Saucony Endorphin Speed 2 Full Review | Affordable Marathon Racing Shoe 2021?

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[@dougmoore7424]

Seth, you just need to carbon plate your next shoedio and call it Shoedio Elite or Shoedio Pro. :)

[@1519Spring]

Shoedio Elite Pro Max

[@MarkKnopflerjunior]

Shoedio Next%

[@dougmoore7424]

@@MarkKnopflerjunior Shoedie Next%

[@slowdime5585]

Up vote

[@KoIhara]

And will it be the case that most people end up preferring the nylon plated Shoedio Speed?

[@ericfenske1138]

QD: I will buy the Speed 1 again. I have 200 miles on my first pair so I’m going to hold out a little bit and see if they come down in price. They are an amazing shoe. I ran my first marathon in them and 4 weeks later set my PR in the half. Easily my favorite shoe for racing. Something about carbon doesn’t work well with me. I don’t know if it’s because I’m not fast enough or heavy enough or a combo of both, but it just didn’t seem to benefit me all that much. The responsiveness and benefit I get from the speed is significantly better and it’s also way easier on my feet. Add the low price and for me it’s the best racing shoe out right now. Great video Seth!

[@gbaker125]

How long have you been running in the Speed 1? Any noticeable decline in the midsole? I bought the Speed 1s in December for a spring marathon that got canceled, and thinking I'll just store them (unused) until a November marathon, but worried that the midsole won't be the same after 11 months.

[@htmonaro1969]

@@gbaker125 I have almost 550km in the Endorphin Speed and they do feel more "relaxed" than the new pair I have. I think they are better as an easy day shoe when they get older.

[@chrisvarelabenitez4690]

I’m at 374 miles and my pair has become unstable to the point it’s not enjoyable. Amazing shoe nonetheless. I’ll try it on again and fix the lacing but it seems to be coming to its end.

[@Bradsworld2]

I ran a 1/2 marathon in the speed 1 and loved it!! It was a pleasure to run in. I just love running in this shoe!!!

[@reecejulian]

Shoe of the year to ‘it’s good’. Wow! Too similar to last years? Evolution of other shoes? or a change in preference in shoes? Interesting review none the less

[@gbaker125]

Another weird inconsistency after the Clifton 8 last week too. I really don't get the scoring system. How is a "special, special midsole" only a 7.75 out of 10?

[@gbaker125]

@@matteocorbetta3120 I think Seth would do well to do some more comprehensive analysis of how he's rated shoes over time so he can be aware of any large biases or inconsistencies. It seems like (fairly often) what he's saying verbally and the number rating he gives don't really line up. And essentially all his scores end up being between 6.75 - 7.75. I hope Seth starts taking the ratings and measurement issues more seriously, because now that he has a big following, his reviews actually have a substantial impact!

[@gbaker125]

@@aruna394 Your guess is as good as anyone's. I hope Seth takes the time to fix the rating system soon.

[@christiangroendyk7198]

@@aruna394 I think the Atreyu Artist got a 10/10 weight or value or something and the Skechers Razor Elite got a 9.5 for weight. But definitely very inconsistent

[@matteocorbetta3120]

@@gbaker125 Agree...we need to bring this up more in the comments :)

[@guitarro1972]

I have the Speed 1, and I just bought the Pro 1. If I had to do it again, I think that I would buy another pair of the the Speed 1. That is the perfect shoe!

[@daveoly6947]

I am 54 and just ran my 2nd marathon this weekend. The first one I used the triumph 17 and the second I used the speed. I took 10 minutes off my time using the speeds on a much more hilly course. They were amazing and my feet had no issue.

[@dont_talk2me]

Do you trian in them as well i am looking to buy just one shoe would speed 2 be ok?

[@geertjanvanaalten]

i still run in the speed 1. Almost 500km in this amazing For 2021 i just bought the carbon x2 from Holka because of the price drop. €139 Got to watch those 💸

[@benmostert9346]

QD I will pass. Seth, I just want to say thanks. Your vlogs are amazing and you are so inspiring. We all really appreciate it🙏

[@shanewise1437]

I have four pairs of the speed 1 - I love it that much. Have ordered the speed 2 from the US (as they are not in Australia yet). Recently discovered the Asics NOVABLAST . So Speed 1 for racing and NOVABLAST for easy/recovery runs. I believe these two shoes from Saucony & Asics work as a perfect pairing for slower, heavier runners like myself. Have tried and used a lot of other shoes, NB 1080, Beacon, Zante Pursuit, Rebel - Saucony Triumph, - (No NIKE as my feet are wide).... but the Speeds are my absolute favourites. We all have different types of shoes, its good to find the Shoetuber that matches your preference - for me I seem to like the same shoes as Meagan from Believe in the Run. Really enjoy Seth's review - full of energy. A bit confused why your shoe of the year last year hasn't seemed to of excited you. Saucony have listened to the feedback and they are even releasing a trail shoe version of the speed to fit the needs of some who want to run off road. Thanks for your review !! Keep up the great work.

[@dont_talk2me]

Thanks !

[@justindepierro]

QD: I ran my first 26.2 distance (virtual marathon) in the speed over a lot of other shoes and I cannot complain. Since then it has been one of my go-tos on long runs. I wouldnt hesitate picking up the speed 1s again, especially if they drop, since i have a ton of confidence in the fit and and feel. I also found that its hard to run slower in these, it just kinda pushes you along. So if the intention is to go slower.... dont speed :-D

[@ericwhite80five]

QD: I have been looking to snag a second pair of Speed 1’s because I love them so much for every type of run except slow runs. The speeds took the cake from the Rincon for me.

[@seangubera7963]

The speed 1 is on sale at running warehouse for $120, that’s a steal!

[@will-eagle1975]

I would definitely buy the Speed 2 because I love the Speed 1 so much. It helped me so much in my training to become stronger and faster in my running. Looking forward to see if it will deliver the same outcome.

[@HobbyJoggerElite]

Being a school teacher and philosophizing over the meaning and value of a grade, I frankly have no clue how the endorphin speed could only score a 7.8/10, or the equivalent of a C+. Your scale confuses me at times. You say this shoe is a “great shoe but not the best”, and I still don’t know how that equates to a C+ value. “Great” in my mind would be closer to an A-, which would break into the 9’s on a rating scale. Interested to see if any shoe ever even breaks the 8.5 mark for you because the endorphin speed might be the most versatile and worthwhile running shoe ever to most people, and that’s a 7.8.

[@paulgeimer138]

Agreed. Seth, your detailed ratings would be more helpful if they used more of the full 0-10 spectrum. When nearly every shoe ends up with an overall score between 7 and 8, it's hard to distinguish the real winners from average shoes. I know many of the categories cancel each other out somewhat (ex. comfort vs. weight), but maybe there's a way to make the ratings even more useful. Thanks!

[@dougmatthews8469]

Agree, was thinking the same thing, how is an 80% good/great score? Totally confusing system.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@dougmatthews8469 I think his philosophy is there will be future shoes that will surpass it. But to me thats silly because no shoe will ever by perfect and compare with shoes that don’t exist yet

[@antonioa.g.sanchez5442]

I wonder if is there any shoe with 9/10 score? or what does it take for a shoe to get 10/10 or nearly 9.5/10.

[@josejpadilla5928]

I’m confused as well 🤦‍♂️ he says it’s a great shoe but gives it 7 in a scale of 10…is that not bad? Shouldn’t it be that good to great shoes rank from 8-10?

[@jamisonrudd4664]

I used the Speed as my racing shoe for my last 3 races. It still has plenty of miles left in it, so I demoted it to a threshold/tempo day shoe, and picked up the Endorphin pro after the price drop plus 10% off ($135 total) as my racer for the next few races.

[@entertheglow5851]

How did you find the Pro after the Speed in races? Did it feel like it could carry you at a faster tempo longer without tire and did you get a better time with the upgrade?

[@Jerome-gs4kd]

I picked the Speed 1 on sale last year to make it marathon shoes. First marathon ever will be Paris Oct 2021. Training shoes are Brooks Hyperion Tempo (2nd pair) and HOKA Mach 4. All 3 pairs chosen on your high quality reviews, thanks for that and for family life sharing. Congrats for selling the house ! Onward and Upward !

[@25themorningstar]

QD: Definitely buying the Speed 1 (for the first time). I was supposed to buy it weeks ago, but then I saw your first speed 2 vlog (which was still embargoed at that time) which pushed me to hold it until they put the speed 1 on sale!

[@mikeclinton3991]

These are my favourite shoes for all types of runs. Just went over 800km in my first pair and they still have lots of life and feel great. Outsole showing very little wear and tear. I also use the pros for extra speedy days and longer runs. Great one two punch!

[@nickj8521]

I have two pairs of the endorphin speed 1's. 500 miles in each. Ran my first marathon in them! Cant wait to try the 2's

[@irritablearchitect]

8:15 - YEP!!! The only real complaint that I have about my V1 pair is that the outsole, in wet conditions anyway, has a tendency to behave like I'm on ice.

[@NatasaM]

You're totally right. Actually, every Saucony shoe I've worn has been like this. They're challenged in the outsole department.

[@Taycore9]

Gosh darn o just love your reviews. Your reviews are detailed and you deliver the reviews with some major charisma and energy. I just bought th Saucony Endophin Speed 2 and the New Balance Rebel v3 for some fresh new mid cushion daily trainers in my running shoe rotation. Both are great!

[@MiguelSilva-gi8su]

I just hit 500 miles on my Speed 1s. They still feel and smell great! Favorite shoe by far!

[@johanpettersson-evers5367]

QD; I will always have a pair of Endorphin Speed in my rotation, regardless of color ways or slight tweaks. Personally I think the Speed 1 works great on easy runs, that's not what I mainly use it for, but I def could. Solid review, as always! 🙏

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

Agree it’s comfortable and pleasant at slower speeds, though it’s a waste of it to use it much for that. I just used it today for a medium paced run with 15x30 second intervals near the end. It’s pretty damn versatile for such a great shoe that is also marathon-worthy at a great price.

[@dannyj1983]

I couldn't resist! I pre-ordered a pair of the V2 in the red colorway(which looks bold and futuristic; very eye catching) for $123 with the roadrunnersports VIP +rewards! I've got 2 pairs of v1 with 250mi and 145mi so i dont know when i'll be running in V2, but its worth it! Let's be honest--running is a couple things aside from actually moving our bodies, outside in nature; its a bit of an eating contest and a fashion show. I'll add that to the collection, tyvm! Cheers, DGR.

[@briannamielke3637]

QD: I am absolutely going to buy the Speed 1 again. It's my current shoe, and pretty soon I'll only have the ability to run in one shoe heading into officer candidate school this fall, so the speeds take the cake! My ankles aren't strong enough yet for the metaspeed sky or rebel v2.

[@xtamhor]

Actually i would not buy the speed 1 again. They are high and narrow and soft and unstable. Sole is 1cm narrower under foot than my New Balance1018V10. I mean I really have to hold on with my toes not tonfall off the shoe in corners. The speed 1 is Great for tempo run 5K or 10K perhaps but slow runs or longer efforts they give me pain in my ankle joint and I pretty much starting to hate the shoe. I much prefer my NewBalance 1080v10 or Beacon 2 for short efforts. Both of those are stable and light and dont have any issues with them.

[@backyard1015]

Good morning DGR family!!! I love the Speed one. I do the runners loop which locks the foot in tighter which I like. I enjoy the gait cycle on the one on easy days with the option of tossing in some strides at 5K-10K paces. It's hard to run in another shoe!!!

[@TheSandkastenverbot]

Had my first run in the Speed 2 today and I already love them. They're the first pair in which I feel really comfortable with a midfoot strike as compared to my usual forefoot striking. I figure my achilles tendons will thank me for the occasional rest...

[@willspinner8746]

How would they work with narrow feet

[@skopa1223]

Same, am normally a forefoot runner. I usually run in the Reebok Runfast Pros and the Saucony Speeds are my “take a break” shoe and still allow me to move fast if I want. They’re just fun and I find them very comfortable. The full on butter shoes are usually to buttery for me. I’ll still always want the Reebok ground feel, extreme light weight, nimbleness and leg workout but the I definitely feel my calves for 2 days after a half marathon in the Pros.

[@skopa1223]

@@willspinner8746 I’ve got slightly narrower than average feet and they work well for me. Like he said, they do have a bit of a racer upper. Not extreme by any means but still a bit racer.

[@RobertHarridge]

QD: I would pick up the Speed 1... that being said, I just picked up the Endorphin Pro 1 for $112 from Saucony. Pinching those pennies. Also, I think another shoe to compare it to is the Puma Deviate Nitro (non-elite). Its the same price at $160, has a carbon composite Inno-plate, similar stack height, similar, breathable mesh uppers. Its a trainer for the Deviate Elite, much like the Speed is the trainer to the Pro. I actually have both, and I feel the Puma Deviate Nitro is more of a tweener shoe... and Puma Grip is amazing! I would also like to say it's amazing how you have created the vlog with your family. These recent vlogs have reminded me that life can throw some curveballs in your training program, but the mental focus is just as important as the physical training. For you to keep focused, keep pushing, all while maintaining the structure of your family during this time is truly an amazing accomplishment in of its own. It reminds me that even on those tough days, turning that door knob and pushing through the suck leads to success, and focusing on the positives, despite all the chaos around us, can turn that suck-cessful run into a successful run.

[@turtle2704]

I'm really waiting for the next matrix blog. I need to update my long run shoes and need the advice.

[@a-cat-suki9242]

omg same tell me one the new one comes out

[@anthonyoliver2639]

These are my first 'super shoes' and they are amazing. First sub 3hr marathon & Sub 18min parkrun (5k) Love them 👍

[@benjaminguionnet6031]

thanks for this review!! i love the Speed!! i associate it with Saucony Ride 13 and Nike Invincible Run for easy days 😎😎😎 Speed 1 still has many days behind it !! i prefer to buy Speed 1 we can fin them at 140euros or used be near new one

[@greenmountainrunner9273]

Love my speed 1's . I swear that shoe makes me run faster!

[@alexforndran7867]

I'm on my third pair of speed 1s (one pair made it to a magical 1000kms) and if I see those come down in price, especially for colourways I haven't run in, then I will unquestionably jump on that/those. Recently volunteered as a pacer for a marathon in these shoes so they definitely work for me at slower paces as well (pace was approximately 5:05m per km), so yeah, this shoe can do it all for me (except for wet and/or technical trails)

[@McLeod573]

QD: thank you Seth for the review 😉 I would buy another pair of Speed1 if the price drops a little bit because there is not many changes between the two...and because anyway we don’t want any changes in that really good shoe in fact lol it works so well....👏👏👏🇨🇵😉👋

[@ChristianRunsNY]

I bought some extra speed 1s, perfectly fine with that choice since it is what I'm used to and will suit me well for tempo days going into 2021 Marathons.

[@georgeharrow6485]

Wow, just watched FOD Runner review the Rebel V2, which I just purchased and received today and then this video pops up for the shoe I’ll be buying next, which will be my third pair of Endorphin Speed’s. So great! Durability prediction I think you’re correct. First pair I took to 1,000ks, which was too much. Second pair I’m at 670ks and I think they’ve almost had it. Would love another pair of V1 but no size 13’s around.

[@victhebrickgaming2227]

Just picked these up today and can’t wait to take them for a nice run!

[@htmonaro1969]

QD: I have almost 550km on the Endorphin Speed and purchased a second pair late last year, before the Speed 2 came out. I kind of disagree with your assessment. I run my easy run in my old ones and they seem to be better for these runs as they age. You never get anything like the type of kms in them as do. We non-KZbin stars. I'm recovering from a health scare and am running my "long runs" in the new version. They are not as well suited to this as I had hoped and will probably need to get a dedicated long run shoe soon. My point is, the Endorphin Speed gets better for easy runs with age. I did run a virtual marathon/50k run in them last August. They were fine for that purpose, especially if you're running around 4 to 5 hours.

[@selfcoachedrunner]

just ordered a couple pair of Pro 1s, couldn't resist that price!! The Speed 2 looks good... but honestly, the 1 is so good I don't even need an upate.

[@azuldkoraxsiempre]

Thanks Seth! I was waiting for this video. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽

[@ynie1]

Boulder running company had the speed 1 for about 110!!! Bought 2 pairs 😊🏃‍♂️

[@philippegagne268]

QD: the v1 was my marathon shoe last year and felt amazing. They still have lots of life left as only use them for speedy runs. If the v1 drops in price, I’ll probably pick a second pair just because it is such a good shoe.

[@philippegagne268]

Yep! I don’t have any CFP shoes so those are my “racing” shoes and the only pair that goes back into their box after being used!

[@erodoeht]

will definitely give the speed 2 a try :) thanks for the review!

[@ACosmonaut]

I just ordered the Speed 1s for $108 on Saucony's site. Great deal.

[@TheHutchRuns]

I love this review but have to slightly disagree, I use my Speed for everything and it works for me, mind you, we are not all the same, are we?

[@sethjohnson5840]

QD: If they go on sale, I'm snatching up some Speed 1s. They're the only pair of shoes I've found in the last 2.5 years of running that don't burn and blister my forefoot pad, and I have done some extensive searching. I use them for 100% of my miles right now; they feel great for me at any pace.

[@backyard1015]

Toss a portable AC unit and Heater in your new Shoedio! It will come in handy for the Winter and Summer months! Good luck House shopping!!!;

[@123Lucuzz]

I love the endorphin line but I don’t know what they were thinking with that colour way ... just my opinion

[@joshuashields8512]

Agreed

[@indorock]

Peep the design of the Skechers Razor 3 Cloak, makes this one look almost boring

[@shaunmcdonnell691]

It's not just your opinion

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

I know most people dislike it but I find it whimsical and different. It’s not crazy gaudy like, eg, the ASICS Noosa Tri-and I kind of like that too, LOL. But who cares what the launch colorway is anyway? You know it’s inevitable there will be lots of other choices soon!

[@joshuaclarke629]

I bought the speed one because of your recommendation. I have done 2 runs in it so far and it is easily the best shoe I have run in! Quick question though. You give the durability prediction but it seems like you never take a shoe much past 100 miles. How do you arrive at your predictions and are those pretty dependent upon the weight of the runner?

[@jazzjingjing]

QD: Pass. But not in negative ways. My Speed 1 is currently on my 'go-to' for speed workout days and just enter 111km and with Covid 19 situation here in my country, I think maybe we cannot have a real, physical, race by 2021 yet. So, I plan to do maybe 2-3 training cycles for this year and the Speed 1 will still doing great at the end of this year.

[@Harry-jz1dn]

I really like this running shoe. A few things that I can offer as advice. It's not for new or novice runners. It won't offer the kind of stability or cushioning that a shoe like the Adidas Ultra Boost offers... and on that, these two shoes have NOTHING in common apart from looking aesthetically similar. I've had practically every shoe in the Adidas Boost range, from the first Energy Boost to the Ultra Boost 21. The Saucony foam is not as spongy or absorbing as the Adidas. It's firmer, tho still enough bounce for what its intended for... SPEED. They are vastly different running shoes. With the Ultra Boost 20... which was my favourite of the Boost range, I'd run my usual 8k at 33 minutes... always hovering around this time. With the Speed 2 I shaved 1 minute 30 seconds off my time on the FIRST run. Which is huge. The Speed 2 is far lighter and it's got more of a rocking motion at the bottom which propels you forward. You really have to get used to it if new to the shoe. I would advise giving them a walk or two to bed them in before your first run. They are very comfy, but quite narrow... I was a little like Bambi at first. If you do come from a cushioned shoe like the Adidas Boost, you should be careful of sharp corners and icy conditions. My first few runs I felt a little tightness in my knees and ankles, but that's because my technique changed and I started running less from the heel and more in a mid-foot strike. It also targeted different muscle groups. I wear calf compression with them which helped with fatigue from the faster pace they MAKE you perform. The Speed 2 don't like you running at a more casual pace IMO, you don't get the benefits from the foam or the confidence of the Boost for slower pace. Adidas Ultra Boost - Spongier foam. Good for heel strikers as most of the foam is at the back. The Speed 2 foam is more spread out back of foot to forefoot which helps with mid and front foot running techniques. Ultra Boost are heavier in comparison, but they're not a slow shoe by any means. The upper tho doesn't offer much lockdown, it's fairly loose. This makes them a comfier, roomy shoe... and it's why i like them as an everyday walking shoe. They are great for casual runs and great for post run recovery, so new runners will love them. Good grip, better than the Saucony IMO. They do wear pretty quickly tho... every shoe I've had in the Boost range the sole wears after a few months... tho the foam doesn't. The only Boost shoe that I didn't find this with was the Ultra Boost All Terrain... tho they were a tad heavy for running. Saucony Speed 2 - Firmer foam, more spread out and feels more steady. Built for pace, SUPER light. They feel more secure front to back and feel tighter when laced up offering better foot lock. There's less foot movement inside them compared to Ultra Boost 19/20. If not laced up proper tho, i felt the heel was quite loose, so be careful of that. I use all the lace holes for better fit and made sure they were tightly laced up. They WILL make you run fast and you can feel them less stable when you slow down or get fatigued. If new to them, you'll notice straight away that your pace from the very start is fast, so be careful not to tire yourself out at the start of your runs. I love that they help you maintain the same pace and you know when you've slowed down as they don't offer the same response or bounce. Those looking for PBs will like them. Post run I get a little tightness around my knee and ankles, so if you have injuries be mindful of this... but could just be me coming from the Ultra Boost back shoe cushioning. I keep my thigh compression on after to aid recovery. Hope this helps anybody deciding between the two foams as it's hard to find comparisons. Speed 2 is the more technical running shoe IMO. The Ultra Boost is dead centre of everyday fashion walking shoe and comfy running shoe. It's like walking on marshmallows. If you want something that's got a bit of both, the Nike Pegasus range might suit you.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

What a load of crap. A new runner would be absolutely fine in these shoes… it’s all about comfort and slowly building mileage - nothing about “advanced shoes”. What are your feet special because you ran some more that makes you “handle” these “special” shoes. 😂 come on bro. Seriously.

[@jc9702]

I would happily buy Speed 1 again, especially if discounted. Need to see more color options before going for Speed 2.

[@Ezrafeig]

QD: I bought the speed 2 and did my first workout in it yesterday. I think I’ll continue to use my speed 1 for easy runs and some long runs and keep the speed 2 for speed/tempo runs and maybe some shorter races. Once the speed 1 burns out I’ll just stick with the speed 2. I won’t buy the pro 2 yet. I’ll burn out my Pro 1 on some summer racing and buy the pro 2 for fall marathon.

[@mahmud3g]

Which one can be the best for a half marathon as an easy speed run...Endrophin Pro-2 or Endrophin speed-2? Waiting for your answer.

[@Peto02]

QD: I almost bought Speed 1 due to your good review but then as Mizuno fan I found Wave Duel Neo (190g = 6,7oz) and ordered it from Japan (172€ = $209) and got it in 5 days :-)

[@swmhill]

Seth, Thanks for another great video! In the videos I have seen so far, it appears that the Speed 2 has a slightly wider (more rounded) toe box than the Speed 1. Is that correct? I would appreciate a bit more width, if so. Thanks! Keep up the excellent work!

[@TheAkenno]

Seeing those old speeds torn apart gets me every time. RIP :'(

[@vinnydinny6355]

right it's such a waste. he could have just googled or emailed the company

[@byebrows9698]

Been waiting for this!

[@Ezrafeig]

Same

[@chrisdecu6422]

My father started running. He’s 48. And can’t seem to get along with the new technology shoes. Seems kinda weird cause it’s doing great for me. What brand /shoe that is good? Preferably a not so stiff shoe, is hoka rincon or clifton be a good choice. My father is aiming to run his 3rd marathon this August. Keep safe and more blessings to you sir seth.👏🏻👏🏻❤️🏃‍♂️

[@christiangroendyk7198]

The Clifton seems like it would work pretty well if he’s ok with a higher stack

[@MrTheJo92]

I think your dad is on to something. He's definitely not the only one having problems with the recent trend of stiff, rockered and / or plated shoes. Rockered shoes have a place in your rotation if you're running a lot of miles and want to take some load off the lower legs. If you're not trying to put up new PBs, don't go for a plated shoe. There is a purpose they were designed for, and it's not daily training (despite everything the companies will tell you). If I was a new runner and had to choose one shoe for daily training, it would probably be a rather flexible, neutral shoe with decent toebox room and a stable platform. The ones that come to mind immediately are the Saucony Ride, Asics Cumulus, Brooks Ghost and New Balance Fresh Foam 1080. The Brooks, Asics and NB should be available in wide, too, in case your dad has a high volume foot / wants his toes to splay.

[@keithc1264]

Another perspective: I’m 200 lbs and run MAF (so slow). I love the Speed 1 for slow easy runs. QD: Speed 1 if the price drops.

[@jamesbreen3194]

185 lbs here, and agree that it's great for my long training runs of any pace (10:30 miles to 8:00 miles).

[@noahglomski915]

If the Speed 1s drop in price, I’ll definitely try to snag a pair. Keep us updated!

[@chrisl3856]

I wanted to asked a really dumb question. Without having any running stores in my area, I do all of my purchasing online with means lots of sizing and return. When you're talking about sizing you show your thumbs pushing down to show length. Are you thumsb on TOP of your tips or really showing the space from the end of them to the end of the shoe? You go with a true full thumb of space? I've come to realize I may have been running in shoes that are 1/2 size too short for quite awhile.

[@marcin6496]

Great review, thanks! I have the opportunity to buy Saucony Endorphin Speed ​​2 and Pro 2 at a similar price. Which model would you recommend as a shoe for faster training and maybe a few races over shorter distances?

[@manuelmariagallegosanchez6600]

Hello, I use 44.5 in Pegasus 39, Invincible and Vaporfly 2. Do you recommend the same size for the Speed ​​2 as well? Or, in general, the same US size that I use in other models😃

[@QuasiAmerican]

Back in January the new Speed 1 colorways were coming out and I miraculously managed to get the speed 1 in white mutant color for £105 instead of £155 which is the RRP here in the UK!

[@lukesherwin4137]

I bought my 2nd pair of speeds almost 2 months ago but I still have some life in my 1st pair at 360 miles (At least for shorter runs. I’m scared to take them on longer runs at this point). Best shoe ever! Probably won’t buy the 2’s since I have lots of other shoes to run in before I need yet another pair of Speeds. The only reason I’d buy the 2’s is if the 3’s are completely awful.

[@riverarichardrrr]

Hi Seth, I have the privilege to run th Chicago Marathon this october. It will be my first marathon ever, so excited. But as today, the must difficult decision is which shoes are the best bet for this race, considering i never run a full marathon before. My personal goal is just under 4 hours, around 8:50 to 9:00 a mile (not a fast runner😁). So the main question is: Should I consider a carbon plated or non plated running shoe? Any suggestion is going to be GREATLY APPRICIATTED! Right now my best shoe is Endorphin Speed, but only run in the up to 17 miles. I love them, but noy shure if they are a right shoe for a full marathon

[@kirktash]

I’m running Chicago as well and going through the EXACT same dilemma (same pace!). I have the Speed 1s and use them for interval days, but really didn’t like them at slower pace long runs, including marathon pace. I could see them as a great half race say shoe. I’ve been training a bit in the Hoka Mach 4s for normal runs and they might work for marathon day-light weight with lots of support and cushion (my best marathon times were all in Cliftons). I plan to try the NovaBlast 2s when they come out as well for easy days.

[@matthewwenzel5236]

Going to keep buying speed 1 until its out of stock. Does so much so well

[@vaffens]

Just bought the Speed (1) before watching this ... sitting at postbox watching the Speed 2 review, not feeling to bad!

[@andywright7425]

Not too sad I bought a second pair of Speed 1s recently after that review. I do love the colourway though. It’s a very marmite thing but I’m in the love camp. With regards to durability, I’ve run my original pair to 750km at the moment and aside from the utterly stained and mottled upper from winter usage, they don’t feel a whole lot different to my brand new pair.

[@jnofzinger]

I just upgraded from speed 1 to pro2 for my race shoe and am using speed 1 for tempo day. I don't do nearly as many miles as you, but if I buy again, it will come down to price and available color ways I guess.

[@nicklas6973]

For an amateur runner running 5.45-5.30/km marathon, is endorphin speed 1/2 an option? Or the mach 4 a better choice?

[@Acalllll704]

The guy at my local running shop said they’re expecting the Speed 1 to come down in price in the coming months by about 20-25%. He said that’s standard for Saucony (as seen recently with Kinvara 11 and Pro 1 which dropped by about that much). If I can get the speed 1 for like $130, I’ll opt to get those. If no price decrease, I’ll go for the 2. My hope is it comes down to $130-140 and I’ll grab two: one to train in, one to race in. It’s a great shoe.

[@icushfu732]

I should have thought about that, i picked up the speed 2’s for 160 last week and didn’t think about the 1’s price drop

[@Acalllll704]

@@icushfu732 All good, you got a great pair of new shoes! Maybe if the speed 1s go on sale, you can pick up another pair to race in 😎

[@backyard1015]

Shout out to Bay Port High School track and field who swept a very strong competitive group of events to bring home Conference in the High School Men and Women's classes! Bay Port is in Green Bay Wisconsin. They also ran in 85-90°F temperatures! Congratulations Pirates!!!!!!!

[@MarcoFerrari179]

Hello, are these shoes good for walking long distance? I walk around 7 miles per day at work and was wondering if these would do the job, thanks!

[@RowOfMushyTiT]

How is the fit around the midfoot? The Speed 1 was too baggy for me with high arches. I like a narrow waist ;)

[@Kinaanath]

QD: After this Vlog very interested to buy Speed 1, it's just after a great innovation it takes sometime again to come with something so great again

[@pyratepotter4850]

I will definitely be buying more of the Speed 1s I love the pair I have and look forward to getting a few more pairs when the price drops.

[@KevinGreenMedia]

: I bought the Speed 1s a couple of months ago and love them. I get a little rubbing on my achilles, but wearing higher socks solved that issue.

[@Shevock]

Cool. Which high socks do you wear? I have a good short sock I like but haven't found a good medium or longer sock.

[@KevinGreenMedia]

@@Shevock I wear Spyder quarter cut socks. They provide perfect protection from any possible achilles rubbing.

[@Shevock]

@@KevinGreenMedia Thanks! I'll check them out.

[@johnszabo8430]

Hey Seth ... after your initial Speed 2 video (when you were not notified of the embargo) I noticed at the end that you seemed unsure of the Speed 2. At that point I grabbed another pair of the 1's. But I also grabbed a pair of the Pro 1 also at a great discount. So I have my current Speed 1 with 100 miles and a backup pair so I'm set for a while there. I think I'll pass on the Speed 2 ... for now.

[@raysollarsthehappyjogger5907]

I usually cap it on running shoes at $130 but I may be willing to splurg on myself and pay the $160. I plan to run my 1st marathon in September of next year in the Surf City Marathon out here in California. Currently my race pace is 10 minutes a mile and that's for a 5K. I may run my 1st marathon in the Hoka Mach 4 or my Clifton 7 and just opt for the cush and forget about the time since I am a jogger anyway. Good chance my pace will be 11 min/mile and a 4:50 marathon 1st time out. What do you think Seth? Will the Endorphin Speed 2 make me a faster kitty cat and still keep me comfortable.

[@xrichx817]

My local running store dropped the 1’s to $128 about 2 weeks ago, needless to say I grabbed a pair of the future black color 😍

[@vez7073]

Very good video. If I train in a Ride 13, is it worth to get the Speed 2 to race ?

[@runnerwatch2280]

I think they can improve this shoe by making the heel counter more accommodating for the Achilles and also ever so slightly widening the base of the shoe along the inside to give it a slight increase in stability when your planting that foot at speedier pace. Also the Vizi line of the speed was my favorite colorway by far!!

[@skopa1223]

My fave, the white/vizi red. Can’t find them anywhere

[@alexr273]

@@skopa1223 Just got a pair of those just cause I couldn't resist that colorway, they restocked on their website!

[@skopa1223]

@@alexr273 Thanks for the tip.

[@tuliomartino9976]

I love my Speed 1 and it has some miles left! But, I will substitute it, when needed, for the Rebel V2 (can’t wait to test the Rebel)! I need a little more to my feet!!

[@cd8599]

Nice job, mate! Can you please review Under Armour Velociti Wind and how it stacks up against the other shoes in that price range?

[@reigaterobot4965]

Great review, coming from the Speed 1's (over 1000km) I'm a little disappointed with the Speed 2's tbh (25km so far) The best improvement for me is the laces, they're not as long as in the 1's and seem to bind together better. The ride so far feels a little firmer in the 2's and the lockdown doesn't feel as snug, this could be down to the roomier toe box? I prefer a really snug fit for my narrow feet (size10) The 2's also seem to feel a bit chunkier and the colourways are a bit dodgy 😊 - They also absorb a lot of water in the wet, way more than in the 1's which made them soggy and uncomfortable (perhaps due to its increased breathability on the upper) Anyway the long of the short is I've just spent another £140 on a pair of Speed 1's in my favourite Colourway - cue sense of relief 😅 - The Speed 2 is definitely is not a bad running shoe in fact its a very good responsive shoe only I prefer the 1 a lot more.

[@peytonbal5060]

Hey Seth, you should see about getting your hands on the NB Vongo V5. Looks just like the V10 or 11 but a stability version without the chunky plastic. As a stability runner, I would really appreciate it 🤘

[@florianarnold6664]

Would you race the speed in a 10k if you like a little bit more comfort than in racing flats?

[@lvalday]

Totally not a recovery/slow day shoe! Today I did a short 4 mile in the Speed at a slow pace (9 mis/mile); usually I wear them for uptempo work... didn't like it at all. It was not until I started to run above 7:45 that I enjoyed the ride

[@Mr_Hndsm1]

What would be a nice recovery/slow day shoe?

[@trinichinee6426]

Why does it feel uncomfortable at slower speeds in your opinion

[@lvalday]

@@trinichinee6426 well this was 2 years ago but I recall that it was a bit unstable at slow paces and that the ride was incredibly lived at half marathon pace. I understand that v3's ride is more stable so maybe it can be used now as a daily trainer

[@trinichinee6426]

@@lvalday at what pace per mile u reckon is it best use for

[@pepijnjones5553]

What’s the best running shoe for me? I run once/twice a week (I’m a field hockey player so I run for a better stamina) Distance: 5-8 km (3,1-4,9 mi) Averagd pace: 12,3 kph (7,5 mph)

[@craigelliott2524]

Loving my speed 2’s… got my ParkRun in these shoes 19:34 and I have entered my first marathon here in Australia in October (The Melbourne marathon)… love this shoe the midsole is magical (so bouncy and so much energy return and I normally run in stability shoes… but I can run in these)

[@sirAll333]

Relax. I'm living in Bangkok. Here we run early morning or evening 😎🌴☀️ Thank you for your vlogs 🍻

[@szervo77]

absolutely getting a cheaper 2nd pair of the Speed 1! love that shoe

[@thepatternforms859]

What’s the best tweener for long runs that are slower? The ASICS Novablast 2 is better?

[@kentm7731]

Surprised by the predicted life. My current Speed 1s just hit 600kms (372 miles), and still feel great! Maybe the degradation was so gradual that I can't feel it. Maybe a run in the 2s would make the difference to a new shoe feel clearer.

[@brochjones]

Loving the videos and congrats on the house Seth! I need help guys, I’ve just started running again and everyday is at an easy pass to build up endurance. Im 6ft 210 pounds and I’m looking for a shoe that will be kind to my joints and allow me to run more often. Any recommendations? Thanks everyone!

[@scottap30bot]

QOTD: Already got a 2nd pair of speeds 1 in stock had them months now lol, but here in the UK they were hard to get in UK 9s, and I'd definitely buy another pair in a different colour scheme. 👍🏻

[@dokutaaguriin]

QoD: I bought a second Speed 1. Absolutely love it!

[@bijaychoudhary619]

Hello Thére, i have winflo but after run sometimes, i feel some burning sensation under feet (may be bcoz of narow size around the feet). I am looking for cushion comfort, stable and durable shoes for trail/treadmill run. I have few pick like nitro velocity/liberate, UA flow, NB rebelv2, saucony endo pro2, mach 4. Which u think is best suitable. And if you have anything out of the list.

[@ndubs360ify]

Speaking of saucony, what were your thoughts on the Canyon TR? I remember it making a big splash when it was first released then crickets…