The Ultimate Land Rover / Range Rover Diagnostic Tool Test - GAP IID vs. iCarsoft vs. Topdon!

[@SamsMotors]

Hopefully this helps you guys decide which tool you want to buy. Apologies about the length - but there's a lot to cover here. I've put timestamps in to help you navigate the video a bit better...

[@Mike.87]

Hi Sam any chance you could calibrate the transfer box clutches on my discovery 3 with the IID tool?

[@johncrawford4064]

Good review Sam, but its important to only purchase from a registered seller. Obviously this buyer didn't!! see/ google >> Beware iCarsoft - Mercedes Benz Forum

[@brabus1048]

@@johncrawford4064 Google search "Bavarian Dominator @ the Review Centre" Same fella!!!!

[@hughanders6487]

Very informative👍 I went for the iCarsoft LR V3.0 , which is a great tool for the price. Just make sure you purchase from an authorised dealer, or you may get your fingers burnt!! Google search >> bavarian dominator scan tools

[@Steve_MFr]

Hi Sam, Steve from GAP Diagnostic here. Great vid! Thanks for the praise. I just wanted to mention a couple of things real quick: - On first glance, the IIDTool may seem expensive. OBD2 is an open standard for emissions testing and required by law in most countries. As it is an open standard, installing it on a diagnostic tool/system creates virtually no costs - it covers only emissions relevant systems (motor and auto trans, though some manufacturers add more features to make the tool more attractive such as brake systems or SRS systems so that body shops can turn off Airbag lights after an accident). All functions above and beyond that require very time consuming (=expensive) reverse engineering. And leaving aside traits common to any mass produced item such as quality, ease of use, manuals (ours is 160pages strong!) etc, GAP Diagnostic is the only aftermarket diagnostic system manufacturer that actually offers support. We want to ensure that our customers, the vast majority of whom are not professional mechanics and dabbling in the very daunting world of auto diagnostics for the first time(s), have a real benefit from the IIDTool. We don't want our customers to be frustrated either due to a missing function or the inability to use a function or effect a repair. All of this is expensive and has to be supported through IIDTool sales. As such, the IIDTool is not that expensive (IMHO :-p). - VIN Lock: while I understand your frustration at not being able to use the IIDTool on any LR without worrying about having to purchase another VIN license, ALL functions that are VIN locked are beyond the scope of any other LR diagnostic tool including the iCarsoft (see "Full Diagnostic Capability" and "Advanced Programming Functions" about halfway down the page www.gap-diagnostic.com/products/iidtool/). As such, your IIDTool is just as useful on all of your Land Rovers as your iCarsoft. The idea you mention regarding sharing (shhhh🤫 😉) is what lead to the VIN lock. We'd love to help everyone but we need to sell IIDTools if we are to be able to continue to provide the products and services we do. And trust me, we aren't getting rich 😅 Great vid, tho. And please let us know if we can improve anything or if you need a function that is not included. The IIDTool is actually capable of being just as powerful as LR's own diagnostic software (even more so in some instances such as height reprogramming or TPMS disabling) but we don't program every last function in as it is not necessary (eg. turning on dash lights individually to check systems/bulbs) for 99.99% of all users and only adds unnecessary development costs.

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks for the comment Steve! I appreciate that it’s expensive to develop and support high quality products like the IID tool, and I think I speak for the LR community when I say we’re thankful that you guys did so! Regarding sharing though, I’m of the opinion that when you purchase a product you should have the ability to use it as you wish - including using it to help friends and family out occasionally. I appreciate the need to differentiate a “pro” level tool from a consumer tool - but I would really love to see the consumer version get 2 or 3 VIN numbers as standard instead of just one. Lots of us LR fans own multiple Landies, so having to pay extra per VIN on top of an already expensive tool is a bit too much in my opinion! Regarding features, the only one I’ve wanted for is injector balance numbers/ data for the 4.4 TDV8. I believe it’s available for the 3.6 and other diesels but not the 4.4 🤔.

[@Steve_MFr]

@@SamsMotors Hi Sam, Unfortunately LR did not implement the injector balance info for the 4.4. It is only available for the earlier motors. I can't tell you why... Regarding the VIN lock, yes we had to differentiate from the Pro tools, but we also need to make money. 😛And yes, as callous as it sounds, our thoughts were to make sharing somewhat less attractive (und thus hopefully sell more units) while not charging all too much for additional VIN licenses. Adding additional VIN licenses to one unit would have meant a higher retail price for that unit. And we are already above the others in price so that we chose not to go in that direction.

[@handyfreight]

I own a 2017 autobiography and noticed the gap tool has limited functionality for 2017 and newer. Is there a different gap tool that covers my car?

[@Mac_F87]

@@handyfreightthat will probably be because LR started using different protocols from 2017 onwards. I know that’s the case for VAG cars, VCDS started having more patchy functionality with newer cars. All about manufacturers keeping repairs away from DIY and independent garages unless they pay for their diagnostic software.

[@WiimanX2]

While this makes sense sharing wise it doesn't seem very fair to those who switch cars out often. Say you change your car every 6 months, a year, 2 years. Are you limited to paying another 500 quid? What if you have 2,3 or 4 Range Rovers?

[@geopatriot]

Many thanks for taking the time to do this. Its an imense service to the LR community. 🙏

[@michelbonnet3787]

After trying the iCarsoft LR v3.0, I quickly had to buy the IIDtool for some things like programming new keys. It's for far the most powerful tool for Land Rovers, but you should be careful using function without understanding all consequences ! Every Land Rover owner should have this tool to avoid wasting money at the garages.

[@avid521]

I'm gonna do the same. The forced DPF Regen with iCar5oft LR 3.0 did not work so well. That this is really "budget".

[@raveninblack2505]

I use the iCarsoft, its good enough for me. And it paid for itself by "giving the air suspension a kick up the backside" and clearing a fault in the pump. Been spot on ever since.

[@leech4x4]

Very good test, I have the iid tool and am still learning all of what it is capable of. One very useful feature on the iid tool is that the fault codes have the mileage and time of the fault listed. This is worth noting.

[@DiscoGruffalo]

Those dates and mileages are not always accurate. Mine sometimes time travels way in to the future.

[@MarcChometteMarcoD4]

IIDToll user from the beginning, for me is the best tool for LR . And the support from Pat and Gap team is always great and useful.

[@stephenoverstreet9898]

I think this video has informed me to a great degree. I now have a greater understanding about the various tools available, and I know exactly which one I’ll get. Thanks so much for the effort and time out into this, Sam!

[@gotters]

L322 4.4V8 & IID owner - they also recently added the ability to trigger a dynamic DPF regeneration (it had been in beta for a while before), meaning you can watch how full your DPF is via the IID tool then force a regen when going for a run over 50mph, ensuring you don't get the dreaded amber/red DPF warnings. It's almost worth the price for that alone if you aren't frequently getting good longer uninterrupted runs in your car.

[@Viaticboston]

A good comprehensive and honest vid mate. Not yet bought any of tools but will probably end up with Gap IID when ( not if) my L332 throws a fault.

[@jerrygreene7139]

Thanks for this video. For where I’m at, I think the icarsoft will be the best fit. I probably won’t go much further than reading and trying to clear basic codes. Thanks so much for your efforts here.

[@alanforeman-r2o]

in-depth and very informative. Have been toying with the iid tool purchase and it certainly dots all the t's and crosses the i's. Time to part with the hard earned cash!

[@TheGalifrey]

My Autel AP200 which cost 80 quid does everything the Icarsoft does on bluetooth via my phone, also calibrates suspension height.

[@robpeabo509]

Thank you for doing the research for me. I was keen on both the GAP ID tool and the iCarsoft LR V3.0. The functionality of the GAP Tool is great, the price is good to, considering what you get. For me, I cant go past the iCarsoft LR V3.0. It will do what I need and more. Hopefully a software update will sort out the suspension short coming. The plus with the iCarsoft is it will work on all vehicles, with the added bonus of special functions for the LR suite of vehicles. Thanks Sam.

[@robpeabo509]

I read on the spec sheet it does reset the suspension - I presume resetting will calibrate to factory settings on each corner. Hopefully it will work on the suspension of the LR3 as some functions are vehicle specific. I hope so.

[@TheMATTYE99]

@@robpeabo509if the Icarsoft LR v3.0 is updated to the latest software V33.0 it can calibrate the air suspension and even program keys, it can now do everything the iiD can do at a fraction of the price, plus its not vin locked so you can use it on more than one car

[@robpeabo509]

@@TheMATTYE99 I did buy the iCarsoft LR V3.0 and keep up to date with the all the updates. I will give it a go and see what happens. I d have a third key that is now not coded to the vehicle. I will report back, though it will be several weeks before I can do it.

[@murraylynn1013]

I’m looking at a 2004 lab 4.4 petrol. Thank you for letting me know that I would need one of these tools. Kicking tires doesn’t work any more.

[@geoffschulz]

Excellent video, well done! FYI: RSW Solutions 4D Scan is inexpensive and does full suspension calibration.

[@tonyemans4512]

Execelent review, I bought the iiD for my L322 2012 found the options a bit intimidating lack of info regarding options from iiD poor learnt more from you. You should consider doing lessons on main features such as suspension calibration (please consider)

[@DiscoGruffalo]

The Guided suspension calibration function on the IID tells you exactly how to do it, with pictures.

[@Yesterday23071]

They got more than any diy will probably need at any moment in time

[@davidreid9973]

Perfect timing. I’m going with the Gap IID based on this video. Appreciate it.

[@Bensgarage]

Gap Tool all day long. But I also have the iCarsoft, which works just as well, with less functions. Great informative video/

[@fj9460-lr]

To view live data on iCarsoft, you must have vehicle running, in some instances traveling on the motorway-graphing is dependent on realtime sensor inputs. I run an iCarsoft on both a 2004 Range Rover and an 2012 LR4, I also use the Atlantic British iLand on both. Both have their pluses. Great video👍🏼

[@scrappykriss2728]

Awesome . I have the icarsoft from when I had Discovery 3 and just changed it for a RRS supercharged . Considering the £150 per hour labour costs at local independent LR garages I will probably buy the Gap so I can do the suspension calibration- it would soon pay for itself over a couple of years. Oh and being able to programme a new key will also save me £££ Thanks for a really useful video, full of facts and asking the right questions .

[@JonathanHaswell]

Thanks

[@mr_jamie_f]

Worth noting the obd2 function on the icarsoft will be identical to the Topdon and other universal readers. Might have been worth going into diagnostic menu, then PCM/Engine ECU on the Icarsoft.

[@GoCeltics734]

The GAP Tool seems expensive until you factor in 1 key reprogram costs $300 minimum at the dealer but the Tool can do it for you. That plus saving $100+ on not having to buy rods for a lift and you're practically breaking even already.

[@DiscoGruffalo]

Many IID tool users don't need its full functions, and even more are afraid to use them. Some even manage to break things with it. It's a powerful bit of kit. I have 2, one for each Discovery. They never move without them.

[@SamsMotors]

Yep, I agree there!

[@RanOver]

Great video I own the Iid tool for my 2011 Range Rover supercharged L322 and would love more information on how to configure the CCF files to add numerical speed in the center of the speed gauge.

[@horacesawyer2487]

Did you ever find out how to add numerical speed read out to your RR supercharged?

[@RanOver]

Unfortunately, I did not. Please let me know if you ever figure it out.

[@geektarded]

I think you stepped on the frog at the beginning of the video.

[@mattknott5]

I've recently bought a iCarSoft CR Max, which appears to be somewhere between the iCarSoft LR model shown in the video and the IID. Has the benefit of not being a single brand specific, but I believe has the features of the iCarSoft LR model.

[@SamsMotors]

Interesting. Any idea if it can perform a height calibration on a LR?

[@mattknott5]

@@SamsMotors probably not, I assume it has the same functions as the iCarSoft LR model but covers other makes too.

[@chriscowley7732]

This was a great review Sam. Exactly the brief I need. Trying to figure out the right tool for a great condition p38

[@SamsMotors]

For the P38, you probably can't beat the Nanocom Evolution. The IID tool doesn't work with it unfortunately.

[@exoticargeo]

Best comparative review I've seen yet. Really wish I could see one with the Gap versus the Phoenix model from Topdon (as I'm considering it since it's not limited to one brand/model).

[@SamsMotors]

I've not heard of the Phoenix, I'll see if Topdon want to be extra generous and send me one out for test.

[@allsearpw3829]

Hi , great review and very use full for the home mechanic .👍

[@MorganandSophie1]

Very helpful Sam. Thank you for the time and effort you are putting in. A question; other than oil and filter changes at the outset and more regularly than manufacturers recommend are there any other initial actions that you would take when in ownership of a “high mileage” L322? North of 150k miles for example. Everything that you have done so far makes perfect sense just wondering what else is in the pipeline so to speak.

[@duncanreid854]

With the wait😉. Very informative. Although clearly the best tool I can’t justify the cost of IID tool. Had iCarSoft previously on older RRS and it paid for itself several times over. I can see me investing in another given your reviews so thank you for some great info there Sam and keep up the great vids👍👍.

[@tomprentice4993]

I'd love to see a comparison between the Gap IID scanner and the XTOOL Anyscan A30M Wireless OBD2 Scanner (which is not VIN locked nor LR/RR specific) and sells for about $200 USD.

[@johnelbro127]

Very informative thanks, I have the gap IID tool and find it useful. Cheers 👍

[@robholland6460]

DRL fairy lights is a good CCF update on later motors 👍

[@AREcomp]

Hi Sam. Thanks for making this great channel. It's very helpful. On the video you mentioned a laptop based (dealer like) diagnostic tool. Is that available in the market? Thanks

[@bazfry]

To disable seat belt alarm bonging , plug seat belt in and unplug and insert quickly 10 times and you wont hear it again

[@mitchellpanes8566]

I think that you forgot to mention the Bluetooth you can pay to register a different Vin if needed as opposed to buying the pro

[@Kukibajker]

Hi, I guess that VIN number inserting every time when searching for extra features on iCarsoft, can be skipped if you go to scan mode first after connecting the device, scroll to your vehicle and wait for the device to automaticaly scan cars VIN number.

[@dlj1285]

Really great video man. I just purchased a 2024 Jaguar F-Type R. I'd like to have one of these things on hand for when the inevitable occurs, have some insight into provlems etc...I've read and have the impression that this iCarsoft v3 one you are talking about here is not a bad choice for a Jaguar, but one of the things I've read is that it will not give you back all the digits of the different codes, or something like that? So you you'll get 4 or 5 digits of what should be 6 digit code or something. I have the impression that perhaps a more expensive Autel device might give the full and best information? Do you know it that would be the case? I'm the type that, if I'm gonna put money out, I don't mind putting a little extra cash forward if I'm getting a more accurate/better tool. Just trying to decide if it is worth the extra expense upfront, and the need to pay 100 to 150 bucks a year to keep it updated. Try to avoid potentially putting good money over bad. I'm far from a pro, a DIYer for sure, but I'd like to have something useful that could help me get a bit more adventurous if I chose to etc...In any case, thanks again for the great video...Really useful stuff here...

[@grahamwest1079]

I have the Gap Bluetooth only problem my Chinese android tough phone doesn't interface with it luckily I have access to an iPhone. Went for the Gap tool after plenty of research.

[@Lexgoplayoutside]

The Icarsoft was £125 when I bought mine in may 2022!

[@InfinityProjector]

Finally what I waited for over a 1.5 years! Thank you so much. Just to clarify. When you say iCarsoft can't calibrate Ride Level Module, this means it can not adjust ride hight like IID? Or does it mean it can not calibrate it after repair or replacement? Thank you!

[@SamsMotors]

Yeah the iCarsoft can't adjust height, and it also cannot calibrate height sensors.

[@InfinityProjector]

@Sam's Motor & Machine Got it! Thanks. From your review IID is the way to go imo. Ride hight is one of the most important items on Range Rovers. Petty they didn't offer you some sponsorship so we can order

[@SamsMotors]

@@InfinityProjector I didn't ask them for any sponsorship to be fair, but yeah a discount code would have been nice! Maybe next time.

[@pas7272]

Excellent, but it looks like money talks, and the most expensive also did seemingly more. Not sure i would need it but would be difficult not to buy that one so i knew i would be covered.

[@SamsMotors]

That's pretty much the crux of it!

[@aquicktake]

Do any of them deal with setting adaptations and throttle body alignment - which is needed if the battery is unplugged for an extended period and if the MAF is unplugged?

[@horsestunts]

Hi Sam, great content - wonder if I could trouble you with a question please. will the icarsoft allow you to actually alter individual wheel ride height, thanks

[@horsestunts]

just found the bit where you look it up and it doesn't - what a bu##er, needed that

[@deporbs]

You forgot Autel, which is second after GAP tool. Very powerful LR tool and doesn`t cost fortune. Very common tool.

[@SamsMotors]

Which one in particular? There are loads of models. I did reach out to Autel but didn't get a response 🤷‍♂️

[@SamsMotors]

Which one in particular? There are loads of models. I did reach out to Autel but didn't get a response 🤷‍♂️

[@tarunchoudharyofficial1473]

Hi Sam, I am also facing Restricted Performance in my RANGE ROVER VOGUE SE 4.4 V8 L322. Please suggest me what to. Regards Tarun Choudhary Bangalore (India)

[@niallmcdonnell350]

What tool can do a height collaboration on my 2007 range rover sport?

[@donwk1892]

I have a 2006 rrs supercharged... My car was fine and out of boredom i selected calibrate anti roll option then i got e7 error code and my red suspension light is on... Everything still works ie suspension goes up an down etc but now the red light stays on and fault code C1A00-54 - Control module - System programming failure - missing calibration (AB)... 😮... Any advice please 🙏

[@joelchevalier448]

Do you know if this tool will reprogram a newly-installed transmission?

[@CSMtheMariner]

Great video learned a lot thanks !

[@santoshtomar319]

I want to purchase diagnostic tool for JLR vehicle.. Please suggest. Mostly working.. Service reset, Maintance mode, DTC clear, dpf regeneration, and programming. If possible Bluetooth working

[@_the_dare_devil_]

I think you can add ThinkDiag 2 to the list. It's cheaper and has better support for Land Rover/Jaguar than iCarsoft

[@ozzbear6221]

No mention of britpart lynx or the legendary nanocom. I’ve got the lynx and couldn’t be happier, but still wish I’d spent a bit more on a nanocom (lynx is basically a rip off of genuine jlr diagnostics, nanocom is same but has great third party support and ability to drop in ecu upgrades).

[@pires53]

Hi Sam, despite the price, is it worth buying the GAP DII for my Range Rover L322 Td6?

[@maceyevo]

That p040d code the sensor is £86 , however fitting it is another story 😂

[@davedmufcdavedmufc7176]

Can you add and delete Key fob's with any of these tools?, thanks

[@josephkinnear5802]

Guys does the icarsoft 3 read live data for the injectors.? Think I have a problem with mine so im looking for a scanner to read them when I'm driving the car

[@robholland6460]

Nice write up on P040D on full fat forum....I had a specialist do it 😂😂

[@SamsMotors]

Did you notice any difference in performance or economy after it was done?

[@horacesawyer2487]

Excellent video. Questioning which scan tool best chance to help me clear an 'incorrect Adblue' warning on a 2017 US ver. diesel Sport. After cleaning the system the code can be reset according to one of our good brethren. Need generalized scan tool that will service multiple LRs. Anyone please chime in, thanks

[@kappaclink]

Can I clear my tire pressure fault the icarsoft? Thks.

[@MePeterNicholls]

I have the v2 iCarsoft and it falls down in the fault codes it gives. Codes lack the last two digits which help narrow down the specific fault. It isn’t that helpful when it comes to light control module either.

[@stefanreid5026]

Great content. Did you ever get to the bottom of the suspension harshness? I have exactly like for like problem! Cheers

[@SamsMotors]

Hi Stefan, no I haven't unfortunately. What year is your car?

[@stefanreid5026]

66 plate and its identical to your problem. Its driving me mad! Iv had it into a couple of garages and and they come back with “Its normal” every time. Im tempted to change front strut as its coming from front/rear drivers side.

[@SamsMotors]

@@stefanreid5026 Interesting, well I suppose the L405 also has variable dampers and similar suspension overall so it could be the same issue.

[@stefanreid5026]

Yeah. Are you going to investigate the problem further? I will sell mine if front strut doesn't remedy the problem.

[@SamsMotors]

I have a few more avenues to go down... if I don't solve it, it'll bug me for the rest of my life!

[@barriecole2488]

Sam the p040D fault is the exhaust manifold temperature sensor, I had the fault on mine and I fitted a new one , it’s located on the top of the left exhaust manifold and is a pig to do , you can snip the wire of the old one to remove it with a socket but you need a special split socket to install the new one ,there isn’t much room between the engine and inner wing , as yours I didn’t get a warning on the dash but the fault shows up in diagnostic.possibly if the egr system was deleted by mapping it out it may dismiss this sensor, something I’m thinking of 🤔

[@GenXBoomer22]

I had that repaired on mine. It transformed the running of my 2012 Westminster. Prior to the fix I was getting an engine hiccup around the 70mph mark and another hesitation when changing up around the 1200 rpm mark. I’ll add that I also got my engine ecu firmware updated at the same time. So obviously I can’t say what had the most impact on my Rangey but it now drives like new!

[@gregcooper8552]

Thanks for a very useful article, but there is another option that you do not refer to, the Black Box Solutions Faultmate MSV-2, do you have any knowledge/experience of this?

[@SamsMotors]

While I’m a fan of the black box Nanocom for the P38, I think the MSV-2 is a bit out of date and simplistic for advanced level diagnostics on the L322. I’ve not tried one personally though, so would be happy to be proved wrong if they wanted to send me one! 😅

[@gregcooper8552]

@@SamsMotors Thanks for that, I've had an MSV-2 for some time for my discovery 3, but recently bought a discovery 4, black box wanted to charge me for a complete new system if I kept my licence for the 3, finally offered me a 15% discount, but the IID tool was still about the same price and their policy on adding new licenses is much better so I've ordered one and will compare the two probably move over to tge IID.

[@jerrygreene7139]

Hi Sam, I hope you are doing well. After watching this video a couple of times, I decided to go with the iCarSoft LR 3.0 scanner. I’m hoping it will reset the “Service Required” message. I’m not finding that right away. Do you know or remember if it has this functionality? I have the ‘11 RR HSE 5.0 naturally aspirated.

[@robbiegriff725]

Hi great vid, ive been toying with the idea of the icarsoft v3.0 or ssd for my 2015 jaguar xe . The main reason is i had the "sos limited functionality " warning message, ive replaced the battery in the telematics module but the warning hasn't cleared. Do you know if the icarsoft can talk to the telematics system to reset it or read if there is another possible fault?? Think I'll forget about ssd after reading your comments. Will the iid tool talk to the telematics module??

[@davidf.8497]

One question : I own a 2006 RRS and would like to buy a GAPiid but I see there's one wher it read G3 and other one which has nothing on, which should I get? Thanks, very useful vid to make a choice

[@bornshamir7792]

I am looking at Innova brand . Any experiences with those?

[@SamsMotors]

Can't say I have, sorry. My advice though is that most of these generic OBD2 tools by and large have the same functionality, with a few small differences. The vast majority of them aren't capable of doing the specialist functions that are needed on cars like the L322.

[@Platypus-Dreams]

I was about to buy the CR PRO unit as I have a Holden but I'm about to buy an LR3 and want to use it in the buying process. Should I get the LR V3 instead?

[@skinteastwood2358]

Hi Sam I have just bought a R.R. Sport 2013 HSE Black but has no passenger T.V. screens I am going to retire next April so I treated Myself, My question is it possible to add the T.V. screens by changing the seats or any other way, would like it for my grand children.??

[@jerrygreene7139]

Sam, what battery did you end up going with?

[@SamsMotors]

It was a Halfords 019 AGM. Quite a good price on trade card. Working very nicely so far.b

[@michaelromano4320]

Any issues with changing from lead acid to AGM?

[@Mike.87]

Hi Sam great video love your content very informative. Any chance I could be cheeky and and ask you if you could calibrate the clutches in my discovery 3 using the IID tool I am not far from athenry

[@uncledoc9010]

For my lr322 i'm using RSW Solutions. It has it's draw backs, but i'm still happy with it. Can you calibrate the suspension with this tools? But you're absoutley right, without such a tool, you should never buy a lr322. but, in my eyes, the lr322 is still "peak RangeRover".

[@SamsMotors]

Definitely want to try that one out!

[@jspope2008]

Hi! The top one you show can you change it from English to Italian. I ask as I live in Italy and mechanic only speaks Italian 🇮🇹 Always watch your videos 👍🏻

[@SamsMotors]

Not sure which one you mean, but all of these should have language options. Thanns

[@jspope2008]

@@SamsMotors Hi Sam. The top one you showed. There were three. I will have to ask a supplier before I buy because it must have Italian on it.

[@SamsMotors]

@@jspope2008 Do you mean Topdon?

[@jspope2008]

@@SamsMotors Perhaps it was around £450 from memory just for L322 model

[@northamptonwest9077]

Chalk another one up for the Icarsoft. Got mine for amazingly £70 off ebay. Been great for code resets. They come thick and fast. Only thing I'm having trouble reading is any of the engine ECUs no idea why.... just can't connect to them any one got any ideas. I have read in the many forums that the headlight Cambus can stop you reading the engine ecu? How true does that sound.

[@SamsMotors]

Bargain! Not sure regarding headlights, it sounds far-fetched but then at the same time sounds plausible for a Range Rover 😁

[@velonaut303]

Does anyone know if the iCarsoft LR V3.0 allows the initialization of the ECO, after AUX battery replacement? The GAPIID does "Reset the battery stored monitoring data (4.7.8 in the GAP manual)"

[@SamsMotors]

Do you mean resetting the battery monitoring system after replacing the main battery? If so, yes, all 3 units in this test can do that.

[@Tec2Nut]

Any experience with I Carley?

[@SamsMotors]

No, I think it's just a generic system though isn't it? Doubt it would be able to do much more than the Topdon I tested here.

[@RaptorFlyer3D]

@@SamsMotors Hi Sam, absolutely love your content, so much so, it’s instilled confidence in me to buy an L322! Deposit placed today on a ‘12 AB. With regards to the IID tool, I’m keen to get it but how limited will it be / can I scan without locking to the VIN, prior to purchasing the Fatty? I’d hate to lock it then discover the car isn’t for me! Cheers Matti.

[@SamsMotors]

@@RaptorFlyer3D Hi Matti, thanks for the comment and glad the content has been inspirational! The IID will scan and clear any codes without being VIN locked, and will perform some basic service functions. The higher level functions (calibrations, module reprogramming and CCF editing etc) will be locked out until you VIN lock it. Thanks for watching 👌

[@RaptorFlyer3D]

@@SamsMotors great, cheers Sam, much appreciated. I’ll get one ordered.

[@RaptorFlyer3D]

@@SamsMotors did you manage to code out the incessant bonging when the door is open?!?

[@bryanshort8942]

Hello Sam, I've been looking for a while and just found Thinkdiag, it seems to do everything that the iid tool does but covers all makes. It costs £125 with 3yrs software support which would need to be renewed to keep the high end features but seems good value if your family own different makes.

[@H2ON_MEA]

This video is very helpful. I am going to iCarsoft . But I have Range rover 2004 with BMW engine 4.4, Do you advices me to to bye it?

[@SamsMotors]

Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes it should work great with the 4.4 BMW engine 👍

[@SamsMotors]

Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes it should work great with the 4.4 BMW engine 👍

[@FranciscoTorres-dj8mv]

Which one will reset the service required light in a 2011 L322 ?

[@SamsMotors]

They should all do that!

[@craigpeart7291]

Can IID reset start sop function ?

[@SamsMotors]

Should do, what's up with your start stop?

[@craigpeart7291]

@@SamsMotors New to Landrovers have 2016 Discovery 4 HSE occasionally the ECO light comes on stays on then goes off. I have multimetered battery that seems fine but the start stop function has never Ed worked..

[@yusufcboz]

Hello Sam , I appreciate your videos🙏 maybe a different topic but i want to ask a question. Is there a feature such as activating portable audio on these devices? i ‘ve a problem i’ll be very happy if you can help me. i have l322 4.4 tdv8 2012 model range rover . I bought a Bluetooth kit for the ipod input. I watched it on youtube, many people are actively using the same device . my problem is the portable audio option is not visible on the main screen. I unplugged the module under the passenger seat and plugged it back in but nothing changed . What do you think could be the problem? maybe it can be activated with a device like the one you introduced?

[@SamsMotors]

Hi Yusuf, thanks for the comment I think I saw your post on the L322 owners page on Facebook...? Very unusual situation that I've not seen before... It *might* be possible to switch on the iPod input within the IID tool by editing the CCF file, but I'm not certain of this. What trim level and market is your car?

[@JonMartin84]

Thanks for this information. I just picked up a 2011 RR FF LUX and wanted to get a good tool. Is it possible to update the ECU and Trans software like the dealer with IID Tool?

[@SamsMotors]

Yes that's possible with the IID tool 👍

[@Yesterday23071]

You want any links for what I said here I can send , no problem.

[@itiswhatitis6196]

Great video, i know i need fault reader but question is if anyone know how GAP IID compare to lynx evo 2 ??? For now willing towards GAP but wondering if there is any major difference...

[@SamsMotors]

From what I've seen, the Lynx isn't as capable and requires a subscription to work.

[@itiswhatitis6196]

@@SamsMotors GAP IID looks the best then... thanks

[@hedgehog1995]

I carsoft v3 does not seem to good for disco td5 a lot of the uses on it are not on the td5, didn’t reset my dash lights. Will check what garage use as they have reset them before.

[@SamsMotors]

Nanocom evolution is the best unit for TD5s without a doubt.

[@sbordello341]

What's the best way to find out if a car dealership has cleared fault codes prior to selling a L322? Going to go check one out in a few days and i want to take an iCarsoft with me but want to make sure they haven't cleared the faults.

[@SamsMotors]

If it has been cleared there's no way to check what faults were on it. The only thing you can do is to drive it. A long (45 mins+) test drive with a few start/stop cycles and varied driving conditions should reveal any fault codes that were previously cleared.

[@sbordello341]

@@SamsMotors You're the man! Thanks for taking the time to reply sir!

[@eliotmansfield]

cant be said enough to keep an eye your battery voltage without the engine running - it pulls at least 15 amps without the engine running and will drain even a new battery quickly. I use a 800w HP server power supply tweaked to give out 13.4v with about 50a capacity

[@happyjohnwalks]

Saw it on a Harry's Garage video, he was chatting with Clarkson about the L322 post 2010, he said the TG crews used them and each time they opened the door the ecu would kick in and wait 15 minutes or so before shutting down, they were flat after 10 openings.

[@bk558462]

Hey sammy. With the gapp iid tool, once youv purchased the tool, is that it? Or there are ongoing subscription costs to keep the scan tool operational?

[@SamsMotors]

It’s just the one off payment for the IID tool. The only extra expenses are if you want to bind it to multiple vehicles at once - which is a one off fee of about 50 quid I believe.

[@bk558462]

@@SamsMotors alright. Its dam expensive to buy! I have a 3.6 tdv8 with park sensor issues and a 4.4 tdv8 with a heated seat and blower fan issue. So it would be handy to have

[@SamsMotors]

It is, but if you find you’re regularly paying “diagnostics fees” to dealers and mechanics, and you reckon you’d have a good go at sorting issues out yourself, it might be worthwhile.

[@bk558462]

@@SamsMotors have you got snapchat sammy?!

[@SamsMotors]

@@bk558462 no buddy, stopped using it about 10 years ago 😅. You can find me on Instagram though!

[@Hans201186]

Thanks for the informations! Video is great! Maybe you can help me. Younsaid you have worked with the dealers tool. I have the opportunity to buy a dealers laptop with SSD and Microcat for almost the price of tje GAP IID tool. What would you recommend? Thanks in advance!

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks for the comment! Is it a genuine laptop & SDD installation? As the copy I have is not, and as such it's a bit risky to use for the more invasive procedures like flashing and editing CCFs for the risk of bricking something. If genuine and a late enough version to work with your car, it's probably worth the money, but the IID tool is easier and more convenient to use and with 95% of the capability.

[@Hans201186]

@@SamsMotors thanks for the input! I wanted the genuine one, because of the spare parts list and maybe some manuals for repairs. But after some research, the support of the GAP guys sounds great to me. I think I go for the IID tool. Keep on making such interesting content!

[@SamsMotors]

@@Hans201186 the genuine parts list would be pretty useful to have downloaded, but you can also access microcat online at new.lrcat.com. Also the official workshop manuals are all available online for free 👍 I think IID is probably the better bet - like you say, the support alone is worth the cost.

[@the1stime]

Does anybody recommend Foxwell?

[@SamsMotors]

I’ve heard some good things - but haven’t tried one myself.

[@HamTechRadioScannerDrones]

Thanks cool

[@ally1534]

Obd2 is engine related items only so won’t pick up any other ecu

[@thedude2556]

How about Carly?

[@SamsMotors]

Never tried it but I'm assuming it'd be pretty similar to the Topdon in terms of functions?

[@Momixxxxx]

Why NO one is talking about the original Land Rover diagnostic “SDD” software which can be downloaded for free and a universal OBD2 adapter can be bought for 90euro VXdiag for instance? Why bother with anything else???

[@SamsMotors]

Because it's been proven to be unstable, has to be run via a VM in most cases and has been known to brick vehicle modules when it crashes midway through procedures. Use at your own risk!

[@Momixxxxx]

@@SamsMotors I use an old laptop with Win7 and so far very stable. However I will partially agree, there is some risk when not used properly. Thanks for your view!

[@kevint7851]

New sub here....Great vid👌👌👌👍. Me NOT mechanically minded. ( in fact useless). However own the iid tool, just to read faults and clear, if / when restricted performance limp mode sets in. Then take to my indie with snapshot of the code. Hope one day to meet up with someone to give me a few tips😙.