Savage Model 10: The 1000 dollar 1000 yard rifle

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Most call it "trace", and yes - it's the bullet causing a disturbance in the atmosphere that's visible through the spotting scope. Spotters for snipers will use this to call the shot and give the sniper/shooter adjustments to their hold-over so they can get on target for the next shot.

[@SupermanBB]

Very well spoken and obviously comfortable on camera. It's nice to see someone who prepared to be making videos

[@raysarchet8463]

Yes! Articulate, prepared and does not stutter! A very pleasant switch form the duh - duh - duh's.

[@mrcu8176]

I have a Walmart Savage 10 chambered in .308 . Paid almost dirt for the rifle. I have a Vortex Crossfire II 6-24x50 for $300.00 and I can reach out to 1000 yds. Savage and vortex makes a great combo !! Plus I LOVE the accu-trigger.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I really like the Vortex scopes.

[@jamiewhite838]

I am very happy with the direction this series is headed. The combo of your personality & commentary & low $ long range has got me glued here!

[@nagasako7]

I find watching "racing to make the most cost effect" 1000yd rifle is far more exciting than watching "taticool" rifles that costs outrageous amounts.

[@jarrettm3728]

Id go with bergara or tikka over savage all day

[@joztunes69]

I don't know what Savage firearms does with the rifles, but they one of the best accurate barrels on the market for an American made rifle and a factory rifle at that

[@Militaryarmschannel]

No issues with the Accu-Trigger. I like it quite a bit, it is one of the best out of the box triggers I've used without going to a 3rd party match trigger. As for the stock, it's too short for me and the comb is less than ideal. However, this is a budget build and there's no room for a McMillan or Manners stock in the budget.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Yup, I'm thinking about that and which is why I said we may be going to the 20" barrel.

[@cafeqc3793]

I have one Savage 10TR. Absolutely amazing gun, is worth every dollar spent.

[@DementedAi]

I keep coming back every day hoping to see part two. Its kind of like watching a great show that leaves it at a cliff-hanger with the words. "To be continued... Next week".

[@fireball676]

I have one of these that I had converted to left hand. I absolutely love it.

[@steelgila]

My M111 .300 Savage didn't seem to do well at all with factory ammo but when I used my handloads with Sierra matchking bullets I put four rounds in two holes. I'll probably never see that kind of accuracy any time soon.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Yes, I posted a video on it. I've gone with the ELCAN SpecterDR.

[@peterhansen4671]

savage model 10t-sr in 6.5 creedmoor 24" barell (W/ SAVAGE $100 REBATE ($550)), burris xt low rings($50), swfa 12x42 ss scope(ON SALE $250). love this gun! Great trigger. TOTAL: $850! LOVE THE CHANNEL AND ALL YOUR VIDEOS!

[@joelouden6592]

Savage rifles make even some of the $3000-$4000 long range rifles look silly.

[@joztunes69]

Yes they do

[@drfroglegs]

Agreed. I bought a Savage 10 T from Cabelas on sale for $403 and it's a 1/2 MOA gun all day long... I would expect that out of a $3k GA Precision rifle, but a $400 Savage?! I'm sold!

[@joztunes69]

drfroglegs Savage rifles have one of the best or the best factory barrels and I speak from owning a few of the other brands, including Remington and Browning

[@BigChiefTomTom53]

drfroglegs me too! I have a 112 BVSS, and it also shoots 1/2 MOA at 100yds ALL day long! I'd trust my life to the accuracy of a Savage rifle... I'VE HAD IT FOR 19YRS, AND IT'S AS ACCURATE AS IT WAS AFTER I FIRED THE FIRST FUCKING SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@klevee6076]

drfroglegs ditto. In fact I put a model 10t up vs an rpr and savage stealth,all in 308. The 10T shot sub 1/2 MOA using fggm and the 185 grain juggs. 1000 meter and beyond load right out of the box. The 10T is the best value on the shelf. Precision capable for pennies.

[@brianmiracle2718]

Curious as to why you chose an 18" barrel for a 1000 yard gun? Sure shorter barrel is stiffer, but velocity still needs to be maintained for 1000 yards. Shooting .308 168MKs, are you staying supersonic past 800 yards? In my mental math I can't see it working too well. Perhaps the 175's will stay supersonic, but no way to get the velocity high enough for the 155 Palmas out of 18" barrel. What is your ballistic calculator showing for retained velocity at 1000 with the 168s and 175s?

[@redpilledsupak9979]

I know you are but what am I?

[@spraynpray]

"Remington Match" in my world translates to "Somalian Plinking Load" or "Machine Gun Food".

[@phoenixnfa]

you poor, poor man. have you tried any other remington products to see if they work better for you? i only know one other guy in the world who has that bad of luck with rem.....wait a minute. YOURE HIM!!!

[@spraynpray]

I've yet to use a Remington product made in the past 20 years that isn't complete trash. Four calibers of ammunition! FOUR! That's enough to be sure.

[@spraynpray]

That's because the 870 is an old design now being made with bad workmanship. Bolt actions are supposed to be overbuilt. We're all used to overbuilt bolts. So an underbuilt one makes your head spin.

[@strr60sevenunsolicited61]

spraynpray when i bought my 870 5 years ago i put 200 rounds through it, then went skeet shooting and half way into the shoot i pulled the trigger abd the gun didnt go off..6 secounds later and BOOM it went off. never buying a new production remington product again. plus theyre customer service sucks.

[@kylelone9636]

That sounds alot more like an amunition problem than a problem with the firearm

[@RT381222]

I have a Savage 10FLCP-K with a sightron SIII 6x24x50. I make my own hand loads for this rifle and it is incredible. Love the savage 10.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Thanks, Will.

[@Munky332]

I'd say slap the money into a fixed power scope for that low amount of cash, more robust with more features & better glass. a 12x or 16x SWFA SS should fit the bill nicely, and still leave a hefty chunk of cash for the rifle.

[@silvermediastudio]

And good ammo. remington match, isn't.

[@bass779]

So, part 1 covered mostly covered NOT the savage model 10. Mostly a Reaper and a scope that didn't work. I'm excited to see if you review the Savage in part 2...or if instead you review truck tires and shooting gloves.

[@mfisher6485]

I'm also building a 1000 for a 1000. I opted for a Savage in 6.5CM and was very happy with both the factory Hornady and my hand loads shooting a consistent 1/2 moa even with the kit scope(which I removed). Instead of a variable power I opted for a fixed power swfa 10x since fixed power scopes tend to give better results for cheaper prices. Haven't got an opportunity to get on the 1000 yard line yet but I'm very optimistic that this setup will reliably hit steel at a grand.

[@MavHunter20XX]

One worthy scope of mention that someone here probably have mentioned is the SWFA SS in 10x42 mil/mil. I don't know if Primary Arms have mil/mil reticles available (in stock) at this time. I had to purchase their HUD system....I should do a review on it.

[@ccsniper]

unless your are doing competition, 1 MOA is probably more than enough. If you are trying to hit a man sized target out to 1000 yards then, if the MOA holds (which isn't always true) you will have a 10" group at a 1000 yards. The average man is 22" across from shoulder to shoulder.

[@nicholaslechner9876]

I toured the LWRC plant and the repr is the best ar-10 on the market. That is truly a beautiful firearm and I would love to have one. LWRC has one of the highest quality rifles out there and it’s so sick that you have a repr

[@PalmettoNDN]

LOL. That 2013 smart phone with the miniscule screen. Great video to this day. Thanks!

[@PhoPhucLai02]

Mac I love these reviews. Don't know if these purchases are leaving a dent in your bank account but hope you can still keep reviewing firearms.

[@TonyTheWildcard]

5k for a rifle that cant' shoot a one inch group at 1000 yards, That would piss me off, considering you can save up and buy a Barrett 50 cal and just be done with it. I think that is what I would do. I mean if I had 10k to spend on a long range rifle. But most ranges don't go out to a mile sadly lol.

[@davewayne9610]

This is the first time I have seen one of your programs. This is very informative You have 2 new fans, my son in law and me.

[@z28kindaguy]

The bullet trails at the end if the video = awesome.

[@Ryansrangereport]

Also, they track very well, I've never heard anyone complain about any of the HDMR/G2DMR/ERS/XRS not tracking. I've seen one XRS go down, but all scope brands will have a few bad apples in the bunch. That includes brands like S&B. I've dragged my Bushnell though about everything and it does nothing but preform.

[@cavscout62]

I traded my 10fcp for a 10dt in 6.5cm and topped it with a PA3-18 and it flat shoots! I’ve loaded everything from nosler and Sierra in the 120-147 gr and it drives them all like a laser.

[@tbled52]

I just got one too. I also went with the ss 10x. I have shot about 20 rounds and am very pleased with the combo.

[@Mistershootforfun]

I have a Savage M11 Hog Hunter, very similar to what he is testing here today. My optic is a Redfield Revenge 3-9X42 and it will shoot very impressive groups. You can keep groups around 1 inch at up to 300 yards. With me shooting it, that is pretty good!

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Yes, it does.

[@NickBudros]

I could not be more jealous of your range.

[@Ryansrangereport]

I have the Mark 6 on my match rifle. It's a great scope. I did an overview on it and I'm working on part 2 right now. I've used it on targets out to 1100 yards with out any issues.

[@AFMarksman]

When I shot for the USAF Rifle Team, we used the 168 Fed Gold Match back to 600 yes, but we had to shoot the M118LR with 175gr SMK, because the 168 would go sub-sonic before 1000yds and key hole through the target.

[@camk31]

Good shooting. One of the advantages of the bolt rifle is that you can single load a lot easier than you can with a semi-auto rifle. I would take advantage of this. Recoil tends to compact the powder in your rounds if they are in the magazine, this can grow group sizes a bit especially if the loads your using are using stick powders. You may not notice a difference shooting 10 rounds here and 20 rounds there, but over the course of a 1000 rounds of recorded data it does make a difference. Hornaday also makes amazing match ammo. The Federal match is still the best match center-fire ammo I have ever run into but Hornaday is a close second. Black Hills ammo is another excellent ammunition if you can find it. I happen to live in the same town that they produce it in, so it's pretty easy for me to get but I'm not real sure about anywhere outside of South Dakota.

[@proteinshake86]

that group with the REPR was INSANE!

[@TheTacticalHouse]

I just snagged up the same rifle yesterday. Going today for some range time to sight her in. I bought a SWFA SS fixed 10 with Seekin precision rings.

[@wilfredoikle7534]

And the Savage barrels usually take about 500-1000 rounds to get maximum accuracy. My Savage 110 actioned with Adams and Bennett barrel in .35 Whelen shot its first target into a sub MOA group at 100 yds. I hav not had a place to shoot very long ranges with it but I have no fear it will do fine out to 600. Oh, and by the way, that was with 250 gr. Remington green box.

[@gnarshread]

I just stumbled across this channel and I love the way your going about this series. With a mortgage, car insurance, a limited paycheck and the rest of it I have to be very budget conscious about my firearms purchases. I would love to throw cash at a Gucci rifle but that's not going to happen and to be honest I'm not going to spend my life at a range. Its nice to see what a sub $800 rifle can do. Many thanks! Also, ever thought of doing a series where you take an average Joe interested in shooting and build them up into a better shooter. Just thought it might be entertaining.

[@wadolfmunn9264]

5” group at a grand.....Outstanding! I could live with those numbers.....

[@Ryansrangereport]

I took my G2DMR off my rifle, left it in the rings and beat the living snot out of it on a rubber matt in my garage. I was trying to get some dust off of the glass. I figured if it did not come off I did not care how hard I hit it as I would send it in anyway. When I was done, I put it back on the rifle, and it did not move the zero at all. Not even one click was needed. The new Bushnell scopes are tough as they come. I've had 3 and they are beasts. The dust came off the scope in the 2nd shot.

[@WeerdBeard]

Nice seeing the bullets lob down to the plate. Good shooting, and looks like a fun day!

[@mwilson14]

I should be picking up my Savage Model 111 in .300 Win Mag after work today. I'm so pumped.

[@MrZSniper95]

MAC I have the Savage 10-FP LE2 in 308 with the 24 inch barrel and a nikon buckmaster 6-18x40. The whole rifle and scope cost $900 I regularly get 1/4 groups at 100 yards and 2 inch groups at 600. I can't wait to find a 1000 yard range to try it out at.

[@GoreTorn16]

I love how you can see the bullet traveling to the 500 yard target at the end. Great stuff mac!

[@gigidy5]

I bought my father a Savage Model 12 F/TR for his birthday and we mounted a Millett 4-16x50mm on it. (I had run out of money at that point). Pretty soon I want to put a Bushnell HDMR on it. Haven't gotten to take it out to distances above 300 yards yet. But it's promising.

[@BrianS2464]

I was hoping this would show up soon. Great idea for a vid.

[@nilescoyote4829]

Mac, great episode! Couple comments from a fellow Young’s member. The 168 SMK is going to give you problems in a 308 with consistency from one day to the next. Depending on the Barometric Pressure and Temperature of a given day it may or may not work well past the 800 yard line. It’s an issue with how the bullet is designed and how it handles the transition to subsonic flight. The 175 smk works a lot better and handles the transition well. As does many other bullets.

[@Maximus98351]

Wow I've never seen a group like that at 1000yrds with a semi-auto rifle. That is defiantly a group even an experienced sniper would be proud of.

[@rdsii64]

I have a Howa 1500 Varmint supreme mounted in a Bell and Carlson medalist stock. total price including the aftermarket stock was 700 dollars. Add a Vortex Viper 6-24x44 and you are under the $1000.00 mark and it shoots with consistent sub minute precision. I have shot 1000 yard steel with it, and midrange F class.

[@bill65761]

Have a model 10 FPK. It was my first rifle purchase and I didn't know what I was doing ... but I seem to have lucked out. Time to start reloading, though: even the cheap ammo in quantity 1,000 is still pushing a buck a round.

[@sjdedeaux]

I have an older Savage 110 Tactical, and I like that rifle. Mine is a little like yours in what ammo it likes. It's great with 168gr Federal Gold Medal Match. It even likes the Hornady Match ammo in the same weight. I've tried Remington's 168gr match ammo, and it looks like I fired a shotgun pattern.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

It was Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr.

[@vexbomer]

The way they are built really barrell trigger and stock play a big role even the twist in the barrell

[@homelessguy01]

i just picked one of them up aswell, just picked up a 4-16 ior valdada to top it off cant wait to take this baby out!

[@shooter77us]

I have a savage 10FP in .223 with a SWFA ss 12x Mil/Mil scope. Total price for everything including rings and rail is $920 (bought the rifle used) .3 MOA 5 shot groups with the right handload are pretty normal, and it will get out to 800 yards with ease on a 10"x12" plate.

[@LemanRussVanquisher]

Great Video MAC, I have been watching this channel for years and you do some really nice work.

[@useri.d.blocked7911]

My first long range rifle was a Savage model similar to this (no break, different bolt) in 300RUM with an Eagle Optics scope. It took a 2 month, 80 round break-in process for the barrel to get long range ready, as is true with long range rifles.... that was an under 1k gun that easily shot 1000M consistently. 168GR A-max handloads by Kudu Kustoms. Shot approx a 2" group at 780yds to prove the weapon the day I sold it. I hate the ergos, trigger, floppy stock of Savage, but at that pricepoint I've never encountered a more accurate rile.

[@mkay0502]

Thanks for posting Mac. I have a model 11 in .308, and have had almost identical results as you did with 168 grain SMK

[@SirMortog]

I have 2 friends with Savage model 10's (FP and FCP both with 20") and they have the best luck with 180gr bullets. Usually get 1/2-3/4moa with 168gr, and 1/4moa with 180gr bullets.YMMV

[@Flumphinator]

The vapor trail at 7:38 is so freaking cool.

[@Hercules1-v9m]

My Savage 10 FCP-SR will have all rounds touching with basic Winchester 147 grain white box at 100 yards. These are damn fine rifles.

[@valkarcy]

Original American does your fcp-sr have a 5r barrel?

[@charlesmullins3238]

For reference my dd5v3 put 3 inside 3”@520…got a cashew fan of bottlecaps I use for 100yrd targets…put 4 on a 20oz lid.

[@drouleau]

I have a Savage 111 FCNS in 7mm Rem Mag w/ an SWFA 10x42 mil/mil/side focus. It's a great optic for the price - hard to beat, really. That will get you out to 1000 meters reliably and for around $1k (although I am putting a new $1,000 chassis on it soon). I love the Accu-Trigger on mine.

[@LordTimelord]

Good performance from a sub 1K rifle. I also tried to get a setup that was the best bang for the buck. After much research I got my setup. I'm using a F&H FNAR .308 matched with a Leatherwood Hi-Lux Camputer ART M-1000 2.5-10x 44mm Tactical Rifle Scope. With the 168gr Match Kings I can consistently get .50 to .75 MOA groups @ 100 yards. Unfortunately there isn't any ranges in my area that are further out than 200 yards. I would love to stretch it's legs out at longer ranges!

[@GiantDevilDog]

I purchased mine as a Cabelas exclusive and they called it a 10-tactical and it came with that bolt handle.

[@drmaudio]

Great point! For that matter a Bushnell Elite Tactical 10X40 fixed in the mil/mil version is even less and has pretty good glass. I think if your budget demands you choose, it is better to go with mil/mil and good quality glass, rather then spending your money on variable high magnification with lesser quality glass.

[@rdsii64]

Howa 1500 Varmint in .308 Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 optic EGW 20 MOA base Burris Extreme tactical rings B&C medalist stock This is my goto rig for the 1000 yard line.

[@silvermediastudio]

It's the system, and the work done ahead of time. You can't put first-shot cold-bore hits on targets at unknown distances in the 800-1200yard and beyond range, in varied terrain without having worked up the firing tables for the rifle and loads to be used. It's all important when calculating and inputting the firing solution. Often overlooked is the accuracy and repeatability of the scope turrets, absolutely crucial for long range precision.

[@CajCoo]

I have the same exact rifle with a similar scope. I work in a gun shop and often tell people, as they're drooling over mine, "I can get you a 1000 yard rifle for about $1000" Sold!

[@AdversaryOmega]

I got a savage 12 (bull barrel 26in) with the chunk knob bolt handle for $300 on sale. and a $200 monstrum 6-24x56 scope that works well. I plan on up grading the stock and finding a sweet spot load and leave it at that. all in all so far as is. $300 for the rifle, $200 for the scope. $40 for rings and base. $540 altogether. I'll need a custom stock because I have long arms and fingers (34in reach) the stock will probably be at least several hundred dollars.

[@VFRSTREETFIGHTER]

I just looked at The Savage Model 10 at my local gun shop. I was in the market for a long range multi purpose rifle and scope for under $1000. I also looked at a Weatherby Vanguard, Remington 700 and a Tikka T3. I ended up choosing the Tikka due to its amazing fit, finish and feel. I would love if you looked at both the Weatherby and Tikka in this video series.

[@yossilazerson]

WOW! That is crazy! 1000 yards 5in.

[@BigMikesHobbyChannel]

I built my .308 on a savage 10FPSR with a Vortex Viper PST 6-24 MIL FFP scope, Bell and Carlson medalist varmint tactical stock and a custom brake.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Yes, he has. KZbin was giving me fits last night.

[@undergradheretic]

What a grouping! Great video, MAC.

[@YourMilageMayVary]

This is going to be a great series. Thanks MAC!

[@solesearched]

I have a feeling these are going to a AWESOME series of videos!

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I run the 175's for 1000 yards.

[@defibaughjd7]

MAC, you're going to want to go with 175's or 180's for the 1000 yard shot. The wind-bucking is what makes it at that range, and those just do it so much better than the 168's. Love the 10 FCP series though, they're a great bargain. My FCP-HS is a half-MOA rifle at whatever range you'd fancy to shoot.

[@bushjared89]

This cracks me up. I could out shoot this gun all day with a Savage axis and a $100 Tasco or Bushnell scope and a box of Remington Corelokt. Done it many times with my 700 in 270 chambering. All for under $500! Half the price of that. I dunno bout you but if I'm dropin a grand I'm getin.a Bravo AR

[@Militaryarmschannel]

511 makes the jacket and my REPR is Patriot Brown.

[@camrenK1234]

I shoot the same rifle love it I have a bushnell fireflie 4.5×24 amazin gun took out a deer this year a 602 yards dropped him within 50 feet of where he stood

[@yoji58]

Start working with what you have, but longer distances. You have any glass on that rifle? Weaver v7 scope can get you out where you want to be. There's guys out there that can shoot 400 open sights. It's pretty much just for target acquisition/identification. That scope is around 150-180. 5.56 is capable of 600+, for paper punching. Requires better reading of distance/wind, which is good. Learning the basics, saving money. It's a long road to 1000 on a budget.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

No, it's an old Eddie Bauer jacket they no longer make.

[@booleyLOD1]

Actually, my low end .308 is a Savage Axis with a cheap Bushnell 3 - 9 x 42 scope. Shot it for the first time at an outdoor range (max 200 yds) and was surprised how accurate it was. The whole setup cost me only $300.00 new.

[@SimRacing1978]

Great video! Another budget option is Remington 700 long range. I got mine in 7mm rem mag and an swfa ss 10x42. My first bolt action ever I was hitting 1000 yards with easy that's with hunting ammo lol federal power shok 150 grain.

[@mmdogw]

Good video! I like how you said you ran down range as your sitting in a golf cart lol.

[@nilescoyote4829]

Also, you are going to want a 20moa base and maybe even more with a scope having 50 moa of internal travel, a 30 moa base would be better but may not allow you to zero at 100y. Ideally one would want a scope with more internal travel. I’d also recommend against .125 (1/8”) moa adjustments but that just my personal opinion. Again great episode and nice shooting.

[@segua]

Thank you these videos. Builds with a fixed budget are hard to do, and have a large margin of error. This helps tremendously. fixed budget builds on ARs, AKs, Miltary surplus weapons rebuilds would all be great additions as well.

[@Mistershootforfun]

Savage M11 Hog Hunter in 308 goes for about $475, Very good deal!! I love mine!!

[@lundphoto]

Thank you for finally doing more of a 'budget' build. I know you prefer military style builds, but think you've been missing another market area like this build. I've been debating on a Ruger 308 build to play in the 500-1k range, and this will be interesting to compare if you guys do a match build with a Ruger.

[@marktime48]

That vapor trail at 500 yds looks pretty sweet! Can't wait for part 2 to see how the setup does. Great job!

[@ChiquitaSpeaks]

If u get a MDR Desert Tech or a K&M 17s with 18” barrel you get an AR that can shoot .308 in a very compact form factor up to a solid 1000 yards and if you can set it up for full auto you got an all in one rifle right there. Obviously more than $1000 but just an interesting thought

[@johnnyfranklin6229]

Can't wait to see more long range shooting.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

Very good video, well done. I'm a big Savage fan myself. I have one of their Model 12 BVSS rifles in 22-250 Remington for ground hogs/target shooting. Its proven to be one of the most accurate rifles I've had the pleasure of owning. I certainly don't consider myself an expert, but in my opinion if I were trying for 1,000 yards for $1,000, knowing all the awesome rifles Savage offers in the model 10 lineup I would certainly choose one with at least a 24 and preferably a 26 inch barrel. Unless of course you plan to run the suppressor all the time. Just seems like an 18 inch barrel is giving up a lot when the same rifle with a longer barrel can be had for the same or close to the same price. Enjoyed it all the same, looking forward to Part 2.