Sasaya Orochi Ascendant Budget Big Mana Commander Deck Tech

[@BiomeWalker]

I have had a Sasaya deck for some time now, I once managed to have 40 40/40 Hydras at one point. I won that game.

[@humanwreckage4563]

Fuckin hope you won that game jfc nice

[@xChikyx]

i have a sasaya deck too... It's super normal for me to have over 1000 mana I think my record (besides infinite mana) has been like 13K mana in a turn hahahah

[@fave525]

I played Omnath deck once against my boyfriend and friend, I had like 50 50/50 Hydras, then during my bf's turn she played Naya's charm, tapped all my creatures and my bf killed me, which was not very nice

[@pickles632]

i had 104 104 104’s that did 11,000 damage. i was against a life gain player that thought he was smart HAHAAA

[@AlephSharp]

Current record with my Sasaya Commander deck is well over 1 quadrillion power with Heroes Bane. It was Fun.

[@YT747]

LOL I actually built this deck a few weeks ago. Sasaya is a real hidden gem in mono-green. Some of my favorite highlights from prior games: - Opponent casts a board-wipe and I use Kamahl, Fist of Krosa to animate all opponents' lands in response - Ramping into a 12+ lands, casting The Great Aurora, getting 10 lands back, and immediately flipping Sasaya - Patron of the Oorochi + Lightning Greaves + Temur Sabertooth = even more absurd amounts of green mana

[@paulgruner9644]

Evolution Charm is a 2 mana instant that tutors a basic land to your hand, But after Sasaya has flipped it can recall a creature from the graveyard or give a creature flying. So it's useful at any stage of the game. And it's cheap.

[@fearanarchy]

Yup. This is what I truly didn't need. I wanted a big mana deck and your build brought it home. Thanks. Minor changes, but bought it. Dropped Compass because none were cheap enough, the one that was disappeared out of my cart. Added The Great Aurora, but over 90% of this build was yours. Kept Nissa and Kamahl because they are ideed worth fitting. I may come back for Lifeblood Hydra. Thank you again. This truly is one of my favorite "fair" explosive decks.

[@lucsterluc7]

Saw you on command zone and been watching you ever since! Love your enthusiasm and great job on your videos here and on command zone!

[@JumboCommander]

Thank you! Been really loving working with Josh on the Command Zone. A cohost really helps dive deeper into a lot of topics.

[@Small_Panda]

A few recommendations I know this a budget deck so cards like sylvan library are out but, you are still missing some really key cards to this deck. Mainly this deck is nearly nonfunctional without infinite hand size. Having 7 lands in your hand implies that at best you might have 1-3 nonland cards when you are finally able to flip this commander, if your maxium hand size is 7. Thus this deck more than any other deck needs cards like Praetor's Counsel currently around 3.50, Library of Leng 1 dollar to 1.50, spellbook less than 1 dollar. Also cards like mind's eye currently running around 2 dollars are amazing for this deck mainly as a lot of the time before you flip your commander you are just passing your turn as you have almost all land's in hand. So card's like mind's eye are amazing as they both give you something to do with your free mana but also helps propel you towards flipping your commander and having something to do afterward. Not to mention one of the best cards to add to think deck is sands of delirium, when you are able to generate upwards of 100 mana very easily it becomes an insta mill/kill card. Plus if you are ever able to upgrade it with seedborn muse it becomes a near auto win as mill every player during their upkeep. Lastly I would recommend playing Centaur Glade over one of the other big mana pay offs that is a creature. Mainly as enchantments are usually harder to kill this is an easily repeatable ability and makes 3/3 for 4 instead of something like jade mage who easily dies and makes 1/1 for 3. If anything though I would ditch Hero's bane first their are just way to many better hydra's and pay offs as it lacks trample so no mater how big he is a single 1/1 is just as good as he is. I tried to keep my recommendations still in a budget range.

[@m-hcv]

Hey I'm trying to build Sasaya and it sounds like you have a lot of experience. Do you have a decklist you can share?

[@azerim2039]

I know that it's 15$ but this deck needs Helix Pinnacle. It's just too hilarious.

[@JumboCommander]

Yeah! I should have mentioned it but it needed to be cut cause of the price. I agree though HELIX PINNACLE!

[@geekmp3]

holy crap, DJ. I made this deck after watching your video here and played it for the first time last night. Even after my table of opponents disrupted me flipping Sasaya a few times I ended up with a turn of 45 45/45s and a Genesys Hydra for 31 ALL IN THE SAME TURN. It was amazing. So much fun to play. I am definitely doing to add Akroma's Memorial and Concordant Crossroads to make this an insane deck of fun.

[@chromark7552]

I can't believe how funny this is. I LITERALLY just bought my Sasaya deck, and when I come back home, boom, a video about Sasaya XD Thanks for the ideas, I needed other suggestions for it

[@nicholassalamone770]

Finally I'm off work and I can relax and listen to DJs honey voice describe wicked cool commander things.

[@briansfattofitjourney2805]

Love it! Been subscribed for awhile, now a Patreon!

[@JumboCommander]

Thank you! Glad to have you as part of the team.

[@AlexMonas]

What an awesome Idea, DJ. Love this budget build. Thanks for naming notable upgrades.

[@theheavee]

I clicked on this video hoping to see Storm Cauldron. THANK YOU!!! I put it in my Azusa deck, and it is OP. I actually played it (SC) today in a pod and got the win. The only opponent remaining had enough mana to recast Zacama, but I hit 'em with the Cauldron. GG's.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

Any update on when the Kestia, the cultivator deck tech comes out? I remember in the video you mentioned you would be creating a separate video for her and I've been really looking forward to it

[@kristbg]

That's my monogreen deck! Sasaya gets VERY silly when you get to flip it.

[@SouixWarrior01]

I have a friend that runs this commander. It's a super fun deck and it's bonkers once it gets rolling

[@cablebeck4940]

Don't know if it's really feasible or not, but I'd really love to see a video of how you create a deck. Like the process you go through and all that. The theory crafting is one of my favorite parts of magic, and I actually had a friend ask me to show him the kinda stuff I normally do. Figured a video like that could be helpful for many players, new and old.

[@bushidoman96]

I love this deck idea, and I think I'll build it. Thanks for sharing this. I really enjoy all your deck techs.

[@Manndar]

As per usual, I see your deck techs and get inspired. And budget too!

[@ChillyJack]

Holy shit, someone actually used the word "exponentially" correctly!

[@rdbaron102]

Horn of Greed and Ghost Town, classic.

[@aarongrant5367]

Not sure if it is still budget, but 'Life and Limb' with 'Sporemound' does a lot of what this deck wants to do in late game.

[@TheRubsi]

This deck is so sweet, and we recently got dryad greenseeker which seems like a perfect upgrade.

[@jaysherman9138]

I would totally include a Gaea's Blessing so you don't have to count the size of your library when you Genesis Wave :P (Also, first comment so: amazing channel, I want to start brewing and playing commander just because of it)

[@JumboCommander]

That second comment is exactly why I make videos. Thank you. You've energized me!

[@jaysherman9138]

Thanks to you!

[@davidjcritser]

Lemme get this straight. Once flipped each forest taps for the amount of forest that I have on the field right? For instance if I tap a forest and I have 10 forest , I have 10 mana each forest?

[@JumboCommander]

YAAAS!!!!!!! So ... so, so so,so much mana. Fun huh?!?!

[@like17badgers]

yeah, it's pretty bonkers fast, Jeremy played her a while back on cmdr VS here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWm2q4mggq19Y9U

[@icetea214]

nope with 10 forests you get 90 mana

[@xackwithanx5783]

@@icetea214 Sasaya's ability says when a land is tapped for mana add an ADDITIONAL amount... so you're still getting the original mana. 10 forests? Each one taps for 1+9 additional... so 10. Stop attempting to short change others mana production. 10 forests? 100 mana.

[@hoppeltrottel7484]

My gosh, I never noticed how powerful Sasaya is. ô.O And so many ways to go with her! - Stuff the deck with your favorite fatties (Eldrazi?) and enough card draw (e.g. Tower of Fortunes). Stompy time! Such a list can even be build on the tightest budget! - How about alternative win conditions? Helix Pinnacle has already been mentioned, but nobody will expect a Whetstone + Doubling Cube + Gaea's Blessing combo. This should even work with Genesis Wave! - Or you fill the deck with the most inefficient jank and just have fun. Humiliate your friends by killing them with Magma Mine + Salvaging Station! Love your content DJ, keep it up! =)

[@enjaded7222]

As long as the mono-white fun police isn’t there to ruin the day, this deck is great.

[@ichigoulquiorra128]

i had a Sasaya deck in the past too, with crazy wincons like hellix pinnacle, but in the end, it felt a little dumb, because you did practically nothing but taking lands out of your deck until you manage to flip Sasaya and win the game in that same turn or the next. I finally decided to switch Sasaya with another Kamigawa legend, Azusa, and the deck became more interactive and fun overall. I´m not saying Sasaya is a bad commander at all, it can make HUGE amounts of mana really fast, but it felt kinda linear and boring to play the deck several times. Juat my opinion, great video anyways, DJ, love your content

[@haroldfuqua4045]

I have a rosheen commander just like this, so I definitely might want to run this!

[@mikegibb5082]

I was looking for win conditions in my tatyovah deck...and you just gave me all of them. Reliably having 20-25 mana on turn 15...and now all of them are elemental creatures and I now I have 50 damage...and then beastmasters ascension...oh man

[@fabianbock5691]

Great video. First, I frowned upon this commander, thinking "neat, but lands don't win the game"... For everyone planning on building this deck: you should absolutely include defensive options like Constant Mists, Heroic Intervention, Blossoming Defense etc. It's not fun if your game plan relies on your commander doing its thing - but getting picked off every time. People play tons of removal and wipes.

[@quanjano382]

i made a sasaya deck for $15, it’s really bad, but you feed off of others pity and sometimes have a really explosive turn and it has more than payed for its self in fun, maybe not wins, but fun for sure

[@JumboCommander]

I think you can get to be that cheap for sure. Do you think my $60 version will be a little more competitive?

[@Small_Panda]

My build is extremely competitive just also very hit or miss, and mine cost's right near the same prize point. I posted a in-depth comment on ways you could improve the deck. Without adding much at all to the price, and to be completely up front about the deck, you would never know how important certain mechanics are to this kind of deck till you play it a ton. I have probably played this deck more than all my other deck's just because I like how silly it can be at times. Lastly great content and keep up the amazing deck techs.

[@Small_Panda]

This is a version I made for mtgo it's IRL price is extremely high due to snow lands and like 3 other cards which can easily be changed out. My IRL deck is much cheapier as it doesn't include these cards but mtgo their are like 1 cent decks.tcgplayer.com/magic/commander/spilt-milk/sasaya-edh/1336907

[@redemption9148]

I watched Jeremy Noell use this guy. Insaaaaane how fast he pulled this puppy off. Shame he didn’t get any big stompy fellas to clean up.

[@dylanmiller1140]

The god damn lick in the music

[@kylesavage4525]

Wow what a weird card...i never knew it even existed. I can't help but wonder who even came up with it. I mean there is no way for it to have been useful in the Kamigawa standard or Modern or any other format for that matter. And commander was not a thing back then if i recall correctly. Tons of people must have been super disappointed to see this as their rare from boosters. Now as far as the deck goes i find it hilarious, creative, fun and unpredictable (let's be honest here none would expect to see such a deck). Ofc casting Nantuko Cultivator and dumping all your lands is a huge risk cause an enchantment removal will set u back quite a few turns to manage to re-flip your commander. At least u will have drawn several cards so there is that. You did say that at turn 7 u can flip Sasaya but how reliably does that happen? I see there are plenty of cards to get lands on hand but does that happen often?

[@adderall3676]

You should make a playlist on your channel for budget deck techs. they can be hard to find and it would be useful if you had one.

[@christinabutterfield1801]

appreciate the budget builds

[@seanedgar164]

Man I do love a good lands deck... 10/10 selling me on this commander

[@Mundane05]

That's always chafed my willy... You don't "flip" those cards, you turn them upside down.

[@matthumphries4208]

Could we get a non budget version of this deck please.

[@vazp3]

6:38 besides Yavimaya Elder is bugged IRL and the card you draw is ALWAYS a land heh

[@brianokafor9748]

See a new jumbo commander video Me:mehhhh *Looks at the title* "Sasaya budget EDH" *Rushes toward my laptop* Me: *BUYING ALL THESE CARDS RIGHT NOW*

[@JumboCommander]

I know it's a good list when I buy one for myself. I'm going to play it a little and tune it up and then give it away to Patreon.

[@PlutoDarknight]

On a side note, Patron of the Orochi (on flavor too) to untap all your Forests and make EVEN MORE MANA

[@dude37361]

awesome i just built a sasaya deck a couple weeks ago

[@oom-3262]

wait a second. could this deck trigger... Could it trigger... the most mana intensive hability ever made... of... *spawnsire of ulamog* ? *starts to throw my colorless eldrazi collection into the game*

[@jacobwestfahl1510]

Yes, my friend actually did that

[@oom-3262]

@@jacobwestfahl1510 It must have been glorious.

[@jacobwestfahl1510]

@@oom-3262 it was something I've never seen before I'll tell you that much

[@TheBalogna7]

This deck needs more Jolrael, Empress of Beasts (in place of Embodiment of Insight) and Elderscale Wurm (for your Squall Line win-con), but I love it!

[@JumboCommander]

Solid suggestions. I do like the haste Embodiment of Insight provides so it will let you kill off of a huge G-wave, but other than that the card is pretty meh, empress is way cooler in all other situations.

[@FlipitandRipit]

DJ. Love the deck. You've inspired me to build it myself. Just curious if you considered putting in Scouting Trek or Khalni Gem?

[@onyxtanuki]

Omnath, Locus of Mana might be a worthy include here

[@JumboCommander]

I love storing mana and a solid beater. Good stuff

[@icetea214]

21:37 actually with seven lands on the battlefield you get 42 mana because Sasaya says "add one mana of that type to your mana pool for each OTHER land you control with the same name.

[@NicholasWhitneyEnjoyer]

But the lands themselves tap for 1 mana each don't they?

[@NicholasWhitneyEnjoyer]

And why did u write almost the same comment 9 months prior to this one and ppl said the same thing about that?^^

[@xackwithanx5783]

10 Forests? 100 Mana.

[@pandville]

Opponent plays heartless summoning. You play kamahl. opponent cries.

[@Mcampbell1297]

Awsome deck great idea for making more budget decks it would be awsome if you did a sieres of decks like this. PS what this song? It says great days in the description but it's not

[@EricTheCleric93]

This...looks extremely fun.

[@2dendre]

My omnath deck is going going to get some lovely tweaks out of this...

[@daimonclarke]

I need to add Sasaya to my Kruphix deck

[@orgazmo686971]

Kinda want to do this commander now - though with most of the rest of the deck being different. Don't oversell 25 25/25's. In my Vorinclex deck I can do like 8 trillion damage per person on turn 4 (no infinite).

[@KAR1492]

Hey DJ I love the content, but would you consider posting the lists on both tcgplayer and tappedout? I get that you're sponsored by tcgplayer, which is sweet, but it's much easier to go through the deck list when it's on tappedout. Thanks for the content regardless!

[@parkerautry93]

@Jumbo Commander The music in the description still dosent Match the one that’s in the video, I think you’re posting the wrong link 😅

[@martinpowell2748]

I like patron of orochi for this deck untap all green creature and forest is great

[@IncendiarytheGreat]

I am disappointed you didn't include Boundless Realms. Could be super spicy with Cauldron.

[@IncendiarytheGreat]

Sorry, realized when I looked at it it was tapped for mana instead of come into play. My bad.

[@lucasenraraujo]

Cool vid, but it's pronounced sa-sa-ya, not sa-say-a. I tried putting her in my Damia EDH deck in the off chance I'd get her to flip, but she really requires you to build around her... and enchantments are not that safe if your playgroup plays enough removal hahaha.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Yeah that was my impression of her....like you manage to get seven lands in your hand and get her to flip, which seems tedious, and then someone just disenchants her. And then you have to recast her with tax and flip her again. Just seems annoying.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

And you're really shut down if you don't have a reliquary tower effect, because then you have to chuck every non-forest card into the yard

[@tahmthetankengine8557]

Flippidy dippidy 😂

[@treyconover4107]

I have a friend that plays borborygmous who uses storm cauldron and horn. It's so good I hate it, haha.

[@shawnspidle2530]

Dammit! I was thinking of building a deck like this & thought I was the only one lol. This deck looks like one of the biggest asshole decks out there & it's right up my ally I would throw in Omnath as well 😏😏 Great video DJ keep them coming

[@professorb623]

Excellent. Fun!

[@TheTreborus]

this is such a great deck :D

[@40Found]

Big mana energy

[@skyjones5425]

Love this deck :)

[@smilepandabye]

But my commander games do end before turn 7. Anything after that and I start to get bored.

[@crovax1375]

I prefer Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer for a mono green land ramp general. But thats not say anything bad about this Sasaya deck build

[@scotthensley269]

He was my first commander ever. Now I'm a kamahl guy

[@crovax1375]

@@scotthensley269 I like Kamahl too. I have him as my secondary win con in my Molimo deck

[@MrNikolizaseden]

Where is "laughing hyena"?

[@adderall3676]

Would the great aurora work in this deck?

[@beefman205]

How would Sasaya and Mana reflection work?

[@BobbyB1263]

Oh I love this, So much mana 😂😂😂

[@alexo.8538]

You missed The Great Aurora

[@diojoestar9646]

What tier Patreons is the give away available to?

[@kirbbar2258]

This is a really great and silly deck tech, however I'd still prefer playing selvala. She's just more consistent, and even though you still have to build the deck around her somewhat, it seems a lot less than sasaya...

[@misterturkturkle]

1:16 *DID YOU JUST ASSUME THE GENDER OF A FICTICIOUS SNAKE KIN?*

[@apock2474]

i am disappointing. A deck that generates a unbound (if finite) amount of mana, and you didnt include Helix Pinnical. Never mind. Just checked the price. WHY IS IT $17!?!?!? (Sorry for the rant. Love the video. I am %100 making this deck.)

[@koblfricker278]

it's a shadowmoor/eventide card, which unfortunately means it's price is a bit inflated

[@JumboCommander]

I know RIGHT!?!?!?! I should have mentioned it anyways. There is no reason for that card to be so much money but there also hasn't really been a good opportunity to reprint it.

[@fearanarchy]

This is the exact reason. Older, and there are Sasaya, Azusa, etc infinite/big mana decks with green that want a wincon. If you wanted: Epic Striggle and Masticore are very affordable: use with Kamahl

[@Tuturial464]

I love budget and cheap style decks. Helps with the whole, low on money issues. But there are parts that you know, wish wotc could not be so greedy and cards be so expensive like risk factor.

[@JumboCommander]

Risk Factor's price is all about immediate hype. Guilds is a really solid set and it has strong value. This means that it will be opened A LOT. Risk Factor will go down and in the process we will get cheap shocklands. Remember that WOTC is no different than any other company - their greed is insatiable. A company not interested in profits is a bad company or they are lying to you.

[@Tuturial464]

Jumbo Commander thank you for your comment and makes me hopeful to get some of those guild cards for edh soon. I looked up your krenko edh budget recently and got back to magic. I never knew how much fun this format was and I wanted to pick up some cards like Aurelia and risk factor for both standard and edh. Out of curiosity are you ever going to be on Game knights?

[@jeffwren7815]

I was gonna ask why no Helix Pinnacle but it's 15$ so... That's lame.

[@Cylon963]

Would you ever consider to make pauper Commander deck?

[@professorb623]

I tried that and without powerful board wipes and removal the game goes on and on and on... Maybe with uncommons you could get away with it...

[@Cylon963]

Professor B that what seems to be the most common problem with the format. Allowing uncommons in the format could push it further among play groups and lgs.

[@keenansutherland2776]

random comment but did you change your mic or am i just used to listening to you via the command zone? your voice sounds different and i like the past voice better

[@JumboCommander]

Josh has better sound equipment than I do. I also don't know very much about sound recording so I kinda stumble through it.

[@keenansutherland2776]

Jumbo Commander that’s okay we will always love you and continue to watch you throughout your youtube career

[@djskype020202]

How do you protect your commander as it's a enchantment and people play a lot of Enchantment removal

[@ironjawedangels2812]

djskype020202 in mono green? I guess you just dont?? Heroic intervention maybe. Avoid fate although that is narrow. Mostly you want to go off with Sasaya as soon as you flip it because you will become target number 1. Then you're in green so it's not too hard to recast. Keep firsts in hand if you know you may need to recast and reflip

[@quanjano382]

you can wait to flip until your next turn so if they use enchantment removal you can tap out and still have absurd amounts of mana, this also works to fizzle a removal or dodge a board clear, you can also play sasaya and bluff having 7 lands and they might not waste a removal spell on it.

[@Small_Panda]

I'll be honest you don't usually the turn you flip him is the turn you want value so unless you can flip him and do something with all that mana it isn't time to play him. What you are hoping for is when you play him to still have like around 20 plus mana available after flipping and use that to do something explosive and set up for future turns. as 9/10 people don't let this sit on the board but also remember if he is on the battlefield as a creature only split second cards can stop you from flipping as you can just activate his ability in response to any wrath or removal spell. Also their is far less enchantment removal than creature removal, and as I said the point of him flipping is kind of like hitting the turbo button. If you don't have the mana aka the lands left then wait till you do keep ramping and waiting. This deck is very similar to a combo deck in that it is just looking for one BIG turn.

[@like17badgers]

Yeva, Nature's Herald sure, they CAN kill it, but you have forests that tap for a butt ton. When they go to kill Sasaya, float mana, let Sasaya die, cast Yeva, cast Sasaya, reveal the 7 lands you still have in your hand since the entire point of the deck is to always have lands in your hand

[@djskype020202]

@@like17badgers I should also put in vedalken orrery so I can play her on other turns with the Mana.

[@Chris-rm1pn]

Early squad where you at?

[@icetea214]

actually it doesnt give you 36 mana for 6 lands because it says "for each other land" meaning it doesnt count itself so it will be 5x6 so basically the equation will be x(x-1) where x is the number of lands.

[@AlephSharp]

Yeah, but its "Additional Mana" and forests produce 1 mana as usual, so for each other land, plus its own = for each land

[@xackwithanx5783]

10 Forests? 100 Mana

[@matthumphries4208]

Sweet

[@shayneweyker]

Needs Masticore and Khalni Gem.

[@JumboCommander]

Great suggestions.

[@mmburp]

Rocket Launcher is a super Budget option to sink all the mana/kill all the opponents. Sad thing is, that it has summoning sickness.... Had it once in my Rasputin blink deck. Pretty awesome, especially if it gets handed around the table, cause nobody knows that xD

[@lemuuu_senpai3514]

Hey kid... you like ramp? Also, people said we’d never use algebra in our lives. Ha!

[@patrickhessian8634]

"Do your commander games end before turn 7?" Yes, actually. Quite often.

[@simelot4522]

Does her enchantment effect exist in the command zone....

[@DarkZedCannon]

Unless it says otherwise no.

[@yingyangman11]

Why no hex pinnacle?

[@JumboCommander]

Helix Pinnacle was way outside the budget but I should have given it a shoutout.

[@angelusnielson7135]

I remember when this deck would kill the f out of you.. :P

[@jaycee9972]

i wanna win

[@nathanielkeller5366]

Never been this early before haha

[@Reggaetonaldo]

Wow I'm early.

[@PwnySparklez]

ooooh :D

[@Chainer-he5zr]

Did someone won the deck yet?

[@Strill_]

It's pronounced "Sa-sa-ya", not "Sa-say-uh"

[@Ryluth]

Want to let this out into the universe, but Sasaya says "each other land" so if you have 7 forests out 1 land will only produce 6 mana not 7 mana. In the video you were saying 7 lands produce 49 mana, thats not the case. I'm sure you people can read (don't get me wrong), but just making sure everyone understood that.

[@cklise]

1 mana from the land itself, plus 6 for the trigger. The land is not producing the extra mana, the enchantment is.

[@xackwithanx5783]

I think you need to reread the card. Each land so produces it's own mana, Sasaya's ability adds the additional mana. Tap a forest with seven total forests? 1 original + 6 additional = 7 total. How many forests do you have? That's how much each one taps for.

[@xackwithanx5783]

I'm sure you can read, just making sure you understood that.

[@alexbruceallred922]

Patreon is too expensive when you are broke

[@ironjawedangels2812]

Alex Bruce Allred also too expensive when you buy every deck he designs right after the video. Also nice name