SANGUINIUS MEETS JAGHATAI KHAN!

[@aidank21]

You're a hero dude. The Khan doesn't even win the poll and we still get a video on him. Ya da best dam 40k lore channel

[@selensleftearflap6808]

Exactly my thought. I was disappointed The Khan didn't win but hey this works too

[@Gnarlf]

And the third option was at least mentioned in the passage. Damn that was a brilliant pick.

[@heatherordonez1490]

*sigh*

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

Ohmaghai son of Ohmaghai, approves of the Great Khan being 1st. The Angel can have the 2nd....

[@denisvezijak9219]

Yes 👍

[@CAP198462]

Sanguinius: You’re Jaghatai Khan? I’m Sanguinius.. Khan: BIRD! Sanguinius: no no no, Sanguinius Khan: BIRD!

[@osmosisjones2822]

Had me going this one xD

[@jungoogie]

Bu bu bu bird! Bird! Bird is the word!

[@mitchellbrough1615]

I'm just thinking of the scene from tarzan where Clayton teaches him to speak😂😂

[@murderc27]

@@mitchellbrough1615 the khan would hate that you see him as such a savage.

[@lilpretzel5629]

It's not bird it's birb ;_;

[@An_Imperial_Guard.]

Sanguinius: My brother, at last, is a pleasure to meet... Jaghatai Khan: Gotta go fast! You are too slow! **runs away**

[@LoganSearles]

Sounds like an episode of “ text to speech”

[@temmy9]

It's interesting how sanguinius is everything Fulgrim wanted to be, and could have been without the hubris.

[@ericmiller254]

Why do people say this/ Sanguinius is the most tainted primarch, he has obviously visible mutations....Even more tainted than magnus He could never be as perfect as fulgrim, he has wings and a demon's soul. The blood angels aren't red ultra marines who can fight in a melee well.

[@ed8212]

@@ericmiller254 That is horrendously stupid, even by the low standards of usual Chaos propaganda

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

In Fulgrims own Primarch Book and Ferrus Manus’s Primarch book, we see that Fulgrim! The noble flawless super sword-dancer! The book Fulgrim is quit shit in my opinion, because his fall is too fast!

[@ginobarone9505]

Nha, Fulgrim longed for perfection, but it was never within his grasp to attain it, he could have never held a candle to Sanguinius.

[@enmaanubissativa]

Theres a story about how jaghatai saw fulgrim trying so much to be perfect yet sanguinus seating next to him looked perfect and the ostentation simply enhances rather looked put upon

[@porphyrienne]

I feel like Jaghatai explained himself because Sanguinius took the time to a) not lecture him and b) listen to him

[@chrisbennett6236]

Sanguinius always thought of himself as no better than equal to each of his brothers. He never believed he was better even by a little. He was the unifying force his brothers needed at the time. But how do you convince such a humble soul to take command of his brothers? I doubt so many of his brothers would have fallen to Chaos had Sanguinius been the Warmaster or Regent. Horus definitely wouldn't have. Unfortunately I feel Lorgar and Angron were already gone by the time Horus was made Warmaster so I don't think anyone could have changed that.

[@justinlammers699]

@@chrisbennett6236 it should have been him. Amirite

[@Leisurelee53]

@@chrisbennett6236 you're so right.. but missing a key factor. The flaw. Sanguinius had a physical flaw, and it was beautiful enough to allow ownership and even to inspire people. But only a fool would think it did not make him self conscious. Stack that on top of the red thirst. A terrible, debilitating weakness in his sons that he went through great pains to hide. Glorious Hawk boy was so painfully beautiful. Calming. Easy going. Like Vulkan I believe he was the most human of his brothers. But Vulkan had a childhood of virtue and centered values. Of all of them a very human upbringing. Sanguinius thought himself a monster. Or at least a father to them. He did not indulge in the pride of Horus or the vainglory of Fulgrim. He understood the duality of superiority and weakness. He was adored, because he was humble. Feared not because he was fearless, but because he understood fear. And he loved his brothers because he knew in some way somewhere, they all were as flawed as he.

[@michaelcritter7933]

@@Leisurelee53 nicely written.

[@syaz2609]

This is such a welcome reveal of what makes Sanguinius so special in his brothers' eyes. I mean, even Angron and Perturabo can't find a reason to be angry at him. And he almost guilt-tripped Curze into seeking forgiveness. Gonna be an awesome week!!

[@chrisbennett6236]

Now imagine how much fewer of the Primarchs would have become traitors with Sanguinius as the Warmaster.

[@kazmark_gl8652]

@@chrisbennett6236 basically just Lorgar and Horus.

[@vczs]

I'd bet Angron, Perturabo still would go traitor considering their background stories and Lorgars' ability to convince. Alpha Legion might or might not get involved in that too. Last but not least Night Lords too. Konrad would have some vision of future shenanigans etc.

[@servinginhellaimingforheav2446]

@@chrisbennett6236 Lorgar, Horus and Angron and maybe Curze

[@servinginhellaimingforheav2446]

And thats amazing coming from Angron considering hes angry at everything

[@chrisbennett6236]

I'd like to read about how Jaghatai takes seeing Sanguinius' broken body in Dorn's arms. I can't imagine he took it well.

[@Marqui91]

Inside crying likely

[@blackouthorus1519]

Well his forces did chase the traitors to the eye so i can say he probably didnt take it too well .

[@LynxLord1991]

None of the loyalist takes it well when Sanguinius dies or the emperor for that matter they all know what that means for the imperium and even more so it grieves them to have lost the perfect one as he is often seen as the best of them. How would anyone react to their brothers death they are heart broken they deal with it differently and that is the interesting writing

[@Hatchmatter]

He wouldn't find sang in dorns arms. He would find dorn building fortifications around his corpse with traitor corpses. "Come brother, assist me in fortifying this position."

[@TheVanillaBandit]

@@Hatchmatter Too soon to joke, brother

[@An_Imperial_Guard.]

**Sanguinius weeks starts** Papa Bone: **happy skeleton noises**

[@godemperorofmankind7255]

Bone daddy is pleased.

[@KP-tl7ir]

Glorious golden hawk boy returns.

[@ITSBurgerPT]

Zoomer Waffen tts is probably the best 40k series/movie out there... Personaly I love tts, and if you think im wrong id be happy to know what other amazing media is out there that can actualy stand on its own merits. And yes, Astartes is great.

[@An_Imperial_Guard.]

@@godemperorofmankind7255 Emperor protects.

[@An_Imperial_Guard.]

@Zoomer Waffen TTS is one of the reasons the fandom keeps increasing. Once they taste the basic stuff they naturally want more.

[@Batuhanify]

I suppose, Sanguinius wasn't named Warmaster, because he was supposed to be named Regent, after the need for Malcador's way of prosecuting things has passed of course. Knowing the man, he would be more than willing to pass the title to Sanguinius, and play an advisory role. And to be clear, no one would've objected to this, not a single primarch. That is why both Guilliman and Lion can agree to name Sangiunius Imperator Regis in Imperium Secundus.

[@christophercombs7561]

He would have never accepted the role as warmaster any way

[@chrisbennett6236]

I'm also fairly sure both the Emperor and Malcador knew Sanguinius would never except the role.

[@Batuhanify]

@@chrisbennett6236 He would, as he did in Imperium Secundus.

[@christophercombs7561]

@@chrisbennett6236 probably true

[@ArcherDrake287]

Christopher Combs Sanguinius will obey if the Emperor demands it. If you remember their first meeting, Sanguinius easily offered his service to the Emperor. He's loyal asf

[@a.d.3352]

Khan is amongst my favorite Primarch's as well as Sanguinius

[@christianmoralesortiz4688]

SAME!!!

[@Shikoi73]

Thinking on why the Emperor chose Horus over Sanguinius, a thought struck me. It might be that the reason for Horus being chosen may very well have been a too human trait. That the Emperor was afraid for what would happen if he chose Sanguinius. In truth, it could take multiple routes along that path of logic. A: If the Emperor was indeed a bit more cold and pragmatic regarding the Primarchs, then the fact that Sanguinius was a mutant would take him out of the running to be the symbol chosen to rally around. He would serve as a tool for the Emperor's plan, and then be easily discarded at the end. More so since he failed to meet the standards of perfection of the human form. B: The Emperor could have been afraid that the genetic flaw in Sanguinius would present an unacceptable danger, or weakness, should he be elevated to Warmaster. That at the most inopportune time Sanguinius would fall prey to something he couldn't fight, and that all the grand vision the Emperor had for the galaxy would be thrown into disarray. Or, C, the one I kind of favor: That the Emperor was afraid that Sanguinius was too much like Him. That, for all the personality, for all the charisma, the vision, the dedication to the cause of humanity, that instead of seeing those things, everyone would focus on that ethereal aspect to them. That always, no matter what, the Emperor is defined by his god-like psychic might, his psychic presence. Never His personality, never his humor, never his humanness. In fact, the Emperor is simply considered Not Human, above and beyond human; even though there are times when the Emperor is just as human as any non-psyker. Sanguinius? The very same thing was pointed out in this video. Everyone focuses on his beauty, his regal appearance, his wings. He is kind, passionate, charismatic, and obviously possesses a tactical mind and dogged determination. Jaghatai recognizes these for a moment, and yet is still immediately drawn to Sangunius' appearance. His angelic form. Any average human would obviously be drawn to the same thing, the ethereal nature of Sanguinius. The non-human, heavenly, god-like aspect, rather than the human within. The Emperor passed over all the Primarchs, save Horus, because they embodied some aspect TOO much: Conrad: Too broken, too focused on retribution. The Lion: Too secretive. Angron: Too angry and wrathful. Lorgar: Too pious. Jaghatai: Too wild and free. Dorn: Too regimented. Fulgrim: Too vain, too obsessed with the appearance of perfection. Vulkan: Too idealistic and gentle. For Sanguinius? Maybe it was simply that Sanguinius was too much like the Emperor, in all the ways the Emperor feared. That he was too obviously unlike the average human. That he was too easy to deify. That he was too beloved; so much so that none would ever think to question him, in the same way that none but Malchador would dare question the Emperor. But Horus? He was loved, but not universally held above questioning by his brothers. Ambitious, but not unmalleable (much to the galaxy's detriment). Demigod-esque, but not wholly un-relatable to the human condition; indeed, perhaps too human in his flaws. So the Emperor chose Horus, maybe because He thought that Horus was close to what He wished He could be. Someone that humanity would follow eagerly, but not deify. Someone that could bear the Imperial Truth without being seen as something beyond what humanity could be. But, that's just my ramblings on the subject.

[@lilsnabes]

Personally I think with the emperor's foresight that he knew there was a high chance that whoever he made warmaster would fall . And between the three top choices Horus at the end of the day was one he could lose and still carry out his plans . Roberte was to good at logistics to lose . Sanguineous was like you say too much like him and with the black rage had a chance of being a I lose button . Meanwhile Horus while not the best at anything other than being charasmatic was 2nd best at everything. Horus was the guy we all work with that gets promoted a lot because he never made himself irreplaceable. He was always damn good at everything , but Lionel or Lehman would probably kick his ass in a fight , roberte would probably win a war against him while also doing his taxes . You get the point

[@dmanlip]

I always thought that emps didn't chose sanguinius because he was aware of the flaws sanguinius showed during the imperium secundus. Sure sanguinius is a capable leader, but he is also a hands-on micromanager with a heart of gold; he's a guy who wants the best for everyone, will ensure that everyone is taken care of, and gets bogged down in indecisiveness when it means having to hurt someone. And when you have over 4,200 expedition fleets to manage being lead by a micromanager... nothing would ever get done.

[@Narunata247]

He didn’t choose Sanguinius because the Big E knew whoever was chosen war master would fall to Chaos. He sacrificed Horus soul to save those who he believed would better lead the Imperium.

[@xuanquang9815]

I would like to think that after the great crusade, the Emperor himself will step down and leave the position to Sanguinius, yes, he will be the new Emperor, new master of mankind, so that big E can do his thing like more science and stuff.

[@DoanDeland]

Horus was practical and pragmatic, where Sang was idealistic and possessed of a duality. If you wanted someone to grind out a nearly impossible task such as the great crusade, you would want a warmaster of Horus's temperament. If you wanted a symbolic leader, Sanguinius.

[@FireRevanShadow]

When angel dust meets speed

[@OGSpaceMarine]

*I can only imagine* Khan: So...can you go fast with those wings? Sanguinious: Uh...ya? Me: 😂

[@amandeepgill5206]

Khan: Noice 👌

[@TheIWNH]

Sanguinius: I love all my brother, but.. that one brother... PTSD kicks in of Vulkan crushing him and his wings with a mega hug

[@Redfoxjack]

Vulkan : my dear bruddah sanguinius wait sanguinius: Vulkan nice to see you I really must be going great crusade and all. Vulkan: We’re do ya fink yer going, i got mega hugs ta give ya kome hear ya git.

[@amandeepgill5206]

@@Redfoxjack Sanguinius: Ah no not again!

[@danielsmith762]

Can I get a big Mega hug, Drake papa?

[@dukeofmania6504]

RedFox jack Has warp fuckery made it so throughout the timeline he’s half orc?

[@kedarraman6690]

Vulkan would probably be the most careful with sanguinius and fulgrim

[@isaacjones748]

I honestly think that the whole "Why Horus vs Pigeonboi" warmaster debate has to do with assertiveness. Sanguinius is described time and again, despite all his charisma, beauty, grace and charm, to be have an element of relaxation inherent to his personality. He's been written, even in this very reading, to recline into his seat. When Fulgrim has that little argument with the Khan and the Angel is present, he barely gets involved at all. He seems almost passive, almost because he knows he's loved by everyone so he doesn't take sides. Horus, on the other hand, is very fucking opinionated in comparison. They might be as good in terms of skill in different stuff, but Horus (to me at least) seems WAY more possessed by a burning need to DO SOMETHING instead of just be languid in his acceptance of his purpose. Sanguinius is very accepting of who he is and what he is for. Passivity to his father's cause because his heart is already there, whereas Horus is more active because his HEAD is there. Eventually, I think it's because Horus convinces himself of the path to Chaos. Chaos just nudges him in the direction because he's got that classic fault of thinking he knows all. Sanguinius believes in his heart, and therefore is incorruptible. Horus believes with his head, making him potentially the most valuable asset the Emperor had, until with lil' Chaotic glimpses and pokes his head convinces him of a superior path. If anyone has any other opinions, I'd love to hear them. This, to me, is the defining difference between the Angel of the People, loved by the whole Imperium as a symbol of hope, and Horus as the spearhead and thinking brain, driving the great crusade with a burning will.

[@ericmiller254]

While i agree with your assessment of Horus, he is portrayed as representing "ambition". And also it's implied that the Emperor saw this sort of betrayal coming, but it was bigger and sooner than he had imagined...I STRONGLY disagree with your assessment of sanguinius and the blood angles tho They're the most tainted (or second most behind the thousand sons). They are some fo the least perfect legions, they are all flawed. All their origin stories involve failures of one kind or another, making up for a lost brother who died for them or whatever, and they all have the chaos tainted black rage. That's where his "purity" comes from. Because the blood angels are so impure in body they are portrayed as more resilient to the call of khorne which they are used to via the black rage. He is so warp tainted he has wings.....Their whole schtick is they're perfect on the outside to try to make up for the terrrrrible truth on the inside. Would make little sense for the guy who made the blood angels to be the closest legion to the purely demonic to put them in charge of his armies. It's unclear if E wanted sanguinius to have wings. But it is clear he wanted him to be basically be a half demon relative to the other legions. They are not the perfect bois, those are smurfs. Blood angels are more flawed than any of the other loyal chapters by a wide margin. That's why Sanguinius could never be chosen by E. Only worse choice would be the Thousand Sons As a brother, why would u get in between a meaningless squabble between your brothers? It makes no sense to involve urself. I don't see that little interaction as relevant. If anything Sanguinius proved why he would be the better leader. Sanguinius couldn't have been warmaster ever as long as he was chosen by the E You're portraying them as red ultramarines....Which is absurd. Horus' legion was a lot more plain and closer to the ultramarines than the blood angels

[@lynnusuk2092]

Tbh I see sanguinius more of great a head figure to recruit to the cause, but his gene flaw, passiveness and less experience in cooperating with other legions was why Horus got the role. The legions needed a war master cause they needed a leader that unite them and solve conflicts between them rather than not get involved until they gotten to the point that they start planning open rebellion. A example of this is with mortarion, he hated the warp and sorcery but he would still be loyal to Horus even if he knew the path they’re heading. He rejected the gifts of chaos throughout the heresy, only when his legion was held by gun point by nurgle did he concedes. This is what the emperor saw in Horus, he made one of the primarchs that hated the warp the most, loyal to him the very conduit of chaos, if Horus was loyal then the decision might have been a right one since it’d probably easier for loyalist Horus to convince mortarion that the thing destroyed his planet is a foe rather than the imperium.

[@jgw9990]

@@ericmiller254 Being aware of your deficiencies is the first step to conquering them. Also they weren't "the most flawed" Magnus's legion earns that title given he literally had to form a pact with the warp to stop them spontaneously combusting because they were so unstable.

[@ericmiller254]

@@jgw9990 Magnus wasn't tainted, his legion was The primarch of the blood angels was tainted, along with his legion. And i acknowledged the sons in my post. Thanks tho? No other primarch has close to the flaws sanguinius has. Russ' wolf crap is portrayed as "pure" and he wasn't born with wings.

[@AdeptKing]

The thing with Horus is that he's also been shown to have a bit of a jealousy streak or a paranoid one sometimes too. He believed the Lion and Guilliman were jealous of him even though they didn't mind that he was picked. He was also jealous though internally that those two were close to matching his crusading record even though they were found a lot later than he was. Sanguinius seems to just be relatively chill when he's with his brothers.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

The Edict of Nikaea was utterly asinine. It robbed the Loyalist Astartes legions of one of their greatest weapons against the forces of Chaos.

[@jgw9990]

Magnus had literally already formed a pact with chaos before Nikea. The thousand sons were a time bomb.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@Chaos Undivided Unlikely. Banning Psyckers removes the training infrastructure to allow Psyckers to control their powers and it is well known that Psyckers with no control of their powers present the greatest vulnerability to Chaos. Hell, the Thousand Sons might not have gone full Chaos if they hadn't been besieged by the Space Wolves.

[@garrettkiley522]

That is because chaos was behind the while thing.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@jgw9990 The Emperor could have purged the corruption from Magnus.

[@chrisbennett6236]

@@jgw9990 Magnus wasn't aware of the pact or where the power was coming from. He doesn't learn these things until his fight with Russ and realizes he has no choice but to follow through with the blind pact despite who was with. I also doubt he'd have fallen to Chaos without the impending threat of Russ and the his Wolves attacking Prospero. Magnus haters so easily forget that he tried hard to stop Chaos's plans up to the very moment Russ broke his back. He even stopped himself killing Russ in a rage after tearing out one of his hearts. Magnus didn't fall he was broken, literally and figuratively.

[@thatasianguy1768]

I voted the Khan and never expected both nice...

[@chrisbennett6236]

Same here. Buts it's nice to see how well they hit off from day one.

[@thatasianguy1768]

Yeah its surprising specially with the attitude of the Khan being quiet, serious and stoic all the time

[@chrisbennett6236]

I feel bad for whoever these two campaigned together against. Blood Angels and White Scars would be devastating and awe inspiring to see.

[@cuddlestheadorable1153]

they fight in the siege of terra

[@cuddlestheadorable1153]

together

[@gannonfrank]

@@cuddlestheadorable1153 and during the great retreat of the traitors to the eye of terror both could fight together and there are other pre-heresy opportunity's

[@nosignal7156]

Sanguinius is the guy you don't want to battle against in the open sky. Jaghatai is the guy you don't want to battle against in a pitch black ork cave.

[@TheJustcae]

Sanguinius might have a hard time fighting when the traitors flee to the Eye.

[@glorilol9546]

The bromance between sanguinius and The khan is one of The underrated relationship of The primarchs

[@chrisbennett6236]

Wait! Jaghatai laughs??? Only Sanguinius can catch him and make him laugh. Thank you for this Wolf Lord. My two favorite Primarchs having a good time is definitely a highlight to my year so far.

[@Nyctophora]

But is he ticklish?

[@Dir_Grobbman]

I appreciated this scene from the audiobook. The khan almost immediately finds reluctant kinship with the angel. The jab at purterabo from sanguinius was hilarious as well.

[@alejandrorojas1423]

Hahaha. Puertorabo digs holes 😂

[@MisterTwoScoops]

Last time I was this early Horus wasn't even discovered.

[@MrJara1018]

I’d love to see Fulgrims 1st reaction to Sanguinius .

[@robertoleary5470]

MrJara1018 Fulgrim: I am the prettyi... (sees the angel) Emporer damn it!!

[@miguelortiz3836]

If I recall correctly, Fulgrim first met him on Terra along with Ferrus. Sanguinius had just arrived from Baal bringing jewels and pieces of art and Fulgrim was delighted to discover that another Primarch shared his interest in art and beauty but Ferrus wasn't impressed and said it was all pointless, so Fulgrim told him he has a terrible Gorgon and that is how Ferrus got his moniker. I don't recall if Sanguinius said anything about Fulgrim though.

[@NemFX]

Have you seen Zoolander?

[@syaz2609]

I wonder if seeing Sanguinius affected Fulgrim's idea of perfection. We know he sees the Eperor as a perfect being, yet the most flawless of his brothers is also clearly a mutant. Beautiful and pure of heart, but mutated with wings. Oh and Ferrus, too. Interactions between him and Sanguinius have been almost nonexistent

[@miguelortiz3836]

@@syaz2609 I recall Fulgrim talking about how he was the most perfect and beautiful of the Primarchs and that only Sanguinius came close to him but that he fell short because he was tainted with the mutation of his wings while he, Fulgrim, was truly perfect. I think it was on his Primarch book but I can't remember.

[@fdajax5107]

Angel boy: nice to meet you Khan: ha ha fast thing go zoom

[@TakCWAL]

The Khan's portrait looks like Max von Sydow in Flash Gordon.

[@jeangale6914]

Both brothers have a good sense of style unlike curze and his human leather fetish.

[@jeffmusyoka1876]

Don't talk like that about the Lord of Nostramo Quintus ever again 😁

[@nicholascerillo4000]

Better yet, don’t give him any ideas

[@michaelbeale2498]

"He was too dangerous... and too nakedly predatory for that." Dude, even to another Primarch as reserved and skilled as The Khan, Sanguinius gives off those Apex Predator vibes. I cannot wait to see him at the Eternity Gate.

[@Blade40688]

I am honestly curious if Sangunius can disarm Papa Pert for a conversation longer than 3 sentences

[@Cao-Cao-Blue-Army]

Arch Angel Michael meeting Ghenghis khan. @Wolf Lord Rho - WHY YOU TAKE AWAY MY LIKE? -HERESY!

[@jackfrost2978]

Of the Primarchs. Sanguinius seems like an ideal version of the Emperor. It's possible for all of his love of Sanguinius, that the Emperor was a bit uncomfortable with around an idealic version of himself. And that Horus represented a friendship to the Emperor. Similar to what Malcador was to him.

[@ecclesiaandune687]

I enjoy the khans description of his relationships with his brothers. It’s kinda relatable to me, I don’t dislike people, or struggle to understand them but I just feel trapped in obligations in maintaining those relationships as it were. Amazing how they can make a demigod of war so relatable

[@daviddunn4922]

Who’s seen the 5 Astartes videos yet? If you haven’t I recommend you have a look and support the guys making it, wouldn’t of found it if I didn’t watch this amazing channel. So huge thanks are deserved...

[@michaelberger3896]

Ow yes ‘ wolf lord ‘ you made my day . A+

[@davr6383]

Ka'Bandha is happy for Sanguinius week! But not the 3 Warhound-class Titans...

[@shmee123ful]

The emperor's war hawk meeting hawk boi Sanguinus. This is going to be good

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

This is EXACTLY the bit that I wanted you to lead with for this week! As I thought, your judgement is sound as the pound. I love hearing what primarchs, Malcador, or the Emperor thought of the different sons of the Emperor. Here's to a great week!

[@normalboy2907]

And can’t stop looking at the Khan’s eyes.

[@dunepepe6199]

@@idoitonastick8689 Because he is the Emperor's son not a son of Chogoris

[@NemFX]

If you watch carefully, he eventually winks at you.

[@matics453]

_SEDUCTION_

[@solid002793]

He's looking right at us

[@magnuscoles5010]

@@idoitonastick8689 jaghatai is based on central Asians who are mixed, im from central myself and this is the most accurate description of a central asian nomadic figure, there is nothing wrong with his eyes

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

look at those damn eyes man It's like he is staring deep into your soul and telling you to grow a pair.

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

Makes my pants drop with anticipation

[@davidk6269]

In the picture, is Jaghatai Khan pulling a Johnny Depp and wearing eye-liner? Heresy!!!!

[@Nyctophora]

Maybe it ... helps cut down on sun glare on the plains of Chogoris?

[@LordInter]

Why Heresy? He looks bad arse!

[@xzzyyy4686]

I always thought the Scars were a tad tribal so I mean many historic tribes and Empires used makeup on the eyes it makes a man on the battlefield look agro asf think about Khal Drogo from Game of thrones or many a Nord in Skyrim it works

[@magnuscoles5010]

@@xzzyyy4686 Im from central Asia where the khan is based from, we do have a type of eye-liner that is called khina, which warriors used to wear before going to a raid

[@sivartevafal]

Something else to note, Sanguinius referred to the 5th, as their old Legion designator, the “Star Hunters” but he apologizes to the Khan as one of the first things they talk about. To me, this indicates that Sanguinius would rather appear ignorant of the times, rather than ignorant of how the Khan would prefer his legion addressed. It’s little touches like this that I love, Sanguinius knew how to handle his brothers ego’s. It also speaks to the Khans humility that he didn’t take offense to either.

[@chrisbennett6236]

I hope Jaghatai is your second Primarch week. It will make this meeting all the more exciting.

[@jamricsloe]

The Emperor himself said why HE chose Horus as WarMaster. Horus alone matched the Emperor’s ambition to see the Great Crusade finished.

[@timkats6635]

I always found the Khan one of the most dull primarchs, that was untill Wolf Lord Rho introduced me to his literature appearences. Now he is one of the most interesting.

[@SultanFilm]

Chris Wraight has done a lot to add depth to the Khan and the White Scars. I've always been fond of the Scars but their HH books have them now nearly as my favorite after the Raven Guard.

[@ericmiller254]

He is boring as fuck, he is well written in the HH books tho His trait is being "mysterious" which doesn't lend well to the story.

[@tpl145]

@@ericmiller254 boring? he was friend with pretty much all his fallen bro's (except fulgrim), yet he stayed loyal to his big E and loyal bros, he's most complicated primarch, that's why he left imperium on his own

[@timexyemerald6290]

@@ericmiller254 good then. characters evolve over time and becomes more fleshed out and interesting.

[@kieran40k89]

Man I found this channel the other week and was instantly hooked, your passion and enthusiasm is just amazing, keep it up man! From a Sanguinus fanboy

[@wolflordrho]

Thank you!

[@WilliamMcAlpine777]

The Angel always wins in a landslide. Barring that Horus thing...

[@LEEGION42]

After Horus was named warmaster he said to Sanguinius that it should have been him. I dont believe Horus would have been turned againt the angel. It was his Father he had issues with, and in the old lore we were told that after Horus killed Sanguinius a chip in his armour was formed, his grief he felt for killing his favourite brother was ultimatley what weakened the chaos grip on him enough for Big E to get through. It was a story attached to an article in white dwarf discussing Mike Mcvey's infamous diorama, way back in the mid 90's i believe.

[@gregobrien3298]

I would love to see a meeting between Dorn and Sanga - Dorn was absolutely disgusted with the ninth legion during the early years of the great crusade before Sanga was re-united with them, would be interesting to see if Dorns attitude towards them changed

[@Yusuf-fs4fn]

This content makes my off time so much better. Much love from the Air Force!

[@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks]

usaf?

[@Yusuf-fs4fn]

@@mgtowdadKZbinSucksCoxks Yes!

[@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks]

@@Yusuf-fs4fn Thanks for your service!

[@Yusuf-fs4fn]

@@mgtowdadKZbinSucksCoxks Most military members don't do much. Thank the medics and front line troops. I just repair engines.

[@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks]

@@Yusuf-fs4fn every cog keeps the machine running. Especially those you never see cogging away. You are the machine. Just a different piece.

[@atsukunisumeragi1967]

Sanguinius: "Just between you and me, I am not really an Angel." Khagan : "Am I to understand that you really have no message from our Sire nor from Malcador ?"

[@-----Alcatraz------]

Is there a story about Vulkan and Sanguinius meeting for the first time?

[@wolflordrho]

Not yet. Man that would be awesome!

[@iloveplayingpr]

WE WANT MORE PRIMARCHS INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER!!!

[@HollowHeart-hh9xq]

Lovely read and always love Horus Heresy stuff, we need much more of these two I agree and possibly of Khan and Magnus, It's said the Khan and the Crimson King got along well I would love to see more of the two when the option arises :)

[@churchofnope]

Sanguinius and Horus are two sides of the same Coin. The Angel, who is the good looking Mutant, never liked to stand in the focus while horus was the only Primarch who visualy had nothing special about him but his dominating aura und sheer will to do something about anything - no matter the cost - while standing in the centre of everything. Its the same with Robeard Grilloman/Lorgar and Dorn/Perturabo. I really like Sanguinius, but he is too passive imho.

[@Michael.Virtus]

"Watch your brother, for his sin of heresy is your sin of tolerance" - Macharians, 16.4

[@patray860]

I loved how he handled the Khan. Their interactions in the siege novels are great as well. I’d really like to see you compare and contrast this meeting when they met again to defend Terra

[@alfiemoloney1163]

I'm pretty sure konrad would be a small bit more anti-social than jag'hatai

[@worldeater2414]

This book was great and the mention of other Primarch talking together later was amazing! I throughly enjoyed the book, and am delighted that you and others did as well.

[@7503funkymonkey]

You raised a comment about Horus's charisma as compared to Sanguinius's charisma. I think they are completely different types of charisma. Horus has the charisma of a commander and a leader. There are some people who you want to follow, because they are able to convince you of the righteousness or strength of their cause. It's the type of charisma the makes you feel privileged to join in, to be a part of the leader's quest to make his own moment in history. Horus's charisma is the ability to unite independent wills and forge them together into a single force capable of great action. At the same time, it's the same type of charisma that can reflect the will of those it affects and makes people want to invest their personal hopes and dreams into those of the leader, voluntarily aligning them with his (or hers). That's the magic of this type of charisma - at its simplest, it makes people want to be a part of something bigger than themselves. Sanguinius, in my opinion, has the charisma of a true friend, a peer, or a brother - a Samwise Gamgee. There is a distinct lack of ambition in it, though that is not a bad thing. It gives fraternity. While there may be disagreements between the charismatic and the people under his influence, at the end of the day, there is stability, support, and reliability. There is no pressure to keep up with a movement or an ideal at the risk of being left behind or betrayed. Rather, there is a feeling of comfort and understanding where people can just be themselves (within the context of peers). That is not to say it is a soft or weak charisma compared to Horus's leader-type charisma. After all, people can be roused to terrible anger in the defense of their friends and loved ones, and it's something we see in the way Sanguinius fights for his sons at Signus and seems to always has their wellbeing in mind. I think for a lack of a better word, Sanguinius's charisma is the feeling of home and belonging. Personally, I still believe Horus's charisma, as it is described to us (though not always shown), is the charisma that a Warmaster needs. If that is something he cultivated by virtue of being the Firstfound and spending the most time with the Emperor, then perhaps Sanguinius could have cultivated it as well, had he been found first. I think, though, that Horus's charisma is what we was made for and would have been Warmaster regardless.

[@Saint_Sin]

I do like this take on Sanguinius. One of my biggest gripes is how focused people are on the Angelic aspects of Sanguinius (al la him being put in a leotard on the siege of Terra book and it being aplauded). People are fast to forget he was head of the Emperors honour guard because he was an absolute monster in melee. The very same reason so many primarchs claim they could not best him in single combat. His very sons reflecting this in the Red Thirst that Sanguinus himself suffered from. This writer may be able to capture that but he would have to be able to get the fury and savage nature contrasted correctly against his personality while out of combat.

[@falsehero2001]

Jaghatai Khan (honored be His name) meets the Emperor's Glorious Hawk Boy.

[@Greatkingrat88]

You should do another excerpt from "Warhawk", the exchange at the start between Malcador and Jaghatai, where the Khan harshly criticizes the lie the imperium is built on. It really shows how different he is from the other primarchs, and it also shows the flaws of the imperium of man even at its height.

[@wolflordrho]

It’s a great novel from start to finish!

[@Greatkingrat88]

@@wolflordrho It's not nearly as good as Scars/Path of Heaven, but it does a great job showing the Khan's character. Looking forward to more of the scars during the upcoming siege of terra books!

[@Pragabond]

It was 100% because he was talking to the angel. I mean it being Sanguinius is reason to think that by itself. But the line about how it felt like it was being pulled out of him definitely makes me feel like he was getting caught up in Sanguinius'.....Sanginiusness. It was honestly actually pretty wholesome. Glad to see Jaghatai getting more love

[@AshtonCoolman]

I appreciate you working in Jaghatai Khan! I think he's one of the most interesting Primarchs, along with Corax as well.

[@coenbaan1874]

The eagle and the hawk: unlikely allies that bond through love of life.

[@leeroyjames7463]

Oh yes! Sanguinius won, my blood angels army are feeling thirsty. I hope you review the bit in Titandeath where Sanguinius takes out Axis Mundi, the whole while screaming "I DO NOT DIE HERE TODAY!" - Man that scene gave me serious goosebumps.

[@gorthsleeperofwomen900]

Mustache man meets bird man, a better title

[@GilangRamadhan-rj5hx]

Sometimes, when i see Primarch Jaghatai Khan Picture, his face kinda like Khal Drogo 😅👍

[@derekrecollet8451]

Jaghatai Khan and the Lion Meet : Utter Silence, Lol

[@lolbots686]

as dante falls,his suffering, hopefully over,he sees,the 2nd time, sanguinius, the great angel looked at the commander "rest dante,rest. your suffering is over please...allow me to take your stead..." dante cryed,for the 1st time in thousands of years,his suffering ended,his rest gained,he cried tears of endless bliss "thank you..." as the black legion comes a blast of light teared through,dantes helmet was gone,his jump pack as well,dante was now dead but the person in his place,was a man of divine beauty,bearing wings of white and read as if those of a pheonix. the great angel sanguinis,reborn like the pheonix. the black legion, felt true,primal fear. the great angel has come. with a motion, sanguinis would hold dantes axe as he looked to the black legion,and spoke "so.... what remains of horus is here....i see." armed with Dante's axe he would ready it "my sons....its time to end this grin buisness." the sons of the angel would shatter the black legion within hours,after this,mephiston,chief libarian,the lord of death looked in reverence "my lord....you returned...how?" sanguinius gave a look of mercy and understanding "i know not how i am made flesh again my son,but i know this,abbadon has met hid end and his soul now rests,if it could." many of the blood angels bowed before the reborn angel,for his return would herald great things "there is no need to bow my sons. for we have much to do in order to restore our home in order." elsewhere upon the macragges honor,corvus and guilaman are discussing "so thats whats happened since ive changed lorgar." "indeed,it sickens me,but its not that some of it had helped,but i am glad your back with us brother-" a astropath comes in, guilaman is surprised "ah astropath,what message is it?" the astropath bent to his knees in reverance with tears "oh my lord,i recieved word from baal,the great angel has been reborn! he has risen again! but...sadly commander dante is dead.." guilaman and corvus were surprised at this,the angel was reborn? how? but guilaman would speak 1st "if this is true tell the blood angels that myself and corvus are coming,it is time to see if our brother...has truely returned." corvus nodded,even sheding a small tear for a brief minute to be continued....

[@enriqueescandon8]

Sanguinius and the Khan are some of my favorite primarchs. In my opinion the rebellion was orchestrated by the emperor but didn’t expect chaos to take such a big part in it. That being said the fact that Sanguinius isn’t wasmaster is proof of that. I think the reason why we keep getting glimpses of Sanguinius sharing bonds with his fellow Primarchs is to show us that Horus being made war master was to start the rebellion. To believe the space marines were NOT going to be eradicated like the Thunder Warriors is naive.

[@Osmond_Wrought]

If there's one primarch I want t see Sanguinius with it would be Corvus Corax. The dichotomy of the two is so interesting to me. Actually, if there's no stort story already, I'll write it myself.

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Sanguinius is the Emptah's heart and Charism. Everyone loves sanguinius.

[@GentlemanBystander]

To address why Horus and not Sanguinius has to be answered. Sanguinius was a being that provoked awe and adoration in those who encountered him. Horus was all things to all people, his charisma was that anyone could come to feel comfortable around him. The thing Horus had in abundance was he didn't seem so far separated from the species as the other Primarchs were.

[@sterasigma8734]

The most fabulous Primarch meets the Primarch who becomes one with the Speed Force, that would be an interesting picture: On one side you have an angelic, incredibly beautiful prince who radiates elegance and lethal power, while on the other you have a scarred, ruggedly handsome rider who radiates wild, raw power and awkwardness

[@peterc3262]

I voted for Jaghatai so I'm really pleased he was on the first day of Sanguinius week. Well played!

[@Scott_the_Celt]

Hopefully there's some dialog between Sanguinius and Vulkan. If love to listen to that

[@dac314]

Something you kinda gloss over is what Sanguinius is talking about: how he's basically recruiting him to become a vocal proponent of the Librarius. He's saying "hey, if you like and respect your Stormseers, speak up about it, and make friends with Magnus and your other pro-Psyker brothers. Let's be friends and not have to chase your ass across the stars for a chat and a cup of wine" And Jaghatai is like, "whoa bro don't tell me what to do" but at the same time, he's totally charmed by the Angel.

[@Uploaded1995]

I'm still trying to decide on who my favourite Primarch is, Sanguinius is a strong candidate but I'm still trying to identify with myself if that's because of his general appeal of being likeable and near flawless save for his rage once properly infuriated or if there's something more specific I identify with, because he's quite a popular one from what I can tell.

[@jackfrost2978]

The hardcore love for Sanguinius is not about him being friendly of pretty. It's about his true faith and belief in humanity. It's the contrast and contradiction of him being pretty and friendly and yet truly terrifying in battle. Very few if any of the primarchs before the heresy would have thought they had much chance of beating Sanguinius because of his Rage and his use of his psychic abilities to augment himself in a fight. During the invasion of Terra. Sanguinius fought in most of the worst fights. When not fighting, he consoled the injured and inspired the defenders in both speech and action. When he fought Horus, he had know for a long time that he would die. He didn't complain or have self pity. He carried out his duty. The true love for Sanguinius is that his is a contradiction in the best of ways and very few could lived up to a fraction of his idealism if they where in his body.

[@Uploaded1995]

@@jackfrost2978 I appreciate that description, because I've noticed those elements too when you point them out, but when I hear people talk about him in general they mostly seem to only mention how great he is without specifying what makes them feel that way. It almost makes it come off like he's just infallible compared to all his brothers.

[@LordInter]

he is humanity personified, capable of love and hate, calm laughter and literally, the devils own fury. He is our best and our worst

[@jackfrost2978]

@@LordInter I don't think Sanguinius, represents our worst. His fury is a righteous fury. Not hatred in general. But, hatred directed at that which preys on humanity. The possible exception being the red thirst. But, it could be, that having the red thirst. Having a flaw that you are acutely aware of. Reinforces the commitment to humanity much more then the problem it causes.

[@jackfrost2978]

@@Uploaded1995 His character is amazing. He seems infallible to those looking at him. And yet, he is acutely aware of the scrutiny he receives from everyone. And, his role of being a roll model. The red thirst is almost like a limited flaw that mostly serves to enhance and push the Blood Angels. It makes Sanguinius and the Blood Angels more potent in combat and makes them more acutely sell aware of their own flaws outside of combat. This keeps them humble and focused. Death means the most, when it's the best of us that is lost. Sanguinius represented the best of humanity and the primarchs. Which makes his death, that much more impactful.

[@dominicomegon4714]

If The Khan was more well known. He would have been included in The Dauntless Few.

[@heatherordonez1490]

I shall miss riding my horse and feeling free....oh look a jet bike

[@WorgenGrrl]

I confess, I didn't vote for Sanguinius because I didn't know much about him. But now I am starting to see why the vast majority of subscribers voted for him. This is an impressive moment to start off with!

[@marvelouschester4104]

Open your hearts people. Sanguinius week has begun.

[@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks]

Remember. The quickest way to see what is in a person's heart is a Bolter round to the rib cage.

[@robertflynn4215]

The fact the khan thinks that the word beautiful is a cheap word to describe him. It really says alot about the angelic appearance of sanguinius.

[@independentconfederate6604]

Honestly looking at this picture the khan looks like a friend. I can’t explain it. And Sanguinius look like Adam from the Bible or a Greek god.

[@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ]

Meeting betwen chad Sanguinius and virgin Angron or chad supermodel Sanguinius and virgin tryhard Fulgrim

[@yarran3511]

I loved this Meeting! Funny thing is i wished a Weile ago that you would to this :D Papa Sang, The Khan and Curze are my favourite primarchs

[@thomasa8814]

Being a brother first and being able to listen and reach out and relate. I think we all need a sanguinius

[@clintonguess3341]

I dont think the Kahn looking away first was a test of wills. Maybe that's what the angel thought of it but when has the Khan ever cared for what he was perceived as or what others thought of him. I think the Kahn saw what he needed, found the measure of the angel and that was all he needed or wanted from the meeting. Well done again, glad you started with this for the primarch week.

[@silversurfer8818]

Why is this video 1 hour too short

[@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis]

Oh damn a primarch meeting your starting strong there Rho

[@Captain_Idaho]

Anti-social doesn't mean reclusive or socially reticent but rather destructive and disruptive. Think Angron or Curze.

[@eyeofgnosis558]

I want to see Sanguinius meet Fulgrim for the first time :)

[@pedropierre9594]

Sanguinius reminds me of Griffith from Berserk without the hunger for absolute power

[@ironduke5058]

That's Fulgrim

[@pedropierre9594]

@@ironduke5058nah Fulgrim is too boastful, Griffith is ambitious not boastful once ge ascends to godhood he has the tight to boast but human Griffith had a noble appearance and a darkness inside like Sanguinius

[@secondarytrollaccount]

Sanguinius Fulgrim wants to be him. Roboute wants him to lead secundus.

[@Its_Cannon]

How to piss off the imperium as a whole: shit talk Sanguinius, shit talk Vulkan, shit talk the emperor.

[@potatolord8444]

It been a little while since I left a comment but I agree full about more first meeting, particularly between The Angel and The Death Lord. I mean come on that must have been a interesting meeting on one side you have Sanguinius the guy who is literally called The Angel because of everything thing he is. On the other sits Mortarion the personification of death, decay and missary. What an interesting meeting it must have been. Did they get along? Ever fight together. I'm dieing to know there such opposites in so much. Also I'd love to see him talking to the ever friendly Perturabo. When I first read this I pictured as super passive aggressive conversation about how best to breach the target between Sanguinius and Perturabo. It just made me laugh Perturabo says one thing Sanguinius politely shoots it down, Sanguinius make a suggestion Perturabo shoot it down. And vise versa. For hours on end. I dont know like I said it just made me laugh. Also as always keep up the good work. Always good to see stuff from the Honorable Wolf Lord Rho.

[@daweimer71]

1. Chris Wraight is one of BL's very best authors. I'm not surprised with how well he did this scene. He masters the Khan and his sons very well too. The Khan is one of the best Primarchs IMO in his attitude, demeanor, and the values he passes to his legion. It shows in all the BL material that he's in. Sanguinus? Well .... he's Sanguinius, the best of them, but not in a haughty or arrogant way, he's just the best of them. He would have been a better warmaster in many ways different than Horus, he still had several weaknesses though, they come up in Fear To Tread. By the time you get to the Siege of Terra series, its evident that the relationship between Sanguinius and the Khan is a very good one. Both knowing well of each other and very respectful of each other.

[@Kareszkoma]

Seeing what and how Sanguinius was, I can't imagine the pain of his death. He was an angel. He was serene. He was the image of beauty and kindness. He was the kindest, most understanding, most emphatetic. He was the people of people. He was the calm of the storm. He was the big brother and listener.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

This is open to anyone who has an opinion on the matter. What actors would make a good fit to portray Sanguinius and Jaghatai Khan in live action? I'm thinking Chris Hemsworth for Sanguinius and Jason Momoa for Jaghatai Khan.

[@Gridia444]

Jason Momoa is a no brainer for Jaghatai. But, Chris is too rugged to be Sanguinius. I'd vote either Tom Hiddleston or Henry Cavill. Side note, though.. Rogal Dorn - Gerard Butler Roboute Guilliman - Michael Fassbender/Daniel Craig Leman Russ - Chris Hemsworth/Ewan McGregor Corvus Corax - Matthew McConaughey/Mads Mikkelsen Vulkan - Dwayne Johnson (THE ONLY CHOICE IF YOU KNOW VULKAN) Lion El'Johnson - Hugh Jackman/Joe Manganiello

[@glorilol9546]

Chris hemsworth look more like The lion or Leman russ.

[@ericmiller254]

Live action 40k would require a star wars level budget. Even before you add in star actors. if they did it hopefully they would do it with no names and just dump the money into the set pieces, cuz they'd need it I'm sure Def some one who doesn't have a massive nose. Angels shouldn't have shnoz's like in the picture for the video. Doesn't look like much of an angel lol

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@Gridia444Impressive. You put a lot of thought into this. How about Mads Mickleson be great for Mortarion. Benedict Cumberbatch for Lorgar Dave Batista for Angron Josh Brolin for Horus Lupercal Vin Diesel for Perterabo, Nikoli Coster Waldau for Fulgrim? I'm not sure who'd work foe Alpharius/Omegon Ferris Manus, or Magnus the Red,

[@Gridia444]

Mike Vasquez I primarily covered the loyalists (BA player/collector) but I was curious about the rest. Brolin as Horus is godly. I actually like Tom Hardy for Mortarion. Vin for Perterabo, Batista for Angron, and Ole Jaimie Lannister for Fulgrim is nice. Magnus would be interesting, but I think Jason Isaacs would do alright. Ferrus.. I think Brolin would also be good here. And if that swapped, I’d do Mark Strong for Horus. Alpharius/Omegon.. dunno. For Konrad.. I’d have to go with Lee Pace.

[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

The khan doesn't have an ego and he has no tolerance for ego sanguineous came to him without ego so I think he was more willing to explain himself to sanguineous then he would a fulgrim or a Perchrabo v I can also see him being more willing to explain himself to vulkan I can see the khan and vulkan along pretty well because even though both their personalities are different and neither one too high of a value on ego and can be relatively laid-back if the occasion calls for it