Savage MKII TR Oryx Chassis and Eley Ammunition Testing

#dayattherange
‪@SavageAccuracy‬
‪@MDTTAC‬

[@dalesearcy5734]

Thank you for shooting less expensive rifles on your channel. I'm impressed with your high end rifles but it is fun to see you shooting lower prices rifles. You know, the kind that many of us can afford. I just got a Savage Mark II BV and have only shot it once, so far. I ordered some CCI Standard and some Norma Tac II ammo to try out in mine. It will be fun to see how it shoots.

[@Dayattherange]

Enjoy it let me know how it goes.

[@1954rushing]

I'm shooting SK Plus in mine and it's shooting great. Every gun shoots different with different brands.

[@stevenxindaris1477]

Set your action screws to the same torque. Between 25 to no more than 30 inch pounds. That has been the sweet spot on the Savages I have worked on.

[@Dayattherange]

I am sorry not willing to go over 20in pounds after seeing the results of going above that after seeing what happened to the last receiver and screws stretch. Many say the Savage screws are not hardened so be careful. Savage recommends 15in pounds yes 15INCH pounds.

[@chuckglasser9683]

Love the times you bring out the savage I've got an MK II in the same chassis. Hoping you'll test some RWS next

[@Dayattherange]

Let me start digging around I think I have at least 2 different brands of RWS.

[@SavageShooters]

A couple years ago I spent a full day at the range chronographing a number of different types of ammunition. For each ammo type I did three 20-round strings to get a good large sampling of each. What I found across the board with the cheap and mid-range ammo was that they were all pretty disappointing in terms of extreme spread and standard deviation for each string. Some of the cheaper stuff had extreme spreads over 180fps. The mid-range ammo (Eley Club, Norma Tac22, etc) in the $8-12/box range was a little better than the run of the mill cheaper stuff like CCI Standard Velocity and various "bulk" types, but in my option not sufficiently better to offset the difference in cost. The high dollar stuff (Lapua Center-X & Midas+, Federal Gold Medal, Eley Tenex, etc) was noticeably more consistent with the SD's typically being in the high single digits, but with most the ES's were still in the upper teens or very low 20fps range. So as you would expect the more you spend the better quality ammo you're getting in terms of consistency, but if you're looking to eek out every thousandth of an inch in your groups or chasing every X in a match you're going to have to pony up the cash for the high dollar stuff to be competitive.

[@ron8566]

Ya! I get my best results with Eley Tenex and believe it or not, SK Rifle Match.

[@timothytrexler1896]

I hope you mean a nylon brush instead of a copper brush

[@JonFox-t5x]

I agree with you on the borescope. I looked at my new mkii and thought it would be a lemon. The lands look great but the grooves leave a lot to be desired. But it shoots good.

[@guy-ux7wg]

Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 and Happy new year!🎉

[@Dayattherange]

Same to you

[@johnkirkpatrick1536]

Two hours ago, I picked up a brand new savage mark ll BTV. About to mount an Arken LH4 6-24 on it. The action is really tight, but the trigger is lighter than my best timney trigger. If this rifle shoots, a chassis will be in its future. Thank you, sir, for the perfect timing for this video. Happy New Year, sir.

[@Dayattherange]

Let me know how your BTV is shooting. Get some rounds down the pipe and join some of our challenges. Look forward to seeing you.

[@derrickmitchell-k6k]

What's up, brother. Man, I just got the Elite 110 Precision in .338LM. Spent more than I should for it. I didn't see this one, though. Seems to be a good shooter.

[@moegsi]

Please Test SK Biathlon

[@shygirl-qu3ms]

being a fan of eley i really liked this video because even though it shot around a bit they were all still on target inside the outer green fing

[@ron8566]

I know that Eley Tenex and Eley Match use beeswax for a lubricant while the cheaper Eley ammo uses a different lubricant. Not sure what they use in Team, but I would re-season the barrel when you use Eley ammo with a different lubricant.

[@BROTUNED]

I just picked up a savage mkII btv and it’s been impressive so far especially for the price. The smoothness of the action is pretty bad but it does shoot very well

[@Dayattherange]

Thank you. I am going to focus on getting some rounds downrange thru this pipe. The action is very smooth. I am wondering if I am expecting to much.

[@greghollis9006]

A little polishing compound on a buffing wheel on a dremel and you can slick that savage bolt right up. I used a fine grit polishing stone on all the sharp edges of the bolt and then about 15-20 minutes with the deemed and some polishing compound and it smoothed it right up.

[@rickoszpar9513]

I buy Blazer bulk, check and sort by weight, and get pretty good results. My separation is by .2. Grains. It really shocked me the difference in loads. From 46.4 gr. On thelo side to 49.6 on the high side. 48.4 to 48.6 being the average. So I just use this for practice rounds. But I use Ely match for competition.

[@Dayattherange]

Becareful with the sorting you will be claimed to be a warlock or witch LOL as many see it as vudoo and makes no difference. Here is an article I wrote about sorting and the results I had dayattherange.com/6205/

[@Dayattherange]

This might be worth a read to on cost vs accuracy of 22LR dayattherange.com/22lr-ammunition-accuracy-comparison/ I did back in the day.

[@rickoszpar9513]

@Dayattherange Thanks, I will give it a read!

[@VivekGlobe]

My Mark II FV is not ejecting the last pack of Blazer that I bought, they are sticking in the chamber and not coming out, but I was very satisfied with it before this.

[@KurtKnock]

@@VivekGlobe I had the same issue with my Mark II BVSS. I took the spring clip off the bolt and bent it a bit so it has more tension on the ejectors and it works 100% of the time now :)

[@benjaminkgooden9329]

I'm shooting SK long range when I can find it. It shoots it great. I tried several Eley and it didn't seem to like it. Some say their Savages shoot everything great but mine is pretty finicky. By the way mine is the threaded 16 inch heavy barrel that costed me less than 300. I put a boyds stock on it. If I do my part it will shoot 5 shots in one ragged whole. Usually lol

[@philippeguianvarch3922]

Eley sport is one of the best ones

[@jw9424]

I shoot NRA 4-position with an Anschutz 1918 and Eley team. I have to shoot at least a box of ammo through it after a barrel clean before it settles in. Once it does, team shoots better than I can in that rifle.

[@markAGleason]

After using almost every sort of bore cleaner in existence, none seemed to get all the lead (and copper) out of my bores no matter what I did. Same thing with carbon rings which seemed impervious to all my efforts. I then found ThorroClean and it solved the problem. I have never found anything that comes even close to this product! You might want to give it a try. If its a vintage rifle with years of fouling you might find it will take more effort (more brushing) than they say in the directions, but if done properly, your bore will look as clean as a new rifle. I wish this stuff was around when I was a kid (a long, long time ago!)

[@Dayattherange]

Interesting I was just watching a buddies video on this stuff hey swore by it and the guy is as honest is the day long. I think I will give this a try.

[@markAGleason]

@@Dayattherange Trust your buddy~~it WORKS. My concern is the chamber and the first few inches of barrel. If there's a build up of lead and hard carbon at the beginning, that lead bullet is getting compressed smaller than it should before it has a chance to travel the bore. I have never found a product that actually does what it claims until now. My bores look like the day they were new. NO fouling.

[@LONGRANGEPRECISIONSHOOTING]

I can't believe you are wearing that Marine Copes emblem on that hat shooting like that. LOL Mr. Toilet Seat. LOL

[@1mccactus]

Hi Range man. Have you tried using a small

[@Dayattherange]

Thank you for the tips.

[@woutergijs5246]

After the first magazine I was thinking “ stop it, Eley is no good for this .22. Just take SK standard+ or rifle match”

[@Dayattherange]

I have this addiction called the 22lr Rabbit Hole that just won't turn me loose lol

[@woutergijs5246]

@ I am genuinly mentally ill, so ill that whenever I see some new .22lr ammo, I buy it, try it, and always come to the same conclusion : SK Standard +. 😂

[@TheHybridHunter307]

My MKII shoots Eley Match really well

[@woutergijs5246]

@ good! And I thought the same about the different Eley I have. Same with RWS, Aguila, Federal, Winchester…Now and than an occasional good result. A good day? No wind? After a leaning? Sharp eyes? Don’t know. So I always come back to SK. Let me put it differently: SK runs good in all my .22lR, rifle or pistol.

[@mikewilliams719]

My Mark II FV Custom shoots lights out with Wolf Match. Full custom chassis and a Harrell barrel tuner.

[@Dayattherange]

What chassis is it in?

[@mikewilliams719]

@@Dayattherange Custom aluminum chassis I machined myself. Truly a one off. Send me an email address and I will send you some pics. Mike @ Long Rifle flashed a pic I sent him on a mail call episode he posted. I sent him some Mark II parts I make to test and keep. Extended magazine release and some factory 10 round magazine base pads. If you would like I can send some your way too.

[@mikewilliams719]

Custom chassis I machined myself. I sent some pictures to you by email.

[@Bluedog6_9]

Can you try CCI ?

[@jefferymoyer4971]

Hey big fella I sat down and watched this as soon as I got it. I shoot that target at a local match here every month with walther kk match and eley tennex or match but lately not really satisfied with eley ammo.,the consensus of our benchrest shooters is that it's not as good as it used to be. I had the same results as you with club and target. Lapua is top dog right now but hard to get and I would guess that's what you shot last. Maybe increase torque on your screws couple pounds at a time and find that sweet spot with savage. Great video

[@Dayattherange]

I can't say what the ammo was Jeff until the next video which will be REAL SOON LOL

[@LONGRANGEPRECISIONSHOOTING]

I bet you got the toilet seat shooting badge in bootcamp. LOL Semper Fi Brother.

[@mattstang1983]

Man, I love your videos. This savage don't seem to shoot well with anything you're throwing at at. What are your thoughts on that mdt chassis? You think it helped any compared to the stock chassis? I honestly think the stock classis has been shooting better my self. I been all over with tork from 38 down to 15 and just dont get the group's as we use too. Thing has me pulling my hair out.

[@Dayattherange]

The Oryx fits me much better than the regular stock as I have a longer length of pull. There is a lot that I like about it. Catch the later video's I did and you might change your mind on if the Savage is shooting or not LOL. Or go take a look at dayattherange.com/effects-of-action-torque-settings-on-accuracy/ This rifle is easily a 1/2in at 50 yard rifle which meets my expectations thats .5in keep in mind some pay 2 to 5grand for a rifle to get .2's and .3's. So I am tickled with it. My goal with this is to find hopefully some cheaper ammo that it shoots CONSISTENT .5in groups with.

[@mattstang1983]

@Dayattherange I agree, I just haven't had luck with the oryx ever since I swapped it out. The stock btvs shot great, but now it's not so great I been thinking of swapping back. As for cheaper ammo have you tried any federal premium gold metal target? That was the closest I found that shot almost as good as the lupula center x out of ours with the stock chassis

[@yl3064]

Lapua Center-X or SK standart plus

[@greghollis9006]

That last group of match may have shifted a little right due to wind. I heard it pick up in your microphone right as you started shooting that group.

[@MJHiteshew]

I have the same problem with Eley and my Mark II - the flat tip gets stuck sometimes. I have even tried magazines from Csspecs and the same thing happens.

[@LONGRANGEPRECISIONSHOOTING]

I run a copper brush on a drill motor after every 600 rounds with Krol on the brush

[@joeltipton6038]

I got the best groups from mine with CCI Velocitor ammo give them a try brother

[@josephjulian2503]

I don’t have a Savage but Eley Match & Team have shot well on my 457. Not as well as Center-x or SK Long Range but well enough. I’ve been hearing from some pretty dedicated smallbore competitors of their disappointment with Eley ammo’s accuracy of late.

[@Dayattherange]

I am hearing this more and more Joseph

[@TheDeadeye83]

Federal 510. Cheap as dirt. Shoots lights out out of my 541-s.

[@ronaldeastman9354]

i have just got a savage mk 2 and mine leads up bad also i cleaned it and used jb bore bright it did shot better and lead up less

[@charlesking8542]

Rims are thinner on Eley products vs everything else, which changes the headspace. Therefore the results can be quite impactful depending on the chamber dimensions. In my 40X Eley Match shoots excellent, just as good as Center X. In another custom rifle Eley will not even chamber as it was setup for Lapua.

[@Dayattherange]

I hate to believe what I am reading and hearing many saying new Eley ammo is not up to snuff I hope that is not true but I will move one to test other brands.

[@charlesking8542]

@@Dayattherange Thinner rims is not a defect, just a design difference that the chamber must be able to accomodate. Eley Match shoots great for me.

[@chrislang5659]

Im guessing Lapua. If I'm correct, I'd like to see their most budget option!

[@Dayattherange]

Chris you are nothing but trouble LOL. Next video is for you buddy

[@chrislang5659]

@Dayattherange 😅 Ah, get a dedication? Couple skate only?😍😘😅🤣😂

[@Grimior00]

Eley Target is my ammo of choice for my Savage MKII TR. I was surprised you didn't get better groups. Does your rifle need cleaned?

[@Dayattherange]

I know I talked to much in the very beginning of the video but it was to set the stage. This was after a DEEP cleaning. Before turning on the cameras I shot 20 rounds to season the barrel. Over 50 passes of wet brush, wet patches and dry patches. The deep cleaning was due to the view in from the bore scope.

[@JonFox-t5x]

Try 10 inch pounds on your action bolts. I have a new Mkii FVSR that my wife bought me for Christmas. It seems to like the lower torque settings. I’m shooting a half inch group at 50 yards with a Romeo 5 dot and CCI standard velocity off my backpack. Don’t have a rest or shooting bags yet. Hopefully I’ll be able to get a descent stock and scope later. May even stiffen up the factory stock with some 3/4 inch aluminum tubing. I modified my trigger to 12 ounces by trimming 2 1/2 coils off my trigger return spring. I’m done with the trigger!😊

[@Dayattherange]

Wow nice trigger work.

[@JonFox-t5x]

@ I shot it yesterday at my local indoor range at 25 yards with a Romeo 5 red dot off my range bag. Getting tight groups with CCI standard velocity and Norma Tac 22. Can’t wait to upgrade the stock and put a good scope on it.

[@shannonburke6355]

Alot of switching wind for 22 at 50yd

[@jamesmccullough8657]

Maybe lapua ?

[@johnnymccann5607]

slow down, be quite, concentrate ,get breathing slower heart rate lower. don't rush yourself, keep scope setting for comfortable lower power. I've had 22 rifles that would group 1in groups and under at 100yd. remember 3 word from a old marksman, consistency, consistency, consistency. if the first step not right the end result won't be right either. papa wishing you well

[@Dayattherange]

Johnny appreciate the comment. Keep in mind I cut out the dead time between shots or the video would be an hour long LOL.

[@shenanigansagain5273]

I also tried eley, all variants, out of a mk2. Was disappointed. I got more consistency from cci standard. My particular rifle loves sk rifle match, but depending on lot, can also have that random flyer ruining an otherwise bragging rights group.

[@ronaldbenskin493]

Not bad for 300 yards! Lol

[@theodorehowe2262]

Try some Wolf ammo or something besides Eley 😅

[@michaelblackwell3789]

Wolf has Eley headstamp on it.

[@bfox87]

Have you lightened that trigger yet? Free mod...

[@Dayattherange]

Bfox can you email me some instructions buddy to lighten the trigger. I was trying to keep it stock but now that I have put it in this old oryx chassis I had from the first rifle it is now open class so all is out the window LOL.

[@thomaskladar4464]

Club and Target do not shoot very well thru my savage.

[@gordtaylor4621]

Lapua please

[@ronaldbarr4920]

Wind flag , Wing flags & Wing flags will give you answers. You said 7 to 15 mph winds

[@MnShootingSports]

My MkII likes Team also

[@ronaldeastman9354]

my savage mk 2 likes sk rifle match and lapua long range

[@chrislang5659]

That's too bad. There's 4 guys out in KZbin land that are shooting really good with very budget ammo. 😮

[@thomaskladar4464]

You didn’t test Eley Contact or Force ammo which is their cheapest ammo. My Savage likes the Force and my buddies CZ 457 shoots the Contact ammo better than the Tenex!

[@johngeiselbreth8397]

lapua

[@dennishoffman3531]

Idea sell to ky rimfire 😂

[@Dayattherange]

Not right Dennis LOL

[@mhe.3615]

I don't think it's the Savage. I think it's the ammo.

[@woutergijs5246]

Eley - including Tenex - does not work great in all my .22lr rifles. ( A-54, Walther, BSA, CZ, FN T-Bolt, Luger, A-1415, Lampagyar) And always misfires in the 4 target pistols.

[@Dayattherange]

That's sad

[@Kyrimfireandhobbies]

Could be the operator lol.

[@Dayattherange]

Ain't no way LOL.

[@RyanBissell]

I've recently learned that firing a cartridge in the chamber rings the entire barrel like a bell. That bell-ringing means that the muzzle is vibrating. So, if you are chasing high-precision, you want your bullets to exit the barrel at some precise moment when the ringing has returned the muzzle to the "zero" center of oscillation. This insight supports the idea of sorting your preferred cartridges by weight.

[@whiteboynse]

So 2 things...... 1) I've had great luck with savage I have a savage 110 bull barrel 308 and I can hit 6 inch plates all day with factory ammo and can clover leaf with handloads.... 2) I have a 1727F that shoots CCI better than this savage shoots this eley... it didn't like the rounds untill.I had 75 rounds down range...

[@paulstakun8249]

Just because it’s Eley, doesn’t mean it’s good. I’ve gotten some really disappointing results with various types with a dozen different rifles including Anschutz, Vudoo, and CZ. Club used to be fairly good, but it’s crap today. Tenex NEVER worked well.

[@lazybear236]

Disappointing but not unusual for Eley.

[@Dayattherange]

Listen we need them to step up their game.

[@keithhaynes8079]

As a rimfire shooter for 50 years now ,do you know that Eley rimfire is made in China now and not England under licence for Eley that is why you are getting fliers we in England do not shot them in matches anymore.

[@johnh4957]

wow first I'd heard of this, unusual for internet to not be on top of that! I wonder what other ammo.guns are coming out of china(besides Norinco) I bet Trump will have something to say!

[@youtubejunkie8053]

Good to know

[@streettuff2623]

Fake news⬆️

[@Dayattherange]

@@johnh4957 There is a lot of confusion about all the brand movement of 22lr over the last few years. Driven mainly buy ELey purchasing Wolf from Lapua which is also SK. Though Eley is still made in England now along with Wolf. More confusion comes in because Eley starts production of their with brass components in Spain.

[@johnh4957]

This seemed fishy so I went to Eley web site, no news there so I left a customer question but of course with holidays I'm not expecting an answer soon if at all, I will repost if I do hear back though.

[@rickh9306]

Man oh man, would I like to talk to you about technique on a couple of levels. Don’t let anyone kid you, cleaning needs to be a complete routine and thorough, not hodgepodge. I don’t think your action screw torque is near correct and remember it’s INCH POUNDS please. I appreciate your enthusiasm but damn slow down! Don’t rush this stuff! You really should clean the barrel every time you switch ammo for best results. The lube can and does vary on .22 ammo even if made by the same company. I could go on but it would make this post way too long. R.H.

[@lewisrice3741]

It's the gun and the ammo bought are looses can't make a silk purse out of sows ear Beagleman

[@TheWheels1965]

Its a Savage, its shit!

[@lewisrice3741]

Eley ammo will not shoot in a good rifle have tried it in good shooting rifles didn't get no tee shirt. Beagleman

[@Wr3ckZ]

Note to self: Do NOT 'deep clean' my rifle barrel! LoL!

[@Dayattherange]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ClarenceP11-B]

It's the ammo every firearm is picky with ammo you have to shoot different ammo for every firearm you shoot my stainless buckmark pistol likes federal auto match popping soda cans all day at 60 yards try different ammo firearms can be picky with ammo