SANGUINIUS ADMITS HIS REGRETS TO ROBOUTE

[@paulbridgeforth7610]

I see a reflection of Guilliman appointing Dante to his position he is regrettable that he puts such a burden on both of them despite over 10000 year since these events take place, he still has human qualities.

[@tedhodge4830]

Just fascinated by the cover art on that book showing the Blood Angels and Ultramarines cheering while the Dark Angels and White Scars look on stoically.

[@bvdemier1]

well, getting the scars to cheer for empire-building is about probable as getting a fish to sing. And the Dark Angels are probably trying to win the apporval of the Lion by being EXTRA BROODING and EXTRA SUPE DUPER LOYAL

[@andyb1653]

@@bvdemier1 **fealty intensifies**

[@LCliffhanger]

theres also a Stoic looking Space Wolf oddly enough

[@LCliffhanger]

​@@bvdemier1 brooding rly isnt the Lion or Dark Angels thing, Sanguinius and Corax yes, Lion not so much, he's calculating sure but not rly brooding

[@andyb1653]

@@LCliffhanger Do you know who the Dark Angels and Lion El'Jonson are based on?

[@pavs8211]

I love Roboute, he is loyal to the core, and he truly believed in the Emperor's dream, as if it was his own.

[@Archon3960]

And yet, I do think Sanguinius was perhaps the only one who truly understood his father. The only one who truly envisioned what He wanted. And these are answers Guilliman would really need right now... :/

[@Archon3960]

@Ved Singh I can see that regarding the Inquisition and the Church, but shouldn't Guilliman have essentially almost full control over the Administratum, the Astartes, the Munitorum, the Imperial Navy and the Imperial Gu... the Astra Milt... (screw it) the _Wall of Guns_ to compensate ? Nobody said anything to Koorland when he made his little power play during the War of the Beast, so given the current situation, I find it almost ludicrous that the Imperium is so doubtful (or ignorant) of a Primarch's opinion on how to run the Imperium. If you exclude the Ministorum and the Inquisition, that is.

[@cmmagamers]

T. A bit late of a response, but the War of the Beast and current time are about 10000 years of difference. About 5000 years of ever increasing religious dogma. The Imperium is much different.

[@Archon3960]

@@cmmagamers And even at the time of the Beast, the Imperium viewed _Vulkan_ like some sort of alien being... :/

[@notaseal7864]

Robooty Gorrillaman is Big E dream

[@islar7832]

I really like Sanguinius for trying to get close with his brothers, not only Roboute, but Curze also.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Sanguinius truly understood Curze. The others just wrote him off as insane and bitter. Unfitting for their "Perfect" world. But Sanguinius truly relates to his tormented brother. They are both cursed, both legions are bloodthirsty and terrifying and both are willing to admit the truth. Their precious, infallible Father lied to them all. Sanguinius just had the strength and luck to rise above the hate and the pain. Poor Konrad never had a chance. There was no loving family or wise mentor on that shit hole Nostramo.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Yeah I love how Sanguinius was the one Primarch who was willing to help Curze. Heck, he was willing to take whatever punishment the Emperor would set upon Curze. We all know that Vulkan was a real nice guy, but even he was never willing to give Curze such a chance. Just goes to show how Sanguinius was the best brother of them all.

[@Buhlmanzky]

Curze was cruel and used his role as an excuse to act out his crazy slaughter and torture,Sanguinius and his legion might have been cursed but what made them heroes was that they fought against their urges,the Night Lords just used their " nature " as an excuse to be power armored criminals. Curze should have been put down way sooner,him and Angron should have never been allowed into the great crusade,let alone having a legion been given to them....thats like giving a four year old a machine pistol.

[@AzrealMaximus]

@@Buhlmanzky if angron and curze so hated by us, imagine that THEY lived and the 2nd and 11th didn't. How heinous must be the crimes of the 2nd and 11th against Emps, vs the angron and curze' crimes against the imperium?

[@sgtbagels2059]

I think Sanguinius was the best of them

[@parkerparrish4491]

Roboute and Sanguinius are perhaps two of my favorite Primarchs. As I do like how they gave Roboute so much character in the Horus Heresy and the Current timeline. And Sanguinius about his character and his lore is just pure awesome. I can’t wait to learn more about them during the siege of terra books. Or even more Lore material in the future.

[@FnRenner]

Sanguineous coming to the aid of Kahn during the Siege of Terra is an amazing scene.

[@themetroidprime]

Guilliman is, amongst all Primarch, the one that embodies the Emperor's ideals the most. He's not loyal to the Emperor as much as he's loyal to his idea of what the Imperium of Man ought to be. This hasn't changed one bit in the 41th Millenium. After all, Ultramar was already modeled after the Emperor's ideas even before him finding Roboute.

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Really I think guilliman gets a lot of unwanted hate, personally I think he's one of the few loyal primarch up to the job of running a broken stagnant empire and returning it to a better state. In fact I cant think of a better primarch to do it other than hawk boy himself.

[@strongback6550]

Roboute gets lot of deserved hate because of Matt Ward. Disregard the bad fluff and any faction can be good.

[@Crack_the_Skye]

It would've been better to have a triumvirate leadership or a council of Loyalist primarchs instead of a single leader.

[@Kalenz1234]

He would if it served the Imperium

[@tedakem1812]

real talk

[@michaelhowell2326]

Say what you will, I love me some Guilliman. Always have. Not bc they were the poster boy but bc I always admired his skills as a General.

[@craigfoulger5996]

I think Roboute was designed to be overlooked. He's not the valorous knight like the lion or a mighty sorcerer like Magnus. He's the master of strategy. He builds chaos into order. He is the empire-building aspect of his father. I was never a fan of him until the HH. But now i respect the hell out of him and i can see why they resurrected him for the current timeline.

[@TheReaper569]

roboute was one of the few of primarchs that had any buisness of being a leader.

[@scottdunn3339]

@@TheReaper569 Well said.

[@placerdemaio]

one of the 500 worlds is probably the only place you would chose to live if you were forced to, look how they managed the plague in plague wars novel, the rest of the empire would all be dead.

[@jeffkais]

Guilliman is the perfect bureaucrat and state builder. If they had a tournament among all primarchs, Guilliman would win via contract technicalities 😂

[@FireRevanShadow]

Blue berry and the Flamingo boy speak to each other and all we need is the kitten.

[@Archon3960]

If there is any "flamingo boy" amongst the Primarchs, I feel that it would be Fulgrim. x)

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

Flamingo boy!?!?! Ahahahaha that's the best description of Sangy yet!

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

@@Archon3960 fulgrim is more of a peacock in my opinion lol. But flamingo kind of sets. White feathers that turn red as it consumes and grows...

[@FireRevanShadow]

@@Archon3960 That sneeple boy. That reject yuan ti? The guy who really needed to tan less and eat less marshmallows? The guy who could probably fit in with any new jersey reality tv show? That fulgrim?

[@justinavery8664]

Westworld Dr. Ford's soliloquy of the peacock digging in the muck unable to fly consoling itself with its beauty, echos for Fulgrim..... Arrogance and jealousy

[@joehough838]

Unremembered Empire is one of the best 'Primarch' books. It shows the flawed perfection of them all and how Horus' fall affected them all. Good vid!

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Joe Hough yeah it has some of the best scenes with Guilliman and the Lion. Loved seeing the tense but still respectable relationship between the two.

[@chrisbennett6236]

These kinds of moments we need more of. Sanguinius and Jaghatai, now Sanguinius and Guilliman. I hope we see more of these interactions as the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy storylines expands.

[@chrisbennett6236]

Guilliman is not Horus. I don't believe he'd ever use the Red Thirst against his brother.

[@andyb1653]

"Gulliman is not Horus" Hmm, yes. The Primarch here is made of Meat.

[@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis]

The thing about bobby g is he owns his mistakes Horus just denies there mistakes

[@AdeptKing]

Guilliman would probably try to help Sanguinius more than anything.

[@andyb1653]

@Apathetic Apparition I doubt that severely.

[@andyb1653]

@Apathetic Apparition Seizing an entire legion would be too far, even for him. And a consolidator is exacly what the Imperium needs RN, it's fractured to fuck.

[@lackdaar7481]

Roboute, the more human, the best to hidding his humanity

[@lackdaar7481]

@Danny Boyo only Eldar chicks call him like that... and he love it

[@emiliocatxares5567]

I think Roboute was the only one to have a mother and a functional family. That would explain many things.

[@servinginhellaimingforheav2446]

@@emiliocatxares5567 yea except maybe Dorn but the rest of primarchs had bad adoptive family or none at all (Morty had a necromancer while Lion had no interaction with another human until he was an adult)

[@gwilym1991]

Interesting that Sanguinius doesn't consider himself a victim of fate, given he knows what awaits him. Or is he just saying that to comfort Roboute? I like your comment about Sanguinius being loyal to his fathers DREAM. Part of me wonders if other Primarchs return how many would be loyal to the Emperor or would be loyal to safeguarding humanity in spite of him.

[@elliottbelmont7065]

I think it's both, he does see himself as a victim of fate to a degree, but is in denial, like his mask, he puts a mask on to hide his very personal thoughts, how Sanguinius is nervous even depressed about his fate but more so about his brothers and his relationships with them after his death

[@delsinmunroe5067]

Sanguinius, the primarch who is the embodiment of empathy. Second only to Vulkan and even then I would personally argue his empathy was greater. Sanguinius, the first primarch to lie to his father, yet for the sake of his sons. In the face of his godlike father, he lied. He lied, to protect his sons.

[@pedropierre9594]

And if anything, Sanguinius was right more so now than ever.

[@jasonmckay8793]

Sanguinius was closer to the darkness than his brothers and chose the light earlier and with more wisdom than his brothers, he was the greatest of them imo.

[@mitchjames9350]

I reckon him and Vulkan are more human than super beings which made them the most caring.

[@tigeriussvarne177]

Ave Imperator. Gloria in excelsis Terra.

[@dimwitsixtytwelve]

wrong channel dude bro

[@tigeriussvarne177]

@@dimwitsixtytwelve I know dude, but i think it is a fitting thing to say.

[@dimwitsixtytwelve]

@@tigeriussvarne177 agreed!

[@nickhoward7419]

Ave Imperator. Gloria in excelsis Terra.

[@tigeriussvarne177]

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[@bvdemier1]

why didnt the big E tell people and the primarchs about the warp? The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to Guilliman. That was before he had fought directly against the powers who had manipulated his brothers, poisoned their hearts and brought mankind close to apocalypse. To fight daemons was to fight nightmares. They were the fever-sick imaginings of the mad and perverted, the lonely and the afraid. Every whim, every dark desire, every wayward thought was a seed that grew in the churning of the warp. Legions of daemons trod the soils of Terra during the siege. For a long time, Guilliman questioned why his father had kept the secrets of the warp to Himself. He had fought daemons so many times that their impossibility became normalised. But it was only after his awakening and his exposure to the Cicatrix Maledictum that he truly understood what the Emperor had been trying to do, that these things were not his father’s true enemies, but rather their source was. Revealing the truth of daemonkind would have strengthened them enormously, for men would never have been able to put them from their thoughts. The Emperor had been trying to save mankind from the horror of its own mind. "Plague Wars" from Guy Hayley

[@Archon3960]

That, or he just couldn't admit he did it all to have "less-shoddy eldar prostitutes"... xD What do you mean, TTS Big E.'s current memory is fractured?

[@ianharrison5758]

@@Archon3960 two things can be true at once

[@RamonChiNangWong078]

it's sad that Sanguinala has to end

[@sanguinius_yt]

He’s very much alive in spirit. I can see him returning in the future. Mephiston and Dante will play a huge role in his resurrection.

[@akirby2886]

Hope so but probably too many years to wait.

[@leopedroza4461]

I would have loved for Ferrus to have been around for these talks. It was kinda hinted in his primarch book that he knew about chaos, and that the imperial truth was a lie. I bet sanguinus would have been able to open to him.

[@kubapiwowarczyk599]

Taking into consideration that Ferrus talked to Necron constructs and ancient AIs on Medusa, it is very likely.

[@CallofWar5]

@@kubapiwowarczyk599 what? What book is this? I need it

[@kubapiwowarczyk599]

@@CallofWar5 Canticle, a short story.

[@danielemontalbano9216]

This was brilliant, thank you! A great insight into the Great Angel's thoughts.

[@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis]

I do love this moment it shows so much emotion as much flak as bobby G gets he is one of my favourites and to hear him and my primarch talking this moment hits deep thanks Rho

[@KingManga360]

He need a hug from Vulkan

[@andreanecchi5930]

Vulkan 🐲🐲🐲🐲

[@youdicted]

Do you want him to die?

[@bmad1386]

Ironically, Sanguinius is actually probably the only primarch that could've taken Vulkan's tightest hug, along with Ferrus. Too bad they're both dead.😢

[@Jarjarum]

When you adore robute so much that watching him getting captured in bfga2 kinda hurts

[@mr.smithsgovermentclass4556]

Right or wrong, what's done is done. The best move is learn from what happened, make a decision on what's the best way to keep moving forward.

[@vulkanlives8188]

I love this art so much because it shows the wolves and scars glowering while everyone else is cheering

[@carltomacruz9138]

There were Wolves and Scars at Ultramar when Guilliman formed Imperium Secundus? How?

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

All either of them needs is a big o’ hug from the Onyx Dragon!!! Vulcan lives!! STOMP STOMP!

[@kubapiwowarczyk599]

*Void Dragon Ferrus Manus resurrection f*cking when

[@veniktonven.5651]

VULCAN LIVES! *STOMP STOMP*

[@vczs]

@Mike Perez maybe because his soul was obliterated by the FUCKING HORUS? Or something along those lines?

[@Nyctophora]

Rouboute Guilliman is the Imperial Administrator and as a former Administrator, I know that the day comes when even the Admin can have had ENOUGH! :D I appreciate what you do, Roboute, I've been there! ... we all need a Sanguinius to make us feel better.

[@Kareszkoma]

I never even thought of that. Sanguinius is the holiest symbol of all the extinct religion of Terra. He is the Angel incarnate. How did the Emperor feel about that? One of his best and closest son is an angel incarnate.

[@89Keith]

He was his fabulous hawkboy and dont you say anything bad about him!

[@SgtThiel]

that is not how the bible describe angels despite popular culture adoption of it. winged humans were a thing in art back in ancient Greece

[@Kareszkoma]

Oh no, but also yes. This is hard topic in perfect description. Angels are described as babies yes. But what about the rest? And it's not just Micheal or Lucifer. The Choir of God, Angel's Hall were filled with these transcended beings. That is what Sanguinius resembles. One of God's army. One of the Choir. I'm sorry if my description is bad. I don't know the English, Biblic words in english.

[@Ashtor1337]

@@Kareszkoma , your English is fine. You made complete Sense.

[@chrispaice5583]

Guilliman comforting the pigeon was nothing compared to the feels of Lorgar listening to Angrons feelings 😭

[@chrisspink8873]

Christopher Paice then immediately betray him to Khorne hardly compassionate dude haha!

[@chrispaice5583]

Chris Spink That’s Lorgar 😅😂

[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

I think the fact that gilliman wanted sanguineous to be the emperor is because deep down he needs someone to salute he's a great leader a great administrator but he still needs to be under someone's authority

[@ianharrison5758]

Guilleman is neither a leader nor a servant he is a coordinator and is willing to take whatever role he needs to within that spectrum to do his duty. He will crusade under the emperor or leading the imperium itself in the future because at the end of the day, his purpose is to be able to coordinate governmental structures and warfare on any level at any time

[@elliottbelmont7065]

He is a perfect regent not emperor, underneath someone or even better serving in someones stead in selected parts instead of the entiretity makes him far more effective

[@commissaryarrick9670]

That is what makes guilliman such a great leader . He doesnt want to be the leader. He would rather be in the background working but unfortunately for him he has to be the leader because he is the best choice and men will follow him

[@mitchjames9350]

Nah he is what is needed of him, if he is needed to be emperor he will be the emperor. I think he is probably the best for the job overall.

[@Shabbyorange101]

Thanks Rho, fantastic week.

[@BrilliantSunsGaming]

Not gonna lie, I'm really liking Roboute Guilliman. I do hope there's another primarch who returns though. FOR THE EMPEROR!

[@bryanbrown5886]

I feel like Vulcan should have been the big bro that all the other primarchs could open up to cus he would give the best pep talks and bear hugs lol

[@deeezey_2239]

Keep em up Really love your vids If possible do a video about the sword of emperor

[@WorgenGrrl]

I've been learning about the Lore for over a year now and know the basics about the Primarchs...but this...hearing the love between them as brothers...it gives me a whole new apreciation of them.

[@eichler721]

Love the Primarch moments. The combat is epic but the talking points are just so well written and give meaning to the Primarch's actions.

[@INSOMNIAREX]

Oh and yet the new Lion miniature is probably the best yet, the head most certainly, with interchangeable helmet.

[@chocholmaster]

They done fantastic job on Roboute recently, started with know no fear and then recent work of Guy haley ! I want to vomit when i still see this hate going for Guilliman and ultramarines, he is in a sense like Captain America of avengers but with more layers of character added in recent books. Why is so that over there fans love and cheer a good men and in warhammer they still hate like old fans of Metallica that say tha band ended on - Kill them All :) Its silly and i hope that it s gonna get better and people gonna stop saying that someone like ultras and he boring and bland. Boring and bland very often means succes and winning - being disciplined and extraordinary in ordinary :) Cheers for everyone and big love for this channel.

[@daydreamsp]

Sanguinuis is so regal and majestic

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Imperium secundus is some of the best artwork I've seen done for 40k. Seeing guilliman with his lighting claws in the air roaring with sanguinius standing calmly watching over their "new" empire. Just badass.

[@Crack_the_Skye]

They needed to be triumvirate leadership. Sanguinius the voice, Roboute the Pen and Lion'El the Sword.

[@mitchjames9350]

And Rus the fixer.

[@davidkahil5158]

I think wolf lord rho is my favorite lore master, I started out really liking Leutin09 I still do...but I think the Wolf Lord gives us such insight to the characters, its really amazing.

[@AceTycho]

Really enjoyed the music this week on these! You chose perfectly.

[@LoftOfTheUniverse]

If Sanguinious ever comes back, I'll start a blood angel army. Other than that, forget space marines

[@Uploaded1995]

I am probably putting Sanguinius and the Blood Angels as my favourites after this week and doing some of my own reading. That being said I also appreciate the work that's done to develop characters like the Khan and Guilliman, who are perhaps less 'flashy' but no less interesting as characters.

[@aguspuig6615]

that drawing alwasy cracks me up a little, gulliman is like ''WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'''

[@brandondemers1769]

Let next week be that of Vulkan and mighty hugs! STOMP STOMP

[@TheSMC1988]

Wow this was amazing! I have to get this book in some format plus Fear to Tread. 🏆 You're the best Rho

[@solortus]

that glorious of image of papa smurf in complete triumph while raising his brother's hand always puts a smile on my face

[@fireemblemistrash75]

*Apothecry here, moisture detected in visor. Recommendation: Cry really hard*

[@thekingmoose8004]

I think if Sanguinius returned in current 40k Guilliman would greet him with tears of unfathomable joy. a brother thought gone forever now returned.

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

i like how the emperor literally fucked himself with a big my bad guys i mean you cant even say, i hope you get the punishment you deserve as he got all the punishment he could possibly get imagine you are in that position youd be pretty much done with everything too

[@thenson1Halo]

RagnaRock&Roll... GWAR ftw. They're 100% from the grim dark and Oderus Urungus is the forgotten primarch of the XIth Legion.

[@michaelriddick7116]

He'd ride Gor Gor into battle! :D

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

How could anybody NOT like this video? It was a great conversation, Roboute chastened by the Angel.

[@watchonjar]

I hate when people say Robute is boring, hes not boring id argue he is just the most human out of all of them. In that he isnt overly violent like angron, nor is he as emotionally contained as the khan or the lion. He also doesn't value human life as little as the night haunter, while not crossing the border that Vulcan seemingly does into over valuing every last person to the detriment of strategic military objectives. In general I think robute is what most people would be if they where endowed with all of the abilities of a primarch.

[@howsmydriving-ei2yn]

I disagree he is the most boring, because he had a reasonably stable upbringing which also reflects on his ideals and success. Others like the death lord or angron had to be saved from certain death there was no happy ending. The primarchs that landed on death worlds had to fight to survive. What was his biggest trial like compared to the others?

[@thejonrezcontent5213]

@@howsmydriving-ei2yn His biggest trial is pulling what was left of imperium of man.

[@lacroixplainfeather5343]

One of the best Primarch interactions, would Love to see how Vulkan and Papa Smurf interact?! haha

[@lacroixplainfeather5343]

@Ahmad Zubair ya that's what I was thinking and how Vulkan is down right disgusted with how the humans are being treated. I think anyways haha

[@TotalWarDesigner]

Hey I noticed you ticked over to 43k from 42.8k! Congrats :)

[@khartog01]

When Vulkan returns and walks into that chamber, Guilliman will shout an order to clear the area. He will remain stern and resolute until it empties. Then he'll collapse into Vulkan's waiting arms and have a much needed cry. Vulkan gives the hug that will save humanity.

[@brandonhughes4571]

Love it keep it up please and will you do alpharasis week or logar my lord kneels

[@nogodsnomasters7669]

This goes to show that they were all flawed in there own ways ( except Russ of course) all had trouble trusting each other Horus just made it worse

[@mio87]

Is it just me which love that Lion make his brother Roboute so angry 😂

[@tathagat9586]

Lion is essentially respected by most primarchs , while others openly insult Gulliman 😂 Curze used to call him gulliweed and even the stoic mortarian hoped lion would be back instead of gulliman. Gulliman himself had a simp fan moment when he saw lion jump down from the craft. "Unhand me brother or we will swiftly find out which of us is the better fighter" 😂Lion eldiablo jonSnow. 😂Gulliman wiftly runs to sanguinius later when the fleet arrives.

[@fifthofascalante7311]

Talking; that's the exciting stuff I've been looking forward to! It's not what they say that gets me, but the things that are hinted at. Could they have prepared for Chaos had they known? How?

[@orcslayerwhatifs4507]

I dont know much but maybe 1 of the 2 unknown primarchs was meant to fight against the forces of chaos and he fell or something along those line and then russ was sent to kill him maybe after russ did that the emperor erased his memories.Because i remember that horus got his god like powers he said hes been there before with the emperor but cant put his finger on it or something like that .meaning the emperor could have erased his memories butnlike i said i dont know much

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Total Eradication would be how Big E keeps chaos from the primarch’s. Erase everything, the missing legions, the sons, plinths, names, memories.... chaos knows no quarter when compared to potential corruption. Would explain why Big E hesitation on taking out Horus.... he had already done it 1-2 times.... 3rd time not being the charm nor hat-trick...

[@notdoomguy1616]

Just how can you not love these two?

[@asakura8329]

I like how Guilliman created Imperium Secundus as the second Imperium of Man in case the first one was destroyed and to make Sanguinius it's emperor. It's like how your big brother messes up something in the house. You know that you're big bro is gonna get an asswhooped by your parents but he just blames it on you because his to much of a whimp to take it.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

One day we will get a series of the horus heresy to watch and it will be glorious!

[@FatalShadow13]

One of the reasons why Guy Haley is one of my favorite Black Library

[@FatalShadow13]

Also I believe there's no good answer to the question of if the Emperor was right or wrong to keep the knowledge of Chaos and the gods from his sons. Yes they could have been armored by the knowledge, but that doesn't mean they couldn't still be tempted by the dark powers. I mean you can't say that knowledge would have stopped Lorgar from siding with Chaos, and who knows if it would have helped Horus any. Also you'd have to ask if Fulgrim would have recognised the Lair Blade for a Daemon weapon if he'd known about Chaos. I feel like Angron would have fallen to Khonate worship sooner or later because of the damned nails as well. Perterabo, well who knows really what would have happened, maybe if he'd known what the Obliterator Virus would do to a number of his sons. As with anything in 30k or 40k, it's extremely complicated.

[@PZY.Studios]

My 2 favortie primarchs robot girlyman and Birb

[@darkseidofapokolips9796]

3:57 This is why the Angel should have been war master.

[@angelcorrea985]

As malcador said, knowledge of the warp and the ruinous powers would have led to more than just horus falling. Horus didn't even seek out chaos, treachery was at fault there, but had he known about it, or had the other primarchs known about it, they would have focused on it and no matter their intentions, they would have fallen to it. Imagine if Dorn or Roboute had fallen to it with Horus. Malcador shut that hindsight down with the final word on it and he knows the warp just like the Emporer does. This is the authors way of letting us know this, so having an opinion opposed to that is kind of bad reading comprehension. Literary tactics are kind of universal when it comes to story telling and I've always found them to be pretty obvious. The only things left to personal interpretation are the subjects that we are left absolutely in the black about which is an economic tactic. Like the Emporers origin... There isn't one. Because its a corporation, They'll decide on one when they feel like it's more profitable than not giving one to us. I feel like you, Wolf Lord Rho, always hit the nail on the head when it comes to what you think. I don't think that you "think", I think you that you "know" because of comprehensive reading skills.

[@angelcorrea985]

That being said it's still fun to read other people's opinions.

[@RandMantearTheDragon]

They all needed a father more then an Emperor. TTS kitten is best Step Emperor.

[@sevenstar77]

Keep up the good work.

[@BStenlund]

It's to soon my lord! we need more Sanguinius! ^^

[@KaiserAfini]

When Lorgar needed him the most, when his weaknesses were laid plain, Guilliman chastised him with coldness. I imagine this made his brothers less inclined to confide in him.

[@kelman727]

KaiserAfini Not even the Chaos Primarchs liked Lorgar.

[@KaiserAfini]

@@kelman727 Not even his own legion did.

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Erabus. Would have been a better primarch than lorgar....weak sauce.... *shudders*

[@randomcenturion7264]

@@HammarPwnsYourFace (wretches) The mere thought of that absolute arsehole with Primarch abilities is revolting. He's bad enough as he is.

[@Ventruethful]

Lorgar is a bitch, we can all agree on that BUT "By the way, in the Horus Heresy novels it's seen he actually cared a lot for all of his brothers and tried to befriend them. Closest to him among his brothers was perhaps Magnus, which is more than you can say about some loyalist primarchs. Though with different approaches, they were both more scholars than warriors, with lifelong pursuit of knowledge and enlightenment. And both felt more or less distanced from others due to their interests ad ideologies. So its natural that the Religious Preacher and a Philosopher King saw kindred spirits in eachother. He was also pretty much the only one who cared about Angron in some way and actually ran the ritual which transformed Angron into a Daemon Prince, thus freeing him of the Butcher's Nails and premature death. He even seems to be good friends with Leman Russ, referenced in Betrayer given that Russ read something Lorgar wrote and thought that was some spiritual shit worth remembering, which is pretty significant considering how down-to-earth this guy was. Also in The First Heretic, Magnus tells Lorgar that Russ argued for preserving Lorgar's place in the crusade and sparing him excommunication when the Emps was pondering kicking Lorgar to the curb. More significantly, when Lorgar asked Russ and Magnus to stop fighting, they actually listened. The two Primarchs who just might have had the most mutual hatred stopped fighting because Lorgar asked them to." (source is 1d4chan)

[@oneshotking89]

Just subed. I'm a night lords dude but great story telling. Death to the false emperor. Keep up the good work and keep safe. lml

[@TDBoedy]

I think revealing the flaws might have introduced more doubt in their father. I am sure that is what is on Sanguinius' mind.

[@TheReaper569]

WHAT? YOU DID NOT SAY YOUR CATCHPHRASE !! "but with that said, lets just jump straight in"

[@minisarefuntopaint]

I'm not surprised that Sanguinius couldn't talk about The Flaw to Guilliman. After all, look what happened after Horus managed to drag the information out of him. Used against him and his legion at Signus Prime.

[@TheShepherd2305]

I actually really loved this book. One of my favorites!

[@lightningblade6067]

Emperor bless

[@horuslupercalaurelian1569]

So Sanginus' and Roboute Beratheons mothers must have been blondes because the Emp. Has some black ass hair, in reality Rowboat should have dark brown hair, and Sangria should have jet black hair like his father, I know Astartes wasn't a blonde, you know what I mean. I'm so freakin pissed!! I'm writing a letter to black horse, I mean library, as we speak!

[@AdeptKing]

I doubt all of the Primarchs would react well if the Emperor told them about Chaos. Guilliman and Sanguinius would probably be fine. Many of the others would probably be fine too but a lot of them would probably immediately turn traitor.

[@watchonjar]

at the end of plague wars you get to see robute angry aswell

[@thetalon100]

Love these little moments between the Primarchs, but I happened to have a thought: In the current timeline, when Guilliman visited Baal (or rather saved Baal from the Tyranids), do you think he would've been able to access the Blood Angels' Librarius to read the Scrolls of Sanguinius? Do you think any of the insights of the scrolls might have helped him in the days to come?

[@DrZayfin]

if konrad curze and sanguinius could see the future the same, the reason why sanguinius is so good at connecting is that he see. he see all his brothers dying will be the only way to save all of them. he could only see up to that point if he lived, all of humanity would perish the through the chaos powers. if he dies then their only fate without predictions, somthing that could be molded. he grew up with this power seeing everyone dying some way or another since his birth. he understands that he has the limited life span. also could just be another of tzeentchs plots.

[@thomasa8814]

Half of accepting people is letting go of what you want of them, the other is accepting them for who they are. Guilliman not being able to control the Lion would drive him crazy, I can't imagine. 😂

[@scrubsrc4084]

The angel never disappoints

[@samhobbs9116]

Everyone always says that if they fell to Chaos it would have been to Khorne but I always think that Slaanesh might have had a good shot at it too. Angel boi is considered to be pretty much perfect by everyone including other primarchs. Only internally did he suffer about being cursed and being wiped out by another chapter. So if our favourite hedonist came along and said yea I can fix that for you, make you truly perfect angel boi you and all your sons too. Wings for everyone. Hard deal to pass up I say and much better than, become a rage monster for the rest of eternity for me please?

[@TacynMegan]

Too short we need a Sanguinius MONTH

[@TheColosiss]

I play Ultramarines. I am unashamed. Guilliman could have ruled but saw in his brother a far greater being. Guilliman saw these in Dante. He may be cold and calculating at times; but Guilliman is no fool. He is the perfect tragic hero. He gave his life, his loyalty, and his best friend, his bother, to ensure the survival of Mankind. Sanguinius was not only his brother, but his closest and most beloved friend. The regret, the loss, the pain Guilliman endures is beyond comprehension. I truly believe he is worthy of his position.

[@horatio_]

SANGUINIS week was hype

[@madtrapper1312]

After sanguininus week please do the anchents await in the sons of the emperor anthology it explained what happened to ancient rylanor who virus bombed Deamon fulgrim

[@jaqdraco]

We all just going to ignore those guys in the bottom right who look distinctly like genestealer cultists A whole new spin on Giddyman's 'special' empire within an empire

[@willkuehler8918]

Did you do Sanguinius week on Holy Week on purpose?

[@mitchjames9350]

Rob as the Emperor and Sangiunis as his advisor similar to Malcador.

[@siuhunteo365]

If these 3 primarchs were alive in the 41k timeline, surely the imperium of man would be restored to glory

[@warren2717warren]

The more I think about it the more I think Konrad was amazing. Unlike all the other primarchs he wasn’t plagued by vanity or blind faith. He saw how it was. I would love to see a nightlords comeback in the future

[@andreanecchi5930]

You can make a video for Sanguinius and Vullkan ?

[@yible3278]

And we shall name this suo: *SANGUILLIMAN*

[@chivokski5294]

Gulliman and Sanguinius were actually the perfect pair, a realist and idealist