Ultimate Land Rover / Range Rover Diagnostic Tool Test - GAP IID vs. Otofix vs. Launch vs. Topdon!

[@SamsMotors]

Corrections: It turns out the D1 Lite DOES actually have Bi-directional control. I somehow missed this in my testing - but it makes it an even better value proposition now!

[@DJTechReviews]

Would love to see you do some more retrofitting. I’ve seen a few conversations in the forums about retrofitting the heated and cooled seats. I noticed yours don’t have the cooled - could be an idea? If that’s even possible. Apparently one chap got pretty far with it but got stumped on the wiring looms. If not that, maybe retrofitting the DVD screen headrests, however, that might not be your cup of tea and probably not worth it. It’s that curiosity of if it is possible or not. Much like the swathes of people trying to upgrade new Apple products SSDs and RAM.

[@SamsMotors]

@@DJTechReviews Cheers for the comment, and great suggestions. The cooled seats would be a good test - but I'm not sure I actually want them. The heating in the non-cooled version that I have is actually superior, and being in mild Ireland, I use the heating a lot more than I would cooling. If I can find the parts to do DVD headrests etc I'd definitely be keen!

[@rpc2210]

Golly, Sam, now I'm confused. The Otofix website comparison between the D1 & D1LITE would suggest that only the D1 has bi-directional control.

[@rpc2210]

BTW, thanks for the informative videos. My L322 TDV8 is on it's way to me this very moment!

[@almac414]

Does the Topdon have the ability to configure the air suspension heights on the L322 @SamsMotors? You can pick them up for about £650 which seems reasonable for me given I have several cars and also work on those of some friends too. However, the L322 is the likely candidate for most use and so there's no point in going for the D1 if there are some key bits missing over the IID.

[@happyjohnwalks]

L322 Westminster owner. I saw an add for Carly, followed it and it was just £45. 81, tried it thinking it wouldn't be much cop but it found 29 issues and cleared them all, I now know I had an issue with an ERG air pressure sensor, however it doesn't seem to be repeating, much like the water in the fuel issue it showed, quite impressed considering the cost!

[@robholland1937]

The support from GAP is worth the extra cost too. Pat there is simply the best. 100% customer focussed

[@LDsgarage]

I agree! I also have the GAP tool, Pat was great and answered a few of my questions when learning to use the tool, so yes, it is worth the price, in my opinion. 👍

[@-zerocool-]

As someone who always buys dealer level scan tools, this was a very helpful video thanks!

[@paulfin100]

Just purchased the D1 Lite on the back of this video. Cheers Sam, great work. We are in the market for an L322 here in Ireland (crew cabbed of course, we aren't all crazy paying the ffrr roax tax 😂) Will be bringing the tool with me on viewings.

[@staths77]

As always, another great video from Sam. I would really appreciate a more complete guide to using the Gap iid tool for novices like me. Especially the configuration part.

[@SamsMotors]

Definitely, I'll add it to the video list. I'll have to see if Gap want to sponsor a video for me 😅

[@DiscoGruffalo]

For me the IID tool is worth the money for the programble suspension height settings alone. Defender owners think nothing of spending 500 quid on a 4 inch lift. The IID gives you 4 set heights for that money, plus all the diagnostics, live data, ccf and two way control. Plus updates for life.

[@aaravgupta4441]

@Tuppy14710 the updates cost extra init

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

You should do an updated video on the D1 light with the latest software installed

[@jimsmotoringmayhem]

Great video as usual Sam, the most adventurous thing I did with my iiD tool was to add a spare key!.. it worked a treat!.. rather surprisingly for me 😂

[@DryUrEyesMate]

I've been using launch for over ten years and compared to snap-on and all the other brands is the best in my Imo

[@DJTechReviews]

Ah yes, Sam’s back! Been waiting for the next instalment for a while. Great video as always!

[@SamsMotors]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@modelman1400]

Will this work for my 2001 P38 DHSE??

[@Thehunter85]

Great and useful informations

[@eoghanfla6343]

By any chance did you test these 3 units for key fob programming? I’ve seen another lad use the d1 lite to do an LR3 key, I was pretty annoyed then when I tried the function on my more expensive Autel and it can’t do it.

[@solentlifeuk]

One function that I cannot find reference to : L322 Camera diagnostics .... recently replaced front cameras on Vogue SE 4.4TDV8 2012 .... and video display for those two cameras is laid on side 90 deg to right .. all other cameras correct. Is there any 'tool' to reset the video display ??

[@SamsMotors]

Are you sure the cameras are installed in the correct orientation? I've not seen anything in the IID tool regarding this, but my car doesn't have the surround view camera system.

[@micklamb9942]

Great content as always Sam and a good review

[@KenanTuncaydin]

Hello i have a question and i need help. :) i have a l322 2003 model range rover. Problem is i can not calibration the height. With launch the car dont accept. With software.. or obd2 i must buy? Gap tool i can not buy because i live in turkey. :) jlr sdd not working right? İ just need to calibration the height. Nothing else.. thanks very mutch

[@KFORDYCE73]

Great video. Really useful for me personally all be it too late. I have a 2002 L322 V8 4.4 petrol (BMW) and the OBD tool I purchased will not recognise the VIN no. This means I can’t access suspension settings and such like. It does say the icarsoft should do what I needed so currently trying to sort it out with the supplier. Keep up the great videos. I always look forward to them and they never disappoint. 👍

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks for watching! Which iCarsoft did you get?

[@KFORDYCE73]

LR V3.0. It works on my 2015 Sport.

[@rcsimfanaticstv453]

Hi Sam I bought an icarsoft jlr v3.0 with the intent to do transmission programing but it seems it doesn't have that option. I thought according to your analysis it can't only do suspension ride height. ONE OTHER THING IS I WONDER IF I NEED TO UPDATE BEFORE USE.

[@SamsMotors]

Hi, what do you mean by transmission programming?

[@DavidPugsley]

Hi i have a l405 and thinking of changing the transmission oil does th otofix tell you the transmission oil temp

[@Uksus131]

HI Sam ! i use a tool called think diag, does everything the same as iid but costs millions pounds cheaper :)

[@georgeionescu6615]

😊do you have a link mate? Thanks

[@MJmarais241]

Think diag can't change airsuspension compressor from Hitachi to amk

[@CristianZamora]

How about an OBD monitor, just a screen with gauges for LR4 diésel?

[@Paul_i_is]

Sam I would much appreciate a tool that can clone a tpms sensor I’ve had one go on me I tried to clone a new one with icarsoft and it initially went away but now still comes up less often but still occasionally says no signal received ? Many thanks Paul

[@greenisleoverland6469]

Hi Sam, Great vid there and thanks for taking the time to compare these... I was looking for a Topdon and when clicking on your link, it presents a TOPDON ArtiDiag Pro rather than the Topdon Phoenix Lite 2. I take it that the ArtiDiag Pro is very different to the Lite 2?

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks for the comment and sub! It looks like the Phoenix lite has been discontinued now, but the ArtiDiag Pro is pretty much an equivalent machine at a lower price. At a glance it looks like it supports pretty much all the features of the Phoenix including Bi-directional control and ECU coding, and it'd be a great choice for Land Rovers any most other makes too.

[@adzy166]

Can the iiD tool program keys for a 2006 l322? I only have one key and the remote doesn’t work so I’d like to buy 2 flip style keys, cut them and then program the fobs to remote unlock, start vehicle etc.

[@jeffreygwinn5081]

I've used it to program keys for my LR3

[@Βόρειο_Σέλας]

Hello from Australia! Great video mate. I have the 2013 Defender and I am not sure I need anything complicated, but if you were in my shoes what would you recommend?

[@SamsMotors]

Cheers mate, for a Td4 defender I’d probably just go with a relatively basic generic code reader, as all you’ll need is basic engine, ABS and SRS code reading. Probably something like one of Topdon’s basic models.

[@Βόρειο_Σέλας]

@@SamsMotors Cheers, that was the feeling I was getting.

[@445fhn]

Being JLR, does the Mongoose SDD as used on Jaguar work on RR?

[@swisscarmb]

Seems Otofix is a Autel copy. Great job. didn't know about Topdon.

[@SamsMotors]

It’s actually owned by Autel, just a separate brand. Thanks for watching!

[@swisscarmb]

@@SamsMotors i thought so, because the same icons. But definitely cheaper than the Maxisys. Anyway, your test of the three is a good base for somebody who want to buy one. thumps up 👍

[@dkastra26]

Im so confused. Had a cheaper Launch crp919x bt and i could do more things against my new launch x431 pro dyno 😢. Ok the dyno have 37+ Tools but the normal things are better with crp. And no coding possible with Range rovers? I have a evoque 2016

[@davealbon2085]

My interior fan recently stopped working on my l322...after asking on fb i decided to replace the hedgehog and it worked! Would this equipment have known that was the problem? Tia

[@Ryan-kf4zu]

Hi Sam, do any of these do TCM Calibration. I need a new one but need to code the VIN

[@Ryan-kf4zu]

Did you find a machine to do this?

[@pkerr061]

What's your opinion on Nanocom? I'm aware its landrover products only but similar price to the IID?

[@SamsMotors]

For the earlier generation of Land Rovers (Discovery 2, P38 RR, Freelander 1), Nanocom is the best tool by a big margin. On later generations (L322, D3/D4 etc) it's quickly outclassed by other tools unfortunately.

[@kriswilliams8233]

Ever considered putting the iCarsoft LR v3.0 into the mix? I use it and never had issues. It doesn’t allow CCF option but certainly does all the rest. I’ve just calibrated suspension following front bag split and set it up perfectly, seems to follow exact same procedure. There are all the usual extras - tight tolerance, rear brakes active damper cal and a load of other calibrations. I use it on my dad’s L320 and my L322 (no VIN lock) to do all the above procedures and it was only £170 RRP. Just a thought - I’ve always toyed with the idea of Gap but haven’t found a need yet and the car always needs the £500 for something else 😢

[@SamsMotors]

Cheers for the comment! I actually did a comparison last year with the iCarsoft vs. IID vs. generic OBD2, and the iCarsoft did pretty well.

[@kriswilliams8233]

@@SamsMotorsMy apologies, I forgot that you had, I was thinking that was the v2. There have been a couple of updates since and I don’t have to put the VIN in anywhere near as many times as previously. Apologies again for not doing enough research prior to commenting.

[@SamsMotors]

Not at all, it'd be good to compare this iCarsoft again if it's been updated for sure.

[@TheSOHARA1]

What would you recommend for P38.... the nanocom?

[@SamsMotors]

Yes, there's not really another option that's as powerful for the P38.

[@jerrygreene7139]

Sam, thanks for that video. The 2 messages I get on the dash are “Service Required” and “Oil Change Required”. From your review, it looks like any of the 3 tools would be able to reset those message, right?

[@SamsMotors]

Hey Jerry, Yep! Simple service reset required.

[@davidforbes6250]

98 Disco 1 tdi, glad I don't need a diagnostic tool for every drive.

[@andrewmitchell6351]

Indeed - seem to recall reading off an ABS problem with a paperclip and counting the blink codes. I now have an L320 2.7 which has a couple of annoying faults that I'm not able to fully diagnose with the iCarSoft fault code reader I have been lent, as it doesn't read the 6 digits, but only 4 .... think I'll take the plunge and give the Otofix a spin!

[@SamsMotors]

300 Tdi? Just need to bring a few head gaskets instead 😅

[@aaravgupta4441]

Does it cover more functions compared to autel mp808k or less?

[@Craig-c5e]

Hi Sam, I have recently changed the front air spring on my 2006 TD6 as it was perished. Air suspension is now working but still getting the air suspension fault on the dash! Code C1A20-64 has come up on my icarsoft v2. Any ideas please thanks!

[@SamsMotors]

Hi, that fault code relates to the air tank filling too slowly / or not at all. Did you have this fault code before the strut replacement? If you did, I suspect the compressor is worn out from overworking due to the leaking strut. If not, I suspect you have a leak at the air connection to the new strut. It would be worth spraying some soapy water around to see if you can see any air escaping.

[@Craig-c5e]

@@SamsMotors thanks! No had no fault before this. Okay thanks for the info! I was thinking do I need to have the air suspension recalibrated after the new bag? Thanks again

[@SamsMotors]

@@Craig-c5e as long as you didn’t disturb the height sensor, it won’t need calibration 👍

[@Craig-c5e]

@@SamsMotors well I did unplug it and move it about a bit at first as I thought initially that was the fault and not the bag! Thanks for help once again Sam!

[@Craig-c5e]

So I think I will get a calibration done as my next step then!

[@highlandmalt6368]

Thanks for such a well put together guide - I have a 3.6 L322, but have a number of other vehicles too, including a pre-OBD2 Bentley, so I'm very interested in the TopDon as it appears to have the correct adapter for the Bentley (to be confirmed, the Bentley might be a proprietary design). I don't think i can justify the IID due to it being locked to the L322 and if I ever needed any configuration I could just pay someone else to do that, I guess.

[@SamsMotors]

You’re welcome! Jealous of the Bentley! One thing to remember is that on older vehicles there will usually be less service functions etc available on the diag tool, so you may not get the full benefit of the Topdon’s capabilities on it - but like you say, there aren’t many options that will work at all with older vehicles.

[@highlandmalt6368]

@@SamsMotors yes, I think the information would be pretty basic on the Bentley - misfire cylinder 5 or something like that. I know there is a separate test box just for the HVAC and another for the suspension, so those are two areas that presumably wouldn't be covered. But I also have 4 audi so I think that TopDon would be the one for me.

[@michaelnoyes4817]

What can they do on p38"s?

[@richardhunt1384]

Top Don is still cheaper than say a brand new Snap On diagnostic scanner, ours in the thousands and still uses a cable not Bluetooth dongle and still probably has the same functionality as the TD.

[@SamsMotors]

Yeah, I'd say it blows most of the traditional pro tools out of the water in terms of value!

[@Namibia_Diagnostics]

The Otofix D1 Lite has bidirectional functions, it just doesn't do coding and all that. Just test it

[@wadihakim5252]

Its not a fair wy you dont dont take the launch x431 v to compare with the topdon instead the 919

[@stuart6973]

Love the craic

[@stop_lying_bro]

Don't know if i missed it or im not properly informed but is the GAP Tool not bi-directional? If so, it really is the perfect Tool and I'll put one on order now.

[@SamsMotors]

It is bidirectional yes 👍

[@stop_lying_bro]

@@SamsMotors perfect, thanks!

[@eriksony6398]

The Launch elite Rand Rover scanner can do the same things.

[@SamsMotors]

Rand Rover?

[@dinosshed]

Wonder if these work with a td5

[@SamsMotors]

Disco Td5? You’ll get some functionality but not a huge amount. Check the websites for full coverage

[@noelcahill6707]

Iv a ranger rover sport im going moving it to coils

[@mikea9521]

Topdon and launch are basically the same format, but topdon has many more features. Otofix is a Autel tool. . Otofix is awesome, and so is topdon. I own both and do full programming with topdon.

[@wernerseliteauto]

I also own the Topdon, but it can not program keys for my 2012 Rover Sport.

[@mikea9521]

@@wernerseliteauto do you own the Topdon Phoenix max? Or Topdon TNINJA?

[@wernerseliteauto]

I own the Phoenix Smart and the T-Ninja add-on kit. Wish Topdon had a larger programmable network support for VW/Audi programming. Super disappointed after paying 1k a year to be updated and every file I need comes back as “not available”

[@mikea9521]

I have not had many issues with Audi programming with the Phoenix max. I was actually able to program key fob and code a used instrument cluster on 2015 Vw jetta, which is a very tough project to complete. But Topdon got it done for me. Goes for a yearly subscription. Yeah, I get it, but every tool has that, Autel is $1300 a year.

[@wernerseliteauto]

@@mikea9521right. And if about everything we attempted to do worked, I wouldn’t be so disappointed. Programming Euro cars leaves a lot to be desired unless you are buying a 2k a year subscription to the manufacturer software.

[@stuarth43]

thanks bought Topdon ebay Au 1000 , have a D4 SDV6 2015 and a TDV6 2010, have carsoft but it does not do much , brmmm brmmm

[@musbaubabajide559]

How much is this

[@DryUrEyesMate]

You forgot to mention that topdon and otofix rent the software from LAUNCH

[@robertbcope]

My gut says all of these systems are using some base, core system to start with; just different skins on it.

[@SamsMotors]

You're correct in that they're all running Android, with a custom skin. However the the software "app" that is running within Android is where the differing functionality comes from.

[@ozzbear6221]

No mention of nanocom or britpart lynx evo. I have the lynx and it seems to do everything but will probably upgrade to a nanocom as my addiction to Land Rover products seems here to stay😂

[@SamsMotors]

Nanocom is a bit weak for the L322 to be honest. It's in its element with the D2 and P38 which aren't well covered by these types of tools

[@TP4MBH69]

Hi Sam, do you have any suggestions or link for a Fuel pump tank sender module for a Range Rover Vogue tdv8 4.4 diesel 2011 model ? SALLMAMH3BA353397 . I would appreciate it if you could direct me to an OEM version . Thanks Sam !

[@leeford7843]

The launch is a knock off. The genuine launch tool is considerably more expensive and their website even has a warning about grey imports/clones from Amazon etc.. Autel tech same scenario😮

[@SamsMotors]

It’s almost certainly the same thing being sold at a premium. Launch licenses their software/branding, so there is no such thing as a genuine version.

[@leeford7843]

Ok, my mistake then, does autel do the same? I've been researching for ages and still not purchased anything, I just don't want to waste 4-£500😢

[@SamsMotors]

@@leeford7843 Depends what you want it for, if general use for multiple makes/models I was very impressed by the Otofix D1 lite, (which is itself a brand made by Autel). amzn.to/4f7Yua3

[@leeford7843]

@@SamsMotors OK, thanks, but why do the genuine autel, launch & otofix UK websites not have these models for sale - and they even have warnings about fakes/clones not being able to update etc? Sorry for the questions, I just don't want to get ripped off or damage my vehicles with a dodgy product

[@SamsMotors]

@@leeford7843 if you type in Otofix into Google you get about 5-6 companies coming up, all claiming to be the official UK retailer. In reality they are all just resellers selling the same product. Any warnings about others being fake are bogus, as they’re trying to compete in a crowded market space, where they’re all selling the exact same product from China.