How Pirates of the Caribbean Became a $140 Million Writing Prompt

[@savagebooks7482]

MAKRE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY NEW BOOKS! IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW! Also, before making this video, I had no idea that POTC was Filmento's bread and butter haha. I kinda hope he sees this now

[@PowerMatrixAnime]

One day he will.

[@wyattrose5511]

I have your book and am currently reading it! And also, another great video as usual! Did not expect to get so motivated to write from a video about randomness lol

[@sim14one]

Don't want to be rude, but it might be a good idea to get a professional cover artist for your books. The graphic is interesting but the font needs some work.

[@denarus3939]

@Savage Books Can I use the text about burring your heart and abusive relations on the begining for a project of mine?

[@wingmanbarkerhere1696]

Eh the tipping of the ship was pretty cool, the wheel was pretty incredible fight scene and pirates republic actually existed back then plus most of this can be excused by the rule of cool

[@keyamazed1038]

I'm most astonished that Davy Jones' CGI stands up to this very day. Even surpasses a lot of CGI done today.

[@alexman378]

Depends what CGI you’re talking about. If we’re talking Steppenwolf from Josstice League, it’s one thing, if we’re talking Thanos, they’re neck to neck. Jones surprisingly still feels like a real actor they casted for this, and not a CGI character.

[@cringyhuman3210]

Even better than thanos cgi

[@cringyhuman3210]

Only a bit better tho

[@alexman378]

@@cringyhuman3210 Equal, maybe, better, no. One of the reasons Davy Jones worked that well, is because he’s very far removed from a human. He’s a humanoid, and that’s easier to bring to life than someone who mostly looks like a human. Thanos is basically a human in his face, you can see pores, hairs, fuzz and little details that we know every man to have. We will never see something like Davy Jones in reality so there is nothing to compare to, but we see someone similar to Thanos every day, and that’s why you can’t say Jones was better.

[@ianmoore-wagner297]

From what I understand from corridor crew, it's all in the lighting. Dark, green scenes, rain and shadow

[@LightYagami_99]

The sheer menacing laugh when he gives when he realizes Will and Elizabeth are in love before stabs will in the heart is great visual story telling and character realization

[@TripleEightss]

one thousand likes and no comments? weird...

[@mrexists5400]

@Benjamin La Salle really really weird

[@johnholland8044]

@@mrexists5400 really really really weird

[@sansastarsa]

@@johnholland8044 really really really really weird

[@MiracleManMax]

@@sansastarsa really really really really really weird.

[@thomasgodridge5945]

Me: "You're mad." Writers of PotC: "Thank goodness for that. 'Cause if I wasn't, this'd probably never work."

[@TheSetkon]

I remember this line being in the trailer and looking back at it this might have been the writers winking at the audience. I was very young back then so I'd gobble up the most ridiculous premises and plots in my movies, but some of the adults must have shook their heads at the time... "East India company tames Jones to wipe out piracy (and likely competition)? Yeah, sure..."

[@jakubrejak1114]

Gore Verbinski: Drink up me hearties, yo ho...

[@thejokesonlife3745]

And that was without even a single drop of rum

[@samkul1699]

Another similar line is the exchange between will and jack while escaping prison where will says "this is either madness or brilliance...and jack replies Its remarkable how often those two traits coincidence."

[@senshi_dev_art]

That sounds like Jack is writting the script

[@wyattrose5511]

Davy Jones is by far, besides the main trio, is the most developed and interesting character in the series. He's a menacing being, and a nearly empathetic villain. His love for Calypso is tragic and heartbreaking, and the scene in the prison was haunting.

[@OperatorError0919]

That implies that the main trio was interesting and developed to begin with, which I'm not sure I agree with. Jack is great, but he's also 100% static from start to finish, and past the first movie, has very little investment in the story other than the things that were slapped together to give him a reason to be there. And as for Will and Elizabeth, I didn't find either of them to be particularly deep or interesting in basically any capacity. Will was the audience stand-in and Elizabeth was a mcguffin in the first movie and The Girl in the sequels, and that's pretty much all that went into either character.

[@standuseroreo3954]

@@OperatorError0919 I love the first 3 movies ( WE DO NOT SPEAK OF THE OTHERS) and I believe Will and Elizabeth were well developed and acted and contained good depth (at least in the first movie). Jack was fine as well but the problem with Jack is he was made to be a side character and being put into the spotlight pushed will and liz to the side and they don’t quite work as those side characters. They should have maintained more status plot wise to make the movies more compelling imo. Still love the movies though

[@Untitled_-_Productions.]

Nearly empathetic? I felt more empathy for him than any other character in the movies. The first time I saw the movies, I cried more when he died that when Will or Jack died

[@jwefpotargent3874]

@@OperatorError0919 I think the main trio was developed very good actually. first of all Elizabeth's whole story is that she is trapped in a cage as a governer's daughter and want's to be free like a pirate. and she want's Will. I kind of agree that after the first movie she has little investment in the story, other than wanting to be with Will. Will's whole deal is to free his father. which is not random or just slapped together because if you remember in the first movie he hates pirates so his whole character arc is accepting that pirates can be good too and ultimately becoming one. So freeing his father is perfect because it symbolizes accepting his own roots. (there is a kind of similarity with pinokio actually where pinokio needs to go free his father out of the belly of the whale, which I won't go into). Than Jack's whole deal is that he want's to be a pirate forever, he want's to be free so he thinks he want's to kill davy Jones by stabbing his heart but is also afraid because he sees what davy jones has become and doesn't want to end up like that. Because stabbing the heart means roaming the seas forever but then he is also bound to the curse of the flying dutchman which means not being free. So that's why he is all confused and doesn't know what he wants. soooo... JACK is the ultimate example of a pirate (which in this glorified disney version means being a free man), Will is the guy who learns about the pirates together with the audience like you said and he learns that there can be good in them too. And Elizabeth is well... they kind of gave her this queen of the pirates character in the end of the third movie which I agree was kind of random. But too say that they are not deep or interesting...you should watch the movies again. And Jack isn't static at all I think, in the end he gives up his only chance at living eternally by saving Will. He acts selflessly and does the right thing.

[@nato.8169]

@@jwefpotargent3874 I love what you said about jack making that choice, that is the point where we see his vulnerability the most and it’s really the only time where he makes a decision solely for someone else. It’s also fitting that it happens in the third movie. (We don’t talk about those other 2)

[@FluffiBois]

I think overall the writing behind Davy Jones and his whole concept really shows the strength of having a central theme, whatever it may be. While Davy Jones, the Flying Dutchman and the Kraken are not related in any way, their shared relation makes it all believable. Not to mention when it comes to the pirate setting, not many are likely going to know that all these things are simply stitched together. Even if it was all just thrown together, its central theme of the ocean's depths made it easy to understand and enjoyable to watch.

[@thedinosaurdiscovery]

This is why the second pirates movie is the best

[@ianbyrne465]

And it makes sense. Ocean devil man having a crew made of dead sailors and an evil ship makes sense, him having control over a giant sea creature makes sense. It all blends in a really surprisingly nice way

[@IIPlayer15II]

@@ianbyrne465 And it gets more interesting when it's revealed or at least implied he's just supposed to be the ferryman, not the devil.

[@HOLDENPOPE]

@@shortkyuu7390 If you ask Filmento, he'd say it has a truly incredible final battle

[@simonholmqvist8017]

@@IIPlayer15II Ye, exactly

[@fishinabagC3]

Great critique. The only thing I disagree with here is the use of “random.” They pulled directly from sea faring/pirate mythology. As far as I can tell each choice has been inspired, given the large catalog to draw from (of which we subsequently get in the later, distinctly uninspired sequels). As you mentioned, they looked at what the first movie was and boiled it down to its elements I.e. cursed gold, a crew of the damned, bigger than life characters; and crafted another plot in the same manner. The Dutchman, kraken, dead mans chest etc. aren’t superficial elements, their important to the narrative. Love, fate, and ambition are reoccurring themes in the films and I think the bold mythological elements they adapted are fairly intentional. One mans opinion. Thanks for the thought provoking vid!

[@Skelly-yl3js]

I agree with you so much! I mean some things seem random but that’s in every movie, the reason we have a movie is because of the random things.

[@LePromisedPrince]

The first movie’s setting was done after Sparrow’s mutiny to because the writing room didn’t want to do another pirate mutiny story.

[@Katpiratefan275]

I honestly wouldn't mind, if Jones is going to be brought back by some BS means, at least scrap all the main characters and bring in a fresh cast, Depp just makes a cameo, but a new adventure, no mythical treasure (the Trident should have been in the Mediterranean, not the Caribbean anyways), but a choice to make a deal that seemed beneficial at the time comes back to bite him with Jones. Just, dump Depp altogether, please

[@Katpiratefan275]

@Raspian Kiado Because Posiden is a Greek Myth, along with his Trident. So I felt it was very out of place in the Caribbean when it would have made more sense to have it in the Mediterranean. Also, having all curses attached to it.... now the writers are just pulling s*** out of their a***s

[@mortache]

@@Katpiratefan275 did Greeks believe that Poseidon only has power over their little pond? Or did he command all of the sea?

[@Tutorial7a]

For stories, there's no such thing as a bad idea, only a bad execution. There are ideas that are easier than others, and ideas that are harder. There are ideas that seem inherently incredible but are wrong for your story. There are ideas that seem inherently stupid that will make your story a masterpiece. Find a way to make the dumbest thing you can think of into the best thing you've ever seen. How else would we have Star Wars, a film about dogs and wizards flying spaceships shaped like hamburgers? How else would we have the Lord of the Rings, a story about destroying jewelry in a volcano with the help of talking trees and very hungry little people? How else would we have Super Mario, a story-ish thing about an Italian plumber who eats mushrooms to destroy an evil fire-breathing turtle? How else would we have even the eldest stories of Gilgamesh? Beowulf? All the way down to the absurdities of Spongebob and Gravity Falls? The "dumbest" ideas, the most random, are also the ones nobody else has tried yet. It's just a matter of making it into something people will actually care about.

[@Olivia_Dreamrider]

Excellent way of putting that.

[@wd3185]

I love that. "There's no such thing as a bad idea, only a bad execution." I love that way of thinking.

[@gianlucacolangelo6578]

"There are no bad ideas" Cuties: Hey~

[@vincegalila7211]

@@gianlucacolangelo6578 couldn't you just change the Dance?

[@gianlucacolangelo6578]

@@vincegalila7211 now that I think about it... Yes

[@ttd0000]

"... Elizabeth pining for Jack..." Do you mean Elizabeth using Jack's obvious feelings for her to use him to get to Will, then weaponizing those feelings to kill him, and finally becoming so guilt-ridden over it that she commits completely to traveling to Hell in order to raise the dead?

[@midnight.tantrum727]

THANK YOU ! she didn’t have feeling for him she used /his/ feelings for /her/ against him

[@tripleaarcade]

If anything, she looked like she was pining for barbosa

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

@Triple A Arcade I rewatched a couple of the films last night and said the same! When he takes command of the Black Pearl for the maelstrom battle, she gives him a look that's half wonder, half horny.

[@jayjohnscreations]

Well it wasn't pining, but Dead Man's Chest has an odd subplot where she seems to have a growing crush on Jack. It's there I swear

[@cussundriakneal9904]

@@jayjohnscreations I wouldn't say a crush - that's what her and Will had in the Black Pearl. The subplot was Elizabeth's growing attraction to Jack. But, just because you want to get in someone's pants doesn't mean you want to BE with them.

[@hollandscottthomas]

"We need a ship." *googles spooky ships* "Sure, that'll do."

[@maciejbzura9057]

Hahaha this comment made my day lmao

[@Yal_Rathol]

if you actually google "spooky ships", the wikipedia article for ghost ships comes up. the first ship mentioned on there? the flying dutchman. yeah, that'll be exactly what they did.

[@hollandscottthomas]

@@Yal_Rathol Thank you for your research XD

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

That’ll do donkey

[@thecianinator]

@@Yal_Rathol I don't think Wikipedia existed when they wrote these movies

[@Panteni87]

The best thing about creating a world? If you think of something that is too "fantastical" to be in your world, make a short story out of it, and put it in the world as internal folklore/myth/stories. I love writing stories within the stories, creating mythologies for characters that lived millenia before it. Honestly, incorporating the fantastical into the grounded in a realistic way is one of my favorite things. A man defeated a lion with his bear hands a few millenia ago? He is now known as a demi-god that had to kill a special and fantastical lion in order to be accepted by the gods. (my favorite origin theory for one of the labors of hercules) Not only does this make your world sound more alive, it gives you freedom to go crazy even when your world is bound by rules.

[@jackpollard550]

Creating religions and cultures and whatnot outside the main story is just so much fun. It’s content that may never leave your desk, but it’s just fun to write.

[@AK-Drakoin]

Tolkien is the greatest example of this :)

[@BunsGlazing768]

Well, he had bear hands instead of human hands. So he must have been a LITTLE bit special ;D

[@Breidablik06]

@@AK-Drakoin I mean, the man made a dozen languages and basically the Bible for his world

[@ViridianForests]

The best part is that since all these stories are an absurdly long game of telephone with people around the fire potentially being drunk and wanting to exaggerate their tales, it could really have originated as "some dude killed a dangerous lion everyone was scared of". How he killed it gets warped, why the lion was dangerous gets warped, the original dude gets essentially deified by people telling his story long after he's dead and the monster gets worse and worse with each retelling. Worlds with stories are very fun! We tell ourselves so many stories, it makes sense that the worlds we create would do the same.

[@burnish8670]

Bill Nighy is completely brilliant. He's part of the reason Davy is so compelling

[@PillowMane]

Watching him without the CGI is remarkable. He was so immersed in the role.

[@austoful]

"her image is of a crab which is linked to the ocean" not at all, lol. Calypso was the Nymph that lured Odysseus to her island. She is an allegory for the life of a sailor, Odysseus loved calypso but he had to forsake her to return to his wife and life on the land. Also there is the great link because Calypso offered Odysseus immortality if he would stay with her, but he could not because his honor and oath was more important to him than immortality and pleasure.

[@marseldagistani1989]

So in this case Davy is Odysseus?

[@ZyroShadowPony]

@@marseldagistani1989 an Odysseus who did leave his wife and old life maybe

[@festethephule7553]

Also he loved his wife. I feel as though that's an important detail.

[@vincegalila7211]

@@festethephule7553 enough to murder all of her suitors and slaves when he got back.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

not to mention as well, in many of the later famous adaptations of the legend of the Flying Dutchman, the actual captain does have a love life issues and a once every ten years limit on his shore time.

[@candidlyopinionated19]

How these movies managed to be as good as they are is a testament to the talent of those who made them. I only hope to be able to come up with something that amazing out of a few spitball ideas and images some day. Of course, having acting powerhouses like Johnny Depp and Bill Nighy helps.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Don't forget Geoffrey Rush. His Barbossa was something special. One of the writers talked about Rush at length when asked about him in some interview. Apparently Geoffrey Rush was calling him at all random hours, even like 3 in the morning about ideas for the character and talking about dialogue and did his own research on Pirates and stuff and relayed all that back to the writers. Geoffrey Rush really went all out.

[@Falllll]

@@TheGeorgeD13 He's absolutely brilliant in everything I've ever seen him in.

[@empatheticrambo4890]

I feel like I’d rather use the word “integrated”’rather than “random” for the creation of Davy Jones. Maybe I’m misunderstanding the reality of maritime legends, but it seems like they took real legends or maritime fears and integrated them with the things they created, rather than just coming up with random things. I don’t mean to undercut your point about creativity and writing. It’s a really good point I want to take to heart, and clearly the Davy Jones creative team took to heart the idea of mixing varied concepts and legends even if they seemed incongruous. I learned a lot about that in this video, I’d always assumed it was a real legend. I think it gets a lot of believability by pulling from real myths, as ridiculous as the world building is otherwise.

[@ThrottleKitty]

I think Amalgamated would be the best term. The things aren't random, they all have connections to the ocean. Calypso and the heart being cut out do get a little on the random side though.

[@CMTechnica]

Well, Davy Jones and the Locker, the Dutchman, and the chest are all tied to pirates and or seafaring legends. Random isn't really the right word

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@ThrottleKitty But it works for Calypso as she's apart of a sea island and the heart being cut out isn't 'Random", it's a new idea for the character's concept.

[@joshuab4586]

For being an early 2000s series, I always liked how their special effects looked, the skeletons in the first movie looked amazing, Davy Jones looks like an actual living creature; better than most movies can do nowadays.

[@MrThebeast115]

I know Pirates gets a bad rap, but I really do enjoy the series. They make my simple minded brain go brrrrrrrr

[@thedinosaurdiscovery]

The first 3 are pretty solid

[@goblinsuburb]

it’s literally my favorite film series idk why it’s just so fun to watch

[@nato.8169]

@@goblinsuburb same, I could watch these movies and never get tired, cause they’re just dripping with atmosphere, and personality, something is actually pretty hard to come by in modern cinema. The first three a great, but the other 2 I pretend don’t exist

[@trackerbuckmann1627]

It's pirate's. The only thing better would be dinosaurs.

[@thedinosaurdiscovery]

@@trackerbuckmann1627 F A C T S

[@BlueRam1409]

Thanos: "Reality is whatever I make it." A Writer: "First time?"

[@LightYagami_99]

There are some parallels with thanos and Davy Jones ironically

[@watersheep7175]

@@LightYagami_99 i think thanos is a mix of Barbosa davy Jones and blackbeard

[@brendenchristensen6511]

You: Davy Jones is a well written villain with a complicated backstory, and is a great stand in for the difficult to understand phenomenon that is relationship and betrayal. Me: Haha Squid man

[@user-nw4kc9ug3n]

haha squid man go blub

[@jonahw6002]

Ha! You afraid to get wet?

[@Forever.88]

Javier Bardeem: YAGS PARROOOO

[@johngreen8344]

I wonder if he's the reason I love Korosensei so much..

[@lordindustrous4971]

I'm insulted

[@Starwarsdude8221991]

I never understood the hate behind the second and third Pirates movie

[@adsfornothing3146]

Look at the actual fandom. There is no hate. These movies are wonderful (the first is still better but....yeah y'know what I'm trying to say

[@creepyjesus1471]

Not as clever or nuanced as #1. Also Jack's character (or Johnny Depp's acting) has a half life. Davy Jones is 10/10 though and carries #2 and #3

[@philsburydoboy]

@@creepyjesus1471 Johnny Depp's acting didn't improve, but I'd argue Jack's writing got better in some ways and worse in others. He actually had a character arc in the second and third movies, changing from totally selfish into being a sort of hero (everyone seems to miss that, but it is what it is). They did write him to be a bit less clever and a bit more ridiculous, but it didn't get out of control until after the third movie.

[@rahulmenon9530]

The first three movies are genuis

[@zachary4670]

They’re a lot better than people give them credit for.

[@jaybonn5973]

The Pirates trilogy really had an affect on people this is the 7th video essay I've found in the past week.

[@thedumbdog1964]

Share the booty with us, shipmate

[@nato.8169]

People are starting to realize that those first three films were actually better than they got credit for. Pirates has had a bad rap the past decade due to too many bad sequels, most people just remember the first one. But now it seems some people are giving 2 and 3 the respect they deserve

[@jandcstopmotion7774]

@@nato.8169 1 is really good and 2 is also good but it ends on a cliffhanger and 3 is pretty bad.

[@thelastcrow5660]

@@nato.8169 Tushe

[@thelastcrow5660]

@@jandcstopmotion7774 A movie you can't understand isn't instantly bad.

[@bencushwa8902]

Nailed it. Davey Jones was the best-written part of Pirates 2 & 3...even if it was apparently by accident. For me personally, the biggest writing letdown of the Pirates trilogy was the fact that they hinted at the origin of Jack and the Black Pearl (i.e. that he was hauling slaves for the EITC but set them free) but didn't expand on that at all. Such a lost opportunity.

[@RacingSnails64]

I think the fact that that's Jack's backstory alone is super dope. Idk what more they could've done with it, but they at least should've kept the deleted scene where he and Cutler Becket bring it up in the final cut.

[@averageperson4388]

It would have added so much to his character. It would show how every time he helps people, he always get screwed over in the end. Sets a bunch of slaves free? Gets branded a pirate. Returns to his ship to save those who he cares about most? Gets left behind to be eaten by the Kraken.

[@rehanrather2715]

It wasn't accident. I don't like how its framed in the video here. Yes, much like the original "ride" being its basis, there are many random elements they seem to draw from, but they are VERY purposefully stitched.

[@yoonahkang7384]

all of Jack past is a lost opportunity. i would say they should make another one but disney fcked it up

[@josephjarosch8739]

So, basically, they threw together a whole bunch of odds and ends of lore that were totally unrelated to each other, but the individual parts were so obscure that everyone *assumed* that they were supposed to go together, and so kind of just.. took it in stride. Kind of genius, actually.

[@digitalgloop12]

More like they threw together a bunch of odds and ends of lore and myth that are culturally unrelated, but share a relation to the ocean and seafaring to create an amalgamation that turned out to be a well written and developed villain character.

[@Yal_Rathol]

do something with enough confidence and most people will just fall in line.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@Yal_Rathol It's all a matter of execution and it works here.

[@KimonFrousios]

1] They are all bits sailor-related lore, which makes them anything but random, and they are certainly not that obscure at all. Using familiar lore makes it all actually easier to follow and means fewer things need to be explained to the audience. 2] It is neither the first nor the last story to mash together things from different origins. We're used to it, we accept it, we enjoy the re-interpretation. 3] It's a phantasy movie not a documentary about the mythologies, so it doesn't matter if lore is used loosely.

[@poyloos4834]

Idk, I don’t think you’re giving the series enough credit in how smart it was written

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

@Nick Almer - Agreed.

[@Ignasimp]

Complitelly agree.

[@laurenbi]

Yeah this whole video is a huge backhanded compliment lol

[@wills1110]

Such a good series, right next to star wars for me

[@FellishBeast]

The first three stand out as some of the most interesting dialogue and characters in film for me. There is unmistakable talent there and I hate to see people wrongfully disparage it. Yes, it is also silly.

[@hyperbomb02]

The entirety of the Pirates of the Caribbean series is just unintentional genius. Kind of an example that having the right people at the right time in the right places can bottle lightning. More so than a happy accident, it shows the strength of individual talent.

[@morphor]

two words: Monkey Island

[@sirdurtle9519]

1. Davy 2. Jones 3. Barbossa 4. Barbossa It's literally impossible for me to agree more with this list.

[@pierrebegley2746]

The best part of the 2nd and 3rd movies. And the best part of the 1st movie. Yep. Seems about right lol.

[@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet]

Same, he’s so correct

[@qtYuppt]

it's more possible for me cus cap'n jack sparrow is missing

[@BootlegBird]

Everything you mentioned here is just evidence of the process of writing. Working off of prompts, choosing from concept art, tying together ideas that weren't previously related in a way that makes it seem organic is just good writing. To ignore these very basic techniques and strain yourself to produce an idea from nothing, that would be random. What these writers did, unsurprisingly, was write.

[@tuckinatorinator787]

This is just a testament to what writing truly is. Writing is lying with confidence, if you can smack random ideas together, use things that have no basis in reality and convince people that all of this works then you are a good writer.

[@depressedvillainobsession2771]

“Your son was fortunate enough to find a ship, yet not quite fortunate as to find land. Ha, ha” I don’t know why this gets me every time 🤣🤣🤣

[@logan5818]

A fun bit of background on the CGI side of Davy Jones, they got the speckled appearance of his octopus parts from one of the artists noticing a stained styrofoam coffee cup in the trash looked "neat", so they took some pictures of the cup and recreated that stain pattern and texture as part of his texture to give it a bit more grit and roughness than just a clean slimy octopus would have. Every detail of the finished design is the result of throwing random ideas at the wall and seeing what looks good, right from the early stages you mentioned to the finishing touches. It's pretty amazing.

[@BingBangPoe]

Davy Jones is amazing. Bill Nighy completely _nails_ the role even when covered with CGI. The motion capture was flawless and kept all the quirks of his acting perfectly. He definitely steals every single scene he is in.

[@gurthangorcus]

Your description of Davy Jones story strongly reminded me of Anakin Skywalker and his fall into Darth Vader. Here's a crazy thought - imagine if star wars episode 2 and 3 told that story as well as Pirates of the Caribbean... I didn't start the day thinking I'd write that sentence

[@mp7scarh]

I’ve always said Jones is a Vader level villain if not better

[@222LoneWolf]

What I find really fascinating about Bill Nighy's performance is how well his strange, exaggerated facial movements and vocal inflections still work even without the cgi. At first glance, it seems that he is just exaggerating his movements so that they transfer better to the animated model, but they really add something to the intense, psychotic rage that drives the character.

[@vasilisapupkina4818]

When I was 12 years old, i watched „Dead Man‘s Chest“, and had to wait a year for „At World‘s End“. That time I figured out myself that Davy Jones wasn‘t a soulless monster but there was more than enough human in him. This realisation blew my mind, and when later all my „fan theories“ were confirmed in the third film, that blew my mind even more. So, PotC and Davy Jones kind of inspired my interest for media analysis and storytelling mechanics. Thank you for this video, it was a delight to watch and see that this character finally gets a validation that he deserves. Sorry for my English, it‘s not my first language.

[@philsburydoboy]

Your English is better than most of the Americans I grew up around. Your use of quotations was a little odd, but don't worry about it. Incorrect: ,,Something someone said" Correct: "Something someone said"

[@Joenah5]

The Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy is so underrated. Sure, CotBP is looked upon favorably, but DMC and AWE are just as great, if not better.

[@Account.for.Comment]

Those two films had scenes that are better in term of dark tones and pirate mythologies but overall are not as a solid good one as the first. The morality of the characters shifted by convenience of the scenes. So did their abilities. Elizabeth give a morale boosting speech to rapists and murderers to protect their lifestyles of raping and murdering just a cheery on top. Suddenly, this rich girl got this leadership ability, swordfighting skills and etc. In the first one, the royal navy is at least more ethical than the pirates. Why the East Indian Trading Company is worse than the pirates were never mentioned. Overall, there are too many holes to be poke.

[@diromiz]

@@Account.for.Comment Elizabeth tried to give a motivational speech in the first movie too... She was like 'THE CODE??? THEY'RE MORE LIKE GUIDELINES ANYWAY WE GOTTA SAVE WILL!! WHO'S WITH ME!!!??" and no one was with her. Then, in the third movie, she gave a speech and EVERYONE cheered. Meaning she got better at it. I think it's called character development.

[@Account.for.Comment]

@@diromiz More like convenience. She' s been giving speeches to pirates througout the third movie. Before the final one, it always ended up with a look of "Is this rich bitch crazy? We' re pirares, nobody ever gives a shit about this freedom stuff. She' s been listening to too many stories". The speech she made last, it is the most eloquent she made because it sound like a prepared speech. Frankly, it is the same as all others.

[@maxxdoutt3585]

I’m honestly shocked now that I think about it. After the Aquaman breakdown, these movies should’ve been the first thing to come to mind for mindless fun in need of a closer look. And yeah, 100 percent the one thing I always look back at as being great in these movies was Davy Jones. Also on a more direct note, why do I feel like the “final thought” of this video was aimed specifically at me? lol

[@savagebooks7482]

Haha maybe you are paranoid ;)

[@Kelis98]

Dead Man’s Chest and At Worlds End isn’t just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. It’s not all nonsensical and random, and even when it is, it’s not bad, it’s fun. The other storylines aren’t bad. It’s all neat/good stuff. Though I agree that Davy Jones is one of the best parts of the series.

[@5omewhiteguy211]

I swear, Mr. Books. Every single time I see one of your character insight videos pop up in my feed, my brain goes "wow, I LOVE that character. Let me know WHY that's justified."

[@19k92]

the magic of art is linking things in new and interesting ways and make it work. i think it's insane how they made all these crazy things work together so well for pirates 2 and 3. lots of franchises don't even manage to do that for a standalone movie. also, i think they came up with the calpyso thing because it's not just a greek water nymph from the odyssey, but also a really cool (black) music subculture from the caribbean and so it kinda worked to recontextualize the voodoo witch character they had established in pirates 2.

[@mrreyes5004]

6:27 Heavily disagree. Jack's internal struggle felt just as real, if not more so, than Jones', mostly because we actually _see_ his story as opposed to just being told Jones' backstory. The entire crux of his conflict with Jones is him not wanting to die by climbing and stepping over others no matter how helpful they've been for him and, by the third movie, ultimately desiring Jones' immortality for himself even at the cost of his allies' lives. As opposed to Will and Elizabeth's heroism, Jack has been marked by being self-serving throughout the trilogy. Even as far back as the first film, he only agrees to help Will rescue Elizabeth (an innocent bystander) due to wanting vengeance on Barbossa and reclaiming the Black Pearl, and manipulates Will and other characters to get what he wants. Even after Elizabeth risked her neck to save his life from the gallows in the first film (and being explicitly told as much by Will, who _also_ saved his life at the end of the first film), Jack selfishly puts off giving Beckett his compass in favor of seeking Davy Jones' heart to get out of being forced to serve the rest of his life aboard the Dutchman (a deal Jack also selfishly got himself into when he traded the Black Pearl being raised from the ocean depths and captaining her for 13 years in exchange for joining Jones' crew). However, despite all his confident manipulations, Jack realizes he internally has moral quandaries, and he realistically fights himself over whether to only serve himself or aid those around him who have been caught up in his mess (something Gibbs, an ever-loyal ally of his, notes multiple times), culminating in him going back to the Black Pearl when the Kraken attacked it when he previously escaped to save his own skin. However, Jack's internal struggle isn't over yet, which is actually good since people don't just change overnight. In the third movie, Jack still has conflicts with himself over doing the right thing, highlighted by his repeated talks with his hallucinated other selves as he refuses to fully cooperate with the other pirates in a united front against Jones and Beckett. This continued struggle actually makes sense. Despite having gone back to help the others in the previous film, it's still undeniable that doing so _literally got killed_ and is the reason he was stuck in Davy Jones' Locker to begin with, so of course the thought of completely throwing away his self-serving attitude doesn't come to pass and instead distrusts his own rescuers with a treacherous perspective. This is only heightened by the revelation that whoever stabs Jones' heart gains his immortality, and since escaping death has been Jack's number one goal for all the movies so far, his past attitude rears its ugly head when he helps Will sabotage the pirates' efforts by sending Beckett the compass to let him find the Brethren Court and make a deal with Beckett to once again save himself while everyone else would be killed by the armada's cannons. While Will is also sabotaging the pirates' side, he's doing so with selfless motivations - he wants to stab Jones' heart purely to free his cursed father and views the Dutchman's immortality as a curse - whereas Jack's intentions are still purely to help himself at the cost of literally everyone else getting screwed over. Heck, Jack helping Elizabeth to get the Pirate Lords to fight was in fact a ploy to get the last remaining pirate fleet onto the open ocean and spare Beckett the trouble of laying siege to Shipwreck Cove's fortress defenses as part of his secret deal with Beckett. This is why Jack's final meeting with his hallucinated selves in the brig of the Dutchman is one of my favorite scenes, because it's a culmination of Jack's internal struggle so far; he's now _so_ close to Jones' heart and stabbing it, but as he's bickering with his clones who mock him for being so close yet so far, he's suddenly confronted with a disturbing version of himself who has merged with the Dutchman's sea life and literally emerged from the woodwork of the Dutchman's walls. If one looks closely, Jack actually looks disgusted and even terrified by the Dutchman-ified version of himself who creepily orders Jack to just stab the heart and captain the Dutchman for eternity. Even the comedic music abruptly stops and takes on a creepier tone, and even though its gets comedic again later on, we're still put off and disturbed by the version of Jack who has joined the Dutchman as he casually rips his own brain off and shows how disfigured and merged with sea life he's become due to the Dutchman's immortality. This brief little scene with the Dutchman version of Jack is literally Jack glimpsing what he'll become if he actually succeeds in becoming immortal captain of the Dutchman, and he clearly does not like it. Still, he's come too far now and he doesn't feel there's any other recourse, so he proceeds with escaping the brig and locating the chest while his allies take care of the Dutchman's crew. All of this setup is why it's Jack who has the ultimate showdown with Jones atop the mast in the legendary maelstrom; sure, Will and Elizabeth briefly fight Jones, but it's Jack who has the climactic swordfight with Jones over the chest. Really, Jones is who Jack thinks he wants to be - free to sail the seas, able to live forever and do what he wants - but Jack's talk with his Dutchman self and his other hallucinated selves along with Will previously reminding him of the price of captaining the Dutchman (only going on land once every ten years) chips away at his committment to get Jones' position. In fact, _Jack's entire iconic fight against Jones on the Dutchman could be an allegory with Jack's struggles to escape death itself;_ in the beginning, Jack actually puts up a good fight, even disarming him of his sword and tricking Jones into revealing where he keeps the key on him to chop off the tentacle holding it. However, then Jones rebounds and disarms Jack of _his_ blade and forces Jack off the mast first. From there, Jack still manages to give Jones a hard time by improvising different tactics and ideas, but ultimately all these measures are temporary and inevitably cast aside by Jones' immortal powers (phasing through the wheel Jack ran around, having endless stamina to run and fight with, using his unkillable state and superhuman strength to knock aside the piece of wood), and almost knocks Jack out before Elizabeth and Will arrive to take on Jones themselves while Jack goes for the key with Jones distracted. The whole fight, Jack's skill and determination puts up a strong struggle and improvises ways to stay ahead even when his main weapons are countered, but ultimately Jones (death) is only one step behind him and Jack is only given the opportunity to get the advantage when his friends (Will and Elizabeth) arrive to distract Jones from him while he gets the heart. _All of this_ comes to a head when Jones, seeing the love between Will and Elizabeth and bitterly reminded of his own history with Calypso, fatally stabs Will - one of Jack's oldest friends - out of pure spite when Jack threatens to stab his heart. Jack was so utterly triumphant when he held a knife over Jones' bare heart; after spending so long being chased and terrified by Jones, he finally stood completely victorious over Davy Jones, and by extension, death itself... until Jones calls his bluff by attacking Jack where it hurts him more than he'd want to admit; friends like Will Turner. It's obvious Jack is horrified, because for as much as he's manipulated and used good-hearted friends like Will and Elizabeth and put himself before others, he can't lie to himself that he genuinely cares about them and can't completely be at peace with it. When Bill distracts Jones in a brief fight, Jack initially tries to steel himself to stab the heart and kill Jones and get his immortality, but then he stops when he hears and sees Elizabeth desperately trying to keep Will from passing. In that moment, Jack finally puts himself second - giving up immortality and perpetually evading death when he had become _so close_ - to instead allow Will to stab the heart, finally killing Jones and letting one of his best friends live. He rescues Elizabeth and ends up finally siding with his allies against the armada, shoving his deal with Beckett aside even before knowing Beckett betrayed the deal and is the first one who personally gives the order to fire on Beckett and send him and his ship to the depths.

[@mrreyes5004]

*_TL;DR_* Jack's journey was actually well-written and realistically had ups and downs rather than a straight linear path from selfishness to righteousness. He slowly goes from only serving himself and seeking immortality to realizing his friends and allies are more important and sacrifices the immortality he's been fighting entire movies for to allow said friends to live on instead, and the moment he gives up the heart for Will - his best friend - feels earned and epic. Jones' story is great, don't get me wrong, but in the end he's still killed and tossed to the depths without redemption (and in fact his lashing out in rage from his sorrow is _exactly_ what gets him killed, as his choice to fatally stab Will due to being reminded of his love with Calypso (and to spite Jack) is precisely why Jack lets Will stab his heart) and without any remorse from the heroes. As tragic as Jones' past is, I felt no sorrow at seeing him tumble back down into the maelstrom's abyss since his last moments were spent lashing out at others in spite (Will, Bootstrap, Jack) like he'd done his entire appearance rather than ever learning or growing to move beyond his past, whereas Jack _did_ grow much over the movies and selflessly gave up the immortality he'd been stepping on others for the whole time for the sake of the people he grew to befriend and care about, remembering his own father Teague's words that the trick is not to live forever but rather to live _with himsef_ and his actions forever. While never explicit, Jack also does seem to eventually forgive Elizabeth for leaving him to the Kraken (accepting that he got himself into that entire mess to begin with by making that deal with Jones 13 years earlier) and is the last of the Black Pearl's crew who happily sees her off at the end with a good-hearted exchange as friends and remains happy for her and Will. The fact that we're just told Jones' backstory and only see the result keeps it from being truly great (show, don't tell) whereas we _completely_ see Jack's entire story rather than just the effect it had on him like Jones' story (we don't actually see Jones' past with Calypso, just exposition of it; flashbacks would've made it so much better, but no, there were none). Jack's story isn't too special, either, I will admit, but it's definitely a pirate's life worth praise.

[@Joe__M]

man just make a video essay at this point

[@kirishima.nue13]

People must've also forgotten why Jack was branded a Pirate by the EITC and the history between him and Beckett, and hell, even on the 2nd and 3rd movie it already shows the root of his morality. But can you live with it? That was mentioned by Jones and Teague. First was when he sent will to the dutchman and the second when Jack was talking to his father.

[@snakezase2998]

Jack stuck a deal with Davy Jones after his ship was sunk by Beckett because jack freed slaves that where being transported by the east India trading company his one good deed condemned him to a life of piracy and servitude on the Dutchman

[@muggsysfilmreviews190]

@mrreyes5004 Spit yo shit man

[@YTEdy]

I remember an interview of Keira Knightley. She didn't tell any of her friends she was in this movie because she, like all the others, was convinced it would be a flop.

[@mirtexxan]

The whole "heart in a box" thing is borrowed from the myth of Baba Yaga. It's not a writers' original creation at all XD

[@Olivia_Dreamrider]

I never knew Baba Yagas had a cut out heart. Learn something new everyday, thank you!

[@FirstNameLastName-lk3ng]

I grew up with Russian folklore/children's tales, and I've never heard of Baba Yaga having a heart in a box. Koschei the Immortal has the needle that is tied to his life force locked away in a chest, and there are versions of the tale where Baba Yaga tells the protagonist where to find the chest. Do you have a source for your information?

[@friendoftheoyster3906]

Her house had chicken feet, chickens need water, water is in the ocean, Davy jones is in the ocean... Baba Yaga = Davvy Jones

[@zachary4670]

Honestly, using this kind of logic means nothing is original...

[@TheUncouthGentleman]

The crew of Pirates' Flying Dutchman always reminded me of the stuff at the bottom of the sink when you don't clean it out.

[@mouta8603]

I don't understand how you say that The Brethren Court is a random plotline when their existance is directly connected to Davy Jones origins, the character that you hailed as one of the best parts of the movies (2 &3). And his decision to help the first Brethren Court to imprison Calypso is also what sets in motion a lot of the plotlines that happens several years later in this trilogy. Is it not Barbossa on a mission by Calypso that is tasked to gather all Pirate Lords for the court? The other scenes are also not random but have deeper meaning that can be understood if you wanna dive deeper into the characters. Some examples: Jack had started making his moves against Davy Jones already when he searched for the key in Dead Mans chest but didn't know what he really wanted after going out of the prison and couldn't use the compass. He had conflicting feelings because: 1. He had feelings for Elizabeth that he didn't know if he could/wanted to act upon. 2. He wanted to find the chest so he could use it to gain freedom of the deal he made with Davy. After he gets the mark from Bill Turner he flees to nearest land and meets the cannibals. It might be random that they see him as a God etc but him being there is not random at all. And him being the God while the rest of the crew is imprisoned fits nicely into the character Jack Sparrow that always seems to get in to and out of situations that other deem as impossible. Elizabeth going after Will also fits nicely into her character and we already saw in the first movie that she wasn't the stereotypical damsel in distress just waiting to be saved but was capable of doing her own decisions and plays to get what she wanted. One example is her being the only one wanting to go in after Will and Jack to Isla de Muerta while the rest of the Black Pearls crew chose to flee after being released. Another is her whole storyline to choose her own suitor and not go with what fitted best to a woman of her stature. I feel like the storyline of all main characters in especially the third movie if heavily underrated. They are all following the larger tides of what's happening in the world ( Cutler Beckett gaining control of the sea, Calypso trying to break free) while also chasing their own selfish motives which leads to a lot of betrayals and going their own ways. This leads to a lot of twists in the movies which ultimately all comes down to an epic showdown with the very good written villan, Davy Jones.

[@justin3ea5t38]

"Burying a broken heart does not heal it" Damn

[@jessecortez9449]

"10 years I devoted to the duty you charged me. 10 years I looked after those who died at sea. And finally when we could be together again, you weren't there. Why weren't you there?" - Davy Jones "It's my nature. Would you love me if I was anything but what I am?" - Calypso "I do not love you." - Davy Jones *moments later* "My heart will always belong to you." - Davy Jones whispers This brief scene perfectly encapsulates a relationship that was doomed to pain from the beginning but you so desperately want to succeed because of how relatable it is.

[@elitilton7015]

Honestly the mash up of a bunch of old myths and sailor’s stories is part of what I love about the pirates movies. Yeah, it can feel random at times but that’s super fun. The first three movies are just so delightfully over the top and obviously just playing to the pirate archetype but I love that.

[@thusadragon]

"Jones could have very easily just been an evil, ugly sea orc with a literal hell crew." For some reason, this line made me crack up. Excellent video!

[@alexkay6676]

The way you describe how they made and stitched together Davy Jones' character and passed it off as "It's been like this all along,"... that happens with every movie. Maybe not EVERY movie, but most. The beginning product of a script is generally very different from the finished product. So, all you really explained in this is, "how movies work" with some Davy Jones explanation thrown in.

[@thelastcrow5660]

There is so much detail to him, not just the design. The way he walks, the way he speaks, the sounds he makes and his personality. Definitely one of the best movie villains of all time.

[@magiclegume]

Everyone is in awe of how Davy Jones is written but you are all forgetting the awesome performance of Bill Nighy that brought Davy Jones to life.

[@edsp666]

The score that's tied to him is genius. That gentle melody gives him so much more depth as a character, not to mention its a beautifully written and emotive piece that stays in my head for hours. Even when it's played epically it's never the organ version or full orchestra that stays in my mind, it's always the soft music box that reflects his heart that I remember. A brilliant choice from all involved

[@littleredruri]

Had to pause the video, the way you said "Caribbean" seriously shocked me for a second. I'll be back in a minute, I just need to process this.

[@zenithk1471]

Eyy Savage Books got HIS OWN BOOK? Nice. Cant wait for a book review

[@RaphaelAvant]

What they did with Davy Jones was a really good concept to focus the romantic aspect along with the hybrid sea-creatures. There are not to many stories like that.

[@roiscavel3923]

Jones is one of my favourite characters in movies, if not my all time favourite. The character design, performance, dialogue and story are simple iconic and the heart itself of the middle and end of the original trilogy. Honestly, it's quite surprising to know the creative process behind his creation and I cannot applaud enough the talent of everyone behind the movies. Thank you so much for this video.

[@masquerader101]

His story, casting, and everything just feels so right 🙏🏽

[@HobGungan]

While Pearl will always be my favorite *film* in the franchise as a whole, Davy Jones is by leaps and bounds my favorite *character*.

[@adsfornothing3146]

same

[@tangoraptor1422]

“You don’t see a haunted mansion film series” jinxed it man

[@keelahrose]

That wheel fight was actually really well-choreographed, original and amazing to watch, not just fodder for "the caveman demographic."

[@WarLordXavier]

The character was probably actually given her name not because of greek myth, but because Calypso is a genre of music in the caribbean, in particular Trinidad and Tobago. You might be more familiar with it's more famous offshoot Soca music (Soul of Calypso )

[@digitalgloop12]

I think its a bit of both actually. Being from the Caribbean myself, I initially thought she was named for Calypso music, which I thought odd but rolled with it because I thought it was interesting. It was only a couple years later when I learned about the Greek myth and put two and two together.

[@elyalvarz]

I write fiction but often use historical facts, scenarios, or characters. I tend to restrain myself too much because if I can't find the "original" link between two "true" things, I scrap it out thinking there's no way it will work. I tell myself it's too forced and cheap. But knowing that the creative team of one of my favorite movie sagas dared to combine legends from all over the world AND make it work flawlessly... I think a door just opened up for me. Thank you for your great content!

[@zoesdada8923]

The actor who plays Davy Jones is an absolute genius. They should make a movie about Davy Jones

[@diehard096]

I’m in the process of writing my very first book myself. I’ve had the idea in my head for a few years and pieced it together, but you’re absolutely correct when it’s difficult to apply it to paper. This video helped me in ways I did not realize!

[@kristopherhayes1957]

Savage Books: shows a dark humor episode of spongebob squarepants with davy jones (which strangely didn't explained how they got out of that situation the next episode) Also Savage Books: shows a dark situation with davy jones

[@DANY_ACOSTA]

I'm right now working on a novel. When I watch your videos, I feel like writing is this amazing, adventurous and challenging activity that can change worlds. For that I have to say, Thank you.

[@ChrisPTenders]

I actually really like the fight inside a wheel idea... they put a lot of thought into it; showing a bunch of sea bound lovers of the open waters, who live a lifestyle which requires a maxed skill called "sea legs", lose their sense of balance as their mad quest for power takes them away from their stomach turning, lurching, untamed home on the waves to solid dry land. It's ironic, as well as a thematic expression of how out of their element they are apart from the sea. Also, each character's reactions reflect their regard for the sea and land respectively. DMC has a lot more going on than some people give it credit for; beyond just Davey boy, whom I have to agree is the best thing going in this film. The way DMC was written was really good at making thematic connections. The next few sequels... not so much.

[@Neecola88]

Oh my god, you have put it so well, it hit the spot inside me, you are amazing, I cried my hart out listening to your explanation of him Thank you!

[@squid-boy4178]

They really went alright to the idea dart board throws dart at a target lands on tentacles

[@draad3112]

Great video, Davy Jones definitely carried the two movies he was involved in, and set an incredibly high standards for Pirates' villains to come (which ultimately fell short). One thing you did not mention however, is his theme song, which is also a part of his memorable identity (to me). The sad music box beginning to represent his tragedy, followed by the same melody played on the organ (I think) transitions from sadness to anger, which sums up his character well. Just like you can recognize Davy Jones in Bill Nighy without the CGI, you can feel the sadness and anger that characterizes Jones just by listening to his theme song (without the actual movie).

[@brady_06]

The first 3 Pirates of the Caribbean movies are one of the best trilogies of all time

[@juliaburkholder4213]

I love this honestly, it shows that stories don't just happen, all the behind the scenes elements have to jell just right, and sometimes the most insignificant creative details can become central to the story as perceived by the audience

[@ah-nononoo]

Making up stuff happens so much in "historical" movies, so the Davey Jones stuff makes more sense than it should, ugh

[@one_bad_mofo8658]

"Do you fear death? Do you fear the dark abyss?" Bill Nigh. Fucking LEGEND and absolutely perfect for a pirate. You say the words pirate and either Davy Jones or Barbosa's voices invade your mind because they we're PERFECT. In film, even if the movie was bad, some people can take a character and make them REAL, make them the gold standard for any future characters. Jack Nicholson's Joker, although not the best any more is still the standard for how good his performance was. RDJ as Tony Stark/Iron Man. Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face. Idc what anyone says, he was GREAT! LOL

[@biglordebunnyrabbit627]

Davy: “I do not love you.” Calypso: “Many tings you were Davy, cruel was never one of them.”

[@mikegould6590]

Jeffrey Rush and Bill Nihey were the perfect kind of menacing to really balance out the antics of Johnny Depp. Great casting.

[@albertoparolin7170]

It's hilarious in hindsight that oda eiichiro (creator of one piece)based part of the arc of the fishermen's island on davy jones' character: the flying dutchman is the ship that carries davy jones' descendant, and the kraken is the one that's moving the ship around...

[@ADRIAN-xn2si]

This video is amazing , optimistic , but full with knowledge, only can resonate with future authors or directors , of course even writers. With more people with this knowledge who share the love of film making and story telling there will only be room for beautiful creations to come ! So glad I found this video today !

[@zan5051]

Please consider not using pure white backgrounds. Maybe a light grey? I've got everything in dark mode, so it's kind of jarring.

[@kitty_n_fishy]

Dude, you are my literal hero! Through you I discovered that I was a writer in the first place, through your videos I learn what I'm doing right and how to make my stories even cooler, and your encouragement enriches the advent of my creativity! I'm going to buy and read your book, then keep it on my bedroom shelf as a reminder of the serendipity of thematic story telling. You are straight up the perfect online mentor who teaches like how I imagine Stan Lee or Mark Twain would. Everything you explain makes total sense and resonates with me as a story teller. You are the freaking best 👍 watching your videos inspires me to write even though I began as a character illustrator

[@delix787]

I’ve always enjoyed and loved the second and third film over the first! I don’t know why everyone likes the first one better.

[@dwarfboy9996]

This is exactly why I watched Pirates of the Caribbean. I only remember Davy Jones' when he was on screen. Whenever he was on screen, I remember actually focusing on the story

[@henrylambert5018]

I wasn’t listening the whole time because I kept admiring how creepy and awesome Davy Jones was

[@Andrewk858]

"Let no joyful voice be heard Let no man look to the sky with hope And let this day be cursed by we ready to wake....THE CRACKEN!!!" One of the best scenes in film life.

[@urdnotstark8270]

Said this before to my friends who love these movies: Davy Jones is an S Tier villain in a pair of B Tier movies.

[@adsfornothing3146]

Tell this the Reddit fandom. They literally mutinied against their mods because they said that.

[@josephbrown9685]

I completely agree with this assessment. The movies overall are good, not great, but there are moments of greatness, mostly involving Davy Jones. He is on the level of Darth Vader and Thanos, but they benefit from better movies.

[@hundvd_7]

@@adsfornothing3146 wtf do you mean by "Reddit fandom" Is it /r/movies or a PotC subreddit? Or just completely unrelated? It makes a huge difference.

[@adsfornothing3146]

@@hundvd_7 The PotC Reddit fandom. The mods of r/PotCmemes did shit like that and then the community said "Nope, we gonna make a mutiny" and then they just posted mutiny memes and now the memers are on r/CaptainSparrowmemes which already existed, but was the sub for the ones who like the sequels (the 4th and the 5th movie).

[@Ignasimp]

@@josephbrown9685 Barbosa was great too.

[@Jstrelts]

The whole fun of Pirates is the dichotomy of its randomness and the deeper storyline that actually has a good message. Its the pirate life, savvy?

[@Feathersky101]

The pirates trilogy is a bit of a mess, but I think they're so easy to come back to because there's really nothing out there like them. The lore is fresh and unique as far as franchise films go and despite the trilogy getting more convoluted as it went on, I still felt engaged with the characters and most of the emotional beats hit for me.

[@Just_Another_Gravemind]

First of all, thanks for making this video, I absolutely love hearing others talk about the story of Potc, At World's End is quit possibly my favorite movie ever, so its amazing to see some action in the community. Also ya writing is basically just coming up with the most random things and filling in a story around them. We made stories for our finals, since exams were canceled due to covid. Idk why but Dark Elves, pirates, and a magic book popped into my head, now it's a dialogue filled short story, centering around a Dark Elven Pirate Captain leading a human crew to an unexplored, mysterious land of Fae and Myconid-folk on his quest for the Osmaedum. Top marks.

[@Snarl_Marx]

Are these rules? Or more like... guidelines.

[@jasonchilado]

I absolutely love the entire backstory, concept, and mythology they came up for Jones, the Dutchman, and his crew.

[@JagoShogun]

Hmm, this movie isn't random. It has a lot of coherent nautical/atlantic culture. Cannibals aren't random at all. In fact, Canniba is an Arawak term for a rivaled Kalinago tribe believed to have eaten other humans ritualistically to gain power. A lot of said nautical/mariner culture just isn't explained in movie.

[@tage171]

This youtube video felt like a movie, well done man

[@PowerMatrixAnime]

Johnny made this franchise what it is. What a shame he is getting cancelled.

[@RacingSnails64]

Not *all* that it was, but he was a very big and important factor in its tone that can't be understated. As fit for the character as RDJ was for Iron Man.

[@foxlover6770]

Luckily I think people are starting to cut back for the most part, I mean after the tapes were released it’s a bit hard to cancel him as an abuser when the relationship was at the very least mutually abusive with Amber Heard probably being worse

[@NashmanNash]

@@foxlover6770 Yeah..but Amber Heard is something that Johnny Depp isn´t..A Woman in 2010s and now 2020s Hollywood,meaning that she could probably get away with rape and noone would really care

[@TulpechaidoplaysMC]

@@foxlover6770 It wasn’t mutually abusive

[@JoschiChr]

The funny thing is that the flying dutchman is supposed to have no crew at all, being a ghost ship.

[@hellogoditsmesara3569]

Humans are natural pattern seekers, that's why we can see faces so easily through as little as arbitrary squiggles. We just have to break free of the constraints we put on ourselves.

[@MouseGoat]

Then there's also the hallius and incredible ingenus joke of having a captain with a claw for a hand. now I realise This might be a bit lost in english, because usually its a pirate capen with a "hook" but at least in danish a "crab claw" and "hook" are both called a "klo" So I always loved the idea of a pirate captain with a literal claw for a hand instead of a hook, as we use the same word for both things.

[@MyBenjamin73]

If Disney is going to make movies about its villains; find some young European theatre actor who can match Nighy's eccentricities to kick off a young Davy Jones series. Have each episode end in him furthering his curse

[@thedumbdog1964]

This is fine

[@spaghettboy2173]

Yes! Have it start off just as he got the curse, then via convenient flashbacks unravel the story. At certain times throughout the episode he’d undergo a painful transformation. As the series finale, as the finale of the episode, at the very last scene. Have him complete the transformation

[@mp7scarh]

I think it’d be cool if he just happens to be a good piano player before the curse like in his free TiMe and as he mutated he had to learn to play with his messed up tentacle hands and gets super depressed, but over time through the full mutation he learns to use his face tentacles to play the keys and becomes even better than before and gets a custom 3 keyboard piano

[@danb9460]

I would love to add in the music does SO MUCH LIFTING for the characters and their scenes because whenever I hear the main theme it’s intense, it gets the blood pumping, when I hear jacks theme it’s generally being introduced to his shenanigans, and with Davey Jones’ theme? I feel sadness, I feel regret, and I feel sympathy for a man turned to a monster. It truly plucks heart strings with the small sound of a music box. It’s such a small sound, but it is powerful. I love the music in movies, especially when there is purpose in the music.

[@mp7scarh]

Unpopular opinion: Davy Jones CGI superior to Thanos and is Vader level villain

[@benwilson4007]

Correct opinion!

[@notsogooddoctor6272]

The three minute scene between Jones and Calypso had more chemistry and development than Will and Elizabeths relationship in the entire trilogy.