Sarum Mass at the Church of St. John the Evangelist, an Anglo-Catholic church in Montreal. September 8, 2022
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@duaneadams52108 ай бұрын
I had the beautiful honor to have attended a Sung Sarum High Mass years ago and I'll never forget it. It was most beautiful.
@giovanniserafino1731 Жыл бұрын
It is my understanding, that the ancient Catholic Sarum Rite was celebrated in Latin and not in English . Nor do I believe that women “bishops” were ever commemorated. Obviously, this is a protestant worship service and not the Sarum Rite of Catholic Mass.
@willherondale48311 ай бұрын
This is aCATHOLIC worship, just not a ROMAN one.
@giovanniserafino173111 ай бұрын
@@willherondale483 If the worship is not in communion with Rome, it is not Catholic worship ,and this particular case it is not only schismatic and heretical, but” absolutely null and utterly void!”
@willherondale48311 ай бұрын
@@giovanniserafino1731 I will pray for the Holy Spirit to enlighten you more. Obviously, your zeal for the Roman faith blinds you to the active grace of God at work outside the perimeters of the Roman Church.
@giovanniserafino173111 ай бұрын
@@willherondale483 The active grace of God can work outside the Catholic Church through the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. He is, however, the Spirit of Truth and unity ,and not the Spirit of doctrinal confusion ,error, heresy, schism and invalid sacraments which your sect exemplifies. These are the works of another “spirit “ which is not holy, but diabolical, and we can be assured the active grace of God has nothing to do with such abominations . Concerning your prayer for me, I will only respond with the story of an English Catholic martyr about to be hung, drawn and quartered when asked by a protestant heretic minister if he could pray with him. His response was, “ Sir, I will not answer Amen to your prayer, and I ask you not to answer Amen to mine!” May the active grace of God work in you to reject heresy and schism and come into the fullness of truth that can only be found in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ 2 thousand years ago on the Rock of Peter!
@willx935211 ай бұрын
@@giovanniserafino1731Why do you bother even commenting? The Sarum Mass is illegal in the Roman Church - it was outlawed by the Council of Trent.
@andrewtexley4485 ай бұрын
Beautiful liturgy! I think a lot of the criticism seems to be that people don’t recognize this as a low mass, correct?
@1906rah Жыл бұрын
Lovely mass. Thank you. Where this ligurgy found? It does not look like the Anglican BCP
@rogercarroll25518 ай бұрын
It's not.
@pancracedewinter75817 ай бұрын
It is the traditional latin mass. The mass of the Catholic church all over the world before 1970. This parish in Paris kept the old latin rite.
@puremercury6 ай бұрын
@pancracedewinter7581 Not exactly. It is a slightly updated version of the Use of Sarum, a Western Catholic rite developed at Salisbury, UK in Late Medieval times. It is pretty close to the Roman Rite, but takes elements from other sources. There were several Western rites back then (Gallican Rites, Mozarabic, etc.).
@missacustodio2 ай бұрын
@@pancracedewinter7581 You are wrong. It is not the Traditional Latin Mass but a mockery of the True Sarum Usage. It isn’t Catholic, either.
@missacustodio2 ай бұрын
@Peppaatemypeppah That doesn’t make this “Sarum” Usage correct.
@rubensilva9656 Жыл бұрын
Where do I can find a guide to follow?
@thomasbate9004 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if this will be helpful, but it might be. justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/Sarum/English.htm
@jameszebedee37096 ай бұрын
The prayers at the foot of the altar were said in the sacristy in the Sarum Rite, and never at the altar. What are they even doing in this video? 😒
@linovieirapacheco-ecosdoca55665 ай бұрын
Só ao senhor teu Deus adorarás e só a ele farás culto.
@SarumChoirmaster Жыл бұрын
The Sarum Mass / Liturgy is the ancient rite in and from England. It is actually older than the Roman Tridentine Rite and all the Books of Common Prayer and other rites are based on the Sarum Rite. The Sarum Rite is very much compatible with the Eastern Orthodox Rites before the Great Scheme occurred between the East and the West. This presentation in this video is the low mass. A high mass would all be sung like in Orthodox Churches and would be very very much more ornate with many more acolytes and ministers and a full choir.
@Mikemanify Жыл бұрын
The Tridentine Mass goes way back to the Early Church, so it's not correct to say that the Sarum is older. The Sarum Rite is the Roman Rite as it was used in Sarum or Salisbury. The Tridentine Mass, as it is commonly called, is the venerable Rite of St Gregory. It was codified at Trent, hence it is known as the "Tridentine" Rite. but it is much much older.
@dylanrunner2001 Жыл бұрын
The liturgy was in greek for the first three centuries, not latin
@SarumChoirmaster Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct! @@dylanrunner2001
@SarumChoirmaster Жыл бұрын
The Sarum Rite IS slightly older than the Roman Rite and was used by the Roman Church along with other rites in codifying the Roman Rite. @@Mikemanify
@giovanniserafino1731 Жыл бұрын
@@SarumChoirmaster The Sarum “rite” of Mass , properly understood, was the ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Mass with local adaptations. Liturgically, it would be better styled the Sarum usage of the Roman Rite of Mass. The Sarum usage of Catholic Mass ended in the 16th century when the “ protestant reformed religion establish by law“ suppressed the Catholic Mass and implemented the “Book of Common Prayer.” Attempts by Anglicans to re-create the Catholic Sarum usage of Mass with present day protestant adaptations and innovations is not authentic and renders the “Mass” an exercise in futility, and gratefully like all Anglican services is “ absolutely null and utterly void.”
@b-a-boon5 ай бұрын
the bread comes free of charge here
@Frcherub11 ай бұрын
You are right. This is a curious take on the Sarum rite.
@stephenfrancismoran67297 ай бұрын
It is also my understanding that the use of the word mass, and attendance at mass, practice of the catholic faith, being a catholic priest was an act of treason for about 234 years. It might follow a rite similar to the ancient catholic rite but it is not a mass. Sorry😢
@jin6715 Жыл бұрын
Is the church of st john the evangelist under the ordinariate of the chair of st peter
@lockerby Жыл бұрын
No. It is under the Anglican Bishop of Montréal, Mary Irwin-Gibson.
@charmainelamont20207 ай бұрын
@@lockerby A female bishop? God preserve us!
@rogeryoung51805 ай бұрын
@@charmainelamont2020 She is a good bishop. God has preserved us. And we don't need sexist bigotry.
@user-er9zc8ni1sАй бұрын
@@rogeryoung5180 women cant be priests. period,.
@davidstankiewicz20496 ай бұрын
Darn, that was said far too fast!
@matthewpayton Жыл бұрын
B.C.P
@rogercarroll25518 ай бұрын
This is not Sarum.
@stephanottawa789011 ай бұрын
These people are making a lot of assumptions or possible errors. I hardly know where to begin. Firstly, the entire service accept for a sermon if there was one, would have been in Latin as someone else already noted. Most of the prayers that are here said by the congregation would not have been said by anyone accept the priest and the server and probably in a way that it would be hardly heard over the sung chant. Also the prayers would not have been in the forms used. For instance, the Hail Mary did not have the ending that it does today until about the 15th century. This would also be the case for the ending of the Our Father which was used in some places in the Far East, but not in the Latin West. Possibly I should stop here as it is all too disappointing.
@tradicional.sintomatico3 ай бұрын
This isn’t the Sarum Rite, it’s a deformed ceremony closed to the Paul VI’s rite!
@Piter_Play9 ай бұрын
How You can be Catholic Church when you are Anglican and do not recognise the Pope? Change your name, or come back to union with Pope via Ordinariate for Anglicans.
@stevevince96809 ай бұрын
We believe that there is one holy catholic and apostolic church, and that the Anglican and Roman churches are both part of it.
@BKT_049 ай бұрын
@@stevevince9680no the Anglican Church is a mockery of a church. Women and ordinations? LGBTQ? You are not Catholic in any shape, way, or form. Return to the true church
@christopherpavesi72459 ай бұрын
Anglicans through schism and heresy have lost their Apostolic succession. They have no valid bishops or priests.
@stevevince96809 ай бұрын
@@christopherpavesi7245 Where's the "apostolic succession" in the New Testament?
@coco_sloth9 ай бұрын
Becausse the true leader of the church is Jesus Christ not some elderly bloke who touches kids!
@kyrieeleison12437 ай бұрын
This is a mockery of true worship. An invalid Mass "offered" by a layman, commemorating lay people that pose as bishops, done in the vulgar language. This is NOT the Sarum nor is it Catholic in the slightest.
@rogeryoung51805 ай бұрын
This post seems to have attracted bigots
@linovieirapacheco-ecosdoca55665 ай бұрын
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@ThomasOutt6 ай бұрын
Should be "Holy Spirit."
@LeviSmail3 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with Holy Ghost
@robinsonrex12802 ай бұрын
Anglicans still use " Holy Ghost". This is a branch of the Anglican church.
@user-wq4um2hf5e9 ай бұрын
REPENT. And be converted. Lemay
@ernestbowen405410 ай бұрын
Why is he facing the wrong way?
@theromanbaron10 ай бұрын
the church faced this way for 2000 years. the Orthodox also face the same way. the mass isnt about you
@CommandoBG28389 ай бұрын
@theromanbaron don't be too harsh he just never learned about the ancient liturgies
@willmears11119 ай бұрын
It isn't the wrong way, it's the way of 2,000 years.