell just by looking at the red and blue-purple artifacts/color noise that SECAM does and the fact that is in French. :)
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
12voltvids didn't play any SECAM video, he played PAL video. The SECAM video wasn't only in French it was in all Eastern Europe, but French SECAM is different than Easten Europe. French SECAM has nobody else only France and maybe French former colonies. Color noise it comes probably from digital converter in VCR, because the converter is not perfect you know South Korea in this time was not very good compare today is much better.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
That tape was PAL. It may well have originated in SECAM, and was converted to PAL. There were 6 different flavours of video, based on 4 systems. NTSC PAL, PAL M, PAL N, MESCAN and SECAM. The 3 flavors of PAL is because Brazil and Argentina use different versions. Most PAL uses a 4.43 color carrier frequency, and operates in a 625 / 50 field world. One of them ( thing i t was pal M uses a 3.58 carrier for color, and the other PAL N was a 525 / 60 version with a 4.43 color carrier) Then there are the 2 SECAM formats. The french were all on their own, and the ONLY VCR that I know of that did the french SECAM was the Panasonic AGW1. The other secam was called MESECAM, which stod for Middle East SECAM, which all the other SEcAM countries used. This machine will output a SECAM signal, but not one compatable with french TVs. I actually have a multi system TV, I should haul out just for fun. I bought it many moons ago, and it was probably 800.00 for a little 14" set. I had it because I needed to verify quality checks when I was making tapes in PAL or SECAM/MESECAM. This little JVC TV will receive / decode PAL, SECAM, NTSC and NTSC 4.43 which is essentially an NTSC tape playing on a modified PAL recorder. That broken deck, the one with the missing parts on the transport, I am quite sure I can get that to work as a systems converter so I can demonstrate and play with the multi sysstem TV on a future video.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
OOPS! I just went out and played that tape again. Sure enough the unit identifies the source tape as SECAM. I had initially thought it was a PAL converted tape, but nope it is really a SECAM tape. No wonder it looks like crap!
@t0nito6 жыл бұрын
When I watched that tape I was pretty sure it was SECAM too.
@t0nito6 жыл бұрын
Don't be ridiculous, he DID play a SECAM tape, and that tape is clearly from France.
@olnnn6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I was wondering if it had the same problem as the SV 7000 I have issues with, but it seems these ones were WAY worse off. The SV7000 started having something that looks like a tracking issue one day, it looks as if the tracking is constantly being adjusted.
@classicalmusic24252 жыл бұрын
Very skillful video. Thanks. Mine does play PAL well (showing onto my USB capture which can capture both PAL and NTSC and has no need for conversion) but when I play other type of PAL or NTSC on SV-5000W it shows black and white and very bad (only part of screen showing some bad picture and rest is really bad). What could be the problem? Ground contacts helped with minor snow but not any more. All transistors look not popped but I have to still voltmeter them. Thanks
@jasejj6 жыл бұрын
These units seem to hold up to punishment in the main, and they still fetch a tidy sum on eBay. I managed to get hold of one in a batch of broken stuff (mostly DVD players but I got a HDD/DVD recorder and a fairly new LG Blu-Ray) from a pawn shop for £5 for about 8 pieces of kit. There's a 1000uF cap which seems to always fail on these in the power supply which was causing it to fail to boot up, and the mode switch needed a clean but that was it. Must get round to selling it on. I don't think the guy in the store realised what he had.
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
This machine is called World Wide system because does not require a special TV system. Either Pal Ntsc or Secam TV will work. Other systems require a PAL tv for instance.
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
So you can take... to Middle East and play PAL tapes frlm France.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I am aware what they can do. I had an agw1 which was the first multisystem converter.
@steveclough67946 жыл бұрын
Great vid considered retro now state of the art not so long ago
@shaun91076 жыл бұрын
The first one got me when the deck fell out of it , BEST YET LOL
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Yes they were all like that. Someone had been into them for sure. I was just glad I was able to get one of them going. Make myself a few $.
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
Chinese repair shop before didn't put back the screws
@shaun91076 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling , repairs for me to do are getting thiner & thiner as everyone is binning . I am not getting much exercise in repair apart from my own .
@shaun91076 жыл бұрын
China ? all they can do is push bitterns all day for anything LOL mind you , they are doing this EVERY WARE , no one can put there Phones down relying on the Smart grid . No one knows what a screwdriver is
@johnmarus83526 жыл бұрын
Hi 12voltvids. What did you end up doing to the broken front circuit board? Did you end up repairing it or swapping it for the board in the other unit? I didn't remember if you had stated that in your video or not. It would have been great to see how you would repair a broken board like that. Thanks so much for these great videos! Take care.
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
16:10 Would you work in a 1978 Panasonic PV1210 "Tank" VCR? Japanese quality...
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I have worked on them. That is what I learned VHS on. I probably wouldn't touch one today as no parts available.
@DeadKoby6 жыл бұрын
This VCR is called Bob Marley, cuz it be jammin'
@TVTCL-w1p Жыл бұрын
Can you say me how to remove the mainboard from the case? thanks!
@barrynewell37245 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you could guess what would need replacing on my Samsung SV5000W SQPB where it won't covert PAL-NTSC-SECAM, etc. It does load tapes but just has static/tracking on screen. Thanks in advance.
@12voltvids5 жыл бұрын
Could be the digital conversion board, or a problem in the power supply. Never have had any problems like that. Only mechanical problems on these. I haven't worked on many of these either. Perhaps 5 in my life as they were not that popular here. Worked on 2 AGW1 Panasonic converters.
@aidanfranits13396 жыл бұрын
Any reason these VCRs convert from composite video to composite video as opposed to VHS composite to component to composite video?
@supermasterPIK4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any Betamax tutorial? Muy SL20 Is great...I have a Toshiba that needs belt replacement AND I have the brtls already. model VM or so.
@station2406 жыл бұрын
Leaving the belts out is just annoying, as is no screws. I've taken to putting parts into a resealable plastic bag, which is left in the machine, if it's a slow project.
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
VCRs were in Chinese repair shop before
@FindLiberty6 жыл бұрын
Yep station240 - Sometime those smaller bags even go inside other bigger bags, stored inside machines. That helps pre-sort a BIG pile of parts when reassembling the unit, maybe several months later... They help contain that greasy gizmo nicely, just watch out for static discharge damage with sensitive electronics.
@dirkbonesteel6 жыл бұрын
Machine 2 has a European semi-rectangular hook-up plug. Why don't we use those plugs?
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take heat for this one... Because we are smart enough to figure out which plug goes in which socket. BTW that is called a SCART connector. It passes audio and video, and some types pass S video or RGB.. It makes plugging a VCR into a TV simple, but also can limit the way things are connected.
@targetrender95292 жыл бұрын
Is the ntsc video playback good quality on these compared to Sony or JVC VHS machines?
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
It's good. I will be doing a video on one of these units soon, as I was given one (from the estate clear out) that I have yet to plug in. So I will give it a good test run.
@targetrender95292 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids awesome!
@circuitblog016 жыл бұрын
good job my freind but have you notice that there are not many components in this set and its all plastic
@teddlear970 Жыл бұрын
I have comets across the screen in play mode, on two of these machines ? What's the fix. Do you know ? Thanks
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a grounding issue. I believe i have done a video on this problem on my channel.
@teddlear970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'll look and see if I can find the video. The Samsung SV-7000w is a rare machine. I save memories for people. @@12voltvids
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
@@teddlear970 the 5000 is also pretty rare. I picked mine up for 20 bucks. Use it strictly for pal/secam to ntsc conversion and it does an excellent job of that. There is a cap in the power supply that is really common on that one as well. Been offered big bucks to part with it.
@teddlear970 Жыл бұрын
I have two 5000, and one 7000. One 5000 works perfect, one 5000 and the 7000 both work great except for the comets. I want to get both fixed. No one here in Salem, Oregon can fix them. I'm looking for a fixer. Thanks for the info@@12voltvids
@supermasterPIK4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have Many questioms for you. Bought this machine one Month ago (I already have the 3000 model with flip panel working peefectly). In my unit Power light blinks = capacitors bad. This machine was $3000 when new AND there's a conpany which sells ir For $1200 Mine was $20. Is ir todo hard to chance them?
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
Hello.. I have the same VCR but power ligjt flashes 3 times (power supply failure) Do you have a schematic or something? I need uF for replace capacitors... Thanks.
@videoman88903 жыл бұрын
I just picked up this exact machine. When I go to put a tape in, it wont take the tape automatically in the machine. I hear a noise and then the unit just shuts off.
@stlandi3 жыл бұрын
Hi after several years I decided to reuse my SV 5000. Unfortunately any tape I insert , when I push play, the magnetic tape gets stuck. Any idea what could cause that? thanks in advance
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Mode switch? Belt?
@technoboy-allinOne6 жыл бұрын
Genious 👍
@fadhlematrook12486 жыл бұрын
good job and repair
@GustoTheGamer6 жыл бұрын
Does the head drum runs slower with a pal tape?
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
no only speed of tape is different
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Yes head drum runs slower in PAL and SECAM. NTSC runs 1800 RPM, and PAL is 1500 RPM It is based on the frame rate. Head rotates 1 revolution for each frame (2 fields) 30 frames x 60 seconds is 1800 RPM. PAL and SCAM is a 25 frame system, so 25 frames x 60 seconds = 1500 RPM. This is why VHS quality on PAL and SECAM is lower than NTSC. Only about 200 lines resolution as opposed to 240 for NTSC because the drum speed is slower and thus the writing speed lower. Lower writing seed means less information to tape.
@GustoTheGamer6 жыл бұрын
12voltvids Thanks for the info!!! 👍
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
PAL vs. NTSC PAL usually has 576 visible lines compared with 480 lines with NTSC, meaning that PAL has a 20% higher resolution, in fact it even has a higher resolution than Enhanced Definition standard (854x480).[citation needed] Most TV output for PAL and NTSC use interlaced frames meaning that even lines update on one field and odd lines update on the next field. Interlacing frames gives a smoother motion with half the frame rate. NTSC is used with a frame rate of 60i or 30p whereas PAL generally uses 50i or 25p; both use a high enough frame rate to give the illusion of fluid motion. This is due to the fact that NTSC is generally used in countries with a utility frequency of 60 Hz and PAL in countries with 50 Hz, although there are many exceptions.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
You are confusing scanning lines with horizontal resolution. Horizontal resolution determines how much detail a picture will contain and it is based on 1 scanning line. PAL has 576 active scanning lines in a piicture where as NTSC has 480 scanning lines. Remember horizontal detail is based on a single line. Scanning lines is the vertical resolution. Yes PAl has higher vertical resolution, but at a slower frame rate, 50 fields vs 60. In a field rate, which you have to consider as we are talking interlaced video, there are 288 lines in a PAL field vs 240 lines in a vertical field. 2 fields make a frame, but because movement takes place between fields, we look at a single field as the resolution for analog video. At 1500 rpm, the head to tape speed limits the horizontal resolution on PAL/SECAM to less that 200 lines. Typically between 190 and 200 depending on tape quality. So 200 lines horizontal resolution 288 lines vertical resolution. NTSC because of the higher drum speed is about 240 lines horizontal resolution on a 240 line field. Therefore an NTSC VHS tape will look better than a PAL VHS tape. Open broadcast is totally different. The NTSC system was limited to about 4.2MHz bandwidth which would deliver about 360 lines of horizontal resolution over a broadcast transmitter because of the audio carrier at 4.5MHz. PAL in many countries used a 6.5MHz audio carrier so the horizontal resolution was closer to 500 lines. NTSC analog satellite also used a 6.2/6.8MHz audio carrier, and the horizontal resolution on those signals was around 500 lines as well. Enter digital video. The Spec for digital video on the NTSC system is 720x480 pixels. EDTV for NTSC is even higher, 852x480 pixels. All the first generation plasma and LCD screens were based on the EDTV platform, including those sold in europe. So they were downscaling the 576 received lines to 480 because the panels were fixed count, so you couldn't just squeeze in more lines. PAL digital video specificion was 720x576 but many consumer cameras did not record as such. Most recorded 720x480, and just scaled the analog video output to the PAL equivalent on output. Recently I bought a used camera off craigslist. The guy didn't tell me it was a European camera and I only figured it out when I went to edit, and my editor complained because the file was written in 25 frame mode. When I put the camera in HD it was 1920x1080 50i when I put it down to SD it was 720 x 480 50i. There was no way to use this camera in conjunction with my 60i 30p cameras. It had settings for 50i 25p only. So I kept the spare battery, and sold it for the same price I paid to some other unsuspecting fool that probably won't know any different until he wants to edit his video and burn the contents to a DVD. Then he will figure out that the frame rate is different and most domestic DVD players will reject the resulting disk because it will be identified as a pal source, even though PAL and NTSC don't exist in the digital domain.
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
Is it true that peope leave piles of old VCRs for you on your workshop to repair them?
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have had many VCRs given to me.
@catsbyondrepair6 жыл бұрын
Most newer TVs can be fed a pal signal
@58punjabi5 жыл бұрын
I have same Samsung 5000 unit, not playing the tape? can you fix it? do you have contact info?
@12voltvids5 жыл бұрын
I can look at it, but can not guarantee that it will be repairable due to availability of parts. If unit can't be fixed there is no charge worst case you are looking at is shipping back and forth if you want the non repairable unit back. My contact info is on my main youtube page.
@58punjabi5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the prompt reply. Could not find the contact info on your main page. My VCR was stored in my bedroom closet for almost 7-8 years and forgot about it. Now when I turned it on, first the tape got stuck and will not play. No reverse and no forward. I opened it up and got the tape out.
@FindLiberty6 жыл бұрын
MASTERFUL
@Brocambro12 жыл бұрын
have the same unit impossible to find anyone that can fix it sustain damage while moving broke the front panel, and no one has the skills to fix it. Those guys who live in your area are surely lucky.
@NunYa95311 ай бұрын
I can fix it but you're not gonna want to pay for it.
@Brocambro111 ай бұрын
@@NunYa953 sure, how can I get in touch with you, do u live in the states?
@NunYa95311 ай бұрын
@@Brocambro1 Colorado
@Brocambro111 ай бұрын
@@NunYa953 same here...lol send me your contact infos I will reach out.
@sebastiancengarle28292 жыл бұрын
cabezal sv5000 cabezal podes conseguirme uno
@supermasterPIK3 жыл бұрын
also I have a DVD Recorder and VHS combo Philips made in Hungary. I knew they shut off factory for outsourcing machines in China
@infinitecanadian5 жыл бұрын
Parts robbers sometimes make the job a little harder, don't they?
@12voltvids5 жыл бұрын
Yes sure do. In the end the 2 wrecked machines were recycled. Got the customers machine going. Made nothing on this except the KZbin cash. Like most repairs. I make nothing. I pay myself about 10 bucks an hour if that. A few paid repairs pay well, but most don't.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR6 жыл бұрын
I wonder is this from a place that teaches TV & Video servicing or what.
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Don't know the history but the owner of it is a viewer. Perhaps he can share history. I got 3 machines in, 2 identical units, and was asked if I could make one machine work. That was the project, and I figured it out, but it took awhile. He said I could keep the donor machines, so perhaps some day I will attempt to repair the 2 broken boards. The one that been dropped had not only the front board broken, but the main board also has a major crack across it. Not holding my breath on that one.
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
All VCRs were in Chinese repair shop
@wendellporter48106 жыл бұрын
looks like the chinese shop crucified them lol
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
yes
@MrApril19776 жыл бұрын
😊🌟👍🍀
@wendellporter48106 жыл бұрын
i dont like working on things either that someone has already been into seen some screwed up stuff over 20 years lol
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. That was the joke. 50.00 per hour, 75, if you watch, 100 if you help. We had a sign that hung in the shop I used to work in that said that. It is bad enough figuring out what blew up, but when you have to figure out what someone else fu**ed up in addition to what blew up... I cut the scene, but on one of these units, magic smoke flew out of one of them when I plugged it in. Perhaps a future video. I'll call it when the fit hits the shan. How does that sound. On 1 of the 3 units the one that has a crack in the board, I guess after moving it one of the traces shorted, as it did power up, and then one of the caps in the power supply let go with a big cloud of smoke and my comment was, that's not good. I pulled the board and noticed a crack across it. How it worked for a couple of minutes is beyond me.
@plesio28306 жыл бұрын
I fixed lot of VCRs in my life, but just more basic stuff than this one please read on the top what was the problem
@wendellporter48106 жыл бұрын
yep i know all about i did alot of service calls to replace stk ic's in rear projection tv's when i lived in ontario atleast 15 years ago now had one set guy tried to replace stk himself, damaged the traces, shorted out b+ to the ic with solder blob and killed the voltage for that, so i repaired the damage and whole time guy was looking over my should i said a few words under my breath after i left that day, and guy got a big bill
@12voltvids6 жыл бұрын
I had one goof watch me fix his big screen tv. When he questioned the charges and asked for a break down of the charges I got cute. Part cost 42.55. Service call charge 40.00. Labour to replace part 20.00. Knowing which part to replace 100.00. He wasn't impressed.
@wendellporter48106 жыл бұрын
Nobo Bobo me too and seen a lot of them played with by someone that didn't understand what they where doing don't mean to sound like an ass, and i know people like to try and fix stuff themselves to save some cash but could very well do more bad then good and i had to deal with a lot of the bad