Satisfactory Train Setup Tutorial

[@vormarsch]

Thank you so much, just about to setup my first railroad connection. Your vids always get me back "on track" =D

[@benb1578]

Thanks, this helped a lot after spending hours trying to get 3 stops on a line to to work. It seems you have to enter the platform in the direction of it's arrow, to be able to stop there. You also only need the amount of blank or freight platforms up to the number of carriages you want to load / unload behind the engine.

[@juniix7105]

I think it's better to use the looped system but with one main track. The train will go into the station, then turn, and go into the same track it came from. Tried it. No problem!

[@jamaicanbballah]

That’s what I did too. Had some issues trying to setup one main line going back and forth using the “terminal” style with multiple stops in between. I think you need 2 train stations at each stop, one in each direction to add to the timetable?

[@Earlchaos]

The leaving station name doesn't matter. So Station (A---B)----------------------------tracks------------------------------(C---D) second station. You only need to set up station A and D in timetable.

[@captain_loeffel]

Perhaps you should also have mentioned that a platform can only load or unload a trailer. You can't unload the trailer and then load it with other stuff. Therefor you need a station behind the first one to load the trailer. A little bit unfortunate in my opinion, but you can deal with it. I've learned, that short distances aren't good for trains as they will start breaking very early to be able to stop at the station. So belts and trucks are on short distances faster.

[@TotalXclipse]

Andreas Loefke you’re absolutely right... that’s why I think we’ll do another mythbusters for it ☺️and yes I should have covered the input output options but I’m sure I’ll cover that later ☺️

[@Hebdomad7]

I honestly think the energy requirements are just fine. It's the equivalent to a coal fired power station. Which should damn well be able to move a locomotive up hill.

[@TotalXclipse]

fair point, but I'd prefer it just to balance out trains a little bit :)

[@Hebdomad7]

@@TotalXclipse Double checking the numbers. Uphill is about 150MW which is a one fuel power plant. If THAT huge engine can't haul a train. I don't know what will.

[@maximvoronin1569]

@@TotalXclipse For a bit of a real-world check, one of the more powerful locos used to haul coal trains in AU is just 3 MW power output, and they generally use 6-8 of these for a mile long heavy freight train. Japanese Shinkansen is about 12 MW for a 16-car set that can go up to 300 km/h. Just saying...

[@TotalXclipse]

@@maximvoronin1569 Oh, I don't dispute that at all, I'm just pointing out that for the sake of balancing a game, it should be more expensive. :) - if it were real I wouldn't be able to build half the stuff I do :D

[@irrelevantirrelevant7332]

You could mention that you should generally avoid building steep tracks. Upon reloading, your trains get stuck uphill and require manual driving in order to fix this. I generally had good experience with NEVER mixing items. Every item has one designated spot on the train to load (one node per freight car) and to unload. Mixing items easily messes up any machine setup. 50 refineries loaded with copper are messy and annoying to fix.

[@UniqueBreakfastTaco]

I'm making a 3 loops system, with a direct switching line between the 3 loops since switches are still buggy. Once that gets settled, easy integration to a multi-train loop system

[@admiralcasperr]

I just wanna say trains are still less fuel hungry then trucks, if you calculate fuel consumption for generators.

[@luftwolf7405]

Great summary - thanks!

[@kasuha]

Sometimes you say things that are not true. Trains can't bump into each other, for example. They just pass through each other cleanly. What may happen is that one train operates the switch while other train is on it, and that can disconnect the train. Which leads to some really funny behavior. Another thing is that there's no required correlation between train and station length. The locomotive will just stop at the station. If any freight cars stop at their cargo stops, they get loaded or unloaded, the rest remains untouched and/or remaining cargo stops just do nothing. Personally I hope devs will get rid of the switches - the trains can just select their direction when they arrive at the fork (and continue through as a whole) independent on presence of other trains, and when driven by the player, it can be highlighted on the rail and selected with A/D keys.

[@TotalXclipse]

I didn't mean literally bump into each other... more they go through each other which was what I thought caused them to split, this is actually a bug due to them going through each other on a switch when they're heading to different locations. As for the station length, that's a fair point, I believed this was an issue at first as my trains weren't working and after speaking on the question help line they suggested extending the platform to have the same number carriages. It worked after that but then again If you've got trains working on less platforms, then I'm mistaken. Perhaps mine was just buggy in experimental? I was thinking about switches, and I believe they will have a use. but only if trains cannot automatically switch them back, If I could set a switch I could then use segments as a passing space between two different trains. Other than that they have no use to me. But thank you for the information, and I'm sorry mine's not 100% accurate I do try keep it as accurate as possible, but I can get things wrong :)

[@UniqueBreakfastTaco]

That's what the empty platform is for

[@amahashadow]

I have a loop based main-line with 14x 2-6-0 trains plus a few 1-1-0, and yes, I have seen some weird stuff (usually because 2 trains went througha point at the same time) . Hoping they put block based control to avoid those kind of things, and avoid cilipping between each other. Also Smart Splitter based unloading would be a fantastically bad idea, because if one ressource overflow, you risk locking out your entire logistic system. Until we have factorio-like circuits control, I don't see a proper way fo handling that.

[@TotalXclipse]

A block based control system would be great in general around the whole game, I'm dying for it to be implemented for control groups of constructors or manufacturers and most defiitely it would be awesome. In regards to a smart system, they definitely need to patch smart and programable splitters, but I've personally not had any issue with them because I turn the factories on and off as and when required, so rarely have any bottleneck issues where it's important, that being said, the other option would just be to have freights specifically for one type of item. This would resolve any smart splitter option but mean you either need to use more stations, or have longer trains

[@papasnusi]

good guide Xclipse😉

[@astronosmage3722]

make a loop around each station, done

[@demonpride1975]

i have a question, if a train pulls power from the grid, does this mean that the next station say on the other side of the map. will be drawing power from your main base of operations, so i could build a power pole on the other side of the map, instead of having to create another power station.

[@TotalXclipse]

demonpride1975 exactly, power travels through the rails so train stations can act as two power poles opposite sides of the map so that you only need one large power plant ☺️

[@demonpride1975]

@@TotalXclipse thank you this means i can have one spot that is a clean factory, and the other spot would be for gathering.

[@katraconnor8451]

i think energy requirement should be generaly around the 100MWH not 25 and on steep inclines go to 250

[@FTLNewsFeed]

A video on how to make 45 & 90 degree, and circles would be appreciated if you've found an efficient way to make these rail segments.

[@TotalXclipse]

I'm planning on doing an advance split guide so I'm sure I can find time for that as well! :)

[@oldman1973]

Please do a video showing a setup with a single two headed train going to and successfully using 3 or more stations to load and unload. ie 2 stations for loading and 1 station to unload everything

[@TotalXclipse]

T J sure will look at doing it over the next few days for you ☺️

[@katraconnor8451]

@@TotalXclipse from my personal experience terminal style with multiple stations in between with drop offs and pick ups simply doesn't work. my train will just skip stations and chose random destinations

[@TotalXclipse]

Katarina Connor I’ll have to try this out I think and see if we can make it work

[@oldman1973]

@@TotalXclipse so far every attempt I've made at making a two headed train stopping at 3 stations on a single line has failed, or resulted in the train going the wrong direction into one or more of the stations, so I'm really looking forward to seeing you solve this problem. I've also noticed that even in the last patch on stable if you have 2 trains on the same track with 3 or more stations they will eventually break when they hit a switch at the same time causing the time table to stop.

[@TotalXclipse]

T J yep that’s a big bug at the moment, there’s also a few major ones like FPS drops every time I load the game I start at 30 FPS and within half an hour it drops to about 8... making life difficult. Yes well I hope to have the video up on Monday. You have to do it branching outwards rather than directly on the same line.

[@JOdden-nn8jb]

I can't get mine to work, I get "Unable to reach station". I have one station facing west, with 5 freight unloaders, and an empty platform, then the tracks run east. Second station faces east, with 5 freight unloaders and empty platform. Train has engine, 5 freight cars, and another engine. It will enter and automate to one station, but not the other. Very frustrating.

[@JOdden-nn8jb]

I figured it out, my return train was somehow placed backwards (e.g. both trains were facing forward) instead of mirrored.

[@nickkonzen2369]

Thank you so much, but you dont have to place a Plattform for the second locomotive

[@TotalXclipse]

you're right, I'm working on a video currently and confirmed that you don't, I don't know why I believed you needed to, perhaps it was just experimental being buggy

[@katraconnor8451]

so, if i try to setup a single track terminal system, do i need to setup a train station at each terminal end or just on terminal in the direction i want it to stop at ? how do you do the schedule, do you have to do the schedule for each train car or only on one etc?

[@TotalXclipse]

Katarina Connor the timetable is for the whole train, so you only need to do it once, I think time table sounds a bit more daunting than it actually is, you just need to set the order of stations it goes to, once set it will repeat the time table

[@TiberiusMaximus]

having problems w tracks while making inclines

[@marcussthern1082]

i want to see a build white trains and a minifactory

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

question as i'm watched. but if you have main train rail, that switch of to to train station to load off or on, and then return on the main rail, wil trains that do not are order to stop at that train station just ignore and pas be over the main train rail? it bugging me to have to build more train rails or just one that switch on and off the main rail to stop at stations?

[@TotalXclipse]

I believe they slow down at the station but they do not stop however if you build a rail that bypasses the station they should ignore it completely

[@craigfiles7067]

You didn't say how to set up a time table

[@TheSkorpion08]

is there even a point in using trains? It doesnt really matter if they're more efficient than conveyerbelts if they have to bottleneck in conveyers anyways or does it?

[@thisguy35]

you can put 2 conveyers on each if your in a hurry or more wagons i guess

[@UniqueBreakfastTaco]

You really wanna run belts all over the map? Have fun with that

[@TheSkorpion08]

@@UniqueBreakfastTaco but you have to set up the traintracks as well... I don't think it would be any easier

[@UniqueBreakfastTaco]

@@TheSkorpion08 well, I've laid track....also laid alotta stacked conveyors...try it sometime, I think you will understand

[@TotalXclipse]

Yes... if you run all your items along 24 belts across the map, you're gonna use up a huge amount of CPU space and suffer some serious frame drops... or you could place a single train line, and connect the 24 inputs into 12 depots.... which which will save you a lot of time, and a fair few FPS at the small cost of energy

[@1Rictec]

Can you please explain that terminal way? i turned the stations pointing and still the train always say it cant go there so what direction in each end??

[@TotalXclipse]

Rik tec hey! Thanks for checking out my videos! you’ll need a station pointing away from the direction you’re heading at one end and at the other end facing the opposite station. So it’ll face kinda this way if you wanted a station in between the two points you’ll need Two stations facing opposite directions in the middle then like this They may have changed it since this video though so if it doesn’t work it could be due to an update. But I hope this helps

[@1Rictec]

@@TotalXclipse ahh that worked thank you

[@ElixirEdits]

Wtf, I place a station and the integrated track is always sideways no matter where I place it.

[@TotalXclipse]

That Station always places the track through the station so it will run horizontally

[@DazzerMM65]

its 200 etch now :-)

[@nilzzon1209]

I dont get ush pull right it just says unable to reach next stop someone have an idea of what im doing wrong?

[@TotalXclipse]

How many stations do you have along the line... if it's a straight line I've only been able to do point to point... if you add more it doesn't seem to work but someone has messaged me a tip for having multiple, I'll let you know If It works

[@rogerbecker2860]

chicago bears

[@Siamko]

Why use trains and not belts?

[@TotalXclipse]

There are a fair few reasons why trains can be ideal over belts. providing it's travelling over 300m the throughput is higher via trains, meaning that you can transport items quicker, also the price to construct a train system in terms of resources can be a lot cheaper if it's a fairly long distance and also for longer distances it's also much less time consuming to set up. Not to mention transport power through the rails between stations can save you having to build loads of power lines, or worse another powerstation :) but it does really depend on what you're using it for.

[@Siamko]

TotalXclipse thank you

[@TotalXclipse]

@@Siamko You're welcome :)

[@shekelsean]

1.25x playback speed for normal talking speed

[@literal_trash.]

Thanks

[@Gekka115]

This is just my opinion but I hate seeing people build factories on huge sky platform, I like it more realistic and keep everything on the ground

[@TotalXclipse]

I totally understand that and agree with you, but this isn't a build per se, I needed a large open space in order to give an example which is why I used the platform, as for the other parts of the factory, I was planning out systems for the livestreams I do. They'll all either be taken down or I'll build walls around them eventually :)

[@Gekka115]

@@TotalXclipse makes sense. I have a real ocd thing when it comes to these games

[@Nagria2112]

i love this game but i kinda feel its unplayable after tief 4 without creative mod. I have always been the creative type minecraft builder so i guess thats simmilar. But its waaay to slow to move around and build a factory.

[@TotalXclipse]

I get your point entirely, but that being said, I enjoy the grind more in this game, it's slow but once everything is running perfectly theres a great deal of satisfaction that i get from it... haha the irony Satisfactory, satisfies me :D

[@felipelity7001]

not a tutorial but a bunch of ramblings which I don't need.