I've run a lot in Ride 16 and Triumph 20. I prefer the Ride, as my experience in the Triumph is much as Tom describes - when I walk in the shoe I feel a lot of squish and softness, but when I run, landing on the mid-forefoot, it feels quite firm and harsh to me, and on long runs the bottoms of my feet get sore. The Ride 17 would probably work well for me, but I wish they hadn't let the weight go up so much - it's making me look elsewhere when it's time to replace the 16s.
@coyote078 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what model ultimately comes out on top as the best plushy cushioned easy day shoes! I'm having more and more doubts about the Triumph 22 the more that I look at it.
@TheHutchRuns8 ай бұрын
Would it make sense to go for a Triumph 21 over both as they are now available around £120 and up?
@Fearonthebridge8 ай бұрын
Definitely
@dbo45067 ай бұрын
100%
@jrall55713 ай бұрын
I bought 2 x triumph 21because i didn t like the Triumph 22 one week ago so yes i would say it makes sense
@alpineassault7 ай бұрын
hmmm so what I’m getting from this comparison is to get the Triumph 21 if discounted, otherwise go with the Ride 17
@SebastianMoody6 ай бұрын
Those white and blue rides look amazing
@liamferreira89124 ай бұрын
I remember buying the Triumph 17 (the first powerrun+ iteration) back in 2019 and being blown away by the versatility of the shoe. It’s bleak to hear the 22 is a bit of a donkey on the road. Definitely considering the ride 17 for that do it all trainer this year. Hopefully next year Saucony would have tweaked the Triumph to something more akin to former powerrun+ versions.
@seanmac808 ай бұрын
I got the T21s last week and am absolutely gutted as they're slightly off fit-wise and are completely gone here (New Zealand) in the next size up. So I've replaced them with the Magnify Nitro 2 and have the 21s for sale cheap 😢
@snowwalker99998 ай бұрын
They ruined the best versatile comfort running shoe ever. The Triumphs. Now I can’t even find a 20 or 21 my size anymore.
@RunnerdJK8 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video? The ride 17 is the new triumph
@snowwalker99998 ай бұрын
@@RunnerdJK I did. Chill! And no it isn’t. I tried them. They are close but not completely the same thing. Triumph was cannibalizing the Ride 15-16 sale.
@dbo45067 ай бұрын
In with you mate. So devastated. Thankfully I just picked up a pair of 21s so I’m good for a couple more months. Still not happy though
@runnin32168 ай бұрын
I'm curious how the Triumph 22 feels compared to the Freedom 4/5, which was the first non-plated PWRRUN PB shoe. It didn't feel like the Pro or Speed, but I did like that shoe a lot. I know that is a minority opinion, but with those and the Shift being discontinued, I would have to move onto one of these models. It is a shame they keep getting rid of the lower drop models.
@Mr80Miles8 ай бұрын
So Ride 17 has replaced Triumph 21, Triumph 22 has gone supersize, so what’s taken the place of the Ride?
@matthewcreelman13478 ай бұрын
Axon!
@Mr80Miles8 ай бұрын
@@matthewcreelman1347 just got them recently, really like them! I put the Ride pwrrun+ insole in it and it’s even better
@Mr80Miles8 ай бұрын
@@matthewcreelman1347 just got them recently, really like them! I put the Ride pwrrun+ insole in it and it’s even better
@Fearonthebridge8 ай бұрын
TLRD get the 21s on sale
@stuartmackillop19508 ай бұрын
Based on this and other reviews I'm disappointed that the Triumph has changed this much. I'm running 21s at the moment having came from the 19 and the 20. Looks like a switch to the Ride for me. I love the cushion but I'm after a daily that can do more than a max cushion.
@CSRunner78 ай бұрын
The eyelets on the Ride also concern me in terms of durability. Have they held up okay after the first one breaking?
@yusufa.12756 ай бұрын
One of mine came apart after a couple of months
@TomUK75 ай бұрын
I had the Ride 17 and tried them on around the house and the laces were fraying badly so I sent them back.
@אודיצברי8 ай бұрын
T22 VS MoreV4 ?
@ajmartinez19068 ай бұрын
Nice Review Gents, is there any major difference between the Ride 17 and the Ride 15 and 16?
@michaelgriffiths3058 ай бұрын
Alot!!! The R15 is a basic standard daily trainer, if a little firm. The R16 they added weight to and it was generally not loved and it still used Powerun in the midsole. The R17 has power run + in it like the Triumph 20/21 but an 8mm drop unlike the 10mm in the triumph. The R17 is a step up from R15. Avoid R16, if super cheap and want a bog standard plodder pick up R15 otherwise it’s R17 all the way or a cheap triumph 20 or 21 if you don’t mind the 10mm drop. Both shoes were widely recognised as excellent!
@ajmartinez19068 ай бұрын
@@michaelgriffiths305 I thank you for your input. I ask because I have the Ride 15 and was looking for a similar option and got the Gel-Cumulus 25, major disappointment. I will consider your recommendations.
@GeddonBai8 ай бұрын
@@michaelgriffiths305I have had two pairs of 16s they are my favourite daily trainer 😂
@MoBH886 ай бұрын
@ajmartinez1906 Try putting the insole of the ride 15 in the cumulus 25, I find it makes it a completely different shoe, still just ok but much better IMO
@MoBH886 ай бұрын
@ajmartinez1906 I would recommend that you swap the insoles in the R15 in the C25 and try, I did it and found they become a much comfortable shoe and much nicer to run in
@kaprikornian18 ай бұрын
I was really excited with the T22 because I really like my T20....but I'm getting more and more disappoint with every new T22 review/comparison I see lol :|
@Ginguredrunner7 ай бұрын
They really 💩 the bed with the triumph. It was one of the most versatile shoes on the market...now its a easy run/recovery run only shoe.
@viCoN248 ай бұрын
It might be better to skip this generation of Saucony trainers and wait for improvements. Older models are fine and can be found at a discount. New models are quite heavy. Ride 17 has horrible lacing loops that Nick ripped on his first try iirc. Colorways are Saucony kind of usual ugliness so there is little reason to buy them at full price. All of this makes the idea of waiting for a newer, refined model even more reasonable.
@user-fv15768 ай бұрын
Ride 17 is hard sole compared to triumph 21. Don’t like 17.